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Title: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 03, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
   Regional Protection Party Convention  
February 2011
Chicago, Illinois

Activity. Integrity. Experience. Leadership    
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Party Sign-in Sheet:
Senator North Carolina Yankee - Party Chairman (Presiding)
Governor A-bob
Fmr. Governor Swedish Cheese
Emperor PiT
Assemblyman Inks.LWC
Taft4Prez
Fmr. Governor Tmthforu94
Johannus Calvinus Libertas
Fmr. Assemblyman junkie
Fmr. President afleitch
Senator ahduke99
Fmr. Assemblyman True Conservative
Fmr. Assemblyman Cathcon
Fmr. Lt. Governor tb75
Soon to be SoFE Franzl
Fmr. Governor Brandonh
Winfield
Dead0man
Mjh
ME Justice Big Bad Fab
Fmr. Governor RowanBrandon
Fmr. President Keystone Phil


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: California8429 on February 03, 2011, 07:52:37 PM
x Governor A-Bob of the Mideast


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on February 03, 2011, 08:02:07 PM
The Cheese is present

x Swedish Chesse of the Mideast


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on February 03, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
     X PiT (The Physicist)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 03, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
Present


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Mr. Taft Republican on February 03, 2011, 09:28:48 PM
X Taft4Prez


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 03, 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Timothy Floruski, born in 1994, is here.
 


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on February 04, 2011, 01:39:51 PM
Pentacostal Libertas is present and accounted for


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Junkie on February 04, 2011, 05:41:10 PM
Present


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: afleitch on February 04, 2011, 06:28:19 PM
Present.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 04, 2011, 06:32:08 PM
I'm here!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on February 04, 2011, 06:53:19 PM
I am attending.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Miles on February 04, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Present


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 04, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
Notice: If anyone would like to give a speech at this convention, please contact me as soon as possible, and we'll work something out. :)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 04, 2011, 07:58:29 PM
I am not sure when we will fit this in but we need a person to the chair the NE RPP. Its been vacant since RowanBrandon joined the DA in August 2009.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on February 04, 2011, 08:08:00 PM
[ X ] former one-term Mid East Assemblyman, and aging senior statesman Cathcon


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 04, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
  • tb75


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote
Post by: Franzl on February 04, 2011, 09:05:29 PM
Present. Have beer with me.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 04, 2011, 09:21:42 PM
Technically can't, sorry. :( Place a paper bag over it though and I'm golden. :)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 04, 2011, 09:55:24 PM
Technically can't, sorry. :( Place a paper bag over it though and I'm golden. :)

He wasn't talking to you. He was talking to me. Cheers!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Brandon H on February 04, 2011, 11:33:35 PM
Present


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Lincoln Republican on February 05, 2011, 12:06:06 AM
Winfield reporting for duty.

Let's get this show on the road.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: dead0man on February 05, 2011, 12:10:13 AM
yo


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Mjh on February 05, 2011, 12:25:49 AM
Present


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 05, 2011, 12:46:13 AM
Who's house is this!??!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: big bad fab on February 05, 2011, 04:11:18 AM
X Mideast Justice "I Am The Law" big bad fab


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Rowan on February 05, 2011, 04:44:46 PM
The king has arrived.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 06, 2011, 12:59:06 AM
Keystone Phil is present.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 01:41:55 AM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on February 07, 2011, 02:04:07 AM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.

???


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 02:07:29 AM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.

???

What part of renouncing and resigning my membership in the Regional Protection Party don't you understand?


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Fritz on February 07, 2011, 05:26:05 PM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.

???

What part of renouncing and resigning my membership in the Regional Protection Party don't you understand?

You do realize you have to do this in the new register thread?


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 06:22:37 PM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.

???

What part of renouncing and resigning my membership in the Regional Protection Party don't you understand?

You do realize you have to do this in the new register thread?

You mean like here:


I renounce and resign my party affiliation in the Regional Protection Party, and wish to be listed having no party affiliation.

I further change my registration to Idaho.


I frankly was not sure if I had to do it with the party or some Atlasia functionary.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Fritz on February 07, 2011, 07:10:27 PM
Sorry, I missed that post.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 07:19:51 PM

I was not sure where to post it. 

I just really want out.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 07:34:13 PM

I was not sure where to post it. 

I just really want out.

Aint you ever heard the Eagles before?

Atlasia is run like the Hotel California.

You can check out anytime you like, but you may never leave.

Such a great song. :)



Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 07:53:10 PM

I was not sure where to post it. 

I just really want out.

Aint you ever heard the Eagles before?

Atlasia is run like the Hotel California.

You can check out anytime you like, but you may never leave.

Such a great song. :)



I always thought it sucked.

Don Henley such better stuff in the 80's.  Dirty Laundry for instance.

And as for Atlasia, you can I wonder if the senators from this party would vote against streaming the process of leaving.  Desperate for votes, I guess, and they are slipping through their fingers.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 08:02:31 PM

I was not sure where to post it.  

I just really want out.

Aint you ever heard the Eagles before?

Atlasia is run like the Hotel California.

You can check out anytime you like, but you may never leave.

Such a great song. :)



I always thought it sucked.

Don Henley such better stuff in the 80's.  Dirty Laundry for instance.

And as for Atlasia, you can I wonder if the senators from this party would vote against streaming the process of leaving.  Desperate for votes, I guess, and they are slipping through their fingers.

Boys of Summer was his best period.

I said it in one of the PM's I think. De-registration was messy when it was in place and it was removed because of a very complicated legal crisis it created back in 2008 I beleive. This is why there is opposition to it. I don't think any such standards as placed in the current bill will serve to prevent that from happening again.



Edit: The presence of a Don't PM list allows people who want out to not be PMed so they can sit out three elections in a row without being harrassed. The activity requirements purge them from the rolls at that point. I don't see why you need to actively de-register when this standard is in place, unless its to avoid harassment, but as I said, there is the don't PM list. 


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 08:33:38 PM

I was not sure where to post it. 

I just really want out.

Aint you ever heard the Eagles before?

Atlasia is run like the Hotel California.

You can check out anytime you like, but you may never leave.

Such a great song. :)



I always thought it sucked.

Don Henley such better stuff in the 80's.  Dirty Laundry for instance.

And as for Atlasia, you can I wonder if the senators from this party would vote against streaming the process of leaving.  Desperate for votes, I guess, and they are slipping through their fingers.

Boys of Summer was his best period.

I said it in one of the PM's I think. De-registration was messy when it was in place and it was removed because of a very complicated legal crisis it created back in 2008 I beleive. This is why there is opposition to it. I don't think any such standards as placed in the current bill will serve to prevent that from happening again.


Not really, with a provision regarding voters facing charges.

Both Dirty Laundry and All She Wants To Do Is Dance are better.


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Edit: The presence of a Don't PM list allows people who want out to not be PMed so they can sit out three elections in a row without being harrassed. The activity requirements purge them from the rolls at that point. I don't see why you need to actively de-register when this standard is in place, unless its to avoid harassment, but as I said, there is the don't PM list. 

