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Title: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 09:37:41 PM Where did this delusion of his come from?
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 09:39:04 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt_Out
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 09:39:45 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt_Out "Butt Out" presents an anti-smoking message, while simultaneously lampooning the anti-smoking lobby. Sounds like it doesn't glorify or promote smoking. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Sewer on April 23, 2010, 09:44:42 PM He's BRTD, thats why.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 09:45:22 PM He's BRTD, thats why. He has no right to obfuscate the truth. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Free Palestine on April 23, 2010, 09:46:20 PM He's BRTD, thats why. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 23, 2010, 09:47:11 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt_Out That's doesn't really mean glorifing of tobacco. Rather making a fun of anti-tobbaco fanaticism. Analysys ability fail. Again. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Joe Republic on April 23, 2010, 09:50:26 PM You mean to say that BRTD formed an extremely strong opinion of something that he doesn't really understand or have any experience of? I am SHOCKED.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 09:51:58 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it?
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 09:53:18 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it? Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 09:54:59 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it? Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it. I've not seen that on DU, but either way, why would you waste memory on what you consider right-wing propaganda? Did you find any of it humorous? What shows do you prefer? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 09:56:35 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it? Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it. I've not seen that on DU, but either way, why would you waste memory on right-wing propaganda? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination I also once read an Ann Coulter book for largely the same reason. Granted I enjoyed that more due to the fact that it was at least funny, albeit unintentionally, while South Park tries to be funny yet fails miserably. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 09:57:50 PM I will say this though: There have been a few South Park episodes I've liked. Namely the ones making fun of Catholics, Scientologists and Mormons. I'd include the one making fun of Muslims and Mohammad too if it didn't also make fun of Family Guy.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on April 23, 2010, 09:58:23 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it? Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it. I've not seen that on DU, but either way, why would you waste memory on what you consider right-wing propaganda? Did you find any of it humorous? What shows do you prefer? Not like BRTD has anything better to do. He can't afford to stay in the strip clubs 24/7. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 09:59:16 PM Why do you care if someone makes fun of Family Guy, though? Do you own stock in it?
I might suggest Glenn Beck, if you are into watching and reading horrible thing because you find them humorous. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 10:00:30 PM Why do you care if someone makes fun of Family Guy, though? Do you own stock in it? I might suggest Glenn Beck, if you are into watching and reading horrible thing because you find them humorous. I don't like it when people make fun of stuff I like. I actually find Beck rather dull, though people riffing on him and owning him is quite funny usually. Much like Bill O'Reilly, he's boring instead of hilarious like Coulter, but Al Franken's ownage of him in his book was much funnier than even Coulter's stuff. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Eraserhead on April 23, 2010, 10:00:45 PM His opinions on South Park are quite horrible, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:01:28 PM Why do you care if someone makes fun of Family Guy, though? Do you own stock in it? I might suggest Glenn Beck, if you are into watching and reading horrible thing because you find them humorous. I don't like it when people make fun of stuff I like. I actually find Beck rather dull, though people riffing on him and owning him is quite funny usually. Much like Bill O'Reilly, he's boring instead of hilarious like Coulter, but Al Franken's ownage of him in his book was much funnier than even Coulter's stuff. Am I safe in assuming you hate Catholics and Mormons, then? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 10:02:01 PM His opinions on South Park are quite horrible, I'm afraid. I liked it when I was in 8th grade. Then I developed taste. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:02:41 PM 8th grade was the good old days though.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 10:02:58 PM Why do you care if someone makes fun of Family Guy, though? Do you own stock in it? I might suggest Glenn Beck, if you are into watching and reading horrible thing because you find them humorous. I don't like it when people make fun of stuff I like. I actually find Beck rather dull, though people riffing on him and owning him is quite funny usually. Much like Bill O'Reilly, he's boring instead of hilarious like Coulter, but Al Franken's ownage of him in his book was much funnier than even Coulter's stuff. Am I safe in assuming you hate Catholics and Mormons, then? No. I do hate who those episodes skewered specifically though. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:03:46 PM BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco?
