Census Bureau of Atlasia: Homelycooking, Registrar General

[Fritz]

This is a great moment in history!

Because why???

[PJ]

This is a great moment in history!

Because why???

The first registration that counted the democratic alliance.

[Fritz]

*sigh*  We never should have lowered the threshold for major parties.  Any senators out there want to work on repealing that? 

[Marokai Backbeat]

I really don't see the harm.

[Napoleon]

*sigh*  We never should have lowered the threshold for major parties.  Any senators out there want to work on repealing that? 

I was opposed to the change, but unless there's the political will to change it (amendments have some significant barriers) there's not much I can do. :/

[Adam Griffin]

If I remember correctly, I supported the change because it was just that: change. Personally, though, I would like to see the threshold for major party status at 10. 

[Napoleon]

If I remember correctly, I supported the change because it was just that: change. Personally, though, I would like to see the threshold for major party status at 10. 

I tried that, too. I got bitched at.

[homelycooking]

I am still of the opinion that "we need fewer political parties".

[PJ]

This is so wrong.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that reducing the threshold for being considered a major political party has resulted on more people trying to create political parties.

Just say you want a two party system guys.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I prefer to say another way Marokai.


TO HELL WITH THE DISSOLUTION MOVEMENT!!!!!

[Marokai Backbeat]

I find it amusing, the things you, Griffin, and Napoleon are all of the same mind on.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Yeah, 3 person political parties are the most pointless thing ever, at least to be considered a major party. Christ, what can they accomplish? What results can they produce?

[Marokai Backbeat]

The point is not having three person political parties (although, again, my position there is "what the hell does it matter to you/who is it hurting") but having more people more likely to start political parties and therefore having a greater chance of taking off and gaining traction. Going even further in the opposite direction would only entrench existing political lines (which works great for Griffin and Napoleon) and effectively demolish hopes of creating new political parties because it would take an enormous effort to get ten people together before creating a political party, since any political party that can't make it to major party status in the first couple of days? Effectively dead on arrival.

Maybe, probably, most of these smaller parties will get nowhere. But what the hell does it hurt? Homely has to take a few more seconds of formatting in each update and the census figures are a little longer, and in return we get more people willing to split from political loyalties and create parties when they feel like they have a compelling message. I consider that a good trade.

And I am so over this talk of dissolution being a mistake. This game is much better today than it was two years ago. The grass is always greener, I suppose.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I find it amusing, the things you, Griffin, and Napoleon are all of the same mind on.

I seem to recall supporting the party's amendment. You said two party system and that causes a reflex reaction pertaining to my militant anti-RPP Dissolutionism.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

And I am so over this talk of dissolution being a mistake. This game is much better today than it was two years ago. The grass is always greener, I suppose.

Nuts to your pro-dissolutionist talk. It is pure rubbish.

[homelycooking]

Just say you want a two party system guys.

I would rather see a two party system in place.

[PJ]

Just say you want a two party system guys.

I would rather see a two party system in place.

Very bad idea

[Fritz]

Woah, I didn't really intend to start a debate here.

But, since I did, its not that I prefer only 2 parties or that I want to inhibit new parties getting started.  I just think 3 people is setting the bar too low.  It is now too easy for a new party to achieve major party status, making the status seem a little bit irrelevant and overcrowding the registration statistics posts in this thread.  That's all.

[homelycooking]

Registration Statistics
July 18, 2013

Region	Federalist	Labor	Liberal	Light	NM(AM)	DR	CU	ELP	Other	Ind	Total
Mideast	22	8	8	3	0	1	0	0	1	8	51
Northeast	7	9	8	3	1	1	0	1	3	7	40
South	19	11	2	1	2	1	0	0	3	1	40
Pacific	3	9	9	0	3	0	2	2	2	4	33
Midwest	2	12	2	0	0	0	1	0	3	4	24
Total	53	49	29	7	6	3	3	3	11	24	188

[Хahar 🤔]

Gass introduced an amendment that I think would address some of these concerns:

Political Party Organization Amendment

Article V, Section 1, Clause 7 of the Constitution is hereby repealed and Article V of the Constitution is hereby amended to add the following section:
"Section 3: Political Parties
"1. Any political party of ten or more members shall be classified as an organized political party.
"2. A political party with fewer than ten members shall also be classified as an organized political party if it meets or exceeds a conditional threshold of membership and submits to the Registrar General documentation demonstrating its organization. The conditional threshold for major party status shall be set at three members unless otherwise defined by statute. Guidelines for the demonstration of party organization shall be set by the Registrar General.
"3. Should a political party with ten or more members fall below ten members but not below the conditional threshold for organized party status, it shall not be required to provide documentation in order to maintain its organized party status unless such documentation is specifically requested by the Registrar General."

This would allow smaller parties to be recognized, but limit recognition to groups that are actual parties.

[Marokai Backbeat]

That seems like a reasonable middle ground.

[PJ]

That seems like a reasonable middle ground.

[homelycooking]

I would support this amendment.

[Adam Griffin]

Updated versions of these (colors are now consistent). I'm pretty sure 7/7/13 numbers for the three major parties are correct, but I did not remember independents or others, nor had I finished the regional populations. Do you still have this info? It looks like it may have been written over by accident when you did the last update.

Atlasian Political Parties, October 2010 - Present



Regional Populations, November 2011 - Present