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Title: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 01, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
Alright guys, it's with great pride (although 6 months late :P) that I announce you the beginning of my...

Western Europe political parties suvrivor

First of all, a couple of precisions about the selection of this survivor's contenders :
- For Western Europe, I've considered all EU countries excepted formerly communist ones, plus Iceland, Norway and Switzerland. I know that including Cyprus in the "western Europe" is quite silly, but the criterion used is more political than geographical. I wanted to avoid former communist countries because their politics are pretty bizarre compared to the rest of Europe.
- I didn't follow an absolute rule for the parties I wanted to include. The general idea is to include every party which has gotten more than 5% of the votes in a recent election (last 5 years). I generally used general elections as a reference, but I took into account the effects of the voting system and was more merciful in non-proportional systems. But again, there might be some variations. When there are parties that systematically and since a long time run together in a coalition, I've counted such coalition as a party.

Now, a few words about the functioning of this survivor :

There are 112 (!) political parties in this survivor. In order to eliminate them, I thought the best thing would be to proceed by group. Thus, I've divided them into 6 different groups, based on their political positions. These groups are not homogeneous, as you will see. Again, a lot of my choices are debatable, but I've tried to fit as much as I could each party's orientation.

This survivor will be divided in 3 phases. In the first one, parties will be eliminated by group (not that, due to the fact some groups are bigger than others, the number of rounds will differ from group to group). For the second phase, survivors will be regrouped into two broader groups (left and right). Finally, the survivors of phase 2 will be reunited.

As usual, the voting rules will variate from round to round. There will be a few immunities, lasting 4 rounds each and not immediately renewable. And of course, I'll try to add new interesting ideas throughout the survivor. ;)

This thread will serve to give a list of contenders, summarize the results of each round, and several organization purposes. Voting soon to begin on other threads. Have fun ! :)


Phase I Party list

Group 1 : Far-left/Radical left

Eliminated (8) :
- Round 1 : New Anticapitalist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Anticapitalist_Party)
- Round 2 : United Left (Spain) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Left_(Spain))
- Round 3 : Democratic Unity Coalition (Portugal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Unity_Coalition)
- Round 4 : The Left (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Linke)
- Round 6 : Left Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden))
- Round 8 : Left-Green Movement (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-Green_Movement)
- Round 9 : Left Alliance (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Alliance_(Finland))
- Round 10 : Left Bloc (Portugal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Bloc)

Qualified (8) :
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Socialist People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Coalition of the Radical Left (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_Radical_Left)
- Sinn Féin (Ireland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in)
- Socialist Party (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Netherlands))
- Socialist Left Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Left_Party_(Norway))


Group 2 : Socialist/Social-democratic/Labour/Mainstream left

Eliminated (9) :
- Round 1 : Labour Party (Malta) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_Labour_Party)
- Round 2 : Socialistische Partij Anders (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_-_Different)
- Round 3 : Parti Socialiste (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parti_Socialiste_(Belgium))
- Round 4 : Democratic Party (Italy) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(Italy))
- Round 5 : Movement for Social Democracy (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_for_Social_Democracy)
- Round 6 : Social Democratic Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Round 7 : Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Round 9 : Panhellenic Socialist Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhellenic_Socialist_Movement)
- Round 10 : Labour Party (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(Netherlands))

Qualified (12) :
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Social Democratic Party of Finland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Finland)
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Social Democratic Party of Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany)
- Social Democratic Alliance (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Alliance)
- Labour Party (Ireland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(Ireland))
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Socialist Party (Portugal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Portugal))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))


Group 3 : Ecologists/Miscellaneous/Unclassifiable

Eliminated (5) :
- Round 1 : Green Party of England and Wales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_England_and_Wales)
- Round 3 : The Movement (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Movement_(Iceland))
- Round 5 : Ecolo (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecolo)
- Round 8 : The Greens (Luxembourg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens_(Luxembourg))
- Round 10 : New Flemish Alliance (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Flemish_Alliance)

Qualified (8) :
- The Greens – The Green Alternative (Austria) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens_-_The_Green_Alternative)
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Green Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_(Sweden))
- Green Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_Switzerland)


Group 4 : Liberal/Centirst/Center-right

Eliminated (10) :
- Round 1 : European Party (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Party_(Cyprus))
- Round 2 : Free Democratic Party (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Democratic_Party_(Germany))
- Round 3 : Democratic Movement (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Movement_(France))
- Round 4 : Open Vlaamse Liberalen en Democraten (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_VLD)
- Round 5 : Democratic Party (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(Cyprus))
- Round 6 : FDP.The Liberals (Switzerland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDP.The_Liberals)
- Round 7 : Mouvement Réformateur (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvement_R%C3%A9formateur)
- Round 8 : Progressive Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(Iceland))
- Round 9 : Democratic Party (Luxembourg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(Luxembourg))
- Round 10 : Union of the Centre (Italy) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_the_Centre_(current))

Qualified (8) :
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 01, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
Group 5 : Christian-democratic/Conservative/Mainstream right

Eliminated (16) :
- Round 1 : People's Party (Spain) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_(Spain))
- Round 2 : The People of Freedom (Italy) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People_of_Freedom) and Christen-Democratisch en Vlaams (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christen-Democratisch_en_Vlaams)
- Round 3 : New Democracy (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democracy_(Greece))
- Round 4 : Fianna Fáil (Ireland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fianna_F%C3%A1il) and Centre démocrate humaniste (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_d%C3%A9mocrate_humaniste)
- Round 5 : Independence Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Party_(Iceland)) and Nationalist Party (Malta) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Party_(Malta))
- Round 6 : Christian Democratic Appeal (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Appeal) and Democratic Rally (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Rally)
- Round 7 : Democratic and Social Centre – People's Party (Portugal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_and_Social_Centre_%E2%80%93_People%27s_Party) and Christian Social People's Party (Luxembourg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Social_People%27s_Party)
- Round 8 : Union for a Popular Movement (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_a_Popular_Movement)
- Round 9 : Future and Freedom for Italy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_and_Freedom) and Social Democratic Party (Portugal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_(Portugal))
- Round 10 : Fine Gael (Ireland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_Gael)

Qualified (12) :
- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))


Group 6 : Far-right/Radical right/Populist right

Eliminated (8) :
- Round 1 : British National Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party)
- Round 2 : Lega Nord (Italy) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lega_Nord)
- Round 4 : Vlaams Belang (Belgium) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Belang)
- Round 5 : Alliance for the Future of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_the_Future_of_Austria)
- Round 7 : UK Independence Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party)
- Round 8 : Danish People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People%27s_Party)
- Round 9 : Alternative Democratic Reform Party (Luxembourg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Democratic_Reform_Party)
- Round 10 : Freedom Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Party_of_Austria)

Qualified (8) :
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)


Phase I Results table

Group 1R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10
AKEL6III
F5
Vas28141330
NPA7
FG6
LINKE11218
KKE1IIIPPPPP
SYRIZA131216810121
V111014
SF2164PPP
SP614101617
SVP2128
BE2131825
CDU413
IU17
V19
Voters101091091010999

Group 2R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10
SPÖ3
PS1625
SP-A19
EDEK5249
A2
SDP3110
PS162
SPD138361420
PASOK24912326
S4712191225
Lab211316
PD2824
LSAP47325
PL4
PvdA115513426
DNA2
PS62
PSOE46PP
SAPIIII
SPS415
Lab1III
Voters101110991010999


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 01, 2011, 03:43:47 PM
Group 3R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10
Grüne2
Ecolo167
NVA103315
Virh13
EE-LVPPPPPP
GRÜNEIIIP
Mov220
IdV1IIIIPPP
Gr725
GL
MP6
GPS914
GPEW7
Voters10119991010999

Group 4R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10
MR14222830
OpenVLD2722
DIKO19186
Evroko7
B321
Kesk628
MoDem827
FDP38
B71742316
UDC25321112214
DP7736
D661IIII
SP7414
V32
FP46154
C2
FDP.Lib110
LibDem12III7
Voters1011101091010999

Group 5R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10
ÖVP23816
CDeV5
CDH11029
DISY18512
V2459
C64
Kok36
UMP2913
CDU/CSU372
ND24
D61412
FG2410101514
FF2838
PdL429
FLI221234
CSV4322
PN178
VVD3III
CDA5112
H
KFP64105
PSD32121220
CDS-PP381461034
PP5
MIIII
KD2922
CVP10510
Con81013
Voters1010910910101099

Group 6R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10
FPÖ281681833
BZÖ21198
VB320
O2315
PS2PPPP
FNIIII336
LAOS43III
F131561821
LN6
ADR54131124
PVVPPPPPPP
FP74
SD4419710
SVP7122101
UKIP1222
BNP8
Voters1010109910101099


Phase I Schedule

Tab showing the number of parties that will be eliminated by group in each round.

Phase IR1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10Total
Group 111110101118
Group 211111110119
Group 310101001015
Group 4111111111110
Group 5121222212116
Group 611011011118
ImmunityYY


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 01, 2011, 03:45:39 PM
Phase II Party list

Group A : Left

Eliminated (13) :
- Round 1 : Socialist Party (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Netherlands))
- Round 2 : Socialist People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Round 3 : Coalition of the Radical Left (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_Radical_Left)
- Round 5 : Sinn Féin (Ireland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in)
- Round 6 : Socialist Party (Portugal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Portugal))
- Round 7 : Labour Party (Ireland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(Ireland))
- Round 8 : Green Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Round 9 : Social Democratic Alliance (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Alliance)
- Round 11 : The Greens – The Green Alternative (Austria) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens_-_The_Green_Alternative)
- Round 12 : Green Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_(Sweden))
- Round 13 : Social Democratic Party of Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany)
- Round 14 : Social Democratic Party of Finland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Finland)
- Round 15 : Socialist Left Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Left_Party_(Norway))

Qualified (15) :
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))


Group B : Right

Eliminated (13) :
- Round 1 : Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Round 2 : True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- Round 3 : Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Round 4 : Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Round 5 : National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Round 7 : Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Round 8 : Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Round 9 : Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Round 10 : Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Round 11 : Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Round 13 : Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))
- Round 14 : Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Round 15 : Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))

Qualified (15) :
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)


Phase II Results table

Group AR1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10R11R12R13R14R15
SPÖ5
Grüne216111420
AKEL32IIII2IIII4
F5
A21
SDP713245
Virh29231312182
FG43831316
PS2251
EE-LV1122
SPD23115913351230
GRÜNEIIII1
KKE112PPPPPPPPPPP
SYRIZA1316
S31567111821
SF31118
Lab1615
IdV210212
SP3
GL142161218
SVP34223521
DNA61
PS718
PSOE4421261
SAP28
MP1041517
GPS11321121
Lab14213891
Voters99910119109991091099


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 02, 2011, 06:56:04 AM
Group BR1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9R10R11R12R13R14R15
ÖVP534210184
B131
V142
C8381
Kesk352310
Kok6
PS6
FN1202316
CDU/CSU3212PPP
LAOS11117415
F6
D66IIII1
VVD347124416
PVV12157101321
SP212
V1
H321IIII
KFP1121
FP33221617
FP2
C4
M11IIII
KD113385420
SD171971132
CVP2932
SVP1525
LibDem146246419
Con1210278581326
Voters99991191099910910910


Phase II Schedule

Immunities :
- Round 2, lasting for rounds 3-6. All groups vote to eliminate.
- Round 6, lasting for rounds 7-10. No elimination in group B.
- Round 10, lasting for rounds 11-14. No elimination in group A.

Direct promotion (no elimination) :
- Round 4 for group A.
- Round 12 for group B.


Phase III Party list

Eliminated (25) :
- Round 1 : Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Round 2 : Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Round 3 : People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Round 4 : Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Round 5 : Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Round 6 : Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Round 7 : Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Round 8 : Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Round 9 : Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Round 10 : Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Round 11 : Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- Round 12 : Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Round 13 : Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Round 14 : Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Round 15 : Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))
- Round 16 : National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Round 17 : Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Round 18 : Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Round 19 : Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Round 20 : Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Round 21 : Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- Round 22 : Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Round 23 : Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Round 24 : GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Round 25 : Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)

Qualified (5) :
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread
Post by: Hash on April 02, 2011, 08:55:01 AM
Note: you should include regionalist parties such as the PC, SNP, PNV or CiU. They may not win much votes overall, but in their respective units they are either the dominant party or they win a very significant amount of votes which makes them major players nationally and much more relevant than parties which take the same amount of votes nationally.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 02, 2011, 09:09:56 AM
Phase III Results table

Round12345678910111213141516171819202122232425
SPÖ42236IIIII2
AKEL1214
A528
B6
V118
C17
Virh3331027
Kesk2IIIII2124
Kok144456
FG285
PS1347
EE-LV31313353133127
GRÜNE2131111211671
CDU/CSU1423IIIII142722
KKE483723105
IdV2164231821234
GL1116IIIII33011623155
D6610452
VVD26
DNA112533
SP182221
V244451510
H114111231830
KFP6
PSOE17431058454714326319
SAP111121216411216221
FP14
C1124111554
M2621241028531
Lab11116851235
Voters1111111111111191010101011111011111010101110111010


Final Top 5

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ 37 - D66 37
Duel 7 : M 5 - Grüne 26
Duel 8 : DNA 39 - SPÖ 36
Duel 9 : D66 26 - M 42
Duel 10 : Grüne 32 - DNA 45

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 8 points
- 2nd : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 4 points
- 3rd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 3 points
- 4th : Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 3 points
- 5th : Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 2 points


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 1 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 03, 2011, 11:55:59 AM
Eliminated on round 1

Group 1 : New Anticapitalist Party (France)

()

7 votes, 1 for SYRIZA, 1 for LINKE, 1 for IU

Group 2 : Labour Party (Malta)

()

4 votes, 2 for Lab (I), 1 for SP-A, 1 for SPD, 1 for PS (B), 1 for PvdA

Group 3 : Green Party of England and Wales

()

7 votes, 2 for Mov, 1 for IdV

Group 4 : European Party (Cyprus)

()

7 votes, 3 for FDP

Group 5 : People's Party (Spain)

()

5 votes, 4 for PdL, 1 for PN

Group 6 : British National Party

()

8 votes, 2 for BZÖ


Round 2 now open !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 2 open)
Post by: afleitch on April 03, 2011, 07:20:07 PM
You could do one for seperatist parties :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 2 open)
Post by: homelycooking on April 03, 2011, 07:47:00 PM
Antonio, why are the rules different across the groups?


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 2 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 04, 2011, 06:46:25 AM
Antonio, why are the rules different across the groups?

That's because the number of parties to eliminate differs from group to group : from 5 for the greens, to 16 for the mainstream right.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 2 open)
Post by: Hash on April 04, 2011, 07:33:46 AM
You could do one for seperatist parties :)

^


Title: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 3 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 04, 2011, 01:56:09 PM
Eliminated on round 2

Group 1 : United Left (Spain)

()


Group 2 : Socialistische Partij Anders (Belgium)

()


Group 4 : Free Democratic Party (Germany)

()


Group 5 : The People of Freedom (Italy)...

