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Title: Office of former Governor Oakvale: Adios, all, and thank you! Post by: Oakvale on May 09, 2010, 03:32:47 PM Quote Hey, everybody. This is the locked, archived thread from when I was the 8th Governor of the Pacific from July 17, 2010 until March 14, 2011. Prior to that I was Lt. Governor for a couple of months. It's kept as it was when I was elected to the Senate, kind of like if I'd died or something, but really it's so if, or when, I return to regional politics I'll have a handy office ready. :P Anyway, there's some useful information here, if you're looking for it. :) Hello, Pacific citizens and other assorted Atlasians! I'm Oakvale, Governor of the region, and here's some useful information. :) General information Introduction to Atlasia (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=95897.0) Offices Office of the Governor (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=116254.0), Oakvale (...) Office of the Lieutenant Governor (http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121349.0), ArchangelZero. The Pacific Court (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=126205.msg2686006#msg2686006), headed by Justice fuzzybigfoot Articles on the wiki: The Pacific (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Region) Our laws (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Statute) The Pacific Constitution (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Second_Pacific_Constitution) Note: The first few pages of this thread date from my time as Lieutenant Governor, so skip ahead to get to the current stuff. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 09, 2010, 03:36:12 PM There is as much chance of a Populares candidate running in the Pacific as there is an ice cube standing a chance in hell.
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on May 09, 2010, 03:39:06 PM There is as much chance of a Populares candidate running in the Pacific as there is an ice cube standing a chance in hell. Hell, I'd probably vote for them just to break the monotony. But yeah, the Pacific seems to be the most left-wing of the regions, as far as I can tell. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 09, 2010, 03:40:36 PM So, I've been elected to a position in which, I won't deny, not much happens, in an uncontested election in an admittedly one-party region. ;D You lucky bastard. I always faced competentive elections >:( Quote So, anyway, according to the wiki, as Lieutenant Governor, I've got the role of *cough* "responsible for supervising all elections and referenda" in the Pacific. So, yeah, I'll be doing that. And, if anything happens, poking my head into the legislature and shouting things. You lucky bastard, in Midwest I had nothing to do >:( Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 09, 2010, 03:48:56 PM There is as much chance of a Populares candidate running in the Pacific as there is an ice cube standing a chance in hell. Hell, I'd probably vote for them just to break the monotony. But yeah, the Pacific seems to be the most left-wing of the regions, as far as I can tell. Well you see I tried to do something about that last summer. As a result, I accidentally brought, the closest think to Osama Bin Laden this game will see, into the game. Most of the Pacific Conservatives are also no longer in the Pacific. Well I won't restate the history, its easily available. By the way, I don't think we have been formerly introduced. My name is North Carolina "Crazy Old Yank" Yankee, Senator of the Southeast. Known for my controversal statements which my "friends" on the left love to remind me of and trying in vain to save this game from the gates of hell (and no I don't me active Religion, but the Religion of Activity). And they don't call be crazy for nothing, sometimes I just go really nuts. How about you? Anything special about you? :) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on May 09, 2010, 04:22:00 PM There is as much chance of a Populares candidate running in the Pacific as there is an ice cube standing a chance in hell. Hell, I'd probably vote for them just to break the monotony. But yeah, the Pacific seems to be the most left-wing of the regions, as far as I can tell. Well you see I tried to do something about that last summer. As a result, I accidentally brought, the closest think to Osama Bin Laden this game will see, into the game. Most of the Pacific Conservatives are also no longer in the Pacific. Well I won't restate the history, its easily available. By the way, I don't think we have been formerly introduced. My name is North Carolina "Crazy Old Yank" Yankee, Senator of the Southeast. Known for my controversal statements which my "friends" on the left love to remind me of and trying in vain to save this game from the gates of hell (and no I don't me active Religion, but the Religion of Activity). And they don't call be crazy for nothing, sometimes I just go really nuts. How about you? Anything special about you? :) Good to meet you! I dunno if there's anything particularly interesting about me, but I'm hoping to somehow magically restore activity to the Pacific region by begging other political parties to do something. ;D Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 09, 2010, 04:48:26 PM There is as much chance of a Populares candidate running in the Pacific as there is an ice cube standing a chance in hell. Hell, I'd probably vote for them just to break the monotony. But yeah, the Pacific seems to be the most left-wing of the regions, as far as I can tell. Well you see I tried to do something about that last summer. As a result, I accidentally brought, the closest think to Osama Bin Laden this game will see, into the game. Most of the Pacific Conservatives are also no longer in the Pacific. Well I won't restate the history, its easily available. By the way, I don't think we have been formerly introduced. My name is North Carolina "Crazy Old Yank" Yankee, Senator of the Southeast. Known for my controversal statements which my "friends" on the left love to remind me of and trying in vain to save this game from the gates of hell (and no I don't me active Religion, but the Religion of Activity). And they don't call be crazy for nothing, sometimes I just go really nuts. How about you? Anything special about you? :) Good to meet you! I dunno if there's anything particularly interesting about me, but I'm hoping to somehow magically restore activity to the Pacific region by begging other political parties to do something. ;D Good luck with that. To quote the Great Alcon "We are content with the leftwing Monarchy of the Pacific, and as such we shall remain docile" or something along those lines. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: bgwah on May 09, 2010, 05:21:44 PM We've had competitive elections before, but the JCP usually wins them anyway and the losers move to other regions (such as Xahar and Hamilton). Though regions becoming strongholds is nothing new. The DA owns the Mideast, and the Pops the Northeast. When the RPP was larger it dominated the Southeast.
Good luck! :) Oh, and I'll have a slice of pizza, please! Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 09, 2010, 10:20:03 PM You're not actually going to do anything.
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: bgwah on May 09, 2010, 10:21:03 PM You're not actually going to do anything. You excel in this area, so maybe you're onto something. :) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Purple State on May 09, 2010, 11:34:22 PM Congrats oakvale. Whether your position means much is up to you. Engage with the issues and try to breath some life into the Pacific legislature (maybe even try to make it elected!).
Good luck. :) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Ebowed on May 10, 2010, 02:26:52 AM the Pacific legislature (maybe even try to make it elected!). I like every citizen being a member of the legislature. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Marokai Backbeat on May 10, 2010, 02:58:36 AM the Pacific legislature (maybe even try to make it elected!). I like every citizen being a member of the legislature. Ditto. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on May 10, 2010, 08:10:18 AM You're not actually going to do anything. :( Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 10, 2010, 08:59:35 AM Yikes whats that load finger scratching on blackboard noise?
-Oh thats just Xahar trying to scare the new JCPer away. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 10, 2010, 09:32:48 AM Yikes whats that load finger scratching on blackboard noise? -Oh thats just Xahar trying to scare the new JCPer away. Xahar is a bully. Ignore him. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 10, 2010, 07:39:18 PM You're not actually going to do anything. :( Yeah, the Pacific kind of sucks like that. Yikes whats that load finger scratching on blackboard noise? -Oh thats just Xahar trying to scare the new JCPer away. Xahar is a bully. Ignore him. Nice to see left and right united in support of dictablanda. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 10, 2010, 08:22:11 PM You're not actually going to do anything. :( Yeah, the Pacific kind of sucks like that. Midwest can be worse. At least you'd open and close vooting boths. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on May 23, 2010, 06:36:24 PM For the sake of making some kind of announcement, I've happily discovered that I can, in fact, vote in the Pacific legislature.
Like this. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.msg2495809#msg2495809) Obviously, I have voted to regulate snowmobiles solely because of Sarah Palin's Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Badger on May 24, 2010, 07:45:29 AM For the sake of making some kind of announcement, I've happily discovered that I can, in fact, vote in the Pacific legislature. Like this. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.msg2495809#msg2495809) Obviously, I have voted to regulate snowmobiles solely because of Sarah Palin's As the Toddster pointed out to Greta Van Sustren (in kind of a dicky way, IIRC), it's a snow machine, thank you. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on May 24, 2010, 08:34:40 AM For the sake of making some kind of announcement, I've happily discovered that I can, in fact, vote in the Pacific legislature. Like this. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.msg2495809#msg2495809) Obviously, I have voted to regulate snowmobiles solely because of Sarah Palin's As the Toddster pointed out to Greta Van Sustren (in kind of a dicky way, IIRC), it's a snow machine, thank you. Oops, Obviously, I have voted to regulate snowmobiles solely because of Sarah Palin's Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on June 02, 2010, 11:14:48 AM To the surprise of absolutely no-one, I've endorsed the Purple State/Marokai Blue (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=115295.msg2517728#msg2517728) ticket for the upcoming Presidential election.
I especially like their ambitious reform plan, which involves a "reboot" of the whole Atlasia game-thing. *recedes into the shadows reserved for Lieutenant Governors* Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on June 21, 2010, 09:22:09 AM Largely bumping this thread for it's own sake:
Firstly, I'd like to congratulate President & Vice-President elect Purple State and Marokai Blue. I was always fairly sure they'd win, but it was a surprisingly large victory nonetheless. Hopefully their 'game reform' ambitions will go according to plan. :) In other news, there's a vote in the ol' Pacific Legislature (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.new#new) about repealing something called the "Accuracy in Balloting Act". Unfortunately, I have literally no idea what this is, so I'll be aimlessly waiting around in the hope that someone lets slips what "Accuracy in Balloting" means and why it's a) Awesome and should be enshrined in ours hearts and minds or b) Evil and should be sent to the lake of ice in the deepest circle of hell for all of eternity. I will also be grubbing around, meandering and vaguely considering running for some kind of other Atlasian office. Also, Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Ebowed on June 21, 2010, 10:58:23 AM I apologize, here is the text of the law (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Accuracy_in_Balloting_Act).
