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Virginiá
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« on: September 19, 2016, 10:26:44 PM »

I don't see them changing policy proposals much at all. They will become a Trump-opposition party because his endless flaws and weaknesses make him an exceptionally attractive target. 4 years of Trump doing and saying things like he has this past year will be hell on Earth for Republicans, especially when any sort of recession hits and when Trump supporters begin to realize he can't fix anything.

It's easy to run as a candidate and point to problems and say you can fix it all, but when you're in office, you are actually expected to do things and when bad things happen, voters will hold him accountable, just like they have with previous presidents. Unfortunately for him, most of America doesn't like him and he can't charm his way out of the blame.

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 09:57:37 AM »

Wasn't Reagan good at that? But he never fully controlled Congress.

By 2018-2020, that will have been over a 10-12 years ago, depending on which election we're talking about. The party itself and the voters it is comprised of has changed and there are limits to what Democrats can really campaign on and where. Yes, Democrats can try to make inroads in more moderate/conservative regions by picking and choosing certain positions like that, but I don't think we'll see as large of a crowd as we did back then, mainly because of the way the parties/electorate has changed since. The growth of Millennials means the party itself as a whole is / has been shifting left.

As for Reagan - you mean do nothing and take no blame? Reagan was well-liked and he was a natural charmer. Trump and Reagan are nothing alike in this regard. Reagan/Republicans also controlled the Senate for most of his presidency, and he had a cooperative House chalk full of blue dogs/conservative Democrats.. and that was on top of a time in American politics where Congress wasn't completely polarized and hostile like it is now. You can thank Gingrich and Republicans for that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 03:01:11 PM »

Democrats didn't help matters by jamming ObamaCare down our throats.

Maybe, but it's not Obama's fault for what the GOP in Congress has become. They mobilized to obstruct as soon as he got into office, despite America clearly and overwhelmingly rejecting their party. Since then, we've seen a never-ending escalation of extremely reckless and ethically bankrupt behavior from Republicans in Congress that is essentially a mix of do-whatever-to-win-elections and "my way or the highway"-train of thought.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 03:36:23 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2016, 03:40:08 PM by Virginia »

Under Obama the Dems lost 64 US House Seats in 2010 in part because of ObamaCare. Obviously in 2010 the American people rejected the Democrats the way people rejected Republicans in 2006 and 2008.

Yes ObamaCare is the on the Democrats because they voted for the bill and Obama signed it into law. The Republicans didn't vote for it because its a bad bill.

hopper, this isn't about Obamacare. Obstruction over obamacare is not even what I'm talking about. It's one thing to obstruct a bill like that, but GOP actions have gone way, way, way past that. Are you content/fine with the Republican Party's behavior/tactics in Congress? If you are, then I don't even know what to say.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 12:19:55 PM »

Why does he have to agree with you.  Let's be tolerant and open minded of conservatives who have different views. You support tolerance right?

I didn't say he has to agree. Besides the point that Obamacare is not the central focus here (imo), I said if he thinks their behavior in Congress is OK than I essentially think he's being ridiculous. But, he doesn't, so it doesn't matter.

If I want to be intolerant of conservative views, then I'll do so. I'm all for hearing someone's point of view, but I am under no obligation to tolerate idiocy (not referring to hopper) or behavior by politicians that I view as nothing but partisan obstruction.

Don't bother trying to play that whole "I thought liberals were tolerant" crap on me. I never said I tolerate everything and anything.
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