()


...and Christen-Democratisch en Vlaams (Belgium)

()


Group 6 : Lega Nord (Italy)

()


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 3 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 04, 2011, 02:33:36 PM
After homelycooking's question, I added a schedule for future rounds, so that you can see in advance how each round will work in each group.


Why not ? Maybe a nice idea for a next survivor. ;) Anyways, if anyone wants to do one, I'd gladly take part in it.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 4 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 06, 2011, 05:06:28 AM
Eliminated on round 3

Group 1 : Democratic Unity Coalition (Portugal)

()


Group 2 : Parti Socialiste (Belgium)

()


Group 3 : The Movement (Iceland)

()


Group 4 : Democratic Movement (France)

()


Group 5 : New Democracy (Grece)

()


Round 4 now open !

Yeah, I know I'm ridiculously late.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 5)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 08, 2011, 08:43:42 AM
Eliminated on round 4


Group 1 : The Left (Germany)

()


Group 2 : Democratic Party (Italy)

()


Group 4 : Open VLD (Belgium)

()


Group 5 : Fianna Fail (Ireland)...

()


...and Centre Démocrate Humaniste (Belgium)

()


Group 6 : Vlaams Belang (Belgium)

()


Round 5 now open ! And sorry again for taking so much time.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 5 open)
Post by: big bad fab on April 08, 2011, 08:46:44 AM
Oh, it's quite heavy to update all the groups AND to search, upload and post pictures.

The only important things is that you update from time to time and that this survivor keeps on until the end.
Unfinished survivors are so frustrating ! ;)
(Kal, where are you ? >:( :P)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 5 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 08, 2011, 09:05:41 AM
I admit I would have never imagined it would be so time-consuming : counting everything, it probably takes me around 3-4 hours per round... :P Of course it's worth it, and the once the 6-groups phase is finished things should get a lot easier. :)

BTW, look at how competitive this round has been ! PD and Open VLD were ousted by previous votes, VB by one and Die Linke by 2 ! :D Looks really promising.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 5 open)
Post by: big bad fab on April 08, 2011, 09:08:52 AM
I admit I would have never imagined it would be so time-consuming : counting everything, it probably takes me around 3-4 hours per round... :P Of course it's worth it, and the once the 6-groups phase is finished things should get a lot easier. :)


Wow, it's also because you haven't so much experience in big survivors (yet...): don't worry, it will be faster and faster ;).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 6)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 09, 2011, 11:13:59 AM
Eliminated on round 5


Group 2 : Movement for Social Democracy (Cyprus)

()


Group 3 : Ecolo (Belgium)

()


Group 4 : Democratic Party (Cyprus)

()


Group 5 : Independence Party (Iceland)...

()


...and Nationalist Party (Malta)

()


Group 6 : Alliance for the Future of Austria

()


Round 6 now open !

Sad day for Cyprus... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 7 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 11, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
Eliminated on round 6


Group 1 : Left Party (Sweden)

()


Group 2 : Social Democratic Party of Switzerland

()


Group 4 : FDP.The Liberals (Switzerland)

()


Group 5 : Christian Democratic Appeal (Netherlands)...

()


...and Democratic Rally (Cyprus)

()


Round 7 now open !

And this time it's Switzerland's turn to suffer... :P All right, the voting system was very messy, and a lot of people didn't vote tactically as they could have done, which as a result caused pretty random results (SYRIZA survives again... :(). But well, how fun would it be without some randomness ? ;)

Now, back on more classical rules.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 8 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 14, 2011, 12:34:21 PM
Eliminated on round 7


Group 2 : Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party

()


Group 4 : Mouvement Réformateur (Belgium)

()


Group 5 : Democratic and Social Centre – People's Party (Portugal)...

()


...and Christian Social People's Party (Luxembourg)

()


Group 6 : UK Independence Party

()


Round 8 now open !

So, now it's Luxemburg which loses its two major parties in the same round... :P
But overall, this round looked like a "grand soir" : a lot of us have been waiting for a long time to see LSAP, CDS-PP or Mouvement Réformateur out. Will SYRIZA and NVA follow them on next round ? ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 8 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 18, 2011, 02:10:07 AM
If someone is wondering why I've not updated this for more than 3 days, I've been literally overwhelmed with work this weekend. Really sorry.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 8 open)
Post by: big bad fab on April 18, 2011, 01:50:34 PM
I won't be online tomorrow, Tuesday CET, until very late.
But it seems as you won't update an entire round during this period of time.

Unfortunately, I will be on holiday from 30th of April to 7th of May, without any Internet access.
I guess your fine survivor won't be finished :(.
I'll de sad to miss some rounds...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 8 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 20, 2011, 03:56:29 PM
Ok, you can't imagine how sorry I am... I promise you'll have an update for tomorrow, now that I'm slightly more free...

PS : Fab, I'm sorry to hear about your absence, I hope that you won't miss too many rounds. :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 9 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 21, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
Eliminated on round 8


Group 1 : Left-Green Movement (Iceland)

()


Group 3 : The Greens (Luxembourg)

()


Group 4 : Progressive Party (Iceland)

()


Group 5 : Union for a Popular Movement (France)

()


Group 6 : Danish People's Party

()


Round 9 now open !

I have difficulties to understand how SYRIZA is still there... Otherwise, UMP is the big surprise of this round (blame Edu ! :P). Can't say I'm traumatized, but I thought it would have stayed a bit more...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 9 open)
Post by: big bad fab on April 21, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
Well, it all strated well with NPA ousted in the first round, but SYRIZA still here... >:(

(after EELV promoted ::))

I had no illusion in UMP and it's not a great party.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 10 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 24, 2011, 08:49:36 AM
Eliminated on round 9


Group 1 : Left Alliance (Finland)

()


Group 2 : Panhellenic Socialist Movement

()


Group 4 : Democratic Party (Luxembourg)

()


Group 5 : Future and Freedom for Italy...

()


...and Social Democratic Party (Portugal)

()


Group 6 : Alternative Democratic Reform Party (Luxembourg)

()


Round 10 now open ! It will be the last of this initial phase, after which half of the initial parties will have been eliminated.

It really seems like SYRIZA will stay there for a while... ::)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 10 open)
Post by: Edu on April 25, 2011, 01:19:40 PM
Just wanted to say that i would like to calculate the numbers of each group so far to make an informed decision, but the thing is that i'm quite busy right now and could probably do it in a few hours at the earliest.
I'm just warning so that Antonio doesn't think i forgot to vote, but if it's a problem then Antonio should not wait for my vote, i don't really want to be the annoying guy making everyone wait :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Round 10 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 25, 2011, 02:34:23 PM
Don't worry, I won't be able to update the survivor ubtil wednesday anyways. ;)


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase I complete)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 28, 2011, 07:28:24 AM
Eliminated on round 10


Group 1 : Left Bloc (Portugal)

()


Group 2 : Labour Party (Netherlands)

()


Group 3 : New Flemish Alliance (Belgium)

()


Group 4 : Union of the Centre (Italy)

()


Group 5 : Fine Gael (Ireland)

()


Group 6 : Freedom Party of Austria

()


So the first phase is over... ;) It's been a really fun and colorful cycle, with some upsetting results, a lot of very close ones, and also a polarization which often doesn't follow ideological divide (I mean, I voted like fabie 90% of the time :P). I hope we can keep going that way for the next phase. :)

There will be two groups : Group A (left) with survivors from groups 1, 2 and 3, and group B (right) with survivors. Each will have 28 members, 13 of which will be eliminated during the 15 rounds of the phase. Once again there will be a couple of immunities and some direct promotions (though not as many ;)).

If you have any comments about what you liked or didn't like during this initial step, I'd be gald to hear them, so that I can take account of them in the upcoming cycle. Otherwise, I wish you'll keep following this survivor and hope you will enjoy it until the end. :)


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase I complete)
Post by: big bad fab on April 28, 2011, 09:32:14 AM
My only wishes for phase II:
- start it slowly as I'm not here next week ;D
- forbid Edu to vote ;D
- forbid Hash to vote, except if it's in favour of KKE ;D.

Otherwise, no, I have no dictatorial tendency, I don't know why you say this :P.

Seriously, these were very funny rounds, I've enjoyed them.
Indeed, the vote was quite fair.
I hope it will still be the case in phase III.


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase I complete)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 30, 2011, 10:05:13 AM
Alright guys, the 1st round of Phase I should be beginning in a few hours ! :)


I just wanted to inform you that, since Fab will be out for next week, I asked him to give his preferences for elimination as well as for saving/immunity, which I will later use to cast votes for him. I know this is a rather unusual procedure, but I honestly think a survivor like ours can't afford the absence of one of its more influential voters. That's why I'll express his vote at the beginning of each round, and count it as a normal vote.

Of course, that's only if nobody has any problem with that. I don't want to be accused to favoring some parties (since it happens that Fab and I often agree), and it's not a conspiracy to piss off Edu either. :P I want to do that because I think it's the fairest thing to do. But if someone finds it unfair, Fab told me he had no problem on his votes not being counted. So, do we all agree ?


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 2 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 01, 2011, 09:01:57 AM
Eliminated on round 1


Group A : Socialist Party (Netherlands)

()


Group B : Liberal Party (Iceland)

()


Round 2 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 3 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 02, 2011, 08:46:26 AM
Eliminated on round 2


Group A : Socialist People's Party (Denmark)

()


Group B : True Finns

()


Round 3 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 3 open)
Post by: Leftbehind on May 03, 2011, 06:50:50 PM
Can't believe how many neoliberal "social democrats" remain.


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 4 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 05, 2011, 06:13:32 AM
Eliminated on round 3


Group A : Coalition of the Radical Left (Greece)

()


Group B : Swiss People's Party

()


Round 4 now open !


What a beautiful round... I thought this moment would never come. :)

Can't believe how many neoliberal "social democrats" remain.

The neoliberal left is an essential element of modern European politics after all. ;) And also, those parties are also those with the richest histories (Labour, SPD). Even if the present isn't bright, the past compensates it.


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 5 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 06, 2011, 11:17:20 AM
Eliminated on round 4


Group B : Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland

()


Round 5 now open !


KKE immune, CVP eliminated in a group full of far-right scum... Meh, I guess it had to go that way after the great round we've had last time...


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 6 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 08, 2011, 01:32:51 PM
Eliminated on round 5


Group A : Sinn Féin (Ireland)

()


Group B : National Front (France)

()


Round 6 now open !


And another thing is done. FN should have been ousted long ago.


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 7 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 11, 2011, 12:26:12 PM
Eliminated on round 6


Group A : Socialist Party (Portugal)

()


Round 7 now open !


German greens and D66 immune for the next 4 rounds. Guy, maybe it's time to start immunizing parties that actually have a slight chance to be eliminated... ::)


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 8 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 12, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
Eliminated on round 7


Group A : Labour Party (Ireland)

()


Group B : Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)

()


Round 8 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 9 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 13, 2011, 09:11:16 AM
Eliminated on round 8


Group A : Green Party of Switzerland

()


Group B : Sweden Democrats

()


Round 9 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 10 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 15, 2011, 10:31:48 AM
Eliminated on round 9


Group A : Social Democratic Alliance (Iceland)

()


Group B : Party for Freedom (Netherlands)

()


Round 10 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 11 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 16, 2011, 09:41:17 AM
Eliminated on round 10


Group B : Progress Party (Norway)

()


Round 11 now open !


The Progress Party is the last party to go among the far-rightists... Can't say I'm sad the former group is entirely gone, but well, maybe just for the sake of pluralism one of them should have been admitted to the final phase. ;) Otherwise : AKEL immune again, meh... There is far too much vote split in group A.


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 12 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 18, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
Eliminated on round 11


Group A : The Greens – The Green Alternative (Austria)

()


Group B : Liberal Democrats (UK)

()


Round 12 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 12 open)
Post by: big bad fab on May 18, 2011, 03:53:23 PM
It could have been worse :P.


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 12 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 18, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
Well, even Edu deserves a little victory sometimes. ;D And anyways the LibDems aren't by far the best party of the goup, so I won't complain... as long as SPD, Labour, CDU etc are left alone. ;)


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 13 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 20, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Eliminated on round 12


Group A : Green Party (Sweden)

()


Round 13 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 14 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 22, 2011, 10:50:25 AM
Eliminated on round 13


Group A : Social Democratic Party of Germany

()


Group B : Conservative Party (UK)

()


Round 14 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 14 open)
Post by: big bad fab on May 23, 2011, 02:02:41 AM
Aubry would have said this round is a "coup de tonnerre"... :P


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 14 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 23, 2011, 05:37:28 AM
Aubry would have said this round is a "coup de tonnerre"... :P

It is indeed... :'( But I guess it's my fault, I've made a too much "tough" rule that gives to much weigh to vote split. Maybe if we'd gone with a bit more "oustable" party than GroenLinks as an alternative to SPD, we could have gotten the votes of Hans, Homely and Hash... As for Tories, their enemies played a good game and took advantage of the rule, so that nobody could stop them...


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II, Round 15 open)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 23, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Eliminated on round 14


Group A : Social Democratic Party of Finland

()


Group B : Austrian People's Party

()


Round 15 now open !


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II now complete)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 24, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
Eliminated on round 15


Group A : Socialist Left Party (Norway)

()


Group B : Christian Democrats (Sweden)

()


Phase II is also over now. ;) It's been nice enough, and even though some rounds have been truly horrible and made me want to shoot at some people. :P Well, at least that way maybe Edu will stop whining as the usual frustrated guy. :P We've had suspenseful rounds, and I've personally had a lot of fun there.

But the best part has yet to come ! :D Of the 112 initial parties, only 30 remain (roughly one quarter). The most thrilling part of the survivor is about begin, with one party ousted each round, and no distinction between left and right anymore. That means no party will be totally safe now (well, SPD looked safe in phase II too ;D). That also means partisan hackery will be possible (Fab, I think I will disappoint you, because there's just too much crap left form group B...). I hope you'll all enjoy it !

As last time, it will take me a few days before opening the next phase. If you have any comment, critic or proposal about the survivor, please let me know. :)


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II now complete)
Post by: Edu on May 24, 2011, 05:36:52 PM
Phase II is also over now. ;) It's been nice enough, and even though some rounds have been truly horrible and made me want to shoot at some people. :P Well, at least that way maybe Edu will stop whining as the usual frustrated guy. :P We've had suspenseful rounds, and I've personally had a lot of fun there.

Never! It's my speciality ;D :P

Seriously, although a lot of interesting parties were eliminated early in the survivor and there are too many Scandinavian parties left I'm enjoying the survivor (even though it doesn't look like that :P). You survivors always seem to be pretty enjoyable mate, and this one was massive so i appreciate your work on it ;)


Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II now complete)
Post by: big bad fab on May 25, 2011, 04:41:08 AM
The most thrilling part of the survivor is about begin, with one party ousted each round, and no distinction between left and right anymore. That means no party will be totally safe now (well, SPD looked safe in phase II too ;D). That also means partisan hackery will be possible (Fab, I think I will disappoint you, because there's just too much crap left form group B...). I hope you'll all enjoy it !