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on June 21, 2010, 11:05:37 AM I apologize, here is the text of the law (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Accuracy_in_Balloting_Act). Thanks! Quote Xahar shall henceforth appear as "Chode" on all regional ballots. Needless to say, I'll now be voting against a repeal of this Act. ;D Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on June 24, 2010, 06:24:09 PM So, to my own disappointment, I've had to vote against the Pacific ratifying the Intra Regional Mobility Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119361.0).
It's a good act in principle, but in practice it puts a lot of unecessary strain on the RG. I've outlined my suggestions below: Reluctantly, nay, based on the logistics of the inevitable daily state moves. If it were possible, maybe a proper solution would be to eliminate the states entirely as anything more than window dressing. In others word, being from Washington wouldn't be any different to being from, say, Oregon. This is, AFAIK, already the case, but the RG is nonetheless obliged to keep track of what state, not what region, someone's registered in. So yeah, long story short, I'd like to see registration based on region, not state, since states are pretty much irrelevant anyway. [/two cents] EDIT: Or, uh, what bgwah said. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on June 24, 2010, 06:27:47 PM So, to my own disappointment, I've had to vote against the Pacific ratifying the Intra Regional Mobility Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119361.0). It's a good act in principle, but in practice it puts a lot of unecessary strain on the RG. I've outlined my suggestions below: Reluctantly, nay, based on the logistics of the inevitable daily state moves. If it were possible, maybe a proper solution would be to eliminate the states entirely as anything more than window dressing. In others word, being from Washington wouldn't be any different to being from, say, Oregon. This is, AFAIK, already the case, but the RG is nonetheless obliged to keep track of what state, not what region, someone's registered in. So yeah, long story short, I'd like to see registration based on region, not state, since states are pretty much irrelevant anyway. [/two cents] EDIT: Or, uh, what bgwah said. The RG himself has said it would not be a problem. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=118334.msg2530567#msg2530567) I sincerely hope you will re-consider. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on June 24, 2010, 06:32:15 PM So, to my own disappointment, I've had to vote against the Pacific ratifying the Intra Regional Mobility Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119361.0). It's a good act in principle, but in practice it puts a lot of unecessary strain on the RG. I've outlined my suggestions below: Reluctantly, nay, based on the logistics of the inevitable daily state moves. If it were possible, maybe a proper solution would be to eliminate the states entirely as anything more than window dressing. In others word, being from Washington wouldn't be any different to being from, say, Oregon. This is, AFAIK, already the case, but the RG is nonetheless obliged to keep track of what state, not what region, someone's registered in. So yeah, long story short, I'd like to see registration based on region, not state, since states are pretty much irrelevant anyway. [/two cents] EDIT: Or, uh, what bgwah said. The RG himself has said it would not be a problem. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=118334.msg2530567#msg2530567) I sincerely hope you will re-consider. Oh, I didn't see that. That does make a difference, since I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that poor Fritz had to update every time someone got the idea of moving to Rhode Island or whatever. I've spitballed a figure of 30 days as a compromise, since, I dunno, maybe future RGs won't be a dedicated. ;D More to the point though, I don't really see why the RG bothers with state-level registrations, anyway, since AFAIK we don't have anything on the state level in Atlasia. I wouldn't worry, anyway, there's no way the amendment's going to fail, my vote or not. EDIT: Franzl beat me to the punch: I've suggested this before, but why not abolish state registration entirely? I don't see what purpose state based registration serves anymore without the district system. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: bgwah on June 24, 2010, 06:51:35 PM Well, that's cool if Fritz doesn't mind, but I still worry about the pressure it might put on future RGs.
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on June 24, 2010, 06:53:34 PM So, to my own disappointment, I've had to vote against the Pacific ratifying the Intra Regional Mobility Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119361.0). It's a good act in principle, but in practice it puts a lot of unecessary strain on the RG. I've outlined my suggestions below: Reluctantly, nay, based on the logistics of the inevitable daily state moves. If it were possible, maybe a proper solution would be to eliminate the states entirely as anything more than window dressing. In others word, being from Washington wouldn't be any different to being from, say, Oregon. This is, AFAIK, already the case, but the RG is nonetheless obliged to keep track of what state, not what region, someone's registered in. So yeah, long story short, I'd like to see registration based on region, not state, since states are pretty much irrelevant anyway. [/two cents] EDIT: Or, uh, what bgwah said. The RG himself has said it would not be a problem. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=118334.msg2530567#msg2530567) I sincerely hope you will re-consider. Oh, I didn't see that. That does make a difference, since I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that poor Fritz had to update every time someone got the idea of moving to Rhode Island or whatever. I've spitballed a figure of 30 days as a compromise, since, I dunno, maybe future RGs won't be a dedicated. ;D More to the point though, I don't really see why the RG bothers with state-level registrations, anyway, since AFAIK we don't have anything on the state level in Atlasia. I wouldn't worry, anyway, there's no way the amendment's going to fail, my vote or not. EDIT: Franzl beat me to the punch: I've suggested this before, but why not abolish state registration entirely? I don't see what purpose state based registration serves anymore without the district system. Well generally it was agreed that maintaining state registration adds flavor and interest, plus we are prepared in case we ever return to a system that depends upon state registration. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 09, 2010, 06:38:05 AM Allow me to be the first to congratulate Governor Ebowed on his nomination to the Supreme Court seat vacated by Vice-President Marokai Blue. :)
Executive Action By the power vested in me, I hereby appoint Ebowed to be Associate Justice on the Supreme Court of Atlasia for confirmation by the Senate. Signed, ~PS Of course, I'd like to urge the Senate to cofirm this nominee. Ebowed's done a fine job as Governor of the Pacific, and I'm confident he'd do a fine job on the Supreme Court, too. EDIT: Also, because I don't know where else to ask, how does one go about getting wiki editing privileges? Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Barnes on July 09, 2010, 10:44:26 AM EDIT: Also, because I don't know where else to ask, how does one go about getting wiki editing privileges? Just PM Dave and ask him. :) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 09, 2010, 11:50:47 AM EDIT: Also, because I don't know where else to ask, how does one go about getting wiki editing privileges? Just PM Dave and ask him. :) Oh. Thanks! EDIT: Great, got that sorted out. Updated my own article a little (ego FTW) and added Ebowed's Supreme Court nomination to his article. :) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 18, 2010, 10:08:17 PM I, Ebowed, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of Associate Justice and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia, so help me Dave. I, Oakvale, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of Governor of the Pacific and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Atlasia, so help me Dave. Well, there it is. Yes, in a development that will strike dread into the hearts of good men everywhere, I've ascended to the, er, governership of the Pacific in light of (former) Governor Ebowed's appointment to the Supreme Court First and foremost, I'd like to congratulate Justice Ebowed on his succesful confirmation, and wish him all the best on the Court. The President made a fine choice. :) Secondly, as Governor I'll have to certify the results of the legislature's vote on the "Ludlow Amendment". Of course, I was personally opposed to the amendment, but it passed the Pacific legislature fair and square, even while failing overall. If anyone wants to replace me in the now-vacant Lieutenant Governor's mansion, you've got a week to declare your candidacy. After that, I'll appoint a replacement. There's an election next month AFAIK so it's not a huge deal, anyway. Lastly, the remainder of Ebowed's term expires next month. I'm undecided as to whether I'll seek election in my own right, but rest assured that regardless of my decision I'll serve dutifully as Governor for as long as I'm in office, be it as a mere "placeholder" or something more. Thanks to everyone who made this thread somewhat active! I'll be continuing to use this, er, offi Oakvale Governor of the Pacific [1] [1] Come on, grant me a little pomp and circumstance. :P Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Barnes on July 18, 2010, 10:11:47 PM I updated the Pacific Wiki pages, and such, so everything is nice and up-to-date. ;)
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 18, 2010, 10:11:53 PM Ah, in Pacific it's so easy to get a promotion rapidly.
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 18, 2010, 10:12:27 PM Ah, in Pacific it's so easy to get a promotion rapidly. It's like political musical chairs in this place. :P EDIT: Thanks muchly, Barnes! Title: Re: Office of Pacific Lieutenant Governor Oakvale Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 18, 2010, 10:13:39 PM I, Oakvale, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of Governor of the Pacific and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Atlasia, so help me Dave. Oh dear, my condolences to the Pacific region. :( Congrats on your promotion. ;) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: bgwah on July 18, 2010, 10:16:09 PM Congratulations. Personally I hope you decide to run next month. No Pacific Governor has served less than one term, you know! :)
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Purple State on July 19, 2010, 12:23:02 AM Congrats from one executive to another. :)
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 19, 2010, 11:29:51 AM Thanks, everyone. Hopefully I won't leave the Pacific a charred, barren wasteland. :)
BTW, Mr. President, when does the ConCon start? We in the Pacific haven't got a delegate yet, so I'm a-searching for volunteers. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Purple State on July 19, 2010, 09:41:20 PM Thanks, everyone. Hopefully I won't leave the Pacific a charred, barren wasteland. :) BTW, Mr. President, when does the ConCon start? We in the Pacific haven't got a delegate yet, so I'm a-searching for volunteers. It starts as soon as all the delegates are selected. I know, not a good incentive to get moving quickly, but so it goes. ;) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 09:42:56 AM I'll make my
I'll be seeking a full term as Governor of the Pacific. I've mulled it over, and briefly considered running for one of the at-large Senate seats instead, but I think I can do good work for the Pacific, so I'm going to run for a term as Governor in my own right when the remainder of Ebowed's term expires next month. It may be the Pacific, but I've been Governor for like three days, so I wouldn't be surprised if I had an opponent or two, even within the JCP. I'll roll out some policy proposals over the next few days. :) EDIT: Thanks for the info, Mr. President! Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 20, 2010, 12:04:31 PM Thus far, you've been a nice, obedient little minion. You'll do fine as Governor.
Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 12:36:58 PM Thus far, you've been a nice, obedient little minion. You'll do fine as Governor. Oh shut up. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 20, 2010, 12:41:29 PM Thus far, you've been a nice, obedient little minion. You'll do fine as Governor. Oh shut up. Who told you to say that? Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 12:53:30 PM Thus far, you've been a nice, obedient little minion. You'll do fine as Governor. Oh shut up. Who told you to say that? Have I offended you somehow? I merely ask. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 20, 2010, 02:23:04 PM Thus far, you've been a nice, obedient little minion. You'll do fine as Governor. Oh shut up. Who told you to say that? Have I offended you somehow? I merely ask. Not beyond just being a tool, no. Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 02:54:31 PM Thus far, you've been a nice, obedient little minion. You'll do fine as Governor. Oh shut up. Who told you to say that? Have I offended you somehow? I merely ask. Not beyond just being a tool, no. *shrug* Well, um, what can I say to that? I'm not a "tool" of anyone (or anything, for that matter), but believe what you will. It's a free EDIT: I'm assuming that you meant "tool" in the metaphorical sense as opposed to the colloquial... Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 09:20:58 PM On the advice of Midwest
Here's me, working (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvoTDoO9Hg) hard for the region. *cheesy 80s music blares* *runs up mountain* :P Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 20, 2010, 09:24:45 PM On the advice of Midwest Here's me, working (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvoTDoO9Hg) hard for the region. *cheesy 80s music blares* *runs up mountain* :P *hughughug* ;D :D :) Title: Re: Office of Pacific Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 09:28:43 PM On the advice of Midwest Here's me, working (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvoTDoO9Hg) hard for the region. *cheesy 80s music blares* *runs up mountain* :P *hughughug* ;D :D :) I can't lose now! Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: CatoMinor on July 20, 2010, 09:34:20 PM On the advice of Midwest Here's me, working (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvoTDoO9Hg) hard for the region. *cheesy 80s music blares* *runs up mountain* :P Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 20, 2010, 10:01:51 PM On the advice of Midwest Here's me, working (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvoTDoO9Hg) hard for the region. *cheesy 80s music blares* *runs up mountain* :P No, of course not. That is my evil opponent, Xahar. :P Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 23, 2010, 11:09:05 AM Pacific citizens should go and vote in the special election (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121213.0) to fill the Lieutenant Governor's position.
Mind you, there's an election next month so the winner will have to renew their term pretty soon. Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 24, 2010, 08:18:42 AM Random campaign idea #1
Since Dave (praise be upon him) kindly gave me the, er, much coveted ability to edit our wiki (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Main_Page), I've noticed what pretty much everyone else has - that, despite the noble efforts of a selfless few, the wiki is in a near-constant state of disrepair, clogged with outdated and, thus, irrelevant articles. That's why I'm proposing the creation of an appointed (and subject to confirmation) position I've rather cheesily decided to call the (Pacific) Historian General, [1] for the purposes of mantaining and updating articles related to our region, such as... Pacific region (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific), Pacific Gubernatorial elections (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Gubernatorial_Elections), Pacific elected officials (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Elected_Officials), A bunch of laws under the Pacific Statute (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Laws_of_the_Pacific_Region#Passed_under_Governor_Ebowed) article. And, well, you get the idea. :) Now, according to our Constitution, the Lieutenant Governor is tasked with doing said updating of articles, but, em, yeah, that doesn't really work out in practice, as the constant poor state of the wiki shows (although, to be fair, the Pacific seems to be slightly better than most, although that's not saying much). Case in point, I was Lieutenant Governor, and I found this out literally yesterday by stumbling across the Constitution on the wiki. So, yeah. More to the point, it's a pretty intensive job, possibly a little much for one person. As such, I wouldn't be adverse to allowing for a deputy or two if the... HG requested such. And, if there are some strict Constitutional purists out there, I'd be okay with placing the Lieutenant Governor in some kind of advisory role to the department. Hell, it would fit in nicely with my second major goal, i.e. "giving the Lieutenant Govenor something to actually do." :P In summary, if the good people of the Pacific elect me Governor next month, I'll create a government position for the sole purpose of keeping Pacific-relevant wiki articles updated. PS: Oh, and hey, on a gameplay basis, more government positions are always good. ;) [1] Shut up. Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 25, 2010, 01:26:38 PM Presumably Random campaign idea #2 is electing someone to the Constitutional Convention who will do nothing.
Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 25, 2010, 01:57:40 PM Presumably Random campaign idea #2 is electing someone to the Constitutional Convention who will do nothing. FWIW, I'm not the one asking inactive citizens to vote, something which is, unfortunately, happening with both you and Ebowed. Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 25, 2010, 02:06:43 PM But you are the one voting for an inactive candidate. I wouldn't have to do this otherwise.
Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 25, 2010, 02:12:10 PM But you are the one voting for an inactive candidate. I wouldn't have to do this otherwise. Well, sure, I think Ebowed would do a great job as our delegate - which, I hasten to add, is more as a result of his unique qualifications for the task than any reflection on you . I'm not too thrilled about the inactive voters being awoken from their slumber solely to vote for the ConCon delegate, and that goes for those voting for Ebowed as much as those voting for you, but I'll vote for the candidate I want to. And let's not forget that, when I voted for Ebowed, you had a huge lead and it was all likely to be academic anyway. The surge in Ebowed votes was nothing to do with me, and surprised me. Besides, let's look at this in another way - the race is tied, so it's entirely possible that you'll be our ConCon delegate regardless. :) Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 25, 2010, 02:13:45 PM His unique qualifications being, presumably, JCP membership.
Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 25, 2010, 02:31:30 PM His unique qualifications being, presumably, JCP membership. Yeah, I'm a partisan hack. To the extent that I assumed you were in the JCP until I saw your Chartist convention thread a couple of days ago. There's no conspiracy here. Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 25, 2010, 02:33:17 PM Well, no, I don't suppose it can be called a conspiracy when it's in plain sight.
Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: bgwah on July 25, 2010, 03:01:48 PM Well, no, I don't suppose it can be called a conspiracy when it's in plain sight. There was a different conspiracy, though... Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 26, 2010, 07:45:22 AM Some news!
Voting is now closed. Archangel Zero has been elected Lieutenant Governor. ArchangelZero's been elected Pacific Lieutenant Governor in the special election held to fill the vacany I left in the position. I'm sure he'll do a fine job, and look forward to working with him in the coming weeks and months. :) Voting is now closed. Ebowed: 10 vote(s) Xahar: 9 vote(s) (abstain): 1 vote(s) Ebowed is elected Constitutional Convention delegate for the Pacific. And, yes, a messy and controversial fight comes to an end as Tender Branson's vote pushes Ebowed over the finish line and he's elected as our ConCon delegate. I'd like to formally congratulate the former Governor on his victory, and send my sincere commiserations to Xahar. It was a close fought thing. Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 26, 2010, 01:37:58 PM A few words on the bad news (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=120888.msg2590806#msg2590806) on the unemployment situation.
I'm going to go ahead and advocate tax credits for businesses that hire again, which I know is fairly obvious, but there's only so much I can do for now. Also, I'm going to trawl through the statute and see if there's any particularly egregious overregulation I can try to remove, too, but I thnk, whatever our reputation, we're not a business un-friendly as people might assume. BTW, does anyone know what the minimum wage is in the Pacific? I'd imagine it's rather high, but I haven't been able to find an up-to-date figure. The most recent I can find is from 2007 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Minimum_Wage_Raise_Act), which specifies a wage of $7.50, which is fairly reasonable, but I wouldn't be adverse to cutting it by a few cent if it proves necessary. It's worth noting that lowering labour costs will provide more incentive for business to a) Stay in Atlasia b) Create jobs Ultimately, though, we're going to have to wait for the actual unemployment figures before we get into specifics. Title: Re: Oakvale For Governor Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 29, 2010, 11:49:36 AM A comment on The Porcupine's poll (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121484.0).
Relatively low approval ratings aren't surprising at this point, but, if you'll pardon the cliché, next month's election really is about the future. Where do we want the Pacific to go from here? Do we want the Pacific to adopt impractical, unworkable, and archaic far-left policies? Do we want, however unlikely, some kind of model based on libertarian fairy dust? Or do we want the Pacific to enter a new era of sensible government, government that's fiscally responsible but not afraid to spend money where it's needed? Because that's the kind of government I'll lead as Governor, and ArchangelZero will lead as Lieutenant Governor. A liberal society that encourages enterprise, but not at the expense of the vulnerable, that encourages fiscal restraint, but not for slavish dogmatic reasons, and, above all, one that will make the Pacific a model for the rest of the nation. I'm already working on solving the unemployment problem, advocating a regional version of the Senate's Hiring Incentives Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.msg2594325#msg2594325). Naturally, I urge the legislature to pass this as soon as possible, to get business hiring again. In other words, please elect the Oakvale - ArchangelZero ticket next month. :) Thanks, Oakvale. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 29, 2010, 11:54:22 AM I'd also like to take this opportunity to invite my opponent, Xahar, to a debate on the issues, probably some time next month, and hosted, of course, by an impartial third party.
What do you say, Xahar? Want to have a debate? :) Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Ebowed on July 29, 2010, 03:24:45 PM The minimum wage is still $7.50 but will increase to $8.75 on September 12 this year.
