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Title: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on October 21, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION OF SENATE AND HOUSE ELECTION RESULTS FOR THE 2010 ELECTION ONLY.

Results links:

Associated Press (http://www.ap.org/elections2010/)

CNN (House) (http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/main.results/#val=H)

CNN (Senate) (http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/main.results/#val=S)

New York Times (House) (http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/house)

New York Times (Senate) (http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/senate)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Silent Hunter on November 02, 2010, 05:00:22 PM
OK, people, here we go...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 05:04:54 PM
Yep....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 05:06:35 PM
GOP! GOP! GOP! GOP!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Holmes on November 02, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
Guthrie cruising.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 02, 2010, 05:08:47 PM
The results are already starting to come in in Kentucky.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 05:16:44 PM
First house race is called: IN-05. R: 1, D 0.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
3-0 by now


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 05:22:17 PM
Anyone got a site with live updates, no refreshing required?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 02, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
First house race is called: IN-05. R: 1, D 0.

Fox has called IN-06 and IN-08 also, but only online I think.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 05:26:36 PM
Has any station called Kentucky or Indiana senate?

CNN with 1% reporting has the following:

Indiana
Coats: 55%
Ellsworth: 40%

Kentucky:
Paul: 56%
Conway: 44%

Is it bad news for republicans that they have not been called yet?

The Senate races won't be called until the top of the hour. Only half the state's closed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 02, 2010, 05:27:11 PM
FOX online House calls:

Democratic [1]
KY-06

Republican [8]
KY-01, KY-02, KY-04, KY-05
IN-05, IN-06, IN-08, IN-09


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 05:28:20 PM
Has any station called Kentucky or Indiana senate?

CNN with 1% reporting has the following:

Indiana
Coats: 55%
Ellsworth: 40%

Kentucky:
Paul: 56%
Conway: 44%

Is it bad news for republicans that they have not been called yet?

Post Senate stuff in regional threads :)

Razor thin margin in KY-06 thus far, though it doesn't mean much for another half hour.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 05:28:49 PM
FOX online House calls:

Democratic [1]
KY-06

Republican [8]
KY-01, KY-02, KY-04, KY-05
IN-05, IN-06, IN-08, IN-09

I don't think those are calls; just who's currently ahead.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 05:30:13 PM
Razor thin margin in KY-06 thus far, though it doesn't mean much for another half hour.

Last poll (10/19) had Chandler (D) up 4, for context.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 02, 2010, 05:35:55 PM
6:35 update, FOX

Democratic (0)

Republican (11)
KY-01, KY-02, KY-04, KY-05, KY-06
IN-02, IN-03, IN-05, IN-06, IN-08, IN-09


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 05:37:04 PM
6:35 update, FOX

Democratic (0)

Republican (11)
KY-01, KY-02, KY-04, KY-05, KY-06
IN-02, IN-03, IN-05, IN-06, IN-08, IN-09

Ugh, jumping the gun a little, Fox?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 02, 2010, 05:38:18 PM
They've popped KY-06 back to the Dems. I'm guessing their exit polls are absolutely demolishing the Democrats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 05:41:37 PM
First Dashboard:

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
Those Fox things are just showing who's leading, not who's projected to win...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 02, 2010, 05:46:45 PM
Given the margins the GOP is racking up in its safe seats in Kentucky I can see them winning the generic ballot by 15 and not gaining more than 55 seats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 05:48:57 PM
Given the margins the GOP is racking up in its safe seats in Kentucky I can see them winning the generic ballot by 15 and not gaining more than 55 seats.

It's early though, even in Kentucky, very little is in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 05:49:05 PM
Given the margins the GOP is racking up in its safe seats in Kentucky I can see them winning the generic ballot by 15 and not gaining more than 55 seats.

In 2008, they had similar margins in 1,4,5.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 05:50:49 PM
1% in from KY-03, and Lally is ahead. Who knows where in Louisville that's coming from, though.

Less than an hour and Swing State Project is already blowing up...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 05:55:03 PM
1% in from KY-03, and Lally is ahead. Who knows where in Louisville that's coming from, though.

Less than an hour and Swing State Project is already blowing up...

So stay here...  We run a tight ship!  :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 05:55:27 PM
The AP is getting results up quickly, it looks like, but I only have a link for their House results:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2010/general/by_county/us_house/IN.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

Just change the IN for a different state.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 05:56:52 PM
1% in from KY-03, and Lally is ahead. Who knows where in Louisville that's coming from, though.

Less than an hour and Swing State Project is already blowing up...

So stay here...  We run a tight ship!  :)

Let's just hope it doesn't run aground.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 05:57:16 PM
KY-06 had a big swing to the Democrat in the last dump (but only 3% is in).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 05:58:46 PM
Unlocked.  Have fun.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 05:59:48 PM
Unlocked.  Knock yourself silly.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:00:50 PM
VanHaaften is putting up a decent fight in IN-08, but he's losing Vigo County, which can't be good. Currently down 52-43.

Looks like Franklin County is coming in strong for Chandler; it's at 63-37 for him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 06:03:22 PM
Charlie Bass leads 7 votes to 5. I'm calling it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:03:39 PM
Hodes actually leading in NH.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 02, 2010, 06:04:20 PM
Hodes is up 7-5, we could very well see an upset tonight. In fact, Lynch is up 9-3, we could see a very big win for Lynch as well.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:04:55 PM
*Enjoying Hodes lead while it lasts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 06:05:19 PM
NYT Gov map crashed for anyone else?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 06:05:36 PM
Bass is obviously picking up Hodes and Lynch voters.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Republicans 8, Democrats 1.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 06:06:05 PM
Welch won reelection, this changes everything! :o


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 06:06:49 PM
CNN calls VT for Leahy.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:06:51 PM
According to the exit poll, the Green Party candidate in SC is going to break double-digits. And more white voters went for that guy than for Greene.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
Leahy and Welch win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
Ok, NPR called SC for DeMint.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Dem is up by 11.3 in KY-06 with 13% in. 
Reps up by 10+ in IN-02. IN-08 and IN-09. 
Rep up by 7.8 in KY-03.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 06:08:04 PM
Welch won reelection, this changes everything! :o

and Vermont is still the best state ever.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:09:07 PM
Fayette's coming in, so Chandler's still at a 10-point lead. He's actually ahead in many of the counties now, so he's doing okay.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 06:09:42 PM
Paul Begala just won the night "two years ago we asked if America is ready for a black President.  Now is America ready for an orange Speaker?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:10:01 PM
Welch won reelection, this changes everything! :o

and Vermont is still the best state ever.

Easily.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:10:09 PM
Fayette's coming in, so Chandler's still at a 10-point lead. He's actually ahead in many of the counties now, so he's doing okay.

Chandler is in which district?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 06:10:53 PM

Not for me.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:12:29 PM
Virginia results are here. (https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_s.shtml)

Griffith is already ahead by 20 in VA-09, while Hurt is up by 51-47. Only a few precincts in, though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Too early.  Gonna have to wait another 30 minutes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 06:13:34 PM
Rubio near 70% in first returns from Nassau County.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 06:14:13 PM
Calls for Leahy, even if expected, makes me little less angry after all crap has been called for Paul, DeMint and Coats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:14:26 PM
With 1% in, R leads NH-02 by 16.7%


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 06:14:29 PM
Speculation is that Florida is the ground zero of GOP wave.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 06:15:32 PM
According to the exit poll, the Green Party candidate in SC is going to break double-digits. And more white voters went for that guy than for Greene.

Damned racist progressives.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:16:14 PM
Rubio devastating everybody in Florida. Seriously how was this ever gonna be competitive?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 06:16:45 PM
Speculation is that Florida is the ground zero of GOP wave.
Rubio devastating everybody in Florida. Seriously how was this ever gonna be competitive?

A bit too soon - Nassau is part of FL-04, which is R+17.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
Some more precincts in, Yarmuth is ahead now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 06:18:29 PM
Crist is dead even with Rubio currently, but that will probably change. It has to be encouraging though that he's currently winning Tampa.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 06:18:30 PM
If the exits are alright, Shumlin definitely beat Dubie.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 06:19:25 PM
FL is pretty close at present.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:19:38 PM
Updated Dashboard - KY-03 and -06 are Dem leads now.  No Rep Watch List or Dem targets are in yet.

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 06:19:57 PM
There are evidently 2 Bass/Hodes voters.  I guess they liked both their former congressmen.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
If the exits are alright, Shumlin definitely beat Dubie.

:)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 02, 2010, 06:20:32 PM
Dem: 1
VT-01

Rep: 11
FL-04, FL-21
GA-06, GA-09, GA-11
IN-06
KY-02, KY-04, KY-05
VA-04, VA-07


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:22:08 PM
F**k you Kendrick Meek (spoken in South Park chinese)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Dem: 1
VT-01

Rep: 9
FL-21
GA-06, GA-09, GA-11
IN-06
KY-02, KY-04, KY-05
VA-04

Add KY-01 to that.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:25:51 PM
NYT has R at 11


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 06:25:52 PM
Hart County reports from Georgia - massive lead for Isakson.

(Hart is in GA-10, R+15)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 06:27:29 PM
F**k you Kendrick Meek (spoken in South Park chinese)

In Polish.

Pierdol się, Kendricku Meeku.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 06:28:21 PM
Florida is a Dem bloodbath.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:28:27 PM
Guess what: Eric Cantor might be ... re-elected by a large margin!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 06:29:11 PM
Chandler should win based on what I see, but it's far too early to be acting really definitive on that front.

Hill looks like a dead duck, but you can't say that for sure until we see a good bit of Monroe.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 06:29:30 PM
Guess what: Eric Cantor might be ... re-elected by a large margin!

Wow, what an upset.

WAVE, WAVE, WAVE!!!!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:30:06 PM
Virginia:

VA-02 - 2 precincts in from Accomack and Nye is getting slaughtered there, 70-29.

VA-05 - 56-41 Hurt with 18% in. Perriello looks to be underperforming significantly from 2008.

VA-09 - 55-43 Griffith with 14% in. Still early, but not looking good.

VA-11 - nothing in yet. Will probably take forever, since Fairfax is slow as hell at counting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 06:30:06 PM
If the exits are right, Haley is going perform pathetically tonight. Wow.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 06:31:54 PM
Damn Rubio is up big.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GOP732 on November 02, 2010, 06:33:28 PM

BIG in Miami-Dade County


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 06:36:10 PM


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 06:37:52 PM
Periello up a bit with 7% in. BE STILL MY BEATING HEART.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: homelycooking on November 02, 2010, 06:38:43 PM
Grayson getting smashed. Super-early, but Boyd and Brown at risk? Oh my.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
He's not any more.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
Updated Dashboard - with a Dem target on it now:

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:40:30 PM
Periello up a bit with 7% in. BE STILL MY BEATING HEART.

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_s.shtml

Sorry.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 06:41:35 PM
Indiana is looking terrifying at the moment...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:43:18 PM
Half of KY-03 is in and Yarmuth's up by 9.

58% in KY-06, Chandler up 53-47.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 06:43:37 PM
Spratt leads!

With, like, a village or two in. But, hey. It might be the last time anyone writes that.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Shea-Porter looks very vulnerable right now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 02, 2010, 06:44:42 PM
Rubio is over 60% in Miami-Dade (with 0.1% in . . .)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:46:22 PM
Updated Dashboard - with a Dem target on it now:

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So, one upset a side for your model?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 06:47:15 PM
We might as well stick a fork in Donnelly. He is down by about 15 points now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:49:20 PM
Indiana is looking terrifying at the moment...

Yeah, but the Northwest Indiana annex to Chicagoland closes later than the rest of the state, as does the Evansville area.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 06:50:23 PM
Yarmuth has won re-election, apparently. We're probably not losing 100 seats now, hooray!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 06:50:27 PM
Lamestream media calling Delaware for liberal communist Chris Coons.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 06:51:12 PM
Not that Florida isn't going to be bad for Dems, but aren't we seeing the massive R edge in early and absentees right now?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:51:20 PM

Those are Sam Spade's rankings, not my model.  The upset was with 1% in, so it should reverse itself.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 06:52:06 PM
Looks like the GOP absolutely destroyed the Dems in early voting in FL.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GOP732 on November 02, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
Grayson is doing horrible right now 62-38 with 6% reporting


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 06:53:55 PM
Lamestream media calling Delaware for liberal communist Chris Coons.

The witch has lost?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:54:46 PM
Both NH seats seem to be likely gone.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
VA-11 is going to be tight. Judging by the first few precincts, it looks like Fimian will win big in PW County, while Connolly will do well in Fairfax.

Perriello and Boucher are both down by 10 with 1/2 of the precincts in, I think they're both done for.

Not much in from VA-02, Nye's up in Hampton, Norfolk, and Northampton, while Rigell is crushing in Accomack; I expect Virginia Beach will go hard for Rigell.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 02, 2010, 06:55:14 PM
Bridgeport, CT precincts running out of ballots, and polls may be held open until 10pm:

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politics/hartford-no-problems-voting


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 06:55:59 PM
Almost an exact three-way tie in Broward.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:56:28 PM

TO early to tell, really.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 06:57:12 PM
Joe YOU LIE Wilson is trailing... with like some random poll reporting. Lol.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 06:57:52 PM
2 minutes to go....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 06:58:59 PM
Bridgeport, CT precincts running out of ballots, and polls may be held open until 10pm:

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politics/hartford-no-problems-voting


Ah, yes, the old Democrat let's keep our precincts open longer trick.   I'm sick of those games.  Either all precincts remain open longer or none of them.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
Joe YOU LIE Wilson is trailing... with like some random poll reporting. Lol.

Maybe there's some form of cosmic justice...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
First results in from Ohio... Wilson up in OH-06, Gibbs and Renacci crushing in OH-18 and OH-16, respectively... and Jim Traficant is ahead of the Republican in OH-17.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 06:59:35 PM
Unlocked folks.  Have fun.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: useful idiot on November 02, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
A lot of what's reporting in VA-05 is from conservative areas, nothing from Charlottesville and little from Albemarle. Still don't think Perriello is going to pull it out, but that should encourage his supporters.

Boucher doesn't look like he's doing so hot, but Montgomery isn't in yet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
Senator-elect Rubio :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:01:02 PM
First results in from Ohio... Wilson up in OH-06, Gibbs and Renacci crushing in OH-18 and OH-16, respectively... and Jim Traficant is ahead of the Republican in OH-17.

Beam me up!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:01:15 PM
NO McMahon is projected to go down. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:01:25 PM
MSNBC announced senator Rubio.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:01:35 PM
Fox projects Blumenthal in CT, Coons in DE.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
According to CNN, Republicans look to be making a sweep of the Virginia congressional delegation, with Morgan Griffith looking as if he will unseat the incumbent Democrat Rick Boucher 53% to 45% with 44% of precincts reporting.

It is still too early to call the 11th...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 07:03:02 PM
No! I thought O'Donnell had this one!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 07:04:12 PM
Just as a note - Chandler-Barr tightened to 3500 (51-49) votes with 70% in.  Only 79% of Fayette in, but I really don't know these other areas by heart.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:04:36 PM

Only our prayers can save her now


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Shilly on November 02, 2010, 07:04:41 PM
Delaware At-Large called for Carney.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 07:05:10 PM
Lamestream media calling Delaware for liberal communist Chris Coons.

The witch has lost?

The magic is gone.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 07:05:53 PM
The NPR calling it for Coons...

NOOO.....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
StatesRights will be pleased.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
Go Alvin go! What if he gets 35%+? I'll call that a victory if that happens.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Shilly on November 02, 2010, 07:06:15 PM
NH called for Ayotte.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 07:06:27 PM
NYT has a net gain of 1 for the Dems. ;) I'll enjoy it while I can.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 07:06:57 PM
Caause iiiit's wiiiitchraaaaft, wicked wiiitchcraaaaaft.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Tender Branson on November 02, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
Toomey by 2 or so ...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 07:07:50 PM
First pick-up of the night? Dems in DE-AL. ;D


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:08:55 PM
Just as a note - Chandler-Barr tightened to 3500 (51-49) votes with 70% in.  Only 79% of Fayette in, but I really don't know these other areas by heart.

From the statewide PVI map, Fayette (Lexington) is the reddest center.  The counties around it are blue.   The next tier are mixed - toward the east, pink (D+0 to D+5); to the west generally blue.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
Caause iiiit's wiiiitchraaaaft, wicked wiiitchcraaaaaft.

No, it's YOU.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:09:59 PM
First pick-up of the night? Dems in DE-AL. ;D

Exit polling, I assume?  I don't see any results yet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
Was prepared for worse. Its close enough that the real numbers have a chance of being close.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:10:14 PM
Georgia could lose all of its House Democrats outside of Atalanta.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Shelby is reelected.

Big f**king suprise.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:11:12 PM

MSNBC presenters chuckling at this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:11:41 PM
IN-02 flipped over to the Dems (+2.5) with about half in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 02, 2010, 07:12:16 PM
First pick-up of the night? Dems in DE-AL. ;D

Exit polling, I assume?  I don't see any results yet.

Turn on a TV.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 07:12:58 PM
Witchcraft at work.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 07:14:18 PM
Hate to sound like mypalfish or whatever but these exits are not really fantastic for Republicans.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 07:14:32 PM
Good bye, sweet princess :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
First pick-up of the night? Dems in DE-AL. ;D

Exit polling, I assume?  I don't see any results yet.

Turn on a TV.

Fox called nothing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 07:14:52 PM
Lol, where is the fish anyways?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 02, 2010, 07:16:14 PM

MSNBC called it, and the NYT map seems to have it colored in blue.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Connoly in trouble according to MSNBC. Not cool.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:17:13 PM
Updated Dashboard - more is trickling in:

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 07:17:26 PM

The map on NPR says only one county is reporting in.  But yeah, I can't see a Democrat winning in Alabama.

...is their map slow or something?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 07:18:18 PM
Haha. O'Donnell received just 82% of Delaware Republicans.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
Sandy Adams has picked up Suzanne Kosmas's seat.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:20:32 PM
Overall, Republicans are leading in 25 of the seats with results.  Not all are listed as reporting if no precinct vote is in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:21:01 PM
Sandy Adams has picked up Suzanne Kosmas's seat.

Which seat is that?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:22:03 PM
What was the first Republican house pickup tonight btw?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 07:22:28 PM
The early vote (I assume?) numbers in Texas look dreadful...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:22:47 PM

Florida 24


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Holmes on November 02, 2010, 07:23:34 PM
CNN calls FL-24 for Republicans.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
North Carolina... Etheridge is winning 60-38 in NC-02. Price is behind in NC-04, but that's with Wake County in and most of the liberal areas out. McIntyre up 55-45 in NC-07, Kissell up 57-40 in NC-08, Shuler down by 4 in NC-11, but very little is in from any of those.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: useful idiot on November 02, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Perriello is going to lose. Hurt is leading in Albemarle, Bedford and Appomattox only have 25 and 33 percent in.

I think it's safe to say Rigell is going to beat Nye in VA-02. Virginia Beach isn't even in yet.

Things still aren't looking good for Boucher, I think he's just not going to get the votes he needs, especially out of Montgomery, where he needs to pull a far healthier margin.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:24:43 PM
Hate to sound like mypalfish or whatever but these exits are not really fantastic for Republicans.

I'll take the risk of pulling a Mypalfish and remind you that I predicted this (sort of) in the final prediction thread.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 07:26:11 PM
MSNBC calls it for Blumenthal.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 07:26:30 PM
MSNBC calls CT for Blumenthal.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:26:47 PM
Called for Blumenthal in CT.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 07:26:58 PM

Yes!



that means I don't need to tell my HS crush that I had a crush on her.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 07:27:09 PM
Barr keeps closing - now within 500 votes in ky-6


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Thomas D on November 02, 2010, 07:27:15 PM

:D  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
The two seats called for the Dems were two seats thought most certain to go Republican at some point in 2009. If by some small miracle Harry Reid gets reelected, that would be all three.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Thomas D on November 02, 2010, 07:28:11 PM

Yes!

that means I don't need to tell my HS crush that I had a crush on her.

Tell her anyway. ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:28:27 PM
KY-06 has closed to within 0.3 points, Dem leading.  80+% in:


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 02, 2010, 07:29:02 PM
Hate to sound like mypalfish or whatever but these exits are not really fantastic for Republicans.

since when do exit polls favor the GOP?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 07:29:08 PM
Early numbers have Barney Frank way behind.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 02, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
OH-06 not filling me with joy at the moment.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 07:30:21 PM
NY Times has VA-9 coloured dark blue? An error? Or are the areas left overwhelming D?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 07:30:30 PM

Must be from the rougher precincts of Brookline.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 07:30:43 PM
It think the NYTimes screwed up. They called VA-09 for Boucher when his opponent is 7 points ahead with over 70% reporting. They probably meant the other way around.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 07:30:51 PM
And Lincoln's gone. Senator-elect Boozeman. +2


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:31:12 PM

That DEFINITELY depends on where the results are in from.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:31:50 PM
Perriello has been defeated.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:32:25 PM

Those numbers are ridiculously off, right??


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 07:33:04 PM
It think the NYTimes screwed up. They called VA-09 for Boucher when his opponent is 7 points ahead with over 70% reporting. They probably meant the other way around.
NY Times has VA-9 coloured dark blue? An error? Or are the areas left overwhelming D?

MSNBC has it red, so it is an error, it seems.

Edit: They just fixed it!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 07:33:20 PM
For all those who have orgasms over this, Barney Frank trails with <1% reporting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 07:33:55 PM
Yes, they got the wrong colour. Boucher has lost - NY Times.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 07:33:57 PM
NY Times has VA-9 coloured dark blue? An error? Or are the areas left overwhelming D?

NYT corrected it - GOP pickup.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:33:57 PM
Hate to sound like mypalfish or whatever but these exits are not really fantastic for Republicans.

since when do exit polls favor the GOP?

These are mostly early results, so no exit polls...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 07:34:36 PM
NY Times has VA-9 coloured dark blue? An error? Or are the areas left overwhelming D?

NYT corrected it - GOP pickup.

Thought as much. A bit of shame. But Morgan Griffith is such a hilariously Welsh name.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Holmes on November 02, 2010, 07:35:06 PM
Boucher. :/


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
Jeff Perry is now in a dead heat in MA-10.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
Keating has a sizable margin in the one town in MA-10 that has reported: Eastham. That's on the Cape, which is where Perry needs to win big.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:35:45 PM

Holding up hope for Rossi, Fiorina, or both winning.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:36:00 PM

They're early (I'm showing 0% in).  Who knows.

Dems lead in the other 3 MA watched races (MA-05, MA-06, MA-10) - but again, with little in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 02, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Fox calls VA-05 for Hurt.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 07:36:32 PM
Wow. Boucher's is a seat we're probably never winning back.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Updated Dashboard:

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R leading in 33, after that run.  32, if you take out DE-AL.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sarnstrom on November 02, 2010, 07:37:23 PM
Florida 8th - 67% Reporting:

Alan Grayson 39%
Daniel Webster 56%


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 07:37:42 PM
Spratt is going splat in SC-05. Down 62-38 with 12% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 07:37:53 PM
Sad to see Periello go, not too upset about Boucher.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 07:38:05 PM
It appears that Kucinich has held on. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 07:38:23 PM
Florida 8th - 67% Reporting:

Alan Grayson 39%
Daniel Webster 56%

Damn, the Taliban's winning.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:38:30 PM
Brown leading in FL-3. pffiuww


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
IN-08 is called for the Republicans.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 07:39:32 PM
Boucher and now Spratt look like two 1994 survivors going down.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:39:43 PM
Keating has a sizable margin in the one town in MA-10 that has reported: Eastham. That's on the Cape, which is where Perry needs to win big.

DEM hold?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Tender Branson on November 02, 2010, 07:39:54 PM
Blanche Lincoln running a tight race with Rick Santorum according to Exit Polls.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:40:03 PM
Fox: Grayson goes down in flames in FL-08


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 02, 2010, 07:40:43 PM
Grayson and Kosmas both lose.  Nothing surprising there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:40:46 PM
Bye bye Alan Greyson! Thank god we won't have to deal with your crap in the House anymore.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 02, 2010, 07:40:51 PM
Keating has a sizable margin in the one town in MA-10 that has reported: Eastham. That's on the Cape, which is where Perry needs to win big.
I thought the seashore was the more liberal part of the Cape?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 07:40:52 PM
Blanche Lincoln running a tight race with Rick Santorum according to Exit Polls.

lol. The corporate Democrat will not be missed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:41:09 PM
Any thoughts on CT-5?


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Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
A third is counted and Boyd is down by miles.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 07:41:33 PM
Blanche Lincoln running a tight race with Rick Santorum according to Exit Polls.

yes! Good riddance to trash.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 07:42:14 PM
Grayson and Che-Porter were on the top of my list among House Dems.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
Bye bye Alan Greyson! Thank god we won't have to deal with your crap in the House anymore.

One of the few gutsy democrats going down. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:43:18 PM
IN-02 is closing, too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:43:19 PM
Ayotte is up big. 63-34 so far. Her lead seems to be stabilizing in the 60's rather than declining which is good news.


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Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 07:43:39 PM
Dold is ahead with 5% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 07:44:23 PM
Not sure why they've not called Hill down yet; don't see how he can make up that sort of deficit.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2010, 07:45:15 PM
Texas, Rick Perry will win that. Susana Sanchez will win New Mexico. The other states will keep an eye on!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:45:20 PM
My spreadsheet's first auto call - Ds hold KY-03.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 07:45:26 PM
Keating has a sizable margin in the one town in MA-10 that has reported: Eastham. That's on the Cape, which is where Perry needs to win big.
I thought the seashore was the more liberal part of the Cape?

Yes, I saw Eastham went to Patrick by a nice margin which is atypical... but the race in the 10th was also supposed to be very much a geographic one because the two candidates come from opposite ends.

Keating is narrowly winning Plymouth, the part that's reported. Losing Sandwich by about the same margin he's winning Eastham.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:45:28 PM
MSNBC pointed out that Manchin is the kind of senator who would favour healthcare repeal whereas Lincoln sort of enabled it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
Baron Hill has bitten the dust to Todd Young in Indiana.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 02, 2010, 07:46:14 PM
Fox: Grayson goes down in flames in FL-08

Rather bittersweet turn of events. Undoubtedly an asshole on a personal level, Grayson was at least not totally horrible on the issues. Plenty of other Democrats who deserved to go first...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:46:20 PM
Also, I'll miss you Tom Periello (and you too Boucher I guess)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 07:46:35 PM
Over half of votes counted and Price is trailing. That's...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 07:47:25 PM
My god that exit poll in the IL Senate race are neck and neck.  Kirk underperformed among men, but overperformed with women.

He got only 25% though in Cooke, which is awful


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 07:47:39 PM
Dems are really barely holding on KY-06 and IN-02.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 02, 2010, 07:47:47 PM
Over half of votes counted and Price is trailing. That's...

Price will pull ahead. Wake is almost all in, Orange is barely half over, Durham is only 9%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 07:48:13 PM
Manchin to win going away in WV.  Wow.


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Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 07:48:24 PM
Haha, a precinct of Brookline came in with Frank beating Bielat, 1,063-212. Bielat winning a bunch of random small exurbs with 60% is not going to overcome that. 15 more precincts in Brookline...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 07:48:30 PM
Steele more or less conceding the Senate.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2010, 07:48:41 PM
My bad, those should be in the governor threads.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:49:17 PM
Dems are really barely holding on KY-06 and IN-02.

MO-04 is close, too (D+0.1) but very little is in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
Stephene Moore is losing 2-1 in KS-03. Guess we can see why she was triaged early on.

Chandler is holding on to a narrow lead in KY-06.

Nazi re-enactor loses in OH-09.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 07:49:45 PM
MSNBC pointed out that Manchin is the kind of senator who would favour healthcare repeal whereas Lincoln sort of enabled it.

Ah, that's good to hear.

Too bad we'll have one less non-interventionist in the Senate, though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
Price is behind by a tenth of a percentage point with 50% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on November 02, 2010, 07:50:15 PM

Well that's good.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 02, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Keating has a sizable margin in the one town in MA-10 that has reported: Eastham. That's on the Cape, which is where Perry needs to win big.
I thought the seashore was the more liberal part of the Cape?

Yes, I saw Eastham went to Patrick by a nice margin which is atypical... but the race in the 10th was also supposed to be very much a geographic one because the two candidates come from opposite ends.

Keating is narrowly winning Plymouth, the part that's reported. Losing Sandwich by about the same margin he's winning Eastham.

comparing those results to Scott Brown's I expect its going to be a close one.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/01/19/us/politics/massachusetts-election-map.html?hp (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/01/19/us/politics/massachusetts-election-map.html?hp)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Grayson is out, according to MSNBC.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:51:45 PM
Grayson now is also down on MSNBC.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 07:52:32 PM
Toomey won.  He got 35% in Phili.  That one is over.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 02, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
MSNBC pointed out that Manchin is the kind of senator who would favour healthcare repeal whereas Lincoln sort of enabled it.

Well Manchin's only got two years to prove that he means what he says in opposing Barack Obama, before he's up for election again with Barry himself at the top of the ticket.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 07:53:37 PM
The irony of the IL race is that Southern IL could hurt Kirk.  The burbs are still the key.

25% though in Cooke is abysmal. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on November 02, 2010, 07:54:22 PM

Too bad, though he was in a Republican district and he was the GOP's biggest target this year in the House.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:54:25 PM
If Feingold wins, this night is EPIC.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 07:54:30 PM
Heh, Coons winning New Castle 2-1, O'Donnell winning Sussex 60-38.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 07:54:33 PM

Expected. At least he went down with style and didn't hypocritically and opportunistically run away from his party like two-thirds of marginal incumbents.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
Chandler's down to a 700-vote lead with 94% in. Looks like he won the early vote or whatever in two of the three outstanding counties, though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:56:29 PM
Heh, Coons winning New Castle 2-1, O'Donnell winning Sussex 60-38.

Typical.  Kent's not in yet.  It will probably be closer to Sussex than New Castle, but less than 60-38.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 07:57:27 PM
Anyone think the GOP has a decent shot at the US House in NJ?

http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2010/new-jersey

District 3: 28%
Runyan 57%
Adler (i) 37%

District 6: 32%
Little 51%
Pallone (i) 48%

District 12: 13%
Sipprelle 61%
Holt (i) 38%

Edit: Update

Edit 2: Typo. It was their typo not mine ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
unlocked


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
R+6 right now on the NYT results page.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 07:59:04 PM
Rigell's winning Norfolk, this one is so over.

VA-11 is going to be crazy tight. If the current margins continue, Connolly should win by a handful of votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on November 02, 2010, 07:59:15 PM
Looks like CA won't fare so badly for the Dems.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 07:59:18 PM
Dashboard update:

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Frank is crushing Bielat in MA-04.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:00:35 PM
MSNBC PREDICTS REP MAJORITY???


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
MSNBC calls the House for the GOP. 237-198


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:01:10 PM
errr... !!!!!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 02, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Toomey won.  He got 35% in Phili.  That one is over.

Where did you get that? On the NYT site it is saying 21.6%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 08:02:08 PM
My favorite conservative Jonny Thune wins in SD.  Hoeven of course wins in ND.  Both Schumer/Gillibrand win in NY.  KS stays GOP


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:02:15 PM
depressing, but expected. Ugh.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:02:53 PM
Feingold too close to call...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:03:07 PM
tctc in Wisconsin. Quixotic hope can prevail.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:03:14 PM
237-198


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 02, 2010, 08:03:32 PM
omfg feingold. <3 PLEASE.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2010, 08:03:59 PM

+/- 13 seats

Still seems harsh based on the numbers (outside VA) so far, but....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 08:04:08 PM
FEINGOLD IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!

Exit is dead even.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:04:08 PM
tctc in Pennsylvania. Tommey's probably gonna win, though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 08:04:13 PM
Feingold and Bennet get 49% in the exit polls!

Go CO and WI!  Same day registration might save Russ again!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:04:16 PM

That's awfully specific of them.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 08:04:23 PM
CNN is showing Toomey got 22% in Phila; that is up a bit, IIRC, than Bush's numbers.  In 1994, Ridge won with 25% in Phila, which I think is the best showing of a statewide Republican since I've lived here.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
OMFG


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
Sestak might still pull this of...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 08:05:40 PM
The Dems are holding up surprisingly well in the NC house races...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:06:00 PM
Dems are up by 2 in IN-02.  Movement has been in that direction.  KY-06 is still razor-thin close: D+0.3 with 93% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 08:06:58 PM
CO and WI are up for grabs.  Again, Democrats ALWAYS close well in WI.

CO would be a huge blow to the GOP.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:07:21 PM
14% in and PA-11 is really tight. Will have to check where's in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Oh my God, Jesus Christ, please let that WI exit be for reals...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 08:07:47 PM
Pingree and Michaud are ahead at the moment. Take that, Critical Insights!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 08:07:54 PM
RUSS RUSS RUSS


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Tender Branson on November 02, 2010, 08:08:02 PM
Bennet by 49.5-47.0, by winning Independents with a double-digit lead.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
Pingree and Michaud are ahead at the moment. Take that, Critical Insights!

With less than 5% in, though.  Critical Insights might get theirs later, but not right now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 08:08:52 PM
*gets hopes up*


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:09:06 PM
Holding CO and WI would be fun to see.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 08:09:06 PM
Who's the IND leading in NE-3?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 02, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
CNN is showing Toomey got 22% in Phila; that is up a bit, IIRC, than Bush's numbers.  In 1994, Ridge won with 25% in Phila, which I think is the best showing of a statewide Republican since I've lived here.

W/ 29% of Philly vote reporting, according to NYT, Toomey has just dropped to a bit under 20%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:10:01 PM
There is a God who cares for obscure political internet forums...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 08:10:02 PM
Republicans are ahead in both NJ-06 and NJ-12, believe it or not.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 08:10:26 PM
Bennet by 49.5-47.0, by winning Independents with a double-digit lead.

That would be encouraging, he's one of the senators I was genuinely sad about. However I'm not so enthused about exit polls considering that CO was one of the Republicans' strong points in early voting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:10:45 PM

I know, wtf? It reminds me of how we all went wtf when that Indie was leading in that suburban Edmonton seat two years back (damn, time flies).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 08:11:02 PM
Wow things are looking awful right now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:11:12 PM
Less tight at 19% now. What's in so far? 29% of Columbia (and it's going for Barletta 68 to 32), 23% of Luzerne, 9% of Lackawanna, 2% of Monroe and 0% of Carbon. Will monitor.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 08:11:52 PM

:D


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
Bennet by 49.5-47.0, by winning Independents with a double-digit lead.

That would be encouraging, he's one of the senators I was genuinely sad about. However I'm not so enthused about exit polls considering that CO was one of the Republicans' strong points in early voting.

The confusion about exit polls and the inclusion of early votes continues...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:12:32 PM
The indie in NE-3 seems to be some far-right dude: http://votedanhill.com/site/


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:12:48 PM

Some guy named Hill.  It's only one county, though - and probably a typo.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Alcon on November 02, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
Sestak is running about 3% behind Obama in Philadelphia, and not doing that well in Berks County (part of Toomey's district) either...but those seem to be the exceptions.  Sestak seems to be performing rather well.  Bizarre?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 08:13:14 PM
NH-01 has been called for R's.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 08:13:43 PM
The contrast between the Senate and House results so far is rather striking. Moderate Republican gains in the Senate, wave victory in the House.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 08:14:33 PM
Fox calls the House for the Republicans. I think the GOP gets 49 seats in the Senate or 48 if Reid pulls it out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:14:56 PM
Fox News projects Republicans win the House.  Their models say that Republicans will win 60 House Seats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 02, 2010, 08:15:13 PM

Nah better than I thought. GOP takes House but Senate is looking up.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 08:15:17 PM
Keating is winning Plymouth. Coakley lost it by 28 points. I don't think the dirty cop is going to pull it out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:15:48 PM
The contrast between the Senate and House results so far is rather striking. Moderate Republican gains in the Senate, wave victory in the House.

Less of the Senate is up than the House.  Project the Senate gains to 100 seats, and you'd probably be about even.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 08:16:21 PM
238-197. MSNBC revises prediction.

They're also painting a very gorey picture of Rand Paul single-handedly causing a world wide depression. Infraction point - Excessive hyperbole.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
Guinta wins...

Skelton and Spratt chairmen in deep poop.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:17:20 PM
NC-2 is now very close with about half in. With 42% counted, Spratt is doing a lot better but is still down 52-47. Barrow has finally pulled ahead in GA-12 with 30% in. Boyd is down 56-39 but still not called; presume it's those very Dem areas left out?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on November 02, 2010, 08:19:09 PM
If Feingold wins, I actually won't feel depressed tomorrow...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:20:10 PM
The margin in KY-06 is down to D+0.2.... Now D+0.1...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 08:20:28 PM
Bennet by 49.5-47.0, by winning Independents with a double-digit lead.

That would be encouraging, he's one of the senators I was genuinely sad about. However I'm not so enthused about exit polls considering that CO was one of the Republicans' strong points in early voting.

The confusion about exit polls and the inclusion of early votes continues...

Help me out, then.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 08:21:03 PM
NC-2 is now very close with about half in. With 42% counted, Spratt is doing a lot better but is still down 52-47. Barrow has finally pulled ahead in GA-12 with 30% in. Boyd is down 56-39 but still not called; presume it's those very Dem areas left out?

With FL-02, Leon is 89% in - that one is over.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 08:21:27 PM
The GOP is going to flop in the big senate races they needed: CO, IL, WA, DE and WV. 

That killed them.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 08:22:32 PM
What hacks on MSNBC. They're seriously saying Republicans won't raise the debt ceiling and thus knowingly cause a worldwide depression.

This is analogous to Republicans saying Obama was going to socialize healthcare.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:23:01 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and call MA-04 for Frank now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Ex-Factor on November 02, 2010, 08:23:03 PM
If Feingold wins, I actually won't feel depressed tomorrow...

this i don't even care if boxer loses if feingold wins this election outcome will have exceeded my admittedly tiny expectations


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 08:23:12 PM
The GOP is going to flop in the big senate races they needed: CO, IL, WA, DE and WV. 

That killed them.

don't troll the house thread with senate stuff.  thanks


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 02, 2010, 08:23:20 PM
Wisconsin is close but unfortunately I think Feingold will lose. Bennett looks like he might hang on though. Looks like there was just a moderate wave in the Senate. The house looks pretty bad, but it should be less than 60.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 08:23:38 PM
Lincoln Davis looks to be in big trouble in TN-04, down by 20 with 16% in.

Ben Chandler by less than 400 votes with 96% in.

Joe Donnelly looks like he'll win, he's up by 2,000, and most of what's left is LaPorte, where he's winning handily.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
Didn't you predict that we were going to keep the House?

We did lose unexpectedly lose Boucher, and almost lost Donnelly. It looks like we are going to lose Chandler thanks to Conway being a dick too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 08:24:37 PM
What hacks on MSNBC. They're seriously saying Republicans won't raise the debt ceiling and thus knowingly cause a worldwide depression.

This is analogous to Republicans saying Obama was going to socialize healthcare.

That's why I don't watch MSNBC.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 08:25:20 PM
Republicans are ahead in both NJ-06 and NJ-12, believe it or not.

I already said that... but they are far from GOP yet.

NJ 3rd is looking pretty, though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:25:20 PM
Bennet by 49.5-47.0, by winning Independents with a double-digit lead.

That would be encouraging, he's one of the senators I was genuinely sad about. However I'm not so enthused about exit polls considering that CO was one of the Republicans' strong points in early voting.

The confusion about exit polls and the inclusion of early votes continues...

Help me out, then.

Some seem to think they're included in exit polls. So I wouldn't be able to say that CO is looking not too well right now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 08:25:47 PM
We did lose unexpectedly lose Boucher, and almost lost Donnelly. It looks like we are going to lose Chandler thanks to Conway being a dick too.

If Chandler loses, it's standard partisan swing stuff, nothing to do with Conway.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 08:26:25 PM
Hill is back down to "normal," in NE-3.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SPQR on November 02, 2010, 08:27:28 PM
Wtf De Mint? Barely 60%?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
Hill is back down to "normal," in NE-3.

More votes in.  May not be a typo, though.  It's with 0% in.  Could be absentees.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:28:21 PM

Blacks went for Greene heavily after all.

Also, David Vitter can book his prostitutes for the spring.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 08:28:34 PM
Nunnelee crushing Childers by 20 in MS-01... Palazzo barely ahead of Taylor in MS-04.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 08:29:13 PM
Connelly and Fimian are about tied in VA-11 according to latest poll results, with 60% of precincts in.

Connelly (D): 48.7%
Fimian (R): 49.4%


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GOP732 on November 02, 2010, 08:29:26 PM
Republicans are ahead in both NJ-06 and NJ-12, believe it or not.

I already said that... but they are far from GOP yet.

NJ 3rd is looking pretty, though.

Im impressed no matter how it turns out at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 08:29:33 PM
What hacks on MSNBC. They're seriously saying Republicans won't raise the debt ceiling and thus knowingly cause a worldwide depression.

This is analogous to Republicans saying Obama was going to socialize healthcare.

That's why I don't watch MSNBC.

MSNBC is full of idiots, but Lawrence O'Donnell is obviously an intelligent liberal who belongs on a better network.  Smarter than Keith and Rachel and family combined.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:30:31 PM
Say bye-bye to Melancon, folks.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:31:39 PM
Updated Dashboard:

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 08:31:46 PM
Holy ballbusters Marco Rubio is giving a great speech.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 08:31:58 PM
TN-04 called for DesJarlais. Accidental congressman-for-life?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 08:32:23 PM
We did lose unexpectedly lose Boucher, and almost lost Donnelly. It looks like we are going to lose Chandler thanks to Conway being a dick too.

If Chandler loses, it's standard partisan swing stuff, nothing to do with Conway.
I don't know man, they ran about even in the more urban counties. I think Conway's collapse reverberated downballot to an extent.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
Rubio not as scary as Paul. That's all I can say.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
Little has pretty much won Monmouth, but she is behind 1% now.

Sipprelle is 60%-39% with 32% in.

Runyan is 58%-48% with 40% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:32:53 PM
with 34% in SC-2 (Joe Wilson's district), he's down 45.8-51.8. Either its the black areas which are heavy, or he'll get a surprisingly close race. Good news, perhaps, either way, for competence and sanity.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Iosif on November 02, 2010, 08:33:04 PM
Why does Rubio have a tinge of an Irish accent? It's creepy.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:33:44 PM
Closest:

KY-06
VA-11
ND-AL
NJ-06


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 08:34:35 PM
Connolly's back in front. I think he wins, because there's more of Fairfax left than PW.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:34:36 PM
Why do I kinda like Rubio now?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
Rubio will definitely run for President one day. Great speech.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:35:19 PM
ignore


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:35:28 PM
Less tight at 19% now. What's in so far? 29% of Columbia (and it's going for Barletta 68 to 32), 23% of Luzerne, 9% of Lackawanna, 2% of Monroe and 0% of Carbon. Will monitor.

Barletta up about six or so. Percent counted by county: Columbia 86, Luzerne 69, Lackawanna 40, Carbon 39, Monroe 32


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:35:48 PM
CHRISTINE IS SPEAKING!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:36:15 PM
Whose child has she stolen??


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
Yeah this is way too much to pay attention to and comment on. Looks like I won't be posting anything from now on.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
Connolly's back in front. I think he wins, because there's more of Fairfax left than PW.

Fairfax always comes in later; I'm feeling alright about Connolly.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:37:05 PM

those damn witches


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 08:37:41 PM
TN-04 called for DesJarlais. Accidental congressman-for-life?

I kind of love that between TN and IN, the Republicans are just getting the seats they'd get in redistricting two years early.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 08:37:52 PM
30 seconds after Marco Rubio renewed my faith in America, Christine O'Donnell is taking a dump on my brain.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
Duffy (R) is up by 20 in WI-07 with 1% in.   Won't hold, but whatever.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:38:20 PM
We won, the delaware political system will never be the same.

That's right, you just lost a house seat in a republican wave year. Things will never be the same.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SPQR on November 02, 2010, 08:39:22 PM
30 seconds after Marco Rubio renewed my faith in America, Christine O'Donnell is taking a dump on my brain.
Lol,pretty much.An impressive speech and then something that any soccer mom could do better.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:40:06 PM
I am not too confident about WI. The NYT split screen feature is quite depressing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 08:40:15 PM
Christine says she has food and they're gonna party. wtf.

She's insane.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:40:19 PM
Chet Edwards has been defeated - NY Times


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Chet Edwards is Congressman no more. But he was one resilient guy, that's for sure.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 08:40:52 PM
Joe Wilson is about 50-50 with 50% in on tv. I find that very hard to believe.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 08:41:18 PM
Connelly and Fimian are about tied in VA-11 according to latest poll results, with 60% of precincts in.

Connelly (D): 48.7%
Fimian (R): 49.4%

With 70% of precincts in:

Connelly (D): 49%
Fimian (R): 49%

It wouldn't surprise me if there is going to be a recount on this one.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
Christine says she has food and they're gonna party. wtf.

She's insane.

You might have missed a lot about this race if this is the first time you realize this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 02, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
It was the "God Bless you... and let's Party" that got my eyebrow cocked...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 02, 2010, 08:41:37 PM
I kinda loved that concession speech. "Let's partayyyyy!"


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:42:05 PM
Dem should win IN-02.  Up by 1.4 with 99% in.  It's over.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 08:42:23 PM
WTF is with Palin claiming Castle would have lost to Coons as well? Is she just trying to rationalize this blowout to her girl or what?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 02, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
What hacks on MSNBC. They're seriously saying Republicans won't raise the debt ceiling and thus knowingly cause a worldwide depression.

This is analogous to Republicans saying Obama was going to socialize healthcare.

That's why I don't watch MSNBC.

MSNBC is full of idiots, but Lawrence O'Donnell is obviously an intelligent liberal who belongs on a better network.  Smarter than Keith and Rachel and family combined.

Just fyi, they didn't say that at all. They mentioned the debt ceiling will need to be raised and Rand Paul made a big stint in his speech about being "enslaved to debt." They also mentioned that Rand Paul would have power as an individual Senator to stand in the way of such a raise, and then they talked about the possible effects that would have on the world economy.

That seems entirely reasonable to be and perfectly truthful and legit questions.

But you can go back to the "I hate MSNBC and all cable news" bandwagon now and pretend you're way ahead of the curb.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
Sestak is running about 3% behind Obama in Philadelphia, and not doing that well in Berks County (part of Toomey's district) either...but those seem to be the exceptions.  Sestak seems to be performing rather well.  Bizarre?

 
The bulk of Sestak's numbers are coming out of Phila.  There might have been proportionally more white people voting this time.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dave from Michigan on November 02, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
MI-1  

Benishek (R) up 53-39  with 33% reporting


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 08:45:28 PM
Connelly and Fimian are about tied in VA-11 according to latest poll results, with 60% of precincts in.

Connelly (D): 48.7%
Fimian (R): 49.4%

With 70% of precincts in:

Connelly (D): 49%
Fimian (R): 49%

It wouldn't surprise me if there is going to be a recount on this one.  

OMG, Connelly now narrowly has the lead according to the Virginia State Board of Elections website (https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_s.shtml).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:45:46 PM
Republicans up in PA-7 and PA-8, in case no one's mentioned that yet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 08:46:23 PM
WTF is with Palin claiming Castle would have lost to Coons as well? Is she just trying to rationalize this blowout to her girl or what?
Yes and Americans are dumb enough to believe it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 08:47:15 PM
Christine O'Donnell wtf.....

smh


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on November 02, 2010, 08:49:23 PM
Wow, it looks like Gerry Connolly (VA-11) is really getting a run for his money. The last time I looked at it, Republican opponent Keith Fimian is actually leading by a few hundred votes.

I still think Connolly is favored, but if he loses, the Republicans will have even more VA House seats then they did before 2008 (if Connolly loses, then the Republicans will have a 9-2 advantage!)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 08:49:36 PM
30 seconds after Marco Rubio renewed my faith in America, Christine O'Donnell is taking a dump on my brain.

Rubio was all class tonight. Winning helps, I guess.

O'Donnell has no business being in state wide races... in any state.

If Murkowski wins and goes with the GOP (destroying Palin, as a result) and The GOP takes the US House in NJ, then I consider it a very successful night. :p


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
Sestak is winning in PA.  Aw balls.

Oh well, I'll be happy if the Republicans at least take the House.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 08:51:36 PM
Sestak is winning in PA.  Aw balls.

Oh well, I'll be happy if the Republicans at least take the House.

Philly and Pit are mostly in...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:51:49 PM
FWIW, I had Republicans leading in 57 House seats of Sam's 139 in the last run about 10 minutes ago.  I'll post another dashboard update soon.  Data's not in in all seats, natch.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 08:53:14 PM
PA would be a huge blow to the Republicans.  What happened?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
Dems still holding up surprisingly well across the board in North Carolina; Schuler and Price both won, Kissell and McIntyre have strong leads. Bob Etheridge is in a dead heat though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 08:54:04 PM
Joe Wilson is about 50-50 with 50% in on tv. I find that very hard to believe.
YOU LIE!

Really though, that's absolutely unbelievable.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
Wow, it looks like Gerry Connolly (VA-11) is really getting a run for his money. The last time I looked at it, Republican opponent Keith Fimian is actually leading by a few hundred votes.

I still think Connolly is favored, but if he loses, the Republicans will have even more VA House seats then they did before 2008 (if Connolly loses, then the Republicans will have a 9-2 advantage!)

Connelly now has a narrow lead in terms of raw votes, but I have no doubt there is going to be a recount before the dust settles on this race.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 08:54:17 PM
Sestak is winning in PA.  Aw balls.

Oh well, I'll be happy if the Republicans at least take the House.

Philly and Pit are mostly in...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 08:56:11 PM
Toomey ties it up in PA.  If the inner counties are left, he may pull it off.  The Exit Polls may be off here.  Philly was 75% to Sestak.  That's the max the GOP can lose there and win PA.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Iosif on November 02, 2010, 08:56:28 PM
Lincoln county only one still out in KY-6. Chandler up by less that 1000.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 08:56:39 PM
Connolly's going to win. He's closed the gap in PW, he's only down by 5 there now, and almost all that's left is Fairfax.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 08:56:44 PM
Joe Wilson is about 50-50 with 50% in on tv. I find that very hard to believe.
YOU LIE!

Really though, that's absolutely unbelievable.

This is perhaps my favourite result so far.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 08:57:09 PM
PA marginals...