The unfortunate aspect is that some of us don't mind getting PM's from people on other subjects, but really don't to be, in your words, "harrassed," by PM's regarding Atlasia.

Don't worry, however, you are the sole person on mine, at least until the registration expires.

I think it could be an issue in the next election, and a good reason to vote against the RPP.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 07, 2011, 08:44:09 PM
Just an FYI in case anyone has forgotten the candidates different position on deregistration...:P

Deregistration: This wasn’t an issue I had thought about until recently when it came up, but after consideration, I would support deregistration.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on February 07, 2011, 08:50:00 PM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.

???


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2011, 08:51:44 PM
Could someone please post a link to the Don't PM list?

Thank you in advance. :)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 09:05:22 PM
Could someone please post a link to the Don't PM list?

Thank you in advance. :)

Click you name on the side of your posts.  Then click, "Personal Message Options."


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 09:11:58 PM
Just an FYI in case anyone has forgotten the candidates different position on deregistration...:P

Deregistration: This wasn’t an issue I had thought about until recently when it came up, but after consideration, I would support deregistration.

Unfortunately, the two RPP Senators, including the Party Chairman don't agree with you.  It is safer to vote against any candidate of the RPP to promote greater freedom of Atlasians.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
I hereby renounce and resign my membership in the Regional Protection Party.

X

J. J.


If that cannot be done:

I renounce and resign my party affiliation in the Regional Protection Party, and wish to be listed having no party affiliation.

I further change my registration to Idaho.

???

The follow up is here:


I was not sure where to post it. 

I just really want out.



Do you have another question?


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 07, 2011, 09:40:18 PM




Starting tomorrow, I will begin messaging members who have volunteered to speak at the convention. If anyone has not signed up yet and wants to, or unsure when they are speaking, please contact me ASAP.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on February 07, 2011, 09:43:52 PM
     Since I haven't seen anybody else do this yet, I'd like to wish you luck in your non-Atlasian pursuits, J. J.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 09:46:49 PM
    Since I haven't seen anybody else do this yet, I'd like to wish you luck in your non-Atlasian pursuits, J. J.

Thank you, but I wish I could get away, legitimately, without breaking the rules.  Ironically, the RPP is making it difficult.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on February 07, 2011, 09:50:13 PM
     Since I haven't seen anybody else do this yet, I'd like to wish you luck in your non-Atlasian pursuits, J. J.

Thank you, but I wish I could get away, legitimately, without breaking the rules.  Ironically, the RPP is making it difficult.

     De-registration has a rather checkered past in Atlasia. While I personally think that bringing it back is a great idea, I can't blame others for being more skeptical.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 09:50:54 PM
For your information the two RPP senators are not in the Senate to represent just the party. We have to make votes based on what we think is best for the country. It is my beleif that de-registration causes more problems then it solves. I am not the only one who holds this view and it was a broad consensus for almost two years. Obviously a majority of the Senate wants it now and as such it will be passed into law.

It is unfair, and shamefull to declare that a whole party opposes freedom simply because you disagree with the way two of its members vote and an issue dealing with Game Play not an in game issue. That is the epitome of opposing freedom and it is shamefull.


And J. J. I wasn't talking about the PM blocker in your profile. I was talking about a list established by the damn SoFE in the Secretary of Forum Elections thread towards the top of the board. And since you obviously didn't grasp the difference, please don't misdirect other people.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
For your information the two RPP senators are not in the Senate to represent just the party. We have to make votes based on what we think is best for the country. It is my beleif that de-registration causes more problems then it solves. I am not the only one who holds this view and it was a broad consensus for almost two years. Obviously a majority of the Senate wants it now and as such it will be passed into law.

Good for passage, as it ultimately expands rights of individuals.  Now, obviously, there should be an exemption for voters facing prosecution, but how many are there?

The Constitution of Atlasia, or whatever the hell the name is, gives citizens the right to assemble.  Implied in that right is the right to disassemble, even from Atlasia.  Yet the FPP, its Senators and Chairman don't wish to.

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It is unfair, and shamefull to declare that a whole party opposes freedom simply because you disagree with the way two of its members vote and an issue dealing with Game Play not an in game issue. That is the epitome of opposing freedom and it is shamefull.

There are two members of the RPP in the Senate; both voted against it.  That is not "Game Play," as you put it, but policy.  The things that are well in control of the Senate within the simulation.  It is like saying, "Play by the rules.  I'll make the rules."  That is shameful!

The way the rules now would, within the game, I, or any other member, cannot leave the game without breaking the rules of the game.  I would have to create a fake account, post numerous (75 times?) register as a voter, and possibly vote, in order to have my registration canceled.  If I obey the rules, I cannot deregister.  That is shameful!

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And J. J. I wasn't talking about the PM blocker in your profile. I was talking about a list established by the damn SoFE in the Secretary of Forum Elections thread towards the top of the board. And since you obviously didn't grasp the difference, please don't misdirect other people.

Where is it?  Interestingly, even though I've had several PM's from the powers that be, there has never been a link and none on this thread either?

BTW:  If you want a reason to vote against the FPP, I think you just found it.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 07, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Well, thankfully, JJ, a bill is about to pass that will make deregistration legal. :) So once Snowguy closes that vote and Fritz signs it, citizens can finally deregister from Atlasia if they wish. :)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 10:34:51 PM
Well, thankfully, JJ, a bill is about to pass that will make deregistration legal. :) So once Snowguy closes that vote and Fritz signs it, citizens can finally deregister from Atlasia if they wish. :)

Very good, but seeing the state of this party and its leadership, I just might stay around, and least through the next election.  Somebody asked me to, and I may grant his wish.

You will note that I reregistered in the RPP and I have requested to speak.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 10:46:47 PM
You don't have to enagage in any of that or break the rules to leave. Weren't you listening? All you have to do is stop voting and let your membership tick tick tick away with the clock.


And of course the law will soon be passed, so this crisis can be brought to an end with everyone satisfied I hope.


I have never had someone claim that the only way to be for freedom is to agree with him 100% on every issue. Oh, yea, actually I do remember someone now. Someone who talked about freedom a lot. ;)

J. J. you don't even understand how the current setup works, how can you claim to hold the only pro-freedom position?

As for the SoFE's thread, why don't you take a look through some of the threads on this board and  stop relying on somone directing you to everything. :P It shouldn't be hard to find, its not like its stickied at the top of the board or anything.






Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 10:54:06 PM
It appears we don't have time to do any procedural stuff before the speeches and I would prefer not to do that stuff mixed together. So we will handle all such business after the speeches are done.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 11:09:52 PM
You don't have to enagage in any of that or break the rules to leave. Weren't you listening? All you have to do is stop voting and let your membership tick tick tick away with the clock.

I would still be a voter, even though I would choose not to associate myself with Atlasia.

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And of course the law will soon be passed, so this crisis can be brought to an end with everyone satisfied I hope.

Actually, you persuaded me to "delay" my departure.

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I have never had someone claim that the only way to be for freedom is to agree with him 100% on every issue. Oh, yea, actually I do remember someone now. Someone who talked about freedom a lot. ;)

J. J. you don't even understand how the current setup works, how can you claim to hold the only pro-freedom position?

I never claimed that I had the only right position; I do claim that the current RPP members of the Senate do not.  I heard some say recently that they would would not like to be misinterpreted.  Hummm.

