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« Reply #1800 on: February 26, 2017, 08:55:05 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.

contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

As long as we're re-litigating the primary (which is dumb and stupid and not what this is about); NO!

Here are the 10 most aired ads

Of the 6 run by Clinton
1) Trump mocked disabled people
2) Trump isn't reliable with Nukes
3) HRC cares about our kids in unspecific ways
4) Trump is so bad Republicans should vote for Hillary
5) HRC loves our kids so they should have jobs and go to school
6) Trump shouldn't be president because he's sexist.

NONE of those are running on the platform she agreed to. NONE of them involve specific policies. Only two of them are positive at all.  

I don't know who people thought they were fooling with the platform. No one reads party platforms or follows party platforms. And yet the Bernie side still lost most of its fights over the party platform. Are we supposed to be excited that unlike the Hillary, the Democratic platform called for reinstating Glass Steagall? Well, so did the Republican platform.

Making donalds horrific lack of qualifications, general insanity, etc the focus of the campaign isn't the evil thing you make it out to be. It was a tactical mistake. A tactical mistake made by one campaign does not equal a deep ideological flaw in the party. The modern democrats biggest flaws are in tactics and organization, not muh establishment. PS the republican platform called for many horrific things. Don't compare random little elements of two platforms as if that makes them exactly the same. The democratic platform was focused on your wings ideas. The republican platform was focused on disgusting garbage.
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« Reply #1801 on: February 26, 2017, 09:04:08 PM »

The party specifically made Ellison vice-chair to pander to you people. Hillary turned her platform into a true leftist wet dream. Just a few examples.

1. Ellison isn't vice-chair, he's deputy chair. And that's an entirely new position that doesn't mean anything.

2. Hillary Clinton didn't run on a f-in' platform. Yes, stuff like minimum wage was in the platform. Did  she talk about that at the stump? Did she talk about that in her ads? No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.
Having gone to an actual rally, yes, she brought up the minimum wage, expanding the affordable care act, and student loans on multiple occasions. She called out Trump twice, but referred to the platform over a dozen times.

Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean she didn't run on that platform. If anything, it shows the bullsh*t about the emails and Trump's nonsense have crowded out everything else.
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« Reply #1802 on: February 26, 2017, 09:32:45 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.
contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

Did she talk about that in her ads? No, the ones that were in mass circulation were the ones about how mean/dangerous Trump was, not about jobs.

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Also, great to see washed up celebs asking for money for the DNC instead of pitching ideology or real vision.


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« Reply #1803 on: February 26, 2017, 10:06:28 PM »

Meanwhile Bernie continues to be a FF

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/26/dnc-race-in-rear-view-bernie-sanders-heads-to-kansas-to-rip-republican-policies/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.3c195192c04a
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« Reply #1804 on: February 26, 2017, 11:44:05 PM »

i was against bernie as general election candidate cause the US is the US but i got more respect for the guy than for 100 corbynites combined.
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« Reply #1805 on: February 27, 2017, 05:44:47 PM »

@keithellison's guest to tomorrow's speech: @TomPerez.
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« Reply #1806 on: February 27, 2017, 08:40:25 PM »

perez wants to make keith into the face of the Democrats and keith brings tom along.

+ they are together at a conference tomorrow.

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« Reply #1807 on: February 27, 2017, 08:43:46 PM »

@keithellison's guest to tomorrow's speech: @TomPerez.

Developing bromance, lol
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« Reply #1808 on: February 27, 2017, 08:49:19 PM »

this is practical unity.
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« Reply #1809 on: February 27, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »


They've gone about this in all the right ways so far.
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« Reply #1810 on: February 27, 2017, 09:04:36 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.

contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

As long as we're re-litigating the primary (which is dumb and stupid and not what this is about); NO!

Here are the 10 most aired ads

Of the 6 run by Clinton
1) Trump mocked disabled people
2) Trump isn't reliable with Nukes
3) HRC cares about our kids in unspecific ways
4) Trump is so bad Republicans should vote for Hillary
5) HRC loves our kids so they should have jobs and go to school
6) Trump shouldn't be president because he's sexist.

NONE of those are running on the platform she agreed to. NONE of them involve specific policies. Only two of them are positive at all.  

I don't know who people thought they were fooling with the platform. No one reads party platforms or follows party platforms. And yet the Bernie side still lost most of its fights over the party platform. Are we supposed to be excited that unlike the Hillary, the Democratic platform called for reinstating Glass Steagall? Well, so did the Republican platform.

