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Title: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Psychic Octopus on September 06, 2009, 10:30:20 PM
Kirsten Gillibrand
Mitt Romney
Stephanie Sandlin
David Petraeus
Jeb Bush

(In No Particular Order)

Navy = 2012
Red = 2016
Orange = Applicable to Both


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: pogo stick on September 06, 2009, 11:42:44 PM
Mike Pence
Sarah Palin
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Hillary Clinton

Bold = 2012
Yellow bold = 2016


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: BM on September 07, 2009, 03:29:17 AM
Why Stephanie? She's staying put in the House and even if Tim Johnson retires (doubtful) it wouldn't be until 2014, also the soonest she could possibly be elected governor. And she's a Blue Dog at that. She may have potential but probably not top 5 for next in line.



Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on September 07, 2009, 09:55:01 AM
Kirsten Gillibrand
Mitt Romney
Stephanie Sandlin
David Petraeus
Jeb Bush

Yay Gillibrand :D
Jeb Bush shouldn't be up there though, the Bushes are finished for at least a generation.

Well I think these guys are most likely:

Willard Mitten Romney
Charles Joseph Crist Jr.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton
Joeseph Robinette Biden Jr. (Not by election, but there's always the chance Obama will be assasianted)
Kirsten Elizabeth Rutnik Gillibrand (I'm hoping for this)
 


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on September 07, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
Why does Romney always seem to make the list? He will never become President.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on September 07, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
Anyway, for me the list is, in no particular order:

Mike Huckabee
Charlie Crist
Tim Pawlenty
Hillary Clinton
Joseph Biden


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 07, 2009, 12:57:26 PM
In no particular order:
Mitt Romney
Charlie Crist
Joseph Biden
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Sarah Palin


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: zclark1994 on September 07, 2009, 02:53:42 PM
I have to have 3 different versions of this.

If Obama has a successful presidency:

1. Joe Biden
2. Hillary Clinton

I can't really see any other people running for president with a chance of success in 2016.

If Obama has a Mediocre 1st term:

1. Mitt Romney
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Joe Biden
4. Hillary Clinton

Pretty Self Explanatory.  This assumes that if his first term is ok, but not above average, that the Democrats will not nominate Obama and go for Biden or Hillary.

If Obama has a bad 1st term:

1. Mitt Romney
2. Tim Pawlenty

Self explanatory.  Democrats lose control of congress in 2010, and Republicans become 2008's democrats.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: You kip if you want to... on September 07, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
Fmr Governor Mitt Romney (Only after a potential 2012 win)
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Vice President Joe Biden
Senator Mark Warner
Senator Alexi Giannoulias


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 07, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
Joe Biden
Mitt Romney
Tim Pawlenty
Hillary Clinton

Not sure about #5.....Charlie Crist or Mark Warner maybe?  I guess I'll go with Crist.  Jindal is also a possibility in 2016.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: H. Ross Peron on September 10, 2009, 07:23:41 PM

If Obama has a Mediocre 1st term:

1. Mitt Romney
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Joe Biden
4. Hillary Clinton

Pretty Self Explanatory.  This assumes that if his first term is ok, but not above average, that the Democrats will not nominate Obama and go for Biden or Hillary.



If an incumbent loses the nomination it's pretty unlikely that party will win the presidential election.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on September 15, 2009, 07:42:15 PM
Brian Schwietzer
Mark Warner
Mitt Romney

That's all I can think of at this point.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on December 22, 2009, 01:09:21 PM
Andrew Cuomo
Joe Biden
Kirsten Gillibrand
Brian Schweitzer
Hillary Clinton

In that order, from most to least likely.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: ShadowRocket on December 22, 2009, 03:59:45 PM
This is pressuming that some of the names mentioned are even elected to their respective offices:

Andrew Cuomo
Tim Pawlenty
Kelly Ayotte
Joe Sestak
Kristin Gillibrand

Cuomo, Gillbrand, and Sestak just strike as natural would-be heirs to Obama. Pawlenty is the GOP's best chance at taking back the White House in 2012, and I just have a feeling about Ayotte making a run down the line.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on December 22, 2009, 04:56:49 PM
[Insert five stock Republicans here]

