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Title: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Failed)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 16, 2011, 12:29:34 PM
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Speaker No Confidence Amendment

Article III, Section 6 is created to read:

Section 6: No Confidence

1. One-fourth of the registered voters in the Mideast may propose a vote of No Confidence in the Speaker of the Assembly.
2. A popular No Confidence vote shall begin within ten days of their accumulating the necessary support and shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Thursday and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.
3. A special Assembly meeting shall take place to accumulate the necessary support, and shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Thursday and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.
      i. The Governor of the Mideast shall open and close the official Assembly voting in place of the Speaker.
4. If a majority or the general populace votes No Confidence, and three of the four unaffected members of Assembly concur in a special election, then the Speaker shall be relieved of his or her duties immediately, but is permitted to retain the office of Assemblyperson.
5. The office of Speaker of the Assembly is awarded to the next in line as dictated by law.
Sponsor: Agooji


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 16, 2011, 12:34:16 PM
I find this entirely unnecessary.  The Constitution already gives the Assembly the power to elect it's own leadership.  I see no reason to change this.  At the point that 3/4 of the Assembly want to remove the speaker, they could do so on their own.

Furthermore, section 5 doesn't make since, since we don't have a line of succession for the Assembly.


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Debating)
Post by: California8429 on February 16, 2011, 07:28:53 PM
I find this entirely unnecessary.  The Constitution already gives the Assembly the power to elect it's own leadership.  I see no reason to change this.  At the point that 3/4 of the Assembly want to remove the speaker, they could do so on their own.

Furthermore, section 5 doesn't make since, since we don't have a line of succession for the Assembly.

^

Why was this even brought up?


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on February 16, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
I don't see the point of this either.


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Debating)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As and Now Again Known As Ogis on February 17, 2011, 12:18:35 AM
My intent on this bill was to allow for public referendum to replace an inactive official, if the assembly is unwilling or too apathetic to do so.

Meanwhile, section 5 was awfully written (apparently I think this is a constitutional monarchy), and I meant for it to say:

(Offered as an Amendment)
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Speaker No Confidence Amendment

Article III, Section 6 is created to read:

Section 6: No Confidence

1. One-fourth of the registered voters in the Mideast may propose a vote of No Confidence in the Speaker of the Assembly.
2. A popular No Confidence vote shall begin within ten days of their accumulating the necessary support and shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Thursday and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.
3. A special Assembly meeting shall take place to accumulate the necessary support, and shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Thursday and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.
      i. The Governor of the Mideast shall open and close the official Assembly voting in place of the Speaker.
4. If a majority or the general populace votes No Confidence, and three of the four unaffected members of Assembly concur in a special election, then the Speaker shall be relieved of his or her duties immediately, but is permitted to retain the office of Assemblyperson.
5. 5. The office of Speaker of the Assembly shall be filled as determined by Assembly bylaws.
Sponsor: Agooji

Since there is already significant opposition to the bill, you can vote to table if the assembly so desires.

PS: I didn't mean for this bill to be a reflection of my opinions on Speaker Inks, as I think he is doing a wonderful job. I wrote this Amendment to expand the people's power of recall.



Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 17, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
I think you had good intentions, but I see it as unnecessary.


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 17, 2011, 12:08:24 PM
The bill is now at a final vote.  This will be a 48 hour vote:

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Speaker No Confidence Amendment

Article III, Section 6 is created to read:

Section 6: No Confidence

1. One-fourth of the registered voters in the Mideast may propose a vote of No Confidence in the Speaker of the Assembly.
2. A popular No Confidence vote shall begin within ten days of their accumulating the necessary support and shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Thursday and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.
3. A special Assembly meeting shall take place to accumulate the necessary support, and shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Thursday and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.
      i. The Governor of the Mideast shall open and close the official Assembly voting in place of the Speaker.
4. If a majority or the general populace votes No Confidence, and three of the four unaffected members of Assembly concur in a special election, then the Speaker shall be relieved of his or her duties immediately, but is permitted to retain the office of Assemblyperson.
5. 5. The office of Speaker of the Assembly shall be filled as determined by Assembly bylaws.


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 17, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
NAY


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on February 17, 2011, 02:35:32 PM
 Nay


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: afleitch on February 17, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
Nay


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As and Now Again Known As Ogis on February 17, 2011, 06:36:29 PM
Aye...


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 17, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
NAY


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2011, 12:02:12 AM


You can't vote twice ;)


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As and Now Again Known As Ogis on February 18, 2011, 02:16:33 AM
Was the bill that bad that you needed to shoot it down twice? ;)


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 18, 2011, 04:24:21 AM
My bad guys... the green avatar was throwing me off... I've switched back to my good old R-MI.


Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Final Vote)
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on February 18, 2011, 06:04:21 AM
My bad guys... the green avatar was throwing me off... I've switched back to my good old R-MI.

Didn't you vote twice on an amendment in anoter thread as well though ;)



Title: Re: MA: Speaker No Confidence Amendment (Failed)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 18, 2011, 01:57:15 PM
Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 1 and the NAYs are 3, with 1 not voting.  The NAYs have it, and the amendment is not passed.