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Title: Was the McMartin preschool trial a witch-hunt?
Post by: Scam of God on August 09, 2009, 09:30:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

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In 1983, Judy Johnson, mother of one of the Manhattan Beach, California preschool's young students, complained to the police that her son had been sodomized by her estranged husband and by McMartin teacher Ray Buckey, who was the grandson of school founder Virginia McMartin and son of administrator Peggy McMartin Buckey.[1][2]

Johnson's belief began when her son had painful bowel movements. What happened next is still disputed. Some sources state that at that time, he denied her suggestion that his preschool teachers had molested him.[1][3]

In addition, she also made several more accusations, including that people at the daycare had sexual encounters with animals, that "Peggy drilled a child under the arms" and "Ray flew in the air."[4][5] Ray Buckey was questioned, but was not prosecuted due to lack of evidence...

Several hundred children were then interviewed by the Children's Institute International (CII), a Los Angeles abuse therapy clinic. The interviewing techniques used during investigations of the allegations were highly suggestive and invited children to pretend or speculate about supposed events.[12][13] By spring of 1984, it was claimed that 360 children had been abused....

Some of the accusations were described as "bizarre",[5] overlapping with accusations that mirrored the just-starting satanic ritual abuse panic.[3] It was alleged that, in addition to having been sexually abused, they saw witches fly, traveled in a hot-air balloon, and were taken through underground tunnels.[3] When shown a series of photographs by Danny Davis, the McMartins' lawyer, one child identified actor Chuck Norris as one of the abusers.[1]

Some of the abuse was alleged to have occurred in secret tunnels beneath the school. Several investigations turned up evidence of old buildings on the site and other debris from before the school was built, but no evidence of any rooms was found.

Of course it was, along with the entirety of the "Satanic panic" of the 1980s that so many conservatives found politically advantageous. These scumbag Christian hypocrites would drum it into the heads of children they'd been molested, and their white trash disciples would believe it. And why? Because that's what Christianity does, since the days of Constantine and caesropapism: use the machinery of the State to crush its religious competitors through false allegations and hysterics. Christianity is not interested in a free-market of faith.


Title: Re: Was the McMartin preschool trial a witch-hunt?
Post by: Sewer on August 09, 2009, 09:47:03 PM
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one child identified actor Chuck Norris as one of the abusers
Fuck Chuck.


Title: Re: Was the McMartin preschool trial a witch-hunt?
Post by: Gustaf on August 12, 2009, 04:39:01 AM
You think the witch-hunt mentality is dependent on Christianity? Oh boy...I doubt there are many English-speaking articles on the witch-hunts that have occured in Scandinavia in recent years but just take my word - you're wrong.

Besides, there is no mention of Christianity in the article. You're the one making the inferences without any logical foundation.


Title: Re: Was the McMartin preschool trial a witch-hunt?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 12, 2009, 10:48:44 AM
You think the witch-hunt mentality is dependent on Christianity? Oh boy...I doubt there are many English-speaking articles on the witch-hunts that have occured in Scandinavia in recent years but just take my word - you're wrong.

Besides, there is no mention of Christianity in the article. You're the one making the inferences without any logical foundation.

He's arguing that it was Christian-based because it was an attempt to scapegoat Satanism. There is some initial truth to that considering the early propogators of the satanic ritual abuse myth were fundamentalist Christians, see the now-debunked book Michelle Remembers. The problem with his argument is that the moral panic was initially largely just for money and publicity. It's hard to argue that LaVeyism, (supposedly the "religious competitor" in question) is a large threat to Christianity, nor were any of the scapegoated followers of it (most likely they were Christian as well.) So yeah, it's a baseless and silly attack.