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« Reply #75 on: December 10, 2015, 05:10:17 PM »


I think the take home message from all this is teenage white male suburban kids being rubbed the wrong way by one thing or another is the real crime and most important thing to talk about.  Can't wait for the Atlas diaper squad to grow up, get jobs, and see what the real world is like.

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My God.  The discussions on this forum.  Seriously is everyone posting here really 15 and never had a job?!  People in big people world with careers on the line do not have these conversations.  This is seriously dumb sh-t no one with half a brain would do.

Are you slow? Even this forum, with all its odd demographics, is able to see that these people are insane for not living in the real world and making issues out of nothing. I don't understand what you are attacking the forum about. If it's for wasting time making fun of these crazy people, well, then I guess you're here too for a reason posting nonsense on the Internet. Your argument literally makes no sense.
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« Reply #76 on: December 10, 2015, 05:18:26 PM »


I think the take home message from all this is teenage white male suburban kids being rubbed the wrong way by one thing or another is the real crime and most important thing to talk about.  Can't wait for the Atlas diaper squad to grow up, get jobs, and see what the real world is like.

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My God.  The discussions on this forum.  Seriously is everyone posting here really 15 and never had a job?!  People in big people world with careers on the line do not have these conversations.  This is seriously dumb sh-t no one with half a brain would do.

Are you slow? Even this forum, with all its odd demographics, is able to see that these people are insane for not living in the real world and making issues out of nothing. I don't understand what you are attacking the forum about. If it's for wasting time making fun of these crazy people, well, then I guess you're here too for a reason posting nonsense on the Internet. Your argument literally makes no sense.

It is entirely possible there is something I'm missing here.  I am by no means perfect.  I don't get it.  I perused the thread and saw all kinds of statements about free speech and affirmative action.

I mean bottom line, don't wear blackface.  That's the beginning and the end of it.  Not really a jumping off point to a broader discussion.
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« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2015, 05:25:32 PM »


I think the take home message from all this is teenage white male suburban kids being rubbed the wrong way by one thing or another is the real crime and most important thing to talk about.  Can't wait for the Atlas diaper squad to grow up, get jobs, and see what the real world is like.

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My God.  The discussions on this forum.  Seriously is everyone posting here really 15 and never had a job?!  People in big people world with careers on the line do not have these conversations.  This is seriously dumb sh-t no one with half a brain would do.

Are you slow? Even this forum, with all its odd demographics, is able to see that these people are insane for not living in the real world and making issues out of nothing. I don't understand what you are attacking the forum about. If it's for wasting time making fun of these crazy people, well, then I guess you're here too for a reason posting nonsense on the Internet. Your argument literally makes no sense.

It is entirely possible there is something I'm missing here.  I am by no means perfect.  I don't get it.  I perused the thread and saw all kinds of statements about free speech and affirmative action.

I mean bottom line, don't wear blackface.  That's the beginning and the end of it.  Not really a jumping off point to a broader discussion.

We're not debating blackface. When that occurred at UCLA, Antonio V, who goes there posted about his disgust about it elsewhere. No one defended it. The Yale e-mail is not about blackface. An example of the kind of thing college students will get upset about is a sombrero and mustache. If you find that offensive, fine, but I'm not debating that any further. That was months ago, and it is not the full point of this thread, which was directed at absurd protests like the changing of building names at Princeton because Woodrow Wilson, etc.
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« Reply #78 on: December 10, 2015, 05:47:35 PM »


I think the take home message from all this is teenage white male suburban kids being rubbed the wrong way by one thing or another is the real crime and most important thing to talk about.  Can't wait for the Atlas diaper squad to grow up, get jobs, and see what the real world is like.

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My God.  The discussions on this forum.  Seriously is everyone posting here really 15 and never had a job?!  People in big people world with careers on the line do not have these conversations.  This is seriously dumb sh-t no one with half a brain would do.

Are you slow? Even this forum, with all its odd demographics, is able to see that these people are insane for not living in the real world and making issues out of nothing. I don't understand what you are attacking the forum about. If it's for wasting time making fun of these crazy people, well, then I guess you're here too for a reason posting nonsense on the Internet. Your argument literally makes no sense.

It is entirely possible there is something I'm missing here.  I am by no means perfect.  I don't get it.  I perused the thread and saw all kinds of statements about free speech and affirmative action.

I mean bottom line, don't wear blackface.  That's the beginning and the end of it.  Not really a jumping off point to a broader discussion.