Have you thought I'm stupid enough to believe that ANY right party will be in the top 10 (and, no Danish Social Liberal Party and D66 aren't rightist parties...) ? :D :P

Internet is hugely biased towards the bobo-Green left. This forum is biased to the left. The purely political survivors, with figures or parties from both sides, are hugely biased in favour of the left.

I've become used to it... in a way ;D :P.
First, the right, then the communists, then the "librul" false right, then the old socialists and we'll have an all-green top 5... :(
I'm ready to lose in EVERY round, now. That will be painful.
I'll try to refrain myself and not become the "whiner-in-chief" ;).



Title: Re: Western Eur. parties suvrivor - Organization thread (Phase II now complete)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 25, 2011, 04:52:28 AM
Well, I promise to do my best to help CDU, Swedish moderates and Norwegian conservatives be in the Top 10. ;) On the other hand, there are VVD, KFP the Danish conservatives and a lot of others who are totally undeserving to stay and should be kicked out ASAP.

As for the greens, I'll try to kick out a couple of them, but the German ones need their place too. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 29, 2011, 09:04:38 AM
Ok, let's start ! :) From now, the main thread will be used to eliminate parties.

There are 30 finalists, 15 from the left and 15 from the right. In this final phase, we will eliminate one party per round, until we have our final Top 5. For the first time, all the parties of the survivor are reunited in the same group, meaning you are totally free to choose the party you want to oust.

So, have fun ! :D


Phase III begins

()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 1 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Nhoj on May 29, 2011, 09:44:24 AM
Christian Democratic Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 29, 2011, 09:44:59 AM
VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: homelycooking on May 29, 2011, 09:54:50 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: big bad fab on May 29, 2011, 11:39:15 AM
VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 29, 2011, 12:20:57 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: BenNebbich on May 29, 2011, 12:50:25 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Edu on May 29, 2011, 01:23:42 PM
Labour Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 29, 2011, 03:28:24 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: JonBidinger on May 29, 2011, 04:52:31 PM
Venstre (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 1
Post by: Hash on May 29, 2011, 06:26:56 PM
Christian Democratic Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 31, 2011, 01:11:40 PM
Christian Democratic Party (Norway) is out

()

Leader : Knut Arild Hareide
()

Last general election result (2009) : 5.5%, 10/169 seats

KFP : 6
VVD : 2
V (D) : 1
Lab : 1
SAP : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 2 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 31, 2011, 01:14:48 PM
Communist Party of Greece


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Edu on May 31, 2011, 01:17:50 PM
PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: homelycooking on May 31, 2011, 01:34:02 PM

Oh, no you don't. Not while we still have four Danish parties.

Eliminate Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: BenNebbich on May 31, 2011, 01:59:16 PM
Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 31, 2011, 02:03:58 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: big bad fab on May 31, 2011, 03:46:41 PM
Well, PSOE is now really tempting, but I can't miss such an opportunity to kill the

Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Nhoj on May 31, 2011, 05:51:00 PM
Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: JonBidinger on June 01, 2011, 06:46:23 AM
KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Hash on June 01, 2011, 09:36:03 AM
Save KKE :(

Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 2
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 01, 2011, 11:02:37 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 01, 2011, 11:39:39 AM
Danish Social Liberal Party is out

AKA "Det Radikale Venstre"

()

Leader : Margrethe Vestager
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_parliamentary_election,_2007)) : 5.1%, 9/179 seats

B : 6
KKE : 4
PSOE : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 3 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 01, 2011, 11:41:05 AM
Ok guys now please let's oust VVD.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Edu on June 01, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: BenNebbich on June 01, 2011, 12:18:40 PM
VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: homelycooking on June 01, 2011, 12:21:17 PM
Finland Green League


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 01, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
OK, VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Nhoj on June 01, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
Finland Green League


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 01, 2011, 03:15:47 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: JonBidinger on June 01, 2011, 04:10:59 PM
VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: big bad fab on June 01, 2011, 04:11:25 PM
Finaland's Green League

I anticipate an horrible end for me: EELV, PSOE, GreenLeft,... all the "PolitiTubbies" still here... :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 3
Post by: Hash on June 01, 2011, 07:37:33 PM
VVD.

Right-wingers propped up by fascists are 100x times worst than run-of-the-mill greens. Also, Finnish Greens are hot.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 02, 2011, 05:21:16 AM
Since all the "regulars" have already voted, I'll close this a bit earlier in order to recover from the delay I've accumulated. :)


People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) is out

AKA "Volkspartij voor Vrijheid en Democratie", VVD

()

Leader : Mark Rutte (Prime Minister of Netherlands)
()

Last general election result (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_2010)) : 20.5%, 31/150 seats

VVD : 6
Virh : 3
CDU/CSU : 1
C (D) : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 4 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate, and 1 vote to give immunity.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Nhoj on June 02, 2011, 07:19:10 AM
eliminate Centre Party (Finland)
immunity for Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Hash on June 02, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
eliminate C (DK)
immunity KESK


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 02, 2011, 08:52:56 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: JonBidinger on June 02, 2011, 09:06:37 AM
Eliminate Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
Immunity Green League (Finland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: homelycooking on June 02, 2011, 11:16:04 AM
Eliminate Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
Immunize CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Edu on June 02, 2011, 11:29:35 AM
Eliminate
Socialist Party (France)

Immunity for KESK (to try and prevent a CDU immunity)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: BenNebbich on June 02, 2011, 12:55:48 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 02, 2011, 01:52:03 PM
Eliminate Kesk

Immunity to CDU/CSU

I know both are lost causes, but...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: big bad fab on June 02, 2011, 03:48:30 PM
Eliminate
GreenLeft

Immunize
CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 4
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 02, 2011, 05:29:27 PM
Eliminate Conservative People's Party (Denmark)

inmunity for Kesk (my vote would be PSOE, but I don't want to give my vote to CDU ;) )


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 03, 2011, 05:59:41 AM
Conservative People's Party (Denmark) is out

AKA "Det Konservative Folkeparti"

()

Leader : Lars Barfoed
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_general_election,_2007)) : 10.4%, 18/179 seats

C (D) : 7
Kesk : 2
GL : 1
PS : 1

Immunity :
Kesk : 6
CDU/CSU : 4
Virh : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland)) Immune for rounds 5-9
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 5 begins. You have 3 votes to eliminate, to cast 2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: big bad fab on June 03, 2011, 07:11:00 AM
2 Europe Ecologie-Les Verts
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Hash on June 03, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
2 Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
1 Italy of Values


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 03, 2011, 09:21:14 AM
please, don't eliminate my party (the only spanish party alive) before those scandinavian parties which don't have any power or/and history...

2 Liberal People's party of sweeden
1 Europe Ecologie


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Edu on June 03, 2011, 09:21:52 AM
Eliminate
2 for PSOE
1 for Labour Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: JonBidinger on June 03, 2011, 10:15:31 AM
2 for Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
1 for Venstre (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: homelycooking on June 03, 2011, 10:32:58 AM
2 Liberal People's Party
1 Green League


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 03, 2011, 11:17:05 AM
2 Liberal People's Party
1 Virh


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: BenNebbich on June 03, 2011, 12:02:17 PM
2 Liberal People's Party
1 Green League


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Nhoj on June 03, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
2 PSOE
1 Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 5
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 03, 2011, 03:39:06 PM
2 Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
1 Italy of Values


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 04, 2011, 04:52:21 AM
Liberal People's Party (Sweden) is out

AKA "Folkpartiet liberalerna"

()

Leader : Jan Björklund
()

Last general election result (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2010)) : 7.1%, 24/349 seats

FP : 14
PSOE : 7
EELV : 3
Virh : 3
IdV : 2
C : 1
V (D) : 1
Lab : 1
SAP : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland)) Immune for rounds 5-9
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 6 begins. You have 3 votes to eliminate, to cast 1-1-1, and 1 vote to keep.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 04, 2011, 06:21:05 AM
Eliminate KKE, Virh, Venstre

Keep PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: BenNebbich on June 04, 2011, 07:26:29 AM
Eliminate

Social Democrats (Denmark)

Venstre (Denmark)

Green League (Finland)

Keep

KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Hash on June 04, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
eliminate
Social Democrats (Denmark)
Venstre (Denmark)
Italy of Values

keep
KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 04, 2011, 08:48:36 AM
eliminate Venstre, Social democrats (denmark) and Virh

keep PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: JonBidinger on June 04, 2011, 10:25:58 AM
Eliminate Venstre (Denmark), KKE, and Conservative Party (Norway)
Keep Social Democrats (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: homelycooking on June 04, 2011, 10:27:50 AM
Eliminate
Green League
Venstre
Danish Social Democrats

Keep PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Nhoj on June 04, 2011, 11:22:18 AM
Eliminate
Venstre (Denmark)
Social Democrats (Denmark)
Centre Party (Norway)

keep
KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 04, 2011, 01:30:38 PM
Eliminate:
Communist Party of Greece
Venstre (Denmark)
Left Front (France)

Keep:
Green League (Finland)





Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: big bad fab on June 04, 2011, 03:06:20 PM
This leftist lovefest slightly bores me...

Eliminate
EELV
Green League (Finland)
GreenLeft

Keep
CDU-CSU



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: Edu on June 04, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
This leftist lovefest slightly bores me...

Aren't all the parties that received votes this round so far except for Venstre (Denmark) and maybe the Centre Party of Norway left of centre?

Eliminate
PSOE
Labour Party (UK)
Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)

Keep
Venstre (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 6
Post by: big bad fab on June 04, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
This leftist lovefest slightly bores me...

Aren't all the parties that received votes this round so far except for Venstre (Denmark) and maybe the Centre Party of Norway left of centre?


Yeah ! Except that a divided vote is nothing in this case...
We'll fight each round against leftist parties and just vote for a rightist one by default...
Not that it wasn't unforeseen, though ;).

I'm just tired, so tired... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 05, 2011, 06:23:51 AM
Venstre (Denmark) is out

AKA "Venstre, Danmarks Liberale Parti"

()

Leader : Lars Løkke Rasmussen (Prime Minister of Denmark)
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_parliamentary_election,_2007)) : 26.2%, 46/179 seats

V (D) : 8
A : 5
Virh : 3
FG : 2
SP : 1
IdV : 1
H : 1
EELV : 1
GL : 1
Lab : 1
KKE : 0
CDU/CSU : 0
PSOE : -2



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland)) Immune for rounds 5-9
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 7 begins. You have 15 votes to eliminate, to cast 8-4-2-1, and 7 votes to keep, to cast 4-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 05, 2011, 06:58:26 AM
8 Virh
4 Social democrats (denmark)
2 Conservative Party (Norway)
1 CDU/CSU


keep
4 PSOE
2 IdV
1 PS (france)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: big bad fab on June 05, 2011, 08:25:28 AM
8 GreenLeft
4 PSOE
2 EELV
1 Green League (Finland)

Keep
4 CDU/CSU
2 Labour
1 Italy of Values


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: JonBidinger on June 05, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
Eliminate
8 - Conservative Party (Norway)
4 - GreenLeft
2 - Liberal Party (Norway)
1 - Center Party (Sweden)

Keep
4 - Social Democrats (Denmark)
2 - Green League (Finland)
1 - EELV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Nhoj on June 05, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
8 GreenLeft
4 Social Democrats (Denmark)
2 Centre Party (Norway)
1 PSOE

keep
4 CDU/CSU
2 Green League (Finland)
1 Italy of Values


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: BenNebbich on June 05, 2011, 12:10:47 PM
Eliminate

8 Social Democrats Denmark
4 Green League Finland
2 Les Verts France
1 Alliance 90 / Die Grünen Germany

Keep

4 KKE
2 Progressive Party Cyprus
1 Groenlinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 05, 2011, 12:16:06 PM
Eliminate:
8  KKE
4  Left Front (France)
2  Conservative Party (Norway)
1  CDU/CSU

Keep:
4  Alliance 90 / Die Grünen Germany
2  Green League Finland
1  Groenlinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Edu on June 05, 2011, 12:35:14 PM
8 for PSOE
4 for Labour Party (UK)
2 for CDU/CSU
1 for Socialist Party (France)

Keep
4 for Social Democrats (Denmark)
2 for Conservative Party (Norway)
1 for Centre Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: homelycooking on June 05, 2011, 03:27:46 PM
8 for PSOE
4 for Labour Party (UK)
2 for CDU/CSU
1 for Socialist Party (France)

Keep
4 for Social Democrats (Denmark)
2 for Conservative Party (Norway)
1 for Centre Party (Norway)

You are the enemy of all that is good and beautiful. :)

Eliminate
8 Social Democrats - Denmark
4 Centre Party - Norway
2 Liberal Party - Norway
1 Cyprus Progressive Party
Keep
4 PSOE
2 UK Labour
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Hash on June 06, 2011, 09:32:56 AM
eliminate
8 Social democrats (denmark)
4 SPO
2 Italy of Values
1 FG

keep
4 Vihr
2 Venstre (Norway)
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 07, 2011, 05:16:54 AM
Why the Danish Social-Democrats ? :'( All this to save a useless centrist green party. >:(

Eliminate :
8 Virh
4 KKE
2 FG
1 SP

Keep :
4 Danish Social Democrats :(
2 Venstre
1 Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 07, 2011, 05:39:47 AM
Social Democrats (Denmark) is out

AKA "Socialdemokraterne"

()

Leader : Helle Thorning-Schmidt
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_parliamentary_election,_2007)) : 25.5%, 45/179 seats

A : 28
GL : 16
H : 14
Virh : 10
KKE : 8
SP : 8
FG : 8
SPÖ : 4
PSOE : 4
EELV : 3
V : 0
C : 0
PS : 0
Lab : 0
AKEL : -1
IdV : -2
GRÜNE : -3
CDU/CSU : -9



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland)) Immune for rounds 5-9
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 8 begins. You have 10 votes to eliminate, for this round and round 18. You will be able to use in round 18 the votes you don't cast now (for example, if you cast 7 now, you'll have 3 on round 18). You must cast all your votes for the same party.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 07, 2011, 06:15:09 AM
Come on guys, let's do this right.

9 Virh


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Nhoj on June 07, 2011, 07:20:58 AM
7 Centre Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: homelycooking on June 07, 2011, 08:43:33 AM
5 Norwegian Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Hash on June 07, 2011, 09:11:41 AM
5 Norwegian Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: JonBidinger on June 07, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
4 Center Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 07, 2011, 01:01:49 PM
Meh...

