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Title: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 23, 2009, 04:50:07 PM
Post maps if you wish.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Rowan on December 23, 2009, 04:53:12 PM
Phil and it wouldn't even be close.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 23, 2009, 04:56:12 PM
Phil would easily win the Republican primary, based off politics, mainly.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: MasterJedi on December 23, 2009, 05:05:03 PM
Phil/Phil, Hamilton wouldn't even come close.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:05:22 PM
I would pull it out in the end.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 23, 2009, 05:07:46 PM

Like Deeds?


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
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Blue- Hamilton
Red- Phil


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 23, 2009, 05:12:27 PM

You wouldn't win Texas. There aren't enough Republican Hispanics to control the GOP Primary and the rest would all be Keystone's type of voter.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:15:55 PM

You wouldn't win Texas. There aren't enough Republican Hispanics to control the GOP Primary and the rest would all be Keystone's type of voter.

Texas Republicans would support the anti-illegal immigrant candidate and the sane candidate. Though I think Texas would be close, nothing west of it would even be contested by Phil.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 23, 2009, 05:22:12 PM
Trying to follow primary schedule...

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Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 23, 2009, 05:24:29 PM
Keystone would have an appeal to the GOP base unlike a dude, who during last months was once a progressive, a conservative, a libertarian... take your pick.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 23, 2009, 05:24:45 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:29:34 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

If Pat McCrory could get nominated by the NC GOP, I'm sure I could. The NC GOP is getting less conservative. A lot of the conservatives are actually registered Democrats there.

I would easily win Idaho and Utah and Wyoming and Montana. Not as sure on the Dakotas.

WA and AZ are already in the bag for me, and I would win Minnesota fairly easily as well.

Phil would only win in the radical and racist states mostly located in the Deep South. He would certainly win the populist vote, but I would win among urban and suburban Republicans, middle class, upper-middle class, and wealthy Republicans, business owners, as well as rural libertarian-esque Republicans in the Midwest. I would easily raise more money, I would easily win the votes from moderates and libertarian Republicans, and Independents in states like New Hampshire. My campaign's organization would be stronger, allowing me to do better in caucues (the real reason Romney won, not his "conservatism").


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 23, 2009, 05:36:00 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:39:51 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 23, 2009, 05:40:47 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:41:35 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?

You love war and intervention.

Bob Taft turns in his grave due to your display name.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 23, 2009, 05:47:10 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?

You love war and intervention.

Bob Taft turns in his grave due to your display name.

*facepalm*

Nobody "loves war".

Returning to my original point, I'm not aware that Romney is an isolationist. It wouldn't surprise me if he were one, but that would not make him a conservative. Further, conservatism != isolationism.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:54:47 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?

You love war and intervention.

Bob Taft turns in his grave due to your display name.

*facepalm*

Nobody "loves war".

Returning to my original point, I'm not aware that Romney is an isolationist. It wouldn't surprise me if he were one, but that would not make him a conservative. Further, conservatism != isolationism.

Incorrect. Isolationism is a pillar of conservative thought.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 23, 2009, 05:57:22 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?

You love war and intervention.

Bob Taft turns in his grave due to your display name.

*facepalm*

Nobody "loves war".

Returning to my original point, I'm not aware that Romney is an isolationist. It wouldn't surprise me if he were one, but that would not make him a conservative. Further, conservatism != isolationism.

Incorrect. Isolationism is a pillar of conservative thought.

No, and even assuming for now that it is, that hardly makes Romney a conservative overall. In other words, conservatism still is not the same thing as isolationism; isolationism is at best only a part of conservative thought.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?

You love war and intervention.

Bob Taft turns in his grave due to your display name.

*facepalm*

Nobody "loves war".

Returning to my original point, I'm not aware that Romney is an isolationist. It wouldn't surprise me if he were one, but that would not make him a conservative. Further, conservatism != isolationism.

Incorrect. Isolationism is a pillar of conservative thought.

No, and even assuming for now that it is, that hardly makes Romney a conservative overall.

Who cares whether Romney is a cosnervative?

I would crush Phil in a primary battle.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 23, 2009, 05:59:48 PM
Hamilton trying to wear his faux coat of Libertarianism has now made him a less effective spokesman for Romney.



Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 23, 2009, 06:00:40 PM
Hamilton trying to wear his faux coat of Libertarianism has now made him a less effective spokesman for Romney.



When have I ever claimed to be a libertarian? Not once have I associated myself with such an ideology.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 23, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
Also you wouldn't win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, the plains states, Minnestota has a caucus system that would make it easy for a conservative win see Romney winning it in 2008. Wisconsin would vote the same as MN and MI. The GOP state parties in both Washington and Arizona are hella Conservative. You would not win North Carolina, or any other outer or inner Souther State except Florida, and you might get close in VA.

Romney is no conservative.

You're no conservative.

How so?

You love war and intervention.

Bob Taft turns in his grave due to your display name.

*facepalm*

Nobody "loves war".

Returning to my original point, I'm not aware that Romney is an isolationist. It wouldn't surprise me if he were one, but that would not make him a conservative. Further, conservatism != isolationism.

Incorrect. Isolationism is a pillar of conservative thought.

No, and even assuming for now that it is, that hardly makes Romney a conservative overall.

Who cares whether Romney is a cosnervative?

I would crush Phil in a primary battle.

lol. In a party dominated by Southerners which you have stated are ignorant and stupid, you think you would do well enough to get close.

ROTFLOL.


Admit it, Phil would wipe your ass of the floor.

Hamilton trying to wear his faux coat of Libertarianism has now made him a less effective spokesman for Romney.