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: ○∙◄☻Ątπ[╪AV┼cVę└ on April 23, 2010, 10:04:34 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it? Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it. I've not seen that on DU, but either way, why would you waste memory on what you consider right-wing propaganda? Did you find any of it humorous? What shows do you prefer? Not like BRTD has anything better to do. He can't afford to stay in the strip clubs 24/7. He could if he could get a strip club applet approved by Apple. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Eraserhead on April 23, 2010, 10:05:06 PM His opinions on South Park are quite horrible, I'm afraid. I liked it when I was in 8th grade. Then I developed taste. I'm not so sure. You still like Family Guy. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 10:05:16 PM BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco? All of it. I find it disgusting. I was quite overjoyed when Minnesota banned it in public and I no longer have to return from bars with my clothes smelling disgusting. I'm quite glad that at the house I lived in in the first half of 2008, my roommates let people smoke weed anywhere, but anyone smoking cigarettes had to go the garage or outside. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 23, 2010, 10:05:25 PM Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it? Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it. I've not seen that on DU, but either way, why would you waste memory on right-wing propaganda? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination I also once read an Ann Coulter book for largely the same reason. Granted I enjoyed that more due to the fact that it was at least funny, albeit unintentionally, while South Park tries to be funny yet fails miserably. Actually South Park used to be funny, before failed miserably. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:05:42 PM His opinions on South Park are quite horrible, I'm afraid. I liked it when I was in 8th grade. Then I developed taste. I'm not so sure. You still like Family Guy. Family Guy isn't even funny. Plus all the musical breaks are irritating as hell. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:06:35 PM BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco? All of it. I find it disgusting. I was quite overjoyed when Minnesota banned it in public and I no longer have to return from bars with my clothes smelling disgusting. I'm quite glad that at the house I lived in in the first half of 2008, my roommates let people smoke weed anywhere, but anyone smoking cigarettes had to go the garage or outside. I just don't get how smoking tobacco is so "disgusting" but smoking weed is perfect. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 10:06:58 PM BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco? All of it. I find it disgusting. I was quite overjoyed when Minnesota banned it in public and I no longer have to return from bars with my clothes smelling disgusting. I'm quite glad that at the house I lived in in the first half of 2008, my roommates let people smoke weed anywhere, but anyone smoking cigarettes had to go the garage or outside. I just don't get how smoking tobacco is so "disgusting" but smoking weed is perfect. It doesn't smell as bad or give you cancer. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 23, 2010, 10:07:54 PM I am actually watching this right and laughing my ass off: http://www.hulu.com/watch/139646/family-guy-april-in-quahog
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 23, 2010, 10:08:39 PM BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco? All of it. I find it disgusting. I was quite overjoyed when Minnesota banned it in public and I no longer have to return from bars with my clothes smelling disgusting. I'm quite glad that at the house I lived in in the first half of 2008, my roommates let people smoke weed anywhere, but anyone smoking cigarettes had to go the garage or outside. I just don't get how smoking tobacco is so "disgusting" but smoking weed is perfect. It doesn't smell as bad or give you cancer. Agree that weeds is healthier than tobacco. As of me, I never claimed tobacco is not disguisting. As an addict, I don't think about that at all. Just smoke. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:10:17 PM I understand all of the above but that doesn't explain what is so disgusting. I don't even smoke tobacco but I fail to see how smoking a plant can be disgusting depending on such subjective characteristics. There is tobacco out there that is free of all the carcinogens and sh**t that Big Tobacco adds.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: War on Want on April 23, 2010, 10:19:20 PM South Park isn't funny, except for a few episodes like the World of Warcraft or Scientology ones. Family Guy is funny almost all of the time.
Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? He's BRTD and South Park is South Park. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: John Dibble on April 23, 2010, 10:26:07 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: War on Want on April 23, 2010, 10:34:32 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. I think this forum has a BRTD obsession. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:35:12 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. I think this forum has a BRTD obsession. BRTD's the one making 50,000 plus posts on the forum. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: War on Want on April 23, 2010, 10:40:52 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. I think this forum has a BRTD obsession. BRTD's the one making 50,000 plus posts on the forum. The same is somewhat true with Lief and Vepres. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:42:28 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. I think this forum has a BRTD obsession. BRTD's the one making 50,000 plus posts on the forum. The same is somewhat true with Lief and Vepres. This is the only time I've ever made a thread about him, which is more about South park than him personally, and I don't see how I called him a troll, attacked him, or any other nonsense you claim, and I haven't seen others doing it too. But I sure do wish I had a yes-man like he does. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: War on Want on April 23, 2010, 10:45:12 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. I think this forum has a BRTD obsession. BRTD's the one making 50,000 plus posts on the forum. The same is somewhat true with Lief and Vepres. This is the only time I've ever made a thread about him, which is more about South park than him personally, and I don't see how I called him a troll, attacked him, or any other nonsense you claim, and I haven't seen others doing it too. But I sure do wish I had a yes-man like he does. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 10:46:38 PM Is it really a mystery why BRTD has an anti-South Park fetish? Yes, his numerous obsessions are a mystery, but that's only because it's not legal to dissect a living human's brain for study. I think this forum has a BRTD obsession. BRTD's the one making 50,000 plus posts on the forum. The same is somewhat true with Lief and Vepres. This is the only time I've ever made a thread about him, which is more about South park than him personally, and I don't see how I called him a troll, attacked him, or any other nonsense you claim, and I haven't seen others doing it too. But I sure do wish I had a yes-man like he does. Fair enough but I didn't make this thread to attack anyone, I wanted to know what's up with the hate towards South Park and I don't think BRTD interpreted this thread as an attack either since we went back and forth with serious posts. What others do is their prerogative. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: War on Want on April 23, 2010, 10:57:54 PM Yeah I don't really care about this thread, man. I'm mostly annoyed with people ignoring valid commentary from certain people here and hijacking threads with poster bashing. That will always happen and it is pointless for me to complain about it but it's one of the flaws of the Atlas.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: dead0man on April 23, 2010, 11:08:15 PM I'm just amazed he still thinks the "Butt Out" episode is pro-tobacco despite everybody and everything telling him otherwise. I also get enjoyment out of the fact that he gets pissed when people make fun of the things he likes. Like a 4 year old or a muslim.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: The Age Wave on April 23, 2010, 11:12:46 PM Yeah I don't really care about this thread, man. I'm mostly annoyed with people ignoring valid commentary from certain people here and hijacking threads with poster bashing. That will always happen and it is pointless for me to complain about it but it's one of the flaws of the Atlas. Welcome to the internet dude. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 24, 2010, 09:25:55 AM That South Park episode is probably one of the more obvious episodes of South Park's libertarian bias. However, I do happen to love South Park. It's not as anti-Liberal as its portrayed to be, and can be quite funny. I also like its stance of freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 24, 2010, 01:45:16 PM My biggest problem overall with South Park is actually that it's very similar to the monstrosities created by Friedberg and Seltzer. OMG CELEBRITY REFERENCE HOW FUNNY!
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 24, 2010, 11:53:27 PM Family Guy uses celebrity jokes and the like, but only as quick cutaways usually. And there's also actually a joke there. South Park basically expects you to roll on the floor laughing because they have a crude caricature of Paris Hilton or whatever onscreen, aka exactly what Friedberg and Seltzer do.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: dead0man on April 25, 2010, 01:54:29 AM It's amazing how completely backwards you are here and yet you can still manage to make it face forwards in your mind.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on April 25, 2010, 05:43:50 AM Family Guy uses celebrity jokes and the like, but only as quick cutaways usually. And there's also actually a joke there. South Park basically expects you to roll on the floor laughing because they have a crude caricature of Paris Hilton or whatever onscreen, aka exactly what Friedberg and Seltzer do. If anything, Family Guy is a lot more like Selzter/Friedberg because it doesn't use cultural references to advance the plot in any way. It uses them for comic relief. And that's ok. That works for a TV show. It makes a horrible movie series, but TV fits it. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: patrick1 on April 25, 2010, 07:08:48 AM Family Guy uses celebrity jokes and the like, but only as quick cutaways usually. And there's also actually a joke there. South Park basically expects you to roll on the floor laughing because they have a crude caricature of Paris Hilton or whatever onscreen, aka exactly what Friedberg and Seltzer do. If anything, Family Guy is a lot more like Selzter/Friedberg because it doesn't use cultural references to advance the plot in any way. It uses them for comic relief. And that's ok. That works for a TV show. It makes a horrible movie series, but TV fits it. You think Family Guy is ready for another James Woods episode. Which series of Star Trek's cast will Stewie kidnap next.... Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:27:12 PM OK I found out that the episode is streaming on Netflix. I'll watch it again. Starting right now.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:35:05 PM Holy f**k this is Anvilicious. Even worse than I remembered. Why not make the parents remotely realistic instead of thin strawmen? And I'm only about 6 minutes in.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: patrick1 on August 30, 2010, 11:35:19 PM Who wants to be 80 anyway?