I find it fairly unlikely that Obama will be followed by another Democrat...unless a worst-case scenario pops up whereby Biden assumes the presidency.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Vosem on December 23, 2009, 09:46:35 AM
Mitt Romney
John Thune
Tim Pawlenty
Joe Biden
Andrew Cuomo


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on December 23, 2009, 07:41:34 PM
2012
Mitt Romney

2016
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton
Kirsten Gillibrand
Charlie Crist



Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on December 23, 2009, 07:57:13 PM
2012
Mitt Romney

2016
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton
Kirsten Gillibrand
Charlie Christ



It's Charlie Crist, not Christ. He isn't the Messiah. BTW, do you still think Hillary is going to run and win in 2016?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 23, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Andrew Cuomo
Joe Biden
Kirsten Gillibrand
Brian Schweitzer
Hillary Clinton

In that order, from most to least likely.

Hack list.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on December 23, 2009, 11:41:25 PM
Andrew Cuomo
Joe Biden
Kirsten Gillibrand
Brian Schweitzer
Hillary Clinton

In that order, from most to least likely.

Hack list.

In my opinion, this is not a hack list (even though I should have but Schweitzer and Clinton above Gillibrand).  I just think Republicans need to have a longer time than 8 years for their brand to recover, especially how many people remember Bush's inept and corrupt Presidency. If there is a recession in 2016 or before, sure the GOP may win, but personally, I don't see a recession on the horizon until after the 2016 elections.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 24, 2009, 12:03:09 AM
Andrew Cuomo
Joe Biden
Kirsten Gillibrand
Brian Schweitzer
Hillary Clinton

In that order, from most to least likely.

Hack list.

In my opinion, this is not a hack list (even though I should have but Schweitzer and Clinton above Gillibrand).  I just think Republicans need to have a longer time than 8 years for their brand to recover, especially how many people remember If there is a recession in 2016 or before, sure the GOP may win, but personally, I don't see a recession on the horizon until after the 2016 elections.

You are going on the presumption that Obama will deal with every crisis that we face in a good, amiable way. You imply that he will fix everything. If it wasn't a hack list you would have included at least one republican.  "Bush's inept and corrupt Presidency", ok, yeah, I'm sure that everyone remembered Nixon when they elected Reagan in 1980. There are so many variables that immediately presuming democratic rule for the next 12 years is unrealistic.

To be honest, we are looking at bad figures and many problems ahead. I give Obama's chances of success (Very generous, actually) at 50-50. I maintain that he probably will be re-elected, but you can't make such predictions from here.

Even if 2010 results in somewhat of a turnaround, we may be looking at another recession in 2012 or 2013. Figures aren't looking well. He could turn it around, he could not. Either way, your assumptions show wishful thinking and some form of hackery.

You could be right in calling 2016 for the Democrats. However, you imply that it seems assured with your list.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on December 24, 2009, 12:22:26 AM
Is Gillibrand really that impressive, or are people just mentioning her because she's a female Dem. from New York state?  I have to admit, of the little I've seen of her, I haven't been terribly wowed.  Amy Klobuchar seems more articulate, from what I've seen of her.  I agree that there's a good chance that the Dems would want to go with a woman in 2016, but if Clinton doesn't run, would Gillibrand really be the best they could come up with?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 24, 2009, 01:19:24 PM
Is Gillibrand really that impressive, or are people just mentioning her because she's a female Dem. from New York state?  I have to admit, of the little I've seen of her, I haven't been terribly wowed.  Amy Klobuchar seems more articulate, from what I've seen of her.  I agree that there's a good chance that the Dems would want to go with a woman in 2016, but if Clinton doesn't run, would Gillibrand really be the best they could come up with?


If neither Hillary nor Biden runs- which seems unlikely- 2016 on the D side may revolve around female candidates filling the vacuum of Hillary's political exit and progressive candidates wooing a base disappointed in Obama.  Perhaps Coakley will emerge as both.


