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Title: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on July 25, 2010, 08:29:30 PM
Please comment and discuss.

But remember, emotions can get heated, so be considerate and polite. 

(NOTE: I also made the Undecided/Neutral category less specific, because most people on this site have an opinion, and it would be kind of pointless to make even more options when only a few people are going to vote.)



Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: memphis on July 25, 2010, 08:52:44 PM
Every time I get paid, money has already been taken to pay for it. I certainly spend plenty of time supporting it. [/smarta$$]


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on July 25, 2010, 09:25:29 PM
Every time I get paid, money has already been taken to pay for it. I certainly spend plenty of time supporting it. [/smarta$$]

     I am paid under the table, so none of it is taken to support the war. ;D


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Bo on July 25, 2010, 10:10:16 PM
No (Dem).


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: cpeeks on July 25, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Bo on July 25, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: cpeeks on July 25, 2010, 10:31:20 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on July 26, 2010, 02:12:30 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on July 26, 2010, 02:44:07 PM
Wow, only one GOPer voted in this.  And there are more independants/other party members than Democrats.  Hmmmmm........


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: k-onmmunist on July 26, 2010, 03:17:46 PM
Nyet (Other)


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: cpeeks on July 26, 2010, 03:34:16 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Free Palestine on July 26, 2010, 04:46:21 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.

But, how you feel about state government in regards to those issues, would shape whether you are a libertarian or a paleocon.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: ?????????? on July 26, 2010, 04:48:09 PM
Yes (other), for violations of the 1991 cease fire.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: cpeeks on July 26, 2010, 04:53:48 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.

But, how you feel about state government in regards to those issues, would shape whether you are a libertarian or a paleocon.

I think the states have the right to make laws concerning those issues not the federal goverment.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Free Palestine on July 26, 2010, 05:32:25 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.

But, how you feel about state government in regards to those issues, would shape whether you are a libertarian or a paleocon.

I think the states have the right to make laws concerning those issues not the federal goverment.

Yeah, but what do you think your state government should do concerning those issues?


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 26, 2010, 06:47:38 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: cpeeks on July 26, 2010, 11:46:44 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.

But, how you feel about state government in regards to those issues, would shape whether you are a libertarian or a paleocon.

I think the states have the right to make laws concerning those issues not the federal goverment.

Yeah, but what do you think your state government should do concerning those issues?

LOL are you asking if i believe in those issues or are you asking what if my state outlaws or allows said things is that ok those are two different issues I will be glad to address either


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Free Palestine on July 27, 2010, 12:57:30 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.

But, how you feel about state government in regards to those issues, would shape whether you are a libertarian or a paleocon.

I think the states have the right to make laws concerning those issues not the federal goverment.

Yeah, but what do you think your state government should do concerning those issues?

LOL are you asking if i believe in those issues or are you asking what if my state outlaws or allows said things is that ok those are two different issues I will be glad to address either

Do you believe that your state, the state you live in, should ban or legalize same-sex marriage?  What about abortion?


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: cpeeks on July 27, 2010, 06:34:09 PM
Ok now were getting into tricky areas. First of we have to decide is marriage a religous institution or is it state sanctioned, because the right wing who profess to want smaller federal goverment are the same ones who want to say its a religous instution and want the federal goverment to ban it. So if it is a religous institution it should be up to the churches and if the church see fit to marry two smae sex people then the state should have to honor it, and thats how I think it should be left up to churches. Me personally I dont care if two people of the ame sex are allowed to marry, so I guess I am for it. As far as abortion goes I am pro-choice and no I do not think my state should ban either.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Free Palestine on July 27, 2010, 09:40:38 PM
Ok now were getting into tricky areas. First of we have to decide is marriage a religous institution or is it state sanctioned, because the right wing who profess to want smaller federal goverment are the same ones who want to say its a religous instution and want the federal goverment to ban it. So if it is a religous institution it should be up to the churches and if the church see fit to marry two smae sex people then the state should have to honor it, and thats how I think it should be left up to churches. Me personally I dont care if two people of the ame sex are allowed to marry, so I guess I am for it. As far as abortion goes I am pro-choice and no I do not think my state should ban either.

Ah, then you're a libertarian.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Goldwater on August 07, 2010, 08:12:42 PM
Undecided (I).


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 22, 2011, 05:45:51 PM
Bump.

Opposed since very start (other).


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: courts on September 22, 2011, 06:07:42 PM
consider my self somewhat of a liberterian,  and absolutely not

I thought you were a paleoconservative?

Um I guess I do line up more with paleoconservatives now that you pointed it out and I just read what there all about, but there are things I am very libertarian on especially social issues.