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:37:06 PM OMG ROB REINER COMPLAINS ABOUT TOBACCO WHILE HE EATS BIG MACS THAT ARE ALSO UNHEALTHY! LOLZ THAT IS SO IRONIC! HE'S A HYPOCRITE, LULZ LULZ LULZ.
And this crap has been around for 14 years now. :( Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:39:24 PM ...and now smoking is banned in bars in Colorado! Haha, great.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: patrick1 on August 30, 2010, 11:41:49 PM OMG ROB REINER COMPLAINS ABOUT TOBACCO WHILE HE EATS BIG MACS THAT ARE ALSO UNHEALTHY! LOLZ THAT IS SO IRONIC! HE'S A HYPOCRITE, LULZ LULZ LULZ. And this crap has been around for 14 years now. :( () BRTD, doesn't like the caricaturing of someone he agrees with..... Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:43:49 PM Uh yeah the tobacco company employees are like mindless robots who love their jobs and just sing all day about how great it is. And the anti-tobacco people are all evil zombies. Yeah really balanced.
It wouldn't be so bad if they caricatured the tobacco companies fairly too... Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:47:52 PM So apparently anti-tobacco people kill innocent people just to make their anti-smoking points more valid. Except that doesn't happen. So what exactly is the point being made?
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:50:56 PM OK so it's over. It's still very stupid and I didn't laugh once.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on August 30, 2010, 11:51:18 PM And they think Bush wanted to bomb heaven.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:51:46 PM I'm now going to watch a Family Guy episode to cleanse myself of that crap and enjoy something that's actually funny.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on August 30, 2010, 11:52:43 PM lolll thread
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: patrick1 on August 30, 2010, 11:54:01 PM I'm now going to watch a Family Guy episode to cleanse myself of that crap and enjoy something that's actually funny. Thanks for the play by play. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2010, 11:58:57 PM This episode is arguably pro-life (It shows Stewie being conscious and aware in the womb.) yet I'm not offended because I've actually laughed at a rate of more than once a minute. Unlike South Park.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on August 31, 2010, 12:00:59 AM arguably pro-life (It shows Stewie being conscious and aware in the womb.) lol drawing conclusions based off nothing plot devices. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 31, 2010, 12:02:18 AM Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on August 31, 2010, 12:04:19 AM Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece. lolllll BRTD, I love ya man. You're a conspiracy theorist in the most awesomeway possible Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 31, 2010, 12:07:56 AM "Hey Lois look! The two symbols of the Republican Party: An elephant and a big, fat white guy whose threatened by change!"
Hahahaha that never gets old. That alone is funnier than the entire series of South Park combined. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on August 31, 2010, 12:14:40 AM "Hey Lois look! The two symbols of the Republican Party: An elephant and a big, fat white guy whose threatened by change!" Hahahaha that never gets old. That alone is funnier than the entire series of South Park combined. That episode you're watching is a classic. 10 years ago, when Family Guy was at its peak. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: John Dibble on August 31, 2010, 03:01:20 PM arguably pro-life (It shows Stewie being conscious and aware in the womb.) lol drawing conclusions based off nothing plot devices. Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece. So? Do you think that somehow believing in multiple stupid things will make them somehow less stupid? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 01, 2010, 03:29:59 PM This episode is arguably pro-life (It shows Stewie being conscious and aware in the womb.) yet I'm not offended because I've actually laughed at a rate of more than once a minute. Unlike South Park. You know what Jmf and BRTD have in common? One is taking the Bible literally, the other TV series. Both are doing this without deeper thinking or showing even a slightest ability to understand references or hidden context. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 02, 2010, 03:25:41 PM To throw fuel onto the fire...
