LOCKER ROOM TALK?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A little context.

This came just after he, as Attorney General, was being impeached by a bipartisan coalition led ironically by myself and then Senator Blair, because he was filing false treason charges against myself and Classic Conservative, meanwhile he was engaging in treason himself by endorsing the rebellion of Governor TNF in the Midwest.

It was rather frustrating that despite the warnings of Senator Cris and others based on his troubled history including even a previous rebellion, that he was appointed and confirmed four months prior as AG and the results were unfortunately so predictable.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You know Atlasia is getting decadent when the scandals are so dull.

Yea, so many Atlasian's don't remember TNF and Napoleon or even Adam in his younger days. Much less Hamilton in his original form and all the stuff that used to go down in 2009.

I'd consider pulling my endorsement...

Except I never endorsed him

Perhaps we should discuss some of your posts back in the day, "Crazy Kal".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You know Atlasia is getting decadent when the scandals are so dull.

Yea, so many Atlasian's don't remember TNF and Napoleon or even Adam in his younger days. Much less Hamilton in his original form and all the stuff that used to go down in 2009.

I mean, no internet stalking, no customs songs of distaste, no attack videos, no accusations of fascism, baldness or fondness for local dictators, no leaks...

How fast has our nation changed!

Its a paradox. Not having this means that the tactics of people like TNF is not driving people off, but on the other hand Atlasia is more boring than it used to be.

Part of this is because a lot of this stuff that used to be done on the AFE board, people work out of their system on IRC chat rooms.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Its a paradox. Not having this means that the tactics of people like TNF is not driving people off, but on the other hand Atlasia is more boring than it used to be.

I guess we'll have to retire personality politics and talk about the issues. Darn.

Its more complex than that though. This implies that there weren't debates about issues during the TNF era, there were in fact plenty and it is hard to admit at times but even Duke acknowledged the role he played in the Senate in driving debates.  

We need to find ways to make Atlasia more interesting without getting back to the kind of negativity that used to drive so many people away and was counterproductive in that sense.

The irony is that TNF would say his tactics were all about policy. And indeed he was one of the most policy oriented players in the game. The problem was it was rather extreme as you will recall and his only way of defending it was to paint opponents as being fascist or whatever.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Its a paradox. Not having this means that the tactics of people like TNF is not driving people off, but on the other hand Atlasia is more boring than it used to be.

I guess we'll have to retire personality politics and talk about the issues. Darn.

Its more complex than that though. This implies that there weren't debates about issues during the TNF era, there were in fact plenty and it is hard to admit at times but even Duke acknowledged the role he played in the Senate in driving debates.  

We need to find ways to make Atlasia more interesting without getting back to the kind of negativity that used to drive so many people away and was counterproductive in that sense.

The irony is that TNF would say his tactics were all about policy. And indeed he was one of the most policy oriented players in the game. The problem was it was rather extreme as you will recall and his only way of defending it was to paint opponents as being fascist or whatever.

Admittedly, I wasn't around for most of TNF's tenure in the Senate; I registered a month or so before he began his final term, and I didn't really become personally involved in national politics until July - by which point he had abandoned all pretense and embraced the July Anarchy with both arms. I do remember interviewing him about his "militia" when I was still writing for the Mideast Record-Courier, but other than that, we didn't really cross paths.

I've always felt wonkishness was a kind of elitism in this game - it seems a certain kind of a man is apt to confuse intelligence with value, and by extension to conclude that those they perceive as less  intelligent are worthless. That's not to say that thoughtful, thorough legislating ought not to be the ideal towards which we strive, for of course it should be. It has nevertheless been my experience that some of the smartest posters in the game are also the nastiest, and that's true of both the right and the left.

Ironically, it seems we have come full circle. Al's confirmation in early 2015 was justfied, despite his long record as well Al, because "he's a legal expert".

Perhaps the best thing to come of that whole dark episode, is that someone other than me is now making posts like that of yours above. In that sense, and here we have another paradox, if you have become "Yankee's Pawn" or whatever it was they used to call you, to the extent we share similar views, it is because their actions (their treatment of you) made you see things this way.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Admittedly, I wasn't around for most of TNF's tenure in the Senate; I registered a month or so before he began his final term, and I didn't really become personally involved in national politics until July - by which point he had abandoned all pretense and embraced the July Anarchy with both arms. I do remember interviewing him about his "militia" when I was still writing for the Mideast Record-Courier, but other than that, we didn't really cross paths.

TNF probably composed more legislation than any one person in the history of Atlasia in his two years in the Senate. He wholeheartedly believed that his ideology was correct and that everyone else was wrong/corrupt/evil. He was both an extreme socialist/marxist on economics and an extreme libertarian on social issues. Whenever a bill would fail, he would just keep reintroducing it until he got the votes to pass it. It was annoying as PPT because I would try and clear the blacklog of bills by giving him extra slots and he would just reintroduce the same bill that failed immediately after it was voted down, along with five or six more.

In probably the prize winning example of bipartisanship, I managed to wade through the insults and diatribes to construct a bill on cooperatives with him.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I for one am morally outraged at this transcript and demand that Mr. Yankee withdraw from the race

Speaking as a highly respected elder statesman of atlasia, I must say that this revelation (and there is no other word for it) is deeply disturbing. I say this with deep regret, but it's clear that a vote for Yankee has become unconscionable.

Highly respected on a personal level, but the last phase of your presidency was really bad.

bore is easily the most underappreciated president in Atlas history and his opposition was nothing but a secretive cabal of uncouth ruffians who placed their obscene personal ambition ahead of the national well-being

Bore appointed an Attorney General with a terrible track record, who then openly joined a rebellion and brought false charges against his opponents and then he refused to dismiss him forcing Blair and myself to impeach him. His Vice President fled the country and called for the surrender of the country, leading to him being impeached also.

I have a lot of respect for Bore from his time as Senator, in which he was great. But there is no other way to describe Bore's Presidency then a disaster.

That is rich coming from one of the many members of a very dangerous cabal that actively tried to dissolve both a region and Atlasia as a whole. Most of whom not surprisingly, have slithered out of #Atlasforum to attack, disparage and distract from their own records of treason, incompetence, bad judgement, discord and disunity to cast aspersion not only on myself once again but also my distinguished opponent, Secretary Truman and the bipartisan group that rallied last year to save this game, and despite the opposition and attempted sabotage of the same said cabal, we succeeded.

I hope Atlasians will note the source of these attacks and treat them as they should be treated, as the nasty attacks derived from the personal obsession latched onto me by the IRClique dating back to 2013.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

"Respected" Elder Statesmen
 

Arnold, Burr and Davis.

Sounds like a cheap law firm, fitting.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Great post Bacon King (highly respected elder statesman). The mass gaslighting of the Atlasian public in regards to Bore's principled and courageous tenure is appalling. If you'd listened to Bore you'd all be better off. I'd compare his last month or so to Eisenhower's speech on the military industrial complex.

If Atlasia had listened to you and the rest of your clique, every new person playing this game. Everyone who has joined since July 2015, would not be here playing today because the game would not exist.

I encourage everyone, whether you support myself or Blair or someone else, to remember this fact.