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As for the SoFE's thread, why don't you take a look through some of the threads on this board and  stop relying on somone directing you to everything. :P It shouldn't be hard to find, its not like its stickied at the top of the board or anything.

Since I was not the only one to ask, it doesn't seem to be exactly clear.  Interestingly, I was looking for things like the registration requirements earlier and could not readily find them.  Having a separate list, or referring to it by name, would have been helpful.  It might be clear to you, but not the rest of us.





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Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 11:21:22 PM
You don't have to enagage in any of that or break the rules to leave. Weren't you listening? All you have to do is stop voting and let your membership tick tick tick away with the clock.

I would still be a voter, even though I would choose not to associate myself with Atlasia.

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And of course the law will soon be passed, so this crisis can be brought to an end with everyone satisfied I hope.

Actually, you persuaded me to "delay" my departure.

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I have never had someone claim that the only way to be for freedom is to agree with him 100% on every issue. Oh, yea, actually I do remember someone now. Someone who talked about freedom a lot. ;)

J. J. you don't even understand how the current setup works, how can you claim to hold the only pro-freedom position?

I never claimed that I had the only right position; I do claim that the current RPP members of the Senate do not.  I heard some say recently that they would would not like to be misinterpreted.  Hummm.

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As for the SoFE's thread, why don't you take a look through some of the threads on this board and  stop relying on somone directing you to everything. :P It shouldn't be hard to find, its not like its stickied at the top of the board or anything.

Since I was not the only one to ask, it doesn't seem to be exactly clear.  Interestingly, I was looking for things like the registration requirements earlier and could not readily find them.  Having a separate list, or referring to it by name, would have been helpful.  It might be clear to you, but not the rest of us.
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1. Yes, but only for three elections, then you would be removed from the voter roll for innactivity.
2. As I recall, I asked and was told emphatically no. Does that mean you have changed your mind?
3. Once again, do I not have the freedom to vote how I think best for the game? Does the Southeast not deserve an independent minded Senator, who calls them as he sees them? My votes in the Senate are in the best interests of my constituents regardless of what party they are in. As PiT said, the history is mixed on this issue with many people taking a different opinion on it. The support and opposition is completely bipartisan.
4. Why not check the "Introduction to Atlasia" thread (Its also sticked). It has the voter requirements, the parties, the gov't structure and whole cadre of information as up to date as Marokai Blue decides to make it, since he created the thread when he was AG. 


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2011, 11:27:25 PM
Links (Because somehow this devil still has a heart) Department of Federal Elections (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=120461.0)

Introduction to Atlasia (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=95897.0)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 11:49:35 PM

1. Yes, but only for three elections, then you would be removed from the voter roll for innactivity.

Three elections is three elections too many.  That might be why the Senate, sans a few members, had the good judgment to change the rule.

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2. As I recall, I asked and was told emphatically no. Does that mean you have changed your mind?

Yes, I have been told that if I wish to deregister, I would have to do it after the rule was adopted.  I am not doing so at this point.

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3. Once again, do I not have the freedom to vote how I think best for the game? Does the Southeast not deserve an independent minded Senator, who calls them as he sees them? My votes in the Senate are in the best interests of my constituents regardless of what party they are in. As PiT said, the history is mixed on this issue with many people taking a different opinion on it. The support and opposition is completely bipartisan.

Actually, the final vote, which I have not seen declared shows that the sole party to support it fully is the RPP.  https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=130658.60  It hasn't been declared, according to the thread.

You have the right, but the question is on your judgment in voting that way.  Does you judgment truly represent your constituents and is it in the best interest of Atlasia.

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4. Why not check the "Introduction to Atlasia" thread (Its also sticked). It has the voter requirements, the parties, the gov't structure and whole cadre of information as up to date as Marokai Blue decides to make it, since he created the thread when he was AG. 

I did, but it is a nine page thread.  Nor did a search yield it.

BTW:  For the common folk, like me, where is the "SoAE" thread.  I'm sure that is insider jargon for another title, but why not just post a link or a location.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Links (Because somehow this devil still has a heart) Department of Federal Elections (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=120461.0)

Introduction to Atlasia (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=95897.0)

Thanks for finally posting that, with the correct name.  I went through the first five pages and didn't see a 'do not contact" reference.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 08, 2011, 12:22:35 AM
Links (Because somehow this devil still has a heart) Department of Federal Elections (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=120461.0)

Introduction to Atlasia (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=95897.0)

Thanks for finally posting that, with the correct name.  I went through the first five pages and didn't see a 'do not contact" reference.

I did have the correct name I said the "Secretary of Federal Election's thread. The Department is run by its secretary, so its the Secretary's thread.

Look at the last two pages (13 and 14 I think), it should be on one of them. There is also a thread from back in late December which I would dig up but my slow connection won't let me load but a few threads, while I am downloading an update.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 08, 2011, 01:09:48 AM
Links (Because somehow this devil still has a heart) Department of Federal Elections (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=120461.0)

Introduction to Atlasia (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=95897.0)

Thanks for finally posting that, with the correct name.  I went through the first five pages and didn't see a 'do not contact" reference.

I did have the correct name I said the "Secretary of Federal Election's thread. The Department is run by its secretary, so its the Secretary's thread.

Look at the last two pages (13 and 14 I think), it should be on one of them. There is also a thread from back in late December which I would dig up but my slow connection won't let me load but a few threads, while I am downloading an update.

So, basically, to get to the point where someone, or many someones can find it, you have to go to thread with a different title and then dig through 13-14 pages to find it.  And you expect people to find it with a casual reference.

The link is here: 


Six weeks old, and you expect everyone to know where it is.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 08, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
I didn't expect anything. When we get a new SoFE (since Teddy left), then he can find a way to make it more visible. I do beleive FRanzl will be confirmed tomorrow (What the hell is this? Annie. Everything happens tomorrow)


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 08, 2011, 01:30:17 AM
I didn't expect anything. When we get a new SoFE (since Teddy left), then he can find a way to make it more visible.

You could have posted the link; I did.  I'm very concerned about the future of the RPP, especially since others requested the same explanation.

Where is the signing of the deregistration law/rule/game regulation?


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 08, 2011, 02:03:13 AM
I didn't expect anything. When we get a new SoFE (since Teddy left), then he can find a way to make it more visible.

You could have posted the link; I did.  I'm very concerned about the future of the RPP, especially since others requested the same explanation.

Where is the signing of the deregistration law/rule/game regulation?

Did you not read my earlier post. I was downloading an important update that was very essential. I have a dial up internet connection and mult-tasking isn't on the agenda. It was taking me two minutes just too load this thread at points. Imagine if I tried to load a thread that I had not opened in weeks, it risked jamming the connection or even breaking it, ruining my download.  Am I supposed to abandon seven hours of download just so I can please you with instant satisfaction? Have some patience. If you don't like it, pay for my upgrade in connection and higher bill damn it. >:(. I certainly can't afford it with the crap thatst going on.