I can still have some hope with Fab, Julio, Ben and maybe Edu (if he doesn't again cast a useless protest vote :P).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 07, 2011, 01:09:09 PM
1 Center Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: BenNebbich on June 07, 2011, 01:33:45 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: big bad fab on June 07, 2011, 03:09:30 PM
9 Vihr


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 08, 2011, 06:17:20 AM
Green League (Finland) is out

AKA "Vihreä liitto"

()

Leader : Anni Sinnemäki
()

Last general election result (2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_parliamentary_election,_2011)) : 7.3%, 10/200 seats

Virh : 27
SP : 22
H : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland)) Immune for rounds 5-9
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 9 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate, and 1 vote to give immunity (don't cast it for the currently immune party).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 8
Post by: Edu on June 08, 2011, 06:18:18 AM
I was just going to give 1 vote for the Labour Party of the UK :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: homelycooking on June 08, 2011, 07:56:15 AM
Eliminate the Progressive Party of Working People, immunize PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: big bad fab on June 08, 2011, 08:21:19 AM
Eliminate Left Front
Immunize Labour


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 08, 2011, 10:48:32 AM
Eliminate KKE

Immunize IdV

I was just going to give 1 vote for the Labour Party of the UK :P

Sorry, I was about to go out. The good thing is that you'll have 10 votes to cast on round 18. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 08, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
Eliminate:
KKE

Immunize:
GroenLinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Nhoj on June 08, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Eliminate Left Front
Immunize Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: JonBidinger on June 08, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
Eliminate: KKE
Immunize: GroenLinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 09, 2011, 05:33:35 AM
Wftf ? C'mon guys, I can't keep this going with only 7 votes ! :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Edu on June 09, 2011, 06:12:34 AM
Eliminate Labour Party (UK)
Immunity for GroenLinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: BenNebbich on June 09, 2011, 08:58:46 AM
Eliminate Left Front
Immunize KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 9
Post by: Hash on June 09, 2011, 04:28:41 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 10, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
Left Front (France) is out

AKA "Front de gauche"

()

Leader : Jean-Luc Mélenchon
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_legislative_election,_2007)) : 4.3%, 15/577 seats (results for the French Communist Party)

FG : 5
KKE : 3
AKEL : 1
Lab : 1

Immunity :
GL : 4
KKE : 2
PSOE : 1
Lab : 1
IdV : 1
AKEL : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft) Immune for rounds 10-14
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 10 begins. You have 7 votes to eliminate, to cast 4-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 10, 2011, 12:10:05 PM
4 Kesk
2 KKE
1 Center Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Nhoj on June 10, 2011, 12:14:59 PM
4 Kesk
2 Center Party (Norway)
1 Labour Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: BenNebbich on June 10, 2011, 12:51:26 PM
4 Center Norway
2 Center Finland
1 National Coalition Finland


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Edu on June 10, 2011, 01:13:18 PM
4 for the Labour Party (UK)
2 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
1 for PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: JonBidinger on June 10, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
4 Kesk
2 Centre Party (Norway)
1 KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 10, 2011, 02:40:20 PM
Eliminate:
4  KKE
2  CDU/CSU
1  Socialist Party (France)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: big bad fab on June 10, 2011, 03:37:40 PM
Eliminate
4 Kesk
2 PSOE
1 Europe Ecologie-Les Verts


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: homelycooking on June 10, 2011, 04:53:06 PM
Eliminate
4 Norway Centre
2 Norway Liberals
1 Finland Centre

Keep UK Labour

(BenNebbich's got the right idea)



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: BenNebbich on June 11, 2011, 06:30:41 AM
BenNebbich is on holiday three weeks.

without mails, mobil phones, sales reports, meetings and without survivors!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: big bad fab on June 11, 2011, 06:41:16 AM
BenNebbich is on holiday three weeks.

without mails, mobil phones, sales reports, meetings and without survivors!

:'(

Enjoy your holidays :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 11, 2011, 02:06:06 PM
I've PMed Ben about an "absentee ballot" like I've done with Fab, but he still hasn't replied. :(

Also, we still miss 3 votes here ! :( :( :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 12, 2011, 12:59:32 PM
I won't close this round if we don't get at least one more vote.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 10
Post by: Hash on June 12, 2011, 03:05:13 PM
4  Center Party (Norway)
2 KESK
1 Labour


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 13, 2011, 04:10:49 AM
Centre Party (Norway) is out

AKA "Senterpartiet"

()

Leader : Liv Signe Navarsete
()

Last general election result (2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_parliamentary_election,_2009)) : 6.2%, 11/169 seats

SP : 21 (more votes in previous rounds)
Kesk : 21
KKE : 7
Lab : 6
CDU/CSU : 4
PS : 3
PSOE : 3
V : 2
EELV : 1
Kok : 1
SAP : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft) Immune for rounds 10-14
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 11 begins. You have 10 votes to eliminate, to cast 4-3-2-1, and 3 votes to keep, to cast 2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 13, 2011, 04:17:47 AM
Eliminate :
4 Kesk
3 KKE
2 Labour (UK)
1 Kok

Keep :
2 IdV
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: big bad fab on June 13, 2011, 05:11:07 AM
Eliminate
4 Kesk
3 PSOE
2 Europe-Ecologie-les Verts
1 IdV

Keep
2 Labour
1 CDU-CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 13, 2011, 05:38:44 AM
Oh BTW, Ben's vote :

Eliminate
4 Grüne
3 EELV
2 IdV
1 PSOE

Keep :
2 AKEL
1 KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Hash on June 13, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
eliminate
4 IDV
3 KESK
2 Labour
1 CDU/CSU

keep
2 KKE
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: homelycooking on June 13, 2011, 08:07:20 AM
Eliminate
4 KESK
3 Norwegian Liberals
2 Progressive Party Cyprus
1 Swedish Centre

Keep
2 Labour
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Nhoj on June 13, 2011, 08:42:17 AM
4 KESK
3 Labour
2 PSOE
1 Social Democratic Party of Austria

keep
2 KKE
1 Norwegian Liberals


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 13, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
Eliminate:
4  KKE
3  KESK
2  IdV
1  CDU/CSU

Keep:
2  Bündnis 90/Die Grünen
1  Europe-Ecologie-les Verts


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: Edu on June 13, 2011, 01:52:29 PM
4 for PSOE
3 for the Labour Party (UK)
2 for Socialist Party (France)
1 for CDU/CSU

Keep
2 for KESK
1 for IdV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 11
Post by: JonBidinger on June 13, 2011, 02:28:02 PM
Eliminate:
4 Centre Party (Finland)
3 National Coalition Party (Finland)
2 Liberal Party (Norway)
1 Conservative Party (Norway)

Keep:
2 Socialist Party (France)
1 Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 14, 2011, 06:18:49 AM
Centre Party (Finland) is out

AKA "Suomen Keskusta", Kesk

()

Leader : Mari Kiviniemi
()

Last general election result (2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_parliamentary_election,_2011)) : 15.8%, 35/200 seats

Kesk : 24
PSOE : 10
Lab : 8
IdV : 6
PS : 4
V : 4
Kok : 4
EELV : 3
Grüne : 2
KKE : 2
SPÖ : 2
CDU/CSU : 2
H : 1
C : 1
AKEL : 0



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft) Immune for rounds 10-14
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 12 begins. You have 5 votes to eliminate, to cast 1-1-1-1-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: big bad fab on June 14, 2011, 07:02:54 AM
Oh... awful rule... a very bad surprise in sight, probably...

Eliminate
1 PSOE
1 Europe Ecologie-les Verts
1 Italy of Values
1 Liberal Party (Norway)
1 PS (yes, the French one...)



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Nhoj on June 14, 2011, 07:19:00 AM
Eliminate
1 PSOE
1 Labour Party (UK)
1 PS
1 Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France)
1 SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Hash on June 14, 2011, 08:46:07 AM
1 Labour
1 IDV
1 SPO
1 PS
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: JonBidinger on June 14, 2011, 09:05:24 AM
1 AKEL
1 KoK
1 KKE
1 V (Norway)
1 H (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: homelycooking on June 14, 2011, 09:41:49 AM
Eliminate
Norwegian Liberals
National Coalition Party
Sweden Centre
Progressive Party Cyprus
Swedish Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Edu on June 14, 2011, 11:54:29 AM
PSOE
CDU/CSU
Labour Party (UK)
Socialist Party (France)
Moderate Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 14, 2011, 12:09:37 PM
Ben's vote : Grüne, EELV, IdV, PSOE, PS


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 14, 2011, 12:12:59 PM
And mine : KKE, Labour, Kok, Venstre (Norway), Centre (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 12
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 14, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
CDU/CSU
KKE
KOK
Italy of Values
PS (France)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 15, 2011, 01:35:11 PM
Socialist Party (France) is out

AKA "Parti Socialiste", PS

()

Leader : Martine Aubry
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_legislative_election,_2007)) : 24.7%, 186/577 seats

PS : 7
PSOE : 5
Lab : 5
V : 4
IdV : 4
Kok : 4
KKE : 3
EELV : 3
CDU/CSU : 3
SPÖ : 2
AKEL : 2
M : 2
C : 2
H : 1
SAP : 1
Grüne : 1
DNA : 1

For some reason Jarl wanted to oust the Danish SDs for a second time (or did I misinterpret "A" ?). :P



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft) Immune for rounds 10-14
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 13 begins. You can choose how to cast your eliminate votes, between 3 different combinations :
- 4 votes, to cast for a single party.
- 6 votes, to cast 3-3.
- 8 votes, to cast 2-2-2-2.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 15, 2011, 02:39:40 PM
4  KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: big bad fab on June 15, 2011, 02:53:26 PM
2 PSOE
2 IdV
2 EELV
2 AKEL


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Nhoj on June 15, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
3 PSOE
3 Labour Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: homelycooking on June 15, 2011, 06:48:35 PM
Avenge the death of the Parti socialiste! Vote for boring Scandinavians!

2 Progressive Party Cyprus
2 Norway Liberals
2 Sweden Moderates
2 Sweden Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Edu on June 16, 2011, 05:59:12 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Hash on June 16, 2011, 08:46:26 AM
3 Labour
3 AKEL


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: JonBidinger on June 16, 2011, 10:23:46 AM
3 AKEL
3 KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 16, 2011, 11:15:35 AM
Avenge the death of the Parti socialiste! Vote for boring Scandinavians!

2 Progressive Party Cyprus
2 Norway Liberals
2 Sweden Moderates
2 Sweden Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 16, 2011, 12:26:53 PM
Here's Ben's vote (I've chosen the "middle groung" option :P) :
3 Grüne
3 EELV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 13
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 16, 2011, 12:28:26 PM
My own :
3 KKE
3 Labour


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 16, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) is out

AKA "Anorthotikó Kómma Ergazómenou Laoú", AKEL

()

Leader : Andros Kyprianou
()

Last general election result (2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypriot_legislative_election,_2011)) : 32.7%, 19/56 seats

AKEL : 14
Lab : 12
KKE : 10
PSOE : 8
M : 6
EELV : 5
C : 4
V : 4
Grüne : 3
IdV : 2
H : 2
SAP : 2



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft) Immune for rounds 10-14
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 14 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate, and 1 vote to give immunity (don't cast it for the currently immune party).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Nhoj on June 16, 2011, 02:19:14 PM
Eliminate Labour Party (UK)
Immunity CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 16, 2011, 02:44:35 PM
Eliminate:
KKE

Immunity:
Bündnis 90/Die Grünen


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Edu on June 16, 2011, 03:32:56 PM
Damn it, another immunity round? All the joy of eliminating the french socialist party is crumbling right now.

Eliminate Labour Party (UK)

Immunity for Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: homelycooking on June 16, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
Eliminate Sweden Centre

Immunize CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: big bad fab on June 16, 2011, 05:04:04 PM
Eliminate KKE
(:'( forced move: why haven't you voted for PSOE, Edu and Nhoj, and not Labour !? :()

Immunize CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Edu on June 16, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
Eliminate KKE
(:'( forced move: why haven't you voted for PSOE, Edu and Nhoj, and not Labour !? :()

Because with some luck Hash, Julio and Antonio will vote for Labour too. If we voted PSOE we would only have you as an ally but the aformentioned posters would vote for KKE (Or whichever party had most votes apart from PSOE)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: big bad fab on June 16, 2011, 05:12:59 PM
Eliminate KKE
(:'( forced move: why haven't you voted for PSOE, Edu and Nhoj, and not Labour !? :()

Because with some luck Hash, Julio and Antonio will vote for Labour too. If we voted PSOE we would only have you as an ally but the aformentioned posters would vote for KKE (Or whichever party had most votes apart from PSOE)

When Labour is ousted, I'll kill all the voters of this survivor, one by one ;D.

That's what you can call "clean moderation of an Internet forum".


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: JonBidinger on June 16, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
Eliminate KKE
Immunize Bündnis '90/Die Grünen


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Edu on June 16, 2011, 05:18:06 PM
Eliminate KKE
(:'( forced move: why haven't you voted for PSOE, Edu and Nhoj, and not Labour !? :()

Because with some luck Hash, Julio and Antonio will vote for Labour too. If we voted PSOE we would only have you as an ally but the aformentioned posters would vote for KKE (Or whichever party had most votes apart from PSOE)

When Labour is ousted, I'll kill all the voters of this survivor, one by one ;D.

That's what you can call "clean moderation of an Internet forum".

Well, since Antonio voted for KKE too i don't know what he'll decide. And JonBidinger voted for KKE. I have no idea what will happen with Ben. So Labour is far from being the determined eliminated party.

And I shriver to think that CDU has a chance of getting immunity :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 17, 2011, 01:02:03 AM
Ben votes to oust Grüne and immunize KKE.


As for me :

Eliminate KKE (finally ! :D)

Immunize IdV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Hash on June 17, 2011, 09:19:31 AM
eliminate Labour
immunize KKE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 14
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 17, 2011, 11:16:58 AM
eliminate KKE

inmunity PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 17, 2011, 03:35:48 PM
Communist Party of Greece is out

AKA "Kommounistikó Kómma Elládas", KKE

()

Leader : Aleka Papariga
()

Last general election result (2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_legislative_election,_2009)) : 7.5%, 21/300 seats

KKE : 5
Lab : 3
Grüne : 1
C : 1
SAP : 1

Immunity :
CDU/CSU : 4
Grüne : 3
KKE : 2
PSOE : 1
IdV : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for rounds 15-19
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 15 begins. You have 4 votes to eliminate, to cast 1-1-1-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: big bad fab on June 17, 2011, 03:54:21 PM
Phew....! It's harder and harder :P

1 PSOE
1 EE-LV
1 GreenLeft
1 Liberal Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: JonBidinger on June 17, 2011, 04:01:22 PM
1 KoK
1 GreenLeft
1 Liberal Party (Norway)
1 Conservative Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Nhoj on June 17, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
This displeases me...

