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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 07, 2012, 02:48:03 PM »

No Jesse Jackson in 1984?
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 03:01:07 PM »

It would be interesting to see what Jackson's electorate would be, though.  Non-whites + hard-left might be strange bedfellows in France (my impression, which might be wrong, is that among the redder working-class elements in France there's a good deal of anti-immigration and quasi-racist sentiment).
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,118
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Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 05:10:08 PM »

It would be interesting to see what Jackson's electorate would be, though.  Non-whites + hard-left might be strange bedfellows in France (my impression, which might be wrong, is that among the redder working-class elements in France there's a good deal of anti-immigration and quasi-racist sentiment).

The working class has been flirting with xenophobia and the far-right for decade (and now it's starting to take it to the next step). However, that's not the same as saying the hard-left is anti-immigrant. More like the hard-left doesn't really represent the working class.

Well 1984 was still prior to working-class 'disaffecteds' going from commies to FN, right?
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,118
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Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 07:32:49 PM »

I'd think the best way to represent Corsica would be to have it always be won by "favorite son" candidates when applicable, so Wilbur Mills in '72.

What do we mean by 'hard-left'? The PCF, the Trots, the left-wing of the PS? or the American hard-left which in France would be moderate PS lefties?

It'd be difficult to say since America is a two-party system and France is a multi-party system, so "all of them."  The American (white) "hard-left" (unions, environmentalists, feminists etc.) all lined up behind Mondale, so much so that he was quite effectively attacked (with justification) by both Hart and Reagan as having a campaign totally run by special interests.  The white people who supported Jackson, especially after the "Hymietown" incident, were generally of the Marxist variety.
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