Though I have no objection to the hiring incentives proposal, I must confess that I find the term 'tax credit' to be quite the grating bit of political lexicon. :P Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 29, 2010, 03:25:28 PM I'd also like to take this opportunity to invite my opponent, Xahar, to a debate on the issues, probably some time next month, and hosted, of course, by an impartial third party. What do you say, Xahar? Want to have a debate? :) Yeah, sure. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 29, 2010, 03:32:39 PM The minimum wage is still $7.50 but will increase to $8.75 on September 12 this year. Though I have no objection to the hiring incentives proposal, I must confess that I find the term 'tax credit' to be quite the grating bit of political lexicon. :P It sounds nice. :P I'd also like to take this opportunity to invite my opponent, Xahar, to a debate on the issues, probably some time next month, and hosted, of course, by an impartial third party. What do you say, Xahar? Want to have a debate? :) Yeah, sure. Great, we'll organise it some time next month then. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 31, 2010, 07:28:34 PM I'm temporarily leaving you fine people for a week or so (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121684.0). :P
In my absence, ArchangelZero will be Acting Governor, and I'm confident you'll all give him your support. He'll do a fine job. Just thought I should formally announce it here, too. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on July 31, 2010, 07:31:27 PM I'm temporarily leaving you fine people for a week or so (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121684.0). :P In my absence, ArchangelZero will be Acting Governor, and I'm confident you'll all give him your support. He'll do a fine job. Just thought I should formally announce it here, too. You couldn't have warned me earlier? Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on July 31, 2010, 07:34:05 PM I'm temporarily leaving you fine people for a week or so (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121684.0). :P In my absence, ArchangelZero will be Acting Governor, and I'm confident you'll all give him your support. He'll do a fine job. Just thought I should formally announce it here, too. You couldn't have warned me earlier? Haha, sorry, I literally just sent you a PM on the subject. You've got a day or so to prepare, although there's not a whole lot on the agenda at the moment so I wouldn't worry. :) Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on July 31, 2010, 07:45:35 PM Please refer all questions, issues, and campaign business to my office for the time being:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121349.msg2597164#new Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on August 08, 2010, 08:22:37 AM *resumes duties*
I'd like to thank the Lieutenant Governor for handling the region's business while I was away, and the legislature for passing the much-needed regional version of the Hiring Incentives Act. :) Secondly, I'm running for JCP whip, so, y'know, vote for me. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on August 08, 2010, 10:09:51 AM Yay, he's back, and I'm done.:P
Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on August 10, 2010, 10:20:57 AM So, what's in the news?
The Pacific gubernatorial debate (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122205.0) between Xahar and I is underway, and it's sure to be good, so take a look! :) In other news, I've got two interviews, in The Voice of Kalwejt (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122113.msg2607756#msg2607756) and The Porcupine (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121484.msg2607424#msg2607424), where I talk about my plans for the Pacific. So, yeah, check them out. Actually, I've read my opponent Xahar's interview in The Porcupine and he makes an interesting point: If by some sort of warp in the space-time continuum I were elected, I would try to replace the Legislature with a real elective Legislature. [...] Elections to a small legislature would allow new Pacificans to get involved in the process and also give lawmaking to a representative sample of the people, rather than whoever is involved enough to vote or reliable enough to be PMed to vote. I actually think this is a good idea. I've been considering proposing some kind of elected legislature for the Pacific - I've dorkily been calling it a "Pacific Council", but something less Star Trek would be nice - albeit I was considering a bicameral system, with the popular legislature still existing, as opposed to out and out replacing it. Still, I think this is, broadly, something me and Xahar agree upon. A small, influential "upper house" would increase activity and engagement amongst Pacific citizens, and, if elected, I'll introduce a bill to create such. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on August 10, 2010, 07:16:10 PM So, what's in the news? The Pacific gubernatorial debate (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122205.0) between Xahar and I is underway, and it's sure to be good, so take a look! :) In other news, I've got two interviews, in The Voice of Kalwejt (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122113.msg2607756#msg2607756) and The Porcupine (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121484.msg2607424#msg2607424), where I talk about my plans for the Pacific. So, yeah, check them out. Actually, I've read my opponent Xahar's interview in The Porcupine and he makes an interesting point: If by some sort of warp in the space-time continuum I were elected, I would try to replace the Legislature with a real elective Legislature. [...] Elections to a small legislature would allow new Pacificans to get involved in the process and also give lawmaking to a representative sample of the people, rather than whoever is involved enough to vote or reliable enough to be PMed to vote. I actually think this is a good idea. I've been considering proposing some kind of elected legislature for the Pacific - I've dorkily been calling it a "Pacific Council", but something less Star Trek would be nice - albeit I was considering a bicameral system, with the popular legislature still existing, as opposed to out and out replacing it. Still, I think this is, broadly, something me and Xahar agree upon. A small, influential "upper house" would increase activity and engagement amongst Pacific citizens, and, if elected, I'll introduce a bill to create such. It's a grand idea and Pacific Council isn't that Star Trek-y. Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on August 14, 2010, 04:10:08 PM Presenting my not exactly original re-election, er, signature sticker:
() Obviously, I will now certainly win. :P Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on August 19, 2010, 08:02:12 AM Please, everyone, vote (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122780.0) in the gubernatorial election. :)
Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 19, 2010, 08:28:10 AM Good luck!
Title: Re: Oakvale - ArchangelZero for the Pacific, Campaign Headquarters. Also, my office. Post by: Oakvale on August 22, 2010, 08:40:51 AM I would like to congratulate myself (:P) on winning a full term in the gubernatorial election (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122780.0). Commiserations to my opponent, Xahar, and, needless to say, I hope he and I can work together in the coming months.
I'd also like to congratulate my eminently capable Lieutenant Governor, ArchangelZero on winning a full term of his own, unanimously. :) And, of course, thanks to everyone who supported and voted for me. Sure, it's the Pacific, but no election's a sure thing, and it's nice to see people are willing to vote for a relative newbie. In the next few weeks I'll be proposing some major reforms of the Pacific's government. First up is resurrecting the extinct position of Pacific Chief Justce (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Chief_Justice) - albeit with some important changes to make sure it doesn't fall into the same... obsolence it apparently did last time. The most obvious way to ensure this is to make every piece of legislation passed from now subject to automatic judicial review, but we can discuss the specifics when I've worked out a preliminary bill. :) () Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: Oakvale on August 26, 2010, 11:38:15 AM In which Oakvale creates an unwieldy bureaucracy, Part I
Okay, I've been elected to a full term, so time to get to work, I think. Here's the draft of one of a few governmental restructuring ideas that I plan to introduce to the legislature shortly. I'm hoping to introduce my governmental reforms as a single amendment. So what I'm doing here is trying to iron out the problems, section by section, so that the entire project doesn't fail because of a missing comma or something. What's on the drawing board? This and a dedicated wiki editor, really. I'm also going to take a tentative look at some form of elected legislature, but that obviously might need to be an amendment in its own right if it proves controversial... If you've got any suggestions, it would be better if I hear them now as opposed to having to amend the, er, amendment while it's already before the people. ;) Quote Establishing the position of "Pacific Justice" Whereas there is currently no judicial overview of laws passed by the legislature, 1. The position of Pacific Justice is hereby established. 2. The Pacific Justice shall be appointed by the Governor for a life term, and subject to confirmation by a plurality of the legislature. 3. The role of the Justice will be as follows: - To automatically review each piece of legislation passed by the legislature to confirm whether it is constitutional in accordance with the Constitution of the Pacific region. In the event that the Justice finds the legislation unconstitutional, the law in question will be struck down. - To refer legislation to the Atlasian Supreme Court, specifically in cases where the legislation in question does not violate Pacific law but does violate federal law. - To determine whether an elected official has committed unconstitutional offenses. Whether these offenses constitute grounds for impeachment/recall shall, however, remain the decision of the legislature. 4. The Justice may be impeached by the legislature for misconduct in the following way: 1) A citizen may propose that the Justice be impeached. 2) If this petition receives no less than five signatures from other citizens of the Pacific within one week of proposal, it may be voted on by the legislature as with regular legislation and elections. 3) A two-thirds majority shall be necessary for the impeachment petition to be successful. 4) In the event that the impeachment is successful, the Justice shall immediately cease to hold office, and the Governor may name a replacement. Let me just preempt a few criticisms: We've already had a similar position, and it was useless. How is this different? The main difference is that the Justice has to automatically review the constitutionality of each bill passed. Now, in most IRL legislatures this would be unreasonable. However, this is Atlasia, and we really don't pass such a volume of legislation that it's a daunting task for the individual involved. And hey, anything to get some activity. :P A life term? Personally, I think the life term helps keep the office non-partisan. However, I want to stress that I'm open for debate on this. If y'all think that more traditional terms are a good idea, I'll include it. :) PS: Not that it's entirely significant, but I've decided to call this the "Pacific Justice" rather than "Pacific Chief Justice", as the previous position was called. Because, um, we don't have any associate justices, so "chief" seemed a little OTT. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 27, 2010, 12:12:00 AM How about you just give the Lieutenant Governor that job?
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: bgwah on August 27, 2010, 12:15:11 AM It's an intriguing idea, but it sort of seems like a position for the sake of having a position. Maybe the office of Lt. Governor should be tweaked to be made more relevant before we create another one.