I would appreciate not being lectured on the direction of the RPP because of something that is managed by a gov't official and thus any criticisms should be directed at President Fritz as to how that is managed or how visible it is.


I would think the White House thread, wouldn't you? I am sure you have already been on it since you dug up the link to the deregistration bill. Use some common sense if you aren't given a link. It isn't hard to deduce something like "Secretary of Forum Elections", "Department of Forum Elections" The both have "of forum elections". And Secretaries run Departments in the Gov't in both RL and here. Its not hard to figure out.


Can you stop criticizing and attacking me now? I find it highly annoying that someone who doesn't know all that has been done over the last year starts bitcing about problems as if he is the only one who sees it and is the only one who cares. What do you think we have been doing? We have completely reorganized the administration of elections, we created the Registrar General, We have had the Introduction thread for two years. Efforts have been made, however to someone who hasn't seen the progress, all you see is the long road ahead. Its very disrespectfull to those who fought for these changes like Fritz and Franzl and Marokai to then act as nothign has been done.

And stop posting in this convention thread. If you want to continue, unblock my damn PM, if not thats your problem, but this thread is for a purpose and it isn't to show you the ropes.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 08, 2011, 02:35:31 PM
Lets try and keep it to convention business now.



If you can't find something like a thread or the Wiki, PM a respected Atlasian (Fritz, myself, Franzl, tmth etc) and they will be glad to guide you in the right direction.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 08, 2011, 02:37:32 PM
I will be seeking the party nomination for president.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 08, 2011, 07:33:33 PM
I will be seeking the party nomination for president.

I don't like primaries or even endorsement votes really. I prefer that if someone wants to run to let them and then have them colloraborate and work strategically to ensure they don't split the party's vote. Its builds party unity and cooperation. It also helps build trust and respect for one another.

If I were to hold one though, I would only do so with assurances that the loser would drop out of the race.

The other problem is time. We have planned several sets of speeches for this week and to have an endorsement vote would delay those significantly.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: J. J. on February 08, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
I will be seeking the party nomination for president.

I don't like primaries or even endorsement votes really. I prefer that if someone wants to run to let them and then have them colloraborate and work strategically to ensure they don't split the party's vote. Its builds party unity and cooperation. It also helps build trust and respect for one another.

If I were to hold one though, I would only do so with assurances that the loser would drop out of the race.

The other problem is time. We have planned several sets of speeches for this week and to have an endorsement vote would delay those significantly.

I decline to drop out.

I can assure the votes that voters that I will not be collaborating with any other candidate for president.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 08, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
I will be seeking the party nomination for president.

I don't like primaries or even endorsement votes really. I prefer that if someone wants to run to let them and then have them colloraborate and work strategically to ensure they don't split the party's vote. Its builds party unity and cooperation. It also helps build trust and respect for one another.

If I were to hold one though, I would only do so with assurances that the loser would drop out of the race.

The other problem is time. We have planned several sets of speeches for this week and to have an endorsement vote would delay those significantly.

I decline to drop out.

I can assure the votes that voters that I will not be collaborating with any other candidate for president.

Then there won't be an endorsement vote. Sorry. There is no point in having one if its essentially meaningless ,especially if it delays the proceedings.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 08, 2011, 09:41:00 PM
I will make an announcement on my presidential election plans shortly.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 09, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Night 1 - Activity

Good Evening,

Tonight, we will begin Convention Speeches. We will have several speakers who will speak on a variety of issues on each night, and each night will conclude with a Keynote Address. Here is a list of Atlasians giving the keynote address for each of the 4 nights:

Night 1 - RPP Chairman and Senator North Carolina Yankee
Night 2 - Senator ahduke99
Night 3 - Senator Dallasfan65
Night 4 - Former Governor and Senator Tmthforu94

The floor is now open to speeches (you know who you are :P). If anyone would still like to give a speech, please contact me ASAP.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on February 09, 2011, 08:25:52 PM
Journey of Vision

Fellow Members of the RPP and honored guests: We do indeed have a golden opportunity to change the course of Atlasian politics. Am I aware that the Atlasian Left has had a firm grip in the control of governance for quite some time? Indeed I've been well aware of that. Yet we stand here as both a loyal yet firm and conscientious opposition to the radical progressivism that they have led the country into. Changes do indeed need to be made. As the former American President John F. Kennedy once said,   "The Chinese use two brush strokes to write the word 'crisis.' One brush stroke stands for danger; the other for opportunity. In a crisis, be aware of the danger - but recognize the opportunity." By communicating the need to balance the budget, By reforming education in light of global competition , By adding more of the dynamics of foreign  policy to the game, spearheading an energy plan that stewards both environmental concerns alongside the desire to free ourselves from the need for foreign oil, We can indeed make Atlasia a place of prosperity. 

We all indeed recognize the need for the national government to have a budget to run. Like a family it needs to be wise how much it spends and what it spends it's finances on. Since my arrival, I've seen the leadership pandering to of all nations a ruthless dictatorship like China for aid. This should prove to all Atlasians that we are in the mist of an economic crises. We all recognize that defense is a needed expenditure that must be dealt  with in a sensitive way. The high corporate taxes are choking the life of our economy to stimulate job growth could we consider a cut of at least 50%. So in light of these matters we should cut non-educational spending by at least 5% percent with the eventuality of a Balanced Budget Amendment. This would stabilize the Atlasian books. We also would seek to have regular and thorough audits of the Federal Reserve. Is it in the best interest of Atlasia to have our monetary policy dictated by a private firm rather than our national representatives? Many of my fellow advocates of a center-right government think that it's not the best of ideas that a private company handle the finances of the government. These audits would compel the government to maintain a high level of accountability. Do we think that the current administration would put these safeguards in? No. They want to keep the spending going with high tax rates for the individual. We as centrists, libertarians and conservatives must keep petitioning the administration over this redress and when that day comes that we have the sacred responsibility of serving the Atlasian people, we govern like it. Our city on a hill is in need of a makeover back to time tested ideas that promote freedom and responsible government. 

Where do we stand with regarding the education of our younger citizens? The current path of public school supremacy is quite detrimental to our families. I have heard of recent legislation or judical rulings that attack what is known as homeschooling. I am friends with many homeschoolers and they were glad to have their parents educate them. Often with these families it is beacuse of religious conviction and mistrust of a failing public school system that promote idealologies that those parents strongly oppose. Why should parents be forced to send their children to such public schools? School choice should be protected. Why isn't the freeflow and competition of various scientific ideas such as the debate over evolution vs inteligent design allowed in classes today? President Lincoln said that the philosophy of the classroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next. Public schools should be a place that all the major political and economic theories of how government should be ran can be discussed.  It is absolutely horrendous that professors are being denied tenure beacuse they disagree with their domninant liberal and often socialstic colleagues. Isn't discrimination beacuse of political leanings in the workplace illegal in this country? This is why we should support of a national version of The Charter School Act that was recently passed in the Mideast region 

What I believe is coming to be a potential issue in the game is the lack of a place for foreign policy. Adding this to the game would add a much needed dynamic. As many of our economic issues concern trade relations with other nations, the need for the foreign policy dynamic is going to become more key. 