The Yale e-mail is not about blackface.

Sorry, man.  I read the NY Times.  I can't help it if they lied about the whole thing...

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« Reply #79 on: December 10, 2015, 06:14:22 PM »


I think the take home message from all this is teenage white male suburban kids being rubbed the wrong way by one thing or another is the real crime and most important thing to talk about.  Can't wait for the Atlas diaper squad to grow up, get jobs, and see what the real world is like.

...

My God.  The discussions on this forum.  Seriously is everyone posting here really 15 and never had a job?!  People in big people world with careers on the line do not have these conversations.  This is seriously dumb sh-t no one with half a brain would do.

Are you slow? Even this forum, with all its odd demographics, is able to see that these people are insane for not living in the real world and making issues out of nothing. I don't understand what you are attacking the forum about. If it's for wasting time making fun of these crazy people, well, then I guess you're here too for a reason posting nonsense on the Internet. Your argument literally makes no sense.

It is entirely possible there is something I'm missing here.  I am by no means perfect.  I don't get it.  I perused the thread and saw all kinds of statements about free speech and affirmative action.

I mean bottom line, don't wear blackface.  That's the beginning and the end of it.  Not really a jumping off point to a broader discussion.

The Yale e-mail is not about blackface.

Sorry, man.  I read the NY Times.  I can't help it if they lied about the whole thing...

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This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.
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« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2015, 06:20:13 PM »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.
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« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2015, 06:23:58 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2015, 06:25:29 PM by smilo »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

If you are going to reduce paragraphs of paragraphs of text into one word biased ultra-simplifications intended to stir a ruckus, then you are worse then most Republicans (and College leftists), but feel however you want, as that was not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to make fun of people who whine about non-issues.
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« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2015, 12:25:52 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2015, 01:01:21 AM by Cory »

My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

Pay attention and don't buy into your own bullsh**t and it will start to make sense.
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« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2015, 01:47:07 AM »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

If you are going to reduce paragraphs of paragraphs of text into one word biased ultra-simplifications intended to stir a ruckus, then you are worse then most Republicans (and College leftists), but feel however you want, as that was not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to make fun of people who whine about non-issues.

Nothing more simplistic or ignorant than dismissing issues that don't affect you and that you could never fully understand as "non-issues".
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« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2015, 01:49:46 AM »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

If you are going to reduce paragraphs of paragraphs of text into one word biased ultra-simplifications intended to stir a ruckus, then you are worse then most Republicans (and College leftists), but feel however you want, as that was not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to make fun of people who whine about non-issues.

Nothing more simplistic or ignorant than dismissing issues that don't affect you and that you could never fully understand as "non-issues".

So you agree with Schadenfrude?
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« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2015, 04:08:16 AM »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

If you are going to reduce paragraphs of paragraphs of text into one word biased ultra-simplifications intended to stir a ruckus, then you are worse then most Republicans (and College leftists), but feel however you want, as that was not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to make fun of people who whine about non-issues.

Nothing more simplistic or ignorant than dismissing issues that don't affect you and that you could never fully understand as "non-issues".

So you agree with Schadenfrude?

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« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2015, 09:52:14 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2015, 10:00:44 AM by smilo »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

If you are going to reduce paragraphs of paragraphs of text into one word biased ultra-simplifications intended to stir a ruckus, then you are worse then most Republicans (and College leftists), but feel however you want, as that was not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to make fun of people who whine about non-issues.

Nothing more simplistic or ignorant than dismissing issues that don't affect you and that you could never fully understand as "non-issues".

I do fully understand the ability to not identify with my teams mascot since Stella is female. Incredibly difficult for me to get past it, but I try.

Also you missed the long Schadenfreude follow up post which was deleted if you are being Yale-specific, which was not intended to be in this thread. As I said in the opening post - that is a separate issue. There is a little silliness there, but it's not entirely invalid.
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« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2015, 11:48:25 AM »

This is not the Yale e-mail that caused an uproar. The follow-up email from the dorm "master" or whatever her title is to the same recipient list saying to just exercise sound judgement caused a massive flip out. People didn't flip out over being asked to not wear blackface. People flipped out because others weren't being completely controlled.

Alright I don't get it.  My understanding is an email was sent out saying don't wear blackface. And then a college master said, "Muh free speech" and then a bunch of people were rightly appalled.