When have I ever claimed to be a libertarian? Not once have I associated myself with such an ideology.

I never associated myself with any particular ideology except conservatism in its most general forms yet that doesn't stop you from calling me a populist unfairly.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: MasterJedi on December 23, 2009, 07:29:28 PM

That's what she said.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Eraserhead on December 23, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
Hamilton


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 23, 2009, 08:42:12 PM
Hamilton/Hamilton


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on December 23, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
Hamilton/Phil


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Vepres on December 23, 2009, 10:09:11 PM
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Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 23, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
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Alexander Hamilton
Keystone Phil


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Mint on December 23, 2009, 11:04:09 PM
Hamilton's people imply Phil is homosexual through robocalls, he wins the primaries and the election.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 24, 2009, 01:16:49 AM
Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 24, 2009, 02:01:03 PM
Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.

Ask McCain who won South Carolina in 2008 and become the front runner, and who lost SC in 2000 and couldn't recover his momentum.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 24, 2009, 02:04:06 PM
Phil/Phil.

Hamilton, the base would never warm to you with your current politics. You would be Dead on Arrival.



Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2009, 02:14:54 PM
Phil's a pimp. I dedicate this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvxwjMdcLjo) to him.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 24, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.

Ask McCain who won South Carolina in 2008 and become the front runner, and who lost SC in 2000 and couldn't recover his momentum.

I could win SC in an OPEN PRIMARY, dumbass.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 24, 2009, 04:37:58 PM
Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.

Ask McCain who won South Carolina in 2008 and become the front runner, and who lost SC in 2000 and couldn't recover his momentum.

I could win SC in an OPEN PRIMARY, dumbass.

Yes, you fit perfectly: a guy who in few months claimed to be progressive, conservative or libertarian, when only needed to win a support.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 24, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.

Ask McCain who won South Carolina in 2008 and become the front runner, and who lost SC in 2000 and couldn't recover his momentum.

I could win SC in an OPEN PRIMARY, dumbass.

Yes, you fit perfectly: a guy who in few months claimed to be progressive, conservative or libertarian, when only needed to win a support.

When did I claim to be a libertarian?

And progressivsm and conservatism are compatible.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Mint on December 24, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
In the traditional sense of those terms yes. People are just ignorant.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 24, 2009, 07:04:35 PM
In the traditional sense of those terms yes. People are just ignorant.

Remember we are talking about South Carolina Primary voters. Ignorant or not, it doesn't change the fact that shammy would need to win here and he wouldn't come close to doing so. Even McCain was a Military Veteran and had some things going for him which Hamilton has none of. He would lose the Evans and the Military vets. That leaves the Urban/surburban fiscally conservative social moderates(Duke type people), though growing they still can't command enough voting power to win a primary.


Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.

Ask McCain who won South Carolina in 2008 and become the front runner, and who lost SC in 2000 and couldn't recover his momentum.

I could win SC in an OPEN PRIMARY, dumbass.

Independents make up a small amount of the electorate. Far below 50% and I will gurrantee that a large portion of them are born again evangelicals and they would want nothing to do with you considering you are atheist and Phil is Roman Catholic. That would make all the difference.

Nice Try.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 24, 2009, 07:14:51 PM
I'm Catholic, idiot.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 24, 2009, 08:01:17 PM

According to my guessing, you are a lapsed one and an atheist.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on December 24, 2009, 10:12:22 PM


Thats not what you told Straha when you were trying so hard not to get your head handed to you. lol


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 24, 2009, 11:32:59 PM
In the traditional sense of those terms yes. People are just ignorant.

Remember we are talking about South Carolina Primary voters. Ignorant or not, it doesn't change the fact that shammy would need to win here and he wouldn't come close to doing so. Even McCain was a Military Veteran and had some things going for him which Hamilton has none of. He would lose the Evans and the Military vets. That leaves the Urban/surburban fiscally conservative social moderates(Duke type people), though growing they still can't command enough voting power to win a primary.


Yankee, the South is irrelevant to winning the primary. Ask Huckabee.

Ask McCain who won South Carolina in 2008 and become the front runner, and who lost SC in 2000 and couldn't recover his momentum.

I could win SC in an OPEN PRIMARY, dumbass.

Independents make up a small amount of the electorate. Far below 50% and I will gurrantee that a large portion of them are born again evangelicals and they would want nothing to do with you considering you are atheist and Phil is Roman Catholic. That would make all the difference.

Nice Try.

South Carolina was won in 2008 by John McCain, who was hardly the evangelicals' top choice for the nomination. An infinitely more appealing candidate like Alexander Hamilton could just as easily swing independent voters and even some Dems to deliver victory in SC.


And I'm at least one Catholic who would have no problem voting for Hamilton.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 25, 2009, 12:10:55 AM


Thats not what you told Straha when you were trying so hard not to get your head handed to you. lol

I'm a cultural Catholic and identify as one on all my official records.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on December 25, 2009, 12:19:30 AM
i'm a non-denominational, though strongly spiritual christian who'd vote for an Atheist if he shared my political convictions.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Rowan on December 25, 2009, 11:37:41 AM
Calling yourself a progressive will get you NOWHERE in a Republican primary.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 25, 2009, 11:38:46 AM
Calling yourself a progressive will get you NOWHERE in a Republican primary.
Open primaries + any primaries/caucuses in the Northeast/ West Coast would not have such a problem with that.


Title: Re: Republican Primary - Keystone Phil versus Alexander Hamilton
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 25, 2009, 11:39:11 AM
Calling yourself a progressive will get you NOWHERE in a Republican primary.

Against a gay? Most Repulicans would avoid the gay and vote for the progressive.