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: Oakvale on August 27, 2010, 06:30:11 AM I did consider merging the position with that of the Lieutenant Governor, but take a look at this before passing final judgement. ;)
That's right, it's: In which Oakvale creates an unwieldy bureaucracy, Part II Quote Giving the Lieutenant Governor something to actually do Whereas the Lieutenant Governor's responsibilities are currently vaguely defined and rarely carried out, 1) The Lieutenant Governor is hereby tasked with one job, and one only - to mantain articles on the Atlas Fantasy Wiki (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/) relevant to the Pacific region. 2) These articles include; https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Region https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Governor https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Lt_Governor https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Senator https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Statute https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Second_Pacific_Constitution https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Elected_Officials and others as desginated relevant by the Governor 3) When an event occurs that requires the wiki to be modified, e.g. the passing of a new bill, the election of a new official, etc, the Lieutenant Governor shall be notified and shall edit the relevant article to include the new information as soon as possible. 4) In this way, we can mantain the wiki to keep the information on the Pacific more relevant and up-to-date than much of the wiki. :) I'd originally planned to have the, er, wiki-editor-guy as a seperate position, but it occured to me that a) I could kill two birds with one stone. b) Despite the workload being much less daunting than it appears, it could be hard to find people willing to volunteer to actually do the job. I decided that the most appropriate course of action was to make this the realm of the Lieutenant Governor. Indeed, constitutionally, the Lieutenant Governor is already tasked with doing so, but... yeah. :P Anyway, I'm obviously open to tweaking the two bills, so fire away. :) PS: I don't necessarily agree that the Justice's job is 'a position for the sake of a having a position', especially since it automatically reviews laws, but I do agree that we should probably work out what the Lt. Governor's going to do first. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on August 27, 2010, 08:49:39 PM As Lt. Governor I am willing to do whatever you want to give me. So yes, please make my position relevant before making a new one.;)
Also, I'd be willing to do both jobs as maintaining the Wiki isn't something that needs to be done as much as reviewing laws, and I'd like to feel useful until I end up in another position (I was thinking about running for Senate) or I get defeated in an election. It just feels like I'm not doing enough for the region, and I'd be happy to have more on my plate.:) Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: Oakvale on August 29, 2010, 03:53:50 PM As Lt. Governor I am willing to do whatever you want to give me. So yes, please make my position relevant before making a new one.;) Also, I'd be willing to do both jobs as maintaining the Wiki isn't something that needs to be done as much as reviewing laws, and I'd like to feel useful until I end up in another position (I was thinking about running for Senate) or I get defeated in an election. It just feels like I'm not doing enough for the region, and I'd be happy to have more on my plate.:) I'm going to go ahead and introduce the "Giving The Lieutenant Governor something to actually do" amendment. :P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale - AMENDMENT TIME Post by: Oakvale on September 17, 2010, 09:44:24 AM Just a quick update -
1) I've been somewhat dormant in Atlasia in the last week or so, but fear not, I'm still technically alive. 2) The Eight Amendment to the Pacific Constitution (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Second_Pacific_Constitution#Eighth_Amendment), in which we gave the Lieutenant Governor something to actually do, passed the legislature handily. The explicit role of the Lieutenant Governor is now to mantain wiki articles relevant to our region. To his eternal credit, the Lt. Governor has got to work at an impressive and admirable pace - at this rate our "parts" of the wiki will be by far the best organised and up-to-date there are. It seems like a minor thing, and maybe it is, but the wiki's in such a permanent mess that I think it's a good idea to have a position like this - it's working very well so far. :) 3) I've registered in Alaska for no real reason. Just to let you all know. 4) Finally, and most importantly, I'm currently tweaking my proposal to resurrect the position of a Pacific Justice, albeit in (hopefully!) a reformed and hopefully more practical form. There's been suggestions to merge this position, also, with that of the Lieutenant Governor's, and I see the logic in that, but I'm cautious on making it a political, elected position. Still, I'm obvious open to compromise on this, and I should have the latest draft of the amendment posted in a few days for debate. :) Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on September 17, 2010, 04:11:22 PM Some other stuff -
It's election season in the Mideast, so I'll make some irrelevant endorsements. :P In the Governor's race, the region has a difficult choice between two good candidates, but I'm endorsing the incumbent, Governor tmthforu. He's doing a great job, IMO, and is easily one of the most active Governors in the nation. :) In the Assembly, it's more or less moot since there are as many candidates as there are seats, although I would give special mention to Barnes. That said, the other candidates aren't exactly shabby. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: tmthforu94 on September 17, 2010, 06:29:45 PM Thank you, Mr. Oakvale! :) You're doing a great job as well.
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Barnes on September 19, 2010, 10:34:31 PM Thank you, Oakvale! That was very kind of you! :)
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on September 24, 2010, 09:01:53 AM Firstly, I'd like to congratulate my gubernatorial colleague on his landslide re-election victory, and my friend Barnes on his own election to the Assembly. I think we can, as a region, learn a lot from the Mideast, some of which I mention below. :)
Secondly, here's the new and improved draft of my amendment establishing a - hopefully - useful "Pacific Justice" position. Quote Establishing the position of "Pacific Justice" Whereas there is currently no constitutional overview of laws passed by the legislature, 1. The position of Pacific Justice is hereby established. 2. The Pacific Justice shall be appointed by the Governor for a life term, and subject to confirmation by a plurality vote of the Pacific legislature. 3. The role of the Justice will be as follows: - To automatically review each piece of legislation passed by the legislature to confirm whether it is constitutional in accordance with the Constitution of the Pacific region. In the event that the Justice finds the legislation in question unconstitutional, the law in question will be struck down. o The Justice may, in addition, ask the legislature to modify the legislation in question to bring it in line with the regional Constitution, before it is passed, subject to the discretion of the Justice. - To refer legislation to the Atlasian Supreme Court, specifically in cases where the legislation in question does not violate Pacific law but does violate federal law. - To determine whether an elected official has committed unconstitutional offenses. Whether these offenses constitute grounds for impeachment/recall shall, however, remain the decision of the legislature. 4. The Justice may be impeached by the legislature for misconduct in the following way: 1) A citizen may propose that the Justice be impeached. 2) If this petition receives no less than five signatures from other citizens of the Pacific - or, as with legislation, the signature of the Governor - within one week of proposal, it may be voted on by the legislature as with regular legislation and elections. 3) A two-thirds majority shall be necessary for the impeachment petition to be successful. 4) In the event that the impeachment process is successful, the Justice shall immediately cease to hold office, and the Governor must name a replacement, again subject to confirmation by plurality vote of the Pacific Legislature. 5) Vaguely-relatedcaveat-to-clarify-something-from-the-Eight-Amendment: The Governor shall be responsible for supervising all elections in the Pacific, and tallying the votes in such. If the Governor's integrity or objectivity comes under question, the Justice may ask the Governor to relinquish this duty, and supervise the election his/herself. NB: I'm more than willing to consider an elected position rather than appointed one, although my instinct is to introduce the current version as is. If it passes, great, if it fails, I'll start tweaking it to make it more acceptable. :) _____________________________________________________ But, much more significantly, there's a bigger conversation I want to have - namely, I want to discuss - discuss! - the possibility of introducing an elected legislature to the region, whether as an "upper house" or a total replacement of our current popular legislature. As I see it, an elected legislature carries with it a major advantage - regular elections would greatly increase activity and interest in regional politics - we've seen it in the Northeast and Mideast, for example - and, really, that's my objective as Governor - to make the Pacific active, lively, and, above all, interesting. :P So yeah, there's the Justice amendment I plan on introducing, but, more to the point, an elected legislature? What say you? :) PS: Naturally, if the Justice position is created, I'll immediately introduce a ton of unconstitutional laws just to liven things up a bit. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on September 24, 2010, 06:56:22 PM Boo, you didn't merge the positions.:P
Nevertheless, I still support the initiative. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: tmthforu94 on September 24, 2010, 07:08:22 PM Thank you Oakvale! And good for you, introducing this. :) I hope it passes.
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on September 24, 2010, 07:25:14 PM Boo, you didn't merge the positions.:P Nevertheless, I still support the initiative. Well, it may easily fail to pass, and if so I'll happily merge the positions, so it's not over yet. :P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on September 30, 2010, 10:08:46 AM Just to re-iterate, voting (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.new#new) has been open on my latest ill-advised governmental restructuring amendment (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=116254.msg2660070#msg2660070) for the last couple of days, so you should all pop into the legislature and prompty vote it down. ;)
No, but seriously, it's a good bill, and will hopefully make our region a little more interesting. :) More to the point, once we get this out of the way we can move on my most important, and interesting idea - a (partially or fully) elected legislature, and the merits or lack thereof of such a thing. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on October 07, 2010, 03:00:49 PM My Presidential polling (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=125492.0) complete, I can, at least until I do another poll, put aside objectivity and loudly, publicly, and enthusiastically endorse the Fritz/Kalwejt ticket in this month's Presidential election.
I may be a member of the JCP, but it's still not an easy decision. It's not like the last time, when there was a clear choice between competence in the form of Purple State and shrieking nonsense in the form of RossettaStone's absurd campaign. I like and respect both AndrewCT and Duke, and I'm confident that, if elected, they'd do a fine job. But, alas, I disagree with the central message of Andrew's campaign - that the Constitutional Convention has been a failure. Now, I agree that Purple State's Presidency hasn't magically reawakened mass interest in the game, but that was never going to happen. The Constitutional Convention had quite modest ambitions - maybe too modest for some, I concede - but its goals were sound. Making the Constitution more legible to newbies is a noble aim, and I for one applaud the administration for their work. We have a good choice this election, and my backing of Fritz and Kalwejt is no slight to Andrew and Duke, two fine public servants. Yes, all candidates are, to use Atlas lingo, "FF"s. But the choice doesn't come down to personality, or even ideology. I don't care that Fritz is in the JCP, or that Andrew's in the Populares. That's irrelevant. It comes down to the three simple words that are my guiding philosophy as Governor, and I believe should be the mantra of any new President - activity, activity, activity. (:P) Why do I believe Fritz is in a better position to promote activity than Andrew? It's simple. Fritz has been a fantastic and diligent RG, and he's stated that his dream is to have two hundred votes regularly cast in Atlasian elections. I think that's the kind of future we can look forward to under a Fritz administration, and that's why I'm going to be voting for him. :) - Oakvale Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: tmthforu94 on October 07, 2010, 03:08:45 PM I'll take a line from the West Virginia Republican's playbook...
Fritz is an outstanding RG. We couldn't survive if we lost him in that position. He will get plagued down and swamped as President, and will take orders from Bgwah and Marokai Blue. AndrewCT is a true reformer. He won't be a rubber-stamp to Bgwah, and will fight for you, the average Atlasian. This month, vote for change. Vote for AndrewCT/Duke. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on October 17, 2010, 03:17:42 PM Hey everybody!
