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SillyAmerican
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« on: April 22, 2016, 08:47:00 PM »

In the latest article in the New York Times on the subject of Secretary Clinton's fees for speeches given to organizations who may have been interested in influencing the administration:

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Wouldn't it be better for someone running for high office to understand the need to avoid even the appearance of influence?

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2016, 10:22:44 PM »

Wouldn't it be nice if we had someone running for higher office who understood the need to avoid doing anything that could be twisted by the media to create controversy when there is none?

Yes. And say what you will about Bernie Sanders, you wouldn't see this kind of headline coming his way.

There's also the Clinton Foundation. The Saudis gave the Clinton Foundation $10 million and then Hillary approved at least $29 billion in arms sales to them that is currently being used to murder Shia civilians in Yemen.

Yeah, and I'm of the opinion that some of the Clinton Foundation activities that have been brought to light, especially the one you mention with the Saudis, will not be so easily swept aside by Mrs. Clinton once the GE campaigns get started.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2016, 11:58:31 PM »

There's also the Clinton Foundation. The Saudis gave the Clinton Foundation $10 million and then Hillary approved at least $29 billion in arms sales to them that is currently being used to murder Shia civilians in Yemen.

Please, those civilians are clearly just out to get America. What other motivation could drive their opposition to Al-Qaeda?

Clinton 2016

No, no. Haven't you heard? Once again, it's that awful anti-Muslim video Innocence of Muslims. Clearly that's the problem.

Clinton 2016
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2016, 05:12:54 AM »

Is this a joke headline?  I mean how about this for a headline?: Firms and individuals that donate tens of thousands to U.S political campaigns have U.S Government interests.

Hillary Clinton's role in the Saudi arms thing has also been thoroughly debunked.  

I try to not be apologists for any politician, but only people who have a genuine Clinton Derangement Syndrome could regard donations to a charity by a foreign government or paid speeches to a former politician as any worse than the legal bribery that is the modern campaign finance system.

Donations by foreigners are terrible, but donations by U.S branches of foreign corporations is fine?  Also, other than its illegal how is a donation by a foreign entity inherently any worse than any other large donation?

I agree that Bernie Sanders seems to have cleaner hands here, but he is one of a tiny handful, not just in those running for President, but in those running for or holding virtually any political office.

Well, a few things.

First of all, yes, that's the headline of the article: if you a problem with it, you should take it up with the NY Times.

Second, who says that donations by U.S branches of foreign corporations is fine? And you really have to wonder about someone rising to the defense of a prominent politician with the words "other than it's illegal...". Really? Are you reading your own objections?

And finally, if you're saying that campaign finance is in dire need of reform, you'll hear no argument to the contrary from me. But if what you're saying is that Hillary Clinton shouldn't be bothered with obeying the law and doing the right thing because, well, everybody else is doing it? Good luck selling that to the electorate...
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2016, 05:35:38 AM »

SillyAmerican proves again that he has the most apt nick in the entire forum.

Yes. And I have many european friends who would very much agree with you, from whom the nick sprouted...
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