Family Guy is far, far more offensive than South Park is. It is offensive in myriad ways and is profoundly stupid (though funny on occasion especially in the first three series or so). I agree that Butt out isn't one of the best South Park episodes and the quality of the last few series' has deteriorated quite a bit (Since Team America: World Police I think... that was really Parker/Stone first real misstep. That, and the guys are in their 40s... they just can't do toilet humour like they used to any more). Yet I still some of the best South Park episodes are, however superficial they may appear, far more intelligent and accurate on the contemporary world situation than anything else on Television right now. This is despite the fact that I don't always agree with them (Margaritaville and Imaginationland being brilliant examples of this. The former especially, while not a perfect episode, knocks out more truths about the recession in 22 minutes than news programs or 'quality television' ever have and ever can). Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 02, 2010, 03:32:13 PM Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece. Here we go again... From the wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_Fiction_(film)#Cinema) on the film: Quote Jules ritually recites what he describes as a biblical passage, Ezekiel 25:17, before he executes someone. We hear the passage three times—in the introductory sequence in which Jules and Vincent reclaim Marsellus's briefcase from the doomed Brett; that same recitation a second time, at the beginning of "The Bonnie Situation", which overlaps the end of the earlier sequence; and in the epilogue at the diner. The first version of the passage is as follows: “ The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee. ” The second version, from the diner scene, is identical except for the final line: "And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." While the final two sentences of Jules's speech are similar to the actual cited passage, the first two are fabricated from various biblical phrases.[183] The text of Ezekiel 25 preceding verse 17 indicates that God's wrath is retribution for the hostility of the Philistines. In the King James version from which Jules's speech is adapted, Ezekiel 25:17 reads in its entirety, "And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them."[184] Tarantino's primary inspiration for the speech was the work of Japanese martial arts star Sonny Chiba. Its text and its identification as Ezekiel 25:17 derive from an almost identical creed that appears at the beginning of the Chiba movie Karate Kiba (The Bodyguard; 1976), where it is both shown as a scrolling text and read by an offscreen narrator.[185] In the 1980s television series Kage no Gundan (Shadow Warriors), Chiba's character would lecture the villain-of-the-week about how the world must be rid of evil before killing him.[186] A killer delivers a similar biblical rant in Modesty Blaise, the hardback but pulp-style novel Vincent is shown with in two scenes.[187] That is, to say, the biblical reference is merely yet another meaningless movie reference. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 02, 2010, 05:39:40 PM Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece. Yes, of course, an eccentric gangster bible quote makes it a Christian propaganda piece ::) BRTD, I wonder, if in some movie one character would say "I oppose abortion", would you then condiser the movie, on just that narrow basis, as an anti-abortion propganda piece, regardless of all other context? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 02, 2010, 09:46:05 PM My reason for considering Pulp Fiction to be Christian propaganda has nothing to do with the Bible verse. Rather it's because of the message of seeking redemption and being given a second chance by God. Samuel L Jackson takes and accepts this, John Travolta doesn't, and we see what happens to him.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 02, 2010, 09:52:03 PM My reason for considering Pulp Fiction to be Christian propaganda has nothing to do with the Bible verse. Rather it's because of the message of seeking redemption and being given a second chance by God. Samuel L Jackson takes and accepts this, John Travolta doesn't, and we see what happens to him. Doesn't contradict anything I said earlier. That is just pastiche. This are no ideas in Pulp Fiction as far as I can see other than "retro is awesome", "how cool was this movie reference" and "Look! I've watched Bande a Part/anyotherfilmcited". Which isn't to say the film isn't well made or designed or anything like that. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 03, 2010, 01:52:04 PM My reason for considering Pulp Fiction to be Christian propaganda has nothing to do with the Bible verse. Rather it's because of the message of seeking redemption and being given a second chance by God. Samuel L Jackson takes and accepts this, John Travolta doesn't, and we see what happens to him. Ok, that's quite valid point, however I personally see it more like a pastiche. However, when we're talking about this SP episode, personally I see it more like making a fun of anti-smoking propagandist fanaticism, rather than actual "zomzg, smoke, smoke". I'd rather say message is: anti-smoking fanatics are an idiots who do more harm than good for anti-smokin propaganda. And it doesn't make gloryfinfg smoking of tobacco. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 04, 2010, 12:25:58 AM The episode was quite idiotic in how ridiculously one-sided it was (the tobacco employees singing about how such a wonderful job it was, please, that doesn't glorify tobacco?) and how insanely Anvilicious it was with the idiotic caricature of Rob Reiner and the whole "LULZ HE'S EATING UNHEALTHY FOOD WHILE CONDEMNING SMOKING, HYPOCRITE!" nonsense which was about as subtle as the typical "joke" in a Friedberg and Seltzer "film". And when have anti-tobacco people ever murdered someone just to make a point in an ad? Yeah if you have to resort to a stupid strawman you've kind of lost the argument. Oh and smoking is now banned in bars in Colorado, kind of invalidating one of the points.
