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« on: April 03, 2016, 12:19:02 PM »

Ignoring this stupid title -

WI votes on Tuesday right? So it makes no sense for Bernie to go there n debate now when he has got huge rallies planned all over WI.

April 14th he will be having a huge rally in Manhattan & because of the difficult to obtain permit, it will be foolish for him to go.

Now I am sure that from 9-17/18th they can find 1 decent slot not the Friday morning dumb idea.

This is why Sanders campaign was pushing for a resolution as people need to plan their agenda accordingly. If you schedule in the last moment, these issues crop up - Hillary there is time for debate Clinton
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2016, 04:27:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/maryaliceparks/status/716722948111994880

Sanders proposed 10th, 11th, 12th or 13th for the debate?


And this stupid notion of a the nominee having it easy n Sanders fading away is ridiculous. Hillary's voters are people in old age homes n stuff (a lot of them) - Sanders voters are mostly under 45 - In 4 years, 8 years more n more young people will only come in.

This is the future - The Dem party of the future - And it belongs to Sanders supporters who see through Clinton's dishonesty & for most of them it's Bernie or bust!
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2016, 08:20:49 PM »

Love that the Sanders campaign isn't backing off. The Clinton campaign is an utter mess.

The Sanders campaign must be a bunch of total losers if they're getting crushed by such an utter mess then. LOL

Name calling. How mature. Just like your idol Trump.

Well, it's a poor choice of words but he has a point. The amount of baggage Clinton has should have made it impossible to win a primary against a credible challenger, and while Sanders is definitely credible, well-financed and a good man with an enticing platform, he clearly didn't understand that not everyone would be as receptive to his platform, and the way he delivers it, as Millennials. He should have tailored his message and platform towards Millennials and older people/minorities. He mistakenly thought a one-size-fits-all approach would work. More so, when it was clear early on that he had a generational voter issue, he didn't really do anything to fix it.

Suffice to say, Bernie's campaign probably squandered a real opportunity through various campaigning missteps.

Sanders is a socialist
Sanders has 0 name recognition - Even in polls 1 week before the elections, most people say they don't know enough
The money is recent - He did not have money to put ads in Super Tuesday outside of 5 states
He has 0 support from the Establishment who have made it 450-20 before it began. These people campaign - Your local mayor to your governor - It influences your opinion
Hillary is a woman
Obama tacitly supports Hillary
Bill was considered to be the 1st Black President.
The DNC has rigged the process with limited debates n stuff

Those are very tough - Insurmountable odds for a 74 old unknown socialist. Why did Biden back out n make such comments against Hillary? Only due to his son's death.

Hillary had the entire establishment support - From Senators to Governors & a sitting VP had 0 support because Hillary was working on these people for quite some time

Money - Hillary's Super PAC & that money is meant to be a deterrence like Jeb Bush & Mitt Romney. It makes it very difficult to win for an outsider.

In the end I would say Sanders may have had some flaws, many infact, but his candidature was historic for multiple reasons & The Dem base will be his for the years to come.

A person who does not practice organized religion, is a socialist, an independent can give this close a challenge to Hillary is a miracle.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2016, 10:04:16 AM »


I don't know why the first thing you felt the need to do was rattle off a bunch of external reasons when I was specifically talking about internal reasons.

He isn't perfect. His message isn't perfect. His platform isn't perfect. There are issues with all of those things that compounds his bid for the nomination, in addition to what you said. You don't need to jump into Bernie defense mode at the first whiff of criticism.

God. Now we have another jfern.

No1 is perfect.

Jfern has shown more intelligence here & probably is a better person than what you will ever be
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2016, 09:14:46 PM »

Happy they did not chose ABC - I mean Clinton wanted George to moderate who worked for Clinton & donated many 1000's of $ to her foundation. I am okay with Wolf!

The 14th is a bummer - Big loss for Sanders as he had that Manhattan rally - I don't know if he will get a permit! These are the perks of being a front-runner - Clinton gets to have a big say in the days putting the other person in risk
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