1 PSOE
1 Labour Party (UK)
1 GreenLeft (Netherlands)
1 Social Democratic Party of Austria



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 17, 2011, 04:05:22 PM
Finally that horrible crap is gone ! :D KKE was like a stain in this final phase, all the more when Vihr and Kesk got ousted. Now I can finally focus on some good-but-not-so-great parties like Labour, Europe Ecologie, etc... This is probably going to be the most tense part of the survivor (because one can accept to see his favorite losing, but hardly accepts not to even reach the top 5). Let's see how things will evolve, but I foresee a lot of tension. ;)

Also to note, KKE is the last party to go from the former far-left group. This group is the second one to remain without a participant, preceded by the far-right (since mid-phase II). I think all the remaining four have a decent shot at getting in the top 5. :)


Anyways, Ben's vote :
Grüne
EELV
IdV
PSOE


And mine :
Labour
Kok
EELV
Venstre (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Edu on June 17, 2011, 05:52:31 PM

Lol, are you kidding me? Labour is still here and CrapDU is immune. Both in the top 16 and CDU will probably reach the top 10...ugh ;D

And it probably wouldn't have made a difference, but why the hell did Julio vote for KKE instead of labour? Now i'm going after PSOE as my main target again :P



PSOE
Labour Party (UK)
Moderate Party (Sweden)
Norwegian Labour Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Hash on June 17, 2011, 06:05:23 PM
An bourgeois capitalist conspiracy has shamelessly defeated the only true representative of the proletariat and popular strata against the capitalist exploiters and the opportunist SYRIZA. This decision is an anti-communist frenzy, part of the anti-communist campaign, which is led by the forum and the bourgeois (social democratic and conservative) governments. With this decision the forum is taking practical measures and goes beyond the vulgar forgery and the rewriting of history, the anti-historical equation of fascism and communism, and the mudslinging against the working class' gains in the socialist countries. At the same time capital, the forum and the bourgeois governments and parties, are waving the terrorist dilemmas of the members' fiscal deficits and public debts, are bending the lives and rights of the working class and of the popular strata, are squeezing the cost of labour to a historically low level, are increasing the monopolies' profitability. They allocate a bundle of money to irrigate the people with the anticommunist poison, especially the young generation and the new generations of the working class.

This example highlights that bourgeois democracy is nothing other than the dictatorship of the monopolies. Today the workers can think hard on this and draw conclusions because the anti-people assault of the plutocracy, its governments and of the EU goes hand in hand with anti-communism. The real and timely question is: which class is in power? Democracy for which class? The popular, labour and democratic rights can only be ensured in a regime of popular power, socialism, when the people will take charge of the wealth they produce.

Labour, "social democratic" bourgeois anti-popular
IDV, opportunist bourgeois
SPO, "social democratic" oppressors of the popular strata
SAP, "social democratic" class enemies

The working people, armed with its experience, will crush the hand of the capital and its political staff who go to stand against the communists. Reversing their political correlations to the detriment of the parties of capital, strengthening the Communist Party. Strengthening the socio-political alliance, the struggle for the People's Power and Economy.

KKE. For Strong People.

17.06.2011

The International Section of the Central Committee of the KKE
x Comrade Hashikis L'Herminakis
 


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 18, 2011, 02:29:55 AM
Awesome. ;D


Now i'm going after PSOE as my main target again :P

That's an error. There are far more people disposed to follow you against Labour (me, Julio, Hashemite...) than against PSOE.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 18, 2011, 12:31:49 PM
1  KOK
1  Conservative Party (Norway)
1  Liberal Party (Norway)
1  Italy of Values


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: big bad fab on June 18, 2011, 03:03:24 PM
"Harder and harder" to keep Labour, Edu, nothing else :).

I must admit the recent rounds were finer, with some Greens and bad leftists being ousted...

You know what it is: you have 10 and you want 100, forgetting that you may have 0 instead ;).

And Antonio is wrong: we'll succeed in ousting the PSOE ;D.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 18, 2011, 03:10:18 PM
And Antonio is wrong: we'll succeed in ousting the PSOE ;D.

You'll succeed in ousting 15 of the 16 remaining parties, so that's not saying much. ;D

Labour will go down before PSOE... at least I'll do my best for that. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 19, 2011, 04:44:49 AM
Why didn't Homely vote ? ???


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 15
Post by: homelycooking on June 19, 2011, 08:00:56 AM
Sorry, I forgot.

Swedish Moderates
Swedish Centre
National Coalition Party
Norwegian Liberals


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 19, 2011, 08:39:59 AM
Labour Party (UK) is out

()

Leader : Ed Miliband
()

Last general election result (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2010)) : 29.0%, 258/650 seats

Lab : 5 (more votes in previous rounds)
V : 5
PSOE : 4
Kok : 4
EELV : 3
IdV : 3
GL : 3
SPÖ : 3
H : 3
SAP : 2
M : 2
C : 1
Grüne : 1
DNA : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for rounds 15-19
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 16 begins. You have 31 votes to eliminate, to cast 16-8-4-2-1, and 7 votes to keep, to cast 4-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: homelycooking on June 19, 2011, 08:53:14 AM
Eliminate
16 Sweden Centre
8 Sweden Moderates
4 National Coalition
2 Norway Liberals
1 Democrats 66

Keep
4 PSOE
2 Italy of Values
1 GroenLinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Hash on June 19, 2011, 09:05:22 AM
eliminate
16 IDV
8 SAP
4 KOK
2 SPO
1 Moderates

keep
4 Centre (Sweden)
2 Norway Liberals
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 19, 2011, 09:06:04 AM
Eliminate:
16  KOK
8  Conservative Party (Norway)
4  Italy of Values
2  Liberal Party (Norway)
1  Moderate Party (Sweden)

Keep:
4  Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany)
2  Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France)
1  GreenLeft (Netherlands)






Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 19, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
Wow, didn't imagine this would come so soon. ;D Homely almost changed the outcome at the last second... But eventually, Labour won't be in the top 15, which is great news. :)

I've been Edu's ally in these last rounds, but I think the next ones will make me close to Fab again (Europe Ecologie will soon be my top target ;)). But before that, let's focus on a pretty obvious target.

Eliminate :
16 Kok
8 EE-LV
4 Venstre (N)
2 Centre Party (S)
1 SPÖ

Keep :
4 IdV
2 SAP
1 Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 19, 2011, 09:37:43 AM
And Ben's vote...

Eliminate :
16 Grüne
8 EELV
4 IdV
2 PSOE
Exhausted

Keep :
4 SPÖ
2 D66
Exhausted

I asked him to list 10 parties for each, but he listed only 5 instead... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Edu on June 19, 2011, 09:52:32 AM
Yes!!! ;D

Now there are 2 remaining, but the bad news is that one of them is immune and there are a ton of votes this round, which means that it will be complicated to oust PSOE without eliminating another party :P

16 for PSOE
8 for GreenLeft (Netherlands)
4 for Social Democratic Party of Austria
2 for Norwegian Labour Party
1 for Swedish Social Democratic Party

Keep
4 for KOK
2 for Italy of Values
1 for Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Nhoj on June 19, 2011, 12:14:28 PM

16 for PSOE
8 for GreenLeft (Netherlands)
4 for Social Democratic Party of Austria
2 for Moderate Party (Sweden
1 for Swedish Social Democratic Party

Keep
4 for KOK
2 for Italy of Values
1 for Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: big bad fab on June 19, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Well, FORTUNATELY, you've included Ed's photo: my pain is really smaller ;D

AND SO DIES THE EPITOMY OF POLITICAL PARTIES IN EUROPE !
You should be ashamed!!!!

Eliminate
16 PSOE
8 GreenLeft
4 IdV
2 EE-LV
1 Liberal Party (Norway)

Keep
4 KOK
2 Moderate Party (Sweden)
1 Norwegian Labour Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: JonBidinger on June 19, 2011, 07:05:33 PM
16 KoK
8 Conservative Party (Norway)
4 Liberal Party (Norway)
2 Centre Party (Sweden)
1 Moderate Party (Sweden)

4 PSOE
2 IdV
1 EELV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 19, 2011, 07:08:40 PM
16 KoK
8 GreenLeft
4 Liberal Party (Norway)
2 Centre Party (Sweden)
1 Moderate Party (Sweden)

4 PSOE
2 IdV
1 SPO


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 16
Post by: Edu on June 19, 2011, 07:56:30 PM
Damn it!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 20, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
National Coalition Party (Finland) is out

AKA "Kansallinen Kokoomus", Kok

()

Leader : Jyrki Katainen (Prime Minister of Finland)
()

Last general election result (2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_parliamentary_election,_2011)) : 20.4%, 44/200 seats

Kok : 56
PSOE : 54
GL : 30
H : 18
IdV : 18
SAP : 16
V : 15
C : 15
EELV : 13
M : 12
Grüne : 11
SPÖ : 6
DNA : 2
D66 : -2



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for rounds 15-19
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 17 begins. You have 3 votes to eliminate, to cast 2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Hash on June 20, 2011, 12:07:20 PM
2 SAP
1 IDV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: homelycooking on June 20, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
2 Norwegian Liberals
1 Sweden Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Nhoj on June 20, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
2 PSOE
1 GL


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: JonBidinger on June 20, 2011, 01:46:39 PM
2 Norwegian Liberals
1 Sweden Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 20, 2011, 01:49:54 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Edu on June 20, 2011, 01:54:55 PM
Ok, let's see if we can finally eliminate the crap

2 for PSOE
1 for Italy of Values


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: big bad fab on June 20, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
2 PSOE
1 EE-LV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 21, 2011, 01:12:54 AM
2 Venstre
1 EELV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 21, 2011, 01:14:13 AM
Ben :

2 Grüne
1 EELV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 21, 2011, 12:43:40 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Edu on June 21, 2011, 01:24:22 PM
Why the hell did Ethelbert give 2 votes to the SAP and just 1 vote to PSOE when last round it was the other way around? Mate, i could have helped you eliminate the SAP next round if you wanted after the elimination of the spaniards, now we get BOTH PSOE and SAP once more :'(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: big bad fab on June 22, 2011, 04:56:46 AM
Should have tried GL rather than PSOE... sigh...

And this big joke of EE-LV is still here... ::)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 22, 2011, 06:26:24 AM
Ok, let's see if we can finally eliminate the crap

2 for PSOE
1 for Italy of Values


are you calling PSOE "the crap"?? Please, let's be more respectful, it's my party hahaha...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Edu on June 22, 2011, 06:47:17 AM
Sorry, in the context of this survivor ;) ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 22, 2011, 11:49:38 AM
Sorry guys, I'll do my best to update this tomorrow.


Why the hell did Ethelbert give 2 votes to the SAP and just 1 vote to PSOE when last round it was the other way around? Mate, i could have helped you eliminate the SAP next round if you wanted after the elimination of the spaniards, now we get BOTH PSOE and SAP once more :'(

DON'T TOUCH SAP !!! DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Yeah, you got it, it's my pick for survivor.


Quote
And this big joke of EE-LV is still here... ::)

Wanna see it out ? Leave Edu and his vendettas and ally with me. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: big bad fab on June 22, 2011, 12:35:41 PM
The problem is that with hack votes (;D) from Hans, Julio and Jon Bidinger, neither PSOE nor EE-LV seems to be on the edge of being ousted.

In these cases, the experience pleads to keep voting for the same, as your enemies are going to be divided ;D.

It may turn out to be stupid though, as they don't bother to give points to Swedish Moderates, just to save PSOE... !!!!
Something really outrageous ;).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Hash on June 22, 2011, 12:36:51 PM
Can I change my vote?


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Edu on June 22, 2011, 12:42:20 PM
I just realised the SAP is the Swedish Social Democratic Party :P

The SAP and the SPÖ are my two picks to reach the final, so no, i won't vote to eliminate them.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: big bad fab on June 22, 2011, 03:29:11 PM
SAP should be in the top 5 (well, now, it's more the top 3), but there is another one which would be better, more original, but still quite consensual as a winner ;D

(no, that's not a rightist party: you see that I'm really oecumenical ;))


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Edu on June 22, 2011, 04:11:31 PM
Please don't tell me you are referring to the Norwegian Labour party... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: big bad fab on June 23, 2011, 02:57:28 AM
Please don't tell me you are referring to the Norwegian Labour party... :P

;D

Epic electoral maps, perfect early history, a political party by the book !

And if you don't like it, it still leaves CDU ;D.

(Apart from saving PSOE, I'll do whatever is required to avoid a Grüne-GreenLeft-D66 top 3 :P)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 17
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 23, 2011, 05:57:54 AM
I just realised the SAP is the Swedish Social Democratic Party :P

The SAP and the SPÖ are my two picks to reach the final, so no, i won't vote to eliminate them.

Wow, you are not as evil as I thought... ;D

DNA and SAP are both pure awesomeness, but they're too similar to be both in the top 5. So between the two, I pick the one that has managed to stay in power for 40 straight years, and for 21 of the following 30 years. ;)



I'd prefer you wouldn't, especially now that the survivor should have been updated since a while (my bad, I know). Of course if you really want I can make an exception, as long as people don't start doing it constantly. Don't worry, if my count is correct, PSOE is safe. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 23, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
Liberal Party (Norway) is out

AKA "Venstre"

()

Leader : Trine Skei Grande
()

Last general election result (2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_parliamentary_election,_2009)) : 3.9%, 2/169 seats

V : 10
PSOE : 7
M : 4
SAP : 4
EELV : 3
Grüne : 2
IdV : 2
GL : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for rounds 15-19
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 18 begins. For this round, you can use the votes you haven't cast on round 8 (that is, 1 for me, 1 for Ben, 1 for Fab, 3 for Nhoj, 5 for Homely, 5 for Hash, 6 for Jon, 9 for Jarl, 9 for Hans, and 10 for anyone else ; if I've made a mistake you can of course correct me ;)). You must cast all your votes for the same party.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 23, 2011, 12:22:48 PM
1 to EELV

Ben : 1 to Grüne


This round will go pretty weirdly IMO... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 23, 2011, 12:47:48 PM
9 Conservative Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Edu on June 23, 2011, 01:08:49 PM
zzzzzz

10 for PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: big bad fab on June 23, 2011, 02:43:05 PM
1 PSOE

I do my best here :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: JonBidinger on June 23, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
6 Conservative Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: homelycooking on June 23, 2011, 03:49:49 PM
5 to Sweden Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Nhoj on June 23, 2011, 04:43:25 PM
3 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Hash on June 24, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooo the best party in Europe loses :( :( :(

5 Hoyre (it's a good party, but the PSOE is too fascinating of a party. But then again I live and breathe only for Spanish politics).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 25, 2011, 05:22:05 AM
10 6 Conservative Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: big bad fab on June 25, 2011, 05:33:09 AM
C'était trop beau pour être vrai !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 18
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 26, 2011, 09:04:10 AM
Jarl hasn't voted in 3 days... His vote can't change the outcome, but I hope we haven't lost him. :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 26, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
Conservative Party (Norway) is out

AKA "Høyre"

()

Leader : Erna Solberg
()

Last general election result (2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_parliamentary_election,_2009)) : 17.2%, 30/169 seats

H : 30
PSOE : 14
C : 5
EELV : 1
Grüne : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for rounds 15-19
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 19 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate, and 1 vote to give immunity (don't cast it for the currently immune party).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 26, 2011, 11:53:30 AM
Eliminate Center Party (Sweden)

Immunize Italia dei Valori


I've decided to remain consensual this round, because IMO the next sequence will be extremely bitter. There are few parties left and all (except the Swedish Centre AFAIK) are loved by at least one participant, so there will be blood and suffering. ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Hash on June 26, 2011, 11:54:12 AM
eliminate IDV
immunity PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 26, 2011, 11:56:38 AM
Ben eliminates Grüne and immunizes SPÖ.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Edu on June 26, 2011, 12:16:01 PM
Eliminate PSOE
Immunity for SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Nhoj on June 26, 2011, 01:16:14 PM
Eliminate PSOE
Immunity for  Italia dei Valori


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: JonBidinger on June 26, 2011, 01:30:46 PM
Eliminate Swedish Centre
Immunize IdV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: big bad fab on June 26, 2011, 02:55:17 PM
Eliminate PSOE
Immunity for SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: homelycooking on June 26, 2011, 05:17:04 PM
Eliminate Sweden Centre
Immunize PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 26, 2011, 07:25:57 PM

This.