Reducing our need for foreign oil is on the minds of Atlasians of every political stripe, but what direction should we go? Yes clean energy options such as hydrogen should be explored within the market system as independent as current law allows. I'm asking those in big energy to work with the EPA to come up with ways to drill for oil in ways that will lessen the damage that will come with drilling. With that I'm asking the environmentalists to let go of the bans on offshore drilling, the ban on drilling in ANWAR, and the further exploration of inland oil and natural gas deposits. 

If we do these things, Atlasia will become much stronger. Let us do justly, love mercy and walk humbly. 

As my regional governor, Tmthforu94 led pragmatically and though him and I have had our differences of view on policy, I believe him as the best selection amongst conservatives, moderates and libertarians. 

Thank you and may God bless and keep Atlasia


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Roll Call Vote)
Post by: Mr. Taft Republican on February 09, 2011, 09:14:33 PM
Ladies and gentlemen of the RPP I apologise for my delayed entry. But here I am, and I have a slight message for you about our situation.

   Atlasia is a place that requires the utmost attention of its executive, and as I know them only one candidate has had the dedication to keep pace with this game, that is Tmthforu94. It goes beyond his terms as Governor and Senator, in which he debated bills with a fury, and led the Mideast in a very active fashion, all the while keeping the statue page updated. When our own appointed (and confirmed) Attorney General, would not take the time to do his job, Tmth stepped in and did what needed to be done. This election is more than a threat to the Atlasian left’s dominance, it is hope that the right can finally get a chance to put up or shut up, and with our candidate we know we will have a good hand at the helm.
   More than proper policy, we need an active executive to direct Atlasia in the proper direction. We can only hope that it would also lead to a renewed Senate, as we all saw with the stimulus, a three day bill took two weeks, and Yankee began several manhunts that day. Tmth has a consistent record of activity and is capable of bringing vitality into this game, which I personally know it is in desperate need. One of the few things keeping our Senate back is the fact that the majority of them are not first termers, some not even second termers. This has created in the Senate a hierarchy, and it’s difficult to challenge such a thing as an entrenched political machine. To pump new life into the game, we need to lower the posting requirements to give new players a fair chance at gaining an office. Some say that’s what the regions are for, but regions can only give so many people a chance to learn the game.
   Tmthforu94 has a consistent record of being active, and his policies point that he will do all he can to make the learning curb easier for new players. There is no doubt that come Election Day there is one obvious choice.

Tmthforu94 for the next President of Atlasia!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 09, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
Good Evening Ladies and Gentleman!

Its great too see so many dedicated and hard working members of the RPP gathered here in the windy city of Chicago for our February convention. We have before as a very important election, in which I fully hope that we elect Tmth/Dallas to the White House. These two passionate and dedicated servants have a record of both passionate advocacy of core beliefs and important issues while simultaneously demonstrating an ability to work in a bipartisan manner to advance policies to improve Atlasia. Whether it’s a strong focus on education or the emphasis on the importance of balancing the budget, there is no stronger team then that of Tmth/Dallas.

I am sure most of you have heard about, thought about, argued over, or in some way dealt with the issue that I am going to discuss here tonight. That issue is an important aspect of the game. That issue defines the tenor and tone as well as the quality and substance of the political debates in Atlasia.  It determines the success or failure of officeholders and that most critical factor, that of the level of fun which this game possesses for people. That issue, my friends, is the problem of Activity. 

Activity however is not just a problem. To the passionate and dedicated people in this game, activity is a accurate description of their performance and an appraisal of their dedication.  Tmthforu94 can definitely be considered as one of these people. It must be remembered that activity or rather inactivity is also an infectious disease. One can hardly claim that inactive politicians don’t result from an inactive, dormant populace. Efforts aimed at targeting this indirectly, whether it be from reforming the constitution like was done last summer or simply moving around information is only a marginal change. What we need is new level and era of involvement, not by politicians for they couldn’t drive a heard of cattle, but by the citizens. We need more active and engaged hard journalism. We even could probably use some opinion journalism as well in this game. We need issue advocacy on the part of citizens to pressure elected officials and lobby for their causes.

We need a pool of people from which the next generation of officials and candidates will come from. We can’t do this without people and we can get new people by having as a our first step saying were we definitely won’t look for them. It should be remembered that the most notorious Atlasian in the last two years was recruited on site, despite his claims at one point to the contrary. ;) The risk of getting a bad apple is the same no matter the source of that recruit. Tmth promises to continue reasonable efforts started under President fritz to bring new people into the game in a controlled process. From that process we have seen the arrival of new people, some of which show promise. 

I have long said that no matter what we did, we were never going to be able to legislate activity. Whether it was Game Moderator reform in 2009, the constitutional consolidation in mid 2010, or the long term efforts at improving the wiki. All are good and have been a benefit to Atlasia. But in the end, we are less active then we were in 2009, despite higher turnout in elections.

And contrary to some of the liberal talking heads, we don’t have some advantage going into this election. The numbers alone give a huge advantage to our opponents. However we would be doing a disservice by not contesting the White House, regardless of what the final result is. With that said I have complete confidence that tmth can win this election and that he is the best choice to lead this nation and to elect him would be a superb strategic move at a critical juncture in the game (points to the one person who can identify the source of this line, he knows who he is. ;) ).


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 09, 2011, 11:03:53 PM
tl;dr


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Franzl on February 10, 2011, 01:25:54 PM
My friends and fellow Regional Protectionists,

I'm proud to stand here today before you in preparation for this historic election. It is indeed an honor to be member of this party and joining it after the Democratic Alliance ceased to exist was one of the best decisions I have made in this game.

But enough about me! We have important work ahead of us. Very important work. Atlaisia has an important decision to make. We can vote to confirm left-wing governance. The policies of raising and raising the taxes of hard working Atlasians to the point they won't be able to live anymore. The policies of radical redistribution that would force the Atlasian taxpayer to pick up the tab in order to fund the lifestyles of people that don't work for them. The policies of more government intrusion in our everyday lives, forcing a minority's views of morality and justice on the rest of us.

Well I'm here today to tell you that Atlasia can do better! Much better! By electing two pragmatists to the office of President and Vice President. And these pragmatists are Tmthforu and Dallasfan!

It is essential that we stand united as a party to present our case to the Atlasian people. What exactly do we stand for? Simply put, we stand for freedom, economic success and responsible investments in our future!

We are a conservative party, after all, and we believe that equality of opportunity is our primary goal. We're not here to make sure everyone has an equal slice of the economic pie. We understand that personal responsibility is the most important thing to encourage. And we encourage precisely that by enacting sensible “compassionately conservative“ policies.

In our quest to strengthen Atlasia and allow Atlasians to achieve their greatest potential, it is important that we keep in mind that government itself is not the enemy. We undoubtedly have members in this party that will disagree with my thoughts here, but it is important for Atlasia that we resist radicalism, whether on the left or the right. As conservatives, in order to ensure opportunity for all, we must recognize that government does indeed have a role in helping people that cannot help themselves. Obtaining proper education and healthcare, irrespective of one's origin, provides a necessary basis for upward social mobility. It cannot and should not be our goal to reject government as a matter of principle while ignoring the problems our citizens face.