He basically hit the nail on the head. I think, falsely, that much of this is left over from when Caroline Kennedy was going to be appointed. I remember talk of Kennedy in 2016, or such nonsense.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: CatoMinor on December 24, 2009, 11:11:44 PM
Mark Warner
ew...Mitt Romney
Gary Johnson
Andrew Cuomo
Martha Coakley


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on January 09, 2010, 03:54:52 PM
Mark Warner
ew...Mitt Romney
Gary Johnson
Martha Coakley
Andrew Cuomo


I don't think Warner will ever run for President. I don't think he has what it takes.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: JSojourner on January 14, 2010, 07:32:44 PM
Is Gillibrand really that impressive, or are people just mentioning her because she's a female Dem. from New York state?  I have to admit, of the little I've seen of her, I haven't been terribly wowed.  Amy Klobuchar seems more articulate, from what I've seen of her.  I agree that there's a good chance that the Dems would want to go with a woman in 2016, but if Clinton doesn't run, would Gillibrand really be the best they could come up with?


Klobuchar seems to have some heft on policy matters.  Not unlike Barbara Mikulski, except she doesn't remind you of grandma. Personally, I'd love to see Klobuchar advance.

Hillary Clinton remains the leading light among Democratic women...not necessarily because she's "all that", but she's the most prominent.

Like you, I am pretty uninformed about Gillibrand. I'm not doing as good a job as I should when it comes to tracking governors, either.  In either party.  So far, I've admired Republican Jodi Rell of all the GOP women. But moderates don't win Republican primaries without the requisite "come to Jesus" moment on gays and abortion.  Rell strikes me as very unlikely to undergo such a transformation.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Derek on February 06, 2010, 01:07:24 AM
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Sarah Palin
David Petraeus
Hillary Clinton


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 15, 2010, 05:07:40 PM
Mitt Romney (2012)
Joe Biden (Anytime)
David Petraeus (2016)
John Thune (2012 & 2016)
Andrew Cuomo (2016)



ROFL



Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 15, 2010, 06:02:45 PM
Disagree about Romney, Petraeus, and Thune. Agree about Biden and Cuomo. And in JBrase's defense, many people back then thought Coakley would easily win and that she was Presidential material.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Anthony on February 15, 2010, 06:59:27 PM
1. Some random Republican who very few people know about at the moment. (2016)
2. Joe Biden (2016)
3. Mike Huckabee (2012)
4. Mitt Romney (2012)
5. Hillary Clinton (2016)

Most likely, the next president will be a Republican in 2016, after people get tired of having a Democrat in the White House for two terms. Though it's too soon to say who that is at the moment.

By the way, I'm new to this forum. Hello.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 15, 2010, 08:55:51 PM
1. Some random Republican who very few people know about at the moment. (2016)
2. Joe Biden (2016)
3. Mike Huckabee (2012)
4. Mitt Romney (2012)
5. Hillary Clinton (2016)

Most likely, the next president will be a Republican in 2016, after people get tired of having a Democrat in the White House for two terms. Though it's too soon to say who that is at the moment.

By the way, I'm new to this forum. Hello.

Welcome to the Forum!!!!!!!!!

BTW, just to express my honest opinions, I think Huckabee and Romney will never become President.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Anthony on February 15, 2010, 09:05:45 PM
I hope you're right about Huckabee or Romney not becoming president. But if Obama's approval numbers aren't great, then I fear that these two are the most likely to win the Republican nomination, and therefore, would end up winning the general election.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 15, 2010, 09:09:02 PM
I hope you're right about Huckabee or Romney not becoming president. But if Obama's approval numbers aren't great, then I fear that these two are the most likely to win the Republican nomination, and therefore, would end up winning the general election.

Even though I like most of Huckabee's economic views, I think that many people would consider him too religious and his social views too extreme for them to vote for him (unless the economy was in a Second Great Depression). As for Romney, he could win if the economy is in very bad shape, but I see the economy recovering in 2012, even if unemployment will remain relatively high.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: milhouse24 on February 17, 2010, 01:40:16 PM
Cuomo will def run, especially if he is elected NYS governor.  He won't flip-flop like his father (that supreme court nomination is still available, lol). 