IMHO, you should let at least one spanish political party alive if we still have 3 swedish parties and 2 german and dutch parties ;)
I'll always try to protect my party hahahaha...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Edu on June 26, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
Yep, people are insisting on destroying the fun in this survivor


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: big bad fab on June 27, 2011, 01:33:11 AM
Kill IdV if you want but not the Swedish Centre.
I hate Swedish Centre's current ideology, but it's another very old party, with a very interesting specificity.
I guess CDU or Moderates won't even last long among the top ten...

The only Latin party which would have deserved to remain at this stage would have been the French Radical Party !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 27, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
Hans hasn't voted yet... :(


Kill IdV if you want but not the Swedish Centre.
I hate Swedish Centre's current ideology, but it's another very old party, with a very interesting specificity.

Isn't it the case for most Scandinavian parties ? We eliminated Norwegian and Danish Venstre, Danish Social-Democrats, Hoyre, the Norwegian Centre, etc... History is important but when you have only 12 parties left you can't have it as your only criterion.

And I said I wanted to be consensual... :P

It's not like I'm an unconditional fan of the PSOE either, if this reassures you. ;) It is now very close in my "to eliminate list".


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: big bad fab on June 27, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
That's why I never protested against all the Scandinavian parties we had in the last stage. They aren't boring for me ;D.
But now, this is the reverse situation: we are about to have more Latin parties (or stupidly young ones :P) than old Scandinavian.

And with neither the Tories nor the Labour, how can I be other than a very angry lil' bad boy, whining at this AWFUL choice that awaits us between Grünen, D66 and GreenLeft :P.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 27, 2011, 08:23:34 PM
That's why I never protested against all the Scandinavian parties we had in the last stage. They aren't boring for me ;D.
But now, this is the reverse situation: we are about to have more Latin parties (or stupidly young ones :P) than old Scandinavian.

And with neither the Tories nor the Labour, how can I be other than a very angry lil' bad boy, whining at this AWFUL choice that awaits us between Grünen, D66 and GreenLeft :P.

My victim was going to be EE-LV, but it seemed to be PSOE vs. Swedish Centre... so, it was clear Iwould vote the Swedish people!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 28, 2011, 04:59:35 AM
That's why I never protested against all the Scandinavian parties we had in the last stage. They aren't boring for me ;D.
But now, this is the reverse situation: we are about to have more Latin parties (or stupidly young ones :P) than old Scandinavian.

And with neither the Tories nor the Labour, how can I be other than a very angry lil' bad boy, whining at this AWFUL choice that awaits us between Grünen, D66 and GreenLeft :P.

You're making me regret now... :( I'd gladly change my vote into EELV (really, wtf does this failure still do here ?).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 19
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 28, 2011, 05:58:43 AM
Let's re-make this round!!

1 vote do EE-LV hahaha..


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 28, 2011, 06:54:32 AM
Centre Party (Sweden) is out

AKA "Centerpartiet"

()

Leader : Maud Olofsson
()

Last general election result (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2010)) : 6.6%, 23/349 seats

C : 4
PSOE : 3
SAP : 1
IdV : 1
Grüne : 1

Immunity :
SPÖ : 3 (winner by coin toss)
IdV : 3
PSOE : 3
C : 1



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) Immune for rounds 20-24
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 20 begins. You have 15 votes to eliminate, to cast 5-4-3-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 28, 2011, 07:04:42 AM
Ben :

5 Grüne
4 EELV
3 IdV
2 PSOE
Exhausted


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 28, 2011, 07:47:13 AM
Ok, this is getting really hard. I can't not cast a vote without making some people angry, but I'll try to make everybody equally angry. ;D

5 EELV (sorry Hans and the other green-lovers)
4 PSOE (sorry Julio and Hash)
3 CDU/CSU (sorry Fab)
2 GroenLinks (sorry everybody except Fab)
1 IdV (sorry myself ! all this because SPÖ is immune...)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Nhoj on June 28, 2011, 07:50:29 AM
5 PSOE
4 GroenLinks
3 EELV
2 Swedish Social Democratic Party
1 IdV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: homelycooking on June 28, 2011, 08:25:31 AM
5 IdV
4 EELV
3 Sweden Moderates
2 Dems 66
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Hash on June 28, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
5 IDV
4 CDU/CSU
3 SAP
2 EELV
1 Sweden Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 28, 2011, 09:23:32 AM
5 EE-LV
4 GroenLinks
3 IdV
2 CDU/CSU
1 Moderate Party of Sweeden


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: big bad fab on June 28, 2011, 10:28:10 AM
5 PSOE
4 EE-LV
3 GreenLeft
2 IdV
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Edu on June 28, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
Wow, the bullcrap doesn't stop and it will get to the final 10. Why didn't Antonio just promote PSOE to the final at the very beginning of this and made a survivor just to find out the other finalist? :P

5 for PSOE
4 for CDU/CSU
3 for Norwegian Labour Party
2 for Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
1 for Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: JonBidinger on June 28, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
5 M
4 D66
3 GroenLinks
2 SAP
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: big bad fab on June 28, 2011, 03:31:20 PM
I know that I don't help the move with my 4 points for EE-LV.
But, really, they are so epic failure...
And, well, if they go, it will be mieux que rien ! ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 28, 2011, 04:09:32 PM
EELV is objectively less deserving to stay than PSOE. Both need to go though, so whatever is the results I will be satisfied. :)

Oh Edu, c'mon, I've never been a rabid defender of the PSOE, but a few ones had to go before it and I try to respect my logic.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Edu on June 28, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
Oh Edu, c'mon, I've never been a rabid defender of the PSOE, but a few ones had to go before it and I try to respect my logic.

Actually PSOE, Labour, the Tories, the Socialist party of France, CDU/CSU, the SPD Germany, the LibDems and the UMP should have all been eliminated before the start of Phase III but whatever ;D

I'll continue with my crusade, and if it fails...well, though luck for me :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 28, 2011, 04:32:31 PM
PSOE won't resist eternally... Actually I'm warming up to the idea of ousting it, mainly because I'm fed up of this stupid pro/anti-PSOE polarization. Once it is out, we could start again seeing more original combinations. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 20
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 28, 2011, 08:04:26 PM
PSOE won't resist eternally... Actually I'm warming up to the idea of ousting it, mainly because I'm fed up of this stupid pro/anti-PSOE polarization. Once it is out, we could start again seeing more original combinations. ;)

that's true, unfortunately... but PSOE deserves to be eliminated after the other parties Edu said. Remember we are the biggest socialist party in Europe :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2011, 05:14:45 AM
Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) is out

()

Leader : Cécile Duflot
()

Last general election result (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_legislative_election,_2007)) : 3.3%, 4/577 seats (results for The Greens)

EELV : 27
PSOE : 26
IdV : 23
GL : 16
CDU/CSU : 14
SAP : 12
M : 10
D66 : 10
Grüne : 6
DNA : 5



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) Immune for rounds 20-24
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 21 begins. You have 2 votes to eliminate, to cast 1-1, and 1 vote to keep.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on June 29, 2011, 05:28:37 AM
Eliminate:~

CDU/CSU
IDV

Keep:

green/ Buendnis 90


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2011, 05:36:38 AM
Ben :

Eliminate Grüne and IdV

Keep D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 29, 2011, 06:55:12 AM
1 CDU/CSU
1 IdV

keep PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Nhoj on June 29, 2011, 07:01:12 AM
Argh
1 PSOE
1 GroenLinks

keep
CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: big bad fab on June 29, 2011, 07:44:20 AM
Eliminate
PSOE
IdV

Keep
CDU-CSU

I can't vote for GreenLeft, I must be sure CDU is safe by voting for IdV...
Again, PSOE will stay in... I hate your rules, Antonio ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: homelycooking on June 29, 2011, 07:47:28 AM
Eliminate
IdV
Sweden Moderates

Keep PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Hash on June 29, 2011, 07:56:08 AM
eliminate CDU/CSU and IDV

keep D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2011, 08:20:38 AM
In some way, it is a bit of a pity to eliminate EELV just in the moment when its member seem to prove they aren't totally brainless. ;D But at least this is done. ;)

The final top 10 is nice enough, though of course there are some mistakes. :P It's a bit lopsided (7 left-wing parties and only 3 right-wing) but probably the next rounds will bring some balance. Now it's time to join Edu and Fab in our quest to kill PSOE. ;D


Eliminate PSOE and CDU/CSU

Keep IdV


Fab and Jarl, I must say I'm pretty disappointed by your strategic skills. If you really wanted PSOE out, you needed to protect Idv... If you had, at this point the race would be close and with Edu left to vote... :( Instead of blaming the voting system, try to adapt to it !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: big bad fab on June 29, 2011, 08:32:57 AM
C'mon ! You say this to me and at the same time, you vote for CDU ?!?

I can't try to kill PSOE at all costs: there is one cost I can't afford, losing CDU !!!

As we don't know at all about future rules and as your rules change so big from one round to another, I must be cautious.

And remember that YOU can choose when you vote, not us ;). We can't really calculate so much.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 29, 2011, 08:37:01 AM
Once PSOE's killed, Edu and other (I suppose) will go after CDU, big bad. So, each round PSOE survives, so does the CDU.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
C'mon ! You say this to me and at the same time, you vote for CDU ?!?

I can't try to kill PSOE at all costs: there is one cost I can't afford, losing CDU !!!

When I voted CDU stood at 0 (as much keep votes as eliminate) and IdV at 7. You clearly overestimated the risk.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: big bad fab on June 29, 2011, 08:52:28 AM
Once PSOE's killed, Edu and other (I suppose) will go after CDU, big bad. So, each round PSOE survives, so does the CDU.

Nice try, Julio ;D.
Though you're right for Edu, but only for him ;).

I just try to push CDU as long as I can, but I have no illusion: no rightist party would ever win a survivor !

But if you want to join a crusade against GreenLeft instead of CDU, then I may consider dropping my attacks on PSOE ;D.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: big bad fab on June 29, 2011, 08:58:53 AM
C'mon ! You say this to me and at the same time, you vote for CDU ?!?

I can't try to kill PSOE at all costs: there is one cost I can't afford, losing CDU !!!

When I voted CDU stood at 0 (as much keep votes as eliminate) and IdV at 7. You clearly overestimated the risk.

But when I voted, CDU was at 1 and IdV at 3, with Julio, JonBidinger, even yourself, Hash and homely to vote: far too potential votes against CDU.

You don't really live what a rightist is forced to live in these survivors :P : always aware that a big fine rightist party or politician is ousted, just because hawkeye, obamanation, Xahar, jfern, BRTD, JoeRepublic, etc. are bored and come here to drop a leftist vote, out of nowhere... ;D

The reverse risk from rightist forumers exists only in US politics, with this great bunch of stupid libertarian hacks.... As they don't know anything outside the US (errr... some ven don't know there is something outside the US), the situation of a rightist European is probably the worst ;D.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2011, 09:07:44 AM
Yeah, of course I understand. But PSOE must go very soon or a lot of awesome parties will be killed just for the sake of saving it.

Oh BTW, my rules follow a very precise logic (except those ending by 3 and 8) and by looking at previous rounds you could be able to predict what will be the rule used next time. ;) I hope this rule will be more prone to PSOE's elimination, but the rules matters far less than the way people vote.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Edu on June 29, 2011, 12:28:12 PM
You must be f**king kidding me. what the hell is this?

Eliminate
PSOE
CDU/CSU

Keep
IdV

Of course it will survive this round, but if it isn't ousted next round i think I'm going to use all my power (which is admittedly very little) to try and have a final between PSOE and some random green party just for the lulz :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
If it weren't for Fab, it'd be a tie... Add Jarl and PSOE would be out. :( Now I swear we'll kill it next round !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: big bad fab on June 29, 2011, 03:41:12 PM
This is my fault, now ?!? ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 29, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
Once PSOE's killed, Edu and other (I suppose) will go after CDU, big bad. So, each round PSOE survives, so does the CDU.

Nice try, Julio ;D.
Though you're right for Edu, but only for him ;).

I just try to push CDU as long as I can, but I have no illusion: no rightist party would ever win a survivor !

But if you want to join a crusade against GreenLeft instead of CDU, then I may consider dropping my attacks on PSOE ;D.

OK, let's go after GreenLeft.

Yeah, of course I understand. But PSOE must go very soon or a lot of awesome parties will be killed just for the sake of saving it.


Excuse me Antonio but PSOE is an awesome party.


I'm only joking of course. there aren't any awesome parties. PSOE is the least bad, for me.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: Edu on June 29, 2011, 06:43:31 PM
I'm willing to drop my votes against CDU till that party reaches the top 3 if PSOE gets eliminated next round ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: JonBidinger on June 29, 2011, 07:13:46 PM
Eliminate:
GroenLinks
Moderate Party

Keep:
IdV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 21
Post by: big bad fab on June 30, 2011, 02:05:01 AM
I'm willing to drop my votes against CDU till that party reaches the top 3 if PSOE gets eliminated next round ;D

Yesssss ! ;D
So, if my "agreement" with Julio is down, he'll take revenge in trying to kill CDU immediately ;).

All of this is joke, of course.
At least, we have some fun with these games. That's the aim !

There is a tiny opportunity my substitute favourite might win. You know, by default...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 30, 2011, 05:04:33 AM
Italy of Values is out

AKA "Italia dei Valori", IdV

()

Leader : Antonio Di Pietro
()

Last general election result (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_general_election,_2008)) : 4,4%, 29/630 seats

IdV : 4
PSOE : 3
CDU/CSU : 2
GL : 2
M : 2
Grüne : 0
D66 : -2



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) Immune for rounds 20-24
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 22 begins. You have 7 votes to eliminate, to cast 4-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 30, 2011, 05:10:00 AM
Please all those who want to kill PSOE, listen !

