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Fubart Solman
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 12:32:15 AM »

Bernie is an unelectable Socialist (self-described) in the general election. Bernie has been an independent politician for the last 40 years and I can't grasp how he can be eligible for the Democratic Nomination since (as best I can tell) he has never been a member of the party.

Vermont has no party registration, so there was never a possible way for Sanders to really become a member of the democratic party. He caucuses with the Democrats in the senate. He typically votes with democratic leadership on important bills.

Leahy calls himself a Democrat and is a Democrat for all intents and purposes.

I haven't heard anything about Howard Dean, another Vermont Democrat, having issues back in 2004.

But, to go back to what you're saying, Bernie can effectively call himself anything he wants because there's no party registration. If it wasn't an issue 11 years ago for Dean, it shouldn't be now.

The whole argument about party registration is a joke. Bill Clinton wasn't a registered Democrat either.

But, muh state election laws (that haven't been used that way in the past)
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2015, 02:20:03 AM »

There will probably be a few polls around August that show Sanders in the lead. We'll all circlejerk, and probably end up disappointed when Hillary wins the nom anyway.
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2015, 09:30:06 AM »

Never.
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2015, 01:58:48 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2015, 03:56:19 PM »


Did you guys read the poll question?
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« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2015, 04:01:12 PM »


Are you having the temerity to question my reading comprehension skills?
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2015, 04:15:04 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2015, 04:30:09 PM by Eraserhead »


The article you linked to presents the idea that Sanders can win in Iowa and New Hampshire and then lose everything after that. The poll question here is only asking about when he'll overtake Clinton in the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire (not nationally or in any other specific state).
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2015, 06:05:35 PM »


The article you linked to presents the idea that Sanders can win in Iowa and New Hampshire and then lose everything after that. The poll question here is only asking about when he'll overtake Clinton in the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire (not nationally or in any other specific state).

That is what happens when you bifurcate the question on two separate pages. If Biden gets in, it would be interesting to speculate whom he would hurt more, Hillary or Sanders, in these two states.
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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2015, 06:08:45 PM »

I'm sure he would hurt Sanders more as the race right now is really Hillary vs. not Hillary. Anti-Hillary people would switch to Biden because he would be seen as a more viable challenger. I think if Biden does get in, it's probably because Hillary asks him to.
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2015, 06:18:28 PM »

Biden would be big with black voters cause he would be seen as Obama's illegitimate child. Thus he would probably do better in the south than in the rest of the US. Biden has close to no charisma (if one could measure charisma in negative score, he would in fact have a strong negative score just like Cruz & Palin lol), and everyone who is not black has realized this many years ago lol. I mean seriously, even Sanders has more charisma than Biden and Sanders has approximately 0.0% charisma!
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2015, 06:21:23 PM »

Biden would probably pull voters from both of them but I think he would almost certainly pull more from Hillary.
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2015, 12:16:31 AM »

The 10 people who voted "August" for NH (incl. me) were right.

It happened.
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2015, 01:13:52 AM »

The 10 people who voted "August" for NH (incl. me) were right.

It happened.

Color me surprised, I'm feeling the Bern now fo real.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2015, 01:59:36 AM »

August for NH and October for IA.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie takes the lead in somewhere like Maine (and Vermont, of course) before he leads in IA.
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2015, 05:42:06 AM »

Somewhat random question: If Sanders actually does hold on and wins New Hampshire (or any other primary, for that matter) would he be the first Jewish person to win a presidential primary or caucus in any state?
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2015, 06:49:35 AM »

Somewhat random question: If Sanders actually does hold on and wins New Hampshire (or any other primary, for that matter) would he be the first Jewish person to win a presidential primary or caucus in any state?


Yes.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2015, 07:18:25 AM »

The 10 people who voted "August" for NH (incl. me) were right.

It happened.

I voted August for NH and September for Iowa. Curious when you guessed an Iowa poll would first show him in the lead.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2015, 08:32:52 AM »

The 10 people who voted "August" for NH (incl. me) were right.

It happened.

I voted August for NH and September for Iowa. Curious when you guessed an Iowa poll would first show him in the lead.

Same as you:

I'd say August for NH and September for IA.
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