Hillary will probably give it another shot.

Warner would be in a good position after serving one term in the senate and one term as governor. 

Jeb would like to run.

Thune would be able to get the votes.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 17, 2010, 09:47:55 PM
Cuomo will def run, especially if he is elected NYS governor.  He won't flip-flop like his father (that supreme court nomination is still available, lol). 

Hillary will probably give it another shot.

Warner would be in a good position after serving one term in the senate and one term as governor. 

Jeb would like to run.

Thune would be able to get the votes.

I doubt Jeb would run, since many people will still remember his brother's Presidency in 2016. Also, I don't think Cuomo and Warner will run if Hillary runs--but they certainly could if Hillary doesn't run.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: milhouse24 on February 17, 2010, 11:09:26 PM
Cuomo will def run, especially if he is elected NYS governor.  He won't flip-flop like his father (that supreme court nomination is still available, lol). 

Hillary will probably give it another shot.

Warner would be in a good position after serving one term in the senate and one term as governor. 

Jeb would like to run.

Thune would be able to get the votes.

I doubt Jeb would run, since many people will still remember his brother's Presidency in 2016. Also, I don't think Cuomo and Warner will run if Hillary runs--but they certainly could if Hillary doesn't run.

GWB won re-election, so there are still plenty of Bush voters out there, specifically in Florida, Ohio, NC, and Virginia.  Besides Jeb is not a pro-war vocalist.  If he stays true to his steady calm governorship, that would be reason enough for voters to like him.  After mid-terms 2010, if the country votes anti-Dem, Jeb is all-in.

Cuomo and Warner should run if they want to be considered as a potential VP.  I don't think people will remember Hillary in 8 years.  There would be some mid-western or southern candidate that would outmaneuver her in the primaries.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 17, 2010, 11:15:28 PM
Cuomo will def run, especially if he is elected NYS governor.  He won't flip-flop like his father (that supreme court nomination is still available, lol). 

Hillary will probably give it another shot.

Warner would be in a good position after serving one term in the senate and one term as governor. 

Jeb would like to run.

Thune would be able to get the votes.

I doubt Jeb would run, since many people will still remember his brother's Presidency in 2016. Also, I don't think Cuomo and Warner will run if Hillary runs--but they certainly could if Hillary doesn't run.

GWB won re-election, so there are still plenty of Bush voters out there, specifically in Florida, Ohio, NC, and Virginia.  Besides Jeb is not a pro-war vocalist.  If he stays true to his steady calm governorship, that would be reason enough for voters to like him.  After mid-terms 2010, if the country votes anti-Dem, Jeb is all-in.

Cuomo and Warner should run if they want to be considered as a potential VP.  I don't think people will remember Hillary in 8 years.  There would be some mid-western or southern candidate that would outmaneuver her in the primaries.

Bush Jr. was much more popular in 2004 than in 2008. Now people blame win (and many will continue to blame him for some time) for the current financial crisis and Great Recession. Jeb would be too close to GWB to win the GOP nomination unless the GOP field was really bad. Also, most Hillary supporters will still support and remember her in 8 years if she decides to run, thus my reasoning for saying Cuomo and Warner will now run to oppose her. Besides, many people still have fond memories of her husband's Presidency and she is more charismatic than both Cuomo and Warner.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: milhouse24 on February 17, 2010, 11:45:46 PM
Cuomo will def run, especially if he is elected NYS governor.  He won't flip-flop like his father (that supreme court nomination is still available, lol).  

Hillary will probably give it another shot.

Warner would be in a good position after serving one term in the senate and one term as governor.  

Jeb would like to run.

Thune would be able to get the votes.

I doubt Jeb would run, since many people will still remember his brother's Presidency in 2016. Also, I don't think Cuomo and Warner will run if Hillary runs--but they certainly could if Hillary doesn't run.