Edu, Fab, Jarl, Nhoj... Here is what we will do. Each of us will cast their 4 points for PSOE (traitors will be punished). We must cast our 2 following votes for a different party each. None of us shall cast their vote for the same pasrty as another. Edu can cast them for CDU/CSU, Fab for GL, Jarl for SAP, Nhoj for another one and I'll pick another one once you have cast your votes. If you can, try to choose a party the PSOistas haven't voted for.

I trust you, guys, don't disappoint me. United we shall win ! ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 30, 2011, 05:11:38 AM
Ben's vote :

4 Grüne
2 PSOE
Exhausted


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 30, 2011, 06:01:36 AM
OK, bye, bye PSOE!
You can't say this wasn't funny. Edu, big bad and others trying to oust PSOE each round.. but each round they failed hahaha...

4 SAP
2 Grune
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Nhoj on June 30, 2011, 07:18:32 AM
4 PSOE
2 Norwegian Labour Party
1 Moderate Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: homelycooking on June 30, 2011, 08:54:32 AM
4 Sweden Moderates
2 Dems 66
1 PSOE


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: big bad fab on June 30, 2011, 09:49:52 AM
Eliminate
4 PSOE
2 GreenLeft
1 Grünen

(well, that would have been my vote anyway: so, don't feel obliged to vote for CDU, Edu ;D)

Hope SAP won't be threatened now, but I think Hans would protect it, even if Hash gives it a bad strike ;).

SPÖ is really the luckiest party !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 30, 2011, 11:22:24 AM
OK, that's looking great. If Edu doesn't cast any vote for SAP, German Greens or the Sweden Moderates (and avoids doing so with a few others as well), there should be nothing able to stop PSOE's killing. *laughs diabolically* ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: BenNebbich on June 30, 2011, 12:32:50 PM
...next round i'm going to vote on my own again; thank you!!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 30, 2011, 12:36:32 PM
...next round i'm going to vote on my own again; thank you!!

You can cast a true vote right now if you want, as I couldn't cast 1 vote based on the preferences you gave me. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: JonBidinger on June 30, 2011, 02:15:06 PM
4 SAP
2 Moderate
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Hash on June 30, 2011, 03:37:42 PM
4 SAP
2 SPO
1 CDU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 30, 2011, 04:39:05 PM
LoL


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: homelycooking on June 30, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
Antonio's going to looooove this...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Niemeyerite on June 30, 2011, 08:17:51 PM
please, someone (even edu if he want to), vote SAP!!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: big bad fab on July 01, 2011, 02:38:32 AM
That's what I feared... sigh...

But Edu knows very well (oups ;)) that, among 2 old and boring parties, PSOE has to go before SAP ;D.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on July 01, 2011, 04:38:03 AM
Eliminate:
4  CDU/CSU
2  SAP
1  Moderate


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: big bad fab on July 01, 2011, 05:13:13 AM
OMG :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 22
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 01, 2011, 05:53:23 AM
What's up Fab ? Any problem ? Oh yeah, the SAP leads PSOE for elimination 16-15, but you just forgot that I haven't voted yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


And now I do !  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

4 PSOE
2 CDU/CSU
1 GL


And it's done ! Done ! Done ! Even if Edu doesn't show up it's done ! PSOE is dead !

And sanity can be back in this game....

Now chill up guys and realize your madness. You were so obsessed with saving your little PSOE that you were about to kill the best party in the world. You were about to commit a crime against awesomeness. Now that you are free from the PSOE's mind control, you'll cast votes for parties that deserve to go, and not just in order to save the PSOE.

THE SURVIVOR IS FREE !!!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 01, 2011, 06:18:46 AM
Spanish Socialist Workers' Party is out

AKA "Partido Socialista Obrero Español", PSOE

()

Leader : José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero (Prime Minister of Spain)
()

Last general election result (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_general_election,_2008)) : 43.9%, 169/350 seats

PSOE : 19
SAP : 16
M : 8
Grüne : 7
CDU/CSU : 7
D66 : 4
DNA : 3
GL : 3
SPÖ : 2 INVALID (LOL Hash, what did you smoke ? ;D)



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) Immune for rounds 20-24
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 23 begins. You have 5 votes, that you can cast totally freely (you can cast "eliminate" and/or "keep" votes, and for how many parties you want).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 01, 2011, 06:38:57 AM
what the best party of the world for you, antonio? is it SAP? =S

and you can't say you weren't afraid hahha... we almost saved PSOE!!

this round...
eliminate 5 CDU/CSU!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: big bad fab on July 01, 2011, 07:04:29 AM
Eliminate

5 GreenLeft

I guess it's doomed for CDU now... sigh...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 01, 2011, 08:11:57 AM
I give you full liberty in your votes and you cast monolithic 5pt eliminates ? >:( What a bore you are...

2 eliminate CDU
3 keep SAP


what the best party of the world for you, antonio? is it SAP? =S

Yep. ;) Have a look at this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Swedish_prime_ministers#Prime_Ministers_under_the_Kingdom_of_Sweden_.281905-Present.29) if you don't believe me. ;)


and you can't say you weren't afraid hahha... we almost saved PSOE!!

I were tense... But after Homelycooking's vote I knew the maths made it impossible for the PSOE's survival if we managed our votes intelligently. ;) Remember there was still Edu left to vote !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Hash on July 01, 2011, 08:29:14 AM
elim 5 CDU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: homelycooking on July 01, 2011, 09:02:15 AM
Eliminate 5 Sweden Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 01, 2011, 10:35:33 AM
I give you full liberty in your votes and you cast monolithic 5pt eliminates ? >:( What a bore you are...

2 eliminate CDU
3 keep SAP


what the best party of the world for you, antonio? is it SAP? =S

Yep. ;) Have a look at this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Swedish_prime_ministers#Prime_Ministers_under_the_Kingdom_of_Sweden_.281905-Present.29) if you don't believe me. ;)


and you can't say you weren't afraid hahha... we almost saved PSOE!!

I were tense... But after Homelycooking's vote I knew the maths made it impossible for the PSOE's survival if we managed our votes intelligently. ;) Remember there was still Edu left to vote !

Yes, I know Edu had to vote... but I didn't notice you hadn't voted hahaha...
Big Bad should have voted SAP if he had thought about it a little more. PSOE would be eliminated this round or the next, however, SAP will be protected by you, by me and by more people, I suppose. And it will probably be the survivor, I don't know.

And, that list is incredible. However, I think without Franco, we would have had a better list ;) Remember that the PSOE was the biggest party in the II Republic, too.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Nhoj on July 01, 2011, 10:59:11 AM
5 GreenLeft
Cdu going is just fine with me though.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 01, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
Just letting you know that Julio has contacted me that he'll be on holidays these next days, so I'll cast his votes like I've done for Fab and Ben.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Edu on July 01, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
Lol, i was sure i had voted, i even factored my 'vote' into my calculations :P

Well, the day finally came, after what? a month of trying to eliminate it? At last! ;D

Ok, i never actually promised it but i'm going to try and defend CDU till the top 3 since I'm too happy about the elimination of PSOE.


Very well, now we need to eliminate these damn green parties! Though CDU will probably go next.

Eliminate 5 for GreenLeft


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: JonBidinger on July 01, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
5 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: big bad fab on July 01, 2011, 03:28:59 PM
I give you full liberty in your votes and you cast monolithic 5pt eliminates ? >:( What a bore you are...

2 eliminate CDU
3 keep SAP


what the best party of the world for you, antonio? is it SAP? =S

Yep. ;) Have a look at this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Swedish_prime_ministers#Prime_Ministers_under_the_Kingdom_of_Sweden_.281905-Present.29) if you don't believe me. ;)


and you can't say you weren't afraid hahha... we almost saved PSOE!!

I were tense... But after Homelycooking's vote I knew the maths made it impossible for the PSOE's survival if we managed our votes intelligently. ;) Remember there was still Edu left to vote !

Yes, I know Edu had to vote... but I didn't notice you hadn't voted hahaha...
Big Bad should have voted SAP if he had thought about it a little more. PSOE would be eliminated this round or the next, however, SAP will be protected by you, by me and by more people, I suppose. And it will probably be the survivor, I don't know.

And, that list is incredible. However, I think without Franco, we would have had a better list ;) Remember that the PSOE was the biggest party in the II Republic, too.

Come on people, this is not my fault !! I repeat it ! :P

Sometimes, I prefer to lose than to betray my values or ideas ! ;D
And I'm not joking, in fact.

I just CAN'T vote for SAP or CDU, while all these modern liberal-progressive-young-yahoo craps of GrennLeft, Grünen, EE-LV were still here, that's all.
At least, PSOE has an history, a great one ;).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: BenNebbich on July 02, 2011, 01:28:45 AM
Eliminate

5 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 23
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on July 02, 2011, 03:34:02 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 04:56:47 AM
Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) is out

AKA "Christlich Demokratische Union/Christlich-Soziale Union", CDU/CSU

()
()

Leader : Angela Merkel (Chancellor of Germany)
()

Last general election result (2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_2009)) : 33.8%, 239/622 seats

CDU/CSU : 22
GL : 15
M : 5
D66 : 5
SAP : 2



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) Immune for rounds 20-24
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 24 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 05:02:58 AM
OK, I'll keep the lesson in mind : never let the voters free, they'll cast boring votes. >:(

Anyways, CDU is done too. ;)

Now let's go with GroenLinks.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 05:05:05 AM
Julio told me to cast his votes "tactically", so I'll let 3 or 4 persons vote before.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: big bad fab on July 02, 2011, 05:45:31 AM
Mmmm... that's a big advantage.

GreenLeft


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 06:10:14 AM
I honestly don't know what to do. On the one hand, he could have waited if he was the one casting the votes, but on the other hand there needs to be someone who votes at first... If you think it's unfair, no problem, I'll cast the vote immediately.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: homelycooking on July 02, 2011, 07:54:45 AM
Sweden Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: big bad fab on July 02, 2011, 07:55:22 AM
In fact, I don't know either.
"Usually", Julio is either not voting, or voting early. But I say this out of all the survivors.
I don't remember specifically in this one.
Honestly, no that all the big parties are out, except, that's not a big problem.
And I won't whine, whatever you decide. I promise ;).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Hash on July 02, 2011, 09:14:12 AM
SAP


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 09:21:02 AM
Ok, I think at this point Julio would have voted for the Swedish Moderates (to my great disappointment... :P).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: BenNebbich on July 02, 2011, 09:38:03 AM
Swedish Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 09:41:43 AM
No guys, just don't do that !

There are 2 right-wing parties left, do you want a totally lopsided top 5 ? Come on, even if you don't like the Moderates for political reasons, give them a shot for pluralism's sake !!!!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Nhoj on July 02, 2011, 10:12:13 AM
GreenLeft


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: big bad fab on July 02, 2011, 03:38:59 PM
D66 is probably enough to represent the right :P.
Antonio, did you really think a rightist party would be in the top 5 ?
It's already a miracle that we'll have 2 "traditional" centre-left parties... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Edu on July 02, 2011, 03:47:01 PM
Yep, 2 green parties among the top 7 is already 2 too many :P. Though they'll probably reach the top 5...Ugh.

Eliminate GreenLeft


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 02, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
OK, it's all up to our German greens, so. Hans and Jon, before you vote I'd like to ask you to think a lot about it. You might prefer (by far) GreenLeft to the Moderate Party for political reasons : I do too. But how fun will the top 5 be, if there won't be even one mainstream right party ? And for the mainstream right, the Moderates are a great party, very sane and pretty successful in government. They also have a pretty strong history, if that matters.


Please people, sacrify GreenLeft in the name of fun and of political balance ! Please save the Moderates !!! I beg you ! :'(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: JonBidinger on July 02, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
I was actually going to vote for GroenLinks anyways before I read your eloquent plea, but that didnt hurt. And I agree, the Moderate Party is pretty sane as these things go.

1 GroenLinks


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 03, 2011, 02:55:07 AM
Thank you Jon ! :) Sorry for doubting of you, but I always think about the worst possible scenarios. I'm so happy to see Fab proven wrong. ;D


I can't help but think about a scene like that. :P

"If you think the Moderates deserve to go, if... if you think they are objectively worse, less interesting than GreenLeft, then vote to eliminate them. But if you're doing this because GreenLeft better represents your political positions, then Fab is right. This survivor is biased. You have a choice. Maybe the last real one you'll have here."

Wondering if someone knows where this (rearranged) quote comes from. ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 03, 2011, 04:51:40 AM
GreenLeft (Netherlands) is out

AKA "GroenLinks", GL

()

Leader : Henk Nijhof
()

Last general election result (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_2010)) : 6.7%, 10/150 seats

GL : 5
M : 3
SAP : 2



()

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Round 25 begins. For this round, you don't vote to eliminate, but only to keep. The party with the least votes will be eliminated (if several parties receive no vote, the normal tiebreaking rules will be used). So please be very careful and try to avoid doing the contrary of what you wanted. ;)

This is the last round of Phase III. Once we have our top 5, the final sequence will start, with a new system that I hope you will enjoy. :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 03, 2011, 04:55:14 AM
No need for tactical voting here. Julio votes for SPÖ.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: JonBidinger on July 03, 2011, 07:06:53 AM
Bündnis 90/Die Grünen


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Hash on July 03, 2011, 08:29:23 AM
keep D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: BenNebbich on July 03, 2011, 02:03:04 PM
SPÖ

'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne....'


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Nhoj on July 03, 2011, 02:13:20 PM
keep D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: big bad fab on July 03, 2011, 03:35:52 PM
Keep Norwegian Labour Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 24
Post by: big bad fab on July 03, 2011, 03:39:04 PM
Thank you Jon ! :) Sorry for doubting of you, but I always think about the worst possible scenarios. I'm so happy to see Fab proven wrong. ;D


I can't help but think about a scene like that. :P

"If you think the Moderates deserve to go, if... if you think they are objectively worse, less interesting than GreenLeft, then vote to eliminate them. But if you're doing this because GreenLeft better represents your political positions, then Fab is right. This survivor is biased. You have a choice. Maybe the last real one you'll have here."

Wondering if someone knows where this (rearranged) quote comes from. ;D

1. I'm never wrong ;D.

2. Well, don't know this quotation.

3.  Unfortunately, Moderates are already out in a way. I can't waste my keep vote for them. I must stick to a party which has at least a tiny chance of going to the finale.

4. I'm a bit afraid by your "new" system... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: homelycooking on July 03, 2011, 07:29:50 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Edu on July 03, 2011, 08:38:28 PM
Keep SAP

Wonder what would happen in case of a tie between the Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) and the Sweden Moderates, which could have happened if Fab voted to keep the Moderates. I'm guessing the Moderates would go out, but it would be interesting to know :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2011, 04:27:49 AM
Hey Homely, why did you do that ? ??? DNA already had 2 votes which made it un-eliminable...

And what the hell am I supposed to do now ? Make sure my favorite party is qualified and eliminate the last right-wing party left, or give the moderates at least a try (since our lone right-winger didn't even bother doing) and risk contributing to the defeat of SAP ?

