Talk Elections

Coleman for now, but we'll see...

Miller has already lapped Coleman, and then some.

Lisa Murkowski is a bigger sore loser than either of them.

I don't see how Murkowski can be too much of a sore loser, considering that she pulled off the amazing and actually won.  You're not a sore loser if you win the game in the end. 

Miller has outdone Coleman on that front.

Coleman is unbeatable here.

I don't see how you can say Miller has already outdone Coleman until Murkowski is not in the Senate come January. Or even June.

Coleman.

Well, at least Coleman's margin was actually close and he was leading at one point.

We'll have to see how long Joey drags this out. Coleman will be tough to beat.

Judging this entirely by the time it took is a little unfair. There are probably lots of 100-on-a-scale-of-100 sore losers who would like to do what Coleman did, but he got a little help from the ridiculous margin and his state government. Miller is not going to be able to delay Murkowski's seating til june, simply because he has been rejected much more unambiguously and decisively.

I'm not going to vote for now, but I have a feeling Miller will probably end up the bigger sore loser in the end. I doubt he'll ever formally concede, and I wouldn't even put it past him to show up at the Capitol Building on January 4 and demand to be seated.

Part of me says we'll have to see how long Joe Miller drags this one out. If he graciously concedes in the near future, Coleman wins the sore loser competition.

The other part of me says that the margin of victory in Minnesota was so razor-thin that Norm Coleman had at least a somewhat-legitimate claim over his challenge (at least in the beginning). In contrast, Lisa Murkowski clearly won, and the margin of victory isn't even that close...and Joe Miller is trying his best to steal an election where there is an obvious winner. Side by side, Mr. Miller seems to be committing the bigger crime here.

To me, comparing the two cases is like comparing apples and oranges (different, albeit similar items of the same shape and size that you would find in the same aisle of your local grocery store), not apples and baby wolverines.

Miller suing to overturn the voter intent standard (any misspellings nix a vote, and he apparently does not like cursive handwriting either) would be a frivolous lawsuit (e.g., to deviate from that would be unconstitutional),  and he intends to do that apparently, and that makes him way, way out there.

It's not frivolous to sue the state to make it adhere to the letter of state law, which appears to require the person written in match the name on the list.   Federal standards might overrule that, but just based on Alaska state law, he has a case.

I agree - a losing one - based on both Alaska and Federal precedents. Any ambiguity in the statute (and it is ambiguous), will be resolved in a way that hews to Court precedents; otherwise the statute will be overturned. Miller loses either way.

Even if 100% of his challenges were upheld (including ones written out correctly but in cursive), he still wouldn't have enough.

Thus, it's frivolous

Write-in: Murkowski

It's funny how the people who are whining the loudest about Miller challenging votes are the same ones who openly call for Democrats to blatantly cheat in order to win their elections by any means necessary.

Actually, the only ones who benefit from Miller's bickerings are democrats. Murkowski wasn't a teabagger, but at least she was a mainstream republican. If Miller manages to prevents her from being seated for as much time as Coleman managed with Franken, the democrats' share of the Senate seats will be 53.5% instead of 53%. That won't change much things, but it can only help.

Murkowski won.

It sounds like Miller is coming to that very conclusion: http://www.adn.com/2010/11/13/1552772/murkowski-continues-to-win-most.html (http://www.adn.com/2010/11/13/1552772/murkowski-continues-to-win-most.html)

"JUNEAU -- GOP nominee Joe Miller won't spend a lot of time, energy and effort fighting over ballots in Alaska's still-undecided U.S. Senate race if the math doesn't add up in his favor, he said Saturday."

People citing Miller's ridiculous ballot challenges have clearly forgotten what Coleman was doing. There were plenty of ballots clearly marked for Franken but challenged on "voter intent" just because the vote for another office was Republican. There were also votes for McCain with the Senate race marked for Barkley or another third party or simply left blank that were also challenged under "voter intent".

At this point, I kind of desire that Miller sue, and go down in flames. He has proven himself extremely annoying, and needs to be further humiliated. What a dumb. Ideally, Murkowski will be just short of getting a plurality of the unchallenged ballots, and Miller can litigate the issue of whether cursive handwriting is unacceptable or not. :P

Miller, since Coleman had a legitimate case (at least at some point). It was clear since polls closed that Murkowski won this one. But she's a sore loser too for even running the write-in campaign after losing the primary.

But she lost the primary.

Though, I do like it when a race has a third viable candidate that doesn't just split the vote.  I'm torn between anger over her preventing Miller from winning, and some joy that Alaskans got more than two viable options.

Sure, but the fact that it seems that the at large Alaskan electorate apparently wanted her to remain their Senator defuses her sore loserness (though she is obviously still something of a sore loser, just nowhere to the degree of the other two).

We will see if that holds after counting the remaining absentee, questioned and other ballots.  If it does, Miller won't sue.  If it doesn't, he will.

Christine Jennings? ;)

Bob Dornan

This is just lol: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20023883-503544.html

Well, this settles the poll question.

Anyone would think he'd been reading this thread and thought it necessary to defend his honour or something.

While that article is hilarious, Norm Coleman is still the biggest sore loser.

Joe Miller

Bump.

Write-in : Ségolène Royal.

Marilyn Musgrave.

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