To tell the truth I like Ted Kruz

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

The Bible says :
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Those who reject these ideas are not Christians; they are miserable hypocrites that abound in contemporary world. Disrespect to the Bible will lead you, Americans, to self destruction. 

but the bible also says "thou shalt not kill" and ted cruz violated that at least five times

[Türkisblau]

I thought the Americans to be more religious.
For me the fact that Cruz is a baptist is another his advantage. I'm indifferent to religion but sympathise with the baptists due to their firm addiction to Christian values.

Being religious does not equate being socially conservative.

Yeah, I'm very religious but am socially liberal.

Turn away from your Mohammedan cult and find Jesus.

[egalitt]

My position is simple: European civilization has been based on the Christianity and if you reject Christian norms formulated in the BIBLE   you undermine  the existence of this civilization. The Bible  unequivocally condemns sodomites and demands that they should be punished.
Let's take France. It has become normal for French Presidents to be unfaithful to their spouses. Such newspaper headlines as French leader's mistress is seen enjoying a beach holiday with another man are usual things that do not damage their political carreers at all. Though the Bible condemns adultery as a mortal sin. Actully modern Frenchman are a non-Christian nation.
My idea is that a single person  and the whole nation can be estimated by the the degree of deviation from Biblical norms. And Cruz seems less deviated.

[emailking]

The Bible says :
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Those who reject these ideas are not Christians; they are miserable hypocrites that abound in contemporary world. Disrespect to the Bible will lead you, Americans, to self destruction. 

The Bible also says:

"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." (Exodus 21: 20-21)

Do agree with that too?

My position is simple: European civilization has been based on the Christianity and if you reject Christian norms formulated in the BIBLE   you undermine  the existence of this civilization.

It's just a book.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

The Bible says :
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Those who reject these ideas are not Christians; they are miserable hypocrites that abound in contemporary world. Disrespect to the Bible will lead you, Americans, to self destruction. 

The Bible also says:

"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." (Exodus 21: 20-21)

Do agree with that too?

My position is simple: European civilization has been based on the Christianity and if you reject Christian norms formulated in the BIBLE   you undermine  the existence of this civilization.

It's just a book.

The Bible is a book of history, as well as of law.  The Scripture you quote is a civil law of the Hebrews which are not binding on today's Church.  When asked which commandment of the ten was the greatest, Jesus answered as follows:

(Deuteronomy 6:1-19; Mark 12:28-34)


34But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 35Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


"Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having been made a curse for us." 

[Kalimantan]

Ah, the bible. Thankfully just a book. Although amazing how much of a socialist Jesus was, would make a refreshing change for the Repubs:

Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same. Luke 3:11 NIV

Although it does contain some weird rules:

Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads. Leviticus 19:27

No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. Deuteronomy 23:1 NRSV

and God is revealed as a complete bastard:

Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18

[emailking]

The Bible says :
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Those who reject these ideas are not Christians; they are miserable hypocrites that abound in contemporary world. Disrespect to the Bible will lead you, Americans, to self destruction. 

The Bible also says:

"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." (Exodus 21: 20-21)

Do agree with that too?

My position is simple: European civilization has been based on the Christianity and if you reject Christian norms formulated in the BIBLE   you undermine  the existence of this civilization.

It's just a book.

The Bible is a book of history, as well as of law.  The Scripture you quote is a civil law of the Hebrews which are not binding on today's Church. 

Oh how convenient for the Church that it gets to cherrypick what it likes and doesn't like from the its holy book. =P

In context, it's a law that was claimed to have come directly from God (unless Moses is a liar). egalitt thinks homosexuality is wrong because of that biblical passage in which God says it is wrong. So we'll see if he's consistent (as some Christians are) and accepts that passage too, or if he has some obtuse justification for it, as you do.

[wolfsblood07]

It should be kept in the closet!  Denied of existence with a wink and a nudge... just like it was in the 50s!

[Wisconsin+17]

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Yes, when he's totally saying that the one who doesn't invest his talents has them taken away and given to the one who has more.

[egalitt]

I am surprised at narrow-mindness of commentators.
The Bible has lots of material including description of mortal sins, simple sins, various reccomendatins, stories, etc.
If you are Christian you mustn't sin. This is the main point.
Recommedations,  especially outdated ones,  can be safely ignored. Homosexuality isn't a recommendation. It is described as a sin that must be punished. To treat slaves properly is a recommendation that was important when slavery was common practice.
If you can't differentiate between sins and recommendations you are hopeless.

[emailking]

I am surprised at narrow-mindness of commentators.
The Bible has lots of material including description of mortal sins, simple sins, various reccomendatins, stories, etc.
If you are Christian you mustn't sin. This is the main point.
Recommedations,  especially outdated ones,  can be safely ignored.

How do you know the homosexuality recommendation isn't outdated?

[Wisconsin+17]

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That's a good question. I ain't *narrow-mindedness* for folks to agree that biblical principles are true.

Let's see how he answers this question.

[Torie]

I am surprised at narrow-mindness of commentators.
The Bible has lots of material including description of mortal sins, simple sins, various reccomendatins, stories, etc.
If you are Christian you mustn't sin. This is the main point.
Recommedations,  especially outdated ones,  can be safely ignored.

"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." (Exodus 21: 20-21)

The text in red seems more like an command edict than a mere precatory recommendation, but that is just me.

If some conduct is sinful, should it necessarily be outlawed? If not, what is the metric for deciding what sinful conduct should be outlawed, and what not, based on reverting to the Bible as the ultimate authority or whatever?

I just want to know in this more perfect of worlds if it ever came to pass, whether I would be consigned to jail or not.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Lots of conduct is sinful but doesn't need to result in a criminal conviction. This isn't a difficult question. If you look at the common law, you'll get your answers here - as to what conduct should or should not result in convictions.

[user12345]

This topic has become more about apologetics than this "Ted Kruz" the op speaks of.

[DINGO Joe]

This topic has become more about apologetics than this "Ted Kruz" the op speaks of.

Although, "What kind of theocracy would Ted Kruz run?" is a relevant discussion.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I support gay marriage, abortions, legal use of marijuana, and the candidacy of Ted Cruz for President

I support legal marijuana in cases of a Ted Cruz presidency.

[TJ in Oregon]

I support gay marriage, abortions, legal use of marijuana, and the candidacy of Ted Cruz for President

These times call for strange bedfellows indeed.

One thing about this election that really has done us a favor is that it has revealed the folks who are simply in politics/the media for a paycheck or entertainment with no regard for humanity. The secret conservative scam artists are now unmasked.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I oppose the first two.  As to marijuana, I advocate decriminalization, but not legalization.

Decriminalization is the worst of the three options.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Although it does contain some weird rules:

Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19

Beside its symbolic purpose of echoing that the Israelites are to be a peculiar people (in the original meaning of the word peculiar), there's the simple fact that such materials are an indulgent luxury by the standards of the time because they take more effort to make and maintain. The OT has several anti-luxury rules.