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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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« on: November 08, 2006, 09:39:51 AM »

O'Mallley's next stop is federal prison so I would write him off.

lol, O'Malley's next stop is the Governor's Mansion in Annapolis.
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Moooooo
nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 10:04:32 AM »

You guys did good in Maryland, Nick. Smiley

Thanks, man.  I actually told Sam the other day I shouldnt let emotion get in the way of my political analysis, but I just knew deep down the polls werent reflective what was going on here on the ground in Maryland.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 07:42:24 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2006, 11:55:14 AM by nickshepDEM »

O'Malley is terrible. The fact that the Dems here fawn over him scares me; he was borderline-incompetant as mayor of Baltimore and will be no better for the state. Even Duncan would've been better. Frankly, big-city mayors from the machine party (Democrats in most cities, Republicans in Miami and a few others) are not trustworthy for higher office in general, and O'Malley is very much no exception to this rule. And Balitmore is more of a basket case than most cities, which O'Malley's term has seen no real improvement.

No one has ever claimed O'Malley was a great mayor, but to say he is borderline incompetent and the city has made no real improvement makes me wonder if you know anything about Baltimore City or the condition it was in when O'Malley took over.  He stemmed the population hemorrhage, brought in 9 billion in outside investment, many neighborhoods have went through a major renaissance, grades 1-5 are now majority proficient in reading and math (none were majority proficient when he took over), graduation rates are the highest they've been in decades, sanitation has improved some (rats, trash pickups, etc.), violent crime and property crimes are down (the % is debatable), and CitiStat is a national model for government accountability.  I could go on, but I’ll stop there.  John Fund of the Wall Street Journal said on WBAL radio a couple weeks ago that O’Malley is one best Mayors Baltimore has ever seen.


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Wrong again, in 2002 Ehrlich won by approximately 57,000 votes.  O'Malley is currently leading by 110,000 votes with a few precincts still outstanding in Prince George's County.  We also have 120,000 or so absentee ballots that have yet to be counted.  Majority of the absentee ballots were requested and sent-in by registered Democrats, though, some believe Ehrlich will have a slight edge in the final absentee count because he pushed for them so hard (ironic considering he vetoed the bill that allowed for no-excuse absentee voting).

Ehrlich was the only incumbent Governor in the Country to lose re-election (Republican incumbents survived in CT, RI, VT, and CA).  His job approval has always been rather stellar (50-55%), with fairly low disapproval ratings.  He lost because he chose to run a negative campaign based on assassinating the character of not only Martin O’Malley, but the City of Baltimore, while his rock star challenger decided to run a campaign of hope, empowerment, and positive vision for the state of Maryland.

With that said, I'm not sure if O'Malley has a national future.  He has always been branded as guy with a lot of ambition, but I've never once heard him mention it.  People just assume he's going places because he's a young, good-looking, and charismatic Democrat.  I think he's focused on Maryland and that is exactly what he should be focused on.

How sweet it is, Governor-elect O'Malley.  Smiley
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 08:06:01 PM »

I have gut feeling that O'Malley is going to be a failure as Governor as he was the Mayor of the city of Baltimore, which seems to have gotten much worse under his management and combined with the fact that he has I have a good feeling plenty of skelations in his closet. In short I have a feeling this guy is going to be the Democratic version of Bob Taft, now all you members of this froum that are Democrats don't see this or don't want to see this but I have a good feeling that O'Malley is going to be a big time falilure. 

Bob was a failure and that is why he was the only incumbent Governor in the entire nation to lose re-election.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 08:41:30 AM »
« Edited: November 10, 2006, 08:47:43 AM by nickshepDEM »

Baltimore went from 1 on a scale of 1-10 to about a 4. Give O'Malley at least some credit.


I agree with that statement, but the catch is, God himself couldn’t push Baltimore over a 5/5.5  Wink

Like I said before, O’Malley was far from perfect, but overall I think he was above average and when compared to his predecessors he was well above average.

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A lot of his problems stemmed from conflict with other elected officials.  Obviously, Ehrlich anticipating O’Malley’s run for Governor played a role in some of the City’s mishaps.  For instance, O’Malley brought in a hard-nosed Police Commissioner from NYC (Ed Norris) and as soon as crime started to drop as a result of Norris’ policing philosophies; Ehrlich snatched Norris up and appointed him head of the MD State Police.

An even bigger problem was Baltimore City State’s Attorney and complete O’Malley hater -- Pat Jessamy.  She believes in the ‘treat the criminal’ mentality rather than locking them up and punishing them.  O'Malley and Jessamy have butted heads for years and in a city with an enormous crime problem, a State's Attorney and Mayor who hate each = recipe for disaster.
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