Making donalds horrific lack of qualifications, general insanity, etc the focus of the campaign isn't the evil thing you make it out to be. It was a tactical mistake. A tactical mistake made by one campaign does not equal a deep ideological flaw in the party. The modern democrats biggest flaws are in tactics and organization, not muh establishment. PS the republican platform called for many horrific things. Don't compare random little elements of two platforms as if that makes them exactly the same. The democratic platform was focused on your wings ideas. The republican platform was focused on disgusting garbage.

Hillary is a compulsive liar with public and private positions, so of course she wasn't going to follow her parties platform any more than the average President does, which isn't much. And yet the Bernie side still lost the majority of their fights over some meaningless document that no on reads.
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« Reply #1811 on: February 27, 2017, 09:09:01 PM »


like every effing politican and - to be totally truthfully - every living person with a working brain, imho.
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« Reply #1812 on: February 27, 2017, 09:14:04 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.

contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

As long as we're re-litigating the primary (which is dumb and stupid and not what this is about); NO!

Here are the 10 most aired ads

Of the 6 run by Clinton
1) Trump mocked disabled people
2) Trump isn't reliable with Nukes
3) HRC cares about our kids in unspecific ways
4) Trump is so bad Republicans should vote for Hillary
5) HRC loves our kids so they should have jobs and go to school
6) Trump shouldn't be president because he's sexist.

NONE of those are running on the platform she agreed to. NONE of them involve specific policies. Only two of them are positive at all.  

I don't know who people thought they were fooling with the platform. No one reads party platforms or follows party platforms. And yet the Bernie side still lost most of its fights over the party platform. Are we supposed to be excited that unlike the Hillary, the Democratic platform called for reinstating Glass Steagall? Well, so did the Republican platform.

Making donalds horrific lack of qualifications, general insanity, etc the focus of the campaign isn't the evil thing you make it out to be. It was a tactical mistake. A tactical mistake made by one campaign does not equal a deep ideological flaw in the party. The modern democrats biggest flaws are in tactics and organization, not muh establishment. PS the republican platform called for many horrific things. Don't compare random little elements of two platforms as if that makes them exactly the same. The democratic platform was focused on your wings ideas. The republican platform was focused on disgusting garbage.

Hillary is a compulsive liar with public and private positions, so of course she wasn't going to follow her parties platform any more than the average President does, which isn't much. And yet the Bernie side still lost the majority of their fights over some meaningless document that no on reads.

Every human has private positions.

And from what we learned about Hillary's secret speeches, she supported moving us to a single-payer system in the style of Canada, and to stop the focus on the Middle East and refocus and rebuilding ties within the Americas.
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« Reply #1813 on: February 27, 2017, 09:22:12 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.

contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

As long as we're re-litigating the primary (which is dumb and stupid and not what this is about); NO!

Here are the 10 most aired ads

Of the 6 run by Clinton
1) Trump mocked disabled people
2) Trump isn't reliable with Nukes
3) HRC cares about our kids in unspecific ways
4) Trump is so bad Republicans should vote for Hillary
5) HRC loves our kids so they should have jobs and go to school
6) Trump shouldn't be president because he's sexist.

NONE of those are running on the platform she agreed to. NONE of them involve specific policies. Only two of them are positive at all.  

I don't know who people thought they were fooling with the platform. No one reads party platforms or follows party platforms. And yet the Bernie side still lost most of its fights over the party platform. Are we supposed to be excited that unlike the Hillary, the Democratic platform called for reinstating Glass Steagall? Well, so did the Republican platform.

Making donalds horrific lack of qualifications, general insanity, etc the focus of the campaign isn't the evil thing you make it out to be. It was a tactical mistake. A tactical mistake made by one campaign does not equal a deep ideological flaw in the party. The modern democrats biggest flaws are in tactics and organization, not muh establishment. PS the republican platform called for many horrific things. Don't compare random little elements of two platforms as if that makes them exactly the same. The democratic platform was focused on your wings ideas. The republican platform was focused on disgusting garbage.

Hillary is a compulsive liar with public and private positions, so of course she wasn't going to follow her parties platform any more than the average President does, which isn't much. And yet the Bernie side still lost the majority of their fights over some meaningless document that no on reads.

Every human has private positions.

And from what we learned about Hillary's secret speeches, she supported moving us to a single-payer system in the style of Canada, and to stop the focus on the Middle East and refocus and rebuilding ties within the Americas.

Hillary made it very clear that she was opposed to single payer in the debates. And her record of supporting every bad war in the middle east speaks for itself. Her private positions were generally even crazier than her public positions, with support of the Panama/Columbia free trade deal, and calling people opposed to fracking Russian operatives.
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« Reply #1814 on: February 27, 2017, 10:28:11 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.

contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

As long as we're re-litigating the primary (which is dumb and stupid and not what this is about); NO!