PA-3: R 54 (65% in)
PA-4: D 51 (46% in)
PA-12: D 51 (25% in)
PA-10: R 54 (59% in)
PA-11: R 54 (66% in)
PA-15: D 47 (28% in)
PA-6: R 52 (7% in)
PA-7: R 58 (27% in)
PA-8: R 52 (39% in)

Please note I don't know which areas are in yet in most cases as I've nay checked.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 02, 2010, 08:57:14 PM
Wisconsin joined Illinois and Pennsylvania in the tossup/very narrow lead Republican category of a 0.5-1 point lead for the Republican in the exit poll.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 08:57:16 PM
Joe Wilson is about 50-50 with 50% in on tv. I find that very hard to believe.
YOU LIE!

Really though, that's absolutely unbelievable.

I will lmao if this flips.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: useful idiot on November 02, 2010, 08:58:36 PM
Connelly and Fimian are about tied in VA-11 according to latest poll results, with 60% of precincts in.

Connelly (D): 48.7%
Fimian (R): 49.4%

With 70% of precincts in:

Connelly (D): 49%
Fimian (R): 49%

It wouldn't surprise me if there is going to be a recount on this one.  

OMG, Connelly now narrowly has the lead according to the Virginia State Board of Elections website (https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_s.shtml).

Not a surprise. I don't know why the news networks were painting it so close so early when there was almost nothing in. Then Prince William was coming in far faster than Fairfax, so there was no doubt that it was going to eventually close up.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
Hello all. Well it was exciting when I saw the Pubbie up 10% in IN-02 when I arrived at the gym. I was thinking maybe an 80 seat gain based on that. But by the end of my workout, it was even, and the Dem Donnelly will win by 1,000 votes or so, after I checked what was out, and how many votes were out (not many). So Nate Silver with having Donnelly up by 2% on a plus GOP 54 seat model, translates pretty well into the 60 or so seat gain that I think at least Fox is projecting. Look at the IN-01 results. Skin tight, with about 25% of the votes in. Granted, I have not checked where they were from. IN-01 was my wild guess sleeper seat. :)

So, without parsing more data other than what I watched on the tube, it does look like 55-65 seats to me - for the moment.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 08:59:03 PM
Updated Dashboard:

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Now, R+56 in the seats in so far.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:00:32 PM
Kratovil is getting stomped in MD-01. He's losing everywhere but Kent County.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
Philly almost in...

83.4% reporting
Sestak 293k (82.5%)
Toomey 62k (17.6%)
Total = 355k

Est total will be over 420k.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:01:35 PM
Arizona elects McCain.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 09:02:04 PM
Lincoln county only one still out in KY-6. Chandler up by less that 1000.

Lincoln County is Republican-leaning statewide (slight), with 16,000 RVs.  It should tighten a bit - but I don't know if there will be enough votes to make up the 900 or so gap.

Nailbiter.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 09:02:32 PM
NBC isn't ready to make a projecting in Utah?!?!

Did they just forget to take an exit poll or something?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
MSNBC: 240-195


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 09:04:24 PM
Reid's ahead in the CNN exit poll? :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:04:49 PM
BTW, everyone's welcome to join Dead0man and me in the chatroom (details are in the forum community forum).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:05:18 PM
Philly:

86.96% reporting
Sestak 308k (82.7%)
Toomey 64k (17.3%)
Total = 372k

Est total will be over 428k.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:06:50 PM
Bright is up 54-46 with 44% in.

Illinois looks like a rout. Seals fails a THIRD FREAKING TIME. Kinzinger, Hultgren and Schilling all ahead. If Quinn pulls off a win, redistricting would be entertaining.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:07:46 PM
Oh, you're all welcome in the forum chatroom.

Details are somewhere stickied in the foruml community forum.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 02, 2010, 09:09:29 PM
The returns from Bucks seem to be coming in a bit faster than Montco and Delaware Cos...at least on CNN.  Toomey winning there but losing the other two.  Interestingly, if the cnn map is to be believed Toomey is losing in the counties he represented in congress...(so far).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 09:10:08 PM
wtf is going on in SC-02?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:11:38 PM
Philly:

91.4% reporting
Sestak 324k (83.24%)
Toomey 65.1k (16.7%)
Total = 389k

Est total will be over 427k.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Iosif on November 02, 2010, 09:12:57 PM
Joe Wilson down 3% with 55% in...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 09:13:40 PM
Can Sestak hold this lead?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 02, 2010, 09:13:47 PM

YOU LIE! It's not close!

/snark


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Mikado on November 02, 2010, 09:14:27 PM
Dems up 49-48 in Utah with 12% in.  I love crazy early results.  :)

Anyway, that'll go away soon.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:15:45 PM
Philly:

93.42% reporting
Sestak 332.6k (83.5%)
Toomey 65.5k (16.5%)
Total = 398k

Est total will be over 427k.

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 02, 2010, 09:16:16 PM
Oh no!  Is Toomey going to lose?!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:16:43 PM
Nunnelee still down by double-digits with 50% in, Taylor down by 3 with 50% in. Skelton down by 9 with 43% in. Pallone and Holt ahead in NJ. Barela and Heinrich tied in NM-01, Pearce up 62-38. Hall down big in NY-19, Hinchey up by 12 in NY-22. Etheridge and Ellmers tied in NC-02. McIntyre, Kissell, Shuler up. Berg up in ND. WTF, Paula Brooks ahead in OH-13?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 09:17:17 PM
Dems up 49-48 in Utah with 12% in.  I love crazy early results.  :)

Anyway, that'll go away soon.

I will eat a shoe if Lee loses in Utah.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:17:40 PM
Is Phil pulling his hair out or what?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 09:19:01 PM

I am. :'(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 09:19:31 PM
Runyan 55-42 with just Burlington County to go... Cherry Hill is already in.

Little falling apart with Union giving a splash result.

Sipprelle a few points behind.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
80% for the Democrats in Phili is usually a death sentence for the GOP.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
What's going on with Pennsylvania?  I thought we had this in the bag.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
Philly:

94.61% reporting
Sestak 340k (83.74%)
Toomey 65.9k (16.2%)
Total = 406k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 09:21:05 PM
Once Philly and Pitt. go full in (about another 10% of their total for each), Toomey should start making big steps to catch up. I don't think he'll have enough to overtake Sestak though..


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 09:21:36 PM
Oh my god, I LOVE PHILADELPHIA!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:22:51 PM
Philly:

95.55% reporting
Sestak 343.6k (83.86%)
Toomey 65.9k (16.1%)
Total = 410k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 09:23:29 PM
PA could be very close....as in court battle-type close....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
I think the time has come to call some of those PA D incumbents down. Too far back now. Sorry.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 09:24:01 PM
Kissell holds on in NC-08.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:24:11 PM
Philly:

96.03% reporting
Sestak 345.1k (83.92%)
Toomey 66.0k (16.04%)
Total = 410k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:24:19 PM
Wisconsin is slow as hell. Feingold better make some big gains if he's gonna take this...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:24:59 PM
A pretty good night. Mixed results. But that only reflects a people disaffected with both parties.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 02, 2010, 09:25:36 PM
Sestak is seriously a boss. I love him, and I knew I should have had more faith in him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:26:12 PM
Philly:

96.74% reporting
Sestak 347.2k (83.97%)
Toomey 66.1k (15.99%)
Total = 413k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84.11% clip.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 09:26:20 PM
Philly:

95.55% reporting
Sestak 343.6k (83.86%)
Toomey 65.9k (16.1%)
Total = 410k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.
Also, Kerry only got 80% in 2004. This is bad for Toomey.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:26:45 PM
KY-06 is all in, Chandler by 600 votes exactly.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:26:54 PM
PA is looking like a future legal battle.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 09:27:23 PM
Philly:

94.61% reporting
Sestak 340k (83.74%)
Toomey 65.9k (16.2%)
Total = 406k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.

A good clip of Lancaster County is still out, among other places


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:27:42 PM

Best. House. Race. Ever.

Wilson actually trailing now...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:27:51 PM
Cao getting crushed in LA-02, 58-39. LA-03 is going 2-1 for the Republican.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Mikado on November 02, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
Chet Edwards has been defeated - NY Times

Goodbye, Chet.  One less...atavism (can you come up with a better word?)...in the House.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
Dems projected to win NJ-6 and NJ-12.

GOP wins NJ-3 by about 4k votes. (Unless the Dems find a lot of votes)

Dems still have more representatives in NJ 7-6.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 09:28:42 PM
Toomey is going to lose. Wow.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
72% counted and Gene Taylor is narrowly behind.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:29:12 PM
Dems are holding every seat in Mass. MA-10 is the only one in single-digits.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
KY-06 is all in, Chandler by 600 votes exactly.

I'm guessing there will be a recount.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 09:29:46 PM
It looks to me that Toomey probably has it. The GOP bastions have not been heard from yet nearly as much as Philly (Lancaster is only about a third in for example) which has largely shot its wad. The margins for Sestak in the Philly burbs are narrow. But that is just a quick and dirty look at it all. Sestak is doing very poorly in Western PA, just terrible.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 7,052,770 on November 02, 2010, 09:30:35 PM
72% counted and Gene Taylor is narrowly behind.
:(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
Philly:

94.61% reporting
Sestak 340k (83.74%)
Toomey 65.9k (16.2%)
Total = 406k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.

A good clip of Lancaster County is still out, among other places

Montgomery is reporting under 30%.
Lehigh under 60%
Delaware still has 10% to go.
Allegheny at 99.2%


Philadelphia up to the minute:

97.21% reporting
Sestak 348.5k (83.98%)
Toomey 66.3k (15.98%)
Total = 415k

Est total will be over 429k!

Side note:
Casey pulled 424k at an 84+% clip.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 02, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
Montgomery County seems a bit behind...or has it fully reported?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 02, 2010, 09:31:43 PM

Wilson's opponent Miller in 2008 got 46 percent of the vote. Miller's been campaigning pretty aggressively for a rematch ever since, and Wilson's outburst and other controversies probably haven't helped him much locally.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 09:33:26 PM
It looks to me that Toomey probably has it. The GOP bastions have not been heard from yet nearly as much as Philly (Lancaster is only about a third in for example) which has largely shot its wad. The margins for Sestak in the Philly burbs are narrow. But that is just a quick and dirty look at it all. Sestak is doing very poorly in Western PA, just terrible.

I concur.  Toomey was also leading in 3 of the 4 PVI bellwether counties last I checked (Bucks, Luzerne, Northampton, Monroe).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:34:39 PM
PA-3, PA-10 and PA-11 all called as R gains.

PA-12 is over 80% counted and is now quite close.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 02, 2010, 09:34:54 PM
Montgomery County
Link to County web site for Election Results
*** 124 out of 430 Districts (28.84%) Reporting Countywide ***


I believe the Schwartz troll is mopping up there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 09:35:01 PM
White vote just counted in SC-02, Wilson up by 10. No surprise there, but closer than expected.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dave from Michigan on November 02, 2010, 09:35:47 PM
MI-1 has gone republican 52-40.8 with 63% in


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 09:36:23 PM
Looks like Etheridge will be the only Dem in NC to lose.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
And suddenly, we have a tied ballgame.

Toomey is going to win, but it won't be very comfortable.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 09:37:01 PM
Wow... PA really tightened up... 1% difference now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
Nunnelee still down by double-digits with 50% in, Taylor down by 3 with 50% in. Skelton down by 9 with 43% in. Pallone and Holt ahead in NJ. Barela and Heinrich tied in NM-01, Pearce up 62-38. Hall down big in NY-19, Hinchey up by 12 in NY-22. Etheridge and Ellmers tied in NC-02. McIntyre, Kissell, Shuler up. Berg up in ND. WTF, Paula Brooks ahead in OH-13?

Childers has the edge over Nunnelee, but with 56% of the vote in, and only 26% in from De Soto, it will be very tight. That seat cannot be called.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 02, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Damn, for once Shea-Porter didn't exceed expectations.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 09:38:20 PM
WISCONSIN SUCKS.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:38:29 PM
Ugh. It looks like Toomey will win by like a point. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 02, 2010, 09:39:13 PM
Boooo.  :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 02, 2010, 09:39:13 PM
Damn....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 09:39:41 PM

Kind of what some people were trying to say... Philly and Pit got their stuff in earlier than other places.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:40:14 PM
Wisconsin called for the plastic man. :(

CNN Exit Polls, you are a cruel mistress.

We'll miss you, Russ. Come back soon please.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 02, 2010, 09:40:26 PM
:(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 09:40:37 PM
What's going on with Pennsylvania?  I thought we had this in the bag.

72% reporting and it is 50/50.

The GOP just flipped PA-7 and PA-10.

The jury is still out an Lancaster and York are both below 50% reporting; 90% of Phila is in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:40:43 PM
DAMN YOU WISCONSIN!!!!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:40:43 PM
MontCo just jumped to 60%.

Sestak went from +7k to +15k advantage there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 09:40:59 PM
With less than a thousand vote difference between Connelly and Fimian (w/ Connelly having a narrow lead) and 97.6% of precincts (164 out of 168) reporting in VA-11, I am waiting for an automatic recount to be called.  It will probably be the first of several...  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 02, 2010, 09:41:44 PM
Turd.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 09:41:46 PM
Sestak is "beating the wind" and "is inspiring", says Chris Matthew, just as Toomey takes the lead.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on November 02, 2010, 09:42:16 PM
What's been happening SC-2 was that the Democratic portions of the district reported first.  So far none of the results in South Carolina have surprised me.  Anyway, now that Lexington County has reported SC-2 has been called for Wilson.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Mikado on November 02, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
Sestak's going down.  :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Thomas D on November 02, 2010, 09:42:44 PM
Sorry Russ. Maybe you were too good for the Senate.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 09:43:49 PM
Johnson whooped ass in early voting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:44:20 PM
Yeah.

:(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:44:26 PM
Sestak is "beating the wind" and "is inspiring", says Chris Matthew, just as Toomey takes the lead.

He ruined it!

I knew this was gonna be a heartbreaker but this is just ridiculous! :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 09:44:35 PM
Updated dashboard:

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Sam may have been a little conservative.

I have Republicans with leads in Net 60 right now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 09:44:58 PM
Toomey's in the lead!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
The Amish vote is still out!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 02, 2010, 09:45:30 PM
Montgomery is only 29% in, don't count your chickens...


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Post by: bullmoose88 on November 02, 2010, 09:46:36 PM

59.07%

http://webapp.montcopa.org/election/2010%20General%20ELection%20Result.htm


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 09:46:40 PM
Funny that it appears the only North Carolina house member to be defeated is Etheridge.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 09:47:49 PM

Lancaster is at 75%, Chester and York under 50%.  I'm not counting, but it is still open.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 09:48:24 PM
I believe this one is over.  Toomey looks like the victor here.

The Toomey lead keeps increasing bit by bit.  MontCo is at 59.07%, yes, but I don't see Sestak picking up 19k votes from the remaining 40+%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 09:48:35 PM
I'd be surprised if Toomey doesn't win at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
You're all still welcome on the forum chat room.

Check out the Mibbit thread in forum community.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 09:49:52 PM
Funny that it appears the only North Carolina house member to be defeated is Etheridge.
Hallelujah! :) He was on my Top 5 for Congressmen I wanted out. I really like Ellmers too, so it's a win-win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:51:22 PM
Texas news... Ortiz trails with over 80% in, Edwards is actually getting hammered, Doggett is only on 52%, Rodriguez trails...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 09:51:58 PM
Now that Lancaster's coming in more, it's swinging toward Toomey.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 09:52:06 PM
Damn you Texas. Damn you. >:(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 02, 2010, 09:52:15 PM
All right, now it looks much better for Toomey.  PHEW.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 09:52:55 PM
Adler loses NJ-03; Fake Tea Party candidate deeply saddened.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 09:53:51 PM
Damn. So close. What a bummer.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 09:53:58 PM
Just to give the Democrats something to be excited about...

Bachmann is only leading by 6 points, under 50%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 02, 2010, 09:54:10 PM


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 02, 2010, 09:54:31 PM
All right, now it looks much better for Toomey.  PHEW.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:54:37 PM

But the El Paso district has been held!

(yeah. I know)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 09:55:39 PM
Murphy falls


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 09:56:21 PM

Double Ditto.

Phila didn't turn out enough to stop him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Mikado on November 02, 2010, 09:57:30 PM
Wait, DOGGETT'S in danger?

That I didn't see coming.

Anyway, RIP Russ and all that.  Resurgam should be written on his political grave, though: I don't think we've seen the last of him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SPQR on November 02, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
Oh well,at least it wasn't a Toomey +9 like "some" members kept saying...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 10:00:09 PM
Wisonsin, Illinois and Pennsylvania are at the top of my hate list right now.

2 of them might still redeem themselves...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Toomey is going to win by about 30,000-50,000 votes or so.  Unless that 3% remaining in Philly is full of mischief, or the Montco votes not counted are all in Chiselham township (sp), and then it will be a tie. Clear advantage Toomey - almost a call to my mind.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 10:00:55 PM

Keystone Phil strikes again.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 02, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MSNBC called Wisconsin for the friend of pedophiles.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:01:44 PM
The fact that Philadelphia was even able to bring him this close in this environment in the rest of the state is still something I find incredible though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 10:02:54 PM
CA called for Boxer just like that. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
As I mentioned long ago...

The path to victory in PA is either...
Super-overperformance in Philadelphia (over 500,000 votes at +80%), and Pittsburgh and very few other counties.
Very good performance in Philadelphia (over 400,000 votes at +80%), and Pittsburgh and several counties
Good performance in Philadelphia (over 300,000 votes at +80%), and Pittsburgh and very many other counties.

Unfortunately Sestak falls in none of the three.
He had very good performance in Philadelphia (over 429k at 84.1%! which pretty much eclipses Casey's performance), did alright in Pittsburgh (over 408k at 55%, but doesnt match Casey's 459k at 64.9%), but didn't win enough other counties.

If anyone had any doubts about Montgomery county being democratic, it is erased with this election.  Depending on how you equate things, Montgomery is either the 3rd or 4th most democratic county in PA (i say that because Delaware shows greater margins, but has fewer voters).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:03:41 PM
Fiorina and Whitman both down 10% in the exit polls. The exit polls probably have a pretty heavy Dem bias, but both will probably lose. Murray up by a few points, but how can one do an exit poll, when nobody shows up physically to vote?  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 02, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
Still 8k absentees to be counted in Bucks tomorrow.  Doesn't seem like it will matter with whats left to count from the votes today...but maybe we'll get lucky.  Toomey can go to hell. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
Rossi will be close again, but it won't happen.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:06:14 PM
Upstate NY update...

NY-19: 20% in, Hall down by ten.
NY-20: 32% in, Murphy down by ten.
NY-29: 19% in, Owens up by about three.
NY-24: 27% in, Arcuri down by eleven.
NY-22: 45% in, Hinchey up by nine.
NY-25: 20% in, Maffei down by two.
NY-29: 38% in, R lead of eleven.
NY-27: 12% in, Higgins up by five.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Progressive on November 02, 2010, 10:07:03 PM
Any news on McCarthy-04 in NY? Can someone give me a link to AP results, thanks!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:08:17 PM
Sanford Bishop is out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
I'm gonna make some more publicity for the forum chat room, which right now is a liberal cryfest with the possible exception of Morgan.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:09:54 PM
Dogget is actually a tad below 52% now, but has been called as winner.

Did I mention that Ron Kind is losing?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:10:07 PM
As I mentioned long ago...

The path to victory in PA is either...
Super-overperformance in Philadelphia (over 500,000 votes at +80%), and Pittsburgh and very few other counties.
Very good performance in Philadelphia (over 400,000 votes at +80%), and Pittsburgh and several counties
Good performance in Philadelphia (over 300,000 votes at +80%), and Pittsburgh and very many other counties.

Unfortunately Sestak falls in none of the three.
He had very good performance in Philadelphia (over 429k at 84.1%! which pretty much eclipses Casey's performance), did alright in Pittsburgh (over 408k at 55%, but doesnt match Casey's 459k at 64.9%), but didn't win enough other counties.

If anyone had any doubts about Montgomery county being democratic, it is erased with this election.  Depending on how you equate things, Montgomery is either the 3rd or 4th most democratic county in PA (i say that because Delaware shows greater margins, but has fewer voters).

Delaware was Sestak's home county, and his seat was taken over by a Pubbie, and easily by an 11% margin. I agree with you on Montco. Montco was not hit that hard by the economic malaise, and does indeed have lots of folks who in the NY area, would live in Manhattan, on top of a fairly substantial black percentage. But Philly isn't Manhattan, so they live in the close in burbs. One killer for Sestak, is that Toomey is doing just fine in Chester County. That is a snap back county, along with Delaware, if Sestak was not from there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 10:11:45 PM
I worked for Doggett over the summer, and we got a lot of angry letters and calls, but they were always from the non-Travis/Hays part of the district. Never thought it would be this close. Jesus.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
Upstate NY update...

NY-19: 20% in, Hall down by ten.
NY-20: 32% in, Murphy down by ten.
NY-29: 19% in, Owens up by about three.
NY-24: 27% in, Arcuri down by eleven.
NY-22: 45% in, Hinchey up by nine.
NY-25: 20% in, Maffei down by two.
NY-29: 38% in, R lead of eleven.
NY-27: 12% in, Higgins up by five.

Very ugly for the Dems, but absent looking where the votes are from  ...

But NY-19 is not that heterogenious, so Hall is probably done, along with Murphy of course.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 02, 2010, 10:13:58 PM
with 30% in, 3300 (6.2%) votes for Doug Hoffman.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:14:03 PM
Critz and Altmire both made it. PA-7 fell, of course. For some reason PA-6 has yet to be called, despite Gerlach being on 56%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:16:19 PM
But NY-19 is not that heterogenious, so Hall is probably done, along with Murphy of course.

I haven't checked back on CT, but I can take some solace that your brief prediction of double digit Republican congressmen from New England didn't come to pass.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
Why has nothing from NV come in?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MasterJedi on November 02, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
Dogget is actually a tad below 52% now, but has been called as winner.

Did I mention that Ron Kind is losing?

As is Kagen and Dems looking unlikely to win Obey's empty seat either. Would be nice, 3 house seat pickup if it holds.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:18:34 PM
But NY-19 is not that heterogeneous, so Hall is probably done, along with Murphy of course.

I haven't checked back on CT, but I can take some solace that your brief prediction of double digit Republican congressmen from New England didn't come to pass.

I didn't predict it, I laughed at it - subtly. But I have not checked NE. I know the GOP got no seats in Mass, which I expected. I have not checked CT-4 and CT-5.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
Higgins is fine.

---

20% counted in NY-13 and there's nowt in it. 10% in NY-4... and McCarthy trails.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:19:31 PM
For all Feingold fans here: Don't forget that a democratic majority crucified Jesus and forced Socrates to commit suicide. That was my mantra in 06 and 08.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:19:34 PM
From Ralston on twitter:
Reid 54-42 in Clark. Huge lead. Heck just 400 votes ahead in CD3


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:19:38 PM
But NY-19 is not that heterogenious, so Hall is probably done, along with Murphy of course.

I haven't checked back on CT, but I can take some solace that your brief prediction of double digit Republican congressmen from New England didn't come to pass.

I didn't predict it, I laughed at it - subtely. But I have not checked NE. I know the GOP got no seats in Mass, which I expected. I have not checked CT-4 and CT-5.

Yeah, I knew it was hyperbole... am still curious if Republicans pick up anything outside NH.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: kevinatcausa on November 02, 2010, 10:20:28 PM
From what I've heard there's still lines at some polling places, and they've been holding off on releasing NV results until everyone's voted.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
Bobby Bright up by 8......votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
Any news on McCarthy-04 in NY? Can someone give me a link to AP results, thanks!

McCarthy is supposedly losing by 16 , but with very few votes in (10% of precincts, allegedly).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Ex-Factor on November 02, 2010, 10:21:51 PM

Unsubstantiated Twitter rumors says:
RosJordanAJE #Nevada state law doesn't allow vote counting in any statewide race if there's a problem @ one precinct when the polls close at 7pm.
37 seconds ago reply

RosJordanAJE The vote counting is BACK ON IN #NEVADA! A power failure at a Vegas polling station delayed the counting by 74 minutes.
about 1 minute ago

RosJordanAJE Still no results yet in #Nevada statewide elex, including the big Reid-Angle race -- thanks to the power failure at a Vegas polling place.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:22:42 PM
The anti-health care amendment in Colorado is losing 55%-45% and the anti-abortion amendment is losing 73%-27%


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 10:23:04 PM
The voters of GA-02 finally realized they were being represented by a black and voted accordingly. Too bad. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Napoleon XIV on November 02, 2010, 10:23:40 PM
Any news on McCarthy-04 in NY? Can someone give me a link to AP results, thanks!

McCarthy is supposedly losing by 16 , but with very few votes in (10% of precincts, allegedly).

News12 is telling me:

U.S. Congress - District 4  -- 110 of 565 precincts reporting (19%)
   Carolyn McCarthy* (D,WF)    9,290   51%   
   Francis Becker Jr. (R,I,C,TRP)    9,032   49%


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: kevinatcausa on November 02, 2010, 10:25:06 PM
Cao getting crushed in LA-02, 58-39. LA-03 is going 2-1 for the Republican.

Cao getting crushed was pretty much inevitable given his district, but still a bit disappointing. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 02, 2010, 10:25:12 PM
Higgins is fine.

---

20% counted in NY-13 and there's nowt in it. 10% in NY-4... and McCarthy trails.

Grimm is leading McMahon by 5 points in NY-13, despite Cuomo, Gillibrand, and Schumer all winning there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:25:38 PM
Lincoln Davis lost by like 20pts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 10:25:54 PM

He now trails Martha Roby (R) by less than two hundred votes with nearly 90% of precincts reporting.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 10:25:54 PM
The fact that Philadelphia was even able to bring him this close in this environment in the rest of the state is still something I find incredible though.

I don't.

Had Obama been able to increase black turnout by about 20%, Sestak would be a US Senator (instead of an unemployed admiral).

BTW:  You can, on January 4, 2011, drive from City Line Avenue to about 50 miles east of Pittsburgh and never driver through a Democratic Congressional District.  :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 10:26:06 PM
42% in 53.5% for Reid 42.5% Angle... Clark and Mineral and Carson City are the only ones in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 10:27:16 PM
Nassau BoE, which is ahead of the AP, has McCarthy up by 1 with 20% in:
http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/boe/results.html


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 10:27:30 PM
How's Colorado Senate coming along? I seem to conclude that Bennet is a very slight favorite....but I'm not seeing new numbers really.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 02, 2010, 10:28:39 PM
Nassau BoE, which is ahead of the AP, has McCarthy up by 1 with 20% in:
http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/boe/results.html

a little over 6 now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:29:21 PM
I put my mouse over Washington, and Rossi was up 6% with about 800,000 votes in, but no county results. That was on the CNN webstate. Is this real?

Addendum. CNN on the air has it now a Rossi lead of 8%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 10:29:45 PM
WTF Nevada??


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 10:30:10 PM
Toomey is up by 4 points.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:30:59 PM
How's Colorado Senate coming along? I seem to conclude that Bennet is a very slight favorite....but I'm not seeing new numbers really.

Bennet up 5 with Denver 41% in and Boulder 48% in nothing from Colorado Springs.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 10:31:46 PM
I don't understand what they're waiting for on PA


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
How's Colorado Senate coming along? I seem to conclude that Bennet is a very slight favorite....but I'm not seeing new numbers really.

Bennet up 5 with Denver 41% in and Boulder 48% in nothing from Colorado Springs.

At least in Boulder, I get the feeling Bennet is performing only slightly weaker than Salazar in 2004. Not sure how the rest of Colorado will react, but it seems Bennet is slightly ahead....is that correct?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:32:22 PM

All, and I mean all, the votes are from Clark County. The networks are such a joke. Pathetic!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 10:33:17 PM

All, and I mean all, the votes are from Clark County. The networks are such a joke. Pathetic!

Yeah they never bothered telling people that the huge early DEM leads in Illinois were from Cook County either.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:33:21 PM
How's Colorado Senate coming along? I seem to conclude that Bennet is a very slight favorite....but I'm not seeing new numbers really.

Bennet up 5 with Denver 41% in and Boulder 48% in nothing from Colorado Springs.

But quite a lot in from Douglas County, to be fair.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 02, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
Murray is +4 now that King is in.

Koster is ahead by less than 1 in WA-2, though!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 10:33:31 PM
I don't understand what they're waiting for on PA

A few times the media has called it wrong.  They are being careful.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 10:33:41 PM
Thank God, Nevada.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:34:08 PM
King County is at 0.00% in WA right now so I'm not too worried about Murray just yet. Down by 7%, at 30% in, with no King County in isn't too bad a position to be in for her.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 10:34:25 PM

He is only up by 0.7.

MSNBC says 52-48 (1.86mil to 1.73mil), but PA Election returns says 50.7-49.7 (1.9mil to 1.85mil).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 10:34:35 PM
Montco, probably.  

But Toomey should easily have it.  Part of Lancaster's still out, too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:35:11 PM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2010, 10:35:32 PM
It's all going to be up to Arapahoe and El Paso county who decides the next senator for CO. Looks like a late night!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:36:02 PM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.

On what basis do you say Reid has won?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tokar on November 02, 2010, 10:36:06 PM
MontCo is finished, 100% in.  They should call PA soon/now.

Sestak won MontCo 54.1-45.9 (+8.2%, +23.6k).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Zarn on November 02, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.

On what basis do you say Reid has won?

Well if the ultraconservative Vegas voted for him...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:36:44 PM
Dogget is actually a tad below 52% now, but has been called as winner.

Did I mention that Ron Kind is losing?

Kind has now nudged ahead. Teague is a gonner in NM-2.


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Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
John Spratt is done, first chairman to lose and Skelton is most likely going down too. I'm amazed Gene Taylor lost, that guy is so insanely right-wing for a Democrat even in Mississippi.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
Actually I was wrong, and Angle is losing Washoe County by a bit, with a lot of votes in. All these are early votes, and the polls said Angle would do much better with the today votes. We shall see, but Angle is in deep trouble.

But when you consider that the early votes were about evenly split in partisan affiliation ... ?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 02, 2010, 10:38:13 PM
OK, they can call California for Brown and Boxer already, seeing as they're leading and the state always becomes more Democratic as the night goes on.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 10:38:22 PM
39!  We just took the U.S. House!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Gene Taylor has been defeated.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 10:39:46 PM
Updated Dashboard:

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Very colorful.  The AP tally of NY-04 is behind; Dem is up now.  Otherwise, everything pretty much falls in line.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 10:40:15 PM
Dems win in IA-01, 02, and 03.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:40:31 PM
Actually I was wrong, and Angle is losing Washoe County by a bit, with a lot of votes in. All these are early votes, and the polls said Angle would do much better with the today votes. We shall see, but Angle is in deep trouble.

But when you consider that the early votes were about evenly split in partisan affiliation ... ?

I mentioned this somewhere else hours ago, but it would be funny if the three earliest seats we all thought were goners (CT, DE, NV) were all held by quirks of fate while several other seats fell anyway.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: The Mikado on November 02, 2010, 10:40:47 PM

Taylor's been an anachronism for decades.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 10:40:52 PM
Toomey 51, Sestak 49.  There is still a third of Lancaster county outstanding. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 10:40:56 PM
The Republican Party looks to be consolidating a decades-long shift by the South to the GOP, and it seems like it will be culminating this decade.  Consequentially, a lot of those seats in the South that have just been lost Democrats are never going to get back...  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 10:41:26 PM
OK, they can call California for Brown and Boxer already, seeing as they're leading and the state always becomes more Democratic as the night goes on.

Absentees (and that is what the CA vote is at the moment) used to be more heavily GOP by a substantial margin, but in the past 10 years that has largely disappeared. But given the exit poll, and the absentee numbers (narrow Dem leads), unless there are big county discrepancies, the Pubbies in CA are done.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:41:47 PM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.

On what basis do you say Reid has won?
Numbers I saw said Reid had leads in Clark and Washoe County(5%). Angle would have to rack up huge margins in the rural counties to have a chance to win at this point(or so says Ralston anyway, who I'm putting my trust in)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:41:56 PM

Turnout in liberal bastions in Iowa was through the roof this year per afternoon reports.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 02, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
Benton and Yakima counties may knock Murray down to +2 or so, but I don't see her falling below that.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:42:47 PM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.

On what basis do you say Reid has won?
Numbers I saw said Reid had leads in Clark and Washoe County(5%). Angle would have to rack up huge margins in the rural counties to have a chance to win at this point(or so says Ralston anyway, who I'm putting my trust in)

My judgment of Ralston over the past week was that he's blowing sunshine up our asses. That said, I want to go to bed and this and Bennet are the only races I still care about.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 10:42:56 PM
The Republican Party looks to be consolidating a decades-long shift by the South to the GOP, and it seems like it will be culminating this decade.  Consequentially, a lot of those seats in the South that have just been lost Democrats are never going to get back...  

No worries for the Dems, though.  Once the radicalism of having the GOP finally in control of the South sets in, the cleansing of the Northeast and West Coast will cancel it out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
Solomon Ortiz is in real trouble.  He may hold on, but it'll be close.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 10:45:34 PM
Toomey 51, Sestak 49.  There is still a third of Lancaster county outstanding. 

Which means it can only get better.  Time to call it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 10:46:30 PM
Russ Carnahan is barely ahead.

Schrader looks to be heading to re-election in OR-05. Major SUSA fail.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 10:46:50 PM

He now trails Martha Roby (R) by less than two hundred votes with nearly 90% of precincts reporting.  

Her lead has been extended to over 230 votes w/ 90% of precincts reporting.

Needless to say, there will be a recount here too I presume. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 02, 2010, 10:47:15 PM
Is this speech really happening?!?!!?

John Boehner is about to collapse from grief.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:47:52 PM
Toomey pulled it off. 99% career ACU rating from Pennsylvania will be sweet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 02, 2010, 10:47:55 PM
The Republicans would be ripping any Democrat who would blubber and weep like Boehner just did.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 10:48:30 PM
He just showed weakness. That was embarrassing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 10:49:29 PM
Obama and the Tea Party are going to beat this guy like a drum and he knows it.

The Republicans have not yet found a replacement for Tom Delay in the ass-kicking department.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
This really was not an endorsement of Republicans. I fear that Republicans will waste their chance to work with the President and Democrats, and do really positive things, by creating deadlock because they may over read their mandate.

I honestly think that both are equally likely, but clearly, if Republicans read too much into the election, they'll face the voters' wrath in two years.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 10:50:15 PM
Did he actually weep tears of joy?  

--

Who are the 'girly men' now?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 10:50:59 PM
We still need 16% from Lancaster... it looks good for Toomey.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:51:52 PM
Boehner is apparently a frequent weeper. He cried when they kicked him from leadership in 1998.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 10:51:58 PM
Costa is winning big. SUSA's house polling was pretty crappy.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 10:53:52 PM
Murphy wins in CT-05. Another polling fail. Lieberman must be sweating bullets now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 7,052,770 on November 02, 2010, 10:54:02 PM
I knew it was coming, but I'm literally sick to my stomach over this.  I don't particularly care about Childers or any race in another state, but this one is a hit below the belt.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Frodo on November 02, 2010, 10:54:31 PM
Murray now hold a narrow lead over Rossi 50 to 49, with 59% of precincts reporting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 02, 2010, 10:55:38 PM
Angle is in deep deep trouble.  I think the networks may be ready to call this one.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: auburntiger on November 02, 2010, 10:56:03 PM
I never thought the margin would be THAT bad for Crist!

However, thank God we got rid of Grayson!

c'Mon SINK!!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
I want my money back!

I wonder how many heart attacks Phil suffered from while they counted this though?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
I lol'd when Bayner cried.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2010, 10:56:35 PM
Toomey pulled it off. 99% career ACU rating from Pennsylvania will be sweet.

For one term.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 10:57:08 PM
Looks like NH's delegation has once again completely switched. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:57:14 PM
I'm slightly disappointed GOP again hasn't done sh*t in New England except New Hampshire.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
Solomon Ortiz = dead.  Anyone want to place bets on whether Farenthold can hold more than one term?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 10:58:13 PM
Wow, it looks like Fiorina has a legitimate chance...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brandon H on November 02, 2010, 10:58:25 PM
LA-2 (426 of 431)
"Joseph" Cao (R)   34%   43,262
Anthony Marquize (N)   1%   1,871
"Jack" Radosta (N)   0%   637
Cedric Richmond (D)   64%   82,803

LA-3
"Jeff" Landry (R)   64%   108,957
Ravi Sangisetty (D)   36%   61,909

LA Senate
Michael Karlton Brown (N)   1%   9,955
R. A. "Skip" Galan (N)   1%   7,466
Milton Gordon (N)   0%   4,803
Randall Todd Hayes (L)   1%   13,946
Thomas G. "Tommy" LaFargue (O)   0%   4,037
William Robert "Bob" Lang, Jr. (O)   0%   5,732
William R. McShan (R)   0%   5,875
"Charlie" Melancon (D)   38%   475,566
Sam Houston Melton, Jr. (N)   0%   3,775
Michael Lane "Mike" Spears (O)   1%   9,178
David Vitter (R)   57%   715,276
Ernest D. Wooton (O)   1%   8,160


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 10:58:36 PM
Toomey pulled it off. 99% career ACU rating from Pennsylvania will be sweet.

For one term.

By 2016, President Palin will disenfranchise all liberals in America.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Wow, it looks like Fiorina has a legitimate chance...
It's already been called for Boxer..


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 11:00:31 PM
Is this speech really happening?!?!!?

John Boehner is about to collapse from grief.

No emotional; I cried less during my father's funeral.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2010, 11:02:24 PM
Solomon Ortiz = dead.  Anyone want to place bets on whether Farenthold can hold more than one term?

Redistricting just got much more interesting. A small chunk of the seats Republicans just won are going to vanish from beneath them, and it's only to the benefit of the national party that they'll be won by new Republicans in warmer states in 2012.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:03:17 PM
Heinrich is holding steady at 52-48.

Surprisingly, Bill Owens is holding on in NY-23.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 02, 2010, 11:03:34 PM
But NY-19 is not that heterogenious, so Hall is probably done, along with Murphy of course.

I haven't checked back on CT, but I can take some solace that your brief prediction of double digit Republican congressmen from New England didn't come to pass.

I didn't predict it, I laughed at it - subtely. But I have not checked NE. I know the GOP got no seats in Mass, which I expected. I have not checked CT-4 and CT-5.

Yeah, I knew it was hyperbole... am still curious if Republicans pick up anything outside NH.

They didn't, but it does look like Bass will win, so they get both NH seats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 11:05:08 PM
Wow, it looks like Fiorina has a legitimate chance...
It's already been called for Boxer..

With fifteen percent of precincts reporting in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 11:06:19 PM
My guess is Murray will win.  She's narrowly up in all 4 bellwethers.  (Whatcom, Snohomish, Pacific, Gray's Harbor).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 02, 2010, 11:07:42 PM
Wow, it looks like Fiorina has a legitimate chance...
It's already been called for Boxer..

With fifteen percent of precincts reporting in.

Reversing a call almost never happens.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 11:07:56 PM
I want my money back!

I wonder how many heart attacks Phil suffered from while they counted this though?

I say 4 ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:08:39 PM
Giffords looks to be winning in AZ-08; Grijalva ahead slightly as well.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 02, 2010, 11:10:37 PM
Murray +1.3 with only Cowlitz County left (leans Dem overall, but voted solidly for Rossi in 2008 so who knows). It's certainly not enough to erase her lead even if she did lose it.

Things to remember with Washington:
1) King County is huge and reports slower. This tends to increase the Democrat's numbers.
2) Polls were suggesting early voters favored Rossi---if true, Murray may expand her lead. But of course such cross tabs must be taken with a grain of salt, so we shall see.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:11:12 PM
Bishop has just barely pulled ahead in GA-02. Only 4% remaining.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 11:13:11 PM
Fox News Calls PA for Toomey.  Finally.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Erc on November 02, 2010, 11:13:55 PM
The Times appears to have called NY-19 and NY-20.  Glad to see some recovery here despite the mess that was Paladino.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
MA was a pleasant surprise in an otherwise pretty bad night.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 11:14:24 PM
Bishop has just barely pulled ahead in GA-02. Only 4% remaining.

drama!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 11:14:35 PM
Boxer is now ahead by only .3%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 11:14:46 PM
Yahoo! is saying both parties were winners tonights, as both parties will hold part of Congress. Since when has losing 7 or so Senate seats considered a good thing? The only reason this may appear remotely good is because Republicans were given ridiculously high expectations.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:16:30 PM
Yeah, it's pretty tough to spin this as a good night for Democrats. Could help Obama's re-election I guess, but that's about it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:17:45 PM
Any thoughts on CO-Sen?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:20:22 PM
Minnick is doing pretty badly in ID-01.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
Ben Quayle is up by 12 in AZ-03 with 56% in.  So much for that one flipping.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 11:21:41 PM
Can enough votes be found to save Russ Carnahan?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 11:21:42 PM

That's what I'd like to know... Don't understand what's going on there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 11:22:15 PM
Can enough votes be found to save Russ Carnahan?

Ah, wow. Just noticed that one.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:22:21 PM
Surprisingly, Bill Owens is holding on in NY-23.
The curse of Doug Hoffman!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Beet on November 02, 2010, 11:22:24 PM

He voted against the stimulus, against health care, against cap and trade, and against pork consistently. And he still lost.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2010, 11:23:04 PM
Some judge in Arapahoe county wanted to keep polls open so that's why the votes are coming in late.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 11:23:40 PM
The Times appears to have called NY-19 and NY-20.  Glad to see some recovery here despite the mess that was Paladino.

Grimm (R) was up by 3.5 in NY-13 with about 75% in.  Last I checked, a little more was out from Brooklyn than Staten Island.  Thus far, he's winning SI by 5, losing Brooklyn by 4.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:24:18 PM
And he was the token Democrat for the Tea Party and Club for Growth.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Kevin on November 02, 2010, 11:24:19 PM
IL has been called for Kirk, according to Fox.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 11:24:46 PM
I'm slightly disappointed GOP again hasn't done sh*t in New England except New Hampshire.

Foley in Connecticut?


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Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2010, 11:26:19 PM
Fiorina is leading again, according to NYT.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Sestak's children are awesome.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 02, 2010, 11:26:43 PM
Regarding TX-23, does it take 50% + 1 to avoid a runoff, or is a plurality enough to win?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 11:27:54 PM
I think this might be called "a deluge."


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 11:28:29 PM
Reid wins. Thanks again, Tea Party.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 11:28:53 PM
 They should have nominated Lowden.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2010, 11:29:09 PM
Reid holds NV, according to Fox.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 11:29:17 PM
Klein is down by nine.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 11:31:32 PM
What the hell happened in NV? Why was every poll wrong? :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: auburntiger on November 02, 2010, 11:31:48 PM
Why have they already called California for Boxer when it's bascially tied? And Nevada, well, it would have been bad either way. I guess Reid will still be Senate majority leader.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 11:31:54 PM

Yep.  Essex is the only county out.  Owens will almost certainly hold on - he won it in the special election.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:32:18 PM
Reid's political machine/GOTV effort deserves all the credit it gets.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 02, 2010, 11:34:37 PM
McMahon is gone. Bishop still ahead by a hair; that race has been weirdly stable all night.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 02, 2010, 11:34:39 PM
I will be amazed if Bennet survives as well. Impressive.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: auburntiger on November 02, 2010, 11:34:58 PM
What the hell happened in NV? Why was every poll wrong? :(

2008 all over again. Underpolling of Democrats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 02, 2010, 11:35:58 PM
Why have they already called California for Boxer when it's bascially tied? And Nevada, well, it would have been bad either way. I guess Reid will still be Senate majority leader.

Based off what is in.  Very little of San Francisco is in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 11:36:48 PM
HARRY REID WINS!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 02, 2010, 11:37:15 PM

Thank you Sharron Angle!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 11:37:47 PM

Boo


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 11:37:54 PM
Lol Sharon Angle.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 02, 2010, 11:38:08 PM
Haha. Angle Fail.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnCA246 on November 02, 2010, 11:38:22 PM
very little of OC and LA as well


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 02, 2010, 11:38:35 PM
McMahon is gone. Bishop still ahead by a hair; that race has been weirdly stable all night.

86% in Bishop up 51.07-48.93


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 11:38:37 PM
So the Tear Party won what? Paul? Buck looks to be in trouble. Angle, O'Donnell lost. Rubio won, but he's not really been a crazy tea partier.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 11:38:55 PM
Sanford Bishop is apparently up slightly, despite the race having already been called against him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Beet on November 02, 2010, 11:39:13 PM
The Republicans could have crushed Reid with Lowden or that Japanese guy.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 11:39:47 PM
Does anyone feel bad for Schumer now?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Iosif on November 02, 2010, 11:40:20 PM
Back from the dead! Harry Reid is an awesome politician.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnCA246 on November 02, 2010, 11:40:39 PM
I'm having a tea party tomorrow


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 02, 2010, 11:40:42 PM

Little children often are.
Poor Toomey's kids will have to miss daddy for the next 6 years. I feel their pain.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 02, 2010, 11:41:02 PM

^^, haha.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on November 02, 2010, 11:41:24 PM
What the hell happened in NV? Why was every poll wrong? :(

Shy-ToryDemocrat effect?
Lationos turning out in larger numbers than expected?

Tea Party fail tonight. Republicans would have won the Senate if it wasn't for them.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 02, 2010, 11:41:42 PM

now, if somehow the GOP establishment can pin the loses in DE and NV on Palin....the GOP could kill Palin while still having Obama/Reid as the face of the Dems in 2012.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dave from Michigan on November 02, 2010, 11:41:50 PM
yeah hopefully the Tea party loses some of it's influence and dies or goes away, I agree with the tea party on some issues but the candidates they supported were awful. They are bad for the republican party


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
So Carnahan pulled back up by 500 votes.  Looks like there will be enough to save him to me.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 02, 2010, 11:42:12 PM
I'm slightly disappointed GOP again hasn't done sh*t in New England except New Hampshire.

Foley in Connecticut?

I thought Fox projected Malloy the winner despite Foley's lead.  Did I mishear?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ogre Mage on November 02, 2010, 11:42:50 PM
Back from the dead! Harry Reid is an awesome politician.

Terrible in front of the camera, but behind the scenes he is a wizard.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 11:42:53 PM
I love how the tea party excuses are "oh well those are blue states anyway, no Republican would have won there."


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 02, 2010, 11:42:56 PM
CO-7 only has 15% reporting, but Frazier's pretty far behind. does he stand a chance?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:42:59 PM
Colorado looks like its coming down to Boulder and Denver(both around 50% in) vs El Paso County(17% in).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on November 02, 2010, 11:43:24 PM
So the Tear Party won what? Paul? Buck looks to be in trouble. Angle, O'Donnell lost. Rubio won, but he's not really been a crazy tea partier.

Toomey?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 11:43:51 PM

now, if somehow the GOP establishment can pin the loses in DE and NV on Palin....the GOP could kill Palin while still having Obama/Reid as the face of the Dems in 2012.

The problem is that they'll put Johnson, Haley, and Ayotte in due to Tea Party and Palin Power.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 11:44:11 PM
The Tea Party is dead. Trust me, but 2012, it will be a shadow of its former self.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 11:44:29 PM
Can Rossi pull off a win still?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:44:43 PM
CO-7 only has 15% reporting, but Frazier's pretty far behind. does he stand a chance?

CNN already called it for Perlmutter.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 02, 2010, 11:44:44 PM
Oh hot damn, Tim Bishop's up 2 with 10% remaining...gotta hope what's left is in the Hamptons...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:45:22 PM
Yeah, what little is left is from St. Louis.

I'm kind of astounded by McMahon's loss. Didn't see that one coming. Bet he didn't either.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 11:46:04 PM
Buck just took a 1.7% lead in CO with 48% reporting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 11:46:26 PM
Yeah, what little is left is from St. Louis.

I'm kind of astounded by McMahon's loss. Didn't see that one coming. Bet he didn't either.

Agreed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 02, 2010, 11:46:50 PM
CNN just called it for Harry Reid.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dave from Michigan on November 02, 2010, 11:46:58 PM
please let this kill the tea party and Palin, must kill Palin (politically)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 11:47:16 PM
Buck is still down a pt with 70% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 11:47:20 PM
The Republicans could have crushed Reid with Lowden or that Japanese guy.

Don't you mean the Armenian guy?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 02, 2010, 11:47:21 PM
Roby wins in AL-02, and McKinley in WV-01. So much for those DINOs.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 11:48:17 PM
That's what happens when you choose two idiots in DE and NV.  Two shoe-ins lost.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 02, 2010, 11:48:36 PM
So the Tear Party won what? Paul? Buck looks to be in trouble. Angle, O'Donnell lost. Rubio won, but he's not really been a crazy tea partier.

Toomey?

Toomey is a Club for Growther.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 02, 2010, 11:48:45 PM
Sam's Staten Island theory didn't seem to hold


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 02, 2010, 11:48:55 PM
Whoa, Republicans got back their Staten Island/Brooklyn seat? With ... that guy? Ouch.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 11:49:30 PM
Yeah, what little is left is from St. Louis.

I'm kind of astounded by McMahon's loss. Didn't see that one coming. Bet he didn't either.

Well, it is Staten Island after all. Republicans should win that seat every time they are having this kind of a night.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 02, 2010, 11:49:42 PM
Sam's Staten Island theory didn't seem to hold

"Staten Island is notoriously difficult to poll"


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on November 02, 2010, 11:49:42 PM
There was no more despicable candidate in this race than Sharron Angle.  I feel a little better about tonight seeing Harry Reid hang on.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2010, 11:49:43 PM
Buck might pull it off near the end, still too close to call.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 11:49:45 PM
Yeah, what little is left is from St. Louis.

I'm kind of astounded by McMahon's loss. Didn't see that one coming. Bet he didn't either.

Would have never thought Staten Island would vote for a Brooklyner.  OH well...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 02, 2010, 11:51:07 PM
Any returns from Alaska yet?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 02, 2010, 11:51:22 PM
Sam's Staten Island theory didn't seem to hold

I'm shocked, frankly.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:51:26 PM
Buck is still down a pt with 70% in.
Where are you getting those numbers? I'm only seeing 45% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2010, 11:53:41 PM
Second election in a row that Dems underpoll in Nevada...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Barnes on November 02, 2010, 11:53:43 PM
Sanford Bishop is apparently up slightly, despite the race having already been called against him.

According to the Sec. of State, he's behind by just 500 votes.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2010_1102/00302.htm


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 02, 2010, 11:53:47 PM

Me too, McMahon seemed so strong with local support


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 11:53:54 PM
Is Buck really leading in Boulder?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 02, 2010, 11:54:04 PM
At 30% of the vote in, Fiorina is now leading in California and won San Benito county. I wonder if it was called too soon.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 02, 2010, 11:54:52 PM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dave from Michigan on November 02, 2010, 11:55:34 PM
At 30% of the vote in, Fiorina is now leading in California and won San Benito county. I wonder if it was called too soon.