Firstly, congratulations to fuzzbigfoot on being confirmed as Pacific Justice. I'm confident he'll do a wonderful job. :) Secondly, I'd like to draw your attention to the Pacific Voting Booth (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=126196.0), where we're ratifying the documents produced by the Constitutional Convention. Of course, I'd urge all to vote in favour of these much-needed reforms, but regardless of how you vote, please do vote. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on October 19, 2010, 07:24:32 AM In a fairly minor but, I think, pretty useful move, I've added some basic information about the region to the first post of this thread. I'd suggest that other Governors do the same - it might help new people get an idea of the place. :P
General information Introduction to Atlasia (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=95897.0) Offices Office of the Governor (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=116254.0), Oakvale (...) Office of the Lieutenant Governor (http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=121349.0), ArchangelZero. The Pacific Court (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=126205.msg2686006#msg2686006), headed by Justice fuzzybigfoot Articles on the wiki: The Pacific (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Region) Our laws (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Statute) The Pacific Constitution (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Second_Pacific_Constitution) Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on October 19, 2010, 08:45:38 AM Oh, also, I made an admittedly tongue-in-cheek attack ad against Naso/Reganfan. :P
"Excessive Hyperbole" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1oZ9BJJC7Y). Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on October 25, 2010, 06:39:22 AM I'd like to extend my warmest congratulations to Fritz and Kalwejt on their stunning upset of a victory (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=126487.0). I wasn't the only JCPer who assumed AndrewCT would sail to a landslide, so this is a surprise - even with the race getting close, I assumed Andrew would pull out a second round victory. So, impressive, guys, very impressive. :)
I'm confident President Fritz and Vice-President Kalwejt will continue the great work of President Purple State, one of Atlasia's best statesmen, whose reforms I was happy to sign the ratification (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=126196.0) of - a unanimous vote in favour of the Third Constitution from the Pacific, for the record. Purple State leaves a wonderful legacy, and history will view his government very favourably indeed. So congratulations, Fritz and Kalwejt, and commiserations to Andrew and Duke - frankly, I would have been happy with either result. Atlasia had a good choice this election. :) EDIT: Oh, and I'd also like to extend my preemptive congratulations to my soon-to-be gubernatorial colleague - in the Northeast, Han looks sure to be elected, and hopefully he can restore activity and life to that region. We don't necessarily agree politically, but he has my full, if irrelevant, support. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 01, 2010, 04:03:12 PM Egads! We've moved!
Welcome to the Regional Board everyone! It's an idea that's been kicking around for a while, but recently Governors Tmthforu, Han, PiT, Sewer and I messaged President-elect Fritz with a request for him to ask Dave to create a dedicated regional forum, and, in a great development, here we are. :) I think this will make regional business a lot easier to attend to, without the clutter that we usually get in the Fantasy Elections forum. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 01:26:17 AM We're supposed to be running for re-election pretty soon, aren't we?:P
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 06:10:04 AM We're supposed to be running for re-election pretty soon, aren't we?:P December, AFAIK. :P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 20, 2010, 11:52:44 AM So, uh, hey guys. Archangel and I have been discussing the possibility of an elected legislature.
*ducks rotten fruit* No, no - hear me out - there are advantages. First and foremost, I think we all know that it would increase interest and activity - although the regional board seems to have greatly improved our activity levels - if I don't say so myself, although I also think the Pacific Justice deserves a lot of credit for stirring things up every now and again. ;) It's important to note that our idea wouldn't replace our current, popular, assembly, which has served us well. Rather it would establish a - very! - small "upper house". In other words, a bicarmeal legislature, the first of its kind in Atlasia. :) It would probably consist of there or so members, elected, of course, by popular vote. This chamber, which we've cheesily decided to call the "Council", will be in charge of introducing and approving legislation, which must then be referred to the popular assembly. Kind of like a reverse version of the US Congress. :P It would also have to approve any impeachment proceedings. Anyway, let me know what you think - we've got a rudimentary bill worked out which I'll be posting shortly, so if you've got any ideas we're more than receptive. :) PS: If this passes I will have, er, expanded government, by a hilarious degree and fully expect to be defeated for re-election by some kind of right-wing challenger. ;D Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 21, 2010, 10:26:59 AM Here's the first draft of the bill for you to critique:
Quote Whereas the Pacific Region has not had an organized legislation, this amendment hereby establishes a bicarmeal legislative body known as the Pacific Council and Pacific Assembly. Regarding the Pacific Council: 1.) The Pacific Council will be in charge of drafting and approving legislation for ratification. All legislation must by approved by the council by a simple majority. 2.) It will be in charge of approving impeachment proceedings during specific circumstances. All impeachment hearings are to be approved unanimously by the members of the Council. 3.) The Council shall be composed of three members, to be elected via instant runoff voting. The three candidates that recieve the most votes will compose the council. All candidates must have at least 100 posts and have been living in the Pacific Region for at least 20 days. 4.) Each council member's term will last for four months. At which time, another election for the Council will be called. No council member can serve more than three terms consecutively. The term of each council member will begin and end the Friday following a Council election. Regarding the Pacific Assembly: 1.) The Pacific Assembly will be in charge of voting and ratifying all legislation. It will also be in charge of beginning impeachment proceedings. All impeachments proceedings must be approved by 2/3rds of the vote. All legislation may be ratified with a simple majority. 2.) The Pacific Assembly will be composed of the citizens of the Pacific Region. The Assembly will not have elections as every citizen is part of the assembly from the moment they become naturalized in the Pacific. Regarding Legislation: 1.) The Pacific Council will draft legislation for the region. It can also take bills proposed by citizens and approve the legislation for the Assembly to vote on. 2.) The Council must have a majority vote in order to allow legislation to move to the Assembly. 3.) The Assembly will vote to ratify all legislation that is proposed by the Council. A majority is required to ratify any legislation. 4.) The executive branch may veto legislation. However, the Council and Assembly can override this veto with a 2/3rds majority. 5.) Should the Pacific Justice find any legislation passed unconstitutional, they must strike the law down with their banhammer of justice. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 23, 2010, 12:29:19 AM Please critique this bill so we may make improvements on it. All suggestions are welcome.:)
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: CatoMinor on November 23, 2010, 12:37:10 PM It looks pretty good, unsure about the term limits though, and the long length of their terms. Also for the override I think the council should need 3/3's vote in order to move on with an override as 2/3 is the simple majority needed to pass a bill in the first place.
Other than that I think this is a really good idea :) Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 23, 2010, 02:09:28 PM It looks pretty good, unsure about the term limits though, and the long length of their terms. Also for the override I think the council should need 3/3's vote in order to move on with an override as 2/3 is the simple majority needed to pass a bill in the first place. Other than that I think this is a really good idea :) Good points, which I hope can be addressed with my suggestion from the Legislature thread: I like the bill except for the term limits, for which I don't really see the point. Also, the way Councilors are elected isn't very clear. I thought about that myself after looking at our draft. Maybe we could have one seat up for election say, every two months and each seat would have a six month term (after our first election, maybe two seats can volunteer for shorter terms so we can get the ball rolling)? And use IRV for each election? I'm hoping we can get this passed before the end of the month so we can have elections in December along with Governor and Lt. Governor. Also, the term limits won't be permanent. You're just out for however long you serve, then after that time period is up you can run again. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 23, 2010, 07:04:20 PM Just an aside, Archangel and I will be seeking re-election to a second term as Governor and Lieutenant Governor next month.
I think we've done a pretty good job at increasing the level of activity in the region, and I can point to the regional board, the Pacific Justice position, and, hopefully, a new legislature, as evidence of our commitment to the region. The legislature has become a place of spirited debate, due in no small part to the arrival of the always-welcome Jbrase, and to the brilliant activity of the wonderful Pacific Justice, fuzzybigfoot, and I'm optimistic that the region will continue to grown in activity in the coming months. Activity is, and will always remain, the core value of my administration. Serving as Governor has been a privelege and a great experience, and I hope you can let me continue for another term. As for my Lieutenant Governor, ArchangelZero has been a true friend and a staunch ally these last few months. You couldn't ask for a more dedicated, innovative public servant, and he deserves every vote he can get. The Pacific will be a poorer place when he inevitably moves on to the national stage. ;) Thank you. :) - oakvale PS: Oh, right, I forgot. Vote for me. Thanks. :P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: bgwah on November 23, 2010, 08:22:01 PM Hmm, I dunno, it sounds intriguing. It might be worth trying at least. We could also revert to the old style of legislature if we didn't like it.
I would prefer you scrap the term limits part though (what a surprise!! :P) ;D Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Ebowed on November 24, 2010, 04:32:10 AM Hmm, I dunno, it sounds intriguing. It might be worth trying at least. The other regions have done that for us, IMO. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 24, 2010, 09:34:47 AM Hmm, I dunno, it sounds intriguing. It might be worth trying at least. The other regions have done that for us, IMO. Well true, but this is a weird kind of legislature, designed specifically with the Pacific in mind. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: bgwah on November 24, 2010, 11:15:56 PM Our legislature needs a cool name, though. Supreme Council, for example. ;D
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 25, 2010, 05:48:08 AM Our legislature needs a cool name, though. Supreme Council, for example. ;D Good thinking, but I feel like Supreme has been trademarked by the Southeast.:P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: CatoMinor on November 25, 2010, 12:26:19 PM Our legislature needs a cool name, though. Supreme Council, for example. ;D Good thinking, but I feel like Supreme has been trademarked by the Emperor Lord of Darkness The Cultural Revolution of Awesomeness Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: CatoMinor on November 26, 2010, 01:45:25 AM I made a few edits, what do you all think?
