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Title: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: Tender Branson on April 11, 2010, 02:26:37 AM
Joe Heck (R): 49%
Dina Titus (D): 44%

http://www.lvrj.com/hottopics/politics/polls/april_2010_4_polls.html


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: Rowan on April 11, 2010, 08:54:54 AM
What the Heck!


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: ajc0918 on April 11, 2010, 09:18:11 AM


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: Umengus on April 11, 2010, 11:17:59 AM
a swing by 10 compared to 2008...


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 11, 2010, 03:18:17 PM
If Titus loses, she'll get the new seat in 2012. If Heck loses, he'll get the new seat in 2012. Playing around with Dave's Redistricting App has convinced me a 2D/2R delegation after 2012 is basically inevitable.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on April 11, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
Especially since the most likely outcome of 2010 is a Republican Governor and a Democratic legislature. I doubt the map could be drawn 3-1 in either way without making two of the seats really vulnerable.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 11, 2010, 03:38:03 PM
Actually it looks like we'll end up with a Reno area district, a north Las Vegas district, south Las Vegas district and everywhere else district. The everywhere else district is safe GOP, the Las Vegas ones are safe Dem. The Reno one is probably safe for Heller, but could flip in a good Dem year or if he retires. It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: The Age Wave on April 11, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.

In 2012, there will only be 1 Obama district, so what is your point?


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: HappyWarrior on April 11, 2010, 05:09:57 PM
If Titus loses, she'll get the new seat in 2012. If Heck loses, he'll get the new seat in 2012. Playing around with Dave's Redistricting App has convinced me a 2D/2R delegation after 2012 is basically inevitable.

Where is that?


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 11, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.

In 2012, there will only be 1 Obama district, so what is your point?

Kind of jumping a bit ahead aren't you? And I don't see how you could draw less than 2 Obama districts either, unless they'd sliced up Vegas into thin strips running across rural Nevada. Not happening.

If Titus loses, she'll get the new seat in 2012. If Heck loses, he'll get the new seat in 2012. Playing around with Dave's Redistricting App has convinced me a 2D/2R delegation after 2012 is basically inevitable.

Where is that?

http://gardow.com/davebradlee/redistricting/davesredistrictingapp.aspx


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: Verily on April 11, 2010, 08:28:44 PM
Actually it looks like we'll end up with a Reno area district, a north Las Vegas district, south Las Vegas district and everywhere else district. The everywhere else district is safe GOP, the Las Vegas ones are safe Dem. The Reno one is probably safe for Heller, but could flip in a good Dem year or if he retires. It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.

Not possible. There aren't enough people in the Reno/Carson City area to make a district. There will be three Vegas districts (one including some empty territory) and a Reno-Elko-empty areas district. Two of the Vegas districts will be Democratic, one (really the Henderson district) will be Republican, and the Everywhere-else district will be Republican but not totally unwinnable for the Democrats.

There need to be five districts before the Reno area gets its own district.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: The Age Wave on April 11, 2010, 08:44:25 PM
It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.

In 2012, there will only be 1 Obama district, so what is your point?

Kind of jumping a bit ahead aren't you? And I don't see how you could draw less than 2 Obama districts either, unless they'd sliced up Vegas into thin strips running across rural Nevada. Not happening.


Obama will only win 1 district in 2012.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: Verily on April 11, 2010, 08:53:31 PM
It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.

In 2012, there will only be 1 Obama district, so what is your point?

Kind of jumping a bit ahead aren't you? And I don't see how you could draw less than 2 Obama districts either, unless they'd sliced up Vegas into thin strips running across rural Nevada. Not happening.


Obama will only win 1 district in 2012.

Doubt that, too. There will be two minority-majority districts in Nevada come 2012.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 11, 2010, 09:10:43 PM
By Reno area I meant totally dominated by Reno. There would be some rural counties, but all the population would be concentrated in Washoe county and Carson City.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: War on Want on April 11, 2010, 09:32:19 PM
It's probably impossible without very tricky gerrymandering to not draw 3 Obama districts.

In 2012, there will only be 1 Obama district, so what is your point?

Kind of jumping a bit ahead aren't you? And I don't see how you could draw less than 2 Obama districts either, unless they'd sliced up Vegas into thin strips running across rural Nevada. Not happening.

Obama will only win 1 district in 2012.
You're making the assumption that Obama would lose in a landslide, which is stupid.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 11, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
Nevada after 2012 will probably look something like this:

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Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: Joe Republic on April 14, 2010, 05:41:11 AM
An east-west split across Vegas is far likelier than north-south.  People usually consider the I-15 as the border between the 'east side' and 'west side' of the city.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: cinyc on April 14, 2010, 06:02:05 PM

Did you use the new population estimates?  I think the Reno district is going to have to extend to Elko or down to Pahrump in order to take in enough residents.  Any district that includes the rest of the state will be dominated by Vegas-area suburbs/exurbs like Henderson, Boulder City and (if not put in the Reno district) Pahrump, if not Las Vegas or North Las Vegas itself.  About 85% of that district will probably end up being in Clark County no matter what.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 15, 2010, 01:22:32 AM
An east-west split across Vegas is far likelier than north-south.  People usually consider the I-15 as the border between the 'east side' and 'west side' of the city.

Which is actually what my map ended up being.


Did you use the new population estimates?

Yes.


Title: Re: NV-03/Mason-Dixon: Heck (R) beats Rep. Titus (D) by 5
Post by: cinyc on April 15, 2010, 02:05:44 AM

Are you sure?  I've been trying to recreate your Reno district and been ending up about 60,000 votes short.  Clark County has been growing a lot faster than the Reno area.