Boxer will win, that would be crazy if we lost Nevada but won California.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 11:55:50 PM
Buck is winning Boulder? What?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 11:56:03 PM
Minnick is done. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 02, 2010, 11:56:07 PM
He wasn't before, but he just took the lead there...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 11:56:32 PM
There's no way this is real...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 11:56:32 PM
*head explodes*


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 02, 2010, 11:57:16 PM
49-46% Buck with 3/4 in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 02, 2010, 11:57:48 PM
At 30% of the vote in, Fiorina is now leading in California and won San Benito county. I wonder if it was called too soon.

Yet it's been called for Boxer, and everyone's acting like she ing won.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 02, 2010, 11:58:39 PM
Only 18% in Colorado Springs. Buck wins this. I can't explain Boulder though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 02, 2010, 11:59:05 PM

Minnick needed Jesus to endorse him to stay alive in this cycle.

Oh, and Ben Quayle won relatively easily despite some bad polling.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: InquilineKea on November 02, 2010, 11:59:17 PM
Boulder
Updated 10 minutes ago
Buck
   
64,185
   52%
Bennet
(Incumbent)
   
55,186
   45%
87% of precincts reporting

===

Seriously, wtf???


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 02, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
Roby wins in AL-02, and McKinley in WV-01. So much for those DINOs.
Minnick is probably done as well.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 02, 2010, 11:59:43 PM
Only 18% in Colorado Springs. Buck wins this. I can't explain Boulder though.

Neither can I, and I live there!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:00:05 AM
The polling this cycle has been really screwy, hasn't it?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:00:08 AM
Computer error in the counting?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on November 03, 2010, 12:00:16 AM
92% of LA votes still have to come in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: exopolitician on November 03, 2010, 12:00:33 AM
I would love my life a lot of Bennet just edges this out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:00:43 AM
Definite computer error, this is not possible. No, no, no, no, no!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 12:01:10 AM
Oh hot damn, Tim Bishop's up 2 with 10% remaining...gotta hope what's left is in the Hamptons...

50.92-49.08 Bishop up 95% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:01:58 AM
I think this is an error...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: sg0508 on November 03, 2010, 12:02:49 AM
The burbs are still outstanding in CO, which does not favor Buck.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 12:02:59 AM
Looking on the Denver Post, not seeing anything.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:03:31 AM
Minnick needed Jesus to endorse him to stay alive in this cycle.

Oh, and Ben Quayle won relatively easily despite some bad polling.
He was doing quite well until recently.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 03, 2010, 12:04:02 AM
MN-8 is pretty close, though only a fifth of St Louis is in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 03, 2010, 12:05:00 AM
It's very close. I don't see why not.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 03, 2010, 12:06:46 AM
It might be an error for Boulder, the numbers should be switched. If not, then Buck leading in that county is unrealistic.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: MasterJedi on November 03, 2010, 12:07:09 AM
Rumor now is Feingold will challange Obama in 2012 to try and keep him left if anything.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:07:45 AM
Rumor now is Feingold will challange Obama in 2012 to try and keep him left if anything.

Lol, I would support Feingold.:P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: exopolitician on November 03, 2010, 12:08:03 AM
Even now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 7,052,770 on November 03, 2010, 12:08:18 AM
Where are you getting these CO numbers?  I only see 50% reporting...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 12:08:34 AM
Rumor now is Feingold will challange Obama in 2012 to try and keep him left if anything.

What homeless guy told you that?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:09:03 AM
It might be an error for Boulder, the numbers should be switched. If not, then Buck leading in that county is unrealistic.
Even then, it would be completely unrealistic for Buck to be doing so poorly in the Denver suburbs and then somehow clean up the Boulder suburbs which are even more liberal. It absolutely no sense.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
Hawaii results:

http://hawaii.gov/elections/results/2010/general/files/histatewide.pdf

Hanabusa's leading Djou by 8.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 12:10:44 AM
US SENATOR       
      Total
Number of Precincts       438    
Precincts Reporting       121    27.6 %
Times Counted       69402/494876    14.0 %
Total Votes       68822    
Carter, Tim    NA    251    0.36%
Gianoutsos, Ted    NA    120    0.17%
Haase, Fredrick    LIB    381    0.55%
McAdams, Scott T.    DEM    17424    25.32%
Miller, Joe    REP    23504    34.15%
Write-in Votes      27142    39.44%

Based on where these votes are coming from, Murkowski has a very good shot at pulling this off.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 03, 2010, 12:10:44 AM
No tears over Herseth-Sandlin???


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 03, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
Murkoski (R-AK)

(Projected winner)



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 12:11:54 AM
It might be an error for Boulder, the numbers should be switched. If not, then Buck leading in that county is unrealistic.

It was. It is back up to 60-some% for Bennet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 12:12:05 AM
Has a write-in campaign ever been more successful? 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 12:12:33 AM
It would make more sense for Russ Feingold to become Chief of Staff, though completely unlikely.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:13:00 AM
It might be an error for Boulder, the numbers should be switched. If not, then Buck leading in that county is unrealistic.

It was. It is back up to 60-some% for Bennet.
Good, because that almost gave me a heart attack when I first saw it. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 03, 2010, 12:13:00 AM
Boulder is normal now guys...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:13:07 AM
One tear, but I was expecting her to win. She vill be back.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:13:25 AM
What the hell is going on in Colorado right now?  It feels like Florida over there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 03, 2010, 12:13:52 AM
Minnick needed Jesus to endorse him to stay alive in this cycle.

Oh, and Ben Quayle won relatively easily despite some bad polling.
He was doing quite well until recently.
has someone called it?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 03, 2010, 12:14:22 AM
Has a write-in campaign ever been more successful? 

Didn't Strom Thurmond win as a write-in candidate?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: InquilineKea on November 03, 2010, 12:14:39 AM
Haha, I love it how Buck's price fell 20 pts on Intrade once Boulder was corrected.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 03, 2010, 12:15:25 AM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.

Yeah, it sucks.

Meek got destroyed in the panhandle.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 12:15:26 AM
I hate the greens so much.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
The Times appears to have called NY-19 and NY-20.  Glad to see some recovery here despite the mess that was Paladino.

Grimm (R) was up by 3.5 in NY-13 with about 75% in.  Last I checked, a little more was out from Brooklyn than Staten Island.  Thus far, he's winning SI by 5, losing Brooklyn by 4.

Some network called it for Grimm. That is a big upset. New York in down ballot races was not kind to Dems.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:16:25 AM
Murkowski leading with 20 percent in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 03, 2010, 12:16:44 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 03, 2010, 12:16:47 AM
so, project the rest out for me, guys....what is the current expected GOP net in the House when it is all said and done?  50? 60? 70?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 12:16:49 AM
Colorado is going to recount I bets.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 12:16:55 AM
Matheson is only 5 points ahead with about half of precincts still to report.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 03, 2010, 12:17:25 AM

Fixed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:18:27 AM

You don't actually think that those write-ins could seriously be anybody else?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 12:18:27 AM
so, project the rest out for me, guys....what is the current expected GOP net in the House when it is all said and done?  50? 60? 70?

Somewhere in between 60 and 70.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 12:18:39 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.

Fiorina still has a shot, surprising really.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2010, 12:19:01 AM


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 12:19:26 AM
Matheson is only 5 points ahead with about half of precincts still to report.

Most of what's left is Salt Lake County, he should win comfortably there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:20:14 AM
Alright, El Paso County has finally blown its wad and still can't bring Buck to much of a lead. Still is 50% of Denver left, I think Bennett's got this one.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 03, 2010, 12:20:18 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.

Fiorina still has a shot, surprising really.

Not really. It's close, but she won't be winning.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: InquilineKea on November 03, 2010, 12:21:03 AM
Yeah I'm also sure Bennett's going to win; good time to buy some Bennett on intrade. Col. Springs at 82% and Denver still at 50%; plus lots of votes to still be counted in the Denver suburbs


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 03, 2010, 12:21:29 AM

Or how many of those write-ins have her name spelled right.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:21:58 AM

Illinois?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:22:23 AM
How many blue dogs have survived? We have Holden, and Altmire, and Critz barely if you consider him a blue dog, and that guy in KY-6 barely, and maybe a seat in Georgia, and after that ... ?

I sure there may be a couple of others, but that is all I can think of at the moment. It has been slaughter alley. The parties are moving to rather clean ideological breaks, like a parliamentary system.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2010, 12:23:03 AM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.

They don't need 2/3? Sweet, I thought they did for some reason.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 12:23:11 AM
Yeah I'm also sure Bennett's going to win; good time to buy some Bennett on intrade. Col. Springs at 82% and Denver still at 50%; plus lots of votes to still be counted in the Denver suburbs

The Democratic areas could've been the first to report. I wouldn't write Buck off yet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 03, 2010, 12:23:13 AM

There could be some for Lisa M, and Lisa Murowski, and Lisa, and so on.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 12:23:35 AM

It's not specific to any particular race. It was the Colorado race that made me say that at the moment, but they are a perennial pain. President 2000 is the obvious uber-example.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: InquilineKea on November 03, 2010, 12:25:01 AM
Quote
The Democratic areas could've been the first to report. I wouldn't write Buck off yet.

Boulder is at 59% and Denver at 50%.

Colo. 4 at 71% , Colo. 5 at 75%. (both lean GOP)

Telluride (strong D) is still 0%, and Jefferson County (prolly wont change anything) at <1%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 12:25:39 AM
Yeah I'm also sure Bennett's going to win; good time to buy some Bennett on intrade. Col. Springs at 82% and Denver still at 50%; plus lots of votes to still be counted in the Denver suburbs

The Democratic areas could've been the first to report. I wouldn't write Buck off yet.

There's Republican areas in Denver?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:25:47 AM
so, project the rest out for me, guys....what is the current expected GOP net in the House when it is all said and done?  50? 60? 70?

Somewhere in between 60 and 70.

Nate Silver says, albeit 20 minutes ago:

There are now relatively few competitive House races yet to be called. Our model thinks that, by the time the night is over, Republican gains will be within the range of 62 to 72 seats.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 12:25:48 AM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.

Yeah, it sucks.

Meek got destroyed in the panhandle.

Why wouldn't you support fairly drawn districts?  If it's a partisan issue, remember that California is also giving up its chance at biggest Dem gerrymander in decades tonight, so I'm pretty sure it evens out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 12:26:19 AM
How many blue dogs have survived? We have Holden, and Altmire, and Critz barely if you consider him a blue dog, and that guy in KY-6 barely, and maybe a seat in Georgia, and after that ... ?

I sure there may be a couple of others, but that is all I can think of at the moment. It has been slaughter alley. The parties are moving to rather clean ideological breaks, like a parliamentary system.

Donnelly survived.  But I don't know whether to consider him a blue dog or not.  Not to mention Boren, Shuler and Ross.  But those three basically didn't vote like Dems this last session.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 03, 2010, 12:27:38 AM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.

Yeah, it sucks.

Meek got destroyed in the panhandle.

Why wouldn't you support fairly drawn districts?

Because how do you determine what a "non partisan" drawn district is? Plus you should see the groups that back this amendment. It sounds nice on paper but once you dig deeper it's odious at best.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Barnes on November 03, 2010, 12:28:08 AM
Bishop now ahead by 4,800 votes.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2010_1102/00302.htm


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:28:15 AM
Yeah I'm also sure Bennett's going to win; good time to buy some Bennett on intrade. Col. Springs at 82% and Denver still at 50%; plus lots of votes to still be counted in the Denver suburbs

The Democratic areas could've been the first to report. I wouldn't write Buck off yet.
I doubt it. Denver doesn't seem the type to have many Republican areas in it. This one is over barring a miracle.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 12:28:26 AM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.

They don't need 2/3? Sweet, I thought they did for some reason.

I think they need 3/5ths to pass.  Both are over 62% with 98% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 12:29:09 AM
Bishop now ahead by 4,800 votes.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2010_1102/00302.htm

Hilarious. Time to un-call it again...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 03, 2010, 12:30:15 AM
I'm glad Lisa Murkowski won. I was very concerned that Miller and her would split the Republican vote.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on November 03, 2010, 12:30:40 AM
Apparent voting error in Colorado.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 12:30:41 AM
What we learned about New England Polling:

Critical Insights really sucks.  Merriman sucks.  The Rhode Island pollsters aren't that bad.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Barnes on November 03, 2010, 12:31:40 AM
I'm glad Lisa Murkowski won. I was very concerned that Miller and her would split the Republican vote.

You do realize this race hasn't been called?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 03, 2010, 12:31:55 AM
If this hasn't already been noted, both of the Florida non-partisan redistricting amendments are over 60% and likely to pass.  The California non-partisan redistricting amendment is also over 60%.

They don't need 2/3? Sweet, I thought they did for some reason.

I think they need 3/5ths to pass.  Both are over 62% with 98% in.

No, 60%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 03, 2010, 12:32:32 AM
Associated Press and MSNBC seem to be reporting on the possibility of a massive vote-counting error in favor of Buck. Apparently up to 40,000 votes could've been mistakenly given to Buck.

Hope it's true.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dave from Michigan on November 03, 2010, 12:33:20 AM
is Buck a tea party guy


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 12:34:28 AM
What we learned about New England Polling:

Critical Insights really sucks.  Merriman sucks.  The Rhode Island pollsters aren't that bad.


We Ask America got lucky?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: InquilineKea on November 03, 2010, 12:34:29 AM
95% in El Paso and 94% in Douglas. No high-population Republican-leaning counties left. It's over.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2010, 12:35:16 AM
Surviving Blue Dogs (17):
    * Jason Altmire (PA-4)
    * Joe Baca (CA-43)
    * John Barrow (GA-12)
    * Dan Boren (OK-2)
    * Leonard Boswell (IA-3)
    * Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
    * Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
    * Joe Donnelly (IN-2)
    * Tim Holden (PA-17)
    * Jim Matheson (UT-2)
    * Mike McIntyre (NC-7)
    * Mike Michaud (ME-2)
    * Collin Peterson (MN-7)
    * Mike Ross (AR-4)
    * David Scott (GA-13)
    * Heath Shuler (NC-11) => only surviving member of the leadership
    * Mike Thompson (CA-1)

Too Close to Call (9):
    * Sanford Bishop (GA-2)
    * Ben Chandler (KY-6)
    * Jim Costa (CA-20)
    * Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8)
    * Jane Harman (CA-36)
    * Walt Minnick (ID-1)
    * Loretta Sanchez (CA-47)
    * Adam Schiff (CA-29)
    * Kurt Schrader (OR-5)

The caucus had 54 members before tonight.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Barnes on November 03, 2010, 12:36:03 AM
Bishop now ahead by 4,800 votes.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2010_1102/00302.htm

Hilarious. Time to un-call it again...

ABC's pulled it back, so has CNN.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Insula Dei on November 03, 2010, 12:37:01 AM
Murkowski win, really.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:37:13 AM
Buck is in deep trouble absent that 40,000 error which I just read above.  In fact, really almost time to call it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 12:37:45 AM
One last post of the dashboard now that we have results in all 139 races:

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A little conservative, Sam - but not bad.

I have it as Republicans leading in 68, losing in 3 Dem targets, for R+65 (but CT-04 will likely flip, lowering it to R+64).  In the called races, it's R+50.  In those 100% in, it's R+23.

If I've done the math right, the average PVI of the seats Republcians lead  is R+4.7.  The least Republican is D+5 - but that might be CT-04.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:37:55 AM
Congrats to Senator Bennett on his 99% certain victory. I'm going to bed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:39:18 AM
Great work Lief. Thanks for setting me straight. Not that I consider all on your list remotely blue dogs, but they are not in the forefront of the "yes we can" agenda either.

Plus 65 seats eh, Cinyc? What was my predicted number again?  :)  By the way, it is 64, with probably 3 or 4 on either side of that. The Pubbie is not going to win CT-4. Look at what's out.

Sure, I got about 15 seats wrong, but they went both ways. Sometimes statistics works in your favor. :P And I suspect the generic number I used to generate the number was pretty close too.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 12:40:20 AM
There's one actual precinct left in VA-11. It's one that Fimian won in 2008. Connolly's lead is currently 487 votes. This one is not going to be over for a while.

Also, for a guy that was considered DOA, Perriello made it close. He ended up losing by 51-47. Boucher lost 51-46, and Nye got clobbered 53-42.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 12:41:28 AM
What we learned about New England Polling:

Critical Insights really sucks.  Merriman sucks.  The Rhode Island pollsters aren't that bad.


We Ask America got lucky?

I think I might have read somewhere that We Ask America's polls were done by Voter/Consumer Research, Mitt Romney's internal pollster- though it might have been bottom-of-the-barrel push pollster ccAdvertising.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 12:43:12 AM
Bishop looks to have it locked.  He is up 50.93-49.07 (3,332 votes)  99.35% in (all but 3 precincts are in)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 03, 2010, 12:43:52 AM
I'm actually surprised that West won by 9 points in FL-22.  I thought it would be much closer.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 03, 2010, 12:44:32 AM
Bishop will brag about this for the rest of his life. His Dewey defeats Truman moment.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2010, 12:44:41 AM

sho nuff


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: jimrtex on November 03, 2010, 12:46:24 AM
I worked for Doggett over the summer, and we got a lot of angry letters and calls, but they were always from the non-Travis/Hays part of the district. Never thought it would be this close. Jesus.
Campbell 60.5/37.4 outside of Travis
Doggett 65.7/37.2 in Travis


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 12:48:27 AM
Thanks cinyc.  For the House, everything turned out quite well with the rankings.  Like the dashboard too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:49:49 AM
Buck is done with or without the voting error.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:51:12 AM
There was a vote counting error in Bishop's district, it looks like he's going to win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 12:52:09 AM
Uh, Jefferson still has <1% reporting. It has some strong Republican areas in it. Ditto for Arapahoe, which has only 10% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 12:54:49 AM
Okay Vepres, we'll see who is right. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 12:56:00 AM
Harry Reid: STREETFIGHTER


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2010, 12:56:00 AM
Harry Reid giving his victory speech. Someone teach the man to smile for pete's sake! Whoever got him to smile for his campaign ads deserves an advertising Emmy.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 12:59:53 AM
Do they check if the write-ins are valid when they count the votes?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: exopolitician on November 03, 2010, 01:00:39 AM
Washington is taking for....ever....


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 01:02:18 AM
I'm definitely going to be staying up late to see what happens to Minnick.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 03, 2010, 01:02:41 AM
Toomey pulled it off. 99% career ACU rating from Pennsylvania will be sweet.

For one term.

By 2016, President Palin will disenfranchise all liberals in America.

Given what's happening in Alaska, it might be a legit question if she gets her own state's delegates in the Republican convention :))


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 01:10:14 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.

Fiorina still has a shot, surprising really.

No she doesn't.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 01:13:14 AM
Oberstar will clearly win in MN-8, even though he is behind at the moment. That will make BRTD happy. :)  And Giffords will probably pull it out, unless what is remaining in Tuscon versus the rest in Pima County is decidedly more Pubbie.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 01:14:44 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.

Fiorina still has a shot, surprising really.

No she doesn't.
Boxer has a three point lead now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 01:18:09 AM
Uh, Jefferson still has <1% reporting. It has some strong Republican areas in it. Ditto for Arapahoe, which has only 10% in.

About 1/2 of Jefferson is now in, Bennet slightly ahead, looks to be keeping pace with the early vote in Jefferson.  Very little of Araphoe still in, early vote went to Bennet.

With what is left in Boulder and Denver (and to a lesser extent Adams) considering all of Weld is in and the vast majority of El Paso and Douglas are in, Bennet will win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 03, 2010, 01:18:16 AM
MSNBC rolled out the B team. It's like amateur hour over there now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 01:18:54 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.

Fiorina still has a shot, surprising really.

No she doesn't.
Boxer has a three point lead now.

Los Angeles County is only 23% reporting. Same with Alameda, Santa Clara, and Santa Cruz.

She's done done done.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 01:19:05 AM
Most counties in Washington are done reporting for the night, just FYI...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 03, 2010, 01:20:14 AM
Looks like the west has saved the Democrats from a truly horrible year.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: King on November 03, 2010, 01:21:19 AM
I am quite surprised by the quick call for Boxer. This one is going to be close, although Boxer should win.

Fiorina still has a shot, surprising really.

No she doesn't.
Boxer has a three point lead now.

Los Angeles County is only 23% reporting. Same with Alameda, Santa Clara, and Santa Cruz.

She's done done done.

Boxer just quoted me.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 03, 2010, 01:23:48 AM
Buck will lose. I wonder when the voters will wake up and see the failure of the tea party?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 03, 2010, 01:24:10 AM
Uh, Jefferson still has <1% reporting. It has some strong Republican areas in it. Ditto for Arapahoe, which has only 10% in.

About 1/2 of Jefferson is now in, Bennet slightly ahead, looks to be keeping pace with the early vote in Jefferson.  Very little of Araphoe still in, early vote went to Bennet.

With what is left in Boulder and Denver (and to a lesser extent Adams) considering all of Weld is in and the vast majority of El Paso and Douglas are in, Bennet will win.

If he does win, and I'm pretty cautiously optimistic about it, it will certainly prove that going on the attack and refusing to toe the line of conventional wisdom on social issues can be a benefit to you. Bennet hit Buck hard with accusations of him being an extremist on abortion and wasn't afraid to throw it in his face while debating him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 01:26:32 AM
Uh, Jefferson still has <1% reporting. It has some strong Republican areas in it. Ditto for Arapahoe, which has only 10% in.

About 1/2 of Jefferson is now in, Bennet slightly ahead, looks to be keeping pace with the early vote in Jefferson.  Very little of Araphoe still in, early vote went to Bennet.

With what is left in Boulder and Denver (and to a lesser extent Adams) considering all of Weld is in and the vast majority of El Paso and Douglas are in, Bennet will win.

If he does win, and I'm pretty cautiously optimistic about it, it will certainly prove that going on the attack and refusing to toe the line of conventional wisdom on social issues can be a benefit to you. Bennet hit Buck hard with accusations of him being an extremist on abortion and wasn't afraid to throw it in his face while debating him.

It's risky. It did backfire on Grayson, after all.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 03, 2010, 01:28:23 AM
Uh, Jefferson still has <1% reporting. It has some strong Republican areas in it. Ditto for Arapahoe, which has only 10% in.

About 1/2 of Jefferson is now in, Bennet slightly ahead, looks to be keeping pace with the early vote in Jefferson.  Very little of Araphoe still in, early vote went to Bennet.

With what is left in Boulder and Denver (and to a lesser extent Adams) considering all of Weld is in and the vast majority of El Paso and Douglas are in, Bennet will win.

If he does win, and I'm pretty cautiously optimistic about it, it will certainly prove that going on the attack and refusing to toe the line of conventional wisdom on social issues can be a benefit to you. Bennet hit Buck hard with accusations of him being an extremist on abortion and wasn't afraid to throw it in his face while debating him.

It's risky. It did backfire on Grayson, after all.

It backfired on Grayson because he conducts himself like a raving lunatic. Bennet is much more restrained in his personality.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2010, 01:30:40 AM
Uh, Jefferson still has <1% reporting. It has some strong Republican areas in it. Ditto for Arapahoe, which has only 10% in.

About 1/2 of Jefferson is now in, Bennet slightly ahead, looks to be keeping pace with the early vote in Jefferson.  Very little of Araphoe still in, early vote went to Bennet.

With what is left in Boulder and Denver (and to a lesser extent Adams) considering all of Weld is in and the vast majority of El Paso and Douglas are in, Bennet will win.

If he does win, and I'm pretty cautiously optimistic about it, it will certainly prove that going on the attack and refusing to toe the line of conventional wisdom on social issues can be a benefit to you. Bennet hit Buck hard with accusations of him being an extremist on abortion and wasn't afraid to throw it in his face while debating him.

It's risky. It did backfire on Grayson, after all.

It backfired on Grayson because he conducts himself like a raving lunatic. Bennet is much more restrained in his personality.

dDing ding ding ding! Correct answer!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 03, 2010, 01:32:42 AM
How are you holding up tonight, Badger? Not a good night for us Ohio Dems. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Looks like the west has saved the Democrats from a truly horrible year.

Yeah. From Pennsylvania to Iowa, Democrats did terribly in statewide races.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2010, 01:38:18 AM
How are you holding up tonight, Badger? Not a good night for us Ohio Dems. :(

Needing a drink, and resolving myself to go to bed. Knowing Reid, Murray and Bennett all have apparently held on actually exceeds my expectations for the Senate, so I guess that's a silver lining. The House losses are worse then I expected, and seeing even Cordray and Wilson going down sucks, but at least I have that genuine relative success in the Senate to keep me from tossing and turning all night.

Night all.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 03, 2010, 01:40:35 AM
Well that's three Senate seats the teabaggers cost the GOP it appears (CO, NV and DE)

Got to hand it to Bennet though, his pulling through was also largely thanks to him. Good job Bennet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 01:41:31 AM
All of Douglas is now in.  Buck up 6,865,  I don't see anyway how Buck wins this outside of some other error out there which went the other way.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 01:47:51 AM
I watched CNN for 15 minutes and almost barfed. Now I remember why I told myself I was going to avoid any election coverage on TV. I wasn't really disappointed with these results until I saw Erik Erikson and other such goons having near on screen orgasms. All they did when someone brought up the point "governing is going to be difficult" is say "DON'T DIMINISH OUR VICTORY".

I would not say that things look peachy for the GOP in 2012, or for the Democrats really. It's the perfect time for a third party to come into play or for a movement to completely take over one of the parties.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 01:48:47 AM
MSNBC rolled out the B team. It's like amateur hour over there now.

Fox News did too - but Michael Barone is now on the B team for some bizarre reason.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 01:50:44 AM
I would not say that things look peachy for the GOP in 2012, or for the Democrats really. It's the perfect time for a third party to come into play or for a movement to completely take over one of the parties.

How we need a viable third party...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 01:51:26 AM
Great work Lief. Thanks for setting me straight. Not that I consider all on your list remotely blue dogs, but they are not in the forefront of the "yes we can" agenda either.

Plus 65 seats eh, Cinyc? What was my predicted number again?  :)  By the way, it is 64, with probably 3 or 4 on either side of that. The Pubbie is not going to win CT-4. Look at what's out.

Sure, I got about 15 seats wrong, but they went both ways. Sometimes statistics works in your favor. :P And I suspect the generic number I used to generate the number was pretty close too.



Yes, Torie - it looks like you'll be right on the money.  The Republican isn't going to win CT-04 - the New York Times called it for Himes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 01:55:48 AM
Thanks cinyc.  For the House, everything turned out quite well with the rankings.  Like the dashboard too.

The only thing that sticks out as out of place is OR-05 - but that's largely SUSA's fault.

And on the other side, NY-13 and maybe IL-08, depending on the final result there.  But otherwise, an excellent job ranking the races.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:01:58 AM
The GOP shot its was in Yuma County, and came up a bit short. AZ-7 stays Dem. AZ-08 is about certain to remain Dem, in fact I really should call that one too. And Labrador has won ID-01, over the Dem Minnick. If it has not been called, it should.

It is possible that the GOP will gain no seats in CA. Stay tuned. The GOP margins with mostly just absentee ballots are very thin in CA-11 and CA-20, and Tran is behind by 5 points in CA-47, although with the Vietnamese thing, maybe absentees there will have less of a lean.

Oh, and Djou is behind a tad in the absentees. He is in trouble. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 03, 2010, 02:02:13 AM
     Seems Labrador is leading Minnick by 8%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:06:17 AM
    Seems Labrador is leading Minnick by 8%.

And the bulk of what is left is in Labrador country in Ada County. This one is over.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ucscgaldamez on November 03, 2010, 02:07:06 AM
will they continue updating through the night?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:07:25 AM
Now if I could only figure out exactly what was left in St. Louis County.  Do they even know?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:10:40 AM
Now if I could only figure out exactly what was left in St. Louis County.  Do they even know?

How many precincts in St. Louis County are GOP?  Oberstar has won unless I missed something.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:12:16 AM
Now if I could only figure out exactly what was left in St. Louis County.  Do they even know?

How many precincts in St. Louis County are GOP?  Oberstar has won unless I missed something.

CNN says he's down 2500, with 92% of precincts and 97% from St. Louis (rest of stuff "out" should be good for Cravaack).  But I don't necessarily believe this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 02:13:15 AM
Labrador's 50% win is still laughably weak. I demand a 2012 rematch!

Yeah though it looks like I did all of that volunteering for nothing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:14:22 AM
When I looked 45 minutes ago, it was listed as 22% in from St. Louis County, and in fact it was much higher, and now 97%

St. Louis
Updated 11 minutes ago
Oberstar
(Incumbent)
   
47,468
   57%
Cravaack
   
32,968
   40%
97% of precincts reporting

Addendum: And for the rest of the story we have this:

Isanti
Updated 1 minute ago
Cravaack
   
4,970
   55%
Oberstar
(Incumbent)
   
3,512
   39%
67% of precincts reporting

And what little is out in other counties, is slightly pro the Pubbie.

Oberstar has lost!

Addendum 2: BRTD, the reason St. Louis County was anemic for Oberstar was the abortion issue. Deal with it. Dayton is carrying it by a much bigger margin. Sure send Obama a message in a way a governor's race just doesn't have quite as much traction (particularly in a state not as economically prostrate as most), was part of it too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 03, 2010, 02:15:05 AM
    Seems Labrador is leading Minnick by 8%.

And the bulk of what is left is in Labrador country in Ada County. This one is over.

     ID-01 was a seat that only fell to begin with by a combination of a weak incumbent, a strong challenger, & a strong tide against the incumbent's party. The Democrats probably won't see it again for decades.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sewer on November 03, 2010, 02:15:28 AM
god damn it angle shut up


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 02:16:18 AM
So, what the greatest R+x seat held by a Dem for the next Congress?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:16:38 AM
When I looked 45 minutes ago, it was listed as 22% in from St. Louis County, and in fact it was much higher, and now 97%

St. Louis
Updated 11 minutes ago
Oberstar
(Incumbent)
   
47,468
   57%
Cravaack
   
32,968
   40%
97% of precincts reporting



So, after being king of Kentucky for today by nailing Rand Paul's numbers (56-44) and the Dem holds there, if I call Dayton by 1, Walz wins and Oberstar loses, do I get to be king of Minnesota for a day?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 02:17:34 AM
Well at least I called Labrador winning correctly...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 03, 2010, 02:18:58 AM
All right, what's going on with MN-08?  Who is likely to win at this point?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:19:57 AM
When I looked 45 minutes ago, it was listed as 22% in from St. Louis County, and in fact it was much higher, and now 97%

St. Louis
Updated 11 minutes ago
Oberstar
(Incumbent)
   
47,468
   57%
Cravaack
   
32,968
   40%
97% of precincts reporting



So, after being king of Kentucky for today by nailing Rand Paul's numbers (56-44) and the Dem holds there, if I call Dayton by 1, Walz wins and Oberstar loses, do I get to be king of Minnesota for a day?

Minnesota is definitely a step up from KY.  :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 02:20:43 AM
So, what the greatest R+x seat held by a Dem for the next Congress?

And to answer my own question, OK-2 is R+14. Impressive, Mr. Boren.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:21:44 AM
So, what the greatest R+x seat held by a Dem for the next Congress?

UT-02 (R+15)
OK-02 (R+14)
KY-06 (R+9)
WV-3 (R+6)
NC-11 (R+6)
PA-4 (R+6)
PA-17 (R+6)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 02:23:38 AM
So, what the greatest R+x seat held by a Dem for the next Congress?

UT-02 (R+15)
OK-02 (R+14)
KY-06 (R+9)
WV-3 (R+6)
NC-11 (R+6)
PA-4 (R+6)
PA-17 (R+6)

Yeah, I just noticed that Matheson slightly beats Boren. Incredible.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on November 03, 2010, 02:25:10 AM
When I looked 45 minutes ago, it was listed as 22% in from St. Louis County, and in fact it was much higher, and now 97%

St. Louis
Updated 11 minutes ago
Oberstar
(Incumbent)
   
47,468
   57%
Cravaack
   
32,968
   40%
97% of precincts reporting



So, after being king of Kentucky for today by nailing Rand Paul's numbers (56-44) and the Dem holds there, if I call Dayton by 1, Walz wins and Oberstar loses, do I get to be king of Minnesota for a day?
You're the Co-King of Kentucky, I nailed Paul's numbers as well. ;)

My percentages were way off in the Senate but it looks like I got all the winners correct except for Illinois, and Alaska. I remember the same thing happened in 2008 when I got all of the states right except I flipped Missouri and Indiana but I did poorly on the percentages.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
All right, what's going on with MN-08?  Who is likely to win at this point?

Depends on what's out from St. Louis and Itasca Counties, but Craavack just might pull it out - something I didn't expect when I looked at the race a half hour ago.

Out:
Aitkin - 13 precincts; 50-44 Craavack
Isanti - 6 precincts; 55-39 Craavack
Itasca - 14 precincts; 48-47 Oberstar
Mille Lacs - 1 precinct; 53-40 Craavack
Pine - 18 precincts; 51-44 Craavack
St. Louis - 5 precincts; 58-40 Oberstar
Wadena - 9 precincts; 54-40 Craavack


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:27:43 AM
Looking at CA-20, we have 91% in from Fresno, which Costa is winning 63-37, 77% in from Kern, which Costa is winning 60-40 and only absentees from Kings, which Vidak is winning 71-29.

Contrast that with McNerney's places out, which appear to be much more favorable.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 02:29:03 AM
Sadly, it looks like Alaska will remain a GOP hold no matter who wins.:(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 02:30:03 AM
Buck +6,932 (+0.4%) with 73% reporting

But, Denver only 54% reporting and Boulder only 63% reporting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:31:11 AM
Sadly, it looks like Alaska will remain a GOP hold no matter who wins.:(

If Alaskans know how to spell, it will almost certainly be Murkowski.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 03, 2010, 02:31:45 AM
Ok, I am ready to call CA-11 for Mcnerney. It will be damn close, and perhaps a recount will happen, but I think Mcnerney will be on top when it's all said and done. Harmer just didn't get the numbers he needed out of San Joaquin and only won his home county of Contra Costa by 1. As long as Mcnerney wins by about a 14 point margin in Alameda, and holds up well in Santa Clara, he should win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:32:25 AM
Buck +6,932 (+0.4%) with 73% reporting

But, Denver only 54% reporting and Boulder only 63% reporting.

Buck is behind in all PVI bellwether counties, which is never a good sign.  Ditto Rossi in Washington.  I generally trust the bellwethers.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 03, 2010, 02:33:37 AM
What a truly horrible night.

Angle loses, while there appear to be enough stupid people in Alaska to write-in that vile piece of garbage Murkowski for another term.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 03, 2010, 02:34:00 AM
Elderly incumbents have really struggled, haven't they?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:34:31 AM
All right, what's going on with MN-08?  Who is likely to win at this point?

Depends on what's out from St. Louis and Itasca Counties, but Craavack just might pull it out - something I didn't expect when I looked at the race a half hour ago.

Out:
Aitkin - 13 precincts; 50-44 Craavack
Isanti - 6 precincts; 55-39 Craavack
Itasca - 14 precincts; 48-47 Oberstar
Mille Lacs - 1 precinct; 53-40 Craavack
Pine - 18 precincts; 51-44 Craavack
St. Louis - 5 precincts; 58-40 Oberstar
Wadena - 9 precincts; 54-40 Craavack

Turns out there were less votes in St. Louis than we thought.  This happens, as I discovered in Franken-Coleman, because a lot of Duluth precincts are completely devoid of voters (maybe until they need them), whereas other precincts are packed with voters.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 03, 2010, 02:34:43 AM
Elderly incumbents have really struggled, haven't they?

AGE WAVE


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 02:34:55 AM
WA:
Murray +14,005 (50.5% v 49.5%), with 62% reporting
King County only 55% in.


AK:
Write-ins (Murkowski) +7,242 (39.4% v 35.3%) with 70% reporting


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 02:35:22 AM
Buck +6,932 (+0.4%) with 73% reporting

But, Denver only 54% reporting and Boulder only 63% reporting.

Buck is behind in all PVI bellwether counties, which is never a good sign.  Ditto Rossi in Washington.  I generally trust the bellwethers.

I tend to agree.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 03, 2010, 02:37:38 AM

You win the thread.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:38:04 AM
Himes is finally leading in CT-04.

Torie - Care to guess the net number of seats Republicans lead in right now?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:41:14 AM
Looking at CA-20, we have 91% in from Fresno, which Costa is winning 63-37, 77% in from Kern, which Costa is winning 60-40 and only absentees from Kings, which Vidak is winning 71-29.

Contrast that with McNerney's places out, which appear to be much more favorable.

Kings is clearly not all absentees Sam:

Here are the numbers from 2008:

Fresno
Costa
42,840    79%
Lopez 11,405    21%

Kern
Costa 28,301    78%
Lopez 8,183    22%

Kings

Costa  21,882    64%
Lopez 12,530     36%

And 2010 so far:

Fresno
1:46 a.m. EDT, Nov 3, 2010
Costa  10,420    63%
Vidak     5,999  37%
91% of precincts reporting
Kern
Costa 5,874    60%
Vidak 3,890     40%
77% of precincts reporting
Kings
2:18 a.m. EDT, Nov 3, 2010
Vidak 10,893     71%
Costa 4,506    29%
0% of precincts reporting

They are all absentees I suspect. In any event, the precincts reporting are BS.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 02:41:57 AM
Toomey and Corbett got killed in Philly (though ran strong/barely lost or barely won in the Republican areas of the city) but the margins elsewhere where so incredible that it didn't matter. Republican turnout in Bucks alone was sensational. Our numbers in Chester were great, too. Amazing. What a night.

A Republican Governor, U.S. Senator, five more members of our House delegation (with a few very close losses), keeping our 30-20 hold on the State Senate and taking back the State House with at least a twelve seat net gain while knocking off the Majority Leader. Pennsylvania kicked ass tonight.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 02:51:26 AM
AP declares Hanabusa winner :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:52:41 AM
Himes is finally leading in CT-04.

Torie - Care to guess the net number of seats Republicans lead in right now?

I am overwhelmed. So no. :(  Any seat that you want me to look at?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 03, 2010, 02:52:53 AM

Me too, McMahon seemed so strong with local support

Yes, quite an upset that Grimm beat McMahon...meanwhile Paladino lost Staten Island by 17 points.

Shame they couldn't have gotten someone less horrible than Grimm to occupy that seat for who-knows-how-long.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:54:42 AM
Himes is finally leading in CT-04.

Torie - Care to guess the net number of seats Republicans lead in right now?

I am overwhelmed. So no. :(  Any seat that you want me to look at?

The question was rhetorical.

64.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SvenssonRS on November 03, 2010, 02:54:58 AM
And there goes Minnick. Took NYT long enough to call it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:57:30 AM
Ok, I am ready to call CA-11 for Mcnerney. It will be damn close, and perhaps a recount will happen, but I think Mcnerney will be on top when it's all said and done. Harmer just didn't get the numbers he needed out of San Joaquin and only won his home county of Contra Costa by 1. As long as Mcnerney wins by about a 14 point margin in Alameda, and holds up well in Santa Clara, he should win.


I suspect the GOP will get zip out of CA. But the redistricting commission now controls CD redistricting, so the GOP will not be totally wiped out come 2012, although I suspect they will still lose a couple of seats. CA given the national GOP is now a Dem bastion, and a reliable one. In some ways, almost as reliable as NY, if not more so in some ways.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 03, 2010, 02:58:06 AM
And there goes Minnick. Took NYT long enough to call it.

Wasn't there a thread on here not too long ago about Minnick being unbeatable, even though he was sticking to his pro-abortion beliefs? Or am I thinking of someone else?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 03, 2010, 02:59:26 AM
MN-08 isn't looking good for the Democrats. Bennett should win though, as has been echoed already.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SvenssonRS on November 03, 2010, 02:59:31 AM
And there goes Minnick. Took NYT long enough to call it.

Wasn't there a thread on here not too long ago about Minnick being unbeatable, even though he was sticking to his pro-abortion beliefs? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Not quite certain. Still, he was assumed to be unbeatable nonetheless - he had a 15% lead in almost every poll until now.

Labrador's won it by about 8%, too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 03, 2010, 02:59:31 AM
     I am ever so slightly amused by the Democrats pulling out every close race & retaining a majority of U.S. House seats in North Carolina of all places.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: BM on November 03, 2010, 03:00:51 AM
Renee Ellmers defeating Etheridge is kind of surprising.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 03:00:56 AM
WA:
Murray +14,005 (50.5% v 49.5%), with 62% reporting
King County only 55% in.


AK:
Write-ins (Murkowski) +7,242 (39.4% v 35.3%) with 70% reporting

What's out in AK is largely in the Bush - which only can help Murkowski (Native Associations backed her).  Plus, bush precincts are generally smaller, meaning fewer votes to begin with.  Again, as long as Alaskans can spell her name, Murkowski wins.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 03, 2010, 03:01:15 AM
Shame that Lawson lost. :(

But North Carolina is an especially authoritarian state.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 03, 2010, 03:02:53 AM
WA:
Murray +14,005 (50.5% v 49.5%), with 62% reporting
King County only 55% in.


AK:
Write-ins (Murkowski) +7,242 (39.4% v 35.3%) with 70% reporting

What's out in AK is largely in the Bush - which only can help Murkowski (Native Associations backed her).  Again, as long as Alaskans can spell her name, Murkowski wins.

Disgusting. What a way to end the night. I genuinely feel sick to my stomach knowing that that woman will be back in the Senate again.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 03, 2010, 03:04:52 AM
And there goes Minnick. Took NYT long enough to call it.

Wasn't there a thread on here not too long ago about Minnick being unbeatable, even though he was sticking to his pro-abortion beliefs? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Not quite certain. Still, he was assumed to be unbeatable nonetheless - he had a 15% lead in almost every poll until now.

Labrador's won it by about 8%, too.

     M-D released a poll showing him up by only 3%. That was our first real clue of trouble for Minnick.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 03:05:36 AM
MN-08 isn't looking good for the Democrats. Bennett should win though, as has been echoed already.

It's Bennet, spelled unusually, very unusually, just like the name of my great, great, grandfather, who built in Montreal having emigrated there hired as an engineer from Scotland, the steam engine that powered the first steam boat across the Atlantic, the Royal William. I suspect we are related, maybe third cousins once removed (I am quite certain I am a generation ahead of him, because my clan breeds late), or something?  :) 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 03, 2010, 03:07:09 AM
Ok, I am ready to call CA-11 for Mcnerney. It will be damn close, and perhaps a recount will happen, but I think Mcnerney will be on top when it's all said and done. Harmer just didn't get the numbers he needed out of San Joaquin and only won his home county of Contra Costa by 1. As long as Mcnerney wins by about a 14 point margin in Alameda, and holds up well in Santa Clara, he should win.


I suspect the GOP will get zip out of CA. But the redistricting commission now controls CD redistricting, so the GOP will not be totally wiped out come 2012, although I suspect they will still lose a couple of seats. CA given the national GOP is now a Dem bastion, and a reliable one. In some ways, almost as reliable as NY, if not more so in some ways.

I think Calvert really needs to watch out. I would say the same for Drier and Bono-Mack, but they seem like decent candidates. They should survive till a wave sweeps them out.

California has become a democratic stronghold, much more than during the Bush administration. Obama has a 54% approval here, while being about 45% nationally. Kerry won 54% here, while winning 48% nationwide.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 03:07:19 AM
WA:
Murray +14,005 (50.5% v 49.5%), with 62% reporting
King County only 55% in.


AK:
Write-ins (Murkowski) +7,242 (39.4% v 35.3%) with 70% reporting

What's out in AK is largely in the Bush - which only can help Murkowski (Native Associations backed her).  Plus, bush precincts are generally smaller, meaning fewer votes to begin with.  Again, as long as Alaskans can spell her name, Murkowski wins.
They don't even have to spell her name. Milkcowsky works just fine.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GMantis on November 03, 2010, 03:08:01 AM
CNN has called CA-47 for Sanchez. Wonder if that ad helped or hurt?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 03, 2010, 03:10:40 AM
Has a write-in campaign ever been more successful? 

Didn't Strom Thurmond win as a write-in candidate?

Yes.  Possibly until tonight, Thurmond was the only person ever elected to the Senate as a write-in candidate.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 03, 2010, 03:11:47 AM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.

On what basis do you say Reid has won?

Well if the ultraconservative Vegas voted for him...

I'm sorry... what?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 03:12:53 AM

What do I need to put up as my sig again, or something? I don't remember the exact deals of our bet. Congratulations Memphis. Pity I had to lose a bet due to the loss of a man that I admire. Such is life. I would give you Oberstar if you give me Djou in a milisecond.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 03:14:27 AM
Dewey defeats Truman in Nevada.

Polling had him down 49-45 consistently other than the PPP poll and he was able to pull it off.

On what basis do you say Reid has won?

Well if the ultraconservative Vegas voted for him...

I'm sorry... what?

Indeed. What?  :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Tender Branson on November 03, 2010, 03:15:54 AM
So, it looks like 243-192 now.

A net gain of 64 for the Republicans. I predicted +67 for them.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 03, 2010, 03:20:00 AM

What do I need to put up as my sig again, or something? I don't remember the exact deals of our bet. Congratulations Memphis. Pity I had to lose a bet due to the loss of a man that I admire. Such is life. I would give you Oberstar if you give me Djou in a milisecond.

I agree with Torie here.  Djou is an awesome guy and didn't deserve to lose. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 03:22:01 AM
So, it looks like 243-192 now.

A net gain of 64 for the Republicans. I predicted +67 for them.

CA-11 will likely flip to the Dems, given what's out.
CA-20 is bizarre - supposedly only 3 precincts of the Republican-leaning county is in with 40K votes.
WA-02 looks like it will hold for the Republican, given what is out.

64 sounds like the magic number.  Give Torie a prize!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 03, 2010, 03:22:26 AM
CNN has called CA-47 for Sanchez. Wonder if that ad helped or hurt?

It hurt undoubtedly. Though it was a while back so it probably didn't have much of an effect at all. I had a feeling Sanchez would hold this one comfortably.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Nichlemn on November 03, 2010, 03:23:39 AM
Most of you are focusing on the close races, but I find it amusing that John Hoeven somehow outperformed his already stratospheric polling and won 76-22, the largest margin of victory of any opposed Senate candidate period (Inouye is close behind). That's gotta be a record for a pickup, right? It's probably a recent record for a Senate candidate with major party opposition (I know George Mitchell won 80% in Maine in 1988).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 03:26:14 AM
Djou losing and Ambercrombie crushing Aiona in the HI-Gov race should teach us all one thing:

Never trust a Hawai'i poll done by a Haole from the mainland.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 03:37:36 AM
CO-SEN:
Buck lead expands to +9,456 (47.6% v 47.0%), 79% reporting

Denver 57% reporting, Boulder 64%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 03, 2010, 03:41:29 AM
By only 6 points, RI-01 has elected the nation's second openly gay freshman congressman.

I *think* that's Winfield's district.  If so, LOL.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 03:42:46 AM
AK:
Write-ins (Murkowski) +7,242 (39.4% v 35.3%) with 70% reporting

AK-GOV:
Write-ins (Murkowski) expands lead to +9,640 (40.0% v 34.9%) with 82% reporting



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Platypus on November 03, 2010, 03:53:20 AM
By only 6 points, RI-01 has elected the nation's second openly gay freshman congressman.

I *think* that's Winfield's district.  If so, LOL.

Plus Polis was re-elected.

Actually, I think every gay candidate for a major party (ie, the Democrats :p) won.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 03:55:05 AM
Bunch more came in from Denver, some from Adams, Morgan.  Margin is now Buck 3,390.

None of Chaffee or ultra small Hinsdale are in.  91% of Adams in, 93% of Denver, still very little outside of the early vote in Araphoe as only 11% are in.  Boulder remains at 64%, San Miguel 83%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 03, 2010, 03:56:02 AM
Sestak won Greene county by 2 votes.  Just thought I'd mention that.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 03, 2010, 04:24:14 AM

What do I need to put up as my sig again, or something? I don't remember the exact deals of our bet. Congratulations Memphis. Pity I had to lose a bet due to the loss of a man that I admire. Such is life. I would give you Oberstar if you give me Djou in a milisecond.

I agree with Torie here.  Djou is an awesome guy and didn't deserve to lose. :(

That's what I would say about a lot of Democrats who lost tonight.  Djou was simply a fluke who would lose once he had to run against a Democrat one on one.  Also, the fact that it looked like Republicans would win the House really hurt him.  Had this been a quiet, run of the mill midterm, he may have survived. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 04:43:43 AM
AK-GOV:
Write-ins (Murkowski) expands lead to +9,640 (40.0% v 34.9%) with 82% reporting

AK-GOV:
Write-ins (Murkowski) lead keeps growing... +10,500 (40.2% v 34.7%) with 88% reporting


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GMantis on November 03, 2010, 05:42:21 AM
Bishop is ahead in GA-02 by about 5000 and with almost all precincts counted, yet all agencies refuse to call the race for him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 03, 2010, 05:50:56 AM
I'm actually surprised that West won by 9 points in FL-22.  I thought it would be much closer.

I bet good money that West will be this cycle's Michael Flanagan.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 03, 2010, 05:52:56 AM
Sestak won Greene county by 2 votes.  Just thought I'd mention that.

Greene County is practically WV lite.........not a big shocker at least to me.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 03, 2010, 06:14:19 AM
Bennet's now taken the lead by about 5000 votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 03, 2010, 06:18:58 AM
I don't see any outstanding counties in Colorado that could provide any useful margin to Buck. Not to mention that a third of Boulder is still missing.

Bennet has won this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 03, 2010, 06:19:16 AM
Murkowski winning makes up for Angle losing. Not a perfect night, but at least we didn't severely underperform like I feared.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 03, 2010, 06:23:09 AM
99% reporting in Alaska:

write-in: 41.0
Miller: 34.2

This was a great election all in all :D


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 03, 2010, 06:31:37 AM
Basically Buck needs the remaining 89% of Arapahoe county to break for him. Looks like a long shot.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GMantis on November 03, 2010, 06:32:20 AM
99% reporting in Alaska:

write-in: 41.0
Miller: 34.2

This was a great election all in all :D
They'll probably throw out a great deal of those Write-in votes, though - for example, Murkowski is not the only Lisa M. running as a write in. Yes, this will probably takes weeks.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2010, 06:36:25 AM
Djou losing and Ambercrombie crushing Aiona in the HI-Gov race should teach us all one thing:

Never trust a Hawai'i poll done by a Haole from the mainland.

I suspect it's best to always add a couple of points to the Dems in a Hawaii poll, just as you should to the GOP in a poll of Alaska.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 06:38:46 AM
CO-SEN:
Buck lead expands to +9,456 (47.6% v 47.0%), 79% reporting

Denver 57% reporting, Boulder 64%.