If you are going to reduce paragraphs of paragraphs of text into one word biased ultra-simplifications intended to stir a ruckus, then you are worse then most Republicans (and College leftists), but feel however you want, as that was not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to make fun of people who whine about non-issues.

Your post makes no sense and is actually quite offensive.  Yale told students, who should know better, not to wear blackface.  The a college master, of all things, wrote a letter examining the other side of the issue... even though any sane person knows there is no other side to, "drunk privileged white teenagers please don't wear blackface when you are partying."

Here is the email from the idiot master in case you haven't read it...

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I'm sure a black student at Yale would really feel their concerns are being taken seriously after reading that.

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Asking Yale students not to wear blackface=foisting

Yeah after reading that quote and many others the conclusion I come to is the students are "ridiculously infuriating".  Yeah, it's not the faculty who write waffling academic diatribes in response to "don't wear blackface".  Sure... it's the students who are a problem.  Let's make fun of them.

Seriously guys.  Go ahead.  Wear blackface.  Then one day when you actually have a job and pictures of you running around in blackface with your drunk white teenage privileged friends surfaces forward that letter to HR and then see if you ID badge works Monday morning.

f-cked up man.  Real f-cked up.
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« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2015, 11:56:34 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2015, 12:06:38 PM by smilo »

Hahahahaha, you are literally the dumbest person I have encountered on this forum, and we've had a bunch. Not one person mentioned Yale. Not one person supports wearing blackface in any context. No one who has posted in this thread would ever consider doing something so stupid themselves. You clearly just want to start an argument  for the sake of built up rage and have since the day you joined. Learn how to read the English language, and please avoid this thread until you do (though I do appreciate your contribution from The Citadel).

Also, if you were a premium member, you would see that I called out a celebrity for wearing blackface in the #AmeriKKKa thread months ago.
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« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2015, 12:06:14 PM »

Hahahahaha, you are literally the dumbest person I have encountered on this forum, and we've had a bunch. Not one person mentioned Yale....

The Yale e-mail is not about blackface.

Yale was mentioned.  The email was about blackface.
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« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2015, 12:10:06 PM »

Reread your original post. YOU brought up Yale on page 4. None of the first three pages mentioned it. This thread is not about the Yale incidents. Not a single person has spoken in support of it. You just attacked the entire forum for supporting blackface when not a single person spoke in support, troll.
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« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2015, 12:16:05 PM »

Reread your original post. YOU brought up Yale on page 4. None of the first three pages mentioned it. This thread is not about the Yale incidents. Not a single person has spoken in support of it. You just attacked the entire forum for supporting blackface when not a single person spoke in support, troll.

That just begs the question why did you lie and say the Yale email wasn't about blackface?  You keep changing your story.  First the email wasn't about blackface.  Once I prove with a quote and a link to the NY Times that it is about blackface you are now hammering the forum saying this thread isn't about Yale.  Now you want to change the subject.  It doesn't work that way.  You posted something that was 100% false.  Instead of being gracious about it and admitting your mistake you lash out and start calling me names.

There are some definite issues on campuses in this country.  I don't know what about those issues makes you feel the appropriate response is to make fun of the people raising those issues.  Sure those concerns have varying levels of validity but when you post an open ended thread like this and even worse lie about the Yale email what result do you expect?  There is plenty of stuff to joke about and lampoon.  You really can pick another topic.
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« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2015, 12:21:23 PM »

Just so y'all know, there's a red button in the upper-right of Schadenfreude's posts that lets you ignore him.

He's just a troll who strawmans what people said and attacks them for it by calling them bigots so that they get riled up and lash out, and then accuses them of being aggressive.  He's probably in middle school and just discovered the thrill of debating adults on the internet.  Don't give him the satisfaction.  Just hit ignore like I'm going to.  If enough of us do it maybe he'll f**k off and stop derailing every conversation in the General Discussion forum.
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« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2015, 12:36:07 PM »

It's a serious topic Steve.  If there is a valid topic for this thread then just explain it instead of attacking people.  I've seen multiple posts by multiple people jumping from campus to campus issue to issue.  I am just pointing out that there are some very real concerns.  Not all  of them are necessarily serious to me nor do I necessarily agree with how some people express some of their concerns but with some of the flippancy I've seen here I needed to give a little push back.
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« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM »

Reread your original post. YOU brought up Yale on page 4. None of the first three pages mentioned it. This thread is not about the Yale incidents. Not a single person has spoken in support of it. You just attacked the entire forum for supporting blackface when not a single person spoke in support, troll.