Atlasia is not a place where a person's future should be dependent on what their parents were able to achieve. Policies that make it possible for only the wealthy to achieve economic success are not conservative! Rather, they are socialism. Yes, socialism! Our mutual belief in the powers of the free market mean that government policy should not benefit any one group over another.

At the same time, we need to make sure that government programs are effective in doing what they're supposed to do. Radical expansion of the welfare state, as proposed by our leftist Atlasians, does not solve any of our structural problems. Ironically, it turns these problems into an acceptable state of being by neither offering sufficient incentives nor the necessary aid in order to advance oneself. To go even further, left-wing policies are an insult to Atlasians that tell them they aren't capable of caring for themselves without the government dole!

I am confident that future President Tmthforu is as pragmatic as I hope to be, and it is absolutely imperative that we do whatever is necessary to aid his campaign efforts.

Atlasia deserves more than the alternatives are offering. Let us vote for a bright future, a future in which Atlasians can look forward to being able to achieve their fullest potential! An Atlasia with efficient government that does what is necessary towards these goals and no more! No more!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: afleitch on February 10, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen. I apologise for my inactivity for the past few weeks; this has been due to personal problems which I am sure you will understand. I have been able to continue in my role as Mideast Assemblyman but at a reduced capacity.

If I can for just a second speak break with the agenda and speak to the convention and to the country at large

It is clear that Atlasia this month has a unique opportunity to elect a great public citizen, an outstanding consensus politician and a dear friend to the highest office in the land. Let this convention produce a quiet ripple growing to a steady wave to sweep Tmthforu into office.

People often ask what makes a great President? The truth of the matter is we do not know, we do not know when he is elected, or when he serves and even when he has left office and all that can be done is to reflect on the decisions he has made. I have had the pleasure to have served in the Office of the Presidency on two occasions. My most recent was a mistake; it was a  mistake because I didn't defend what the office was against those who campaigned about what the office should be. They won the battle and reformed the office in their image unintentionally negating, almost but not quite, the achievements of their predecessors and indeed their ultimate successor. Therefore the Presidency can no longer be a quiet office.

So why entrust the office to a quiet man? Why entrust the office to a modest, humble politician like Isaac? The answer is simple. Voters should not, should never be overawed by the Presidency. The President should reflect the desires of the people, should reflect but also temper their mood and should oversee the due process of government and of the legislature. This should be reflected in the stroke of his pen as he signs bills into law or pauses to reflect before casting a veto.

I trust Isaac. I trust him to deliver on his promises. I trust him to be a better President than I was or could be. I trust him to engage with the Senate, to select a balanced cabinet and put the interests of the game and the country first.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 10, 2011, 05:33:27 PM
I think I want Usher's "More" to play before I give my speech. I'm that monster in the mirror.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on February 10, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
I think I want Usher's "More" to play before I give my speech. I'm that monster in the mirror.

     Only if I get Dawn Of Victory by Rhapsody Of Fire for mine. :P


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 10, 2011, 05:43:14 PM
I think I want Usher's "More" to play before I give my speech. I'm that monster in the mirror.

     Only if I get Dawn Of Victory by Rhapsody Of Fire for mine. :P

If you really want more, then scream it out louder! We'll bring out that fire together!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Rowan on February 10, 2011, 07:43:43 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, I was invited to speak to you on the topic of integrity. That's quite an ironic topic for me to speak on you might say. After all, I am the one that flip-flopped on political parties, lost faith in the Northeast during my time as Governor, and has been prosecuted by the AG. However, during all of that time, I have held true to my beliefs and convictions. I do not "go with the flow" or go whichever way the wind decides to blow. My values are my values and there is nothing that will change. My record in the Senate and in the Governor's Mansion says as much.

That is why I stand before you and seek my party's nomination for Senator of the Northeast. You know where I stand on the issues and I hope you can place your trust in me to do the right things to get our country moving in the right direction. Our current Senate has put us on an unsustainable path that we might never get a chance to change. However small our window of opportunity is, it is still open. That opportunity is now; this moment is ours.

I also rise before you to speak on behalf of a dear friend. Our troubles are too big and our problems too large for the left to continue to run this nation. It is time for our country to elect Isaac to our presidency! He is a man of great integrity and honor and I know that he will serve our country well. However, words will not make this a reality. I need all of you to stand up and get to work to put Isaac in the White House!

Now, it wouldn't be my style to not stir things up. Atlasia has problems regarding integrity, the biggest of which is the use of sock accounts and those with multiple accounts. The people who engage in this behavior should be ashamed of themselves. I will hunt down those who commit these egregious acts. I will make no distinction between these criminals and those that harbor them. Enough is enough and it's time for a change!

Thank you and may God bless Atlasia!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: J. J. on February 10, 2011, 08:08:31 PM
Hi, I'm J. J.  I'm running for President and my campaign is a joke.  The issues that I'm raising however, are not jokes.

We talk about what Atlasia.  Here is what has been said about it in the past.

PiT said that Atlasia was, …the golden dream; that the people are free from the despotism of overarching unitarian government…

Duke warned, ”We cannot afford to fall victim to the big government bureaucrats in the capital who want to remove all of our power and make us just another yes’mam rubberstamp to their agenda.” –

“We must elect senators who will pass good legislation, repeal existing bad legislation, and defeat proposed bad legislation.” Brandon H. advised.

These comments are from 2008 RPP Platform. 

The golden dream is tarnished brass, our senators seem to do the opposite and if you try to find statute in Atlasia, you will see “big government” in action, a morass of needless and confusing regulations.

I’ve tried looking through statute, using Wiki, and the Atlas search function to look at rights of citizenship in Atlasia.  I never found the statute I was looking for; well, I have not been too active and didn’t understand Atlasia, I’ve been told.  It took experienced and active members, some I’ve actually quoted, several days to find it. 

I’ve seen the active members in action in the last debate.  One, a current nominee for attorney general, didn’t realize that we had ceased hostilities in foreign wars, and the other couldn’t explain why we were still paying for it!  One “enlightened” member criticized me for not drafting legislation, without realizing that it was currently pending in the Senate (I actually had inquired with the President on its status). 

This is the state of affairs in the Atlasia.  You don’t have to know what is going on, because nobody else does!

We complain about the lack of participation in the game that is Atlasia.  Part of the reason is because the game is too complex; it needs changes, quickly.  It is next for impossible for someone who doesn’t live in the Senate to participate (and in the Senate, it might be just as hard).

If you vote for me, I’ll try to change that.  Here is how:

1.  Veto any measure before the Senate, until the Senate codifies the rules relating to voting and membership in general in a single, assessable document.

2.  After that, veto any measure until the Senate requires a description of each bill, accurate, to be added to the title so that the bill can be easily searched.

3.  I will establish a registry of passed legislation so that, at least, the newer laws of Atlasia will be in a centralized place.

4.  I will establish a similar registry for executive orders.

I don’t favor any great changes in the election laws, except a chance to permit voters, not facing criminal charges. 