CO-SEN:
Bennett takes the lead...  +5,568 (47.4% v 47.1%), 87% reporting

Denver all in.
Boulder 68% reporting

It's done.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 03, 2010, 06:39:23 AM
99% reporting in Alaska:

write-in: 41.0
Miller: 34.2

This was a great election all in all :D
They'll probably throw out a great deal of those Write-in votes, though - for example, Murkowski is not the only Lisa M. running as a write in. Yes, this will probably takes weeks.

You're probably right, but Murkowski's camp thinks the margin is large enough to survive legal challenges. We'll see....but it seems pretty good to me :) (Especially since they were getting lists of write-in candidates in Alaska....although it wouldn't surprise me if some were still spelled wrong :))


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 03, 2010, 06:44:07 AM
Basically Buck needs the remaining 89% of Arapahoe county to break for him. Looks like a long shot.

There isn't anything left in Araphahoe, IMO. The 11% reporting is idiotic, look at the raw number of votes! It's an error.

Only Boulder has anything worthwhile left.

Bennet will win by about 1%, maybe very slightly more.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Beet on November 03, 2010, 06:55:49 AM
My oh my, what is Joe Miller going to do with his curtains? :) And why is Sarah Palin so ineffective in Alaska?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 06:57:13 AM
Sestak won Greene county by 2 votes.  Just thought I'd mention that.

And won my precinct by two votes.  :( 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 03, 2010, 07:02:11 AM
Has Alvin Greene actually conceded defeat?  I would love to see his concession speech.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2010, 07:04:41 AM
By only 6 points, RI-01 has elected the nation's second openly gay freshman congressman.

I *think* that's Winfield's district.  If so, LOL.

Plus Polis was re-elected.

Actually, I think every gay candidate for a major party (ie, the Democrats :p) won.

Not the Republican candidate for Lt. Governor in Mass., I'm content to report. And this state being what it is, the Dems snapped up his senate seat, reducing the Republicans to 4 seats out of 40. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 03, 2010, 07:21:28 AM
I'm confused. Bennet will win? But, he ran a really aggressive campaign throwing alot of stuff in Buck's face! And Mr. Moderate always tells me that Democrats who make abortion a major campaign issue never have it rebound to their benefit. ???


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 03, 2010, 07:23:46 AM
I'm confused. Bennet will win? But, he ran a really aggressive campaign throwing alot of stuff in Buck's face! And Mr. Moderate always tells me that Democrats who make abortion a major campaign issue never have it rebound to their benefit. ???

Bennett must be the most misunderestimated senate candidate of the year. ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: stry_cat on November 03, 2010, 07:28:40 AM
So what's going on in VA specifically with the Connolly vs. Fimian race?  There's still two precincts in Fairfax County which haven't reported results.
https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_l_CFF52707-FD82-4EFE-985A-D8C12A97EF10_s.shtml


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 03, 2010, 08:06:22 AM
Joe Miller losing is the best news in a long time. Good riddance to that scumbag.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 08:09:13 AM
So what's going on in VA specifically with the Connolly vs. Fimian race?  There's still two precincts in Fairfax County which haven't reported results.
https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_l_CFF52707-FD82-4EFE-985A-D8C12A97EF10_s.shtml

Only one precinct, actually -- the other is for provisional votes, of which there will less than 10. The one precinct remaining is one that Fimian won in 2008, so this is probably going to a recount (though if Connolly is ahead going into it, he'll win; recounts barely move numbers in Virginia).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 03, 2010, 08:18:22 AM
I voted for Altmire......I knew going in I wouldn't vote for Mary Bitch Buchanan if she won the pub primary and I'm glad she didn't.  The guy that ran against Altmire couldn't make himself well known enough.  Altmire is a lib in a very very conservative district so he has to act like a moderate to survive.  I can live with that.  His health care vote helped him even though I'm sure the leadership granted him permission to vote against it.

I didn't want to vote for Toomey or Sestak......I voted Toomey.  This may sound petty but I don't buy Sestak's version of the Obama job offer.  I can't vote for a guy who has openly made statements I don't believe.  Toomey may be a liar too about some things but nothing stood out.  So I voted for him.....

I'm sure Valium was flowing all night in both camps........it was a tight race......


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 03, 2010, 08:19:24 AM
Buck didn't know how to answer the abortion question and allowed himself to be defined...I could have won this race


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Umengus on November 03, 2010, 08:26:47 AM
cnn exit poll FL : Rubio wins 55 % of latinos (12 % of the voters).

Meek wins 76 % of the blacks voters (11 % of the voters).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 08:30:11 AM

What do I need to put up as my sig again, or something? I don't remember the exact deals of our bet. Congratulations Memphis. Pity I had to lose a bet due to the loss of a man that I admire. Such is life. I would give you Oberstar if you give me Djou in a milisecond.

Hanabusa's pic in your signature. One week. Feel free to add a snarky caption :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 08:35:41 AM
Biggest GOP majority since Truman's do nothing Congress.  We will still have more seats than Reagan did in 83-89.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Јas on November 03, 2010, 08:35:54 AM
Anyone know when Washington will resume counting?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: TomC on November 03, 2010, 08:37:19 AM
OK, so CNN is reporting a 51-47 Senate with 2 not called but Co, Wash, and Alaska are gray and "not called." Are they assuming AK for the GOP one way or the other?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 08:37:34 AM
McNerney's ahead by 120 votes in CA-11 with all precincts - probably will be some recount there.

Costa appears like he's going to lose because what's left ain't favorable to him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2010, 08:40:02 AM
Toomey and Corbett got killed in Philly (though ran strong/barely lost or barely won in the Republican areas of the city) but the margins elsewhere where so incredible that it didn't matter. Republican turnout in Bucks alone was sensational. Our numbers in Chester were great, too. Amazing. What a night.



I think the difference was the African American vote.

It was very Democratic.  It turned out in slightly better numbers than normal.  It was not, however, a much better turnout.

In other words, "President Obama, they don't have your back."  This time.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 08:43:16 AM
Toomey and Corbett got killed in Philly (though ran strong/barely lost or barely won in the Republican areas of the city) but the margins elsewhere where so incredible that it didn't matter. Republican turnout in Bucks alone was sensational. Our numbers in Chester were great, too. Amazing. What a night.



I think the difference was the African American vote.

It was very Democratic.  It turned out in slightly better numbers than normal.  It was not, however, a much better turnout.

In other words, "President Obama, they don't have your back."  This time.
Wait for 2012. They'll turn out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 08:45:16 AM
One of my coworkers, a 30ish African-American woman, told me the other day she only votes for President. That's what the Democrats have to work with.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 08:46:58 AM
Costa's district looks like it had terrible turnout this election.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
OK, so CNN is reporting a 51-47 Senate with 2 not called but Co, Wash, and Alaska are gray and "not called." Are they assuming AK for the GOP one way or the other?

They should, Murrcowskee said she'd caucus with Republicans and McAdams is out of the running.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 03, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
OK, so CNN is reporting a 51-47 Senate with 2 not called but Co, Wash, and Alaska are gray and "not called." Are they assuming AK for the GOP one way or the other?

They should, Murrcowskee said she'd caucus with Republicans and McAdams is out of the running.

Yes. Early in the Alaska count, CNN made a "projection" (on teh tee-vee) that McAdams would come in third. Because Murkowski definitively said she'd caucus with the GOP, it's a GOP hold regardless of who comes in second.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 08:58:51 AM
cnn exit poll FL : Rubio wins 55 % of latinos (12 % of the voters).

Meek wins 76 % of the blacks voters (11 % of the voters).

And of course the actual numbers proved Crist had a chance.  Great job Meek.:P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 09:02:54 AM
Costa's district looks like it had terrible turnout this election.

Most of the Hispanic-majority districts in the Southwest have that problem, since a lot of the residents of the district don't/can't vote.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2010, 09:07:08 AM
Toomey and Corbett got killed in Philly (though ran strong/barely lost or barely won in the Republican areas of the city) but the margins elsewhere where so incredible that it didn't matter. Republican turnout in Bucks alone was sensational. Our numbers in Chester were great, too. Amazing. What a night.



I think the difference was the African American vote.

It was very Democratic.  It turned out in slightly better numbers than normal.  It was not, however, a much better turnout.

In other words, "President Obama, they don't have your back."  This time.
Wait for 2012. They'll turn out.

Maybe not.  In PA, you have to vote once every two years to stay registered.  You probably lost a number of registered Democrats in Philadelphia.

There is also the change factor.  That change was made already, and they might be no reason to change it.  It that respect, there was no energy.

To think of the analogy of Berry Gordy's the Last Dragon, last night, Obama was Sho'nuff, after the glow started to fade.  Still powerful, but not winning.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
So what's going on in VA specifically with the Connolly vs. Fimian race?  There's still two precincts in Fairfax County which haven't reported results.
https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_l_CFF52707-FD82-4EFE-985A-D8C12A97EF10_s.shtml

Only one precinct, actually -- the other is for provisional votes, of which there will less than 10. The one precinct remaining is one that Fimian won in 2008, so this is probably going to a recount (though if Connolly is ahead going into it, he'll win; recounts barely move numbers in Virginia).

Scratch that, there *are* two precincts out, and both of them were easily won by Connolly in 2008. He's got it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 03, 2010, 09:45:13 AM
Costa's district looks like it had terrible turnout this election.

Yeah, what the hell is with that... Barely 60,000 people voted in CA-20. I think Costa was unopposed last time so maybe people forgot they had to vote this time around.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sarnstrom on November 03, 2010, 09:48:53 AM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 09:49:52 AM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 09:50:42 AM
Bennet and Gillibrand have broken the appointed-Senator curse, it seems.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2010, 09:51:28 AM
The west really came through for us this election. Kind of. I'd like to thank our Hispanic immigrant comrades for their valiant efforts to stem the Republican tide.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2010, 09:54:23 AM
My oh my, what is Joe Miller going to do with his curtains? :) And why is Sarah Palin so ineffective in Alaska?

Has Joe Miller made a concession speech yet? I'd love to see that Stasi-loving asshole admit defeat.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 09:58:59 AM
My oh my, what is Joe Miller going to do with his curtains? :) And why is Sarah Palin so ineffective in Alaska?

Has Joe Miller made a concession speech yet? I'd love to see that Stasi-loving asshole admit defeat.

Nope: http://www.adn.com/2010/11/02/1532963/senate-drama-could-just-be-beginning.html

Remember, there's all those mail-in ballots still to be counted, like in 2008. Then there's the process of counting write-ins. This could take weeks.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: riceowl on November 03, 2010, 10:01:25 AM
My oh my, what is Joe Miller going to do with his curtains? :) And why is Sarah Palin so ineffective in Alaska?

Has Joe Miller made a concession speech yet? I'd love to see that Stasi-loving asshole admit defeat.

that won't be happening for a while:

"...Robert Campbell, Mr. Miller’s campaign manager said: “We’re pretty confident Senator Murkowski’s going to get some of the write-in votes. It’s also possible Spiderman will get some, too.” "


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rob in cal on November 03, 2010, 10:07:44 AM
And Lief, don't worry, even if you had a GOP congress and President, they still wouldn't try to do much to change what I call the "Brazilification" of the US.  To paraphrase one Democrat official from the early 2000's in Texas "our voters are still on their way here from Mexico".  I don't think, however, that you will see much of a chance of even more immigration beyond the already high levels already allowed in getting through the new house.  In the case of the western senate seats, one could truly argue that immigrants and their descendants are "doing the work (voting Democrat) that white middle class Americans are too  lazy to do".


Title: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 03, 2010, 10:08:59 AM
Ok, so it seems it comes down to three. Here is what the NYT projects :


Colorado

88% reporting

Bennet leads by 7556 votes (0.46%)

Most of the votes yet to be counted come from Arapahoe (11% rep) and Boulder (72%) counties, both of which have Bennet ahead.


Washington

62% reporting

Murray leads by 14005 votes (0.98%)

Most of the votes yet to be counted come from King (55%, Murray ahead), Yakima (47%, Rossi ahead), Okanogan (50%, Rossi), Skagit (56%, Rossi), Clallam (56%, Rossi), Douglas (56%, Rossi), Franklin (55%, Rossi), Stevens (51%, Rossi), Spokane (42%, Rossi) and Whitman (53%, Rossi) counties.


Alaska

99% reporting

Write-Ins lead by 13588 (6.8%). It is likely to estimate than a sufficient share of them are for Murkowski.

As usual, no borough results in Alaska.


I think we can safely project that Bennet will win the Colorado race, same for Murkowski. Washington still looks pretty uncertain, but an almost 1% lead should be pretty hard for Rossi to overcome.
When would you think those 3 races will be called ?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 10:09:52 AM
Btw, if you're wondering why NY-25 hasn't been called, it's because the areas out should be very friendly to Buerkle.  I doubt it's enough to overcome a 2000-vote lead, but who knows...


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: dmmidmi on November 03, 2010, 10:13:51 AM
I'm guessing that Colorado will be called later today. Washington may be called on Friday. Murkowski may be projected the winner in the next day or so, but due to the inevitable lawsuits that both Miller and Murkowski are almost certainly gearing up for, Alaska probably won't be settled for another month--maybe even longer.

Edit at 11:41am-ish: Michael Bennet will keep his seat. http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_16511547


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 03, 2010, 10:27:09 AM
Really glad to see that Bennet, one of the better Senators, pulled through.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 03, 2010, 10:36:50 AM
Damn@Oberstar. I never saw that coming. Normally I'd take solace in that the seat would likely flip back but who knows what redistricting will do. We've probably lost the chance to redistrict out Bachmann too but if we lose a seat Cravaak likely will be it.

Well on the bright side Hanabusa appears to have won by a solid margin.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Free Palestine on November 03, 2010, 10:38:09 AM
How many Murkowski votes are going to be invalid?  Hopefully enough to get Miller elected.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 10:38:29 AM
Damn@Oberstar. I never saw that coming. Normally I'd take solace in that the seat would likely flip back but who knows what redistricting will do. We've probably lost the chance to redistrict out Bachmann too but if we lose a seat Cravaak likely will be it.

Well on the bright side Hanabusa appears to have won by a solid margin.

I was really surprised that Cravaack pulled 40% in St. Louis.  Should I be?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 03, 2010, 10:39:45 AM
With that margin Murkowski has probably won it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 10:40:49 AM

It sort of fits in with the general results. Powerful chairman in the House representing relatively rural districts getting knocked out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 03, 2010, 10:51:34 AM
Damn@Oberstar. I never saw that coming. Normally I'd take solace in that the seat would likely flip back but who knows what redistricting will do. We've probably lost the chance to redistrict out Bachmann too but if we lose a seat Cravaak likely will be it.

Well on the bright side Hanabusa appears to have won by a solid margin.

I was really surprised that Cravaack pulled 40% in St. Louis.  Should I be?

Yeah. That's really flukeish. I wouldn't expect it to continue in future elections but as said who knows what the district will look like. I wonder what happens if they draw Cravaack and Peterson in, Peterson would win but he might lose the primary. Then again he might want to retire now with all of his fellow Blue Dogs wiped out.

Of course I've also heard it's now looking more likely Minnesota might not lose a seat.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GMantis on November 03, 2010, 10:55:20 AM
CNN calls GA-02 for Bishop.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 11:21:34 AM
So what's going on in VA specifically with the Connolly vs. Fimian race?  There's still two precincts in Fairfax County which haven't reported results.
https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2010/EB24720D-F5C6-4880-8DC5-12AE4D0C3772/Unofficial/6_l_CFF52707-FD82-4EFE-985A-D8C12A97EF10_s.shtml

Only one precinct, actually -- the other is for provisional votes, of which there will less than 10. The one precinct remaining is one that Fimian won in 2008, so this is probably going to a recount (though if Connolly is ahead going into it, he'll win; recounts barely move numbers in Virginia).

Scratch that, there *are* two precincts out, and both of them were easily won by Connolly in 2008. He's got it.

It looks like this district will now be more or less permanently in Democratic hands, especially after they give him more blue NOVA territory in redistricting to shore up the downstate GOP winners.  Of course this is offset by the 9th, which will now be permanently Republican.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on November 03, 2010, 11:33:44 AM
Yes, the West did really pull through for us because it's part of our new base. 

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The new Democratic firewall. (yea I still include Pennsylvania, sue me)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
You also included NH, but whatever...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 11:39:09 AM
Yes, the West did really pull through for us because it's part of our new base. 

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The new Democratic firewall. (yea I still include Pennsylvania, sue me)
North Carolina re-elected most of its Dem incumbents.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 11:40:29 AM
On Washington, Murray should have the edge, but it is far too early to make predictions without knowing the content of what's out.

In general, Rossi is underperforming slightly his 2004 numbers in the west and overperforming slightly in the east.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 11:40:59 AM
I think the problem with Oberstar was age and how long he had been in office. That's one of the seats they should win back in 2012 if the environment is even slightly better.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 11:42:04 AM
Yes, the West did really pull through for us because it's part of our new base. 

(
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The new Democratic firewall. (yea I still include Pennsylvania, sue me)
North Carolina re-elected most of its Dem incumbents.

Unfortunately, the gerrymander presently in effect is going to face some increased scrutiny with the GOP controlling the legislature.


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 03, 2010, 11:45:34 AM
Wow, Bennet just doubled his lead : now at 0.9%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Iosif on November 03, 2010, 11:46:45 AM
Alvin Greene got more vote for US Senate than Sharon Angle.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 11:47:22 AM
I think the problem with Oberstar was age and how long he had been in office. That's one of the seats they should win back in 2012 if the environment is even slightly better.

Except, as BRTD said, the district might not exist in 2012 - and probably won't exist in its current form, given population shifts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 11:51:16 AM
They'll probably have to let McIntyre live if they want Ellmers to stay. There's not a whole lot you can do with NC-11, unless you turn it into a bizarre squidlike district. Kissell, however, is probably going to be screwed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 03, 2010, 11:57:55 AM
Yeah, there's still a small chance for Rossi to turn this around although he will probably lose by 1-1.5 points. I wish WA would start counting again finally.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 03, 2010, 11:58:07 AM
They'll probably have to let McIntyre live if they want Ellmers to stay. There's not a whole lot you can do with NC-11, unless you turn it into a bizarre squidlike district. Kissell, however, is probably going to be screwed.

Kissell won by almost 10 points in the worst cycle for Democrats since 1946.  Even if Republicans take Mecklenberg county away from him, he would still win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnCA246 on November 03, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
what is going on with WA?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:10:51 PM
Yes, the West did really pull through for us because it's part of our new base. 

(
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The new Democratic firewall. (yea I still include Pennsylvania, sue me)
North Carolina re-elected most of its Dem incumbents.

Unfortunately, the gerrymander presently in effect is going to face some increased scrutiny with the GOP controlling the legislature.
The Governor is a Dem though right? Does Gov. Perdue have a part in redistricting?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 03, 2010, 12:12:19 PM
Has Alvin Greene actually conceded defeat?  I would love to see his concession speech.


Morden he probably has no phone too call and concede with.......and no microphone or podium for a speech.....unless the outhouse counts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:16:36 PM
Murray is overperforming the county benchmarks she needs to get 50.1 so far. She's overperforming a bit in Spokane and Clark while underperforming slightly in King County. Looks like it will be enough to win though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:19:13 PM
NY State Senate looks very close right now. Could end up being a tie at 31-31 from what I've heard.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:19:55 PM
Damn@Oberstar. I never saw that coming. Normally I'd take solace in that the seat would likely flip back but who knows what redistricting will do. We've probably lost the chance to redistrict out Bachmann too but if we lose a seat Cravaak likely will be it.

Well on the bright side Hanabusa appears to have won by a solid margin.

I was really surprised that Cravaack pulled 40% in St. Louis.  Should I be?

Yeah. That's really flukeish. I wouldn't expect it to continue in future elections but as said who knows what the district will look like. I wonder what happens if they draw Cravaack and Peterson in, Peterson would win but he might lose the primary. Then again he might want to retire now with all of his fellow Blue Dogs wiped out.

Of course I've also heard it's now looking more likely Minnesota might not lose a seat.

If Minnesota does lose a seat, the courts will probably draw the lines, because shockingly to me, and no doubt shockingly to you, BRTD, the GOP won (http://www.startribune.com/politics/local/106596798.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUXAsA_tHt0q6gM_Hzdgxq_rU)  the Minnesota legislature. It will be just too tough to agree on which Congressperson is going to retire. If the state does not lose a seat, then everybody's district who needs strengthening, will probably get it. Maybe some of the iron range will be moved to MN-7 (but not too much because Peterson would not want too much in a Dem primary), and MN-8 can pick up some of the southern portion of MN-7 perhaps.

Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate. Oh yes, Illinois! Quinn is clearly going to win, and that is an important win for the Dems. The Dem gerrymander in Illinois is going to be real ugly, as Cook County votes are used so sink suburban GOP congresspersons. The only thing holding them back will be the need to keep too black and one Hispanic district. Illinois losing a seat will just make all the more sanguinary. Muon2, what do you think?

Can anyone think of a state other than Illinois of any import, that the Dems will control?



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2010, 12:25:26 PM
Well, California, but we're not allowed to gerrymander that unfortunately.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:25:32 PM
Toomey and Corbett got killed in Philly (though ran strong/barely lost or barely won in the Republican areas of the city) but the margins elsewhere where so incredible that it didn't matter. Republican turnout in Bucks alone was sensational. Our numbers in Chester were great, too. Amazing. What a night.



I think the difference was the African American vote.

It was very Democratic.  It turned out in slightly better numbers than normal.  It was not, however, a much better turnout.

In other words, "President Obama, they don't have your back."  This time.
Wait for 2012. They'll turn out.
Maybe not.  In PA, you have to vote once every two years to stay registered.  You probably lost a number of registered Democrats in Philadelphia.
If Obama and Brady aren't doing a huge recruiting drive there for registering new voters in 2012 that voted in 2008 and not 2010 I'd be shocked. Pennsylvania will be one of the key battleground states in 2012 so I'm sure Obama will put a big ground game in there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 03, 2010, 12:31:44 PM
McNerney down 23 votes right now. Can you say recount?
BTW, he's not a Blue Dog. Blue Dog Costa seems to have lost (also one of the uncalled races).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:32:48 PM
Well, California, but we're not allowed to gerrymander that unfortunately.

Yes, the Dems don't control the process in California. In fact, they, along with the Republicans, have absolutely nothing to do with it. What it has most to do with is federal law, and the host of strictures of how districts have to be drawn, that are now statutory in California, and are to be implemented by the independent commission.

The GOP appears to have drawn a royal flush when it comes to the gerrymandering wars. I wonder how much the GOP endeavored to maximize the odds of that particular draw?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:33:29 PM
Well, California, but we're not allowed to gerrymander that unfortunately.
Dems were stupid to vote for that ballot initiative. You can do so many creative things with a California gerrymander..

Good news is Republicans in Florida did the same thing. Still, Dems could have gotten more seats out of Cali. than the Republicans could have out of Florida.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 12:39:04 PM
Dems are going to gerrymander the sh**t out of Illinois though, so that's good.

The Republicans in Pennsylvania are going to have a tough time deciding which districts to strengthen and which to leave exposed. It's a good problem to have though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 12:39:56 PM
Yes, the West did really pull through for us because it's part of our new base. 

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The new Democratic firewall. (yea I still include Pennsylvania, sue me)
North Carolina re-elected most of its Dem incumbents.

Unfortunately, the gerrymander presently in effect is going to face some increased scrutiny with the GOP controlling the legislature.
The Governor is a Dem though right? Does Gov. Perdue have a part in redistricting?

Of course, but NC Dems have always controlled all parts of the redistricting process, which they don't now.  Makes a difference.

As for deals, I could see one for McIntyre - everyone likes him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
McNerney down 23 votes right now. Can you say recount?
BTW, he's not a Blue Dog. Blue Dog Costa seems to have lost (also one of the uncalled races).

Harmer is probably going to lose to the Dem, unless the 2 or 3 precincts out in Santa Clara County are disproportionately Republican, which is possible (somewhere in gated communities in Moraga or something), but unlikely.

Santa Clara
Updated 7 minutes ago
McNerney    4,900 51%
Harmer     4,254 45%
86% of precincts reporting


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Oakvale on November 03, 2010, 12:41:49 PM
Hahaha, Fiorna hasn't conceded yet. That's hilarious. And tragic.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 12:42:55 PM
Washington is all-mail. There are a ton of ballots that haven't even gotten to the county election offices yet.

Most counties are going to do an update once a day or so.

It's estimated that King County is only about half in, though, so that is probably good for Murray. King's updates will be at 4:30 PM every day.

I'm much more interested in WA-2. Though a 0.8% deficit will be hard for Larsen to overcome, IMO... Then again, the margin changed by about that (maybe more) during the primary, so it could happen. But Koster could also expand his lead by another 0.8%, so who knows.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 12:58:56 PM
So how many times will the Texas GOP's gerrymander go to court?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2010, 01:01:25 PM
So how many times will the Texas GOP's gerrymander go to court?

Depends if the AG post-2013 is Eric Holder or Joe Miller.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 01:13:25 PM
The Governor has no veto power over redistricting in North Carolina.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 01:14:19 PM
McNerney's actually up by 121 votes according to the SOS:

http://www.sos.ca.gov/contest_summary.pdf


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on November 03, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
What's up with the senate special in Niagara County? Unlike Cuomo, Gillibrand only slightly underperformed Schumer in the rest of western New York. And even if it's a switch, it's still weird, though for the opposite reason.

Schumer 57 Townsend 41
DioGuardi 69 Gillibrand 30


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
It looks like the GOP will get 64 seats net, winning IL-08, the Ortiz seat in Texas TX-27 I think (that must be the biggest upset of the night), CA-20, and WA-02.  They have a chance to win 65 seats if they get lucky in CA-11, but that appears less likely than not, unless after those silly 2 or 3 precincts in Santa Clara County which remain out (why haven't they been counted, what is the problem?), and as is likely, Harmer is behind (by 72 projected votes - oh the SOS has all the votes reflected (thanks for bringing that to my attention Johnny Longtorso), and McNerney's margin is 121 votes), he makes it up with the late absentees and military ballots. I suppose that is possible. This one might be up in the air for weeks.

In WA-2, per my spreadsheet projection, Koster has about a 1,700 projected pad when all the projected votes are in, and that will be very tough to make up with late absentees being that heavily more disproportionately Dem vis a vis what came before in each county. In IL-08, of the remaining projected 2,140 votes out, Bean would have to carry that by 69%, as opposed to the 55.5% she has been getting in Cook County so far (which is the only county with votes out). I don't think so.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SPQR on November 03, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
What's going on in CT4?
NyTimes has called it for the Dems,but with 80% in the Republican leads by 100ish votes.Also,it's the district where the votes left to count for the governor's race are.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Reds4 on November 03, 2010, 01:43:26 PM
Isn't it possible that NY-25 could still go to the GOP as well? Maffei leads by just 2,196 votes. The county that still has to report 40% of their precincts is Wayne and Buerkle has nearly a 3,400 vote lead in that county through the first 60%... I don't know anything about the county so I may be wrong.. but it seems possible for the GOP to pick this one up too.. It should be very close. What does everyone else think?


It looks like the GOP will get 64 seats net, winning IL-08, the Ortiz seat in Texas TX-27 I think (that must be the biggest upset of the night), CA-20, and WA-02.  They have a chance to win 65 seats if they get lucky in CA-11, but that appears less likely than not, unless after those silly 2 or 3 precincts in Santa Clara County which remain out (why haven't they been counted, what is the problem?), and as is likely, Harmer is behind (by 72 projected votes), he makes it up with the late absentees and military ballots. I suppose that is possible. This one might be up in the air for weeks.

In WA-2, per my spreadsheet projection, Koster has about a 1,700 projected pad when all the projected votes are in, and that will be very tough to make up with late absentees being that heavily more disproportionately Dem vis a vis what came before in each county. In IL-08, of the remaining projected 2,140 votes out, Bean would have to carry that by 69%, as opposed to the 55.5% she has been getting in Cook County so far (which is the only county with votes out). I don't think so.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 03, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Yes, it is possible. Probably won't, but possible it be.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 01:49:29 PM
It looks like the GOP will get 64 seats net, winning IL-08, the Ortiz seat in Texas TX-27 I think (that must be the biggest upset of the night), CA-20, and WA-02.  They have a chance to win 65 seats if they get lucky in CA-11, but that appears less likely than not, unless after those silly 2 or 3 precincts in Santa Clara County which remain out (why haven't they been counted, what is the problem?), and as is likely, Harmer is behind (by 72 projected votes - oh the SOS has all the votes reflected (thanks for bringing that to my attention Lief), and McNeary's margin is 121 votes), he makes it up with the late absentees and military ballots. I suppose that is possible. This one might be up in the air for weeks.

In WA-2, per my spreadsheet projection, Koster has about a 1,700 projected pad when all the projected votes are in, and that will be very tough to make up with late absentees being that heavily more disproportionately Dem vis a vis what came before in each county. In IL-08, of the remaining projected 2,140 votes out, Bean would have to carry that by 69%, as opposed to the 55.5% she has been getting in Cook County so far (which is the only county with votes out). I don't think so.

You can't predict how Washington comes in - I never do.  TX-27 is over unless there's a box in one of those questionable counties to the west which migrates over.

I agree with your analysis otherwise.  I don't know why WA-9, KY-6, AZ-7 or AZ-8 hasn't been called.

NY-25 is not being called because only 60% of Wayne County is in, which Buerkle is winning 62-38 (or 3400 votes about out of 14.5K).  It's unlikely to change, but since there were 25K votes there in 2010, they're being cautious.

EDIT:  Just missed previous post - mine adds on...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 03, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 03, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
What's going on in CT4?
NyTimes has called it for the Dems,but with 80% in the Republican leads by 100ish votes.Also,it's the district where the votes left to count for the governor's race are.

"The numbers we have show me ahead about 5,000 votes in the 16 towns that are not Bridgeport but unfortunately I will lose by a much larger margin than that in Bridgeport," Debicella said.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
Quote
Isn't it possible that NY-25 could still go to the GOP as well? Maffei leads by just 2,196 votes. The county that still has to report 40% of their precincts is Wayne and Buerkle has nearly a 3,400 vote lead in that county through the first 60%... I don't know anything about the county so I may be wrong.. but it seems possible for the GOP to pick this one up too.. It should be very close. What does everyone else think?


Yes you are right, Reds4.

                             Buerkle   Maffei   Margin   
Wayne existing        8,925         5,542     3,383   0.6
Wayne projected   14,875         9,237     5,638   
Buerkle gain                                             2,255   
Existing Maffei lead 93,090      95,286      2,196   
Projected Buerkle margin                          59   


Yes, Sam, Larsen is certainly still in the hunt. You are right. He needs to do about 2% better with what remains than he has done with what came before.

            existing     Projected     Diff       Larsen margin  Larsen %
                      per spreadsheet         needed to win  needed to win    
Koster   87,687   137,591   49,904   47,865       0.486            
Larsen   86,258   134,842   48,584   50,623       0.514            
            
                             2,749   98,487     2,758
Koster      50.4%
Larsen      49.6%

So 63-65 net seat GOP gain, with WA-2, NY-25 and CA-11 still in play.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.

That area is turning very liberal, very fast.  It is essentially the Fairfax, VA of the west.  It has probably ceased to be competitive in national elections.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:17:38 PM
Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate.

Maybe, Torie.  We don't know for sure.  The Westchester County Board of Elections is so incompetent that they are only reporting 75% of the county's vote right now.  They show the Democrat leading by 180 with 80% in.  The AP has a tally supposedly showing the Republican in that race up by 2300 with 81% in.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 03, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
Well, California, but we're not allowed to gerrymander that unfortunately.

Yes, the Dems don't control the process in California. In fact, they, along with the Republicans, have absolutely nothing to do with it. What it has most to do with is federal law, and the host of strictures of how districts have to be drawn, that are now statutory in California, and are to be implemented by the independent commission.

The GOP appears to have drawn a royal flush when it comes to the gerrymandering wars. I wonder how much the GOP endeavored to maximize the odds of that particular draw?

On the flip side, Republicans now wont be able to gerrymander Florida with the redistricting proposition that passed. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: SPQR on November 03, 2010, 02:23:59 PM
What's going on in CT4?
NyTimes has called it for the Dems,but with 80% in the Republican leads by 100ish votes.Also,it's the district where the votes left to count for the governor's race are.

"The numbers we have show me ahead about 5,000 votes in the 16 towns that are not Bridgeport but unfortunately I will lose by a much larger margin than that in Bridgeport," Debicella said.
Oh,ok ;)
I suppose that's why AP called CT for Malloy,too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 03, 2010, 02:24:53 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.

It was, not anymore.  Suburban Denver swung pretty heavily Democratic over the last few years, didn't swing back.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 03, 2010, 02:26:57 PM
Alvin did better than I expected. A solid showing for my favorite Senate candidate!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:35:51 PM
Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate.

Maybe, Torie.  We don't know for sure.  The Westchester County Board of Elections is so incompetent that they are only reporting 75% of the county's vote right now.  They show the Democrat leading by 180 with 80% in.  The AP has a tally supposedly showing the Republican in that race up by 2300 with 81% in.

Both parties appear to believe that the GOP won both the Long Island and  Buffalo seats, giving the GOP 32 seats, no matter how Westchester turns out, and the GOP needs to win only one of the two seats that it is thought that they will probably win to get a 31-31 tie in the NY State Senate. Am I missing something here Cinyc?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:36:50 PM
Alvin Greene got more vote for US Senate than Sharon Angle.

That doesn't mean much.  South Carolina's population is almost double that of Nevada's.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 02:40:26 PM
The last two precincts in VA-11 got counted; Connolly wins by 921 votes. That number will probably fluctuate a bit as tabulation errors get corrected, but I'd say he's won.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 03, 2010, 02:43:23 PM
Alvin Greene got more vote for US Senate than Sharon Angle.

That doesn't mean much.  South Carolina's population is almost double that of Nevada's.

I'm surprised he nearly received 30% of the vote and that he won several counties!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 02:52:25 PM
Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate.

Maybe, Torie.  We don't know for sure.  The Westchester County Board of Elections is so incompetent that they are only reporting 75% of the county's vote right now.  They show the Democrat leading by 180 with 80% in.  The AP has a tally supposedly showing the Republican in that race up by 2300 with 81% in.
b

Both parties appear to believe that the GOP won both the Long Island and  Buffalo seats, giving the GOP 32 seats, no matter how Westchester turns out, and the GOP needs to win only one of the two seats that it is thought that they will probably win to get a 31-31 tie in the NY State Senate. Am I missing something here Cinyc?

I agree about the LI seat, but I'm a little surprised that the Dems think they lost the Buffalo seat.  The Erie County Board of Elections' last numbers had the Dem up by 2,500 - though the AP count differs.  I guess the Erie County Board of Elections is almost as incompetent as Westchester's.  Having only 75% of the vote in the on the next day is inexcusable - almost Bridgeport-level inexcusable.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 02:59:39 PM
Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate.

Maybe, Torie.  We don't know for sure.  The Westchester County Board of Elections is so incompetent that they are only reporting 75% of the county's vote right now.  They show the Democrat leading by 180 with 80% in.  The AP has a tally supposedly showing the Republican in that race up by 2300 with 81% in.
b

Both parties appear to believe that the GOP won both the Long Island and  Buffalo seats, giving the GOP 32 seats, no matter how Westchester turns out, and the GOP needs to win only one of the two seats that it is thought that they will probably win to get a 31-31 tie in the NY State Senate. Am I missing something here Cinyc?

I agree about the LI seat, but I'm a little surprised that the Dems think they lost the Buffalo seat.  The Erie County Board of Elections' last numbers had the Dem up by 2,500 - though the AP count differs.  I guess the Erie County Board of Elections is almost as incompetent as Westchester's.  Having only 75% of the vote in the on the next day is inexcusable - almost Bridgeport-level inexcusable.

They must know where the missing precincts are in Erie County, I guess.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 03:06:18 PM
Well, California, but we're not allowed to gerrymander that unfortunately.

Yes, the Dems don't control the process in California. In fact, they, along with the Republicans, have absolutely nothing to do with it. What it has most to do with is federal law, and the host of strictures of how districts have to be drawn, that are now statutory in California, and are to be implemented by the independent commission.

The GOP appears to have drawn a royal flush when it comes to the gerrymandering wars. I wonder how much the GOP endeavored to maximize the odds of that particular draw?

On the flip side, Republicans now wont be able to gerrymander Florida with the redistricting proposition that passed. 

Yes, and per your post, I looked up in the Miami Herald the story about the proposition. It says lines need respect city and county boundaries (the GOP can handle that without losing too much of its gerrymandering punch, although it might be tough to save Alan West in FL-22), but then the story I read says that in addition, one is not to take partisan considerations into mind. Huh?  How do you enforce that one?  Is it like what porn is to the US Supreme Court (we know it when we see it, or what)?  Or is it just a crummy reporting job, and the prop in fact has in it more specific metrics about the shape of districts, to squeeze out partisanship?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 03, 2010, 03:18:15 PM
I just got an email today saying the Republicans took control of both the NC House and Senate for the first time since Reconstruction. Not bad.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 03, 2010, 03:26:15 PM
McNerney down 23 votes right now. Can you say recount?
BTW, he's not a Blue Dog. Blue Dog Costa seems to have lost (also one of the uncalled races).

Harmer is probably going to lose to the Dem, unless the 2 or 3 precincts out in Santa Clara County are disproportionately Republican, which is possible (somewhere in gated communities in Moraga or something), but unlikely.

Santa Clara
Updated 7 minutes ago
McNerney    4,900 51%
Harmer     4,254 45%
86% of precincts reporting

Now 100% of precincts have reported and Mcnerney won Santa Clara 52-44. Turns out the precincts weren't in some country club in Moraga (especially since the city the district picks up in Santa Clara is Morgan Hill :P). I knew Harmer was going down when I saw San Joaquin was within 5 and 100% reported with about half of Alameda still to go. A Republican really needs to win by about 8 or so to win. The only reason this one was close is because Harmer overperformed in the tri valley, especially in Contra Costa county, which is his home county.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 03, 2010, 03:27:55 PM
Well, California, but we're not allowed to gerrymander that unfortunately.

Yes, the Dems don't control the process in California. In fact, they, along with the Republicans, have absolutely nothing to do with it. What it has most to do with is federal law, and the host of strictures of how districts have to be drawn, that are now statutory in California, and are to be implemented by the independent commission.

The GOP appears to have drawn a royal flush when it comes to the gerrymandering wars. I wonder how much the GOP endeavored to maximize the odds of that particular draw?

On the flip side, Republicans now wont be able to gerrymander Florida with the redistricting proposition that passed. 

Yes, and per your post, I looked up in the Miami Herald the story about the proposition. It says lines need respect city and county boundaries (the GOP can handle that without losing too much of its gerrymandering punch, although it might be tough to save Alan West in FL-22), but then the story I read says that in addition, one is not to take partisan considerations into mind. Huh?  How do you enforce that one?  Is it like what porn is to the US Supreme Court (we know it when we see it, or what)?  Or is it just a crummy reporting job, and the prop in fact has in it more specific metrics about the shape of districts, to squeeze out partisanship?

Essentially, no more drawing tendrils out of Orange county to make FL-08 safe for Republicans. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2010, 03:30:17 PM
Essentially, no more drawing tendrils out of Orange county to make FL-08 safe for Republicans. 

Presumably tricks like corralling the minority neighborhoods of St. Petersburg and Bradenton and sticking them into a district with Tampa to save FL-10 are out. And I wonder how they can cut cities like Fort Lauderdale into three pieces (wealthy sliver for FL-22, African-American portion, other Democrat) when it's much smaller than an existing district in size.

Corrine Brown is very angry at this amendment and is threatening to go to court.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: jaichind on November 03, 2010, 03:32:58 PM
I actually live in the Oppenheimer-Cohen district.  Oppenheimer had all kinds of signs which had "SUZI" on it instead of her last name.  Both seems to have avoided party labels and Cohen emphised his endorcement from Mike Bloomberg and NY Times.  Oppenheimer  not pushing a partisan campaign in a year where Palidino's brand was a drag was a mistake.  Cohen was able to leverge his social moderation (with Bloomberg and NY Times endorcement) as well as the tax issue (housing prices are going down in the Scarsdale area but real estate taxes in absolute terms is going up plus possible increases in state income taxes) in high income Scarsdale area to lead to a possible upset.  

Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate.

Maybe, Torie.  We don't know for sure.  The Westchester County Board of Elections is so incompetent that they are only reporting 75% of the county's vote right now.  They show the Democrat leading by 180 with 80% in.  The AP has a tally supposedly showing the Republican in that race up by 2300 with 81% in.


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 03, 2010, 03:33:06 PM
How comes Washington is so slow to count its votes ? Since I woke up the reporting % has remained at 62... ???


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 03:37:44 PM
What I understand based on reading blogs (lol):
-King County has received 114,000 new ballots today, pushing the total on hand to about 300,000.
-King County is expecting to receive another 45,000 in the mail and from drop boxes.
-So in total, King County probably has about 345,000 ballots left.


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Holmes on November 03, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
It's a mail-in vote state. Most of the votes that haven't been counted yet probably haven't arrived yet since the deadline to mail in your ballot was yesterday.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
They'll probably have to let McIntyre live if they want Ellmers to stay. There's not a whole lot you can do with NC-11, unless you turn it into a bizarre squidlike district. Kissell, however, is probably going to be screwed.

Who would really care about creating one more bizarre squid-like district in North Carolina?  North Carolina is already the king of bizarre squid-like districts - putting even Texas to shame.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 03:52:46 PM
Colorado has now been called for Bennett by the AP and CNN! :)

He went against the traditional "Dem in a swing state" playbook by blasting Buck every single day on abortion and other social wedge issues. Looks like it worked. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a big gender gap in this race because of that.


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 03:53:14 PM
If the remaining ~347,000 ballots in King County have the same 62.0-38.0 margin (big assumption), that would be a net gain of 83,000 for Murray.

If the ~595,000 ballots in the rest of the state kept the same 53.5-47.5 margin for Rossi, that would be a net gain of about 42,000 for Rossi.

Murray ends up winning with 51.17% in this scenario. I made a lot of big assumptions, and I know this wasn't the most advanced set of calculations (I might try to do a more detailed analysis for the non-King portion of the state later) but I have to do something while I wait for the painstakingly slow results. ;D


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 03:57:05 PM
Colorado has now been called for Bennett.


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 04:02:17 PM
Alaska

99% reporting

Write-Ins lead by 13588 (6.8%). It is likely to estimate than a sufficient share of them are for Murkowski.

As usual, no borough results in Alaska.

You will NEVER see a borough-level map of Alaska.  The state reports by House Districts, which sometimes straddle borough/CDP lines.  Even some precincts straddle the lines.

I will put up a map of Alaska by HD when all the precincts report, probably by tonight, Alaska Time.  Last I checked, they were at 432/438.  Miller and McAdams got absolutely pummeled in the bush HDs (37-40).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
In other words, "President Obama, they don't have your back."  This time.

Ha! So you heard those ridiculous ads, too? That's what I get for liking rap.


This is a foreshadowing of things to come. You can't win with JUST Filthadelphia. Sestak's margins in Philly were spectacular. It wasn't enough.

I've argued that for years (not the point about "Filthadelphia." :P ). I think the Dems have gotten too cocky about their chances in the SE suburbs. It seems as if they expect decent margins out of the collar counties and just need to focus on insane turnout in Philly. It doesn't work especially when the Republican nominee ends up winning some of those counties (Toomey won Bucks and Chester).


If Obama and Brady aren't doing a huge recruiting drive there for registering new voters in 2012 that voted in 2008 and not 2010 I'd be shocked. Pennsylvania will be one of the key battleground states in 2012 so I'm sure Obama will put a big ground game in there.

Of course Brady will be doing that kind of recruitment. I wish I could be at the next Democratic City Committee meeting. Boss Brady will probably go off on quite a few people. Turnout in West Philly (where he controls one of the Wards) was huge but I've heard that North Philly had a pathetic showing.

Even though Onorato (83%) and Sestak (84%) won the city big, there was more that could have been done and that could have saved them a Senate seat. Bob Brady won't like Pat Toomey as a U.S. Senator at all. Talk about polar opposites.

All that being said, you have to take note of the gigantic Republican wins here. Brady and Obama will do their recruiting but they have far less to work with now. The PA GOP, on the other hand, is at it's highest point in generations. Again, we have a Governor, a U.S. Senator, a five seat advantage in the Congressional delegation (after five pickups last night), the State Senate by a wide margin and the State House by a margin we haven't seen in awhile. In fact, that majority might grow by two seats after two recounts in Bucks county. This helps from an organizational standpoint and, most importantly, when it comes to redistricting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 04:35:58 PM
I really am stunned at how well we did here with these races. Five pickups is awesome and we fell just a few thousand votes short of seven pickups.

The Fitzpatrick margin was the biggest shock. I wasn't the only Republican that expected a much closer race. I also can't believe how close Rothfus and Burns came to winning. I guess the idea that Rothfus had some of the best volunteers in the state wasn't a joke. Too bad he fell just short.

Marino's margin of victory was surprising, too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 04:38:37 PM
The Fitzpatrick margin was the biggest shock.

I told you so, and you should have known more about this than I did.

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Marino's margin of victory was surprising, too.

Republicans should never have lost that seat in the first place - at the first decent Republican wave, Carney was dead.  I'm more surprised Kanjo finally lost.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 04:40:47 PM


I told you so, and you should have known more about this than I did.

Other involved people were stunned.



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Republicans should never have lost that seat in the first place - at the first decent Republican wave, Carney was dead. 

Yeah but Carney is personally popular, is a great (though apparently not great enough) campaigner and Marino had some issues. A Marino win wasn't a crazy idea but Marino by ten certainly wasn't a common prediction.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 04:44:52 PM


I told you so, and you should have known more about this than I did.

Other involved people were stunned.

If a wave was going to hit involving Obama, Bucks County was a quite logical place for it to land, given his base.

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Republicans should never have lost that seat in the first place - at the first decent Republican wave, Carney was dead. 

Yeah but Carney is personally popular, is a great (though apparently not great enough) campaigner and Marino had some issues. A Marino win wasn't a crazy idea but Marino by ten certainly wasn't a common prediction.
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But with that district, none of that really mattered.  As one should expect.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ucscgaldamez on November 03, 2010, 04:51:28 PM
Will Rossi lose a third time in a row? If he loses, I feel he should give up trying. : )


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 04:56:16 PM
What I understand based on reading blogs (lol):
-King County has received 114,000 new ballots today, pushing the total on hand to about 300,000.
-King County is expecting to receive another 45,000 in the mail and from drop boxes.
-So in total, King County probably has about 345,000 ballots left.

What are the implications here?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 05:01:14 PM
Is there any state where gerrymandering is important, that the Dems totally control? Did the GOP win back the NY senate? Apparently, the GOP probably (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/nyregion/04nylegis.html?hp) did take back the NY state senate.

Maybe, Torie.  We don't know for sure.  The Westchester County Board of Elections is so incompetent that they are only reporting 75% of the county's vote right now.  They show the Democrat leading by 180 with 80% in.  The AP has a tally supposedly showing the Republican in that race up by 2300 with 81% in.
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Both parties appear to believe that the GOP won both the Long Island and  Buffalo seats, giving the GOP 32 seats, no matter how Westchester turns out, and the GOP needs to win only one of the two seats that it is thought that they will probably win to get a 31-31 tie in the NY State Senate. Am I missing something here Cinyc?

I agree about the LI seat, but I'm a little surprised that the Dems think they lost the Buffalo seat.  The Erie County Board of Elections' last numbers had the Dem up by 2,500 - though the AP count differs.  I guess the Erie County Board of Elections is almost as incompetent as Westchester's.  Having only 75% of the vote in the on the next day is inexcusable - almost Bridgeport-level inexcusable.

They must know where the missing precincts are in Erie County, I guess.

Ah - I see what I did - looked at Erie but not Niagara County.  All is in now.  The Republican is ahead by 468 going into absentees.  That will likely hold.

You can thank Paladino's coattails for that pickup - too the extent coattails even exits.

Westchester is still stuck on 80%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Silent Hunter on November 03, 2010, 05:04:19 PM
OK, I'm going to have to say it: Harry Reid is a political Time Lord.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2010, 05:10:48 PM

This is a foreshadowing of things to come. You can't win with JUST Filthadelphia. Sestak's margins in Philly were spectacular. It wasn't enough.

I've argued that for years (not the point about "Filthadelphia." :P ). I think the Dems have gotten too cocky about their chances in the SE suburbs. It seems as if they expect decent margins out of the collar counties and just need to focus on insane turnout in Philly. It doesn't work especially when the Republican nominee ends up winning some of those counties (Toomey won Bucks and Chester).


This basically was the pattern from the 1980's, and in some races, into the 1990s.  The Republican candidate runs at registration in the SE, losing it.  Then he runs at registration in the T, winning it.  Then they get to SW, and run well ahead of registration.

If Obama and Brady aren't doing a huge recruiting drive there for registering new voters in 2012 that voted in 2008 and not 2010 I'd be shocked. Pennsylvania will be one of the key battleground states in 2012 so I'm sure Obama will put a big ground game in there.

Of course Brady will be doing that kind of recruitment. I wish I could be at the next Democratic City Committee meeting. Boss Brady will probably go off on quite a few people. Turnout in West Philly (where he controls one of the Wards) was huge but I've heard that North Philly had a pathetic showing.

Mine wasn't bad, but it was just above 2006 rates.

How did the turnout in the suburbs do versus 2006?

BTW, at 110 seats in the State House, this is the highest majority since 1976 for any party.  For the Republicans, it is the highest number since 1932.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 03, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
Angle losing Washoe is the funniest part for me.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 05:15:16 PM

This is a foreshadowing of things to come. You can't win with JUST Filthadelphia. Sestak's margins in Philly were spectacular. It wasn't enough.

I've argued that for years (not the point about "Filthadelphia." :P ). I think the Dems have gotten too cocky about their chances in the SE suburbs. It seems as if they expect decent margins out of the collar counties and just need to focus on insane turnout in Philly. It doesn't work especially when the Republican nominee ends up winning some of those counties (Toomey won Bucks and Chester).


This basically was the pattern from the 1980's, and in some races, into the 1990s.  The Republican candidate runs at registration in the SE, losing it.  Then he runs at registration in the T, winning it.  Then they get to SW, and run well ahead of registration.

If Obama and Brady aren't doing a huge recruiting drive there for registering new voters in 2012 that voted in 2008 and not 2010 I'd be shocked. Pennsylvania will be one of the key battleground states in 2012 so I'm sure Obama will put a big ground game in there.