Quote Whereas the Pacific Region has not had an organized legislature, this amendment hereby establishes The General Assembly, a bicarmeal legislative body known as the Pacific Council and Pacific Assembly. Regarding the Pacific Council: 1.) The Pacific Council will be in charge of drafting and approving legislation for ratification. All legislation must by approved by the council by a simple majority. 2.) It will be in charge of approving impeachment proceedings during specific circumstances. All impeachment hearings are to be approved unanimously by the members of the Council. 3.) The Council shall be composed of three members, to be elected via instant runoff voting. The three candidates that recieve the most votes will compose the council. All candidates must have at least 100 posts and have been living in the Pacific Region for at least 20 days. 4.) Each council member's term will last for four months. At which time, another election for the Council will be called. No council member can serve more than three terms consecutively. The term of each council member will begin and end the Friday following a Council election. The elections for the Council shall be held in the last week of February, June, and September. 5.) Should a vacancy occur the Governor shall nominate a replacement councilor. Regarding the Pacific Assembly: 1.) The Pacific Assembly will be in charge of voting and ratifying all legislation. It will also be in charge of beginning impeachment proceedings. All impeachments proceedings must be approved by 2/3rds of the vote. All legislation may be ratified with a simple majority. 2.) The Pacific Assembly will be composed of the citizens of the Pacific Region. The Assembly will not have elections as every citizen is part of the assembly from the moment they become naturalized in the Pacific. Regarding Legislation: 1.) The Pacific Council will draft legislation for the region. It can also take bills proposed by citizens and approve the legislation for the Assembly to vote on. 2.) The Council must have a majority vote in order to allow legislation to move to the Assembly. 3.) The Assembly will vote to ratify all legislation that is proposed by the Council. A majority is required to ratify any legislation. 4.) The executive branch may veto legislation. However, the Council and Assembly can override this veto with a 3/3rds majority. 5.) Should the Pacific Justice find any legislation passed unconstitutional, they must strike the law down with their banhammer of justice. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 27, 2010, 04:48:15 PM I made a few edits, what do you all think? Quote Whereas the Pacific Region has not had an organized legislature, this amendment hereby establishes The General Assembly, a bicarmeal legislative body known as the Pacific Council and Pacific Assembly. Regarding the Pacific Council: 1.) The Pacific Council will be in charge of drafting and approving legislation for ratification. All legislation must by approved by the council by a simple majority. 2.) It will be in charge of approving impeachment proceedings during specific circumstances. All impeachment hearings are to be approved unanimously by the members of the Council. 3.) The Council shall be composed of three members, to be elected via instant runoff voting. The three candidates that recieve the most votes will compose the council. All candidates must have at least 100 posts and have been living in the Pacific Region for at least 20 days. 4.) Each council member's term will last for four months. At which time, another election for the Council will be called. No council member can serve more than three terms consecutively. The term of each council member will begin and end the Friday following a Council election. The elections for the Council shall be held in the last week of February, April, June, September, and December. 5.) Should a vacancy occur the Governor shall nominate a replacement councilor.[/b] Regarding the Pacific Assembly: 1.) The Pacific Assembly will be in charge of voting and ratifying all legislation. It will also be in charge of beginning impeachment proceedings. All impeachments proceedings must be approved by 2/3rds of the vote. All legislation may be ratified with a simple majority. 2.) The Pacific Assembly will be composed of the citizens of the Pacific Region. The Assembly will not have elections as every citizen is part of the assembly from the moment they become naturalized in the Pacific. Regarding Legislation: 1.) The Pacific Council will draft legislation for the region. It can also take bills proposed by citizens and approve the legislation for the Assembly to vote on. 2.) The Council must have a majority vote in order to allow legislation to move to the Assembly. 3.) The Assembly will vote to ratify all legislation that is proposed by the Council. A majority is required to ratify any legislation. 4.) The executive branch may veto legislation. However, the Council and Assembly can override this veto with a 3/3rds majority. 5.) Should the Pacific Justice find any legislation passed unconstitutional, they must strike the law down with their banhammer of justice. I like these changes. However, I believe we should try to decide whether all Councilors will be elected at once or if we're going to have one seat open every two months. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on November 27, 2010, 05:06:23 PM I made a few edits, what do you all think? Quote Whereas the Pacific Region has not had an organized legislature, this amendment hereby establishes The General Assembly, a bicarmeal legislative body known as the Pacific Council and Pacific Assembly. Regarding the Pacific Council: 1.) The Pacific Council will be in charge of drafting and approving legislation for ratification. All legislation must by approved by the council by a simple majority. 2.) It will be in charge of approving impeachment proceedings during specific circumstances. All impeachment hearings are to be approved unanimously by the members of the Council. 3.) The Council shall be composed of three members, to be elected via instant runoff voting. The three candidates that recieve the most votes will compose the council. All candidates must have at least 100 posts and have been living in the Pacific Region for at least 20 days. 4.) Each council member's term will last for four months. At which time, another election for the Council will be called. No council member can serve more than three terms consecutively. The term of each council member will begin and end the Friday following a Council election. The elections for the Council shall be held in the last week of February, June, and September. 5.) Should a vacancy occur the Governor shall nominate a replacement councilor. Regarding the Pacific Assembly: 1.) The Pacific Assembly will be in charge of voting and ratifying all legislation. It will also be in charge of beginning impeachment proceedings. All impeachments proceedings must be approved by 2/3rds of the vote. All legislation may be ratified with a simple majority. 2.) The Pacific Assembly will be composed of the citizens of the Pacific Region. The Assembly will not have elections as every citizen is part of the assembly from the moment they become naturalized in the Pacific. Regarding Legislation: 1.) The Pacific Council will draft legislation for the region. It can also take bills proposed by citizens and approve the legislation for the Assembly to vote on. 2.) The Council must have a majority vote in order to allow legislation to move to the Assembly. 3.) The Assembly will vote to ratify all legislation that is proposed by the Council. A majority is required to ratify any legislation. 4.) The executive branch may veto legislation. However, the Council and Assembly can override this veto with a 3/3rds majority. 5.) Should the Pacific Justice find any legislation passed unconstitutional, they must strike the law down with their banhammer of justice. I like these changes. However, I believe we should try to decide whether all Councilors will be elected at once or if we're going to have one seat open every two months. A 100% majority to override the governor's veto? This really gives the executive branch way too much power. No offense to the executive branch. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 27, 2010, 07:30:27 PM I made a few edits, what do you all think? Quote Whereas the Pacific Region has not had an organized legislature, this amendment hereby establishes The General Assembly, a bicarmeal legislative body known as the Pacific Council and Pacific Assembly. Regarding the Pacific Council: 1.) The Pacific Council will be in charge of drafting and approving legislation for ratification. All legislation must by approved by the council by a simple majority. 2.) It will be in charge of approving impeachment proceedings during specific circumstances. All impeachment hearings are to be approved unanimously by the members of the Council. 3.) The Council shall be composed of three members, to be elected via instant runoff voting. The three candidates that recieve the most votes will compose the council. All candidates must have at least 100 posts and have been living in the Pacific Region for at least 20 days. 4.) Each council member's term will last for four months. At which time, another election for the Council will be called. No council member can serve more than three terms consecutively. The term of each council member will begin and end the Friday following a Council election. The elections for the Council shall be held in the last week of February, June, and September. 5.) Should a vacancy occur the Governor shall nominate a replacement councilor. Regarding the Pacific Assembly: 1.) The Pacific Assembly will be in charge of voting and ratifying all legislation. It will also be in charge of beginning impeachment proceedings. All impeachments proceedings must be approved by 2/3rds of the vote. All legislation may be ratified with a simple majority. 2.) The Pacific Assembly will be composed of the citizens of the Pacific Region. The Assembly will not have elections as every citizen is part of the assembly from the moment they become naturalized in the Pacific. Regarding Legislation: 1.) The Pacific Council will draft legislation for the region. It can also take bills proposed by citizens and approve the legislation for the Assembly to vote on. 2.) The Council must have a majority vote in order to allow legislation to move to the Assembly. 3.) The Assembly will vote to ratify all legislation that is proposed by the Council. A majority is required to ratify any legislation. 4.) The executive branch may veto legislation. However, the Council and Assembly can override this veto with a 3/3rds majority. 5.) Should the Pacific Justice find any legislation passed unconstitutional, they must strike the law down with their banhammer of justice. I like these changes. However, I believe we should try to decide whether all Councilors will be elected at once or if we're going to have one seat open every two months. A 100% majority to override the governor's veto? This really gives the executive branch way too much power. No offense to the executive branch. Bwahahahahaha! But yeah, that seems a little strange. The rest of Jbrase's changes are fairly reasonable, though. So, what does everyone think of Archangel's proposal that Senators be elected seperately, every two months? It might liven things up a bit. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: CatoMinor on November 28, 2010, 01:11:30 AM Well since the Council only needs 2 votes to pass something doesn't it seem weird to only require 2 votes to override a veto?
And the only problem I have with having the councilor seats elected at separate times is that it would be too easy for one group, the extreme far-left wing of the JCP, to win every seat. But if they were all at once then it would give the more moderate people a chance. The likely results would be a healthy mixture of opinions. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: tmthforu94 on November 28, 2010, 10:09:34 AM I would like to add that I believe the Mideast did the same thing back when we only had 3 Assembly seats. It seemed to work pretty well.
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on November 29, 2010, 12:22:20 PM In other news, I was sad to see that the great fuzzybigfoot resigned as Pacific Justice. He did a fantastic job, and should be an example to emulate for his successors. I wish him all the best in his new role as a regional activist.