After that, I will resign.  If I deregister at that point, I will do that as well.

I find it ironic that the Senate has the power to enact every change, right now, completely rendering my candidacy moot and unneeded. 

While I’ve been accused of dividing the Right and the Left, I’ve found support for these ideas across the ideological spectrum.  Personally, I think we need to stop worrying about the Left and the Right until we get the game working.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 10, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
I'm going to wing it because frankly, it's a Thursday night, Jersey Shore starts in 20 minutes, and I'm already one PBR down. But, as a duty to the party that helped me become a washed up has-been, I must speak, and I must speak right now.

We've come a long way in the RPP. As preface, I'll admit I have no idea what I'm supposed to speak about, so I'll speak from the heart about this party. When this party began years ago, we were a few renegade Atlasians with an idea. It was an idea that the right wing could have a voice; we could compete with the big boys. For far too long, the left had dominated the landscape. So we band together. We ate together; drank together; chased women together. We became as one. And then things changed. The tactics that had allowed us to grow and prosper became outdated. We had to change. We did. We did for our survival because deep down we still believed in a common goal. We worked out our differences and changed course. We opened the doors, tore down the masks that plagued our party in the past. And thank God we did.

With all the turmoil going on among the other parties in this game, I'm proud to say we are the most stable. We allow an influx of different ideas. We allow free love, free beer, and a free hug, whenever necessary.

What Yankee has done with this party is truly remarkable. I commend him on his work. Two years ago, no one would've believed that this party would be this strong. In August of 2009, I sat with Yankee as we discussed disbanding. Look where we are today. Even for washed up communists like myself, this party is truly a great home.

I want to give a shout out to all our candidates running for office this time. While my endorsement may not help with right-winged voters, I am not ashamed to say you are all cream of the crop. You'll do good things. You'll work hard to get things done while putting aside partisan bickering. That's what the RPP is all about. We stand firm on our beliefs, but we know when to make compromises for the good of the nation. Rigid partisanship cannot be tolerated. This practice of pragmatism will fulfill in office just as those before you have done. So stand tall - carry that center-right banner, and do it for the good of the nation. I have confidence in this party. The battle for the big one begins now.

OH YEAHHHHH DUKE SPOKE DUKE SPOKE OH YEAHHHHHHHH




Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Junkie on February 10, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
I know that I was scheduled to speak before Duke, so I am sorry that I am speaking out of order.  Quite frankly, due to a recent deluge at work, I have not been as active as I would like.  However, when an opportunity presented itself to speak here today, I could not pass it up.

Our theme today is Integrity.  In many ways, a convenient, almost meaningless area for campaigning in the arena of politics.  To campaign for honesty is as easy as campaigning for love of one's country.  Who is against honesty or patriotism for that matter?  I highly doubt that any of the candidates in the race is without integrity.

However, as easy a campaign promise as integrity can be, I can think of no better adjective for our party's candidate.  I speak not of the former governor or senator that we all see on these boards everyday, fighting to make this game a better, friendlier place for all of us. 

Rather, I am speaking of a man I hope I can call my friend.  These past months since I joined this great party, Tmth has been a great mentor, sounding board, and friend.  When we have disagreed, he has been upfront every time.  When we agree, Tmth fights harder for me than ever. 

Integrity is doing what you think is right, even when no one is looking.  It is a character every nation needs in a leader.  So while it may be an easy slogan to campaign for, in many ways it is the hardest campaign slogan to live up to.  And one in which we will always be assured that Tmth will do us proud.

Thank you and vote Tmth/Dallasfan. 


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Reaganfan on February 10, 2011, 11:30:59 PM
My friends, my remarks will be brief and to the point.

Ladies and gentlemen, we here are embarking on a journey. This journey, known as Atlasia, has been tested time and time again. In times of crisis, natural and man-made, it's the character of our leaders that make the difference in the very end.

A few years ago, when I found myself running for President, I stated that I wanted to bring in "anew" to Atlasia. This was the source for a great amount of entertainment for some. But what I envisioned was a fresh start for Atlasia. An Atlasia where our Government is small, efficient, and works for the people rather than the other way around. An Atlasia where taxes are cut and simplified, where change comes to bring about necessity, but tradition rules overall. I didn't want to change Atlasia, I wanted to improve Atlasia.

Alas, my dreams at the Presidency never succeeded. But that doesn't mean our opportunity is over. If you want leadership that works for you, if you want leadership that is steadfast in their resolve for running a smaller, efficient Government, and if you want a President who can restore tradition to Atlasia....then Tmthforu and Dallasfan deserve your vote!

Thank you, my friends!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Lincoln Republican on February 11, 2011, 02:37:56 AM
Greetings my fellow Atlasians and fellow adherents of the Regional Protection Party.

I am Winfield, and I bring  you greetings from the great city of Newport and the great state of Rhode Island.

Thank you for inviting me to address this illustrious convention.

Thank you Chicago for hosting this historic meeting of this noble political movement.

It is so wonderful to see and to address the thousands assembled here this day.

(Thunderous applause from the audience)

You know, when we live in a society where pizza gets to your house before the police, you know changes must be made.  

(Rollicking laughter and cheering from the audience)

I can honestly tell you that if we agreed with our opponents in this election we'd both be wrong.

(More rollicking laugter from the audience)

The current administration has never really grown up.  They've only learned how to act in public.

(More rollicking laughter from the audience)

We know changes are necessary in our society when every time we turn on the evening news they begin with 'Good evening', and then proceed to tell us why it isn't.

(More rollicking lauhgter from the audience)

I say to the current administration, better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

(More rollicking laughter from the audience)

Let's all get out there and let's elect Tmth and Dallasfan.

Thank you, and God bless Atlasia.

(Winfield exits the stage to the bouncy song Reach For The Stars by S Club 7 waving to the audience giving them the "V" for victory sign to a wild standing ovation.  The thousands in the audience are on their feet singing along and dancing to the music and having a wonderful time.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpeDYR0d62I

Winfield really gets the audience revved up for Tmth and Dallasfan.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on February 11, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
     As it were, I am supposed to extol the virtues of experience to all of you.

     Now some of you might say to yourselves, "more time in government is more time oppressing the people". Why should we want that? Should we not want an outsider untarnished by the quagmire of bureaucracy?

     Electing an outsider may sound all well & good, but I would like to contrapose a question to all naysayers out there; what good is it electing someone who does not understand the delicate relationship that must exist between a successful executive & legislature?

     Tmth has extensive experience governing the Mideast, the first region in Atlasia to adopt an elected legislature. Dallasfan has experience serving in both the Northeast Assembly & the Atlasian Senate. Together, they have extensive knowledge of the workings of government.

     Of course, we return to the complaint of the prospective naysayer. In my time, I have known neither individual to be a friend of expanding the power of government in unjust ways. With that in mind, I would like you to all to think about this supposition; in a world where only the centralists know how to work government, centralist governments shall reign supreme, for obstructionism can never be a long-term strategy, but rather obstructionism is defeatism.