The episode was incredibly retarded and I didn't laugh once. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Mint on September 04, 2010, 12:30:59 AM lol
Well I'm not surprised you'd take all that literally but... Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 05, 2010, 08:42:45 AM The episode was quite idiotic in how ridiculously one-sided it was (the tobacco employees singing about how such a wonderful job it was, please, that doesn't glorify tobacco?) I admitt I don't rebebmer the episode well. Yet, you think such "song" was 100% serious? Quote and how insanely Anvilicious it was with the idiotic caricature of Rob Reiner and the whole "LULZ HE'S EATING UNHEALTHY FOOD WHILE CONDEMNING SMOKING, HYPOCRITE!" Well, wouldn't it be a hypocrisy? Oh and smoking is now banned in bars in Colorado, kind of invalidating one of the points. How is the Colorado ban revelant to this? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 05, 2010, 12:33:51 PM The episode was quite idiotic in how ridiculously one-sided it was (the tobacco employees singing about how such a wonderful job it was, please, that doesn't glorify tobacco?) I admitt I don't rebebmer the episode well. Yet, you think such "song" was 100% serious? It clearly didn't balance out anything with a negative view on tobacco. Quote and how insanely Anvilicious it was with the idiotic caricature of Rob Reiner and the whole "LULZ HE'S EATING UNHEALTHY FOOD WHILE CONDEMNING SMOKING, HYPOCRITE!" Well, wouldn't it be a hypocrisy? The problem is how Anvilicious it was. To do satire like that you have to be subtle. This was as blatant as when Friedberg and Seltzer make someone look like a character from another movie and its quite blatantly obvious and yet STILL say what character or movie they are from. Oh and smoking is now banned in bars in Colorado, kind of invalidating one of the points. How is the Colorado ban revelant to this? The bit about how they tried to make Reiner look like a douche for opposing smoking in bars because "it's legal in Colorado." Not anymore. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 05, 2010, 01:41:21 PM The episode was quite idiotic in how ridiculously one-sided it was (the tobacco employees singing about how such a wonderful job it was, please, that doesn't glorify tobacco?) I admitt I don't rebebmer the episode well. Yet, you think such "song" was 100% serious? It clearly didn't balance out anything with a negative view on tobacco. Ok, we can thus agree the episode context was very unbalanced. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Vepres on September 06, 2010, 12:10:32 AM Satire isn't supposed to be balanced.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 06, 2010, 02:14:18 PM Satire isn't supposed to be balanced. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 'Balanced' Satire is an oxymoron to a fault. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 06, 2010, 03:22:26 PM So Gully is now a pro-tobacco hack?
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on September 06, 2010, 03:28:27 PM So Gully is now a pro-tobacco hack? () Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 06, 2010, 03:29:37 PM BTW it is possible to be unbalanced but not ridiculous Anvilicious (see TV Tropes.)
As noted before, South Park is usually about as subtle as Friedberg and Seltzer. Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 06, 2010, 03:38:04 PM So Gully is now a pro-tobacco hack? For saying that there's no such a thing as balanced satire ??? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 06, 2010, 03:38:44 PM For defending a pro-tobacco satire.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: King on September 06, 2010, 03:48:10 PM Damnit, I just vacuumed and now there's straw everywhere!
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Joe Republic on September 06, 2010, 03:48:34 PM Please stop inflicting your "logic" on us, BRTD. We've done nothing to deserve this kind of abuse.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 06, 2010, 05:02:13 PM So Gully is now a pro-tobacco hack? How long before I'll be called a "pro-tobacco industry" hack out of smoking? Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 06, 2010, 06:47:57 PM That just makes you an addicted, money-wasting, effectively suicidal fool.
Title: Re: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco? Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 08, 2010, 05:31:41 PM BTW it is possible to be unbalanced but not ridiculous Anvilicious (see TV Tropes.) As noted before, South Park is usually about as subtle as Friedberg and Seltzer. Subtely is an artistic strategy. Sometimes it is useful, sometimes it is not. South Park is of course extremely heavy-handed but that alone does not make it bad. |