As for his successor, I'm thrilled to announce the nomination of Antonio V as Pacific Justice. :) Antonio's an active citizen, a former Lieutenant Governor of the region - my predecesor in the job, actually - and I'm confident that he'll live up to the standard set by fuzzy. Incidentally, I'll be tacking on a very minor amendment to the legislature thing - basically, it'll change the term of office of the Justice from a life-long affair to one that lasts four months, renewable indefinitely. In other words, the Justice will be appointed/re-appointed when the Governor takes office. This makes things a little easier for all concerned - it lets a bored Justice exit handily, for a start. :P Obviously, I'll be re-appointing Antonio if he so wishes if I win a second term as Governor. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 29, 2010, 12:53:31 PM Thank you, Mr Governor. I'm proud to accept your appointment. :)
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: CatoMinor on November 29, 2010, 01:04:02 PM Congratulations Antonio :)
Rule well with your Mighty Gavel of Justice. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Dr. Cynic on December 03, 2010, 09:57:10 AM All heads of regional govt's, please check my office (The Internal Affairs office) for important business... Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on December 09, 2010, 03:50:52 PM With election day upon us - I'll be opening the voting booth at 9:00 PM - I thought I'd say a few words about why I think Archangel and I deserve re-election. It's true we're fortunate enough to be running unopposed, but we're not going to take your vote for granted. :)
You may not have agreed with all the things we've done as a team, but I think making the Lieutenant Governor a somewhat useful position, creating the useful and interesting role of Pacific Justice, and - touch wood - breathing new life into the legislature - and my succesful push for a dedicated regional board is work that we as a region can be proud of. I've said time and time again that increasing activity is the goal of my administration, and I think it's fairly evident that we're making major strides in that field. As Governor, I've had a consistent record of putting policy before politics - I've worked closely with my friend and gubernatorial colleague Tmthforu in the Education Caucus, and found myself occasionally siding with the unlikely ally and friend that is Jbrase in the legislature. At the same time, I've worked closely with staunch liberals like Antonio V - who, incidentally, really deserves your vote for the at-large Senate election - and former Justice fuzzybigfoot, and vowed to veto a bill which would restrict a woman's right to choose. Furthermore, I'm greatly looking forward to (hopefully) the new legislature, and can't wait to work with our soon-to-be-elected Councillors. One more thing - I couldn't have done any of what I've achieved without my friend ArchangelZero. A visionary, dedicated public servant, Archangel has quietly and diligently kept the Pacific sections of the wiki updated, taken on the thankless and unforgiving task of drafting the legislature amendment, and I couldn't have asked for a better Lieutenant Governor. It's no exaggeration to say that my administration owes many of its achievements to him. :) So, there you have it - that's my case. Vote Oakvale/ArchangelZero! ;D Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on December 09, 2010, 04:40:02 PM With election day upon us - I'll be opening the voting booth at 9:00 PM - I thought I'd say a few words about why I think Archangel and I deserve re-election. It's true we're fortunate enough to be running unopposed, but we're not going to take your vote for granted. :) You may not have agreed with all the things we've done as a team, but I think making the Lieutenant Governor a somewhat useful position, creating the useful and interesting role of Pacific Justice, and - touch wood - breathing new life into the legislature - and my succesful push for a dedicated regional board is work that we as a region can be proud of. I've said time and time again that increasing activity is the goal of my administration, and I think it's fairly evident that we're making major strides in that field. As Governor, I've had a consistent record of putting policy before politics - I've worked closely with my friend and gubernatorial colleague Tmthforu in the Education Caucus, and found myself occasionally siding with the unlikely ally and friend that is Jbrase in the legislature. At the same time, I've worked closely with staunch liberals like Antonio V - who, incidentally, really deserves your vote for the at-large Senate election - and former Justice fuzzybigfoot, and vowed to veto a bill which would restrict a woman's right to choose. Furthermore, I'm greatly looking forward to (hopefully) the new legislature, and can't wait to work with our soon-to-be-elected Councillors. One more thing - I couldn't have done any of what I've achieved without my friend ArchangelZero. A visionary, dedicated public servant, Archangel has quietly and diligently kept the Pacific sections of the wiki updated, taken on the thankless and unforgiving task of drafting the legislature amendment, and I couldn't have asked for a better Lieutenant Governor. It's no exaggeration to say that my administration owes many of its achievements to him. :) So, there you have it - that's my case. Vote Oakvale/ArchangelZero! ;D Endorsed! Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 10, 2010, 08:55:51 AM With election day upon us - I'll be opening the voting booth at 9:00 PM - I thought I'd say a few words about why I think Archangel and I deserve re-election. It's true we're fortunate enough to be running unopposed, but we're not going to take your vote for granted. :) You may not have agreed with all the things we've done as a team, but I think making the Lieutenant Governor a somewhat useful position, creating the useful and interesting role of Pacific Justice, and - touch wood - breathing new life into the legislature - and my succesful push for a dedicated regional board is work that we as a region can be proud of. I've said time and time again that increasing activity is the goal of my administration, and I think it's fairly evident that we're making major strides in that field. As Governor, I've had a consistent record of putting policy before politics - I've worked closely with my friend and gubernatorial colleague Tmthforu in the Education Caucus, and found myself occasionally siding with the unlikely ally and friend that is Jbrase in the legislature. At the same time, I've worked closely with staunch liberals like Antonio V - who, incidentally, really deserves your vote for the at-large Senate election - and former Justice fuzzybigfoot, and vowed to veto a bill which would restrict a woman's right to choose. Furthermore, I'm greatly looking forward to (hopefully) the new legislature, and can't wait to work with our soon-to-be-elected Councillors. One more thing - I couldn't have done any of what I've achieved without my friend ArchangelZero. A visionary, dedicated public servant, Archangel has quietly and diligently kept the Pacific sections of the wiki updated, taken on the thankless and unforgiving task of drafting the legislature amendment, and I couldn't have asked for a better Lieutenant Governor. It's no exaggeration to say that my administration owes many of its achievements to him. :) So, there you have it - that's my case. Vote Oakvale/ArchangelZero! ;D Endorsed! ^^^ Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on December 10, 2010, 12:22:07 PM Hey everbody,
Voting's now open in the Senate elections, and in the Pacific gubernatorial election (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=129188.msg2749815). Please vote in both! :) Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on December 17, 2010, 12:28:28 PM Quote I, Oakvale, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of Governor of the Pacific, and will, to the best of my ability, preserve protect and defend the Constitution of Atlasia, so help me Dave. Thanks, everybody. On the day the landmark legislature amendment passes, giving a genuinely unique system of government, my second term as Governor begins. All I'll say is that I hope I can be as productive as I've been in my first, and that I'll continue to try my best. :) As for the new Pacific Council - if you want to run, announce now! Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 17, 2010, 05:49:14 PM Congratulation, Mr. Governor ! :)
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on December 18, 2010, 01:10:16 AM I'll run for Pacific Council.
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 18, 2010, 05:30:12 AM I'll run for Pacific Council. Great ! :D Endorsed. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on December 19, 2010, 12:17:03 AM I'll run for Pacific Council. Great ! :D Endorsed. Thanks! :D Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on December 22, 2010, 06:26:18 PM Just a few words -
Well, it's been an eventful few months. I never expected to be Governor, and, indeed, was only elevated to this position by a fluke - Ebowed was appointed to the Supreme Court. I won't be around much in the next few days - busy with the "holidays" - but we've had an unusually active time in the Pacific lately, and I'm very proud that the legislature amendment passed - I couldn't have asked for a better start to what will be my second and final term as Governor. :) So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, Happy Festivus, everyone! :P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on December 25, 2010, 01:26:59 AM Just a few words - Well, it's been an eventful few months. I never expected to be Governor, and, indeed, was only elevated to this position by a fluke - Ebowed was appointed to the Supreme Court. I won't be around much in the next few days - busy with the "holidays" - but we've had an unusually active time in the Pacific lately, and I'm very proud that the legislature amendment passed - I couldn't have asked for a better start to what will be my second and final term as Governor. :) So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, Happy Festivus, everyone! :P EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!!!! :D :D :D Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 09, 2011, 11:12:38 AM Mr Governor, I must bring to your attention that the office of PA Justice is now vacant due to the start of my senatorial term. I wish you good luck finding someone to willing to take the job. ;)
Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on January 09, 2011, 02:34:11 PM Mr Governor, I must bring to your attention that the office of PA Justice is now vacant due to the start of my senatorial term. I wish you good luck finding someone to willing to take the job. ;) Thanks for your dedicated service, Senator, and I'll be appointing a suitable replacement as soon as I recover from my current dose of Black Plague. :P Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on January 11, 2011, 05:31:18 PM My congratulations to our four newly-elected https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=130340]Councilors (http://) ! ;D
realisticidealist, Jbrase, fuzzybigfoot and Xahar never had much of a challenge considering there were only four seats, but we were lucky in that they were all wonderful candidates for the great democratic experiment that is the Council. Check out this map, too - () Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on February 03, 2011, 07:52:16 AM FYI, I'm waiting until after the Presidential election to appoint a replacement Justice, as I am too powerful and lazy to do so before then.
;) Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale Post by: Oakvale on February 11, 2011, 12:07:44 PM Everyone should get into the voting booth ASAP and cast your vote on the Fair Amending Amendment (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=131924.0).
I'll be voting in favour of the amendment - the current procedure is overly strict IMO. Title: Re: Office of Governor Oakvale: Adios, all, and thank you. Post by: Oakvale on March 14, 2011, 01:12:06 PM I've been elected to the Senate, somehow, which means my time as your Governor is over.
I had a lot of fun, and did some work I'm genuinely proud of. It's been a great experience, and I'll miss it. But, hey, I'll be back. ;) I wish Archangel all the best, and I'm confident he'll do a wonderful job. PS: There's a sappier goodbye (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28197.msg2842754#msg2842754) over in the legislature thread. :P |