Of course Brady will be doing that kind of recruitment. I wish I could be at the next Democratic City Committee meeting. Boss Brady will probably go off on quite a few people. Turnout in West Philly (where he controls one of the Wards) was huge but I've heard that North Philly had a pathetic showing.

Mine wasn't bad, but it was just above 2006 rates.

How did the turnout in the suburbs do versus 2006?

Eyeballing it, this year looks better.

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BTW, at 110 seats in the State House, this is the highest majority since 1976 for any party.  For the Republicans, it is the highest number since 1932.

I thought we hit 112 already.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on November 03, 2010, 05:19:17 PM
OK, I'm going to have to say it: Harry Reid is a political Time Lord.

Lol, I thought that was Clinton after 94.:P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 03, 2010, 05:35:50 PM
Has Alvin Greene actually conceded defeat?  I would love to see his concession speech.


Morden he probably has no phone too call and concede with.......and no microphone or podium for a speech.....unless the outhouse counts.

Lack of a phone wouldn't prevent him from making a speech.  One of the local media outlets should have sent some reporters to "Alvin Greene campaign headquarters" (whatever that might be) to cover his election night speech.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 05:41:06 PM
WA update:

Adams, Lewis, Pend Oreille (ultra Rossi) and Skagit (lean Rossi) updated. Murray lead down to 0.96 from 0.98. Will be a lot more updates through 7pm or so.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 05:53:53 PM
Will Rossi lose a third time in a row? If he loses, I feel he should give up trying. : )

But who will run in 2012!? Sure, McKenna will for Governor, but Rossi can still challenge Cantwell! :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 03, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
cnn exit poll FL : Rubio wins 55 % of latinos (12 % of the voters).

Meek wins 76 % of the blacks voters (11 % of the voters).

And of course the actual numbers proved Crist had a chance.  Great job Meek.:P

 . . . assuming the same turnout and that at least 98 percent of the combined Crist + Meek voters would have still voted for Crist.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 03, 2010, 06:00:10 PM
Buerkle now ahead in NY-25....I guess it will come down to absentees
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/ann_marie_buerkle_picks_up_vot.html (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/ann_marie_buerkle_picks_up_vot.html)

659 votes is a decent margin at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
Snohomish County will update at 7:00 PM PST. That will give us a much better picture of how WA-2 might go, though I suspect Koster will maintain his lead.

We'll also get Whatcom County at 5:00 PM.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 03, 2010, 06:04:36 PM
FYI There isn't a new Democratic firewall! It was the tea party's fault for senate losses and crappy candidates recruitment in some places.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 03, 2010, 06:05:53 PM
Buerkle now ahead in NY-25....I guess it will come down to absentees
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/ann_marie_buerkle_picks_up_vot.html (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/ann_marie_buerkle_picks_up_vot.html)

Good news.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 03, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
     I am ever so slightly amused by the Democrats pulling out every close race & retaining a majority of U.S. House seats in North Carolina of all places.

NC is the craziest Democrat-drawn gerrymander in the country. The state legislature is GOP now, so that advantage quite possibly wont last long.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 03, 2010, 06:19:07 PM
     I am ever so slightly amused by the Democrats pulling out every close race & retaining a majority of U.S. House seats in North Carolina of all places.

NC is the craziest Democrat-drawn gerrymander in the country. The state legislature is GOP now, so that advantage quite possibly wont last long.

I think we can be pretty sure that it won't last beyond the next round of redistricting. Which...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: memphis on November 03, 2010, 06:22:46 PM
Too early for a rough estimate of national popular vote? I rather doubt it's the R+15 crap that gallup was shovelling.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 03, 2010, 06:31:03 PM
Will Rossi lose a third time in a row? If he loses, I feel he should give up trying. : )

But who will run in 2012!? Sure, McKenna will for Governor, but Rossi can still challenge Cantwell! :P

Republicans in Washington need someone fresh to run against Cantwell. Perhaps Sam Reed or Cathy McMorris Rodgers. Are there any State senators that could run that could run an excellent campaign and make a competitive race like Rossi did in 2004?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 06:36:51 PM
King counted another 44,996 votes, so it probably has about 300,000 left to count.

The new batch voted 67-33 Murray, pushing King to 63-37 Murray (from 62-38) and thus increases her statewide lead from ~14,000 to ~31,000, or from 0.96% to 2.06%.

EDIT: fixed some numbers.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 03, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
It's done. Republicans should have found a better candidate to put up. I don't see Rossi making up a margin that large.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 06:41:23 PM
WA-2 Tracker:

Skagit County update pushes Koster's lead down from 50.41-49.59 to 50.38-49.62


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 06:55:22 PM
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Isn't it possible that NY-25 could still go to the GOP as well? Maffei leads by just 2,196 votes. The county that still has to report 40% of their precincts is Wayne and Buerkle has nearly a 3,400 vote lead in that county through the first 60%... I don't know anything about the county so I may be wrong.. but it seems possible for the GOP to pick this one up too.. It should be very close. What does everyone else think?


Yes you are right, Reds4.

                             Buerkle   Maffei   Margin   
Wayne existing        8,925         5,542     3,383   0.6
Wayne projected   14,875         9,237     5,638   
Buerkle gain                                             2,255   
Existing Maffei lead 93,090      95,286      2,196   
Projected Buerkle margin                          59   


Yes, Sam, Larsen is certainly still in the hunt. You are right. He needs to do about 2% better with what remains than he has done with what came before.

            existing     Projected     Diff       Larsen margin  Larsen %
                      per spreadsheet         needed to win  needed to win    
Koster   87,687   137,591   49,904   47,865       0.486            
Larsen   86,258   134,842   48,584   50,623       0.514            
            
                             2,749   98,487     2,758
Koster      50.4%
Larsen      49.6%

So 63-65 net seat GOP gain, with WA-2, NY-25 and CA-11 still in play.

As an update to this for NY-25, instead of a projected Buerkle lead of 59, it ended up being 659.  Apparently, 9,500 absentee ballots are left to count (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20101103/NEWS01/101103027/1003/Buerkle-takes-slim-lead-in-25th-Congressional-District[/url), 7,000 of then in Onondaga County.

So if Maffei is to win now, he needs to run with the remaining 7,000 absentees in Onondaga County at about the double the margin did run with the votes already counted there, to about a 16% margin from an 8% margin. The assumes that Buerkle runs about as well with the 2,500 absentees from the other three counties in the district, as he did in the votes counted there to date. Buerkle clearly has a pretty big edge now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 03, 2010, 06:55:59 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.

That area is turning very liberal, very fast.  It is essentially the Fairfax, VA of the west.  It has probably ceased to be competitive in national elections.
All the liberals moving from CA and the west coast, Illinois and New York. You can thank them bringing their ideologies with them and ruining it.  TX and AZ is looking better each day. CO = east CA


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 06:56:58 PM
WA-2 Tracker

Whatcom County has further decreased Koster's lead to 50.10-49.90!

If Snohomish (the biggest county) follows the lead of Skagit and Whatcom, Larsen should take the lead.

Koster's lead has shrunk from 1,429 to just 363.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ajc0918 on November 03, 2010, 07:00:19 PM
My first post-election response...

Okay well I attended the Crist election night party, and I will say even though almost everyone already knew he was going to lose the atmosphere wasn't too upset. I mean obviously some of the campaign staff was crying, and people weren't like jumping everywhere...but I'd say everyone who was there was a loyal supporter of Crist through thick and thin.

I'm not sure why, but before Crist came out to concede there was so much energy( it certainly didn't sound like the end) AND they played "Don't Stop Believing" when he walked onstage... lol. Crist won his home county by about 2% (I think). Sure not by a lot, but a win is a win I guess considering he lost by 20 points.

But what I basically am saying is I don't think Crist is done politically, nationally most likely, but I could really see him running for Congress (FL-10) if Bill Young retires or for St.Pete Mayor (next election is in 2013).

Anyway I got a very interesting feeling at the event and thought I should share. lol


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 03, 2010, 07:07:09 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.

It was when it was drawn, but things have changed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 03, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.

It was when it was drawn, but things have changed.
Are they getting redrawn next year?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 07:31:42 PM
If you saw my last post, ignore it since I inverted the numbers.

Larsen has now taken the lead with 51.10% of the vote to Koster's 49.90%!

San Juan and Island Counties updated, and gave Larsen a net gain of 760 votes, so Larsen now leads by 397.

I'm not coming to any conclusions until Snohomish County reports in 90 minutes, but all of the other counties in WA-2 have been more Dem today than yesterday.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on November 03, 2010, 07:37:21 PM
How could he get through a Republican primary for FL-10 though? Or would he run as an indie?

I could actually see mayor of St. Pete happening though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ogre Mage on November 03, 2010, 07:38:45 PM
Interesting quote from the spokesman for the WA Secretary of State on the Murray/Rossi race:

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Murray's reason for confidence: King County, the Democratic stronghold that houses more than 1 million voters alone, is only registering 35 percent turnout rate thus far.

The Secretary of State's office tells POLITICO that indicates it is likely underrepresented in the current statewide total.

"They're backlogged and somewhat underrepresented," said spokesman Dave Ammons. "The numbers will continue to grow for her there. She might not get a full 62 percent, but she'll still have a supermajority from King."

The county – which usually constitutes about 30 percent of the statewide vote – Is expected to report another estimated 137,000 ballots Wednesday afternoon, which should help pad Murray's advantage.

"King is her ace in the hole. It's what saves a lot of statewide Democrats," said Ammons. "You can win our state with just five or seven counties. The joke is you can see all the votes you need by the Space Needle."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/senate-races-2010/ (http://www.politico.com/blogs/senate-races-2010/)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ajc0918 on November 03, 2010, 07:47:04 PM
How could he get through a Republican primary for FL-10 though? Or would he run as an indie?

I could actually see mayor of St. Pete happening though.

lol yeah he wouldn't run as a republican. Idk maybe Indie...
St.Pete mayor is non-partisan, so that would be easy.

BTW, I'd just like to point out that I'm a pretty die-hard republican. Crist is probably the first non-republican candidate I've supported, but when people leave comments like this on my FB
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"thank god rubio won looks like charlie is out for good... maybe now he can settle down with his boyfriend"
It really pisses me off. Especially considering that I've never worked harder for a candidate than I have for Crist and I've only been chastised for supporting Crist since like April. You really think people should have the decency to respect my choice.

Excuse my rant, but I'm only 17 and I've really never cared about losing a race until now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 03, 2010, 08:19:03 PM
Has Alvin Greene actually conceded defeat?  I would love to see his concession speech.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6thr9t6igSo


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 08:24:03 PM
The Denver Post has called the race for Michael Bennet.
Colorado now has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators. :) And 2 were elected in one of the worst cycles for Dems ever.

We're becoming a landlocked Washington state! :P

Although, the Republicans do have 4 of the 7 House seats, and they won back the state House (though narrowly). They have also held the AG, are on track to win the SoS race, and are neck and neck in the Treasurer's race.

How did Perlmutter managed to survive so comfortably?
CO-7 is supposed to be the epitome of the swing district.

It was when it was drawn, but things have changed.
Are they getting redrawn next year?

Yes, and the GOP took the State House of Representatives, so it will be a compromise map, probably favoring the Democrats overall though because they have the State Senate and the Governor.  I would imagine that Gardiner's and Perlmutter's districts get shored up to make them both safe.  If they are daring, the Dems might push to make CO-03 easier for Salazar to retake, but other than that, the status quo should be more or less preserved.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 03, 2010, 08:34:31 PM
Snohomish has reported, and Larsen now leads by 507 votes and has 50.13% of the vote.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 03, 2010, 08:57:45 PM
Delaware has a fancy new results map:

http://delaware-ms.esri.com/ElectionResults/

(Amusingly, the IPOD guy that ran against Beau and got 21% won a single precinct in Sussex.)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 03, 2010, 09:02:12 PM
It is essentially the Fairfax, VA of the west.

What? Absolute nonsense. CO-7 is working class suburbia. Fairfax, VA...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2010, 09:03:00 PM
I don't have the numbers from 2003-6, but I don't there was ever a 110 R in the House since the 1950's.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2010, 09:10:40 PM
Excuse my rant, but I'm only 17 and I've really never cared about losing a race until now.

It's ok, man. Trust me one gets used to it. ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 09:13:20 PM
Delaware has a fancy new results map:

http://delaware-ms.esri.com/ElectionResults/

(Amusingly, the IPOD guy that ran against Beau and got 21% won a single precinct in Sussex.)

Excellent map.  Perhaps the IPOD quy lives in that Sussex precinct?

It's funny how these southern-ish states put the Northeast and much of the Midwest to shame when it comes to election result reporting.  We don't even have full results in in parts of New York yet.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 03, 2010, 09:14:56 PM
Is NY-25 still a possible R pickup?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 03, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
The witch lady can finally say she won those two counties.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 09:32:21 PM
Is NY-25 still a possible R pickup?

Possible?  Yes.  Actually, it's likely now.  The last precincts came in, and the Republican is 659 votes ahead (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/ann_marie_buerkle_picks_up_vot.html).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 03, 2010, 09:55:16 PM
It is essentially the Fairfax, VA of the west.

What? Absolute nonsense. CO-7 is working class suburbia. Fairfax, VA...

Well they are both comprised of close in suburbs. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2010, 09:59:25 PM
Is Himes' seat in doubt again after the CT mess?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 03, 2010, 10:03:17 PM
Is Himes' seat in doubt again after the CT mess?

Probably not, but who knows?  The AP rescinded its call in the CT-Gov Race but not CT-04, as far as I know.  

Heck, I'm not even sure Bridgeport has counted the CT-04 votes.  Apparently, they sometimes photocopied ballots when they ran out, and had to hand-count them.   BTW - if they just photocopied ballots, why did the polls have to remain open for another 2 hours, exactly? Elections in third-world banana republics are run better.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on November 03, 2010, 10:18:48 PM
The city of Seattle is reporting later than tthe rest of the county.  I'm not surprised.  It looks like Murray could hit 65% in King County.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
Toomey won.  He got 35% in Phili.  That one is over.

Ha. If only that was true. He would have hit about 60% if that was the case. He only got 16% here.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 03, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 03, 2010, 10:42:26 PM
I want my money back!

I wonder how many heart attacks Phil suffered from while they counted this though?

Oh, if you guys only knew.  ;)

There was a period (I think it was from 9:45 - 10:30) where I thought it was over or close to being finished for Toomey but that slow comeback led to some pretty interesting reactions.  :P

The best was racing over to the Board of Elections when we thought it was going to a recount. I got out of my car with some others and as I'm running across the street towards the building, I found out that Sestak called Toomey to concede and that the AP called the race for Toomey.

I was initially very calm, reassuring people at the party that the early numbers were going to favor Sestak by a very wide margin. Things kept getting worse and I'm thinking to myself, "This isn't happening, is it?" Then the comeback. Ironic that the final comeback was for the guy that lead in polling almost the entire race.  ;)

It might have been a stressful night but it was exciting. I can appreciate that.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2010, 10:51:27 PM
So does anyone know when/if Fayette County, PA last voted for a Republican for U.S. Senate?

Possibly 1982; Heinz had huge victory, larger than Ted Kennedy's.  If not then, probably prior to WWII.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: jimrtex on November 03, 2010, 11:27:41 PM
Solomon Ortiz = dead.  Anyone want to place bets on whether Farenthold can hold more than one term?
The logical place to draw the new South Texas district is from Corpus northward.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: jimrtex on November 04, 2010, 12:03:58 AM
Yes, and per your post, I looked up in the Miami Herald the story about the proposition. It says lines need respect city and county boundaries (the GOP can handle that without losing too much of its gerrymandering punch, although it might be tough to save Alan West in FL-22), but then the story I read says that in addition, one is not to take partisan considerations into mind. Huh?  How do you enforce that one?  Is it like what porn is to the US Supreme Court (we know it when we see it, or what)?  Or is it just a crummy reporting job, and the prop in fact has in it more specific metrics about the shape of districts, to squeeze out partisanship?
What the legislature is supposed to do is draw monstrosities like CD 3, and the stringy districts along the Gold Coast, and then respect county boundaries elsewhere.  Alternatively throw a bowl of spaghetti at the Miami-Palm Beach are and then take a knife and cut the strands where they cross county lines.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 04, 2010, 12:08:07 AM
Rossi: The professional election loser.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: redcommander on November 04, 2010, 12:13:44 AM
Hopefully this is the last we see of him. Murray was in a weak enough position that she should have gone down. I guess Washington Republicans will have to put their hopes on McKenna revitalizing the party in 2012.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 04, 2010, 12:15:55 AM
Hopefully this is the last we see of him. Murray was in a weak enough position that she should have gone down. I guess Washington Republicans will have to put their hopes on McKenna revitalizing the party in 2012.

Rossi was probably the best candidate the GOP could have run here.

McKenna has his sights on Governor and is not all interested in the Senate. Rodgers seems happy in the House, and has risen rather quickly within the Republican ranks from what I understand (not to mention candidates from the East tend to lose). I would've thought Reichert, maybe, but his rather anemic performance this year has changed my mind on that one.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 04, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
So King is busy digging up ballots as we speak?

If Rossi said something about his supporters needing second amendment remedies, I'd be inclined to be sympathetic, given his history . . .


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 04, 2010, 12:21:46 AM
So King is busy digging up ballots as we speak?

If Rossi said something about his supporters needing second amendment remedies, I'd be inclined to be sympathetic, given his history . . .

You people are insanely paranoid. Not only does Washington seem to be slow at counting it's ballots normally, but people also vote by mail there, meaning they are still receiving some ballots in today and maybe even for the next couple days or more. Your ability to assume any close election that Republicans lose, not even elections where this is a even far out-there suspicion let alone a real possibility, is a stolen one, is blowing my mind.

I honestly don't even believe you mean it at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 04, 2010, 12:26:09 AM
Excuse my rant, but I'm only 17 and I've really never cared about losing a race until now.

It's ok, man. Trust me one gets used to it. ;)

Especially when you're a Democrat. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 04, 2010, 12:26:23 AM
So King is busy digging up ballots as we speak?

If Rossi said something about his supporters needing second amendment remedies, I'd be inclined to be sympathetic, given his history . . .

Oh shut up already.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on November 04, 2010, 12:30:31 AM
So King is busy digging up ballots as we speak?

If Rossi said something about his supporters needing second amendment remedies, I'd be inclined to be sympathetic, given his history . . .

300,000 dug up ballots, to be exact!  


I even helped forge 50,000 of them myself.  :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ogre Mage on November 04, 2010, 01:34:21 AM
So King is busy digging up ballots as we speak?

If Rossi said something about his supporters needing second amendment remedies, I'd be inclined to be sympathetic, given his history . . .

Sour grapes is a terrible thing.  Perhaps Rossi might have done better if he spent more time studying the issues.  Then he would not have flubbed his answer about Boeing's tanker contract in front of the Tacoma News Tribune editorial board, a basic WA Politics 101 question any fool should be able to answer.  Or shown his ignorance about Net Neutrality in front of the Seattle Times editorial board.  Murray knew what Net Neutrality was.   Click on the link and watch the 2:17 minute clip entitled "Net Neutrality."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/flatpages/local/politics/editorialinterviewssenate2010.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/flatpages/local/politics/editorialinterviewssenate2010.html)

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Seattle Times:  Do you understand what Net Neutrality is?

Rossi:  I've read about it.

Seattle Times:  Is it fair to say you don't?  

Rossi:  "I haven't fully examined it all.  But the idea that people would control would make me nervous, especially if the federal government were involved."


lol.  From the Seattle Times endorsement of Patty Murray:

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On almost every topic, Murray is studied and has an answer. On the issue of net neutrality, which involves unfettered access to the Internet, Rossi did not have a clue, even though this issue is pressing within the tech industry.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorials/2013112273_edit10murray.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorials/2013112273_edit10murray.html)

Fortunately, voters in King County understood who the superior candidate was in this race.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: GMantis on November 04, 2010, 01:44:18 AM
I just got an email today saying the Republicans took control of both the NC House and Senate for the first time since Reconstruction. Not bad.
Alabama, too.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 04, 2010, 02:12:52 AM
You're not allowed to suggest that Republicans lost a race because they knew nothing about issues and the Democrat was smarter and more informed than them even if it's true, Ogre Mage. Apparently it makes you a hack.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2010, 05:43:06 AM
Yes, also keep in mind that Murray is one of the dumbest Senators (some blue avatars on here said it so it must be true), so there's no way she could be so studied on the issues. If Rossi doesn't win this race by more than 2%, it was stolen.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2010, 05:46:36 AM
Too early for a rough estimate of national popular vote? I rather doubt it's the R+15 crap that gallup was shovelling.

Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/live-blogging-election-night/#republicans-should-win-house-popular-vote-by-6-7-points) said it was about R+6.7 when he wrote that blog post Wednesday morning. It's probably shrunk a little as California has continued to come in (Dem's national margin always goes up a bit as California and provisional ballots in states around the country are counted). Obviously Rasmussen and Gallup were huge outliers.


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 04, 2010, 06:37:48 AM

Yeah, and Murray is increasing her lead in Washington with 71% reporting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 04, 2010, 07:01:12 AM
Excuse my rant, but I'm only 17 and I've really never cared about losing a race until now.

Don't worry, if you're a Crist supporter your opinion will swing wildly in the opposite direction pretty soon. ;)

But what I basically am saying is I don't think Crist is done politically, nationally most likely, but I could really see him running for Congress (FL-10) if Bill Young retires or for St.Pete Mayor (next election is in 2013).

That's probably the best he could do for a while. His name is badly tainted at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 04, 2010, 07:02:14 AM
cnn exit poll FL : Rubio wins 55 % of latinos (12 % of the voters).

Meek wins 76 % of the blacks voters (11 % of the voters).

And of course the actual numbers proved Crist had a chance.  Great job Meek.:P

 . . . assuming the same turnout and that at least 98 percent of the combined Crist + Meek voters would have still voted for Crist.

Rubio probably would have won bigger. He really massacred the opposition on the county map, way better then Martinez did.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 04, 2010, 07:41:31 AM
Here you go AJC :

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 04, 2010, 08:16:13 AM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.

Why do people make stupid predictions like that?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 04, 2010, 08:23:04 AM
Arizona GOP should really make Grijalva safer in future by plucking away more of Tucson from Arizona 8th and making that seat more Republican.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: StateBoiler on November 04, 2010, 08:25:11 AM
    I am ever so slightly amused by the Democrats pulling out every close race & retaining a majority of U.S. House seats in North Carolina of all places.

NC is the craziest Democrat-drawn gerrymander in the country. The state legislature is GOP now, so that advantage quite possibly wont last long.

Eastern North Carolina is f-ed up because they divide the whites and blacks each into their own district and the squiggly line out west is likewise a black-majority district. Those aren't going away because of the federal government has to approve our districts that create two majority-minority districts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 04, 2010, 08:33:50 AM
Arizona GOP should really make Grijalva safer in future by plucking away more of Tucson from Arizona 8th and making that seat more Republican.

Arizona has a non-partisan redistricting commission.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 04, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
I looked at Centre County, and percent turnout was down. 

http://www.centredaily.com/2010/11/04/2316455/county-shifts-toward-gop.html

The county, which is the home of Penn State, became Democratic in registration in 2008.  Toomey carried it by 51.6 to Sestak's 48.2.

http://www.co.centre.pa.us/elections/results/results.asp?FolderName=2010_general_election&FileName=2010_general_accumulated_results

This might be a collapse in Democratic turnout across the rest of the state, possibly coupled by an increase in Republican turnout.  Democratic turnout, especially black Democratic turnout, was up in Philadelphia.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 04, 2010, 08:46:06 AM
Arizona GOP should really make Grijalva safer in future by plucking away more of Tucson from Arizona 8th and making that seat more Republican.

Arizona has a non-partisan redistricting commission.

Ah, yeah I forgot about that. There's still an argument to be made for giving more of Tucson to Grijalva based on the population explosion north of the city, which falls in AZ-08. Of course, the new district will have to be created somewhere too. It's a state to keep an eye on.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Niemeyerite on November 04, 2010, 10:04:06 AM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.

Why do people make stupid predictions like that?

It's not a stupid prediction.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Franzl on November 04, 2010, 10:18:36 AM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.

Why do people make stupid predictions like that?

It's not a stupid prediction.

Bennet won this election by about 1% against an awful opponent....and even if that weren't the case, you can NEVER say a person has a seat for as long as he wants in Colorado.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 04, 2010, 10:22:01 AM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.

Why do people make stupid predictions like that?

People often predict what they wish to be so.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nclib on November 04, 2010, 10:27:16 AM
Which House races have yet to be called and which have been recently called (i.e. since Wed. AM)?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 04, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.

Why do people make stupid predictions like that?

It's not a stupid prediction.

Bennet won this election by about 1% against an awful opponent....and even if that weren't the case, you can NEVER say a person has a seat for as long as he wants in Colorado.

There is reasonably strong evidence after 2006-10 that Colorado has become a left-leaning state in general.  It's very different from VA or FL or OH, which all voted for Obama then had a pronounced swing back to the GOP.  There was no swing back in CO, indicating that the state as a whole has shifted left over the past 4 years. I think that is what this guy is getting at.  It's very premature to say that Bennet has the seat for life, but it's pretty logical to say that the Dems here have a better than 50% chance in any major CO race for the forseeable future.  I mean Hickenlooper broke 50% against two opponents for goodness sake!   


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 04, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
Im surprised the Bennet survived.  He has that seat for as long as he wants it after tonight.

Why do people make stupid predictions like that?

It's not a stupid prediction.

Given Colorado's history of swinging among parties and the fact that Bennet is not a personal institution, it's not a statement one can support.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rob in cal on November 04, 2010, 10:31:09 AM
I'm wondering about PA redistricting.  Right now GOP has maxed out at 8 seats from Central to Eastern PA, but a lot of them are swing seats that can be lost fairly easily in a bad GOP year like 2006.  What I'm wondering is whether it would make sense in redistricting to concede one of those seats to the Dems, if by creating one more Dem leaning seat it would make all or most of the other seats far more easy for the GOP to hold in a less favorable political season. It would be kind of like buying insurance so to speak.  You'd lose a little in the short term but when the you know what hits the fan, like 2006 again, you'd be in a better position.  Of course one question is, is this even possible to do this, or are the demographics to complicated to pull this off.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 04, 2010, 10:35:50 AM
They are very likely to axe PA 12. That was the feeling before these big wins and is certainly the feeling now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on November 04, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
So does anyone know when/if Fayette County, PA last voted for a Republican for U.S. Senate?

Possibly 1982; Heinz had huge victory, larger than Ted Kennedy's.  If not then, probably prior to WWII.


Specter carried Fayette in 1998.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 04, 2010, 10:47:27 AM
So does anyone know when/if Fayette County, PA last voted for a Republican for U.S. Senate?

Possibly 1982; Heinz had huge victory, larger than Ted Kennedy's.  If not then, probably prior to WWII.


Specter carried Fayette in 1998.

Indeed. The map is actually on this site.

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 10:51:50 AM
As far as I can tell, the last races to be called:

AZ-07:  We still have a bunch of absentees and provisionals here, but Grijalva (D) is ahead by 4,000 votes.  Doubt there's any change here.
AZ-08:  Ditto AZ-08, except Giffords (D) is ahead by 2,300 votes.  Doubt any change either.
CA-11:  McNerney (R) leads by 121 votes with all precincts in here.  Nothing will happen for a while here, as you have to wait for late absentees.  Still up in the air IMO.
CA-20:  Vidak (R) is ahead by 1823 votes here.  Much as in CA-11, we wait for late absentees, but I really doubt this changes.
IL-08:  With all precincts in, Walsh (R) leads by 553 votes.  He's declared victory, but Bean (D) is not conceding.  We wait for absentees and provisionals, though 553 votes is a margin that's unlikely to be taken out IMO.
KY-06:  Chandler leads by 600 votes here with all precincts in.  Barr has not conceded and may challenge the result.  He'll probably get a recanvass easily, but Kentucky has no provision for automatic recounts, so he'd have to go to court for one.  I doubt there's any change here.
NY-25:  Waiting on absentees and provisionals - Buerkle (R) is ahead by 659 votes with all precincts reporting.  Generally, in NY, there are very few absentees and provisions and they are rarely much different in number and result from the actual numbers, so this lead is probably enough.
TX-27:  Ortiz (D) has asked for a recount and you've got the watch for the "missing ballot" box suddenly appearing in this part of the world.  Farenthold is ahead by 799 votes and I don't think I've ever seen this margin overturned in a recount.  Missing ballot box, well...
VA-11:  Connolly (D) leads Fimian (R) by 920 votes.  Fimian has not decided to ask for a recount yet, though he'd be entitled to one.  We're not at that point yet, so give it time.
WA-02:  We wait for weeks here.

Presently, the total is 239 R, 186 D


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 10:58:17 AM
Folks, I've decided to move all discussion of the races left (as well as post-mortem to this thread).

Likely, though I want to talk to Joe about this, we'll combine the other threads with this one.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 04, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
I crunched some numbers. Miller would need 13,439 write-ins to be for someone other than Murkowski. This is over 6% of the total and I don't think I've ever seen over half a percent of votes be faux write-ins except in uncontested races. Really no way I can see Miller take it.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 04, 2010, 11:07:55 AM
Every write-in will be challenged in court if it's not clearly spelled LISA MURKOWSKI. I expect we'll be waiting on this one till the end of the month at least. I imagine Miller will be a real jackass about this and won't go down without a big fight.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 04, 2010, 11:25:14 AM
Murkowski is spelled like it sounds. Much tougher is my name for example, which is spelled Stephen. Do you know how often I see my name spelled Steven, and pronounced Stefan if someone sees my name in print?  This "can they spell" story has been really hyped out of proportion.  Moreover, irrespective of what anyone else does, the courts eventually are going to require that if the intent is clear, the vote will be counted, and will not tolerate gamesmanship. Is there someone with a similar name on the write in list?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 04, 2010, 11:29:30 AM
Yeah, Miller can't hope to overcome a 7-points lead with a few ill-spelled votes. I understand the media's cautiousness (it ain't done until it's done), but it's hard to see how he could win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 11:43:13 AM
Murkowski is spelled like it sounds. Much tougher is my name for example, which is spelled Stephen. Do you know how often I see my name spelled Steven, and pronounced Stefan if someone sees my name in print?  This "can they spell" story has been really hyped out of proportion.  Moreover, irrespective of what anyone else does, the courts eventually are going to require that if the intent is clear, the vote will be counted, and will not tolerate gamesmanship. Is there someone with a similar name on the write in list?

There's a Lisa M, as I recall.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on November 04, 2010, 11:53:17 AM
Every write-in will be challenged in court if it's not clearly spelled LISA MURKOWSKI. I expect we'll be waiting on this one till the end of the month at least. I imagine Miller will be a real jackass about this and won't go down without a big fight.

I don't know what the law on this is in Alaska, but when Shelley Sekula-Gibbs had to run a write-in campaign for Congress in TX-22, a bipartisan election commission accepted 28 pages of spellings of Sekula-Gibbs's name. Not 28 spellings, 28 PAGES of spellings. Generally as long as voter intent can be discerned it will be counted.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 12:12:49 PM
Murkowski is spelled like it sounds. Much tougher is my name for example, which is spelled Stephen. Do you know how often I see my name spelled Steven, and pronounced Stefan if someone sees my name in print?  This "can they spell" story has been really hyped out of proportion.  Moreover, irrespective of what anyone else does, the courts eventually are going to require that if the intent is clear, the vote will be counted, and will not tolerate gamesmanship. Is there someone with a similar name on the write in list?

There's a Lisa M, as I recall.

Official write-in list can be found here:

http://www.elections.alaska.gov/ci_pg_cl_2010_genr.php#uss

Most problematic:

Lisa M. Lackey
Daniel C. Piaskowski


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 04, 2010, 12:57:53 PM
There is reasonably strong evidence after 2006-10 that Colorado has become a left-leaning state in general.  It's very different from VA or FL or OH, which all voted for Obama then had a pronounced swing back to the GOP.  There was no swing back in CO, indicating that the state as a whole has shifted left over the past 4 years. I think that is what this guy is getting at.  It's very premature to say that Bennet has the seat for life, but it's pretty logical to say that the Dems here have a better than 50% chance in any major CO race for the forseeable future.  I mean Hickenlooper broke 50% against two opponents for goodness sake!   

There was no swing back in Colorado?   Colorado Republicans won back the state House, CO-03 and CO-04.  They came close to taking over a Senate seat with a weak candidate (who received a greater percentage of the vote than McCain), and would have had a chance to win back the governorship with someone other than Maes.

The Colorado GOP is not dead.  Bennet doesn't have his seat for life.  Colorado is not Massachusetts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 04, 2010, 01:14:14 PM
There is reasonably strong evidence after 2006-10 that Colorado has become a left-leaning state in general.  It's very different from VA or FL or OH, which all voted for Obama then had a pronounced swing back to the GOP.  There was no swing back in CO, indicating that the state as a whole has shifted left over the past 4 years. I think that is what this guy is getting at.  It's very premature to say that Bennet has the seat for life, but it's pretty logical to say that the Dems here have a better than 50% chance in any major CO race for the forseeable future.  I mean Hickenlooper broke 50% against two opponents for goodness sake!   

There was no swing back in Colorado?   Colorado Republicans won back the state House, CO-03 and CO-04.  They came close to taking over a Senate seat with a weak candidate (who received a greater percentage of the vote than McCain), and would have had a chance to win back the governorship with someone other than Maes.

The Colorado GOP is not dead.  Bennet doesn't have his seat for life.  Colorado is not Massachusetts.

After Angle, now it's Buck's time to become a "weak candidate".
Weren't you guys defending them until a couple of days ago?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 04, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
After Angle, now it's Buck's time to become a "weak candidate".
Weren't you guys defending them until a couple of days ago?

I will still defend Angle and Buck as stronger than their primary opponents.  Lowden would have lost, too - she couldn't even beat Angle in the primary, and was particularly gaffe-prone.  Norton couldn't beat Buck.  Castle in Delaware didn't take his primary seriously - and lost.  Had he done the same in the general, he would have lost, too. 

If you can't get out of the primary, you're probably not going to do so well in the general election, anyway. 

The fact is that Colorado is still a swing state.  No Colorado Senator is set for life - and that's a good thing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 04, 2010, 02:22:08 PM
So does anyone know when/if Fayette County, PA last voted for a Republican for U.S. Senate?

Possibly 1982; Heinz had huge victory, larger than Ted Kennedy's.  If not then, probably prior to WWII.


Specter carried Fayette in 1998.

Ah, I forgot 1998.  His opponent was from neighboring Somerset.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 04, 2010, 02:43:29 PM
The Fresno Bee seems to think that Costa will win CA-20 when absentees and provos are counted.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/11/03/2145741/vidak-leads-race-for-congress.html


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: RI on November 04, 2010, 03:03:29 PM
I don't know if anyone saw, but Larsen now has a ~500 vote lead up in WA-02. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 04, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
The Fresno Bee seems to think that Costa will win CA-20 when absentees and provos are counted.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/11/03/2145741/vidak-leads-race-for-congress.html

If there are really "tens of thousands" abseentes and provos in CA-20 that would explain the seemingly absymal turnout.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 04, 2010, 04:01:45 PM
I want my money back!

I wonder how many heart attacks Phil suffered from while they counted this though?

Oh, if you guys only knew.  ;)

There was a period (I think it was from 9:45 - 10:30) where I thought it was over or close to being finished for Toomey but that slow comeback led to some pretty interesting reactions.  :P

The best was racing over to the Board of Elections when we thought it was going to a recount. I got out of my car with some others and as I'm running across the street towards the building, I found out that Sestak called Toomey to concede and that the AP called the race for Toomey.

I was initially very calm, reassuring people at the party that the early numbers were going to favor Sestak by a very wide margin. Things kept getting worse and I'm thinking to myself, "This isn't happening, is it?" Then the comeback. Ironic that the final comeback was for the guy that lead in polling almost the entire race.  ;)

It might have been a stressful night but it was exciting. I can appreciate that.

I really didn't notice any last minute "comeback". From my perspective (following it entirely from the PA SOS site) Toomey was a rocket ship, going from 27% to 51%. It might have slowed during that period in which you mentioned but in several counties that I knew Toomey would win, Sestak would start out with a 2-1 lead or even in the mid 70's, then collapse, as Republican precincts came in. It was epic.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: CJK on November 04, 2010, 04:45:12 PM
Vote for President in 2008:

Obama 45

McCain 45

I'm think most of the other 10% actually voted for McCain and just can't remember him.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/polls/#val=USH00p2 (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/polls/#val=USH00p2)

 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on November 04, 2010, 04:56:26 PM
I don't know if anyone saw, but Larsen now has a ~500 vote lead up in WA-02. :)

And 40% or so of the Bellingham vote hasn't come in.  :)  I don't know about Everett, Mt. Vernon, or Marrysville yet, but it looks good for Larsen so far. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 04, 2010, 05:04:30 PM
Here are the Alaska maps of the winner by State House District, with Anchorage and Fairbanks insets.  All data is preliminary, with at least some early vote totals in the HDs where early voting is available, but no absentees.  Miller is in blue, "Write-in" green and McAdams red:

Statewide:
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Anchorage/Mat-Su close-up:
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Fairbanks close-up:
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Basically, Democrat McAdams won the urban Juneau district (one of the most Democratic-leaning in the state), Downtown Anchorage and, due to a Miller-Murkowski split, the outer Kenai Peninsula HD-35.  Miller cleaned up in the Mat-Su exurbs of Anchorage and the other two main Kenai HDs, and narrowly lead "Write-in" in parts of Fairbanks.  "Write-in" - most likely Murkowski - won the rest, particularly bush HDs 37-40, where she took 60-70% of the vote.  

HD-02 in the Southeast was close, and might flip to McAdams if only a handful of write-ins are not for Murkowski or otherwise disqualified.  HD-17 in Eagle River was also close, between "Write In" and Miller.  A few HDs in the Fairbanks area were also close.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 04, 2010, 05:10:18 PM
Just spotted this...

TN-4: DesJarlais (R) 57.1, Davis* (D) 38.6
AL-5: Brooks (R) 57.9, Raby (D) 42.1

lolfail


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: RI on November 04, 2010, 05:14:09 PM
HD-02 in the Southeast was close, and might flip to McAdams if only a handful of write-ins are not for Murkowski or otherwise disqualified.

HD-02 is McAdams's home district and contains Sitka. I rather hope he wins it in the end.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 04, 2010, 05:18:17 PM
HD-02 in the Southeast was close, and might flip to McAdams if only a handful of write-ins are not for Murkowski or otherwise disqualified.

HD-02 is McAdams's home district and contains Sitka. I rather hope he wins it in the end.

McAdams cleaned up in Sitka but lost Republican-leaning Petersburg and Wrangell.

I can map HDs 01-32 at the precinct level when I get a chance.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 04, 2010, 05:24:33 PM
so what is the latest GOP net gains in the House?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: RI on November 04, 2010, 05:28:39 PM
so what is the latest GOP net gains in the House?

NYTimes has it at +60 with 10 still out, of which the Republicans currently lead in four. I've heard one of those could flip to the Dems though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 04, 2010, 05:34:49 PM
TX-27 Republican lead of 799
NY-25 Republican lead of 659
IL-08 Republican lead of 553

Those three will be recounted but are expected to hold from what I'm hearing. CA-20 Republican lead is supposed to disappear when they count provos. KY-06, VA-11 and CA-11 will be recounted with Dems in lead, and are all expected to hold although CA-11 is just 121 votes so who knows. WA-02 is a mystery with 29% uncounted.

Also, that thug Bob Etheridge is screaming recount in NC-02, race that was called Republican by the media. It's a 1600 votes lead and should hold.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 04, 2010, 06:08:24 PM
Buck wasn't really an awful candidate. He had a few issues, for sure, but he put out a more respectable presentation than most of the other teabaggers.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 04, 2010, 06:12:09 PM
So the Tear Party won what? Paul? Buck looks to be in trouble. Angle, O'Donnell lost. Rubio won, but he's not really been a crazy tea partier.

Toomey?

Toomey is a Club for Growther.


Before Angle was a Tea Party candidate, she was a C4G candidate as well.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 04, 2010, 06:17:42 PM
TBH I'm not sure why C4G initially decided to enter Nevada - Lowden should have earned a passing grade on all the issues they care about and even then Tarkanian was the most obvious "more conservative" candidate.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Hash on November 04, 2010, 06:20:35 PM
Did Joe Miller win Wasilla?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 5280 on November 04, 2010, 06:21:39 PM
CO will never be like MA, you have all the surrounding neighbor states which are dark/bright red in politics. It will always be a competitive state unless you get people from the coasts keep moving here.  The fact the REPs won CO-3 and CO-4 proves my point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: RI on November 04, 2010, 06:24:48 PM

Yes, both precincts.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 04, 2010, 06:37:21 PM
Part of the problem for the CO GOP was that Obama still had somewhat decent approvals among people who voted in CO. 48%-51% as compared to 45%-54% nationally.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 04, 2010, 06:45:00 PM

With over 50% of the vote.

In fact, Miller won every precinct in Mat-Su borough except City of Palmer No. 1 and Talkeetna, which tend to skew more Democratic than the rest of the borough.  "Write-in" won Palmer No. 1.  McAdams won hippie Talkeetna.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ogre Mage on November 04, 2010, 06:49:49 PM
Nov. 4th update on the WA-SEN numbers:

Quote
Sen. Patty Murray pulled further ahead in King County this afternoon, taking 68 percent - or 47,589 - of the nearly 70,000 votes counted in the state's most populous county on Thursday.

That gives Murray a 51.5 to 48.5 lead over Republican Dino Rossi statewide as counties are beginning to report new vote counts.

The trend in King County - home to more than 2 out of 5 of the votes statewide that remain to be counted - is looking increasingly bad for Rossi. In votes counted on Wednesday in King County, Murray picked up about 66 percent, showing that later-arriving ballots broke increasingly for the 18-year incumbent.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2013349339_murrays_lead_widens_on_new_vot.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2013349339_murrays_lead_widens_on_new_vot.html)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: RI on November 04, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
Nov. 4th update on the WA-SEN numbers:

Quote
Sen. Patty Murray pulled further ahead in King County this afternoon, taking 68 percent - or 47,589 - of the nearly 70,000 votes counted in the state's most populous county on Thursday.

That gives Murray a 51.5 to 48.5 lead over Republican Dino Rossi statewide as counties are beginning to report new vote counts.

The trend in King County - home to more than 2 out of 5 of the votes statewide that remain to be counted - is looking increasingly bad for Rossi. In votes counted on Wednesday in King County, Murray picked up about 66 percent, showing that later-arriving ballots broke increasingly for the 18-year incumbent.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2013349339_murrays_lead_widens_on_new_vot.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2013349339_murrays_lead_widens_on_new_vot.html)


It's over, but it's been that way for a bit now.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: homelycooking on November 04, 2010, 07:12:39 PM
Is Himes' seat in doubt again after the CT mess?

Unless Debicella won a couple of miserably poor black and Hispanic neighborhoods in Bridgeport, no.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 04, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
Given what's come in thus far, Murray is going to finish the day above 51%.

Nearly 45% of remaining ballots are from King County, which Murray won 67-33 today.

Time for Rossi to concede.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nhmagic on November 04, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
Earlier I said there were about 30000 ballots left in Pima County.  Actually the amount of ballots left is somewhere around 47,000 (about 32000 early voting ballots and 15000 provisional ballots).  Thats why they arent calling AZ7 or 8 yet.  They have until November 12th to count all of those ballots.  Most of these votes will come from the more populous area of Pima county which is AZ8.  Also, even though Pima and early ballots ran better for Giffords on election night, it could be that she already got the bulk of what she was going to get.

Current Totals:
AZ7
Grijalva: 49.39% / McClung: 44.94%, McClung Deficit 5980 votes
AZ8
Giffords: 48.58% / Kelly: 47.41%, Kelly Deficit 3055

Probably not doable for McClung, but definitely still doable for Kelly.  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on November 04, 2010, 07:25:57 PM
The Seattle Times has officially called the race for Murray!   :D :D :D :D :D



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013349573_senate05m.html


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 04, 2010, 07:54:14 PM
Anyone else surprised that Ayotte broke 60% and carried every one of NH's counties?  I certainly didn't see that coming.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
Given what's come in thus far, Murray is going to finish the day above 51%.

Nearly 45% of remaining ballots are from King County, which Murray won 67-33 today.

Time for Rossi to concede.

lolrossi


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 04, 2010, 08:10:38 PM
Notes on Virginia:

VA-01 - Nothing exciting here. Ball won the very northwestern and southeastern tips of the district (PW County and Hampton), narrowly carried Williamsburg, and lost everywhere else.
VA-02 - This is what happens when you spend two years pretending not to be a Democrat. Rigell even beat Nye in Norfolk.
VA-03 - I was wondering if Chuck Smith was going to break the record for a Republican running against Bobby Scott (31% in 2004, when one-term African-American Del. Winsome Sears ran against him). No dice, he's at 27%.
VA-04 - Surprisingly weak showing by Forbes; He only got 60% in 2008, but that was with Obama narrowly carrying the district and against a joke opponent. I was expecting him to get near 70% this time. I'm guessing the Republicans take Petersburg out of the district in redistricting.
VA-05 - Perriello fought valiantly, and came within 4% of Hurt. Not bad, considering he had been written off by every pundit pretty much since he was elected.
VA-06 - Nothing to see here.
VA-07 - Funnily enough, this was Cantor's slimmest margin since he was elected, though it's partially due to the fact that a third party teabagger took 6.5%.
VA-08 - Yeah, Arlington, Alexandria and Falls Church are never going to dip below 60% for a Democrat.
VA-09 - Poor Rick Boucher. I could see this coming from the results of 2008 and 2009, but I still thought he could pull off one more term.
VA-10 - Wolf is entrenched. Barnett did surprisingly well in Manassas Park; not sure what to make of that, except that turnout was low there.
VA-11 - In the battle of Fairfax vs. Prince William, Fairfax wins. Connolly will probably get a safe seat in redistricting in order to shore up VA-10 once Wolf retires.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2010, 08:12:29 PM
Anyone else surprised that Ayotte broke 60% and carried every one of NH's counties?  I certainly didn't see that coming.

Yeah, though of all the states where such a thing would happen, NH is close to the top of the list. They swing often and hard.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 04, 2010, 08:19:10 PM
AP called AZ-07 for Grijalva.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 04, 2010, 08:21:06 PM
The Seattle Times has officially called the race for Murray!   :D :D :D :D :D



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013349573_senate05m.html

The AP has as well.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 04, 2010, 08:23:04 PM
Rossi has conceded.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ogre Mage on November 04, 2010, 08:27:07 PM
The Seattle Times has officially called the race for Murray!   :D :D :D :D :D



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013349573_senate05m.html

The AP has as well.

Dino Rossi has conceded:

http://www.publicola.net/2010/11/04/rossi-concedes/ (http://www.publicola.net/2010/11/04/rossi-concedes/)

With Boxer, Murray, Wyden, Brown and Kitzhaber's victories, the Democrats now control all the U.S. Senate seats and governorships on the west coast.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nhmagic on November 04, 2010, 08:29:50 PM
That means the bulk of the ballots left to count are in AZ8.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 09:09:24 PM
The individual threads have been put together and cleaned up a little.

Please continue the discussion.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ?????????? on November 04, 2010, 09:23:24 PM
The individual threads have been put together and cleaned up a little.

Please continue the discussion.

Sam, not to offend you but this thread is now one big messy CF.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 04, 2010, 09:32:52 PM
Larsen's lead in WA-02 has grown to 1,451 with all reporting done for the day. Yesterday he lead by 397. And San Juan County - which Larsen won 65-35 - didn't report today.

In short: Looks like Larsen's going to hold on.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 04, 2010, 09:40:43 PM
Sam Spade, do you have any idea what percentage the Pubbies got of the Hispanic vote in TX-23 and TX-27?  I would love to see a precinct map of TX-23 in Bexar County.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 04, 2010, 09:46:05 PM
Anyone else surprised that Ayotte broke 60% and carried every one of NH's counties?  I certainly didn't see that coming.

Almost shocking really. Hodes in the debate I saw was presentable.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 04, 2010, 09:47:46 PM
Earlier I said there were about 30000 ballots left in Pima County.  Actually the amount of ballots left is somewhere around 47,000 (about 32000 early voting ballots and 15000 provisional ballots).  Thats why they arent calling AZ7 or 8 yet.  They have until November 12th to count all of those ballots.  Most of these votes will come from the more populous area of Pima county which is AZ8.  Also, even though Pima and early ballots ran better for Giffords on election night, it could be that she already got the bulk of what she was going to get.

Current Totals:
AZ7
Grijalva: 49.39% / McClung: 44.94%, McClung Deficit 5980 votes
AZ8
Giffords: 48.58% / Kelly: 47.41%, Kelly Deficit 3055

Probably not doable for McClung, but definitely still doable for Kelly.  

Provisionals tend to have a decided Dem lean.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ucscgaldamez on November 04, 2010, 09:54:26 PM
Every thread that I have wanted to post has been linked to other threads! At this rate, I will never get my own thread. heck, even this post may be deleted.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 10:04:21 PM
Sam Spade, do you have any idea what percentage the Pubbies got of the Hispanic vote in TX-23 and TX-27?  I would love to see a precinct map of TX-23 in Bexar County.

Won't know now.  Not until much later.

With Perry, there wasn't much change from 2008 (35%).  At the lower statewide levels (where the GOP got 60%-64% roughly), it was probably more like 40% (maybe Abbott (64%) got closer to 45%). 

FWIW, the exit poll said Perry got 38% and the movements in Hispanic areas not within counties was minimal from 2008 or between the statewide races.  I'd have to look precinct-by-precinct at the suburban/urban Hispanics.

The big shift was in suburban Texas - other statewide Republicans ran at Bush 2004 levels, whereas Perry ran at 2008 levels.

In rural east and central Texas (Southern-settled areas), everyone ran the same, at all levels of the ballot.  Those numbers were virtually identical to 2008.  In the German rural areas, Perry ran at 2008 levels, the other candidates ran at 2004 levels.

This is a gross generalization, but it's pretty accurate.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 04, 2010, 10:08:26 PM
It is amazing the GOP does that well with Hispanics in Texas. That deserves some sort of study, as to why. They do as well in Arizona (at least some candidates do), but close to half the Hispanics in AZ are evangelical Protestants.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 10:10:46 PM
It is amazing the GOP does that well with Hispanics in Texas. That deserves some sort of study, as to why. They do as well in Arizona (at least some candidates do), but close to half the Hispanics in AZ are evangelical Protestants.