GWB won re-election, so there are still plenty of Bush voters out there, specifically in Florida, Ohio, NC, and Virginia.  Besides Jeb is not a pro-war vocalist.  If he stays true to his steady calm governorship, that would be reason enough for voters to like him.  After mid-terms 2010, if the country votes anti-Dem, Jeb is all-in.

Cuomo and Warner should run if they want to be considered as a potential VP.  I don't think people will remember Hillary in 8 years.  There would be some mid-western or southern candidate that would outmaneuver her in the primaries.

Bush Jr. was much more popular in 2004 than in 2008. Now people blame win (and many will continue to blame him for some time) for the current financial crisis and Great Recession. Jeb would be too close to GWB to win the GOP nomination unless the GOP field was really bad. Also, most Hillary supporters will still support and remember her in 8 years if she decides to run, thus my reasoning for saying Cuomo and Warner will now run to oppose her. Besides, many people still have fond memories of her husband's Presidency and she is more charismatic than both Cuomo and Warner.

I don't think Jeb will be associated with the Iraq War, specifically with draw-down.  Jeb's a competent guy and is far more astute on economic matters than GWB ever pretended to be.  I think Obama will get blamed if the economy continues to falter.  Besides Bill Clinton de-regulated Wall Street, so it wasn't entirely Dubya's fault.

The GOP field is really that bad - Romney, Palin, Giuliani, Gingrich, Huckabee, all terrible.  Thune and Barbour have a slightly better chance.  Hillary is fairly charismatic and compelling, but Cuomo and Warner would also be able to establish a strong volunteer group in NH and SC, respectively.  Bayh would be competitive in Iowa.  16 years is a long time, but Reagan kept fighting and eventually won!

Of course, Hillary could promise Bayh the VP spot (again) for leaving the race, same for Warner.  Cuomo wants to run and he should, he wouldn't be her VP pick anyways.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 18, 2010, 02:17:55 AM
Also, most Hillary supporters will still support and remember her in 8 years if she decides to run, thus my reasoning for saying Cuomo and Warner will now run to oppose her. Besides, many people still have fond memories of her husband's Presidency and she is more charismatic than both Cuomo and Warner.

So what, you expect HRC to run unopposed in the 2016 primaries or something?  Why would the field empty out for her any more than it did in 2008?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 18, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
Also, most Hillary supporters will still support and remember her in 8 years if she decides to run, thus my reasoning for saying Cuomo and Warner will now run to oppose her. Besides, many people still have fond memories of her husband's Presidency and she is more charismatic than both Cuomo and Warner.

So what, you expect HRC to run unopposed in the 2016 primaries or something?  Why would the field empty out for her any more than it did in 2008?


I would not expect Hillary to run unpposed in 2016, if she would decide to run. But I don't think that she will face any serious opposition in the primaries if she runs unless Obama is really unpopular. In 2008, the only serious opponent that she had was Obama--all of the other candidates were very weak and she would have easily crushed them all.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: milhouse24 on February 19, 2010, 01:58:58 PM
Also, most Hillary supporters will still support and remember her in 8 years if she decides to run, thus my reasoning for saying Cuomo and Warner will now run to oppose her. Besides, many people still have fond memories of her husband's Presidency and she is more charismatic than both Cuomo and Warner.

So what, you expect HRC to run unopposed in the 2016 primaries or something?  Why would the field empty out for her any more than it did in 2008?


I would not expect Hillary to run unpposed in 2016, if she would decide to run. But I don't think that she will face any serious opposition in the primaries if she runs unless Obama is really unpopular. In 2008, the only serious opponent that she had was Obama--all of the other candidates were very weak and she would have easily crushed them all.

I think both Warner and Cuomo could mount a serious challenge.  Cuomo would challenge in NH, and Warner in both Iowa and SC.  I'm sure there would be nostalgia for Hillary, but I think Warner and Cuomo could come off as competent and more of an executive and leader. 

For all of Hillary's success, she's never had an executive role, and I think some voters would see this as a weakness because there's no history of what she would do if she had "to take that 3 am call, and handle a crisis" but the other 2 would have been governors and capable leaders. 


