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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 02, 2016, 12:13:00 AM »

Two winners tonight. Clinton and Rubio.

They are the most likely nominees now.

Let's look at this map:




This is the most likely map of real swing states in a Clinton vs. Rubio GE.
I find it very difficult to see how Rubio can beat Clinton. He needs to run the table here.

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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 11:18:03 AM »

Rubio will underperform I think in Wisconsin. I don't think this dovish state will like his bellicosity. He is more likely to win PA than Wisconsin, and certainly Nevada than Wisconsin.

Yes Torie, but he also needs Ohio and Virginia in order to win.

Nobody has answered the topline question. Anyone who thinks that Rubio can beat Hillary should show a way how, without including Wisconsin.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 11:31:26 AM »

Rubio will underperform I think in Wisconsin. I don't think this dovish state will like his bellicosity. He is more likely to win PA than Wisconsin, and certainly Nevada than Wisconsin.

Yes Torie, but he also needs Ohio and Virginia in order to win.

Nobody has answered the topline question. Anyone who thinks that Rubio can beat Hillary should show a way how, without including Wisconsin.


Your wish is my command. Below is the most likely path to a Rubio with nothing to spare victory (well Rubio could lose WV, and get 269 electoral votes, and have the House elect him, but I digress). I hope that helps you. Smiley



Thanks Torie!

You are right. It's the only way. Smiley

I mean, in spite of your vote, Rubio's not winning New York Wink
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 11:52:21 AM »


Nice. But could you please elaborate on Rubio's chances of winning Virginia, i.e. who in Virginia is going to vote for him?
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 12:20:55 PM »

She isn't her husband, but I think she looks presidential enough coming out of very tough Democratic debates while Rubio fades in and out of the Republican patty-cake debates. General election debate questions are going to be a lot closer to the questions Hillary has seen than what Rubio has had to answer.

The media love Rubio and hate Clinton.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 02:43:58 PM »

By winning 269 electoral college votes or more (and no, PA, WI, VA, NV are not SOLID D 270 FREIWAL STATES). I love how the OP is implying that Trump would have a better chance.

Of course he would.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 02:50:20 PM »

By winning 269 electoral college votes or more (and no, PA, WI, VA, NV are not SOLID D 270 FREIWAL STATES). I love how the OP is implying that Trump would have a better chance.

Of course he would.

He wouldn't even win FL.

Of course he would.
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