Before Bush, Texas Hispanics were the most Democratic in the nation.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nhmagic on November 04, 2010, 10:21:41 PM
Earlier I said there were about 30000 ballots left in Pima County.  Actually the amount of ballots left is somewhere around 47,000 (about 32000 early voting ballots and 15000 provisional ballots).  Thats why they arent calling AZ7 or 8 yet.  They have until November 12th to count all of those ballots.  Most of these votes will come from the more populous area of Pima county which is AZ8.  Also, even though Pima and early ballots ran better for Giffords on election night, it could be that she already got the bulk of what she was going to get.

Current Totals:
AZ7
Grijalva: 49.39% / McClung: 44.94%, McClung Deficit 5980 votes
AZ8
Giffords: 48.58% / Kelly: 47.41%, Kelly Deficit 3055

Probably not doable for McClung, but definitely still doable for Kelly.  

Provisionals tend to have a decided Dem lean.
Yeah thats true, though in that particular district (border) I can see a lot of them being thrown out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 04, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
Anyone else surprised that Ayotte broke 60% and carried every one of NH's counties?  I certainly didn't see that coming.

Almost shocking really. Hodes in the debate I saw was presentable.

NH does those types of wild swings (see 2006).  Actually, with that result, it's more surprising that Lynch didn't lose.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 05, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
It is amazing the GOP does that well with Hispanics in Texas. That deserves some sort of study, as to why. They do as well in Arizona (at least some candidates do), but close to half the Hispanics in AZ are evangelical Protestants.

Before Bush, Texas Hispanics were the most Democratic in the nation.

That is an interesting thought - that Bush's popularity with Hispanics relatively speaking, had staying power at least in Texas for subsequent GOP candidates.

Do we have any idea what the percentage of voters in TX-23 and TX-27 were Hispanic?  If we knew that, and assuming (I assume a reasonable assumption) that 75% of the Anglo voters in these two CD's voted for the GOP candidate (would you pick another percentage for Anglos?), we could impute the percentage of the GOP take of Hispanic voters this time for each of these two CD's.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 07:25:47 AM
It is amazing the GOP does that well with Hispanics in Texas. That deserves some sort of study, as to why. They do as well in Arizona (at least some candidates do), but close to half the Hispanics in AZ are evangelical Protestants.

Before Bush, Texas Hispanics were the most Democratic in the nation.

That is an interesting thought - that Bush's popularity with Hispanics relatively speaking, had staying power at least in Texas for subsequent GOP candidates.

Do we have any idea what the percentage of voters in TX-23 and TX-27 were Hispanic?  If we knew that, and assuming (I assume a reasonable assumption) that 75% of the Anglo voters in these two CD's voted for the GOP candidate (would you pick another percentage for Anglos?), we could impute the percentage of the GOP take of Hispanic voters this time for each of these two CD's.

75% is a fair call.  Though based on what I've been seeing in other results, it may be closer to 80% (remember that Perry got 69% of whites according to exit poll and Farenthold ran a couple of points better than his percentages - with the further note that a good chunk of the whites who vote Dem live in the major urban areas).

Adults-wise, TX-23 is 30.0% White, 65.1% Hispanic (there's about 3% blacks there).  TX-27 is 27.6% White, 68.1% Hispanic (with 3% blacks also).


Title: Re: Senate races yet to be called
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 05, 2010, 07:28:31 AM
Washington has been called for Murray with 80% reporting. I'm still not 100% convinced about this one, but Rossi would need to win the remaining vote by over 55% to win the race.


Title: House races yet to be called
Post by: minionofmidas on November 05, 2010, 07:44:17 AM
Using NYT as my source, they are

NY-25 (Republican, Ann Marie Buerkle, ahead)
IL-8 (Republican, Joe Walsh, ahead)
VA-11 (Democrat, Gerald Connolly, ahead)
KY-6 (Democrat, Ben Chandler, ahead)
TX-27 (Republican, Blake Farenthold, ahead)
AZ-8 (Democrat, Gabrielle Giffords, ahead)
WA-2 (Democrat, Rick Larsen, ahead)
CA-11 (Democrat, Jerry McNerney, ahead)
CA-20 (Republican, Andy Vidak, ahead)

Margins vary - CA-20 looks eminently callable. But yeah, I suggest we have a single thread to cover the counting aftermath.


Title: Re: House races yet to be called
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 07:52:07 AM
Yes, which is where this is going.   :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on November 05, 2010, 08:31:21 AM
I don't get why AZ-8, VA-11, KY-6, and NY-25 haven't been called yet.  IL-8 is probably going to be a Republican pickup, but if Bean wants a recount (and gains a significant number of votes through that) and the Cook County Machine likes her enough to "find missing ballot boxes" as they say in Southern Texas, this could theoretically be a Democratic hold, but probably not.  Ortiz can't be counted out quite yet for the same reasons (though he has a better shot than Bean), but that one will also likely be a Republican pickup.  The consensus seems to be that Larson is in good shape (given what's still out).  CA-11 could still conceivably go either way, but McNerney will probably win.  Although the numbers seem to spell doom for Costa, I keep hearing persistent reports that there were enough provisional/absentee ballots (for some reason) that he is still expected to win (or at least as a real shot), perhaps someone more familiar with this race can explain the situation in CA-20 (or give a better account of Costa's chances).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nhmagic on November 05, 2010, 09:13:58 AM
I don't get why AZ-8, VA-11, KY-6, and NY-25 haven't been called yet.  IL-8 is probably going to be a Republican pickup, but if Bean wants a recount (and gains a significant number of votes through that) and the Cook County Machine likes her enough to "find missing ballot boxes" as they say in Southern Texas, this could theoretically be a Democratic hold, but probably not.  Ortiz can't be counted out quite yet for the same reasons (though he has a better shot than Bean), but that one will also likely be a Republican pickup.  The consensus seems to be that Larson is in good shape (given what's still out).  CA-11 could still conceivably go either way, but McNerney will probably win.  Although the numbers seem to spell doom for Costa, I keep hearing persistent reports that there were enough provisional/absentee ballots (for some reason) that he is still expected to win (or at least as a real shot), perhaps someone more familiar with this race can explain the situation in CA-20 (or give a better account of Costa's chances).
AZ8 - see outstanding ballot analysis above...


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rob in cal on November 05, 2010, 11:02:38 AM
Spent a little time on phillyelections.com and found some fascinating stats from the bluest sections of Philadelphia.  Ward 10 gave Sestak 9802 votes and Toomey, wait for it, 107 votes, Onorato 9660, Corbett 157.  Ward 10 precinct 7  was 321-1, 320-1, and a clean sweep of 320-0 for Chakkah Fattah.  The biggest total shutout  for Sen and Gov races was ward
11 precinct 7, 245-0 for Sestak, and 242-0 for Onorato.   
I wonder where the biggest (with over, say, 50 votes) precinct for the GOP in the US was?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 05, 2010, 11:21:44 AM
It is amazing the GOP does that well with Hispanics in Texas. That deserves some sort of study, as to why. They do as well in Arizona (at least some candidates do), but close to half the Hispanics in AZ are evangelical Protestants.

Before Bush, Texas Hispanics were the most Democratic in the nation.

That is an interesting thought - that Bush's popularity with Hispanics relatively speaking, had staying power at least in Texas for subsequent GOP candidates.

Do we have any idea what the percentage of voters in TX-23 and TX-27 were Hispanic?  If we knew that, and assuming (I assume a reasonable assumption) that 75% of the Anglo voters in these two CD's voted for the GOP candidate (would you pick another percentage for Anglos?), we could impute the percentage of the GOP take of Hispanic voters this time for each of these two CD's.

75% is a fair call.  Though based on what I've been seeing in other results, it may be closer to 80% (remember that Perry got 69% of whites according to exit poll and Farenthold ran a couple of points better than his percentages - with the further note that a good chunk of the whites who vote Dem live in the major urban areas).

Adults-wise, TX-23 is 30.0% White, 65.1% Hispanic (there's about 3% blacks there).  TX-27 is 27.6% White, 68.1% Hispanic (with 3% blacks also).

It looks to me that no more than about 25%-30% of the Hispanics in TX-23 voted for the Pubbie. I don't think anymore than 40% of the voters in the district were Hispanic, based an Anglo turnout probably being about 50%, black turnout say 40%, and Hispanic turnout around 25% or something. If the Hispanic turnout is higher than 25%, than the GOP percentage goes down from 25%. It appears that about 55% of the registered voters are Hispanic, as best as I can tell.

              % vote  % GOP   % GOP of total vote
Anglo       0.56         0.75           0.42
Hispanic   0.40         0.25           0.10
Black       0.04         0.10         0.004
                                               0.524


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 05, 2010, 12:37:05 PM
Sam Spade was right - a mysterious bag was found in TX-27 but only 7 votes for Ortiz in it. Farenthold +792.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 05, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Sam Spade was right - a mysterious bag was found in TX-27 but only 7 votes for Ortiz in it. Farenthold +792.

Damnit, Valley Democrats. You're supposed to be better than this.


Title: Re: House races yet to be called
Post by: minionofmidas on November 05, 2010, 02:34:24 PM
Yes, which is where this is going.   :)
I meant "only the aftermath". >:( (Nah, seriously. He expect me to even read an 80 page thread that I haven't read yet? The only reason I came here was my thread was missing and this one was my best bet as to where it might have gone.)


Title: Re: House races yet to be called
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 05, 2010, 02:37:26 PM
Yes, which is where this is going.   :)
I meant "only the aftermath". >:( (Nah, seriously. He expect me to even read an 80 page thread that I haven't read yet? The only reason I came here was my thread was missing and this one was my best bet as to where it might have gone.)

     Probably you are supposed to pretend the first 80 or so pages don't exist. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 05, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
I mean, obviously the discussion I was missing and looking for was in this thread, and my post belongs with it. I was merely explaining myself in starting it. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 05, 2010, 03:37:02 PM
Well CA-11 appears to have been inspired by the Senate race in Washington, and the late absentees so far are not being kind to the Pubble Harmer. What we have is Dem creep. Unless Harmer can volley back with Pubbie creep of a slightly higher magnitude that that reflected below in the County he is leading in, San Joaquin, and by a hair in Contra Costa, Harmer is going the way of Rossi.

   Alameda               
57.32%   15688   16086   398   59.49%      
42.68%   11679   11950   271   40.51%      
14.65%   27367   28036   669   18.98%   4.33%   Dem improvement
                  
   Santa Clara               
54.04%   5285   6912   1627   55.45%      
45.96%   4495   5802   1307   44.55%      
8.08%   9780   12714   2934   10.91%   2.83%   Dem improvement



Just so the numbers are up for later comparison, the totals from yesterday with no new numbers yet from today for Contra Costa and San Joaquin are:

                        San Joaquin      Contra Costa
Harmer             45,958                19,871
McNerney         41,958                19,539

And once we get the above two counties in, we can see whether McNerney's lead from yesterday of 121, expands or contracts.

If Harmer loses by the way, my "perfect" prediction of a GOP gain of 63 seats is probably going to go down the toilet.  It does not look too good at the moment. :(

Addendum

Contra Costa caused another small yardage loss for Harmer, but the key play is the next one from San Joaquin, of which we await.

McNerney       49.63%   23,718   19,539   4,179   49.88%      
Harmer           50.37%   24,070   19,871   4,199   50.12%      
                      -0.74%    47,788   39,410   8,378    -0.24%   0.50% Dem Improvement





Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 05, 2010, 05:30:19 PM
Apparently (http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/252612/under-surveying-cell-phone-users-hispanics-cause-skewed-polls-elizabeth-crum), Mason Dixon bit the dust in Nevada with its polls because  they were done in by the cell phone and Hispanics don't like to be grilled by gringos in English as to how they will vote, phenomenon.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Rowan on November 05, 2010, 06:10:38 PM
NY-01 isn't over yet:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/7970/ny01-altschuler-says-he-has-the-lead-after-recanvass


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 06:38:25 PM
Apparently (http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/252612/under-surveying-cell-phone-users-hispanics-cause-skewed-polls-elizabeth-crum), Mason Dixon bit the dust in Nevada with its polls because  they were done in by the cell phone and Hispanics don't like to be grilled by gringos in English as to how they will vote, phenomenon.



One would think M-D knows how to handle Hispanics through its many years of Florida polling, but who knows on that front.  But this is now 2 elections in a row and in 2004, there were more minor issues.

The cell phone thingy remains quite unproven - look at the SUSA test polls in California and Oregon.  California was dead-on, but most people missed that landline only callers had the same result as the final numbers (I didn't).  Oregon was a cluster though and completely wrong (made more wrong by the cell phone addition).

Anyway, something happened.  Nevada, though, is a strange state in many respects.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 07:49:58 PM
NY-01 isn't over yet:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/7970/ny01-altschuler-says-he-has-the-lead-after-recanvass

Ughhhhhhhh


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 05, 2010, 07:51:59 PM
NY-01 isn't over yet:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/7970/ny01-altschuler-says-he-has-the-lead-after-recanvass

Ughhhhhhhh

Having read the article, it looks pretty over to me. The ball didn't move much.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
NY-01 isn't over yet:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/7970/ny01-altschuler-says-he-has-the-lead-after-recanvass

Ughhhhhhhh

Having read the article, it looks pretty over to me. The ball didn't move much.

Over, meaning that Bishop lost?  Because that's what it looks like.

Leaving NY with a 7 seat loss?  Ouch, especially with such domination by Democrats at the statewide and statewide federal level


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 05, 2010, 08:11:06 PM
NY-01 isn't over yet:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/7970/ny01-altschuler-says-he-has-the-lead-after-recanvass

Ughhhhhhhh

Having read the article, it looks pretty over to me. The ball didn't move much.

Over, meaning that Bishop lost?  Because that's what it looks like.

Leaving NY with a 7 seat loss?  Ouch, especially with such domination by Democrats at the statewide and statewide federal level

     As I said elsewhere, Tuesday mostly wasn't that bad for the Democrats in their stronghold states. Losing so many House seats in New York is quite shocking.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 09:04:03 PM
NY-01 isn't over yet:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/7970/ny01-altschuler-says-he-has-the-lead-after-recanvass

Ughhhhhhhh

Having read the article, it looks pretty over to me. The ball didn't move much.

Over, meaning that Bishop lost?  Because that's what it looks like.

Leaving NY with a 7 seat loss?  Ouch, especially with such domination by Democrats at the statewide and statewide federal level

     As I said elsewhere, Tuesday mostly wasn't that bad for the Democrats in their stronghold states. Losing so many House seats in New York is quite shocking.

No, it isn't.  Think about why.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 09:17:50 PM
7 is fairly surprising imo.  I expected Maffei, McMahon, Bishop, and Murphy to win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 05, 2010, 09:36:57 PM
AP called it for Giffords. Vidak's lead is down to 1,091 votes. McNerney's lead is at 441. Larsen's has expanded to 3,872.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
7 is fairly surprising imo.  I expected Maffei, McMahon, Bishop, and Murphy to win.

I smelled that Murphy was gone, Arcuri surprised me more b/c he appeared to have regained strength, but that was just a mirage.

As for Bishop, I wondered.  Considering the rest of the Long Island CDs, it was a bit surprising that it didn't fall, and now it probably will.

McMahon was surprising for mentioned earlier - pretty much the only real "surprise" to me Tuesday.  Maffei, I had that one seriously on the radar, as you know (but even IL-8 and TX-27 was on my radar).

The reason why I say that it wasn't surprising is because these are areas that would be real problems in a GOP wave - they have GOP history which is far from being completely dead (yet).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 05, 2010, 09:41:51 PM
Talking of suspecting that Bishop might be in trouble, can the predictions thread be unlocked so we can all laugh at ourselves?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
7 is fairly surprising imo.  I expected Maffei, McMahon, Bishop, and Murphy to win.

I smelled that Murphy was gone, Arcuri surprised me more b/c he appeared to have regained strength, but that was just a mirage.

As for Bishop, I wondered.  Considering the rest of the Long Island CDs, it was a bit surprising that it didn't fall, and now it probably will.

McMahon was surprising for mentioned earlier - pretty much the only real "surprise" to me Tuesday.  Maffei, I had that one seriously on the radar, as you know (but even IL-8 and TX-27 was on my radar).

The reason why I say that it wasn't surprising is because these are areas that would be real problems in a GOP wave - they have GOP history which is far from being completely dead (yet).

I mean, Murphy was obviously the most obvious of the five.  And Arcuri, whom I had written off completely initially, did impress me towards the end and I thought he was going to pull it out too.  I haven't looked at the Gillibrand and Cuomo maps, how did they do in these seven flipped districts? I wonder how Gillibrand did in NY-20 especially

At least CA's incumbent-gerrymandering skills are unquestionable.  We've had like three wave elections in different directions in a state with 50something congressmen, and about one seat change hands each time?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 05, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
AP called it for Giffords. Vidak's lead is down to 1,091 votes. McNerney's lead is at 441. Larsen's has expanded to 3,872.

The Vidak erosion needs to be balanced against the fact that it was all (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/county/#CAH20p1) a Fresno county dump, and Vidak's trump card if he has one is Kings County. (Look at the time stamps on the County; the only recent one is Fresno.)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 05, 2010, 09:52:22 PM
There appears to be almost nothing left from Kings, all that's left are the two Costa counties. (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/2010-election-information/november-2010/total-unprocessed-ballots.pdf)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 09:53:22 PM
Talking of suspecting that Bishop might be in trouble, can the predictions thread be unlocked so we can all laugh at ourselves?

Go ahead - it's open now


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
What surprises me about NY-1 & NY-13 is the GOP's success despite incredibly divisive primaries.  Like more than NY-23 divisive but without the Conservative Party split on election day.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 05, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 10:00:44 PM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.

Not definite, but he's in a better place than Bishop is as of now

He's going to expand the Jewish-Republican caucus in all of Congress to a grand total of two then, right?  I'm pretty sure that's unimpressive considering their large Congressional gains and their gains into other minority groups.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 10:01:46 PM
What surprises me about NY-1 & NY-13 is the GOP's success despite incredibly divisive primaries.  Like more than NY-23 divisive but without the Conservative Party split on election day.

Goes to show you how much more important election day splits are, as opposed to primary splits.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 10:03:58 PM
What surprises me about NY-1 & NY-13 is the GOP's success despite incredibly divisive primaries.  Like more than NY-23 divisive but without the Conservative Party split on election day.

Goes to show you how much more important election day splits are, as opposed to primary splits.

Yeah...but NY-13 had a meltdown.   Conservative Party pitted against Conservative Party, Hasidic groups in Brooklyn goin' against each other, Conservative Borough President behind the Democrat, crazy Republican from the past emerging to threaten to claim the nomination in a coup.... and it all mattered less than a ballot line where one candidate withdraw and endorsed the major party candidate.

It's not like the Republican who won in NY-23 was a Scozzafava


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 05, 2010, 10:07:19 PM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.

Not definite, but he's in a better place than Bishop is as of now

He's going to expand the Jewish-Republican caucus in all of Congress to a grand total of two then, right?  I'm pretty sure that's unimpressive considering their large Congressional gains and their gains into other minority groups.

I still think Chuck Fleischmann in TN-03 is a closet Jew. He doesn't mention religion at all on his website, and, come on, his last name is Fleischmann.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2010, 10:13:26 PM
What surprises me about NY-1 & NY-13 is the GOP's success despite incredibly divisive primaries.  Like more than NY-23 divisive but without the Conservative Party split on election day.

Goes to show you how much more important election day splits are, as opposed to primary splits.

Yeah...but NY-13 had a meltdown.   Conservative Party pitted against Conservative Party, Hasidic groups in Brooklyn goin' against each other, Conservative Borough President behind the Democrat, crazy Republican from the past emerging to threaten to claim the nomination in a coup.... and it all mattered less than a ballot line where one candidate withdraw and endorsed the major party candidate.

It's not like the Republican who won in NY-23 was a Scozzafava

Staten Island is a weird place.  As you should know.  After all, Michael Grimm did actively seek Sarah Palin's endorsement.

Besides, McMahon came off as a bit of a nut during the campaign.  Voters didn't seem to have much tolerance for nuts this year, as we've noticed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 05, 2010, 10:20:55 PM
7 is fairly surprising imo.  I expected Maffei, McMahon, Bishop, and Murphy to win.

It's kind of hard to believe that Republicans would be stuck at holding only 2 NY CDs forever.  Especially when certain districts (NY-20, in particular) were Gerrymandered to elect Republicans (in contrast with NY-22, which is Gerrymandered to keep Hinchey in office).   With President Bush out of office, there's no reason for NY CDs not to revert to their pro-Republican tendencies of the recent past.  Even NY-04 was closer than usual, reverting back to the margins McCarthy last received in 1998.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 05, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
7 is fairly surprising imo.  I expected Maffei, McMahon, Bishop, and Murphy to win.

It's kind of hard to believe that Republicans would be stuck at holding only 2 NY CDs forever.  Especially when certain districts (NY-20, in particular) were Gerrymandered to elect Republicans (in contrast with NY-22, which is Gerrymandered to keep Hinchey in office).   With President Bush out of office, there's no reason for NY CDs not to revert to their pro-Republican tendencies of the recent past.  Even NY-04 was closer than usual, reverting back to the margins McCarthy last received in 1998.



Yeah obviously they were going to expand out of those 2, especially with  the [outdated] GOP gerrymanders, just a few of those 7 surprise me as I was following those races.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: bgwah on November 05, 2010, 10:27:34 PM
Yeah, I think Larsen has this in the bag.

What a relief. Having a GOP congressman = depressing thought.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 05, 2010, 10:36:59 PM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.

Whoa, that's a surprise. The NY Times still has Bishop as the winner with 51%. I guess they didn't get the message. So the Republicans are leading in SEVEN New York House races? Damn. Well, all of those 7 were gerrymandered for a Republican and Owens survived and Higgins landslided, so it wasn't like they made a clean sweep in the districts gerrymandered for them. Hopefully Maffei and Bishop can pull it out.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 05, 2010, 10:59:37 PM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.

In the end I think Bishop will pull it out.    Out of about 13,000 absentee ballots issued, 9,901 have been returned, and breakout to 39.92-36.47 in favor of the GOP, an advantage of 3.45% for the GOP.    Active voter rolls in the district is 35.87-29.90 in favor of the GOP, advantage of 5.97% for the GOP.

Combine that with the fact Election Day turnout likely favored the GOP, you are probably looking at somewhere along the lines of an 8-9 point registration advantage on Election Day compared to the 3.45% advantage of the absentee ballots.  Also keep in mind that the Absentee ballots are likely disproportionately from the Hamptons, and that area is typically more Democratic than registration numbers would suggest.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 05, 2010, 11:21:05 PM
In the end I think Bishop will pull it out.

Guess that means he's done for.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ucscgaldamez on November 06, 2010, 01:29:16 AM
I'm looking at the Washington returns and it looks like Murray will win by about 4% and may surpass 100k over Rossi.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Alcon on November 06, 2010, 02:17:34 AM
I'm looking at the Washington returns and it looks like Murray will win by about 4% and may surpass 100k over Rossi.

At least.  She has a shot at 5%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 06, 2010, 02:41:26 AM
Who will win the remaining house races?  I have a fairly good idea about KY-06, CA-20, and NY-01, but I'm not sure about the rest...

I'm fairly excited that Altschuler might win -- another Jewish Republican in congress sounds great! :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 06, 2010, 03:01:01 AM
Who will win the remaining house races?  I have a fairly good idea about KY-06, CA-08, and NY-01, but I'm not sure about the rest...

I'm fairly excited that Altschuler might win -- another Jewish Republican in congress sounds great! :)

as I said earlier the fact that the GOP advantage with the absentees is less than the district as a whole (with an even larger registration advantage considering the turnout) as well as the heavier concentration on the east end, Altschuler likely needs more than a 400 vote lead without the absentees to win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 06, 2010, 03:03:32 AM
Who will win the remaining house races?  I have a fairly good idea about KY-06, CA-08, and NY-01, but I'm not sure about the rest...

I'm fairly excited that Altschuler might win -- another Jewish Republican in congress sounds great! :)

Well, tell us what's your idea of who won in CA-08. Was it John Dennis?  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 06, 2010, 03:10:29 AM
Who will win the remaining house races?  I have a fairly good idea about KY-06, CA-08, and NY-01, but I'm not sure about the rest...

I'm fairly excited that Altschuler might win -- another Jewish Republican in congress sounds great! :)

Well, tell us what's your idea of who won in CA-08. Was it John Dennis? 

     Clearly a recount would overturn Pelosi's 65% lead.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 06, 2010, 04:42:50 AM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.

Not definite, but he's in a better place than Bishop is as of now

He's going to expand the Jewish-Republican caucus in all of Congress to a grand total of two then, right?  I'm pretty sure that's unimpressive considering their large Congressional gains and their gains into other minority groups.

I still think Chuck Fleischmann in TN-03 is a closet Jew. He doesn't mention religion at all on his website, and, come on, his last name is Fleischmann.
Which is more German than Jewish.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 06, 2010, 09:04:07 AM
Altschuler will win...seriously? Yuccccccck.

Not definite, but he's in a better place than Bishop is as of now

He's going to expand the Jewish-Republican caucus in all of Congress to a grand total of two then, right?  I'm pretty sure that's unimpressive considering their large Congressional gains and their gains into other minority groups.

I still think Chuck Fleischmann in TN-03 is a closet Jew. He doesn't mention religion at all on his website, and, come on, his last name is Fleischmann.

Well this TV ad's script says he's a Christian

http://www.chuckforcongress.com/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=e7da4d44-63af-4eea-b29b-f4eb196ae4b3&ContentType_id=0e5df947-9244-4b5e-ba6c-3f03a09e5693&Group_id=7d2b20a4-48c0-45ce-834e-3b855e4732a7&MonthDisplay=5&YearDisplay=2010

and this TV ad say he's a Christian:

http://www.youtube.com/ChuckforCongress#p/u/3/oDuXqF41IaA



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 06, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
Fine, fine. I didn't really feel the need to watch his TV ads to confirm his religion.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 06, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
Who will win the remaining house races?  I have a fairly good idea about KY-06, CA-08, and NY-01, but I'm not sure about the rest...

I'm fairly excited that Altschuler might win -- another Jewish Republican in congress sounds great! :)

Well, tell us what's your idea of who won in CA-08. Was it John Dennis?  

     Clearly a recount would overturn Pelosi's 65% lead.

I meant CA-20. :P

In other news, RCP declares TX-27 for Farenthold:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/2010/house_final_results.html

This guy seems super vulnerable in 2012. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 06, 2010, 12:52:03 PM

In other news, RCP declares TX-27 for Farenthold:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/2010/house_final_results.html

This guy seems super vulnerable in 2012. :(

The future is Cao Farenthold. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 06, 2010, 01:07:33 PM
Latest numbers from CA-20 (http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/11/05/2148337/costa-bites-into-vidaks-lead.html): 34,584 Vidak, 33,936 Costa, a margin of 648 votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 06, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
Who will win the remaining house races?  I have a fairly good idea about KY-06, CA-08, and NY-01, but I'm not sure about the rest...

I'm fairly excited that Altschuler might win -- another Jewish Republican in congress sounds great! :)

Well, tell us what's your idea of who won in CA-08. Was it John Dennis?  

     Clearly a recount would overturn Pelosi's 65% lead.

I meant CA-20. :P

In other news, RCP declares TX-27 for Farenthold:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/2010/house_final_results.html

This guy seems super vulnerable in 2012. :(
...unless they draw him a safe(ish) district that stretches north and west from Corpus.
Although that comes down to abandoning the southern half to a safer Hispanic district than ever.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 06, 2010, 01:37:37 PM

But CarlHayden assured me that Giffords would lose!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 06, 2010, 01:40:44 PM

But CarlHayden assured me that Giffords would lose!

When I saw Giffords on the tube, and after noticing who won the GOP primary to run against her, I had a pretty strong feeling Giffords would survive. She is a very supple operator and skilled politician.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 06, 2010, 02:33:06 PM

In other news, RCP declares TX-27 for Farenthold:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/2010/house_final_results.html

This guy seems super vulnerable in 2012. :(

The future is Cao Farenthold. :)

PVI = R+2 ?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
What's with the bizarrely low turnout in CA-47? The latest returns are:

Sanchez: 35,792
Tran: 29,996
Iglesias: 4,974

That's only about 70,000 votes. Vote-by-mail counting may be causing somewhat of a lag, yes, but all the neighboring districts report turnout at least double that and there's no reason why one district should experience such a lag and not the others.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 06, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
What's with the bizarrely low turnout in CA-47? The latest returns are:

Sanchez: 35,792
Tran: 29,996
Iglesias: 4,974

That's only about 70,000 votes. Vote-by-mail counting may be causing somewhat of a lag, yes, but all the neighboring districts report turnout at least double that and there's no reason why one district should experience such a lag and not the others.

That is what happens when you have a district with tons of folks who are not citizens.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 06, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
What's with the bizarrely low turnout in CA-47? The latest returns are:

Sanchez: 35,792
Tran: 29,996
Iglesias: 4,974

That's only about 70,000 votes. Vote-by-mail counting may be causing somewhat of a lag, yes, but all the neighboring districts report turnout at least double that and there's no reason why one district should experience such a lag and not the others.

That is what happens when you have a district with tons of folks who are not citizens.

Apparently so. This actually doesn't look that odd when you consider that only 75,619 votes were cast here in 2006.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 06, 2010, 03:38:01 PM
CA-20 is potentially even worse: only about 64,000 votes at the moment.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 06, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
CA-20 is potentially even worse: only about 64,000 votes at the moment.

That district, in addition to the citizen issue, has a lot of empty houses.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Vepres on November 06, 2010, 03:47:22 PM
I made a map of third party strength around the county in the Senate elections. >40% = total third party support >5%, >50% = total third party support 10%, etc.

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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nclib on November 06, 2010, 04:35:43 PM
AP called it for Giffords. Vidak's lead is down to 1,091 votes. McNerney's lead is at 441. Larsen's has expanded to 3,872.

Where is AP's link to recent calls? Their website is hard to navigate.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 06, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
AP called it for Giffords. Vidak's lead is down to 1,091 votes. McNerney's lead is at 441. Larsen's has expanded to 3,872.

Where is AP's link to recent calls? Their website is hard to navigate.

The results page for House races is here:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2010/general/by_county/us_house/AZ.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

You just have to replace AZ with the appropriate state. I don't think they have a general page like that, I just hear this stuff either here or on SSP.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 07, 2010, 10:24:27 AM
I never realized how weird Carly sounded in her own ads, it's like she's thinking hard about each punctuation mark.  Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlyforCalifornia#p/u/11/yc1aXp0sGAE

Maybe it's because what she's actually saying is just a series of unrelated clauses.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 07, 2010, 12:22:44 PM
Larsen is still leading by nearly 4,000 votes. I don't really see how Koster could overcome that margin at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 07, 2010, 03:13:50 PM
Question:
Would Shelly Capito have defeated Manchin if she had decided to run?

Personally, I think she could have. She has more name recognition and wouldn't have made the "hick" gaffe. Her only disadvantage would be that she isn't as socially conservative as Raese.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 07, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
Given the results, no. Manchin might have found it easier to run against her; his lack of electoral experience would have been less of a problem as there are issues on which he could attack her over while distancing himself from the unpopular administration at the same time. If she could have beaten him in the Charleston area - possible - she could have made it considerably closer, but she'd have found it hard to find the extra votes elsewhere.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 08, 2010, 01:27:03 AM
It would have been tough to beat Manchin, by anyone, after he decided to cut his ties basically to the national Dem party. And he will continue to do that, since he has to run in two years. And after having done it for that long, it may brand him, and how that will work long term for him is problematical. He may end up being one unhappy Dem, and move on. Politics can be a tough sport these days.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 08, 2010, 09:23:20 PM
The AP has called WA-02 for Larsen.

McNerney's lead has continued to slowly expand in CA-11; he's up to a 624 vote lead now. Vidak is down to a 145-vote lead in CA-20 (http://www.kmjnow.com/pages/landing_news?Vidaks-Lead-in-20th-District-Shrinks-Aga=1&blockID=348548&feedID=806), and Fresno will be reporting on Wednesday, which will probably put Costa over the top.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 08, 2010, 09:50:08 PM
The AP has called WA-02 for Larsen.

McNerney's lead has continued to slowly expand in CA-11; he's up to a 624 vote lead now. Vidak is down to a 145-vote lead in CA-20 (http://www.kmjnow.com/pages/landing_news?Vidaks-Lead-in-20th-District-Shrinks-Aga=1&blockID=348548&feedID=806), and Fresno will be reporting on Wednesday, which will probably put Costa over the top.

Do you have a link to the CA-11 number?  And I can't find that neat AP link. I want to know what counties came in today. San Joaquin County's registrar of voters is not showing any new votes. If the new numbers are from San Joaquin, McNerney is going to win. If not, we will have to await San Joaquin to give some late absentee numbers, to see if the late ballots are more Dem than the earlier ballots phenomenon at least in California and Washington, obtains here. (The additions from CA-11 from late last week were also all from counties other than San Joaquin, all of which McNerney was ahead in as of last Wednesday.)

Costa will win CA-20. There is next to nothing to count as someone noted from Kings, which is the Pubbie's base. So it looks like probably the GOP will pick up 62 seats net, assuming that they bag NY-1 and NY-25.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 08, 2010, 10:03:16 PM
No idea where the votes have come from; none of the articles I've found specify.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2010/general/by_county/us_house/CA.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

Just replace CA with whatever state abbreviation you like.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 08, 2010, 10:12:37 PM

Costa will win CA-20. There is next to nothing to count as someone noted from Kings, which is the Pubbie's base. So it looks like probably the GOP will pick up 62 seats net, assuming that they bag NY-1 and NY-25.

If they win both NY-01 and NY-25, they will pick up 63 seats (remember, TX-27 was recently called for the GOP).

They might even be able to pick up 64 if they win in IL-08 (what's going on with that, by the way?).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 08, 2010, 10:13:34 PM

Costa will win CA-20. There is next to nothing to count as someone noted from Kings, which is the Pubbie's base. So it looks like probably the GOP will pick up 62 seats net, assuming that they bag NY-1 and NY-25.

If they win both NY-01 and NY-25, they will pick up 63 seats (remember, TX-27 was recently called for the GOP).

They might even be able to pick up 64 if they win in IL-08 (what's going on with that, by the way?).

Based off the breakout of the absentees Bishop likely wins.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 08, 2010, 10:28:37 PM
Fimian is conceding in VA-11. (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/11/fimian_will_concede_defeat_to.html)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 08, 2010, 11:10:17 PM
No idea where the votes have come from; none of the articles I've found specify.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2010/general/by_county/us_house/CA.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

Just replace CA with whatever state abbreviation you like.

Actually, the thousand votes or so that came in today for CA-11, all from Santa Clara County, vis a vis what was counted by last Wednesday, were a slight improvement for Harmer. Harmer is still alive - for the moment.

   Santa   Clara                     
54.04%   5285   6912   1627   55.45%   7,463    551   53.70%      
45.96%   4495   5802   1307   44.55%   6,277    475   46.30%      
8.08%   9780   12714   2934   10.91%              1026     7.41%    -0.34%   Dem decline


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 08, 2010, 11:17:38 PM

Costa will win CA-20. There is next to nothing to count as someone noted from Kings, which is the Pubbie's base. So it looks like probably the GOP will pick up 62 seats net, assuming that they bag NY-1 and NY-25.

If they win both NY-01 and NY-25, they will pick up 63 seats (remember, TX-27 was recently called for the GOP).

They might even be able to pick up 64 if they win in IL-08 (what's going on with that, by the way?).

Based off the breakout of the absentees Bishop likely wins.

Assuming the partisan breakdown was the same as what was counted so far vis a vis party registration. But the absentees from Wayne County in NY-25 were considerably more GOP than what came before, giving the Pubbie about 500-600 votes more than anticipated. New York is on the East coast, not the West coast. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 10, 2010, 12:21:05 PM
In CA-11, Harmer had a very rough day yesterday, as votes came in from Alameda, replicating its earlier swing to McNerney plus a bit. Harmer will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat in San Joaquin, the one place where he won, by having the late absentees and provisionals swing to him by perhaps 6%, plus have a turnout that matches the balance of the district with its late reporting, to get back to even.. That is highly unlikely. Harmer is really on the ropes now.

   Alameda               11/9/2010   
57.32%   15688   16086   398   59.49%   21024   4938   59.96%
42.68%   11679   11950   271   40.51%   15247   3297   40.04%
14.65%  27367  28036   669   18.98%   36271   8235   19.93%   5.28%   Dem Gain


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 10, 2010, 12:23:40 PM
What else is still open - NY1, NY25, IL8, CA20 and officially KY6 because they take their time for a routine recanvass - is that correct?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 10, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
Personally, I think IL-8 is over barring a miracle/mistake in recount.  Cook County absentee counting is basically over (only 500 absentee ballots have not been returned and there are only about 200 provisionals) whereas Lake and McHenry still have ballots left (Lake has 600 definite absentees and a few hundred provisionals whereas McHenry certainly has some absentees) and Bean is still down 347.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 10, 2010, 01:44:52 PM
In CA-11, Harmer had a very rough day yesterday, as votes came in from Alameda, replicating its earlier swing to McNerney plus a bit. Harmer will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat in San Joaquin, the one place where he won, by having the late absentees and provisionals swing to him by perhaps 6%, plus have a turnout that matches the balance of the district with its late reporting, to get back to even.. That is highly unlikely. Harmer is really on the ropes now.

   Alameda               11/9/2010   
57.32%   15688   16086   398   59.49%   21024   4938   59.96%
42.68%   11679   11950   271   40.51%   15247   3297   40.04%
14.65%  27367  28036   669   18.98%   36271   8235   19.93%   5.28%   Dem Gain


So after three consecutive wave elections, only one of California's seats changed hands when McNerney defeated Pombo in 2006.
Whoever gerrymandered the state did a spectacular job.

Personally, I think IL-8 is over barring a miracle/mistake in recount.  Cook County absentee counting is basically over (only 500 absentee ballots have not been returned and there are only about 200 provisionals) whereas Lake and McHenry still have ballots left (Lake has 600 definite absentees and a few hundred provisionals whereas McHenry certainly has some absentees) and Bean is still down 347.

Illinois will probably be the only state where Democrats are going to have a LOT of fun with redistricting.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 10, 2010, 01:54:24 PM
In CA-11, Harmer had a very rough day yesterday, as votes came in from Alameda, replicating its earlier swing to McNerney plus a bit. Harmer will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat in San Joaquin, the one place where he won, by having the late absentees and provisionals swing to him by perhaps 6%, plus have a turnout that matches the balance of the district with its late reporting, to get back to even.. That is highly unlikely. Harmer is really on the ropes now.

   Alameda               11/9/2010   
57.32%   15688   16086   398   59.49%   21024   4938   59.96%
42.68%   11679   11950   271   40.51%   15247   3297   40.04%
14.65%  27367  28036   669   18.98%   36271   8235   19.93%   5.28%   Dem Gain


So after three consecutive wave elections, only one of California's seats changed hands when McNerney defeated Pombo in 2006.
Whoever gerrymandered the state did a spectacular job.

Compare the 90s:

1992 30 D, 22 R
1994 27 D, 25 R
1995 26 D, 26 R (by-election)
1996 29 D, 23 R
1998 28 D, 24 R (three seats changed hands, two gains one way, one the other)
2000 32 D, 20 R, which (plus a new, democratic seat) is the distribution set into stone by the redistricting.
Although, compared to the size of the 94 wave and the size of the state, that's less-than-impressive movement. A lot of the state simply is safe for one party or the other.

Also, have a look at Washington, with its nonpartisan redistricting:
1992 8 D, 1 R
1994 7 R, 2 D
1996 6 R, 3 D
1998 5 D, 4 R
2000 6 D, 3 R
and no change since. The 2000's waves just weren't that big on the west coast.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 10, 2010, 02:31:59 PM
In CA-11, Harmer had a very rough day yesterday, as votes came in from Alameda, replicating its earlier swing to McNerney plus a bit. Harmer will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat in San Joaquin, the one place where he won, by having the late absentees and provisionals swing to him by perhaps 6%, plus have a turnout that matches the balance of the district with its late reporting, to get back to even.. That is highly unlikely. Harmer is really on the ropes now.

   Alameda               11/9/2010   
57.32%   15688   16086   398   59.49%   21024   4938   59.96%
42.68%   11679   11950   271   40.51%   15247   3297   40.04%
14.65%  27367  28036   669   18.98%   36271   8235   19.93%   5.28%   Dem Gain


So after three consecutive wave elections, only one of California's seats changed hands when McNerney defeated Pombo in 2006.
Whoever gerrymandered the state did a spectacular job.

Compare the 90s:

1992 30 D, 22 R
1994 27 D, 25 R
1995 26 D, 26 R (by-election)
1996 29 D, 23 R
1998 28 D, 24 R (three seats changed hands, two gains one way, one the other)
2000 32 D, 20 R, which (plus a new, democratic seat) is the distribution set into stone by the redistricting.
Although, compared to the size of the 94 wave and the size of the state, that's less-than-impressive movement. A lot of the state simply is safe for one party or the other.

Also, have a look at Washington, with its nonpartisan redistricting:
1992 8 D, 1 R
1994 7 R, 2 D
1996 6 R, 3 D
1998 5 D, 4 R
2000 6 D, 3 R
and no change since. The 2000's waves just weren't that big on the west coast.

     I suspect that the political landscape on the West Coast has solidified to an extent not seen in most other parts of the country. Who knows how long that will last.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 10, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
In CA-11, Harmer had a very rough day yesterday, as votes came in from Alameda, replicating its earlier swing to McNerney plus a bit. Harmer will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat in San Joaquin, the one place where he won, by having the late absentees and provisionals swing to him by perhaps 6%, plus have a turnout that matches the balance of the district with its late reporting, to get back to even.. That is highly unlikely. Harmer is really on the ropes now.

   Alameda               11/9/2010   
57.32%   15688   16086   398   59.49%   21024   4938   59.96%
42.68%   11679   11950   271   40.51%   15247   3297   40.04%
14.65%  27367  28036   669   18.98%   36271   8235   19.93%   5.28%   Dem Gain


So after three consecutive wave elections, only one of California's seats changed hands when McNerney defeated Pombo in 2006.
Whoever gerrymandered the state did a spectacular job.

Personally, I think IL-8 is over barring a miracle/mistake in recount.  Cook County absentee counting is basically over (only 500 absentee ballots have not been returned and there are only about 200 provisionals) whereas Lake and McHenry still have ballots left (Lake has 600 definite absentees and a few hundred provisionals whereas McHenry certainly has some absentees) and Bean is still down 347.

Illinois will probably be the only state where Democrats are going to have a LOT of fun with redistricting.

There are only a couple of places where the status quo has actually changed.  IL and NC are the big ones, along with FL thanks to the amendments.  The GOP might be able to get one more seat out of IN now, and the Dems might be able to get one more out of VA now that they have split control, but the other big states are basically still in the 2001 status quo.  In MN it's likely going to be a D governor and an R legislature instead of a D legislature and R governor, but I don't think that really matters.  MA now has a D governor, but the legislature is and was veto proof anyway.

There is also the impact of the Obama DOJ basically having veto power over redistricting in the former Confederacy, but the effects are still unclear.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2010, 03:51:27 PM
The "status quo" hasn't changed in states like OH and PA if one believes the 06 and 08 results were the abberation, and the bad economy didn't aid GOP candidates far out of proportion to their actual political strength. I question that.

Accordingly Republican redistricting monopolies in these and other states will do quite a bit to fundamentally change the "status quo".


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 10, 2010, 07:43:55 PM
And Costa takes a 1,200 vote lead in CA-20, so this one is over. (http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=7767599)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 10, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
Meanwhile, things are getting tense (http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/253015/unresolved-house-races-part-three) in IL-8. Assuming foul play is involved, it does strike me as odd that the Cook County Dem operatives really want to hold this seat that bad, particularly if it is going to be gerrymandered away. The article fails to give the Cook County side of the story, either because it is biased, or because the Cook County operatives are stonewalling.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 10, 2010, 09:28:19 PM
And Costa takes a 1,200 vote lead in CA-20, so this one is over. (http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=7767599)

Why?  Are there no votes left to count from Kings County?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 10, 2010, 09:31:44 PM
And Costa takes a 1,200 vote lead in CA-20, so this one is over. (http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=7767599)

Why?  Are there no votes left to count from Kings County?

Correct. There are still some ballots left in Fresno and Kern, in fact.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 10, 2010, 10:21:50 PM
Well boys and girls (I forgot we seem to be a female free zone), CA-11 will stay in Dem hands. This one is over.

San Joaquin                        
Harmer   52.48%    45,958   58652   12,694   51.65%         
McNerney47.52%   41,612   53493   11,881   48.35%   0.83%   Dem Improvement   
                               87,570                24,575   

In sum, the GOP bombed out in CA. They took nothing from the Dems, nothing, except perhaps picking up the AG slot (Cooley, but I have not been tracking that one closely), while losing one assembly seat.    Sure, some of the Dem margins eroded, some substantially, but the color is still all blue, or red, or whatever color is the Dem color.

Addendum:

Given the Dem lean of these late absentees, and how Cooley's margin is eroding, he looks like he is headed to defeat as well, unless Orange County and other such places are discernably slower in counting their late absentees than the balance of the state, but bearing in mind that the provisionals, which are the last to count typically, have typically an even more Dem lean. So Cooley is on life support probably.

Kamala D. Harris (Dem)   3,928,805 45.8%
Steve Cooley (Rep)         3,940,205 45.9%

      



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Ronnie on November 11, 2010, 03:11:52 AM
Will Mary Bono Mack have trouble being reelected in 2012 if Steve Pougnet runs again?  A 10% win is not very solid, especially in such a good year for Pubbies.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 11, 2010, 03:19:58 AM
Harry Reid ended up winning Searchlight by just 3 votes.  ;D (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/nevada-wonk/2010/nov/10/harry-reid-won-his-hometown-searchlight-three-vote/)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 11, 2010, 03:36:13 AM
Will Mary Bono Mack have trouble being reelected in 2012 if Steve Pougnet runs again?  A 10% win is not very solid, especially in such a good year for Pubbies.

I would certainly say so.  Especially as her district will probably be reconfigured to be more Democratic in redistricting. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 11, 2010, 04:33:27 AM
Well boys and girls (I forgot we seem to be a female free zone), CA-11 will stay in Dem hands. This one is over.

San Joaquin                        
Harmer   52.48%    45,958   58652   12,694   51.65%         
McNerney47.52%   41,612   53493   11,881   48.35%   0.83%   Dem Improvement   
                               87,570                24,575   

In sum, the GOP bombed out in CA. They took nothing from the Dems, nothing, except perhaps picking up the AG slot (Cooley, but I have not been tracking that one closely), while losing one assembly seat.    Sure, some of the Dem margins eroded, some substantially, but the color is still all blue, or red, or whatever color is the Dem color.
Yellow.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 11, 2010, 09:08:44 AM
Harry Reid ended up winning Searchlight by just 3 votes.  ;D (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/nevada-wonk/2010/nov/10/harry-reid-won-his-hometown-searchlight-three-vote/)

Did you notice that Angle's pre-victory tour included a "Twilight in Searchlight" media event to mark the end of Harry Reid's career?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Holmes on November 11, 2010, 10:08:25 AM
Oh Torie, I do hope Harris does pull it out. :) She seems like a young charismatic talent, and seems like the obvious successor to Feinstein or Boxer when they retire. Karl Rove figured as much.

But honestly, I think Cooley was the "best" statewide candidate that the Republicans had, and Harris was probably the "worst" statewide candidate the Democrats had.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 11, 2010, 10:43:22 AM
Has anybody see or computed a national popular vote total for all 435 races for the House of Representatives?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 11, 2010, 11:03:18 AM
Has anybody see or computed a national popular vote total for all 435 races for the House of Representatives?

Green Papers says 52.2 to 44.6.  My latest tally has 52.1 to 44.7, but there are about 5 uncontested CDs that I'm going to have to work at to get numbers (or simply wait for the official canvass - like in Alabama).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 11, 2010, 12:00:20 PM
Has anybody see or computed a national popular vote total for all 435 races for the House of Representatives?

Green Papers says 52.2 to 44.6.  My latest tally has 52.1 to 44.7, but there are about 5 uncontested CDs that I'm going to have to work at to get numbers (or simply wait for the official canvass - like in Alabama).

Here (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/AL/21091/40015/en/summary.html#) is the place for your missing Alabama numbers Sam. Yes, it was hard to find. The trick is to go to wikipedia for the 2010 elections for each state, and explore their links. That is how I found this hidden page at the Alabama SOS site.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 11, 2010, 12:12:49 PM
If Cooley ends up losing by a tiny margin, and since Mcnerney has more or less held on in his district, this election cycle will have been awesome.

But what chance is there really of Cooley losing? He is still ahead by 20,000 votes, and that margin is going to be hard to whittle down. She might be able to get it down below 10,000 but obviously that is not enough. The one statewide race where I actually cared whether the Democrat won, the Republican wins. :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 11, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
Anything on those House seats still out?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 11, 2010, 12:24:32 PM
If Cooley ends up losing by a tiny margin, and since Mcnerney has more or less held on in his district, this election cycle will have been awesome.

But what chance is there really of Cooley losing? He is still ahead by 20,000 votes, and that margin is going to be hard to whittle down. She might be able to get it down below 10,000 but obviously that is not enough. The one statewide race where I actually cared whether the Democrat won, the Republican wins. :(

How many ballots are they left to count, my friend? Do you want to take a guess? It's over a million, yes a million!  You just gotta love our state; it is just such a blast. If you are a masochist, I suppose you could slap the ballots left to count numbers from here (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/2010-election-information/november-2010/total-unprocessed-ballots.pdf) on to a spreadsheet, and do candidate splits based on the split in each county so far, and do a projection. Glancing at the sheet, maybe Cooley will pull it out, if he is running close in LA County. Is he?  I have not checked.

Addendum: The sheet does not reflect ballots that were counted and totals released on the afternoon of Nov 10 I see (I know that, because it says San Joaquin's last numbers were from Nov 8, and I know they released a count of a bunch of votes late yesterday afternoon (the ballots which put a stake into the heart of Harmer).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 11, 2010, 12:30:06 PM
Has anybody see or computed a national popular vote total for all 435 races for the House of Representatives?

Green Papers says 52.2 to 44.6.  My latest tally has 52.1 to 44.7, but there are about 5 uncontested CDs that I'm going to have to work at to get numbers (or simply wait for the official canvass - like in Alabama).

Here (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/AL/21091/40015/en/summary.html#) is the place for your missing Alabama numbers Sam. Yes, it was hard to find. The trick is to go to wikipedia for the 2010 elections for each state, and explore their links. That is how I found this hidden page at the Alabama SOS site.