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 19, 2010, 08:06:32 PM
Also, most Hillary supporters will still support and remember her in 8 years if she decides to run, thus my reasoning for saying Cuomo and Warner will now run to oppose her. Besides, many people still have fond memories of her husband's Presidency and she is more charismatic than both Cuomo and Warner.

So what, you expect HRC to run unopposed in the 2016 primaries or something?  Why would the field empty out for her any more than it did in 2008?


I would not expect Hillary to run unpposed in 2016, if she would decide to run. But I don't think that she will face any serious opposition in the primaries if she runs unless Obama is really unpopular. In 2008, the only serious opponent that she had was Obama--all of the other candidates were very weak and she would have easily crushed them all.

I think both Warner and Cuomo could mount a serious challenge.  Cuomo would challenge in NH, and Warner in both Iowa and SC.  I'm sure there would be nostalgia for Hillary, but I think Warner and Cuomo could come off as competent and more of an executive and leader. 

For all of Hillary's success, she's never had an executive role, and I think some voters would see this as a weakness because there's no history of what she would do if she had "to take that 3 am call, and handle a crisis" but the other 2 would have been governors and capable leaders. 

Keep on dreaming. No offense, but Hillary would easily win the nomination if she decided to run unless Obama became very unpopular. She already managed to win 18 million votes and would have likely won the nomination and Presidency had Obama not run. Cuomo and Warner are not even that well known on the national stage yet. Don't get me wrong--I don't want Hillary to run for President ever again.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Derek on February 21, 2010, 01:43:30 AM
Jeb Bush will never be able to run for president and neither will another Bush for about 30 years. Does anyone think that Mike Huckabee will not be running in 2012. I have this feeling he won't run for some reason.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 21, 2010, 02:21:00 AM
Does anyone think that Mike Huckabee will not be running in 2012. I have this feeling he won't run for some reason.

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Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 23, 2010, 08:39:49 PM
Does anyone think that Mike Huckabee will not be running in 2012. I have this feeling he won't run for some reason.

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Is that the guy he pardoned who shot some people in Washington State recently?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: ajc0918 on February 23, 2010, 08:43:02 PM


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on February 23, 2010, 08:44:55 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

However, almost everyone thought she would win her Senate race in December.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: James Rivington on February 24, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
People here are giving that privileged sonovabitch Romney way too much credit.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on June 27, 2010, 08:20:18 PM
1. Andrew Cuomo
2. Brian Schweitzer
3. John Thune
4. Joe Biden
5. Hillary Clinton


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: feeblepizza on June 29, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on June 30, 2010, 05:21:57 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

lol at #1 and #2. I hope #5 never happens.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Oakvale on June 30, 2010, 05:31:02 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

Quote
Age:    12

Well, that explains that.

GTFO. Aren't there regulations against young children using internet forums?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: feeblepizza on June 30, 2010, 05:48:23 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

Quote
Age:    12

Well, that explains that.

GTFO. Aren't there regulations against young children using internet forums?

http://members.verizon.net/~vze3fs8i/air/pres2012.html


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: feeblepizza on June 30, 2010, 05:50:34 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

lol at #1 and #2. I hope #5 never happens.

http://members.verizon.net/~vze3fs8i/air/pres2012.html


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on June 30, 2010, 06:08:34 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

lol at #1 and #2. I hope #5 never happens.

http://members.verizon.net/~vze3fs8i/air/pres2012.html

Irrelevant.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: justW353 on June 30, 2010, 06:33:05 PM
In no particular order:

Mitch Daniels - (2012)
Joe Biden - (anytime)
Andrew Cuomo - (2016)
Scott Brown - (2016)
Someone we've never heard of - (2016)


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on July 09, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
Gillibrand is lame.  Andrew Cuomo would be more likely to become president, if he is elected Governor of New York (which he probably will be).


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on July 11, 2010, 02:09:11 AM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

lol at #1 and #2. I hope #5 never happens.

You don't want Biden to become president, or you don't want Obama to get shot?

