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Title: Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Beet on March 07, 2004, 05:55:54 PM
You didn't really believe that, did you?

"His closest challenger -- the nationalist Sergei Glazyev -- has support from about three percent of the voters."

The polls are a lie, I tell ya! Glazyev all the way... :D


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Gustaf on March 08, 2004, 10:14:37 AM
Lol, I came close to falling off my chair when I saw that headline... :)

But it isn't really much to joke about, it's sad... :(


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Gustaf on March 08, 2004, 10:15:21 AM
Wait...who voted for Putin? Opebo or jaichind?


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Kevinstat on March 10, 2004, 09:37:57 AM
Where are the Liberal Democrats?  Just kidding :)


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: opebo on March 10, 2004, 08:29:25 PM
Wait...who voted for Putin? Opebo or jaichind?

Why would I vote for Putin?  He's anti-capitalist.


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Gustaf on March 11, 2004, 03:01:36 PM
Wait...who voted for Putin? Opebo or jaichind?

Why would I vote for Putin?  He's anti-capitalist.


He's pragmatic, so he probably likes capitalism as long as it doesn't threaten him too much. Seems like a good fascist dictator of yours to me, even though I agree that the Capitalists have been stupidly trying to challenge him instead of focusing on making money.


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: JohnFKennedy on March 12, 2004, 04:56:24 PM
who are the forum commies then? lol


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Gustaf on March 12, 2004, 05:54:07 PM
Umengo maybe...or Migrendel. Putin now has THREE votes! :o


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Siege40 on March 12, 2004, 06:25:59 PM
It's so disheartening to see the Russian people throwing away their democratic rights so hard fought over in the 1990s. Its a true shame, I hope for the best for Russia, how long did the last regime last? 75 years? Well, its not that long to wait for freedom again. Nothing against Socialism, just Autocratic rule. I am a Socialist after all.

Siege40


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Kevinstat on March 12, 2004, 09:51:51 PM
C'mon, I don't even get a courtesy online laugh?  You guys are no fun.

Until a news segment this evening, I knew hardly anything about the election campaign other than that it was going on (I apparently even didn't look at the first post and thought that the poll really had Putin was really losing, and was surprised to learn that he was way, way ahead).  Much of what I learned in the news segment was largely could be inferred anyway from what I had previously learned, that some people thought Putin was becoming autocratic but that he was portraying himself as a man of the people in order to combat it.  That the strong social welfare system still in place in Russia is helping Putin is not much of a surprise either.

Do people on this forum believe that the longer Putin remains in power, the less free the elections will become?  I'm a little concerned about that, an based on some of the comments, like the one about the Russian people "throwing away their democratic rights", it seems like others her are concerned about that as well.

Sincerely,

Kevin Lamoreau


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Siege40 on March 12, 2004, 10:11:12 PM
Sorry if my comments seem laughable, I based them on a credible source, a Canadian newspaper called the National Post. The Democratic Party of Russia, under Yeltsin lost a lot of credit with the Russian people with its high level of corruption. The story talked about how in recent years Putin had taken control of the Government Media and used it to spread his party's message.
Also he's been prosecuting critics of the government. By infringing on the rights of the people I'd consider that infringement on their democratic rights. And if they vote it could be seen as throwing them away.

Siege40


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Gustaf on March 13, 2004, 11:09:36 AM
C'mon, I don't even get a courtesy online laugh?  You guys are no fun.

Until a news segment this evening, I knew hardly anything about the election campaign other than that it was going on (I apparently even didn't look at the first post and thought that the poll really had Putin was really losing, and was surprised to learn that he was way, way ahead).  Much of what I learned in the news segment was largely could be inferred anyway from what I had previously learned, that some people thought Putin was becoming autocratic but that he was portraying himself as a man of the people in order to combat it.  That the strong social welfare system still in place in Russia is helping Putin is not much of a surprise either.

Do people on this forum believe that the longer Putin remains in power, the less free the elections will become?  I'm a little concerned about that, an based on some of the comments, like the one about the Russian people "throwing away their democratic rights", it seems like others her are concerned about that as well.

Sincerely,

Kevin Lamoreau

Ha. Ha. :)

It's just that the old Liberal Democrat joke had been told before...and I don't think we usually do online laughs... ;)

I do think that Putin is infringing Russian civil liberties and undermning their democracy, but I have no idea how far it will go.


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Siege40 on March 13, 2004, 11:10:36 AM
My point exactly Gustaf.

Siege40


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 14, 2004, 02:09:09 PM
Exit polls give Putin 69% of the vote


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Siege40 on March 14, 2004, 02:14:14 PM
Russian Democracy, sigh, I'm such a dreamer...

Siege40


Title: Re:Moscow Times Poll: Glazyev beats Putin
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 14, 2004, 02:14:58 PM
He probably fiddled the numbers to make them smaller...