Thanks.  Otherwise, I would have just waited for the official canvass, where it will appear.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 11, 2010, 12:32:31 PM
Is there any other state that you are missing Sam?  I am here for you pal.  :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 11, 2010, 12:35:15 PM
Is there any other state that you are missing Sam?  I am here for you pal.  :)

I don't have my Excel sheet in front of me - basically it's only completely uncontested CDs (no third-party, nothing) and two were in Alabama.  I think one is in Florida, but I forget the other two.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 11, 2010, 12:36:51 PM
If Cooley ends up losing by a tiny margin, and since Mcnerney has more or less held on in his district, this election cycle will have been awesome.

But what chance is there really of Cooley losing? He is still ahead by 20,000 votes, and that margin is going to be hard to whittle down. She might be able to get it down below 10,000 but obviously that is not enough. The one statewide race where I actually cared whether the Democrat won, the Republican wins. :(

How many ballots are they left to count, my friend? Do you want to take a guess? It's over a million, yes a million!  You just gotta love our state; it is just such a blast. If you are a masochist, I suppose you could slap the ballots left to count numbers from here (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/2010-election-information/november-2010/total-unprocessed-ballots.pdf) on to a spreadsheet, and do candidate splits based on the split in each county so far, and do a projection. Glancing at the sheet, maybe Cooley will pull it out, if he is running close in LA County. Is he?  I have not checked.

Addendum: The sheet does not reflect ballots that were counted and totals released on the afternoon of Nov 10 I see (I know that, because it says San Joaquin's last numbers were from Nov 8, and I know they released a count of a bunch of votes late yesterday afternoon (the ballots which put a stake into the heart of Harmer).

Here is a few days old version of such a spreadsheet: http://swingstateproject.com/diary/7991/caag-improvement-for-kamala


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 11, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
If Cooley ends up losing by a tiny margin, and since Mcnerney has more or less held on in his district, this election cycle will have been awesome.

But what chance is there really of Cooley losing? He is still ahead by 20,000 votes, and that margin is going to be hard to whittle down. She might be able to get it down below 10,000 but obviously that is not enough. The one statewide race where I actually cared whether the Democrat won, the Republican wins. :(

How many ballots are they left to count, my friend? Do you want to take a guess? It's over a million, yes a million!  You just gotta love our state; it is just such a blast. If you are a masochist, I suppose you could slap the ballots left to count numbers from here (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/2010-election-information/november-2010/total-unprocessed-ballots.pdf) on to a spreadsheet, and do candidate splits based on the split in each county so far, and do a projection. Glancing at the sheet, maybe Cooley will pull it out, if he is running close in LA County. Is he?  I have not checked.

Addendum: The sheet does not reflect ballots that were counted and totals released on the afternoon of Nov 10 I see (I know that, because it says San Joaquin's last numbers were from Nov 8, and I know they released a count of a bunch of votes late yesterday afternoon (the ballots which put a stake into the heart of Harmer).

To do an easier one first, Harris would need to win the rest of the ballots (provisionals so maybe that helps her) by a 10 point margin to win bellwether San Benito County. It seems like Los Angeles county has a lot left as well as Contra Costa. Unfortunately for Harris, she is not running as well as she needs to in those counties to win, though she sill has a 13 point lead in both counties. And the counties she did better in like Alameda and Santa Clara have mostly reported. San Diego and Sacramento also have a lot of ballots left and Harris is losing in both. Actually she might be the only Democrat to lose Sacramento county this cycle.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 11, 2010, 02:23:48 PM
Harry Reid ended up winning Searchlight by just 3 votes.  ;D (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/nevada-wonk/2010/nov/10/harry-reid-won-his-hometown-searchlight-three-vote/)

Only 3 votes ? ??? That's certainly one of the poorest "home turf effects" ever.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Alcon on November 11, 2010, 03:41:10 PM
Harry Reid ended up winning Searchlight by just 3 votes.  ;D (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/nevada-wonk/2010/nov/10/harry-reid-won-his-hometown-searchlight-three-vote/)

Only 3 votes ? ??? That's certainly one of the poorest "home turf effects" ever.

Searchlight is pretty darn Republican.  I don't think Obama won it


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 11, 2010, 05:54:07 PM
Not sure if this was answered earlier in the thread or not, but does anyone know how Dioguardi wound up with those 50,000 extra votes in Niagara County?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 11, 2010, 07:27:56 PM
Harry Reid ended up winning Searchlight by just 3 votes.  ;D (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/nevada-wonk/2010/nov/10/harry-reid-won-his-hometown-searchlight-three-vote/)

Only 3 votes ? ??? That's certainly one of the poorest "home turf effects" ever.

Searchlight is pretty darn Republican.  I don't think Obama won it

It also has a population of 600.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on November 11, 2010, 08:45:21 PM
Not sure if this was answered earlier in the thread or not, but does anyone know how Dioguardi wound up with those 50,000 extra votes in Niagara County?


There seems to be have just been some reporting error - NY Times is now reporting that he got 25,714, which is 43%, rather than 75,714 which was reported on election night. The Atlas here still has 75,714 though.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 11, 2010, 09:44:27 PM
Hey, I found y'all another Republican Jew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 11, 2010, 11:00:33 PM
Hey, I found y'all another Republican Jew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross

Has anyone noted yet that Michael Grimm is Jewish (remembering the McMahon staffer rants on the subject...)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 11, 2010, 11:08:19 PM
Hey, I found y'all another Republican Jew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross

Has anyone noted yet that Michael Grimm is Jewish (remembering the McMahon staffer rants on the subject...)

Is Grimm himself actually Jewish? I thought the McMahon staffer scandal only involved a list of Jewish donors to Grimm's campaign.

Grimm did run flyers during the primary touting his Italian-American mother, but people with German surnames can indeed often actually be Jewish.

Of course, he was endorsed by Dov Hikind, which was the last straw in terms of having any chance of getting my vote.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Verily on November 11, 2010, 11:09:46 PM
Wikipedia says he's Catholic, FWIW. I think that might be a legal requirement to win NY-13.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on November 11, 2010, 11:10:54 PM
Hey, I found y'all another Republican Jew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross


I think you're confusing the diplomat Dennis Ross (who is Jewish) with the new Florida congressman Dennis Ross (who isn't).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 11, 2010, 11:12:48 PM
Wikipedia says he's Catholic, FWIW. I think that might be a legal requirement to win NY-13.

And I thought you had to be Italian too, but apparently not, in the case of McMahon. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 11, 2010, 11:19:45 PM
Hey, I found y'all another Republican Jew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross


I think you're confusing the diplomat Dennis Ross (who is Jewish) with the new Florida congressman Dennis Ross (who isn't).

Ah, screw wikipedia and its lack of disambiguation.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 11, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
So there is absolutely no chance of me ever ever winning NY-13, correct?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 11, 2010, 11:23:23 PM
So there is absolutely no chance of me ever ever winning NY-13, correct?

Yes, but Catholicism is the least of your worries there.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 11, 2010, 11:29:23 PM
What do they also hate strip clubs there or something? Staten Island doesn't strike me as a strip club haven, they are mostly in Manhattan or Brooklyn in NYC from what I understand. Or are you just referring to the whole "being a liberal Democrat" thing?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 11, 2010, 11:44:46 PM
What do they also hate strip clubs there or something? Staten Island doesn't strike me as a strip club haven, they are mostly in Manhattan or Brooklyn in NYC from what I understand. Or are you just referring to the whole "being a liberal Democrat" thing?

Do you wear gold chains and have a cousin named Vinnie?

Anyway, I stand corrected on Grimm.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 12, 2010, 12:30:25 PM
Recanvass in KY-06 changes the outcome... by 1 vote. (http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/11/12/recanvass-shows-chandler-still-with-lead-over-barr-in-6th-district-race/)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 12, 2010, 12:51:06 PM
So there is absolutely no chance of me ever ever winning NY-13, correct?
No. You'll convert three days after your first romantic date with KP, and be elected Representative for NY-13 in 14 years.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 12, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
Harry Reid ended up winning Searchlight by just 3 votes.  ;D (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/nevada-wonk/2010/nov/10/harry-reid-won-his-hometown-searchlight-three-vote/)

Only 3 votes ? ??? That's certainly one of the poorest "home turf effects" ever.

Searchlight is pretty darn Republican.  I don't think Obama won it
McCain by ten. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=99208.0)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 12, 2010, 03:36:21 PM
If Cooley ends up losing by a tiny margin, and since Mcnerney has more or less held on in his district, this election cycle will have been awesome.

But what chance is there really of Cooley losing? He is still ahead by 20,000 votes, and that margin is going to be hard to whittle down. She might be able to get it down below 10,000 but obviously that is not enough. The one statewide race where I actually cared whether the Democrat won, the Republican wins. :(

     Yeah, Harris was probably the only Democrat I actually wanted to see win in California. Not that I voted for her anyway.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 12, 2010, 05:13:00 PM
Barr has conceded in KY-06.

http://www.lex18.com/news/barr-concedes-to-chandler-in-congressional-race-after-re-canvass


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 13, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Maffei, in NY-25, is almost as in extremis (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/post_312.html) as Harmer in CA-11. Looking at the numbers at the link will tell you why. That race is probably over.

Meanwhile, the fun and games (http://www.easthamptonstar.com/dnn/Home/News/NowAltschulerLeads/tabid/13646/Default.aspx) will probably continue for weeks, in NY-1. That seat will probably be the last in the United States to be decided.

Presumably next Tuesday will be the day that IL-8 is decided (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-illinoishouse-8th,0,6477930.story), unless of course it isn't. :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 13, 2010, 01:18:26 PM
GOP at 242?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 13, 2010, 01:23:40 PM

NY-25 gives them 241 (that one is almost in the bag), and if you think Walsh has won IL-8 (too early to say that quite yet), that would be 242, and if the Pubbie wins in a month or so in NY-1, that would be 243, or a gain of 64 seats. If Bishop (D) wins NY-1, that is a gain of 63 seats, which is the precise number that I "predicted."  :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 13, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
Wait...we're at 240 right now, right? There are five races out there that are still undecided but the Republican leads. If we win all five, doesn't that put us just one seat short of our all time high (246) in the House?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 13, 2010, 04:49:01 PM
You guys are at 239 right now. You'll win IL-08, NY-25 and TX-27. We'll take CA-11 and CA-20. NY-01 is up in the air.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 13, 2010, 07:23:08 PM
Quote
Murkowski has also argued that election officials should judge ballots based on voter intent — a position Miller blasted the senator for in a strongly worded press release.

"I am disappointed Murkowski endorses a complete disregard for state law. Murkowski mocks the very write-in process she invoked by now claiming it is not a spelling or penmanship test," said Miller in the release, which spelled the senator’s name incorrectly.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45070.html#ixzz15DBXJ69y

lol.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 13, 2010, 08:37:24 PM
Amazing job Alaska school system, so many ballots spelled correctly!  Murkowski wins, Miller's staff is packing it in


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 13, 2010, 08:52:59 PM
Just imagine how many Millers and Angles flew under the radar and got elected in the House.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 13, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
I was watching my DVD of election night returns.  I noted this ironic event: it was probably about 4 AM CDT and Fox interviewed Lisa Murkowski.  It was a nice interview, but in the crawl space at the bottom of the screen, it has her name as "Merkowski."

Pretty funny!

But not as funny as Chris Matthews "hypnotic" election night interview with Michele Bachmann.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 13, 2010, 11:04:22 PM


But not as funny as Chris Matthews "hypnotic" election night interview with Michele Bachmann.

Yeah, that was great. Matthews' comment was hilarious but I loved what Bachmann was doing. The sign behind her asking Chris about the tingle in his leg was priceless. He got so cranky about something he claims he never said. I guess he knows what Palin feels like whenever they talk about her seeing Russia from her house. What goes around, comes around.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 13, 2010, 11:05:13 PM
Things be looking bad for Bobby Eth!


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 13, 2010, 11:06:19 PM

My question was about the historic seat total: is it or is it not 246?  :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 13, 2010, 11:13:24 PM

My question was about the historic seat total: is it or is it not 246?  :P

No, the GOP had 300 in 1920, which was high.  246 was the post WWII high.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 13, 2010, 11:20:05 PM

My question was about the historic seat total: is it or is it not 246?  :P

No, the GOP had 300 in 1920, which was high.  246 was the post WWII high.

Ah, that's what I meant.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 13, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

My question was about the historic seat total: is it or is it not 246?  :P

No, the GOP had 300 in 1920, which was high.  246 was the post WWII high.

Ah, that's what I meant.

That's why I answered it that way.  ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: muon2 on November 14, 2010, 08:00:35 AM
Maffei, in NY-25, is almost as in extremis (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/post_312.html) as Harmer in CA-11. Looking at the numbers at the link will tell you why. That race is probably over.

Meanwhile, the fun and games (http://www.easthamptonstar.com/dnn/Home/News/NowAltschulerLeads/tabid/13646/Default.aspx) will probably continue for weeks, in NY-1. That seat will probably be the last in the United States to be decided.

Presumably next Tuesday will be the day that IL-8 is decided (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-illinoishouse-8th,0,6477930.story), unless of course it isn't. :)

Tuesday is the deadline for counties to report final results to the IL state board of election. Certification by the state happens a week later. At that point a candidate can officially seek a recount.

BTW, that official timeline is the underlying reason for the delay in seating Sen. Kirk, internet speculation notwithstanding. The federal judge who ordered the special election kept the timeline in place.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 16, 2010, 07:01:35 PM
Life's been good to Joe Walsh, he wins by 291 votes in IL-08. (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/rep-melissa-bean-comes-up-short-in-final-count-20101116) Bean is going to hold a press conference tomorrow.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 16, 2010, 10:53:24 PM
Bean concedes to Walsh.  Not surprised.  Leaves six races left.  Honestly, I think the only race left in the air is NY-1.  We're just biding time on the others.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/bean-walsh-illinois-8th-district-108557139.html


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 16, 2010, 10:54:52 PM
Bean concedes to Walsh.  Not surprised.  Leaves six races left.  Honestly, I think the only race left in the air is NY-1.  We're just biding time on the others.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/bean-walsh-illinois-8th-district-108557139.html

Six?

CA-11, CA-20, TX-27, NY-01, NY-25 and...?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 16, 2010, 11:13:26 PM
Bean concedes to Walsh.  Not surprised.  Leaves six races left.  Honestly, I think the only race left in the air is NY-1.  We're just biding time on the others.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/bean-walsh-illinois-8th-district-108557139.html

Six?

CA-11, CA-20, TX-27, NY-01, NY-25 and...?

Etherridge hasn't conceded in NC-2 and will be getting a recount, though I consider his a "lost cause" at behind by 1500 votes, to put it mildly.  Kinda like the CA districts and honestly, NY-25, where the numbers continue to get worse for Maffei as votes are counte.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 16, 2010, 11:38:36 PM
Life's been good to Joe Walsh, he wins by 291 votes in IL-08. (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/rep-melissa-bean-comes-up-short-in-final-count-20101116) Bean is going to hold a press conference tomorrow.

Thus enjoying an unexpected-but-short two-year career in the U.S. House of Representatives. "Huzzah."


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 16, 2010, 11:39:54 PM
Nah he'll probably survive. All the Republican parts of Dold's seat likely end up in his and Dold ends up with the two-year career.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 16, 2010, 11:48:42 PM
Nah he'll probably survive. All the Republican parts of Dold's seat likely end up in his and Dold ends up with the two-year career.


More likely is that the most Republican parts of this district are packed into Manzullo's district. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dgov on November 17, 2010, 12:00:12 AM
Nah he'll probably survive. All the Republican parts of Dold's seat likely end up in his and Dold ends up with the two-year career.

Tsk Tsk.  You need to start thinking creatively about Gerrymandering.  The Democrats can probably take out every Republican in the Chicago area if they're greedy/skilled enough


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 17, 2010, 03:13:15 AM
Nah he'll probably survive. All the Republican parts of Dold's seat likely end up in his and Dold ends up with the two-year career.

Tsk Tsk.  You need to start thinking creatively about Gerrymandering.  The Democrats can probably take out every Republican in the Chicago area if they're greedy/skilled enough

Yeah, they should be able to take out both Dold and Walsh. And perhaps create swing seats out of two more and leave 2 more lean R districts in the Chicago area while creating another downstate Dem district.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Guderian on November 17, 2010, 05:24:19 AM
But too creative redistricting might piss off some Dem incumbents who would be exposed to unknown territory.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 17, 2010, 09:12:37 AM
But too creative redistricting might piss off some Dem incumbents who would be exposed to unknown territory.

Better for Republicans to look at the gazillion states where you're controlling redistricting for comfort than to have forlorn hopes about Dems sabotaging their gerrymandering attempts in the only map of consequence they control. The Dems in the legislature are ruthless efficient, I would guess.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 17, 2010, 08:00:25 PM
Costa is up to a 2,422-vote lead. (http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x669264926/Costas-lead-up-to-2-422-in-congressional-race) Dear AP: please call this race finally.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 17, 2010, 09:47:46 PM
Five out, the Democrats are leading in the two in CA.

GOP leads in that one in TX and the two in NY, but one looks razor thin.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 17, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
The Democrats have won those 2 California House race. Even the non math PhDs can see that McNerney won. The Attorney General race is actually still too close to call, although Harris will probably win.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 18, 2010, 04:36:57 PM
Just an update on NY-1.  Absentees from the 60 ED's in Smithtown within the 1st district as well as 39 of the 42 ED's in the Town of Southampton have been counted, lowering Altschuler's margin to 280.  

The towns of East Hampton and Southold absentees will be counted today, no word yet on when Brookhaven (which is the largest), Riverhead or Shelter Island (the smallest) will be counted.

This is pretty good news for Bishop, Smithown is easily the most Republican portion of the district (McCain won it by 15.8).  The Southampton portion of the district went to Obama by 13.9.  The combination of the two went to McCain by 4 in a district Obama won by 4.  So Bishop picked up about 100 votes with the areas counted being a few points more GOP than the rest of the district.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 18, 2010, 09:33:12 PM
Supposedly Altschuler's lead is down to 90-odd votes in NY-01. Only source is Newsday, which of course has a paywall.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 18, 2010, 10:10:19 PM
Altschuler challenged the legitimacy of absentee ballots cast by Tim Bishop's elderly parents.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 18, 2010, 10:11:52 PM
Supposedly Altschuler's lead is down to 90-odd votes in NY-01. Only source is Newsday, which of course has a paywall.

Paywall doesn't exist for me anymore for some reason.

Anyway Bishop is up 90 votes.  All of Smithtown and Southampton have been counted.  18 of the 19 ED's in Southold have been counted, 17 of the 19 in East Hampton, 3 of 22 in Riverhead.  The remaining 19 in Riverhead, the four in Shelter Island and the 294 in Brookhaven remain to be counted.  

 Bishop has picked up about 300 votes on Altschuler so far with about 1/3 of the absentees counted.  Generally both the most Republican and most Democratic areas have been counted.  

 What remains to be counted is probably slightly more Democratic than what has been counted so far, (though considering the higher concentration of absentees in East Hampton and Southampton, what remains might be slightly more GOP than was counted).  Either way what remains to be counted compared to what has already been counted likely won't benefit any side more than a minimal amount.

 Considering Bishop has picked up 300 votes so far, based off the fact 2/3 of absentees are left, and the areas that remain to be counted, Bishop will likely win.   Also Altschuler's camp has challenged more ballots than Bishop (486-318) the challenged ballots are not reflected in the 90 vote lead.  The challenge ballots by the Altschuler camp include absentees by Bishop's parents.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 19, 2010, 12:05:47 AM
If Bishop wins, and the Pubbie prevails in NY-25, which is still quite likely, but a bit more problematical than it was (the Dems have done well with the absentee ballots in Syracuse, and slashed the Pubbies lead substantially, but a third of what remains to be counted is from heavily GOP Wayne), my 63 seat "prediction" of Pubbie gains will be well, exactly right. :)  Pity about NY-1 though from my perspective. The Pubbie seems like someone "we" need.

Great analysis Smash in any event. Thanks.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 12:15:03 AM
If Bishop wins, and the Pubbie prevails in NY-25, which is still quite likely, but a bit more problematical than it was (the Dems have done well with the absentee ballots in Syracuse, and slashed the Pubbies lead substantially, but a third of what remains to be counted is from heavily GOP Wayne), my 63 seat "prediction" of Pubbie gains will be well, exactly right. :)  Pity about NY-1 though from my perspective. The Pubbie seems like someone "we" need.

Great analysis Smash in any event. Thanks.

An outsourcing millionaire is someone the GOP needs??


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 19, 2010, 12:36:21 AM
If Bishop wins, and the Pubbie prevails in NY-25, which is still quite likely, but a bit more problematical than it was (the Dems have done well with the absentee ballots in Syracuse, and slashed the Pubbies lead substantially, but a third of what remains to be counted is from heavily GOP Wayne), my 63 seat "prediction" of Pubbie gains will be well, exactly right. :)  Pity about NY-1 though from my perspective. The Pubbie seems like someone "we" need.

Great analysis Smash in any event. Thanks.

An outsourcing millionaire is someone the GOP needs??

Well, if Bishop loses, Alec Baldwin claims he will run in 2012.  A Hollyweird moron running for the Democrats Is something Pubbies need - though I doubt that's what Torie was thinking.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 12:43:56 AM
If Bishop wins, and the Pubbie prevails in NY-25, which is still quite likely, but a bit more problematical than it was (the Dems have done well with the absentee ballots in Syracuse, and slashed the Pubbies lead substantially, but a third of what remains to be counted is from heavily GOP Wayne), my 63 seat "prediction" of Pubbie gains will be well, exactly right. :)  Pity about NY-1 though from my perspective. The Pubbie seems like someone "we" need.

Great analysis Smash in any event. Thanks.

An outsourcing millionaire is someone the GOP needs??

Well, if Bishop loses, Alec Baldwin claims he will run in 2012.  A Hollyweird moron running for the Democrats Is something Pubbies need - though I doubt that's what Torie was thinking.

Baldwin graduated high school where I went to Junior High (the district use to have two high schools, but went to one during the 80's, the h.s Baldwin went to became the Jr High)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
As of earlier today it is now 81 vote Altschuler lead.  East Hampton and Southold were finished, absentees from two additional districts in Riverhead were counted (now 5 of 22), 1 of 4 in Shelter Island were counted.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 05:15:22 PM
Its now a 45 vote lead according to Newsday as the count moves towards Brookhaven.

Of the areas in which the absentees have been counted, Altschuler won the election day count 50.49-49.45, Bishop won the election day count  Brookhaven 50.11-49.82.  Brookhaven is by far the largest of the towns in the district  (made up 62.62% of the election day ballots) has about 5,000 absentee ballots

Edit.  A few sources are reporting Altschuler's lead is 30 votes as the Brookhaven count starts.  Also Altchuler has so far challenged 211 more ballots than Bishop (the challenged ballots have yet to be counted).  Its not known who the challenged votes are for, but age, party affiliation and residence are known.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/#comments


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Niemeyerite on November 19, 2010, 05:53:39 PM
Bishop wins, hopefully =)

I've heard etheridge will concede =/. but ellmers will be very vulnerable in 2012 ;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 19, 2010, 07:41:38 PM
Bishop wins, hopefully =)

I've heard etheridge will concede =/. but ellmers will be very vulnerable in 2012 ;)

What, after the disgusting Democratic gerrymander is replaced by a disgusting Republican one? Hah.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 07:59:03 PM
According to a tweet from Reid Epstein of Newsday, Bishop is now up by 15 votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 19, 2010, 08:49:29 PM
Bishop wins, hopefully =)

I've heard etheridge will concede =/. but ellmers will be very vulnerable in 2012 ;)

What, after the disgusting Democratic gerrymander is replaced by a disgusting Republican one? Hah.

I dont see why the Democratic legislature in NC doesnt quickly pass a law that gives the governor a veto over redistricting in the lame duck session.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 19, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
Bishop wins, hopefully =)

I've heard etheridge will concede =/. but ellmers will be very vulnerable in 2012 ;)

What, after the disgusting Democratic gerrymander is replaced by a disgusting Republican one? Hah.

I dont see why the Democratic legislature in NC doesnt quickly pass a law that gives the governor a veto over redistricting in the lame duck session.

Are they in session?  If they do that, I would suggest the Pubbies get rid of some inconvenient laws regarding district drawing in Pennsylvania and Michigan. The rules are crimping my style, as I struggle to effect an effective gerrymander that won't be ruled illegal. Particularly irritating are these trapped Pubbie votes in a black district in the Gross Pointes in Michigan that I can't get at, and I need them to fully realize my evil designs. It's tough!  :)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 19, 2010, 09:04:37 PM
Bishop wins, hopefully =)

I've heard etheridge will concede =/. but ellmers will be very vulnerable in 2012 ;)

What, after the disgusting Democratic gerrymander is replaced by a disgusting Republican one? Hah.

I dont see why the Democratic legislature in NC doesnt quickly pass a law that gives the governor a veto over redistricting in the lame duck session.

Are they in session?  If they do that, I would suggest the Pubbies get rid of some inconvenient laws regarding district drawing in Pennsylvania and Michigan. The rules are crimping my style, as I struggle to effect an effective gerrymander that won't be ruled illegal. Particularly irritating are these trapped Pubbie votes in a black district in the Gross Pointes in Michigan that I can't get it, and I need them to fully realize my evil designs. It's tough!  :)

I dont think there are any rules in Pennsylvania. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 19, 2010, 09:04:54 PM
Its now a 45 vote lead according to Newsday as the count moves towards Brookhaven.

Of the areas in which the absentees have been counted, Altschuler won the election day count 50.49-49.45, Bishop won the election day count  Brookhaven 50.11-49.82.  Brookhaven is by far the largest of the towns in the district  (made up 62.62% of the election day ballots) has about 5,000 absentee ballots

Edit.  A few sources are reporting Altschuler's lead is 30 votes as the Brookhaven count starts.  Also Altchuler has so far challenged 211 more ballots than Bishop (the challenged ballots have yet to be counted).  Its not known who the challenged votes are for, but age, party affiliation and residence are known.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/#comments


Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.

And yes, there are rules in PA, or at least a supposedly independent commission of some sort, or both. And PA "needs" a really good gerrymander. I did a number on Pittsburgh, with the CD following rust belt, burnt out steel mill river valleys that are like the tentacles of an octopus. It's just an awesome work of art, that should be hung in a prestigious museum. If the Dems change the rules in one state, that to me is something on the order of a declaration of war.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: nclib on November 19, 2010, 09:42:06 PM
Bishop wins, hopefully =)

I've heard etheridge will concede =/. but ellmers will be very vulnerable in 2012 ;)

What, after the disgusting Democratic gerrymander is replaced by a disgusting Republican one? Hah.

I dont see why the Democratic legislature in NC doesnt quickly pass a law that gives the governor a veto over redistricting in the lame duck session.

Good idea, but unfortunately our legislature is not in session.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 19, 2010, 09:57:38 PM
Quote
Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.
 
Still uncounted are Brookhaven and Riverhead --two Republican townships, and there are more registered republicans who took absentee ballots than there were democrats. The feeling here is Bishop had to do better than he did in his hometown of Southampton, and better than he has in East Hampton, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. I predict Randy by 800 votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 19, 2010, 10:12:18 PM
Quote
Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.
 
Still uncounted are Brookhaven and Riverhead --two Republican townships, and there are more registered republicans who took absentee ballots than there were democrats. The feeling here is Bishop had to do better than he did in his hometown of Southampton, and better than he has in East Hampton, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. I predict Randy by 800 votes.


The Pubbie's performance among absentees in Smithtown sucked, and that is the most GOP township in Suffolk within NY-1 of all. The A man has underperformed  among absentees so far in every township counted. Just an observation, and that is why I agree with Smash, that the A man is on the ropes. It is still a bit early to call this race, but his chances of winning are now in single digits in my opinion.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 19, 2010, 10:47:17 PM
Looks like Tim Bishop got an early shipment of Four Loko!!

http://www.capitaltonight.com/2010/11/bishop-up-by-15/


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 19, 2010, 10:49:21 PM
Quote
Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.
 
Still uncounted are Brookhaven and Riverhead --two Republican townships, and there are more registered republicans who took absentee ballots than there were democrats. The feeling here is Bishop had to do better than he did in his hometown of Southampton, and better than he has in East Hampton, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. I predict Randy by 800 votes.


Riverhead has already been counted. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
Quote
Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.
 
Still uncounted are Brookhaven and Riverhead --two Republican townships, and there are more registered republicans who took absentee ballots than there were democrats. The feeling here is Bishop had to do better than he did in his hometown of Southampton, and better than he has in East Hampton, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. I predict Randy by 800 votes.


Riverhead has been counted.   Some of Brookhaven has been counted, but most still remains (41 of 294 ED's).  Everything else has been counted.

Bishop won Brookhaven narrowly on Election Day (50.11-49.82).

As far as more registered Republican absentees than Democrats.  That is true, but the GOP registration advantage with the absentees is actually smaller than the GOP registration advantage in the district. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 19, 2010, 11:08:57 PM
It looks like the Pubbie has finally nailed down (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/your_comments_looks_like_ann_m.html) NY-25, so it looks like +63 seats for the Pubbies. I am a genius. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 19, 2010, 11:10:08 PM
It looks like the Pubbie has finally nailed down (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/your_comments_looks_like_ann_m.html) NY-25, so it looks like +63 seats for the Pubbies. I am a genius. :P

Yeah, it seems that NY-01 is your biggest potential foil, and that one is drifting D (like a glacier though).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Mr.Phips on November 19, 2010, 11:11:06 PM
Quote
Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.
 
Still uncounted are Brookhaven and Riverhead --two Republican townships, and there are more registered republicans who took absentee ballots than there were democrats. The feeling here is Bishop had to do better than he did in his hometown of Southampton, and better than he has in East Hampton, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. I predict Randy by 800 votes.


Riverhead has been counted.   Some of Brookhaven has been counted, but most still remains (41 of 294 ED's).  Everything else has been counted.

Bishop won Brookhaven narrowly on Election Day (50.11-49.82).

As far as more registered Republican absentees than Democrats.  That is true, but the GOP registration advantage with the absentees is actually smaller than the GOP registration advantage in the district. 

If that's the case, Bishop should come out ahead by 25 votes. 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 19, 2010, 11:13:50 PM
It looks like the Pubbie has finally nailed down (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/your_comments_looks_like_ann_m.html) NY-25, so it looks like +63 seats for the Pubbies. I am a genius. :P

Yeah, it seems that NY-01 is your biggest potential foil, and that one is drifting D (like a glacier though).

God loves me. :P


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 19, 2010, 11:31:39 PM
Quote
Here (http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton/312923/BISHOP-CAMP-SAYS-ALTSCHULERS-LEAD-SHRINKS-TO-138-VOTES) is a good source of up to the minute reporting of the count in NY-1.  And yes, it does look like the Pubbie is about done for.
 
Still uncounted are Brookhaven and Riverhead --two Republican townships, and there are more registered republicans who took absentee ballots than there were democrats. The feeling here is Bishop had to do better than he did in his hometown of Southampton, and better than he has in East Hampton, which is 2 to 1 Democrat. I predict Randy by 800 votes.


Riverhead has been counted.   Some of Brookhaven has been counted, but most still remains (41 of 294 ED's).  Everything else has been counted.

Bishop won Brookhaven narrowly on Election Day (50.11-49.82).

As far as more registered Republican absentees than Democrats.  That is true, but the GOP registration advantage with the absentees is actually smaller than the GOP registration advantage in the district.  

If that's the case, Bishop should come out ahead by 25 votes.  

I would say quite a bit more than that, my guess would be 250-300 or so.  On top of that you also have the challenged ballots (which have yet to be counted).  Altschuler has challenged over 200 more ballots than Bishop.

 The absentees were more Democratic than the district as a whole.  Granted we don't know which precincts in Brookhaven were already counted, but out of those the 41 that were Bishop picked up 45 votes over Altschuler.   The areas outside of Brookhaven went to Altschuler by a shade under 1% on Election Day, but as far as the absentees, Bishop picked up about 350 votes on Altschuler.  62.6% of the Election Day ballots were cast in Brookhaven, the absentees were probably a little less than that.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 19, 2010, 11:41:49 PM
For the last week and a half, the only race that's been up in the air is NY-1, as I remarked a few days ago.  The rest is just noise... :P

I agree with the analysis though - Bishop should win.  And we still have to wait for the California guys and Ortiz to come to their senses.  NY-25 was perhaps a 1 in 100 turnaround but not if only Wayne County absentees are left - that horse is out of the barn.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 20, 2010, 07:01:05 AM
There goes my hope for  Bishop win in the single digits. :(

Oh, and Torie: Blind chick. Grain.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 21, 2010, 09:09:05 PM
Buerkle ends up with a 567-vote lead after all the votes have been counted. (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/buerkle_increase_lead_over_maf.html)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 21, 2010, 09:17:04 PM
Buerkle ends up with a 567-vote lead after all the votes have been counted. (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/buerkle_increase_lead_over_maf.html)

With only 240 challenged ballots left outstanding, it's hard to see how Buerkle can lose this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 21, 2010, 11:20:02 PM
I welcome any help on this spredsheet.  I seem to have one House Republican too many recorded.  

I'm assuming that CA-11, CA-20, and NY-1 end up Democratic and NY-25 and TX-27 end up in the GOP column.

Here is the spreadsheet:  http://members.cox.net/rbt48/weather/Presidential_Elections/2010_Elections_Cong_Gov.pdf (http://members.cox.net/rbt48/weather/Presidential_Elections/2010_Elections_Cong_Gov.pdf)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 21, 2010, 11:39:27 PM
I welcome any help on this spredsheet.  I seem to have one House Republican too many recorded.  

I'm assuming that CA-11, CA-20, and NY-1 end up Democratic and NY-25 and TX-27 end up in the GOP column.

Here is the spreadsheet:  http://members.cox.net/rbt48/weather/Presidential_Elections/2010_Elections_Cong_Gov.pdf (http://members.cox.net/rbt48/weather/Presidential_Elections/2010_Elections_Cong_Gov.pdf)

IN-03 is throwing you off. You're counting it as a pick-up.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 22, 2010, 04:21:41 AM
Delaware went Democratic in 2010. I think that's the error in question.

Also, in Alabama and Hawaii you're not listing 2008 but rather the immediate pre-election. But I suppose that's not so much an error as simply a misleading column title. That would also arguably explain your Indiana "error" as IN-3 was vacant immediately before the election. (I could scroll down to New York to verify my assumptions, I suppose, but I'll stop here. It's probably Delaware that threw you off.)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 22, 2010, 10:58:44 AM
Delaware went Democratic in 2010. I think that's the error in question.

Also, in Alabama and Hawaii you're not listing 2008 but rather the immediate pre-election. But I suppose that's not so much an error as simply a misleading column title. That would also arguably explain your Indiana "error" as IN-3 was vacant immediately before the election. (I could scroll down to New York to verify my assumptions, I suppose, but I'll stop here. It's probably Delaware that threw you off.)

Thanks.  Yes, I blew it on Delaware. 

Also bad were my column titles.  I meant to show immediate pre-election rather than 2008.  I do appreciate the help from Meeker and Slightly Cross Brigade.   I'll get it fixed tonight as I don't have access from my office.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 22, 2010, 12:48:51 PM
Bouncing around a bit so far today.

I was about to post the update from this morning that showed Altshuler going back in front and taking a 9 or 10 point lead, but the last update came through and now Bishop is ahead by 16 or 17  (Bishop camps says 17, Altschuler 16).

Altschuler's camp has said that Bishop is challenging the ballot of the mother of Brookhaven GOP Chairman Jesse Garcia.  Previously the Altschuler camp challenged the ballots of Tim Bishop's parents as well as the son of outgoing State Senator Brian Foley.  As of Friday, Altschuler challenged 212 more ballots than Bishop.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-bishop-now-ahead-by-16-or-17-1.2486389


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 22, 2010, 03:54:34 PM
Bishop is now up 69 votes, and Altschuler has continued to challenge even more ballots than Bishop.  Was 212 more on Friday, is 262 now (864-602).  108 of the 294 districts in Brookhaven remain to be counted.   3,683 ballots remain to be counted, the GOP has a 2.88% registration edge  The 2.88% edge on registration is less than the district advantage (6%) and less than the 3.45% advantage the GOP had with the overall absentee count.


http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-bishop-s-lead-grows-to-69-votes-1.2487067


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 22, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
So NY-1 might stay Democratic?  NY-25 looks Republican.

The two CA districts are Democratic and the TX coastal district is Republican.  Final is:

R  242

D  193

GOP gain, from 2008, is +64.  Democratic loss, from 2008, is -63.

GOP numbers off of post 1978 high is +10.  Democratic numbers are off post 1978 low -13.  In the Senate, both parties are off post 1978 highs and lows.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 22, 2010, 04:17:53 PM
So NY-1 might stay Democratic?  NY-25 looks Republican.

The two CA districts are Democratic and the TX coastal district is Republican.  Final is:

R  242

D  193

GOP gain, from 2008, is +64.  Democratic loss, from 2008, is -63.

GOP numbers off of post 1978 high is +10.  Democratic numbers are off post 1978 low -13.  In the Senate, both parties are off post 1978 highs and lows.

Yeah NY-01 will likely stay Dem.  Based off what is left, the results of what has been counted, etc my guess is Bishop will be up roughly 250-300 or so when the absentee count is complete, and will likely add a few hundred more when the challenged ballots are dealt with.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: xavier110 on November 22, 2010, 06:01:58 PM
Phew! We surely dodged a bullet there with Altschuler.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 22, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
According to Twitter Bishop now up 137 votes.  2,907 absentee ballots remain to be counted (no word yet on party breakout) also another 1,588 ballots have been challenged (Altschuler had  challenged about 260 more as of the previous update)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 22, 2010, 08:13:09 PM
Bishop up 206 votes with the counting ended for the day.  125 election districts left to count with a total of 1,912 absentee ballots left to count according to a Bishop spokesperson (no word yet on the political breakdown of those absentees).  Altschuler also continued to challenge more ballots than Bishop (1,051-714)

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-bishop-ends-day-up-206-votes-1.2487842?showAll=true


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 22, 2010, 09:52:27 PM
So Ortiz finally conceded...

http://www.rollcall.com/news/-200857-1.html


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 23, 2010, 12:12:36 AM
Okay GOP at 241, officially, and unofficially, 242.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 23, 2010, 03:49:55 AM
Remind us lazies which ones have yet to be called.  :)

Also, is the GOP ahead in one or two of the remaining races?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 23, 2010, 03:57:07 AM
Remind us lazies which ones have yet to be called.  :)

Also, is the GOP ahead in one or two of the remaining races?

Ahead in NY-25

down in CA-11, CA-20 and NY-1


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Meeker on November 23, 2010, 04:11:14 AM
NY-25, CA-11 and CA-20 are over even if the AP won't call them for whatever reason. NY-01 is the only one truly still up in the air (and only barely so).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 23, 2010, 08:23:18 AM
It looks like the last few ballots were counted in CA-20 (Kern County), but they're not up on the state website yet. It netted Costa about 100 votes.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 23, 2010, 02:18:38 PM
Numbers slightly differ from each spokesman.  Bishop's spokesman has him up 206 votes, while Altschuler's spokesman has him up 217 votes.   736 ballots left to count.

Also the challenged ballots continue to explode on Altschuler's side.   Altschuler has challenged more than 100 more ballots from early today alone than Bishop has including all 31 affidavit ballots from my alma matter, Stony Brook University.   Altschuler has now challenged 1,150 ballots compared to 720 ballots Bishop has challenged.


http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-bishop-up-206-or-217-altschuler-running-low-on-time-1.2489526?showAll=true


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 23, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
NY-25, CA-11 and CA-20 are over even if the AP won't call them for whatever reason. NY-01 is the only one truly still up in the air (and only barely so).

Maffei just conceded (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/dan_maffeis_options_in_new_yor.html).  The AP will undoubtedly call NY-25 as a Republican pickup now.  

That leaves CA-11, CA-20 and NY-01.  It's pretty clear all three will remain with the Democrats when the counting is completed.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 23, 2010, 03:15:37 PM
Counting is now complete in NY-01.   Bishop is up 235 votes according to Bishop's spokesman 234 according to Altschuler's.

2,051 contested absentee and affidavit ballots still need to be resolved and a hearing will be held next Tuesday for them.    1,261 of those ballots were challenged by Altschuler, 790 challenged by Bishop.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-counting-over-in-suffolk-bishop-leads-by-235-1.2490040


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 23, 2010, 06:42:55 PM
AP calls CA-20 for Costa. (http://twitter.com/JWilliamsAP/status/7184158497439744)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:02:35 PM
So, assuming CA-11 and NY-1 stay w/ Dems, we can summarize the results by region as follows (only for races run this time):

Pacific West (CA, WA, OR, HI, AK):

Senate
4 D (no change)
1 I-R (+1, I am using a liebermanian-style moniker for Murkowski)
0 R (-1)

House
D 45 (no change from pre-election, -1 from 2008)
R 26 (no change from pre-election, +1 from 2008)

Governors (for completeness)
D 3 (+2)
R 1 (-2)

The Pacific West was a place onto its own :))) Dems didn't loose anything


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:08:21 PM
Mountain West (ID, MT, NV, CO, UT, AZ, NM, WY):

Senate:
3 R (no change)
2 D (no change)

House
18 R (+6)
10 D (-6)

Governorships
6 R (+2)
1 D (-2)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:16:35 PM
"Western Midwest", including Plains (ND, SD, NE, KS, MN, IA, MO):

Senate:
5 R (+1)
0 D (-1)

House
21 R (+5)
9 D (-5)

Governorships
4 R (no change, assuming Dayton wins)
1 R (no change, assuming Dayton wins)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
"Eastern Midwest" (MI, WI, IL, IN, OH)

Senate
5 R (+3)
0 D (-3)

House
44 R (+16)
25 D (-16)
 
Governorships
3 R (+3)
1 D (-3)



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 23, 2010, 08:25:07 PM
Please continue.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
"Broad Northeast" (New England, NY, NJ, PA, WV, MD, DE)

Senate
7 D (-1)
2 R (+1)

House
63 D (-15)
32 R (+15)

Governorships:
6 D (no change)
2 R (-1)
1 I (+1)

Including New England (MA, CT, RI, ME, NH, VT)

Senate
2 D (no change)
1 R (no change)

House
20 D (-2)
2 R (+2)

Governorships
4 D (+1)
1 R (-2)
1 I (+1)

Big losses for Dems in broader region, but, still, overwelming dominance in most places. Interestingly, Northeastern Dem losses are comparable to the Midwestern losses in the House. But the overall dominance ensures that nothing similar happened at the state-wide elections.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:50:21 PM
"Outer South" (which I shall, somewhat voluntaristically define as TX, OK, AR, KY, TN, VA, NC, VA and FL)

Senate
5 R (+1)
0 D (-1)

House
74 R (+16)
31 D (-16)

Governorships
4 R (+3 compared w/ pre-election, +2 compared w/ last election)
1 D (-2)
0 I (-1 compared w/ pre-election, no change compared w/ last election)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
Inner South (SC, GA, MS, AL, LA)

Senate
4 R (no change)

House
28 R (+5)
9 D (-5)

Governorships
3 R (no change)

Not much is left that Republicans can additionally squeeze here even in a good year. In fact, other than in Georgia Dems are everywhere down to the required "black" district.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 08:57:40 PM
I'd need to check the numbers, but overall the picture is clear. There has been no change in the Pacific West. Mountain West and the Midwest are swing areas. Northeast still gives Republicans a chance in a good year (though not much chance in New England). Broad South is finishing its transformation, and nothing's left to transform in the Core South.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 23, 2010, 09:27:58 PM
"Eastern Midwest" (MI, WI, IL, IN, OH)

Senate
5 R (+3)
0 D (-3)

House
44 R (+16)
25 D (-16)
 
Governorships
3 R (+3)
1 D (-3)



Adding IA, MN and MO, what would be the numbers (I call that the "Heartland").


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 10:54:29 PM
Adding IA, MN and MO, what would be the numbers (I call that the "Heartland").

Senate
2 R (no change in seats contested this time)

House
12 R (+2)
9 D (-2)

Governorships
1 D (assuming Dayton holds in MN, a Dem pick-up)
1 R (a Rep pick-up in IA)

Not much change, in fact: Dems lost a seat in MN and another in MO, and an exchange of governorships, but nothing more serious.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 23, 2010, 11:12:06 PM
Dems now hold majorities in House delegations from WA, OR, CA, HI, NM, IA, NC, MD, DE, NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI, VT, ME.  DE was previously R, HI was tied

MN is a tie (was D)

The rest are majority R. NV, AZ, CO, ND, SD, WI, IL, OH, MI, IN, PA, VA, WV, AR used to be majority D, ID and TN used to be tied.

Single-party house delegations:

All-Dem - 7 states: MA (10), CT (5), ME (2), RI (2), HI (2), VT (1), DE (1).
All-GOP - 8 states: KS (4), NE (3), NH (2), ID (2), MT (1), AK (1), ND (1), WY (1). 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 23, 2010, 11:18:21 PM
They finally called CA-20 for Costa (D) and CA AG race for Harris (D). For whatever reason they're not calling CA-11 for McNerney (D) yet. NY-01 and CA-11 are the 2 unresolved races. If they stay Democratic, the Republicans gained 66 seats and lost 3 for a net gain of 63.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 23, 2010, 11:40:17 PM
Michael Barone's ethno-geographic take on the mid-term election results:
In 2010 sweep, even the Finns voted Republican (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2010/11/2010-sweep-even-finns-voted-republican)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 23, 2010, 11:42:12 PM
Questions about the 2010 elections (answers are welcome):

1.  What House candidate (and name the district and number of votes) corralled the largest number of votes?
2.  What (at this point) is the narrowest margin of victory in a House race?
3.  What is the latest tally for H of R popular votes, nationwide, by party?
4.  What was the most surprising Republican victory in the H of R (opinion)?
5.  What was the most surprising Democratic victory in the H of R (opinion)?
6.  What was the most surprising Republican victory in the Senate (opinion)?
7.  What was the most surprising Democratic victory in the Senate (opinion)?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 23, 2010, 11:56:54 PM
Just to make sure the record is clear, Pat Toomey is now at 52% of the vote to Sestak's 48% - http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2 (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2)

;)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 24, 2010, 12:20:04 AM
Just to make sure the record is clear, Pat Toomey is now at 52% of the vote to Sestak's 48% - http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2 (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2)

;)

It is indeed refreshing to see that a Republican's margin of victory can actually grow with the counting of absentee and provisional ballots.

Personally, I'm glad to see that Adm Sestak will get to live on his military pension and not move onto the US Senate.  From what I gathered of how ruthlessly he worked his staffers, perhaps they are not all that sad as well.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 24, 2010, 12:29:40 AM
I don't know that these results include the absentee and provisional ballots though. There are still precincts that have yet to report. They might be from those areas.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 24, 2010, 01:00:30 AM
Toomey's margin of victory is now greater than that of Specter's in 1980 (GOP wave year) and 1992 and Santorum's in 1994 (GOP wave year).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Verily on November 24, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
Michael Barone's ethno-geographic take on the mid-term election results:
In 2010 sweep, even the Finns voted Republican (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2010/11/2010-sweep-even-finns-voted-republican)

Once he gets down to the ethnic part of it, his analysis stinks. Hispanics voting only "narrowly" Democratic in Texas? Try looking at the gubernatorial results again. Hispanic turnout just sucks in off years, so they got outvoted in seats that are drawn to only just barely favor their preferred candidates. Finns "voted Republican"? Look at the county breakdown of MN-08. Hint: The Finnish areas voted for Oberstar overwhelmingly, as usual. But, again, they were outvoted.

His analysis is like looking at Sanford Bishop's seat and wondering why blacks nearly voted for a Republican.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 24, 2010, 01:14:23 AM
Adding IA, MN and MO, what would be the numbers (I call that the "Heartland").

Senate
2 R (no change in seats contested this time)

House
12 R (+2)
9 D (-2)

Governorships
1 D (assuming Dayton holds in MN, a Dem pick-up)
1 R (a Rep pick-up in IA)

Not much change, in fact: Dems lost a seat in MN and another in MO, and an exchange of governorships, but nothing more serious.


+18 R seats in that region might be very significant.  Thanks for the calculation.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 24, 2010, 01:25:49 AM
Just to make sure the record is clear, Pat Toomey is now at 52% of the vote to Sestak's 48% - http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2 (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2)

;)

What happened with Westmoreland?

Westmoreland County

Candidate Votes Percent
SESTAK, JOE (DEM)   
 8,338 9.9%
TOOMEY, PAT (REP)   
 76,002 90.1%


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 24, 2010, 01:29:02 AM
Just to make sure the record is clear, Pat Toomey is now at 52% of the vote to Sestak's 48% - http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2 (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2)

;)

What happened with Westmoreland?

Westmoreland County

Candidate Votes Percent
SESTAK, JOE (DEM)  
 8,338 9.9%
TOOMEY, PAT (REP)  
 76,002 90.1%


Hahaha, as Republican as Westmoreland county might be trending, we obviously didn't hit 90% there. I'm guessing there was a glitch. This would explain what I didn't notice before: Sestak's overall vote total dropped so Toomey might not really be at 52%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 24, 2010, 01:45:29 AM
Just to make sure the record is clear, Pat Toomey is now at 52% of the vote to Sestak's 48% - http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2 (http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=39&OfficeID=2)

;)

What happened with Westmoreland?

Westmoreland County

Candidate Votes Percent
SESTAK, JOE (DEM)  
 8,338 9.9%
TOOMEY, PAT (REP)  
 76,002 90.1%


Hahaha, as Republican as Westmoreland county might be trending, we obviously didn't hit 90% there. I'm guessing there was a glitch. This would explain what I didn't notice before: Sestak's overall vote total dropped so Toomey might not really be at 52%.

Toomey had 61% in Westmoreland, the last I checked.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 24, 2010, 01:50:50 AM
Current Atlas info

Pat Toomey Republican 73,265 60.91%
 Joe Sestak Democratic 47,016 39.09%

So add 38,000 to Sestaks

That gives you 48.9% for Sestak and 51.1% for Toomey. 2.2% margin.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 24, 2010, 01:53:13 AM
I checked Westmoreland county's count on their website. Toomey's lead increased but by few tenths of a percent or so, picking up about 2,800 votes. I have no idea what they were doing at the Department of State.

I'm checking some of the county results and it looks like Toomey is picking up votes but I'm not sure that he'll hit 52%.  :(


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 24, 2010, 02:28:23 AM
Ok, here's what they did: for whatever reason, they took 40,000 votes from Sestak in Westmoreland county. Add those 40,000 back to his total and he's up to 1,930,615 to Toomey's 2,012,686.

