UK AV Referendum - Results Thread

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Isle of Scilly
542 - NO
288 - YES

The first result

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Argyll and Bute says No. So does Vale of Clwyd!

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Atleast Clegg can take comfort that the 'Yes' vote is running ahead of his approval rating.

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Chris Huhne just compared the No campaign to the birthers on Sky News...

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The government tensions of the past few weeks seem to be too... quiet.

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The government tensions of the past few weeks seem to be too... quiet.

I wonder what tensions will surface in Labour?

None probably, but they're definately there...

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"Red Ed" is more right-wing than John Major.

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At the risk of sounding like a Conservative:

He's the walking, talking example that AV would've given us "2nd best" politicians - Who was the most popular with the public, most popular with the party, most popular in the first three rounds, until... AV gives us the miserable, little compromise Miliband.

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Not really. A centrist party that is also the largest party though... The Chrétien Liberals would have enjoyed even larger majorities under AV.

AV ensures larger majorities, centrist parties or not. Majorites aren't exactly bad, but large ones lead to complacency. MMP (or AV+) atleast mean that the result is fairly proportional, small parties don't get shut out and majorities can be acheived if the leading party is popular enough (SNP, for example), which i'd, personally, be okay with. It also means that everyone still has their local MP, which is fairly important in terms of illusionment and disillusionment.

Closed list is brilliant, it's one person, one vote, but the party leadership is too dominant in selection and we'd be governed by 650 faceless MPs and constant coalition isn't always the best idea.

STV is fine, but isn't always the most proportional it can be (see Fianna Fail's 20 seats on 17.4%. 17.4% should've gotten them about 30.)

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The honourable member for Shipley tells it like it is:

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You make the mistake of assuming that he ever stood for anything.

It's not only about convictions or wanting to change things. The way he acted totally destroyed his political carreer, making him a total joke.

And his party...

If Cameron was called "Mr. Ten Percent" in 2009, then this marriage of political convenience must mean that Clegg is Mrs. Ten Percent in 2011.

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10% approval ratings ? Yeah, makes sense.

10% voting intention, but it's just as bad

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You make the mistake of assuming that he ever stood for anything.

It's not only about convictions or wanting to change things. The way he acted totally destroyed his political carreer, making him a total joke.

Meh. He was the leader of the permanent centrist out-of-government eternal random protest party. And now he has a ministerial car. From his point of view...

The LibDems - More interested in cabinet seats over concessions.

Tory minority would've been so much better for the Liberals... (and the country, for that matter, because it wouldn't be able to be so extreme).