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Title: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Rowan on October 21, 2010, 08:52:23 AM
OR-05 SurveyUSA

Bruun(R): 51%
Schrader(D-Inc): 41%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=822410a8-9257-4e74-b365-f6d24b6f3eb4


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: redcommander on October 21, 2010, 09:06:29 AM
DAYYYYUUUMMMMNNNNNN!!!!


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: minionofmidas on October 21, 2010, 09:07:40 AM
That's quite a lead.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on October 21, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
Bruun's last released internal had this at..

Moore Information (R) for Scott Bruun (10/13-14, likely voters, no trendlines):
Kurt Schrader (D-inc): 40
Scott Bruun: 44
(MoE: ±5.7%)

Which makes this a pretty shocking poll from SUSA. Could be an outlier.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 21, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
I have a hard time believing this without confirmation from another independent poll.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Brittain33 on October 21, 2010, 09:39:30 AM
Someone raised an issue with SUSA WA polls that their LV screen asks questions about polling places that don't apply in states with universal mail-in voting and can result in wonky numbers. Anyone know if that's true?


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Sam Spade on October 21, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
Just fwiw, in 2008, SUSA leaned Democratic in both OR-Pres (3 points), OR-Sen (4 points) and OR-05, but within MOE (actually OR-05 was slightly out of MOE - 6 points).  In 2004, SUSA leaned slightly Republican (1 point) in OR-Pres.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Sam Spade on October 21, 2010, 10:32:44 AM
Meant to add - both committees have been spending heavily here, especially Dems.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Torie on October 21, 2010, 10:40:23 AM
I wonder why this CD in particular is swinging so hard. Did the government workers in Salem think that they did not get enough money out of the stimulus bill or something?  :)


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on October 21, 2010, 10:49:34 AM
Remember that SurveyUSA showed also Murray trailing badly when everybody else showed the opposite.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: bgwah on October 21, 2010, 01:30:32 PM
It's a swing district with a freshman incumbent (ie the kind of district that would flip). I don't know about that margin, but I could definitely see it flipping.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Brittain33 on October 21, 2010, 01:57:29 PM
OSU (enrollment: about 20,000) is in this district, although weirdly, Corvallis is split.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on October 21, 2010, 02:54:45 PM
Even if it be an outlier, that's a big enough lead (and from a good enough pollster) for this to = deep trouble.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: rob in cal on October 21, 2010, 04:15:43 PM
Also, for once there is a third party candidate from the left, the Pacific Greens, who is winning 2% of the vote, and his support rises the further leftward you go on the political scale, according to the crosstabs (of course based on a tiny sample of voters).


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on October 21, 2010, 05:28:25 PM
44% Republican/37% Democratic/18% Independent ?

It seems to be a little too Republican to me. Not to mention it shows voters in this district having a favorable opinion of the Tea Party and having more Conservatives than Moderates, with only 19% being Liberal, which seems strange for a district including Corvallis and Salem. Nonetheless this poll is bad news.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Vepres on October 21, 2010, 05:32:49 PM
Well, Bush did win the district twice.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Meeker on October 21, 2010, 06:09:21 PM
Schrader leads 47-46 amongst those who have already voted (10%).

*Obligatory crosstabs disclaimer*


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on October 21, 2010, 07:46:26 PM
Well, Bush did win the district twice.
The registration edge for Democrats in this district is D+5...


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Mr.Phips on October 21, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Interesting, because even Republican internals have Schrader only down within the margin of error. 


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 22, 2010, 12:02:08 AM
If Kitzhaber wins with the Dem-controlled legislature, I would imagine there will be an effort to make this seat safe for Schrader or alternatively to give it back to him.  Is there such potential with the Oregon map?


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Dgov on October 22, 2010, 03:53:41 AM
If Kitzhaber wins with the Dem-controlled legislature, I would imagine there will be an effort to make this seat safe for Schrader or alternatively to give it back to him.  Is there such potential with the Oregon map?

Yes, but it basically involves the 3-way split of Portland.  In other words, ugly maps.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: minionofmidas on October 22, 2010, 09:00:54 AM
I wonder why this CD in particular is swinging so hard.
It's not actually a heavily Democratic district or anything. Also, Salem is just an older centre within the Portland exurbs.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on October 22, 2010, 09:46:57 AM
I wonder why this CD in particular is swinging so hard.
It's not actually a heavily Democratic district or anything. Also, Salem is just an older centre within the Portland exurbs.

Yeah. Up till 2006 it was always flagged up as a longshot possibility for the Republicans.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: Nichlemn on October 23, 2010, 04:01:19 AM
As a D+5 state with 5 districts, it's difficult to make four safely Democratic seats. Unless OR-2 can be made a fair bit more Republican, you've got 30 points of Democratic lean to distribute amongst four districts. That's an average of D+7.5, but you'd have to have a fair bit of variance in them unless you want to do some serious gerrymandering.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: minionofmidas on October 23, 2010, 04:07:03 AM
...which Oregon does not do. They've got laws in that part of the United States.


Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on October 23, 2010, 07:52:51 AM
And yet with their laws OR-05 still looks gerrymandered:

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Title: Re: OR-05: SurveyUSA: Schrader down big
Post by: minionofmidas on October 23, 2010, 07:55:57 AM
I'd forgotten that it has that coastal strip. Just didn't know where else to put those two counties, I suppose.