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psychprofessor
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« on: August 23, 2016, 06:28:25 PM »

I just don't get the fascination with emails and the foundation, etc...

Not one email or correspondence indicates that she solicited for donations to the foundation. Further, there is no evidence that any person donated to the foundation for favors at the state dept.

From all accounts, Republicans and Democrats praised the work of the foundation, including Mitt Romney.

This story is misleading because it wants you to infer by Hillary meeting with people who donated to the foundation, that there was some favors exchanged at the state dept - which isn't the case - at least not presented in this article or any of the emails reviewed by the FBI and Justice Dept.
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psychprofessor
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 06:52:11 PM »

I just don't get the fascination with emails and the foundation, etc...

Not one email or correspondence indicates that she solicited for donations to the foundation. Further, there is no evidence that any person donated to the foundation for favors at the state dept.

From all accounts, Republicans and Democrats praised the work of the foundation, including Mitt Romney.

This story is misleading because it wants you to infer by Hillary meeting with people who donated to the foundation, that there was some favors exchanged at the state dept - which isn't the case - at least not presented in this article or any of the emails reviewed by the FBI and Justice Dept.
I don't think it's misleading at all. If a corruption case were ever to be proven against Hillary and the Clinton Foundation, you'd need to begin with an analysis like this, where you see all of the folks that got extraordinary treatment after donating.

Right now, there are 85 instances out of 154 where donors got access. That's a extraordinary number, especially when Obama was trying to set up a wall between State and the Foundation and Hillary made assurances that a wall would exist.

The next steps for any investigators would be twofold: 1) see what tangible results the people that donated to the Clinton Foundation received (e.g. favors from State); and 2) discern what the payment was either to the Clinton Foundation or Bill Clinton (via paid speeches) in return.

If it happened once, it's not a big deal.
If it happened a few times, it may be a coincidence, but you really have start thinking about whether things were on the up and up.
If it happened repeatedly, it's evidence of corruption. As such charges should be brought.

I can agree with this - but it wasn't unknown that Hillary would be meeting with people as SOS who also donated to the foundation. Thus far, however, there has been no evidence of Hillary specifically meeting with people as SOS to solicit money for the foundation nor has there been evidence that people who donated were granted favors at the State Dept.

There was that one email from last week that asked Huma Abedin about a possible opening at the State Dept but supposedly it didn't reach Hillary and nothing happened for that person.

If you want my honest opinion, I just don't think Hillary is corrupt. I mean, she had thousands of emails released, thousands more reviewed by the Justice Dept and FBI and the big issue was that three of them contained classified info in the body - however, they weren't marked classified in the header. To me, 3 out of over 30,000 doesn't seem careless or reckless, it just seems like human error.

You can try and understand the motives for the privater server - which I don't agree with, but it wasn't illegal.

Colin Powell deleted ALL of this emails. Same for Condi Rice. However, the focus is never ending on what Clinton did and didn't do. The double standard applied to her versus everyone else astounds me sometimes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2016, 06:58:38 PM »

I just don't get the fascination with emails and the foundation, etc...

Not one email or correspondence indicates that she solicited for donations to the foundation. Further, there is no evidence that any person donated to the foundation for favors at the state dept.

From all accounts, Republicans and Democrats praised the work of the foundation, including Mitt Romney.

This story is misleading because it wants you to infer by Hillary meeting with people who donated to the foundation, that there was some favors exchanged at the state dept - which isn't the case - at least not presented in this article or any of the emails reviewed by the FBI and Justice Dept.

Completely agree.
Unless there is proof of some kind of illegal activity (quid pro quo, etc) it doesn't really matter if they "MET WITH HER AT STATE" or if they met and talked over the divider wall between two toilet stalls at a nearby park.
There is ample evidence of a quid pro quo between Hillary as SoS and the Clinton Foundation/Bill Clinton in the book Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer. More likely than not, it's the tip of the iceberg of what went on between the Clintons, their Foundation and private donors.

I actually think there is more evidence that Trump paid off Pam Bondi in Florida to dismiss the fraud case against Trump U than there is in anything that has been released thus far with Clinton. But that doesn't mean I don't thinks something corrupt could have occurred - it just means that so far, what tax information and public documents that foundation has released coupled with her emails so far, nothing seems fishy to me. Not yet, anyways.
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