That just begs the question why did you lie and say the Yale email wasn't about blackface?  You keep changing your story.  First the email wasn't about blackface.  Once I prove with a quote and a link to the NY Times that it is about blackface you are now hammering the forum saying this thread isn't about Yale.  Now you want to change the subject.  It doesn't work that way.  You posted something that was 100% false.  Instead of being gracious about it and admitting your mistake you lash out and start calling me names.

There are some definite issues on campuses in this country.  I don't know what about those issues makes you feel the appropriate response is to make fun of the people raising those issues.  Sure those concerns have varying levels of validity but when you post an open ended thread like this and even worse lie about the Yale email what result do you expect?  There is plenty of stuff to joke about and lampoon.  You really can pick another topic.

We lampoon Donald Trump. We lampoon Ben Carson. We lampoon the GOP establishment. We can lampoon what is primarily leftist idiocy too, and if you don't care to, don't join us. At this point, I'm pretty sure you are making fake terrible liberal argument to push people to the right.

I did not lie. The e-mail is not explicitly about blackface. As I said you over simplifying it based on the issues one side if portraying the New York Times from the original e-mail prior to this one.
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The e-mail is clearly about 18-21 year olds needing to not be parented by college administrators and needing to grow up which seems to be exactly what you want them to do too. They don't need an authority to specifically tell them the moral implications of these actions. If you are so adamant about that one particular aspect, then yes, blackface is wrong as I have already stated numerous times, and no one here has echoed support for it. I remain adamant that the e-mail is not about that matter, and it is clear we will never agree.

And I don't know why I should be gracious to scum like you who calls everyone names and then can't take a little bit themselves, immediately turning himself into a victim after calling out the entirety of the forum community. Go to Naples. In the words of a great author:

I have placed you on ignore because Satan has gotten a hold of you.  What do I do with Satan?  Ignore him.

You are the first and only on that exclusive list.

Happy posting Smiley Hopefully one day you learn reason and make it off
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« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2015, 01:12:05 PM »

The e-mail is not explicitly about blackface. As I said you over simplifying it based on the issues one side if portraying the New York Times from the original e-mail prior to this one.

Yale sent out an email to everyone in the organization asking them not to wear blackface.  A master wrote a direct response to that email.  As you said there were "paragraphs and paragraphs" and at no point in that long rambling response did the master make any carve outs regarding chastising people for blackface.  She didn't even imply it.  Complete tone deafness.  That was my point of posting in this thread.  This master's response and your spinning of said response are understandably offensive to people.  That's all I'm saying.  There is just a baffling lack of sensitivity.

If someone sends you an email asking you not to wear blackface and you send a response with the words "free speech" I'm sorry but your response is about blackface and you are totally tone deaf.  And if someone gets offended because of your actions that does not make them fodder for lampooning.  Really.  If that is trolling or whatever you guys want to call then fine I'm a troll.
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« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2015, 02:25:16 PM »

Nothing in the e-mail you cited mentions blackface. You just keep inserting that word despite the fact that that's isn't what people are talking about at all. Dressing up like a Spanish bullfighter for Halloween is not blackface. Nor is wearing a sombrero and a fake mustache. That's what these people are talking about, not someone literally wearing blackface around school.

You do not have a fundamental human right not to see things you don't like.
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« Reply #97 on: December 11, 2015, 03:11:52 PM »

Only on Atlas could someone be concerned for the viewpoints and feelings of others and be called a "troll" for it. Not Smilo, the ironic Trump supporter, or Cory, the eugenics enthusiast. They are certainly not trolls at all.
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« Reply #98 on: December 11, 2015, 03:43:36 PM »

Hahahahaha, you are literally the dumbest person I have encountered on this forum, and we've had a bunch. Not one person mentioned Yale....

The Yale e-mail is not about blackface.

Yale was mentioned.  The email was about blackface.
You made it exclusively about blackface.  The original e-mail was broader than that. 

You built a strawman not on false pretenses.. but by excluding important facts.. and then tried to beat it to death with your militant liberal stick.
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« Reply #99 on: December 11, 2015, 04:01:40 PM »
« Edited: December 11, 2015, 04:03:35 PM by tpfkaw »

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2015/12/naming_of_lebanon_valley_colle.html

This one's less infuriating than it is comical.

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