Here are the 10 most aired ads

Of the 6 run by Clinton
1) Trump mocked disabled people
2) Trump isn't reliable with Nukes
3) HRC cares about our kids in unspecific ways
4) Trump is so bad Republicans should vote for Hillary
5) HRC loves our kids so they should have jobs and go to school
6) Trump shouldn't be president because he's sexist.

NONE of those are running on the platform she agreed to. NONE of them involve specific policies. Only two of them are positive at all.  

I don't know who people thought they were fooling with the platform. No one reads party platforms or follows party platforms. And yet the Bernie side still lost most of its fights over the party platform. Are we supposed to be excited that unlike the Hillary, the Democratic platform called for reinstating Glass Steagall? Well, so did the Republican platform.

Making donalds horrific lack of qualifications, general insanity, etc the focus of the campaign isn't the evil thing you make it out to be. It was a tactical mistake. A tactical mistake made by one campaign does not equal a deep ideological flaw in the party. The modern democrats biggest flaws are in tactics and organization, not muh establishment. PS the republican platform called for many horrific things. Don't compare random little elements of two platforms as if that makes them exactly the same. The democratic platform was focused on your wings ideas. The republican platform was focused on disgusting garbage.

Hillary is a compulsive liar with public and private positions, so of course she wasn't going to follow her parties platform any more than the average President does, which isn't much. And yet the Bernie side still lost the majority of their fights over some meaningless document that no on reads.

Every human has private positions.

And from what we learned about Hillary's secret speeches, she supported moving us to a single-payer system in the style of Canada, and to stop the focus on the Middle East and refocus and rebuilding ties within the Americas.

I am sorry every human being doesn't have a private position, you have to be a real piece of shi* to have one for every major issues. And most politicians too don't have it. Yes, there are a couple of topics where they don't share what they really think & mask their views. But on almost all major issues, if you actually have completely opposite positions & campaign on something completely different, then you are a flat out fraud.

Don't justify frauds.

Secondly there is nothing to suggest Hillary would push for a Single Payer. On the middle east, she supported overthrowing Assad, she voted for the Iraq War & pushed for the Libya intervention.

She was a terrible candidate with a baggage of scandals & was under FBI investigation. She & her die-hard supporters are the reason Trump is the President. They elected Trump !
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« Reply #1815 on: February 28, 2017, 08:15:24 AM »


They've gone about this in all the right ways so far.

I absolutely love it when my optimism is justified. It's so rare Cheesy
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« Reply #1816 on: February 28, 2017, 08:34:31 AM »

Hillary is out of the picture. Theres no need to keep bringing her up. Please just move on.
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« Reply #1817 on: February 28, 2017, 09:16:27 AM »

Hillary is out of the picture. Theres no need to keep bringing her up. Please just move on.

Let's do this.
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« Reply #1818 on: March 16, 2017, 09:40:58 AM »
« Edited: March 16, 2017, 09:47:31 AM by ApatheticAustrian »

Ellison grows on me each day.

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/842338650218192898

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/842343212081643522

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/842376385616330752

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/842371833840168961

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« Reply #1819 on: March 16, 2017, 11:00:51 AM »

Nice to see jfern picking and choosing whether he believes Hillary's public positions or private positions based on what keeps his narrative going.
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« Reply #1820 on: March 21, 2017, 07:18:14 PM »

next interesting talk...



if this messaging is holding on, ellison is going to be the face of the party as much as perez...
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« Reply #1821 on: March 21, 2017, 07:23:53 PM »

next interesting talk...



if this messaging is holding on, ellison is going to be the face of the party as much as perez...

Is the DNC trying to make Perez and Ellison into their own version of the Mario Bros? Because that would be kind of cool.

Plus, everyone knows Luigi's the better brother Wink
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« Reply #1822 on: March 21, 2017, 07:40:34 PM »

Maybe get rid of Mark Begich who is as corrupt as it can get out of the committee. He is not a democrat but a coporatist.
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« Reply #1823 on: April 07, 2017, 09:39:15 AM »




Perez and Bernie are teaming up for a tour of places where Dems have lost

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/04/06/bernie-sanders-and-dnc-chair-tom-perez-to-unite-for-cross-country-tour/


what a corporatist sell-out..... Wink
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« Reply #1824 on: April 07, 2017, 09:56:48 AM »


Shady a** Wall-streeter teaming up w/ that irrelevant communist. /s

Grin
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