I'd like to see a President Biden, far more so than President Obama, but I'm not praying for his assassination.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bo on July 11, 2010, 02:17:37 PM
1. Tim Pawlenty (2012)
2. Sarah Palin (2012 or 2016)
3. Mitt Romney (2012)
4. Hillary Clinton (2016)
5. Joe Biden (whenever Obama gets shot)

lol at #1 and #2. I hope #5 never happens.

You don't want Biden to become president, or you don't want Obama to get shot?

I'd like to see a President Biden, far more so than President Obama, but I'm not praying for his assassination.

I don't want Obama to get shot. Politically, I have no problem with a President Biden.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 05, 2012, 12:05:48 AM
*bump*

Maybe something like (in order from most likely to fifth most likely):

1) Romney
2) H. Clinton
3) Christie
4) Rubio
5) Biden


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 05, 2012, 12:21:38 AM
I'd say...

1- Biden (God forbid thru means other then election, but the one at this point with the quickest path...once again God forbid)
2- Romney
3- Hillary
4- Rubio
5- Cuomo


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on May 05, 2012, 12:28:37 AM
1) Hillary Clinton
2) Mitt Romney
3) Joe Biden
4) Chris Christie
5) Susana Martinez

Honorable Mentions

6) Brian Schweitzer
7) Marco Rubio
8) Kirsten Gillibrand
9) Jeb Bush
10) Rick Santorum


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: morgieb on May 05, 2012, 12:32:07 AM
Romney
Hillary
Christie
Rubio
Cuomo


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: LastVoter on May 05, 2012, 04:37:20 AM
I'd say...

1- Biden (God forbid thru means other then election, but the one at this point with the quickest path...once again God forbid)
2- Romney
3- Hillary
4- Rubio
5- Cuomo
Pretty much what I am thinking. Cuomo should be bumped to fourth and fifth should be another Republican/Democrat for 2016 from the deep bench both parties have.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on May 05, 2012, 10:37:03 AM
1) Mitt Romney (2012)
2) Chris Christie (2016)
3) Brian Schweitzer (2016)
4) Marco Rubio (2016)
5) Andrew Cuomo (2016)

I'd be satisfied if any of these men became President.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: NHI on May 05, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
1. Mitt Romney (2012)
2. Chris Christie (2016)
3. Hillary Clinton (2016)
4. Marco Rubio (2016)
5. Andrew Cuomo (2016)


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2012, 01:10:39 PM
1. Joe Biden: Obama dies in office at any point in time from now to January 20th, 2017. Not necessarily most likely, but the one with the easiest path.
2. Mitt Romney: Somehow he wins the 2012 election.
3. Hillary Clinton: If she runs in 2016.
4. Andrew Cuomo: If he runs in 2016.
5. Marco Rubio: If he runs in 2016, though I don't think him running is too likely.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on May 05, 2012, 01:21:06 PM
Why do people think Hillary will run again?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 05, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
1. Biden
2. Romney
3. Christie
4. Schweitzer
5. Clinton


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: ShadowRocket on May 05, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
1. Romney
2. Christie
3. Hillary
4. Cuomo
5. Biden?


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Bull Moose Base on May 05, 2012, 06:00:27 PM
Who were the perceived 5 most likely nexts as guessed from Mays of past re-election years? 

I'll go with this:

92
1.Perot
2.Clinton
3.Cuomo
4.Quayle
5.Dole
--------
96
1.Gore 
2.Dole 
3.W
4.Quayle
5.Alexander
---------
04
1.Kerry
2.Hillary
3.Rudy
4.McCain
5.Edwards
----------


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 05, 2012, 07:13:44 PM
Who were the perceived 5 most likely nexts as guessed from Mays of past re-election years? 

I'll go with this:

92
1.Perot
2.Clinton
3.Cuomo
4.Quayle
5.Dole

Ha ha, good point on Perot's polling lead as of May 1992.  I was just a geeky kid back then, who was aware of Perot's polling lead (I remember the newspaper headline, announcing that he'd taken the lead in the national polls), but wouldn't have been politically astute enough to know if this was expected to be a transient phenomenon or not.  I don't remember to what extent political experts were suggesting that it was just a fluke, and Perot's numbers would inevitably deflate, and to what extent they thought he might actually win.  I do remember that there was a lot of talk about the possibility of a deadlocked electoral college.  Anyway, I think this ranking as actually pretty good.

