Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread**

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This is more insufferable to watch than the RNC.  At least the fearfearfear show is good for a laugh. This is just cringey.

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Blame big pharma for pushing the drugs, lady. Oh wait, Hillary wouldn't do anything about that.

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This is more insufferable to watch than the RNC.  At least the fearfearfear show is good for a laugh. This is just cringey.

Serious and real talk is not for everyone. The RNC is available on the C Span site to re-watch.

More like 'trying too hard to be genuine' talk and hear my sob story.

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Hey keep playing that! \m/

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This is more insufferable to watch than the RNC.  At least the fearfearfear show is good for a laugh. This is just cringey.

Serious and real talk is not for everyone. The RNC is available on the C Span site to re-watch.

More like 'trying too hard to be genuine' talk and hear my sob story.

So cynical. Have several seats, please. lol.

I'm not that fat yet. Maybe a few more buffets.

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All I heard all day was how the Bernie Bros were causing a big ruckus, and now I finally turn it on and it's really tame. Demi Lovato got a huge applause when she said to vote Hillary.

The dogs are out to round up the sheep.

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You do have equal pay for equal work.  Just go work those construction jobs and manual labor.  Hell, even the women in my dept get paid more than the men. 

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You do have equal pay for equal work.  Just go work those construction jobs and manual labor.  Hell, even the women in my dept get paid more than the men. 

Strawmen and anecdotal evidence FTW!

Seriously, women choose different fields than men. And where they do choose the same fields, they are paid the same or more.  If women were paid less, why not hire all women?  Wage gap is nonsense.

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Franken always was a terrible comedian. Probably why he became a politician.

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You do have equal pay for equal work.  Just go work those construction jobs and manual labor.  Hell, even the women in my dept get paid more than the men. 

Strawmen and anecdotal evidence FTW!

Seriously, women choose different fields than men. And where they do choose the same fields, they are paid the same or more.  If women were paid less, why not hire all women?  Wage gap is nonsense.

There are studies that show that you are simply wrong on facts.

There are official Bureau of Labor statistics showing that I'm right: https://www.aei.org/publication/new-bls-report-on-womens-earnings-much-of-the-17-gender-pay-gap-in-2014-explained-by-age-marriage-hours-worked/

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The GOP trots out the parents of people lost in combat to rail on Hillary and the Dems trot out a disabled person to rail on Trump. 

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The GOP trots out the parents of people lost in combat to rail on Hillary and the Dems trot out a disabled person to rail on Trump. 

This is a person speaking for herself, not a woman dishonoring the memory of her son.

Whatever makes you feel better about it.  I think both acts are cheap and classless.

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I voted for Sanders, but these rude supporters are so embarrassing.

Hillary is not the Devil. She's not bad at all.

Awful behavior like this is only hurting the revolution that these people claim they want.

She's the Wicked Witch of the East. Corrupt, doesn't care about security or law, does what she wants to serve her own ends.  She's not that different than Trump.  Just more intelligent and more sinister.

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It feels like Sanders' party, not Clinton.

I mean, we're kinda going to be in control of the party in the next 10 or 20 years...

Yeah, and with that, skyrockets the national debt.

LOL, like it hasn't skyrocketed already. Drop the War on Terror and save a lot of money (and lives).

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It feels like Sanders' party, not Clinton.

I mean, we're kinda going to be in control of the party in the next 10 or 20 years...

Yeah, and with that, skyrockets the national debt.

LOL, like it hasn't skyrocketed already. Drop the War on Terror and save a lot of money (and lives).

True, but you have to keep an eye on Islam.

Just watch our borders. Don't need a big wall, just vigilance and scrutiny of those coming into the country.

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Yes, Bernie, but Socialism is NEVER THE ANSWER.

Socialism isn't an all or nothing thing. You don't have to go full retard socialist, and our country wouldn't have under Bernie.

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I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER BERNIE! SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER

Okay, I guess you're against the fire department, the police, national parks, public libraries, etc.

That isn't typically considered to fall under the umbrella of Socialism. Free education and health care does.

The best health care systems in the world are "socialist".  We've had "free" education K-12 for about a century.

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Anti-TPP, anti-big-pharma, single payer healthcare. Will Hillary live up to any of this? I don't theenk so.

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Anti-TPP, anti-big-pharma, single payer healthcare. Will Hillary live up to any of this? I don't theenk so.

Without huge majorities, of course not.

Thank god she'll still support TPP.

Why? Do you love corporatism and hate small business? Even without the scandals around Hillary; this is why I never could vote for her.

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Did this lady get lost on the way to the RNC? Ah-main? LOL

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I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER BERNIE! SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER

Okay, I guess you're against the fire department, the police, national parks, public libraries, etc.

That isn't typically considered to fall under the umbrella of Socialism. Free education and health care does.

You can't pick and choose like that, economics isn't al a carte. If you pay tax dollars that are in turn used for services, that is socialism. When everyone pays a share, then it's socialism.

That is a definition you yourself invented. In the same spirit of individual definitional innovation I suggest another defintion: urinating is socialism. If you ever urinated in your life, you are a socialist.  You cannot pick and choose here: this is not a la carte.

BTW, what is a carte?

a carte = menu. From the menu.

Anyway, yes you can. You can socialize healthcare but not all business. Socialize education but not all schools. 

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Most disabled people I know don't even like the ADA.

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Most disabled people I know don't even like the ADA.

Let me guess, the ADA needs to be repealed? It's just a burdensome, left wing regulation that holds down small business, right?

Not really, it's just because they don't want want to be treated differently than non-disabled people.

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With mainstream choices like these, I'd want to stay home and not vote too if it weren't for third parties.