     Social issues are the biggest bone of contention between libertarians & paleoconservatives, though.

Ya like i dont think the federal goverment has the right to get into things like abortion, gay marriages, or medical marijuana.

But, how you feel about state government in regards to those issues, would shape whether you are a libertarian or a paleocon.

If you don't believe in the 'Non Aggression Principle' you are by definition not libertarian, going by their own litmus test. Of course going by such an incredibly strict standard means 90-99% of people will never be considered (or want to identify) as 'libertarian.' But then this is the same group of people that think having a government-owned statue for a mascot makes sense.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: angus on September 25, 2011, 08:33:39 PM
No.  I posted here when it began that it was going to be a costly and bloody quagmire, and I continue to hold that position today.  Moreover, we have succeeded in our goal of disrupting a stable dictatorship and assassinating that dictator and members of his family.  Time to come home.  


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Cincinnatus on September 25, 2011, 08:36:59 PM
Absolutely not.  Needless and costly war that served no purpose to our national interests.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on September 25, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
When it started? Now?


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on September 25, 2011, 11:10:35 PM
Why?
The question seems almost moot at this point.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on October 14, 2011, 08:49:34 PM
No (GOP) it goes against Just War Doctrine.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 14, 2011, 09:23:50 PM
Absolutely (D)


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Torie on October 22, 2011, 02:34:25 PM
The Iraqis in effect kicked us out, because they would not give our remaining 3k-5K trumps that were to stay as sitting ducks, and maybe get caught up in the ensuing cross fire, immunity. So no, I don't support "the war."  The war is over, until it begins again, presumably the next time without the US being front and center.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Brandon H on October 22, 2011, 10:28:37 PM
Ok now were getting into tricky areas. First of we have to decide is marriage a religous institution or is it state sanctioned, because the right wing who profess to want smaller federal goverment are the same ones who want to say its a religous instution and want the federal goverment to ban it. So if it is a religous institution it should be up to the churches and if the church see fit to marry two smae sex people then the state should have to honor it, and thats how I think it should be left up to churches. Me personally I dont care if two people of the ame sex are allowed to marry, so I guess I am for it. As far as abortion goes I am pro-choice and no I do not think my state should ban either.

Ah, then you're a libertarian.

It takes a lot more than one's position on abortion and marriage to determine or disqualify one as being a libertarian.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on October 27, 2011, 02:15:06 PM
No, I opposed it even as a 12 year old.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: © tweed on October 27, 2011, 02:20:45 PM

I did too.  while buying goods at Dunkin Donuts.  the contradictions abound.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: courts on October 28, 2011, 05:16:26 AM

You mean when you were 37.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: The Mikado on October 29, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
What does this question even mean anymore?


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on October 29, 2011, 11:18:08 PM
Do I support it in the sense I believe we were justified to act and did the right thing?  Yes, absolutely.

Would I have supported it knowing that we would sacrifice 4,000 young men and women and put our country deeply in debt?  No.

Not sure how to answer this question.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on October 29, 2011, 11:34:01 PM

Would I have supported it knowing that we would sacrifice 4,000 young men and women and put our country deeply in debt?  No.
It's a war. That goes with the territory. It could have gone worse in terms of US/coalition military casualties. Much worse.  Imagine if Saddam had WMD's and decided to use them when attacked!


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on October 30, 2011, 12:17:15 AM

Would I have supported it knowing that we would sacrifice 4,000 young men and women and put our country deeply in debt?  No.
It's a war. That goes with the territory. It could have gone worse in terms of US/coalition military casualties. Much worse.  Imagine if Saddam had WMD's and decided to use them when attacked!

I think most Americans had the vision that the war in Iraq would be more like the first Gulf war rather than more like Vietnam.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: courts on October 30, 2011, 02:05:55 AM

Would I have supported it knowing that we would sacrifice 4,000 young men and women and put our country deeply in debt?  No.
It's a war. That goes with the territory. It could have gone worse in terms of US/coalition military casualties. Much worse.  Imagine if Saddam had WMD's and decided to use them when attacked!

I think most Americans had the vision that the war in Iraq would be more like the first Gulf war rather than more like Vietnam.

Daddy Bush didn't see it that way though.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 30, 2011, 06:16:59 AM
I didn't support it before it started (because even as a Uni student I knew the WMD argument was utter bollocks - but I'm very much a 'you broke it, you bought it' guy. We had a responsibility to stay until the regime change we helped bring about was relatively stable.


Title: Re: Do you support the Iraq war? VOTE BY PARTY CATEGORIES
Post by: © tweed on October 30, 2011, 04:39:23 PM

the false date of birth was Oct 27 1966, so I suppose I was 36.