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96
1.Gore 
2.Dole 
3.W
4.Quayle
5.Alexander

I highly doubt Quayle would be as high as #4.  His public image was such that he was regarded as being way too dumb to ever win a national election.  And the fact that he passed on running in 1996 suggested that he knew that.  I don't think there was much expectation that he'd run in 2000.  I would put Alexander at #4, though I don't know who to put at #5.  Maybe Colin Powell.  There was buzz about him running in 1996, though he opted out in the end (supposedly because of family considerations).  Even if he was a longshot to ever run, he was so popular, that he would have had a good chance of winning if he did run.

Alternatively, I would think that it might be one of the many then-popular Rust Belt Republican governors (Edgar, Engler, Thompson, Ridge, Voinovich), though I guess none of them stood out enough from the field, so maybe you have to go back to Powell.

Quote
---------
04
1.Kerry
2.Hillary
3.Rudy
4.McCain
5.Edwards
----------

I agree with #1 and probably #2, but I did not really think that Giuliani was that likely to ever run for prez back in 2004 (or that he'd get very far if he did), because of his positions on social issues.  I would have put McCain as #3, and maybe Bill Frist as either 4 or 5, with Edwards in the remaining slot.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: morgieb on May 05, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Why do people think Hillary will run again?

Because it'll be borderline impossible for her to refuse. If she starts, she'll probably have a 50% polling lead on the opposition.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on May 05, 2012, 07:34:09 PM
And she might be the only hope for the Dems in '16 if Obama does win re-election.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 05, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
Why do people think Hillary will run again?

It's too early to believe anyone's denials:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNq-dpGqszQ


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on May 05, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
Why do people think Hillary will run again?

Because it'll be borderline impossible for her to refuse. If she starts, she'll probably have a 50% polling lead on the opposition.

I understand, but I think she's getting tired of national politics.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on May 07, 2012, 08:18:04 AM
It's hers for the taking, but she's probably not taking it.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 30, 2016, 11:02:32 PM
*bump*

No one guessed Trump.  :P


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Kingpoleon on November 30, 2016, 11:12:46 PM
1. Donald Trump
2. Mike Pence
3. Paul Ryan


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: publicunofficial on December 01, 2016, 07:41:55 PM
lol at all the Tim Pawlenty love. I forgot how much people talked him up.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Figueira on December 02, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
Donald Trump
Mike Pence
Joe Biden
Paul Ryan
Orrin Hatch


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: Figueira on December 02, 2016, 10:25:30 PM

The second poster guessed Clinton, Pence, and Romney, which are pretty impressive.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on March 27, 2017, 03:47:41 AM

True, but this thread did have this:
1. Some random Republican who very few people know about at the moment. (2016)
2. Joe Biden (2016)
3. Mike Huckabee (2012)
4. Mitt Romney (2012)
5. Hillary Clinton (2016)

Most likely, the next president will be a Republican in 2016, after people get tired of having a Democrat in the White House for two terms. Though it's too soon to say who that is at the moment.

By the way, I'm new to this forum. Hello.


Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 27, 2017, 05:26:45 AM

True, but this thread did have this:
1. Some random Republican who very few people know about at the moment. (2016)
2. Joe Biden (2016)
3. Mike Huckabee (2012)
4. Mitt Romney (2012)
5. Hillary Clinton (2016)

Most likely, the next president will be a Republican in 2016, after people get tired of having a Democrat in the White House for two terms. Though it's too soon to say who that is at the moment.

By the way, I'm new to this forum. Hello.

Except that he was pretty well known. In all of the below polls at most 12% were undecided.

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Title: Re: Five People Most Likely to be the 45th President
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on July 03, 2017, 02:20:19 PM
Brian Schwietzer
Mark Warner
Mitt Romney

That's all I can think of at this point.

holy sh*t I was a moron hahaha