     That is why I am calling on every one of you here tonight to support Tmth/Dallasfan for President; to take back Atlasia for regionalists, for tonight, my friends, I hear the call of the trumpet that shall never sound retreat. We must move forth resolutely, courageously, & with our goals always clear in our minds. I think we are all well aware of the JCP's consistent record of success over the years, but we cannot permit them to cow our better part of man, for united we shall stand & divided we shall fall.

     I have nearly tasted the fruits of victory, for none other of our party has come so close to victory in a national election. As our former standard-bearer, it is from that capacity that I ask you all to entrust the duty of promoting regionalist ideals to a man with the experience needed to successfully promote them: tmthforu94.

     Good night & Dave bless Atlasia!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 12, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
It’s good to be here in the Windy City! I hear it’s been every bit as snowy as New England lately.

Why are we here today?

I for one am here to pledge my support for Tmthforu94, my running mate, for President of Atlasia. Tmthforu94 is running on a platform of getting the government out of people’s lives, stimulative tax cuts, and most importantly: improved activity!

Tmthforu94 has a record of conservative governance in the Mideast. He has also demonstrated that he can bring new life to a region that had somewhat lagging activity. I am confident that he will be able to do this nationally.

I joined Atlasia in November 09 on the sunset of an active Atlasia. I watched us hit rock bottom during the spring, before finally starting to tick upwards in the summer. President Fritz has governed over improved activity, and I approve of him. But I for one think it’s time for change!

We are here to help decide one of the most important elections Atlasia has faced in a long time. Are we going to have another stale election where the torch is passed down from one JCPer to the next? I was under the impression that we were a democracy, not a monarchy. Let’s prove it!


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: California8429 on February 12, 2011, 11:22:52 PM
Tonight we join together from all parts of Atlasia. From the Pacific to the Northeast. From the RPP to the Populares. We stand together in uniting and unifying under the greatest ticket our parties have seen in recent history. A new Atlasia is coming; a White House that explodes with activity, debate, and results.

Tmth has worked tirelessly for our country. From the Mideast Assembly, to the Senate, to Governor, he has worked with all sides on issues and truly gotten results. We have seen great activity during his term as Governor. We have passed numerous bi-partisan bills turned into law, many introduced by him, from Abortion Reduction, to legislative reform, to education reform, to protecting our Mideast Tax dollars, Tmth has been a leader on all fronts social to fiscal issues. We are nearing our first regional budget due to the support of Tmth, a true bi-partisan, transparent, and fiscally conservative piece of legislation that will forever change our game. Tmth has always championed for better legislation to move our country forward.

Tmth looks up, not right or left. Whether it’s working with our regional Senator to ensure the Mideast is represented in the federal government, to work with his colleagues and presidents while in the Senate, to working with citizens and Assembly members as Governor, Tmth has always been there for us. The results can be seen in this campaign that not only has united the right, but heavily includes the center and the left. I don’t need to tell you why he’s successful in Atlasia, the results are sitting in front of you.

Tmth will lead us on a path to a brighter future. Tmth is not afraid of encouraging new members to move to Atlasia from all sides of the aisle, become active, and run for office. Tmth is not afraid to work together to produce bi-partisan results that everyone can agree on. As Speaker of the Assembly, I fiercely fought Tmth on numerous issues, but in the end, we got results from building stronger bills that truly represented our region. It’s time to take his leadership and experience to the White House. It’s time for a new era of Atlasian politics. It’s time for a new leader. It’s time for Tmth and Dallasfan to lead us and work with us for a better Atlasia.

And so I introduce to you, the next President of Atlasia, tmthforu94.


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 12, 2011, 11:24:09 PM
Thank you, thank you all so much. Thank you, A-Bob, for that warm introduction. I’m excited to see the progress of the Mideast under your leadership!

It is my privilege and my honor to be a member of  the Regional Protection Party! Our party is rich in history and tradition, and we have played a crucial part in the development of this game. Yet, there is one obstacle we have yet to conquer: The Presidency. Well, friends, let’s hope we don’t have to wait much longer!

As your nominee, and one day as your President, I will fight for the issue this party was founded named after: regional protection and rights. Serving for two terms as Governor of the Mideast region, I understand the importance of regions, and why we must preserve the regions of this game. Regional governments provide us an excellent chance to give new Atlasians a chance to grow and develop into a key contributor to the game. Elected legislatures have proven to be an effective tool, and we’ve seen many new citizens run for their regional legislature in the past months. While one of my opponents does not see the value in that, I do, and as President, I will be committed to helping those new citizens and their respected legislatures as much as possible.

One of the three words of my slogan is “Accessibility”.  Though I recently was out of the game for a while due to lack of electricity, I’m proud of my record as an active and accessible citizen. Whether it be through personal messaging, AIM, mibbit, or Facebook, I’m always within reach, and I cannot stress to y’all how I want this to be an open and accessible administration. If you have a problem, praise, or just want to have a discussion on something, I’m always available to talk, and I’ll be the same way as your President.

What’s lacking in this game more than anything else is activity. As a Senator and a Governor, I was active. In recent days, my campaign has been attacked by the left as “lacking policy” and “not active enough”. My friends, I’m proud of the way I’ve ran this campaign, and I’m proud to say that this campaign has been the most active campaign, as well as the most policy-oriented campaign of any remaining ticket. I’d suggest that before trying to take a splinter out of our eyes, members on the left should take the log out of theirs. What’s hurt Atlasia more than anything else for the past few weeks is the drama, and it’s leading some to become more disinterested in Atlasia than ever before. It’s time for a healing process in this nation where we come together to meet the problems that we face.

I’d like to offer my sincere congratulations to the people of Egypt for their voice finally being heard! My hopes for this nation is that they can soon enter a democratic process similar to the one we face. It is important that democracy continues to advance in the world around us.

The first objective of my administration will certainly be to reform the GM position. Doing this successfully would help solve several problems our nation is facing - Activity; Lack of Substance. Several strong ideas have been brought to the table in regards to how to reform this position, from co-GM’s to assistants to getting the SoIA and SoEA in GM reports. We look forward to discussing different ideas with the Senate as one of our first legislative goals. When we have this position correctly resolved, both the Senate and regional legislatures will be able to focus more heavily on the issues critical to our nations survival, such as the economy, especially the high debt this nation currently faces. When my administration works on the budget, we will be tightening the belt by proposing a cut of more than $100 billion dollars in defense, and bringing a near end to funding for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, with funding mainly going to reconstruction efforts there.

I’ll try and wrap this up before we start seeing tl;dr comments. ;)

Almost ever recent administration has involved the left, and in this same period, we’ve seen Atlasia decline. I believe the RPP, and the entire conservative wing has great ideas to help improve this nation and put more of a focus game-wise on policy instead of party drama. Give me a chance, Atlasia. Give Dallasfan and I a chance to get to work, and I can assure you, we will not break our promises. I humbly ask members of the RPP and Atlasia has a whole to vote for the Tmthforu94/Dallasfan65 ticket in this election. I thank you all, and good night! Dave Bless Atlasia! :D


Title: Re: Regional Protection Party Convention - Welcome To Chicago!!! (Speeches)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on February 14, 2011, 10:10:05 PM
*bump*