I went through some other counties and noticed the absentee and provisional ballots were counted. I don't think this is the case everywhere though because when you look at the new numbers, Toomey only picked up about 12,000 votes while Sestak picked up about 9,000. There were at least 66,000 absentee ballots returned as of October 20th. They are obviously going to break strongly in Toomey's favor (as of October 20th, 57% of returned ballots were from Republicans, 37% were from Democrats and 6% were from all others).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 24, 2010, 08:27:54 AM
1.  What House candidate (and name the district and number of votes) corralled the largest number of votes? Jim Sensenbrenner in WI-05 got over 227,000 votes.

2.  What (at this point) is the narrowest margin of victory in a House race? - NY-01, where Bishop is currently up by 200-ish votes.

3.  What is the latest tally for H of R popular votes, nationwide, by party? - I have no idea.

4.  What was the most surprising Republican victory in the H of R (opinion)? - Michael Grimm in NY-13. Even the ones that weren't on my list (IL-08, NY-25, TX-27) weren't as surprising as this one.

5.  What was the most surprising Democratic victory in the H of R (opinion)? - Probably Jim Costa in CA-20 or Kurt Schrader in OR-05, as SUSA said they were both going down by 10 points.

6.  What was the most surprising Republican victory in the Senate (opinion)? - I guess Lisa Murkowski, I figured Miller would win.

7.  What was the most surprising Democratic victory in the Senate (opinion)? - Harry Reid and Michael Bennet were both surprises to me, those are the only ones I got wrong on the Dem side.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 24, 2010, 08:28:44 AM
McNerney's lead has gone up to about 2,500 votes. There's little reason for this one not to be called at this point.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on November 24, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
So California experienced a wave election and 0 seats changed hands?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 24, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
So California experienced a wave election and 0 seats changed hands?

Dems actually picked up the governorship and a seat in the state legislature, I believe, but that's pretty much it :))) Simply put: California didn't experience a wave election.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 24, 2010, 10:40:38 AM
So California experienced a wave election and 0 seats changed hands?

Dems actually picked up the governorship and a seat in the state legislature, I believe, but that's pretty much it :))) Simply put: California didn't experience a wave election.

Just FYI, in the national races (Senate and House), the swing was roughly 1/2 to 2/3rds (more towards the 1/2 level) of the national swing from 2008 to 2010.  That's not enough to change much based on the prior margins.  Same thing occurred in New England (outside NH, where swings were greater than the national swing)


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 24, 2010, 02:28:59 PM
So California experienced a wave election and 0 seats changed hands?

Dems actually picked up the governorship and a seat in the state legislature, I believe, but that's pretty much it :))) Simply put: California didn't experience a wave election.

Just FYI, in the national races (Senate and House), the swing was roughly 1/2 to 2/3rds (more towards the 1/2 level) of the national swing from 2008 to 2010.  That's not enough to change much based on the prior margins.  Same thing occurred in New England (outside NH, where swings were greater than the national swing)

I know, I know :))) But it's not a wave - and it's not enough to shift anything in areas so dominated by the Dems.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2010, 03:11:14 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Niemeyerite on November 24, 2010, 03:13:45 PM
I loved that wave in california. proably in 2012 we could actually pick up some republican seats in the house.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 24, 2010, 03:45:51 PM
Michael Barone's ethno-geographic take on the mid-term election results:
In 2010 sweep, even the Finns voted Republican (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2010/11/2010-sweep-even-finns-voted-republican)

Once he gets down to the ethnic part of it, his analysis stinks. Hispanics voting only "narrowly" Democratic in Texas? Try looking at the gubernatorial results again. Hispanic turnout just sucks in off years, so they got outvoted in seats that are drawn to only just barely favor their preferred candidates. Finns "voted Republican"? Look at the county breakdown of MN-08. Hint: The Finnish areas voted for Oberstar overwhelmingly, as usual. But, again, they were outvoted.

His analysis is like looking at Sanford Bishop's seat and wondering why blacks nearly voted for a Republican.

Why is Barone held in such high regard? Recently at least he always seems to be wrong, or makes up things to suit his partisan fantasies. I also remember he had a horrible, horrible analysis of the Clinton-Obama primary results.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 24, 2010, 04:09:51 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

The problem for the Republicans in California, and this was especially true for the statewide races, was that the few blue collar whites left in the state didn't swing hard Republican. Republicans experienced a nice wave among the upper middle class, as results from OC make quite clear. But the swing the Republicans needed amongst blue collar folks, that happened basically everywhere in the country, just didn't occur here.

 And you can't blame it entirely on demographic changes either. Look at the Central Valley results for Brown. Obviously he didn't do that well just due to the Hispanic vote (who voted more heavily for Boxer according to exit polls). So Brown must have done quite well amongst lower income whites in this state, while Whitman did better amongst minorities. And she could have done even better if it wasn't for the illegal housekeeper controversy. In fact if minorities voted for Brown at the same rate as Boxer, he would have won by about 15-16 points. But why didn't Whitman do better amongst those blue collar whites in the Central Valley and the IE? I understand why she did better with minorities (because she actually asked for their vote), but what happened with the blue collar white vote? That is what I find most surprising about this election.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 24, 2010, 04:22:03 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

Which is why Republicans were swept into unprecedented victories here in Massachusetts.

(Granted, that did happen in the Senate special, but certainly not in the general).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on November 24, 2010, 04:24:45 PM
Michael Barone's ethno-geographic take on the mid-term election results:
In 2010 sweep, even the Finns voted Republican (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2010/11/2010-sweep-even-finns-voted-republican)

Once he gets down to the ethnic part of it, his analysis stinks. Hispanics voting only "narrowly" Democratic in Texas? Try looking at the gubernatorial results again. Hispanic turnout just sucks in off years, so they got outvoted in seats that are drawn to only just barely favor their preferred candidates. Finns "voted Republican"? Look at the county breakdown of MN-08. Hint: The Finnish areas voted for Oberstar overwhelmingly, as usual. But, again, they were outvoted.

His analysis is like looking at Sanford Bishop's seat and wondering why blacks nearly voted for a Republican.

While it is true that many of the most Finnish counties in the Lake Superior CDs still went Democratic, the Democrats' overall margin was down from Obama's in 2008.  For example, in Minnesota, Cook County voted 60-37 for Obama but only 55-40 for Oberstar; Lake County 60-38 for Obama and only 55-42 for Oberstar; Saint Louis County 65-33 for Obama and 57-40 Oberstar; and Carlton County 62-36 Obama and 54-43 Oberstar. 

At least in the current draft of the article, Barone said Texas Hispanics voted "mildly" Democratic, not "narrowly" Democratic.  Mildly is in the eye of the beholder - but according to the Texas Gubernatorial Exit Poll (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010_Elections/Texas?ep=gov_tx), Texas Hispanics voted 61-38 for Democrat White.  In comparison, African-American Texans voted 88-11% for the Democrat, and Hispanic Nevadans voted 69-30% for Harry Reid (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010_Elections/Nevada?ep=sen_nv).  Moreover, White's support among male Texas Hispanics was under 60%, at 58-41%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2010, 04:47:22 PM
You know, I am old enough to remember when Barone was a Democrat. Yes, he was. He clearly isn't anymore:

"Republican gains in state legislatures were even more impressive. They will control the redistricting process in four of the five states in this region. The exception is Illinois, where Rod Blagojevich's successor as governor, Pat Quinn, held on by a few thousand votes -- helped perhaps by the refusal of some Democratic county clerks not to send out military ballots in the time required by federal law. They did manage to send unrequested ballots to inmates of the Cook County Jail, though."

Ouch!  Punish them, and then punish them some more, Michael. :)  No, I don't think whatever games were played disenfranchising our military would have put Brady over the top.  What sank Brady in the end, is that he lost the Franzl vote, as it were. I wonder if I would have voted for him if I lived in Illinois. Probably. I am down on the Dems this year. They need to be punished.



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 24, 2010, 07:26:54 PM
I loved that wave in california. proably in 2012 we could actually pick up some republican seats in the house.

     Given the evident demise of the incumbent-protection gerrymander, it would be almost impossible for Democrats to not pick up Republican seats in California next time around.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 24, 2010, 07:33:06 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

Which is why Republicans were swept into unprecedented victories here in Massachusetts.

(Granted, that did happen in the Senate special, but certainly not in the general).

Aren't most Catholics in MA Irish? Though I don't know where there are that many blue-collar Catholic Anglos. Probably more of a swing among Catholics of German descent in the midwest.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 24, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

Which is why Republicans were swept into unprecedented victories here in Massachusetts.

(Granted, that did happen in the Senate special, but certainly not in the general).

Aren't most Catholics in MA Irish? Though I don't know where there are that many blue-collar Catholic Anglos. Probably more of a swing among Catholics of German descent in the midwest.

For a Hispanic a German is an Anglo.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 24, 2010, 08:33:36 PM
Jerry McNerney's been declared the winner of CA-11, so it's just NY-01 now.

So California experienced a wave election and 0 seats changed hands?

Hell, in the last four cycles, only CA-11 has changed hands. That's one hell of an incumbent protection map.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 24, 2010, 09:02:27 PM
Why is Barone held in such high regard?

It's because he used to be the best, or at least close to it. Not a David Butler or anything, but someone who turned out solid, respectable analytical work, and that's always been too rare in the U.S. His decline into intellectual dishonesty has been pretty depressing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2010, 09:12:49 PM
Why is Barone held in such high regard?

It's because he used to be the best, or at least close to it. Not a David Butler or anything, but someone who turned out solid, respectable analytical work, and that's always been too rare in the U.S. His decline into intellectual dishonesty has been pretty depressing.

He is still very knowledgeable, but you are right. He lets his biases color his judgment, and cloud his insight, as if his vision went from near 20-20 to something unfortunately closer to what mine was prior to my Lasek surgery. That is one thing I try very hard not to do, because I am an even more opinionated SOB than he is. Discipline, discipline!  What would we do without it?

Anyway, I have always been fascinated by ethnic politics since I was knee high from a grasshopper, and his Almanac was just such a joy to read in that regard. I learned just so much, far more than in an ethnic politics class I took at the University of Chicago.  By the way, guess who came to speak to us in that class.  Yes, you guessed, Tony Benn. I enjoyed watching him squirm when a guy in our class with an Irish accent asked him about Northern Ireland. The first thing Tony asked him was where he was from, and then he weaved and dodged.

My professor's specialty by the way was British politics (he said the Tories were unadulterated slime, but we got along famously anyway), so thus his pull in getting Tony to come. I wrote a paper looking carefully at constituency returns, to measure the white Enoch Powell backlash to persons of color showing up in their neighborhoods. And yes, the Wolverhampton zone was where it was most seismic. I got an A+ on the paper, and that was without even doing a regression analysis! In my defense 1) I didn't know then what a regression analysis really was back then, except as some murky concept, and 2) it was a long time before the age of PC's and excel. :)



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2010, 09:24:42 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

Which is why Republicans were swept into unprecedented victories here in Massachusetts.

(Granted, that did happen in the Senate special, but certainly not in the general).

Aren't most Catholics in MA Irish? Though I don't know where there are that many blue-collar Catholic Anglos. Probably more of a swing among Catholics of German descent in the midwest.

For better or worse, we here in CA at least, use the term "Anglo" to refer to those who are not Hispanic, Asian or black. And that is how I use the term - and for no other purpose.  I guess part of it is to use the term "white," in the context of excluding Hispanics, just rubs me the wrong way. Indeed, I find it almost offensive for some reason. Thus I embraced the term.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2010, 09:32:35 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

The problem for the Republicans in California, and this was especially true for the statewide races, was that the few blue collar whites left in the state didn't swing hard Republican. Republicans experienced a nice wave among the upper middle class, as results from OC make quite clear. But the swing the Republicans needed amongst blue collar folks, that happened basically everywhere in the country, just didn't occur here.

 And you can't blame it entirely on demographic changes either. Look at the Central Valley results for Brown. Obviously he didn't do that well just due to the Hispanic vote (who voted more heavily for Boxer according to exit polls). So Brown must have done quite well amongst lower income whites in this state, while Whitman did better amongst minorities. And she could have done even better if it wasn't for the illegal housekeeper controversy. In fact if minorities voted for Brown at the same rate as Boxer, he would have won by about 15-16 points. But why didn't Whitman do better amongst those blue collar whites in the Central Valley and the IE? I understand why she did better with minorities (because she actually asked for their vote), but what happened with the blue collar white vote? That is what I find most surprising about this election.

That is all quite fascinating. The exit polls showed Brown doing much better than Boxer among white voters?  I didn't know that. Part of it may be because culturally conservative blue collar types might not have related well to a woman who is a billionaire, with an almost mid-Atlantic upper class accent which is now largely gone in the US, hired an illegal alien maid, and was just not their cup of tea. I suppose the answer could be found in other races. Did Whitman run behind white voters as compared to the entire slate of GOP candidates, both state and local, in general?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 24, 2010, 09:36:45 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year.

That's always the group highlighted whenever there's a major swing against the Democrats, but this time round I don't think it was entirely true. While the swing within that group was high, I don't think it was outside the general pattern for whites outside the liberal enclaves; Critz, Altmire, Kucinich and Sutton were all re-elected and had a swing amongst the old ethnic Catholic working class been particularly notable, all would have lost. There were also quite a few other districts heavy on that demographic that would have been 'shockingly' tight had an ethnic-worker swing been the main feature, but weren't; IN-1, NY-27, IL-12, numerous districts in MA and so on. The working class districts the Democrats actually lost tended to be more Protestant than anything else, with a few exceptions. And most of those go when you phase out the white Catholic workers who don't fit into the old ethnic worker substrata (all those Germans in Wisconsin, say). Must stress that I'm certainly not making the opposite case - for a pattern of resilience - either. That would be insane.

What California lacks are large numbers of the people that form the main swing blocks, in general. Including the group you mentioned, obviously. The swing to the Democrats there in 2006 was not exactly notable either. Affluent white liberal professionals, affluent white managerial conservatives, working class minorities, a significant agricultural/etc element, and that's almost everyone in the state covered, if gross generalisation is permitted. And those are the bedrock groups of the two parties these days (Obama's overperformance in the one group being treated as just that).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sam Spade on November 24, 2010, 09:42:01 PM
Why is Barone held in such high regard?

It's because he used to be the best, or at least close to it. Not a David Butler or anything, but someone who turned out solid, respectable analytical work, and that's always been too rare in the U.S. His decline into intellectual dishonesty has been pretty depressing.

I basically agree with both you and Torie.

Of course, intellectual dishonesty is generally looked upon favorably today by so-called intellectual elites today, so it's no wonder that even halfway-decent minds fall for the allure.  Kinda goes along with what are viewed as positive intellectual pursuits as well.

I find it very difficult to stay away from myself - the only solution I've found is by acknowledging my own biases in what I analyze because we all have them.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 24, 2010, 09:43:02 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

Which is why Republicans were swept into unprecedented victories here in Massachusetts.

(Granted, that did happen in the Senate special, but certainly not in the general).

Aren't most Catholics in MA Irish? Though I don't know where there are that many blue-collar Catholic Anglos. Probably more of a swing among Catholics of German descent in the midwest.

For better or worse, we here in CA at least, use the term "Anglo" to refer to those who are not Hispanic, Asian or black. And that is how I use the term - and for no other purpose.  I guess part of it is to use the term "white," in the context of excluding Hispanics, just rubs me the wrong way. Indeed, I find it almost offensive for some reason. Thus I embraced the term.

Well, I didn't comment before, but most white Catholics (i.e. Italians and especially the Irish) would be far more offended by your calling them "Anglo" than Hispanics would by your calling non-Hispanic Caucasians "white."


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 24, 2010, 10:48:01 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

The problem for the Republicans in California, and this was especially true for the statewide races, was that the few blue collar whites left in the state didn't swing hard Republican. Republicans experienced a nice wave among the upper middle class, as results from OC make quite clear. But the swing the Republicans needed amongst blue collar folks, that happened basically everywhere in the country, just didn't occur here.

 And you can't blame it entirely on demographic changes either. Look at the Central Valley results for Brown. Obviously he didn't do that well just due to the Hispanic vote (who voted more heavily for Boxer according to exit polls). So Brown must have done quite well amongst lower income whites in this state, while Whitman did better amongst minorities. And she could have done even better if it wasn't for the illegal housekeeper controversy. In fact if minorities voted for Brown at the same rate as Boxer, he would have won by about 15-16 points. But why didn't Whitman do better amongst those blue collar whites in the Central Valley and the IE? I understand why she did better with minorities (because she actually asked for their vote), but what happened with the blue collar white vote? That is what I find most surprising about this election.

That is all quite fascinating. The exit polls showed Brown doing much better than Boxer among white voters?  I didn't know that. Part of it may be because culturally conservative blue collar types might not have related well to a woman who is a billionaire, with an almost mid-Atlantic upper class accent which is now largely gone in the US, hired an illegal alien maid, and was just not their cup of tea. I suppose the answer could be found in other races. Did Whitman run behind white voters as compared to the entire slate of GOP candidates, both state and local, in general?

I don't want to overstate it, since the difference between the Senate and Governor's race wasn't that much, but whites (or Anglos or whatever) did vote at a greater clip for Brown than the overall difference would suggest. The difference could be attributed just to margin of error, but the county results make me wonder if there is something to it. I don't think whites in the bay area, LA, SD or OC voted that differently in the two races. Yet those whites who live in the more inland parts of the state didn't seem to warm to Whitman. And your explanation for the phenomenon, if it exists, makes sense to me.

The other explanation could be that Hispanics who live in the inland parts of the state were really enthusiastic for Brown but didn't like Boxer, and were more than balanced out by greater support for Boxer amongst Hispanics in the cities. We have to wait for the supplement before we can be sure of what exactly happened.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: ag on November 25, 2010, 01:45:33 PM
California just doesn't have enough blue collar Catholic Anglos. They were the group that swung, and swung hard, against the Dems this year. Joe Biden was chatting about that. As someone noted in a post, the candidate the Dems fear most is Christie.

Which is why Republicans were swept into unprecedented victories here in Massachusetts.

(Granted, that did happen in the Senate special, but certainly not in the general).

Aren't most Catholics in MA Irish? Though I don't know where there are that many blue-collar Catholic Anglos. Probably more of a swing among Catholics of German descent in the midwest.

For better or worse, we here in CA at least, use the term "Anglo" to refer to those who are not Hispanic, Asian or black. And that is how I use the term - and for no other purpose.  I guess part of it is to use the term "white," in the context of excluding Hispanics, just rubs me the wrong way. Indeed, I find it almost offensive for some reason. Thus I embraced the term.

Well, I didn't comment before, but most white Catholics (i.e. Italians and especially the Irish) would be far more offended by your calling them "Anglo" than Hispanics would by your calling non-Hispanic Caucasians "white."

Nevertheless, from the standpoint of their Hispanic neighbors they are all Anglo, even if they are Greek :)))


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Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 25, 2010, 02:18:54 PM
The term Anglo in the context is kind of silly, but it makes sense in the terms of Texas and New Mexico where tons of Hispanics are just descendants of early Spanish settlers and have just as pure European ancestry as stereotypical WASP people. Ken Salazar (Colorado but same thing) is a great example of one of these.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 25, 2010, 06:48:49 PM
Well, I lost the rather detailed post that I had been typing, because my computer is sick. Anyway, for now, to add to this discussion, we might look at the net swing over the past two election cycles from Bush 2004.  

Suffice it to say, in mostly Catholic white working to lower middle class to middle, middle class, but not upper middle class, Wayne County (the area does not include the Gross Pointes), the swing to Obama was under 4% in the area I am putting in a new GOP CD in my redistricting map, and the swing against Dingell from 2008 in his portion of Wayne, which includes a somewhat more downscale version of what I put in my GOP CD (it has next to no lower middle class) was17% (and looking at the precincts, I can see a big swing against the Dems there, up and down the line), for a net swing against the Dems of 13% since Bush 2004.  Where else can that be replicated in the North outside perhaps some bits of the Copperhead belt (Southern Ohio (outside Cincy, except to the extent Cincy has migrants for Kentucky), Indiana and Illinois) and the fossil fuel districts?

Where are the white working class Protestant areas outside the South and copperhead and fossil fuel districts?  The iron range?  What areas did you have in mind where you posit massive swings against the Dems this year?  


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 25, 2010, 07:08:17 PM
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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 25, 2010, 07:26:21 PM
Suffice it to say, in mostly Catholic white working to lower middle class to middle, middle class, but not upper middle class, Wayne County (the area does not include the Gross Pointes), the swing to Obama was under 4% in the area I am putting in a new GOP CD in my redistricting map, and the swing against Dingell from 2008 in his portion of Wayne, which includes a somewhat more downscale version of what I put in my GOP CD (it has next to no lower middle class) was17% (and looking at the precincts, I can see a big swing against the Dems there, up and down the line), for a net swing against the Dems of 13% since Bush 2004.  Where else can that be replicated in the North outside perhaps some bits of the Copperhead belt (Southern Ohio (outside Cincy, except to the extent Cincy has migrants for Kentucky), Indiana and Illinois) and the fossil fuel districts?

That doesn't come as a major surprise as the white working class parts of Michigan were disaster areas for the Democrats this year, owing to material discontent. I don't think ethnic/religious background had much to do with it and I don't think you can extrapolate into large national generalisations from it, given the failure to fall of districts that certainly would have done had that group been the swing group of the election.

Though I'm not sure what exactly it is you're measuring. Swing from the 2004 Presidential election, or from Congressional elections in 2004?

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Where are the white working class Protestant areas outside the South and copperhead and fossil fuel districts?  The iron range?  What areas did you have in mind where you posit massive swings against the Dems this year?

I don't think there really was a defining group, as such. Which is one of the more interesting aspects of the election.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 25, 2010, 08:26:19 PM

The difference was mostly in the margins, and it didn't flip many counties. Only San Joaquin flipped, and Merced was close. Brown certainly did better in the whole Central Valley, as well as inland parts of the LA area. Compare that to the urban coastal areas, which voted about the same for both races.


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Post by: Verily on November 25, 2010, 09:19:40 PM

The difference was mostly in the margins, and it didn't flip many counties. Only San Joaquin flipped, and Merced was close. Brown certainly did better in the whole Central Valley, as well as inland parts of the LA area. Compare that to the urban coastal areas, which voted about the same for both races.

Del Norte flipped, too, and it didn't even vote for Obama. Loggers and prison workers for Brown?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 26, 2010, 11:05:06 AM

The difference was mostly in the margins, and it didn't flip many counties. Only San Joaquin flipped, and Merced was close. Brown certainly did better in the whole Central Valley, as well as inland parts of the LA area. Compare that to the urban coastal areas, which voted about the same for both races.

Del Norte flipped, too, and it didn't even vote for Obama. Loggers and prison workers for Brown?

Prison workers unionized?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on November 26, 2010, 11:37:56 AM

The difference was mostly in the margins, and it didn't flip many counties. Only San Joaquin flipped, and Merced was close. Brown certainly did better in the whole Central Valley, as well as inland parts of the LA area. Compare that to the urban coastal areas, which voted about the same for both races.

Del Norte flipped, too, and it didn't even vote for Obama. Loggers and prison workers for Brown?

Prison workers unionized?

Yes, and it's one union that needs to be busted. They have an inordinate amount of influence in Sacramento.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on November 26, 2010, 12:56:50 PM
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The other explanation could be that Hispanics who live in the inland parts of the state were really enthusiastic for Brown but didn't like Boxer, and were more than balanced out by greater support for Boxer amongst Hispanics in the cities.

This explanation feels right to me, without having looked at the numbers. Sure Hispanics might not warm to a rather shrill pushy woman, who is so passionate about abortion - she's for it. And they are comfortable with the Brown name. Why not?

Sbane, if after having looked the numbers, you have more insights on this, I will be waiting to hear them. Thanks.

 


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 26, 2010, 01:11:42 PM
How come the prison workers union is so powerful especially in California?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 26, 2010, 03:58:29 PM

The difference was mostly in the margins, and it didn't flip many counties. Only San Joaquin flipped, and Merced was close. Brown certainly did better in the whole Central Valley, as well as inland parts of the LA area. Compare that to the urban coastal areas, which voted about the same for both races.

Del Norte flipped, too, and it didn't even vote for Obama. Loggers and prison workers for Brown?

Not sure about the loggers but the prison union might have voted for Brown. I know Whitman made some sweetheart deals with a few police unions, but might not have extended that offer to the prison workers.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Sbane on November 26, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
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The other explanation could be that Hispanics who live in the inland parts of the state were really enthusiastic for Brown but didn't like Boxer, and were more than balanced out by greater support for Boxer amongst Hispanics in the cities.

This explanation feels right to me, without having looked at the numbers. Sure Hispanics might not warm to a rather shrill pushy woman, who is so passionate about abortion - she's for it. And they are comfortable with the Brown name. Why not?

Sbane, if after having looked the numbers, you have more insights on this, I will be waiting to hear them. Thanks.
 

That explanation also feels right to me, but I was surprised by the exit poll. The main difference was amongst the white vote, with minorities voting slightly more for Boxer than Brown, and amongst geographies the only difference was inland. It is possible that shifts in the vote also happened in the more urban areas, but were obscured since the counties are so big. You really can't say anything definitive without looking at results by city. A few counties must have already released that data, no? I'll try and look through them when I can.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: J. J. on November 26, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
How come the prison workers union is so powerful especially in California?

Well organized?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: minionofmidas on November 30, 2010, 12:34:30 PM
So, has Altschuler conceded?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Tender Branson on November 30, 2010, 12:47:23 PM

They are currently in court to resolve the election.

There are a few questioned ballots, but Altschuler probably has no chance anymore to win this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on November 30, 2010, 05:07:09 PM
Maybe Altshuler will end up contesting it in the House a la the Indiana 8th in 1985 between McIntyre and McCloskey.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 30, 2010, 05:29:15 PM

They are currently in court to resolve the election.

There are a few questioned ballots, but Altschuler probably has no chance anymore to win this.

Margin is 215 with the counted Military ballots.  2,051 ballots were challenged and remain uncounted.  Altschuler challenged the majority of those ballots (1,260-791), so if anything once the challenged ballots are ruled on, Bishop likely expands his lead.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on November 30, 2010, 08:32:27 PM

They are currently in court to resolve the election.

There are a few questioned ballots, but Altschuler probably has no chance anymore to win this.



Margin is 215 with the counted Military ballots.  2,051 ballots were challenged and remain uncounted.  Altschuler challenged the majority of those ballots (1,260-791), so if anything once the challenged ballots are ruled on, Bishop likely expands his lead.

Update.  Both sides agreed to drop 129 challenges each.  Once those ballots were opened and counted, Bishop picked up 6 votes and now leads by 221.   Approx 1,600 challenged ballots remain uncounted, most of which were challenged by Altschuler.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 02, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
Well the NY-1 has gone into the bizzaro world of how sealed an envelope was.  Some ballots were thrown out because they were improperly sealed, others were counted over the objections by the Altschuler campaign that they were closed with scotch tape rather than licked closed.  Yes, you read that correctly.   Bishop has increased his lead to 264 votes after 120 more ballots were allowed to be counted.

GOP elections commissioner asked for the vote count to be stopped (for reasons currently unknown) and altschuler and the GOP are now in closed door meetings.


http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-how-sticky-is-sticky-enough-1.2511678?showAll=true



Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 05, 2010, 08:30:15 PM
Well the NY-1 has gone into the bizzaro world of how sealed an envelope was.  Some ballots were thrown out because they were improperly sealed, others were counted over the objections by the Altschuler campaign that they were closed with scotch tape rather than licked closed.  Yes, you read that correctly.   Bishop has increased his lead to 264 votes after 120 more ballots were allowed to be counted.

GOP elections commissioner asked for the vote count to be stopped (for reasons currently unknown) and altschuler and the GOP are now in closed door meetings.


http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-how-sticky-is-sticky-enough-1.2511678?showAll=true



Hah, because, you know, any vote-tampering operation aiming to change/defraud hundreds of absentee votes, wouldn't be able to reseal an envelope in a convincing manner?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 08, 2010, 10:24:07 AM
http://www.capitaltonight.com/2010/12/altschuler-concedes-in-ny1/


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 08, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
Well the NY-1 has gone into the bizzaro world of how sealed an envelope was.  Some ballots were thrown out because they were improperly sealed, others were counted over the objections by the Altschuler campaign that they were closed with scotch tape rather than licked closed.  Yes, you read that correctly.   Bishop has increased his lead to 264 votes after 120 more ballots were allowed to be counted.

GOP elections commissioner asked for the vote count to be stopped (for reasons currently unknown) and altschuler and the GOP are now in closed door meetings.


http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/spin-cycle-1.812042/1st-c-d-how-sticky-is-sticky-enough-1.2511678?showAll=true



Hah, because, you know, any vote-tampering operation aiming to change/defraud hundreds of absentee votes, wouldn't be able to reseal an envelope in a convincing manner?

It's moot now that Altschuler has conceded, but that's actually not as frivolous a challenge as it sounds.  New York law requires (http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/download/law/2010NYElectionLaw.pdf):

"After marking the ballot or ballots he shall fold each such ballot and enclose them in the envelope and seal the envelope. He shall then take and subscribe the oath on the envelope, with blanks properly filled in."

If I remember correctly from the last time I cast an absentee ballot, the signature for the oath may be across the seal on the back of the envelope.  So taping over it could be a fraud issue.  But I might be wrong about that, since it's been a while.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 10, 2010, 08:17:02 PM
Judge rules against Joe Miller's challenge to write-in votes in Alaska Senate race (http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/10633186/article-Judge-rules-against-Joe-Miller-s-challenge-to-write-in-votes-in-Alaska-Senate-race?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1) (Fairbanks Daily News-Miner)

Yes, Miller has until Tuesday appeal to the Alaskan Supreme Court - but I doubt he's going to win there, either.  It's over.

Judicial opinion here (http://media.adn.com/smedia/2010/12/10/14/Senate_ruling_Dec._10.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf), from the Anchorage Daily News website.


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Post by: ag on December 10, 2010, 09:06:28 PM
A very clear judgement. Miller's done.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 10, 2010, 09:45:41 PM
Honest question: Why are so many of the close races with Republican Party candidates trailing on the defensive?

For the protracted federal legal battles, it seems that Congressional Republicans in California, Alaska, and New York were disproportionately responsible for the delay.  Maffei and Ortiz kept their causes going a bit longer than necessary, but that was still substantively less days than the former (I believe both Harmer & Vidak conceded after Maffei).  Am I crazy here?

And for governors races, Democrats won all of the close races except Florida & Ohio -- which, of course, doesn't necesarily speak to Republican's weakness, as they had a number of blowouts in Texas, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc.  And, of course, Emmer, like Miller, were particularly sore-losery in their legal challenges with less than 0.01% of succeeding.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 10, 2010, 10:18:14 PM
Honest question: Why are so many of the close races with Republican Party candidates trailing on the defensive?

For the protracted federal legal battles, it seems that Congressional Republicans in California, Alaska, and New York were disproportionately responsible for the delay.  Maffei and Ortiz kept their causes going a bit longer than necessary, but that was still substantively less days than the former (I believe both Harmer & Vidak conceded after Maffei).  Am I crazy here?

And for governors races, Democrats won all of the close races except Florida & Ohio -- which, of course, doesn't necesarily speak to Republican's weakness, as they had a number of blowouts in Texas, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc.  And, of course, Emmer, like Miller, were particularly sore-losery in their legal challenges with less than 0.01% of succeeding.

The New York votes in contested races were counted very slowly - and statewide, there actually were more close races that dragged on with Republicans leading (NY-25, the Buffalo and LI SDs plus an AD in Westchester that was just finalized in the last day or two) as trailing (NY-01 and the Westchester SD).  And there's still an AD race, I believe in Dutchess, that is outstanding.  Democrats dragged their feet in the races in which they trailed; Republicans in the other.  It's just how it works in politics.

The races were close and things probably took a little bit longer due to it being the first time many counties had used the new voting machines.   There was less to argue over with the old lever machines.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 10, 2010, 10:26:56 PM
Fair enough, I think an argument that my perception is all coincidence, especially when taking into account state legislative races, has a lot of sticking power here.  It makes more sense than anything I can come up with


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on December 10, 2010, 10:58:16 PM
I assume it is clear now Cinyc, that the GOP took control of the NY State Senate. Is that correct?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 10, 2010, 11:14:57 PM
I assume it is clear now Cinyc, that the GOP took control of the NY State Senate. Is that correct?

100% correct with 0 room for error.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: rbt48 on December 11, 2010, 01:00:08 AM
Does anyone know if Tim Scott won the black vote in SC CD1?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 11, 2010, 01:03:59 AM
Does anyone know if Tim Scott won the black vote in SC CD1?

He won 65%-29% in a district that is 75% white, 25% non-white, fwiw


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 11, 2010, 01:11:23 AM
Does anyone know if Tim Scott won the black vote in SC CD1?

He won 65%-29% in a district that is 75% white, 25% non-white, fwiw

Based off that its a clear no, and he didn't win much of it either.  The only way he was even competitive with the black vote is if many more whites voted against the GOP in that district than they typically do because of him.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on December 11, 2010, 01:27:16 AM
Does anyone know if Tim Scott won the black vote in SC CD1?

He won 65%-29% in a district that is 75% white, 25% non-white, fwiw

Based off that its a clear no, and he didn't win much of it either.  The only way he was even competitive with the black vote is if many more whites voted against the GOP in that district than they typically do because of him.

In 2008, Obama of the two party vote got about 40.5% of it in SC-01. So the 10% drop in support from Obama to the Dem who ran against Scott is accounted for by what?


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 11, 2010, 01:46:34 AM
Does anyone know if Tim Scott won the black vote in SC CD1?

He won 65%-29% in a district that is 75% white, 25% non-white, fwiw

Based off that its a clear no, and he didn't win much of it either.  The only way he was even competitive with the black vote is if many more whites voted against the GOP in that district than they typically do because of him.

In 2008, Obama of the two party vote got about 40.5% of it in SC-01. So the 10% drop in support from Obama to the Dem who ran against Scott is accounted for by what?

I dunno if this is what you mean, but local officials in solid districts often overperform their national tide due to lack of funded known opposition that national candidates have.  There's a few CA GOP Congressmen still sitting in districts Obama won.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 11, 2010, 01:50:22 AM
I feel like I may have gone off on a tangent with my last post, eh.  Anyway, important to remember that the Democrats almost won SC-01 in 2008, 52%-48%.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 11, 2010, 01:51:32 AM
Does anyone know if Tim Scott won the black vote in SC CD1?

He won 65%-29% in a district that is 75% white, 25% non-white, fwiw

Based off that its a clear no, and he didn't win much of it either.  The only way he was even competitive with the black vote is if many more whites voted against the GOP in that district than they typically do because of him.

In 2008, Obama of the two party vote got about 40.5% of it in SC-01. So the 10% drop in support from Obama to the Dem who ran against Scott is accounted for by what?

Well I didn't say Scott didn't do better than McCain with the black vote, of course he did, but still not enough to really be competitive.  The 10% drop off is likely a combination of factors, from a slightly larger % of the black vote, to lower black turnout, to lower youth turnout, to more straight party GOP voting.  SC does release precinct level data so looking at how Scott did in the heavily black precincts would probably be the best way to get a general idea.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 11, 2010, 02:04:30 AM
Taking a look at some of the Precinct data, this is a handful of the heavily Obama Precincts in Horry County


Coastal Lane 1 Obama 509-63,  Fraiser 308-49
Leon  Obama 471-184    Fraiser 296-158
Port Harrelson Obama 495-19,  Fraiser 357-14
Racepath 2 Obama 668-20,  Fraiser 556-17


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 11, 2010, 04:06:36 AM
I assume it is clear now Cinyc, that the GOP took control of the NY State Senate. Is that correct?

Yes.  32-30.  The new Buffalo-area Republican is a registered Democrat who ran on the Republican line but will vote for the Republican leadership and likely caucus with the Republicans, though.

The outcome of the outstanding Dutchess/Orange/Ulster Assembly race (AD-100) (http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20101210/NEWS/12100384) will determine whether the Republicans have 50 or 51 seats out of the 150 in the Assembly, up from 39 after the 2008 election.  Some sources claim that regardless of the outcome, Democrats lost their veto-proof majority in the Assembly - though I'd have to check whether 100 or 101 votes are needed to override a veto.  In any event, it probably doesn't really matter too much with a Democratic governor, I suppose.   The AD-100 Republican challenger is up by 62 with 118 ballots that a judge is deciding whether to count, most challenged by the Republican. The Democrat lead on election day, but uncounted Ulster County ballots subsequently put the Republican ahead.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on December 11, 2010, 11:35:25 AM
Taking a look at some of the Precinct data, this is a handful of the heavily Obama Precincts in Horry County


Coastal Lane 1 Obama 509-63,  Fraiser 308-49
Leon  Obama 471-184    Fraiser 296-158
Port Harrelson Obama 495-19,  Fraiser 357-14
Racepath 2 Obama 668-20,  Fraiser 556-17

Yes, I agree. In North Charleston, in CD-1 Obama got 67%, and Fraiser 60%, with the margin drop generated by a bigger drop in the Dem totals than the GOP totals from 2008.  So while Scott probably got a bit more of the black vote (it is hard to be sure, because I see no precinct where Scott got more votes than McCain in a heavily Obama precinct),  it it is probably more generated by a fall off in black turnout. However, the exit polls for 2008 and 2010 for SC show the black percentage of voters was 25% in both instances, so maybe not.


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Post by: nclib on December 11, 2010, 12:21:16 PM
SC-1 is actually relatively moderate for a white district in the Deep South. Take a look at the gay marriage % in the coastal counties. So there are certainly a sizeable number of whites who would usually vote Democratic in Federal elections. Also, there would certainly be a lower black turnout than in 2008. That all said, Scott likely won more of the black vote than most GOP candidates, but unlikely to be more than 15-20%.


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Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 11, 2010, 12:26:51 PM
I feel like I may have gone off on a tangent with my last post, eh.  Anyway, important to remember that the Democrats almost won SC-01 in 2008, 52%-48%.

Fluke results are important? It's solid Republican district, or ought to be.


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Post by: Lunar on December 11, 2010, 05:12:07 PM
I feel like I may have gone off on a tangent with my last post, eh.  Anyway, important to remember that the Democrats almost won SC-01 in 2008, 52%-48%.

Fluke results are important? It's solid Republican district, or ought to be.

Eh, maybe not "important" for that -- but just important to remember the asymmetries in comparing 2008 presidential to 2010 congressional


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 12, 2010, 02:49:54 AM
Taking a look at some of the Precinct data, this is a handful of the heavily Obama Precincts in Horry County


Coastal Lane 1 Obama 509-63,  Fraiser 308-49
Leon  Obama 471-184    Fraiser 296-158
Port Harrelson Obama 495-19,  Fraiser 357-14
Racepath 2 Obama 668-20,  Fraiser 556-17

Yes, I agree. In North Charleston, in CD-1 Obama got 67%, and Fraiser 60%, with the margin drop generated by a bigger drop in the Dem totals than the GOP totals from 2008.  So while Scott probably got a bit more of the black vote (it is hard to be sure, because I see no precinct where Scott got more votes than McCain in a heavily Obama precinct),  it it is probably more generated by a fall off in black turnout. However, the exit polls for 2008 and 2010 for SC show the black percentage of voters was 25% in both instances, so maybe not.

Drop off in the youth vote

Those under 40 made up 36% of the vote in 2008, but 25% in 2010.   Those over 50 made up 42% of the vote in 2008, but 52% in 2010.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 12, 2010, 03:02:01 AM
The final margin in NY-01 was 593 vote victory for Bishop.   Altschuler spent $5.5 million (probably pushed higher in the absentee count battle) more than $4 million of which was his own $$$.


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Post by: Sam Spade on December 12, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
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Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on December 12, 2010, 08:48:25 PM
Taking a look at some of the Precinct data, this is a handful of the heavily Obama Precincts in Horry County


Coastal Lane 1 Obama 509-63,  Fraiser 308-49
Leon  Obama 471-184    Fraiser 296-158
Port Harrelson Obama 495-19,  Fraiser 357-14
Racepath 2 Obama 668-20,  Fraiser 556-17

Yes, I agree. In North Charleston, in CD-1 Obama got 67%, and Fraiser 60%, with the margin drop generated by a bigger drop in the Dem totals than the GOP totals from 2008.  So while Scott probably got a bit more of the black vote (it is hard to be sure, because I see no precinct where Scott got more votes than McCain in a heavily Obama precinct),  it it is probably more generated by a fall off in black turnout. However, the exit polls for 2008 and 2010 for SC show the black percentage of voters was 25% in both instances, so maybe not.

Drop off in the youth vote

Those under 40 made up 36% of the vote in 2008, but 25% in 2010.   Those over 50 made up 42% of the vote in 2008, but 52% in 2010.

Younger whites vote that differently from older whites in SC?  In many conservative states they vote more GOP in general than the olds, such as in Kansas. Youngs in Kansas are very serious about Jesus - yes they are - and the moral rot corroding away America's virtu.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Nichlemn on December 13, 2010, 04:53:58 AM
Tim Scott's opponent, Ben Frasier, was also black. So blacks who would might otherwise have "voted their race" would instead be inclined to vote for whatever party they leaned towards, which is usually Democratic.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dgov on December 13, 2010, 05:30:57 AM
Younger whites vote that differently from older whites in SC?  In many conservative states they vote more GOP in general than the olds, such as in Kansas. Youngs in Kansas are very serious about Jesus - yes they are - and the moral rot corroding away America's virtu.

From what I can tell, there's really not much of an age gap in Southern Whites (or Southerners in general actually) like there is in say, California.  McCain actually won the 18-29 SC White vote by slightly more than the overall white vote (mostly because Gen X is abnormally Democrat).  Democrats do better with the Youth in those states because it's significantly blacker/browner than other generations (how much of this is Obamamania turnout though I don't know since I'm using 2008 numbers).  In 2008, the 18-29 Turnout in SC was barely 50% white while the 45-64 was about 75% White.  Obama won the former age group by 10 points and lost the latter by 22.

Obama even did only 3% better than the White vote average in Virginia and Florida, both where much of the population is decidedly not southern.  The only "Southern" states where there was a big age gap in white voters were North Carolina (where Obama won the young by 12 despite losing the rest of them by about 35), and Tennessee (where Obama lost young whites by 8 and lost the rest of them by 30)

If you measure for Congressional Races rather than the presidential, it gets weirder still.  In 2008 Texas, Cornyn did 6 points worse with the white 18-29s than the white overall, but actually managed to do 5 points better with Young Hispanics than with Hispanics overall, which is why he won the minority white 18-29 Demographic in the State.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 13, 2010, 11:24:30 PM
As expected, Miller is appealing the decision to the Alaska Supreme Court.  Arguments will be heard on Friday.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Smash255 on December 14, 2010, 04:48:10 AM
Younger whites vote that differently from older whites in SC?  In many conservative states they vote more GOP in general than the olds, such as in Kansas. Youngs in Kansas are very serious about Jesus - yes they are - and the moral rot corroding away America's virtu.

From what I can tell, there's really not much of an age gap in Southern Whites (or Southerners in general actually) like there is in say, California.  McCain actually won the 18-29 SC White vote by slightly more than the overall white vote (mostly because Gen X is abnormally Democrat).  Democrats do better with the Youth in those states because it's significantly blacker/browner than other generations (how much of this is Obamamania turnout though I don't know since I'm using 2008 numbers).  In 2008, the 18-29 Turnout in SC was barely 50% white while the 45-64 was about 75% White.  Obama won the former age group by 10 points and lost the latter by 22.

Obama even did only 3% better than the White vote average in Virginia and Florida, both where much of the population is decidedly not southern.  The only "Southern" states where there was a big age gap in white voters were North Carolina (where Obama won the young by 12 despite losing the rest of them by about 35), and Tennessee (where Obama lost young whites by 8 and lost the rest of them by 30)

If you measure for Congressional Races rather than the presidential, it gets weirder still.  In 2008 Texas, Cornyn did 6 points worse with the white 18-29s than the white overall, but actually managed to do 5 points better with Young Hispanics than with Hispanics overall, which is why he won the minority white 18-29 Demographic in the State.

One thing to keep in mind is the subsets of exit polls tend to have the same moe issues as the subsets do in polls.  For example the Texas young Hispanic vote you mention.  They make up 4% of respondents in an exit poll of 2,049, so you are basically dealing with a poll of 72-92 respondents.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Alcon on December 14, 2010, 11:18:58 PM
Not to mention that exit polls aren't truly random samples to begin with, so it's not just a margin-of-error thing.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 16, 2010, 01:48:13 AM
Anyone else bet that if a poll from Vermont showing a Republican beating Obama among blacks appeared Dgov would freak out?


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Post by: tpfkaw on December 16, 2010, 01:55:56 AM
That's not a terribly implausible scenario, as there are about 5 black people in Vermont.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 16, 2010, 01:58:54 AM
That's not a terribly implausible scenario, as there are about 5 black people in Vermont.

But don't you know that subsamples in polls are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RIGHT NO MATTER HOW SMALL!!!!11!!!! [/Dgov]


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 22, 2010, 08:39:22 PM
As expected, the Alaska Supreme Court ruled against Miller (http://www.adn.com/2010/12/22/1616612/supreme-court-rules-against-miller.html) this afternoon.  The federal judge who told Miller to go to the state courts first will hold a hearing on Monday to hear any remaining federal constitutional issues not taken up by the Alaskan Supreme Court.  That will likely go over about as well as Miller's state case.

It's still over.

The Alaska Supreme's opinion is available here (http://media.adn.com/smedia/2010/12/22/13/MillervTreadwell_decision.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf).


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on December 23, 2010, 01:46:38 AM
How sweet!
Murkowski has become the Democrats best friend in the senate. Reid must sent a thank you note to sister Sarah.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Torie on December 23, 2010, 10:27:47 PM
As expected, the Alaska Supreme Court ruled against Miller (http://www.adn.com/2010/12/22/1616612/supreme-court-rules-against-miller.html) this afternoon.  The federal judge who told Miller to go to the state courts first will hold a hearing on Monday to hear any remaining federal constitutional issues not taken up by the Alaskan Supreme Court.  That will likely go over about as well as Miller's state case.

It's still over.

The Alaska Supreme's opinion is available here (http://media.adn.com/smedia/2010/12/22/13/MillervTreadwell_decision.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf).

Why do you think Miller humiliated himself this way, doing a Don Quixote, except in his instance an ignoble one?  I mean the guy is a f'ing lawyer from Yale isn't he? So he does not have the Palin excuse. He actually should know the ropes on this.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Dgov on December 25, 2010, 07:48:02 PM
That's not a terribly implausible scenario, as there are about 5 black people in Vermont.

But don't you know that subsamples in polls are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RIGHT NO MATTER HOW SMALL!!!!11!!!! [/Dgov]

Do I honestly have to make that clear before every post?  I kind of assumed that the people posting here would have enough common sense to know that when I'm using exit polls, I'M USING EXIT POLLS.  Your mileage may vary.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Alcon on December 26, 2010, 11:56:03 PM
That's not a terribly implausible scenario, as there are about 5 black people in Vermont.

But don't you know that subsamples in polls are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RIGHT NO MATTER HOW SMALL!!!!11!!!! [/Dgov]

Do I honestly have to make that clear before every post?  I kind of assumed that the people posting here would have enough common sense to know that when I'm using exit polls, I'M USING EXIT POLLS.  Your mileage may vary.

That doesn't really matter.  Exit polls filter out likely voters who don't vote, but are more prone to non-representative sampling, and either way subsamples in exit polls are basically just as bad as with polls.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 27, 2010, 03:23:45 AM
That's not a terribly implausible scenario, as there are about 5 black people in Vermont.

But don't you know that subsamples in polls are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RIGHT NO MATTER HOW SMALL!!!!11!!!! [/Dgov]

Do I honestly have to make that clear before every post?  I kind of assumed that the people posting here would have enough common sense to know that when I'm using exit polls, I'M USING EXIT POLLS.  Your mileage may vary.

That doesn't really matter.  Exit polls filter out likely voters who don't vote, but are more prone to non-representative sampling, and either way subsamples in exit polls are basically just as bad as with polls.

Not really.  Exit polls usually have much larger samples than your typical poll (often 2,000+ respondents), making the margins of error on subsamples much lower than your typical poll.  Thus, while the subsample MoE will be higher than for the overall exit poll, all things being equal, subsample exit poll results are more likely to be within the margin of error than in your typical regular poll.  Not that exit polls don't have their own unique biases, including potential selection bias that may or may not be more egregious in an in-person poll than a phone poll.

Why do you think Miller humiliated himself this way, doing a Don Quixote, except in his instance an ignoble one?  I mean the guy is a f'ing lawyer from Yale isn't he? So he does not have the Palin excuse. He actually should know the ropes on this.

I don't think Miller thinks he's humiliating himself.  He views it as fighting "for the integrity of the election" - and for what he believes to be the correct legal result.   Also, the Palin and Murkowski factions of the Alaska Republican party absolutely hate each other.  Miller is fighting this battle on behalf of the Palin wing of the party.  And he has the money, so why not?

According to his recent press release (http://media.adn.com/smedia/2010/12/26/23/Miller%20Will%20Not%20Oppose-2.93870.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf), Miller will continue with his federal appeal, but will allow the state to certify the election results in the interim.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Alcon on December 27, 2010, 05:34:25 AM
^^

cinyc -- I understand that; my point was assuming that all things are equal.  Considering how small that subsamples like that are even on larger-sample exit polls, I assumed he believed that exit polls were inherently prone to less statistical noise.  Either way, even the given exit poll sample is not large/random enough to so strongly draw that conclusion, IMO.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Lunar on December 27, 2010, 05:56:44 AM
I don't think Miller thinks he's humiliating himself.  He views it as fighting "for the integrity of the election" - and for what he believes to be the correct legal result.   Also, the Palin and Murkowski factions of the Alaska Republican party absolutely hate each other.  Miller is fighting this battle on behalf of the Palin wing of the party.  And he has the money, so why not?

Future electoral prospects? Voters don't like sore losers.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: cinyc on December 27, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
I don't think Miller thinks he's humiliating himself.  He views it as fighting "for the integrity of the election" - and for what he believes to be the correct legal result.   Also, the Palin and Murkowski factions of the Alaska Republican party absolutely hate each other.  Miller is fighting this battle on behalf of the Palin wing of the party.  And he has the money, so why not?

Future electoral prospects? Voters don't like sore losers.

Honestly, I don't think Miller has any, anyway.  The Murkowski machine so sullied his reputation that he can't recover.  That happened because she pretty much ignored him during the primary and had to go nuclear.


Title: Re: NATIONAL SENATE/HOUSE RESULTS THREAD (LATE RESULTS/POSTMORTEM)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on December 27, 2010, 02:35:51 PM
The Murkowski machine so sullied his reputation that he can't recover.  

LMAO!