Oh, suck it.

Moderate Party

Whatever party loses the tie (M, SAP or Grüne) I'll be very disappointed. That would have been so much easier if Fab vote for the moderates... If anyone of Fab, Jarl or Homely wants to change his vote, I wouldn't mind.

BTW, Hans hasn't voted yet, and if he does the greens are probably safe...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: big bad fab on July 04, 2011, 05:31:41 AM
Lâchez-moi les gars ! ;D
(Leave me alone, guys !)

Everybody says I should have voted differently for 3 rounds !!!
Come on, I do what I can :P !

I voted for the Norwegian Labour Party, because no one voted for it before me...

I don't want to change my vote, because when it's done, it's done.
And even though I changed my vote, it'd be to keep SAP ;D, not the Moderates !

Hans will save the Grünen of course.
I don't know exactly how you will break the tie. SAP has received far more votes, but they don't have all the same value.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2011, 05:42:38 AM
Really, the party that deserved to go now is the SPÖ (nice enough, but by no way top-5 material). I can't feel good however if the top 5 is composed by 60% of social-democratic parties. And proving you wrong is, really, very important to me. :P So I almost certainly sacrify my favorite. I hope at least you realize the greatness of my abnegation.

So let me reiterate that if someone wants to change his vote, he's welcome. I'll close this as soon as I can, but resolving the 3-way tie should be pretty harsh...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Round 25
Post by: homelycooking on July 04, 2011, 08:54:34 AM
OK, I change my vote. Keep SPÖ.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2011, 02:33:50 PM
Swedish Social Democratic Party is out

AKA "Sveriges socialdemokratiska arbetareparti", SAP

()

Leader : Håkan Juholt
()

Last general election result (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2010)) : 30.7%, 112/349 seats

SAP : 1 (more votes in previous rounds)
M : 1
Grüne : 1
SPÖ : 2
D66 : 2
DNA : 3



()

- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_of_Working_People)
- Social Democrats (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark))
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Green League (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_League)
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Left Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Front_(France))
- Socialist Party (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%C3%89cologie)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Communist Party of Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece)
- Italy of Values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_of_Values)
- GreenLeft (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenLeft)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party)
- Swedish Social Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Labour Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK))

Qualified for the Final Top 5 :
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party)
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)

Phase III is now complete !
Now, time for the final top 5 tournament ! :D In order to determine the winner of the survivor, every party left will be confronted to the other four in a duel (so there will be 10 duels overall). You'll have a total amount of 50 votes, that you will cast as you want between a duel and another (between 1 and 9). A victory will earn a party 2 points, a defeat 0 points and a tie 1 point. I hope you will enjoy this conclusive phase. :)
As usual, give me a few days to organize everything. And as usual, if you have any comments I'd be glad to hear them. :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2011, 02:52:35 PM
Olof, please forgive me ! :'(

See what you made me do... >:( Well, of course it was my choice : listening to my heart or to my head. Maybe I choose my head too often, but that's how I am. I won't complain, I've done what I think is the best for the survivor, even if it mean sacrificing the best party ever...

I don't want to seem a quote-maniac, but...

"You should be mourning. I know I am."

Oh, and Fab. It's over, you were wrong. Now, you'd better do your best to try making the Moderates win. Waste all your points for them, otherwise I swear I'll vote like a left-wing hack in every survivor from now.



Anyways, thank you guys for the extremely funny rounds we've had. There were bitter fights, and that's what made the game so awesome. The final phase was extremely thrilling, and I think overall we got a very nice top 5. I'm sure the final rounds will be equally great. :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: Edu on July 04, 2011, 03:02:44 PM
Yep, it was a spicy survivor and it was more interesting and fun than if we had eliminated all the parties except the main ones and got a top 5 of Labour, Conservatives, CDU, PSOE and the SPD of Germany which would have sucked.

It's a good top 5 (except for the greens).
I guess i know have to root for the SPÖ. Though i wouldn't be too upset if D66 or the Moderates got the top spot.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2011, 03:33:05 PM
Well, most of the "obvious" parties you hated so much were good-but-not-so-great. You were right that they didn't deserve to be in the top 5, but they certainly belonged in the top 20 or 15. You couldn't honestly oust CDU before getting rid of VVD, nor oust the UK Labour before the Irish one. But in the end, I'm glad I could get along with you. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: big bad fab on July 04, 2011, 05:31:12 PM
I appreciate your gesture, Antonio, believe me ;).
You've cut your right arm !
(but you've also seen in this survivor that I'm not a rightist hack... :P)

Killing the SAP, well, it's almost as horrible as killing the SPD, the Labour, the Tories and the CDU ;D.

And I'm so happy you've opted for the tournament, for the last 5 ! :D
It was funny in my Chess survivor and my Commonwealth and Francophonie ones. And it takes longer... all the pleasure is here in survivors... :P

Don't worry, I'll support the Moderates for a very high position ;) (but you already know my favourite by default, now that the SPD, Labour and the Tories are out).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on July 05, 2011, 03:41:40 AM
I send my ranking to Antonio, if I can't vote he has the right to vote for me. It is terrible enough that parties like the Moderates or the SPOE are still here, but I don't want that they win ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase III) - Top 5 soon to begin
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 05, 2011, 05:22:11 AM
Yep, Hashemite also contacted me, which mean I'll cast 4 (!) votes overall in the final phase. ;) If anyone else is on holidays, please just contact me... though I don't want to cast the votes for everybody ! :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 06, 2011, 12:42:58 PM
Alright guys, time to begin ! :D

Let me briefly remember you the rules.
There will be 10 duels, opposing one party against another. In each of this duel, you can cast a certain number of votes in favor of the party you prefer, comprised between 1 and 9 and so that you will cast exactly 50 votes among the 10 duels.
When a party wins a duel (ie, it gets more votes than the other party), it is awarded 2 points and the other party gets none. If the duel results in a tie, the two parties will get one point each. After the 10 duels, the party with the most points will be the winner of the survivor.

Have fun ! :)


Top 5 Tournament

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ - Grüne
Duel 2 : D66 - DNA
Duel 3 : M - SPÖ
Duel 4 : Grüne - D66
Duel 5 : DNA - M
Duel 6 : SPÖ - D66
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 0 points
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 0 points
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 0 points
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 0 points
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 50
- Ben : 50
- Edu : 50
- Fab : 50
- Hans : 50
- Hashemite : 50
- Homelycooking : 50
- Jarl : 50
- Jon : 50
- Julio : 50
- Nhoj : 50



Duel 1 begins

()


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 06, 2011, 12:54:45 PM
Julio : 5 to SPÖ

Hans : 7 to Grüne

Hash : 7 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Nhoj on July 06, 2011, 05:05:16 PM
7 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: big bad fab on July 06, 2011, 05:43:15 PM
Funny drawing !
For once, I'll wait a bit, though it seems it's doomed for the SPÖ here.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: homelycooking on July 06, 2011, 10:04:15 PM
5 to SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: BenNebbich on July 07, 2011, 12:07:11 AM
9 SPÖ

'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne'!!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 07, 2011, 08:47:27 AM
3 Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: big bad fab on July 07, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
3 SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: JonBidinger on July 07, 2011, 10:46:31 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: big bad fab on July 07, 2011, 10:54:03 AM
:(
Vote well, Edu ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 07, 2011, 12:32:20 PM
Jarl and Edu left... Methinks it won't end up as I hoped... I thought Jon would have spent more votes. :P



Well, it's not really artistical, but I've done my best. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Edu on July 07, 2011, 06:55:46 PM
Problem is that i have no idea how Jarl will vote and i'm pretty sure Antonio doesn't like the SPÖ so i don't know what to do.

I'm also tired so I can't even calculate if what I'm going to do is smart or terribly stupid :( :P

Ah, what the hell... 9 for SPÖ


Damn you Green fanboys! :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 08, 2011, 04:13:52 AM
Where is Jarl ? ???


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: JonBidinger on July 08, 2011, 07:41:39 AM
I'm also tired so I can't even calculate if what I'm going to do is smart or terribly stupid :( :P

Definitely seems like the round for that...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 1
Post by: big bad fab on July 08, 2011, 09:38:06 AM
:'(

At least, you have lost more points, Green fanboys ! ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 08, 2011, 10:39:36 AM
Grüne victory !

Grüne : 35
SPÖ : 31

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Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 - DNA
Duel 3 : M - SPÖ
Duel 4 : Grüne - D66
Duel 5 : DNA - M
Duel 6 : SPÖ - D66
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 2 points
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 0 points
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 0 points
- Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 0 points
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 47
- Ben : 41
- Edu : 41
- Fab : 47
- Hans : 43
- Hashemite : 43
- Homelycooking : 45
- Jarl : 42
- Jon : 47
- Julio : 45
- Nhoj : 43



Duel 2 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 08, 2011, 10:59:34 AM
Julio : 4 for DNA

Hans : 2 for DNA

Hash : 7 for D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: Edu on July 08, 2011, 11:07:01 AM
Horrible start

1 for DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: Nhoj on July 08, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
5 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: big bad fab on July 08, 2011, 04:22:42 PM
7 DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: homelycooking on July 08, 2011, 10:30:03 PM
5 to D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: BenNebbich on July 09, 2011, 12:32:08 AM
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 09, 2011, 04:15:40 AM
7 to DNA

Jon and Jarl, you better vote the right way !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: JonBidinger on July 09, 2011, 06:07:39 AM
3 to DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 09, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
Why does always Jarl vote 3 days after everybody else ? >:(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 10, 2011, 07:37:45 AM
DNA victory !

DNA : 25
D66 : 18

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Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M - SPÖ
Duel 4 : Grüne - D66
Duel 5 : DNA - M
Duel 6 : SPÖ - D66
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 2 points
- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 2 points
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 0 points
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 0 points
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 40
- Ben : 40
- Edu : 40
- Fab : 40
- Hans : 41
- Hashemite : 36
- Homelycooking : 40
- Jarl : 41
- Jon : 44
- Julio : 41
- Nhoj : 38



Duel 3 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 10, 2011, 07:56:05 AM
BTW, Jarl has difficult internet access and he asked me to vote for him too. I know that makes 4 people voting that way, but at least their vote can be counted... :P

Julio : 7 to SPÖ

Hans : 2 to SPÖ

Hash : 3 to M

Jarl : 2 to M


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: homelycooking on July 10, 2011, 08:19:14 AM
5 to SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: BenNebbich on July 10, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
9 SPÖ

'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne!'


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Nhoj on July 10, 2011, 12:40:15 PM
4 m


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: JonBidinger on July 10, 2011, 05:31:48 PM
1 SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 11, 2011, 10:48:07 AM
I'm here!!! Thanks, antonio ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 11, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
Great ! :)

Why haven't Fab and Edu voted yet ? ??? Anyways, since Edu supports SPÖ, I guess it's over.

1 Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Edu on July 11, 2011, 04:16:09 PM
1 for SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: big bad fab on July 11, 2011, 04:20:30 PM
1 M

I was waiting to see if it was indeed doomed, but, then, I forgot to vote this morning, sorry :P.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 3
Post by: Hash on July 11, 2011, 05:52:42 PM
Uncle Hashpipe is a bit hungover, so he'll let Antonio cast his votes until the end still.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 12, 2011, 08:05:03 AM
SPÖ victory !

SPÖ : 25
M : 11

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne - D66
Duel 5 : DNA - M
Duel 6 : SPÖ - D66
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 2 points
- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 2 points
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 2 points
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 0 points
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 39
- Ben : 31
- Edu : 39
- Fab : 39
- Hans : 39
- Hashemite : 33
- Homelycooking : 35
- Jarl : 39
- Jon : 43
- Julio : 34
- Nhoj : 34



Duel 4 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 12, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
Hans : 9 Grüne

Hash : 7 D66

Jarl : 8 Grüne


It would be nice if people don't wait 3 days before voting, this time. >:(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: big bad fab on July 12, 2011, 08:52:42 AM
homely, Ben, Edu and (?) Antonio, help me kill Die Grünen !!!

(and it would make a fine tie !)

9 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: homelycooking on July 12, 2011, 09:03:13 AM
5 D66 (better this one than the Sweden Moderates)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 12, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
4 Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Nhoj on July 12, 2011, 05:16:32 PM
3 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: BenNebbich on July 13, 2011, 05:13:16 AM
5 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 13, 2011, 05:18:52 AM
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Edu on July 13, 2011, 07:27:09 AM
1 for D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 13, 2011, 08:53:07 AM
Where is Jon ?!!! >:(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: JonBidinger on July 13, 2011, 05:06:17 PM
Sorry, I was vacationing in the Bavarian Alps and thought I would have internet access. Turned out I didnt. Had a brilliant time though.

9 Grüne



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 13, 2011, 08:50:39 PM
Yeeees =)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 4
Post by: Edu on July 13, 2011, 09:24:46 PM

Unless I'm terribly wrong in my calculations, Grüne still loses :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 15, 2011, 06:34:37 AM
D66 victory !

D66 : 31
Grüne : 30

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Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA - M
Duel 6 : SPÖ - D66
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 2 points
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 2 points
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 2 points
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 2 points
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 38
- Ben : 26
- Edu : 38
- Fab : 30
- Hans : 30
- Hashemite : 26
- Homelycooking : 30
- Jarl : 31
- Jon : 34
- Julio : 30
- Nhoj : 31



Duel 5 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 15, 2011, 06:42:54 AM
Hans : 2 to DNA

Hash : 1 to M

Jarl : 2 to M


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: homelycooking on July 15, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
5 to DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 15, 2011, 09:36:34 AM
1 to DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: BenNebbich on July 15, 2011, 09:51:15 AM
1 M


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Nhoj on July 15, 2011, 11:53:39 AM
3 to M


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: big bad fab on July 15, 2011, 01:22:38 PM
I hope I'm not making a mistake, but Jon, Antonio and Edu should vote for DNA too:

1 DNA

though Edu may pull his famous lately stab in the back ;D.
Be careful, Antonio ! ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 16, 2011, 03:33:31 AM
Edu ? Jon ? ???


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Edu on July 16, 2011, 04:36:20 AM
1 for DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 16, 2011, 05:29:13 AM
Ok, well, 1 for DNA.

I hope Jon doesn't vote one day after everybody else as last time. That's starting to get really annoying and it penalizes people like Nhoj or Julio who vote early and have to wait.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 5
Post by: JonBidinger on July 16, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
1 for DNA, and sorry for my tardiness.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 16, 2011, 04:36:54 PM
DNA victory !

DNA : 12
M : 7

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ - D66
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 4 points
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 2 points
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 2 points
- Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 2 points
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 37
- Ben : 25
- Edu : 37
- Fab : 29
- Hans : 28
- Hashemite : 25
- Homelycooking : 25
- Jarl : 29
- Jon : 33
- Julio : 29
- Nhoj : 28



Duel 6 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 16, 2011, 05:05:33 PM
Hans : 3 to D66

Hash : 9 to D66

Jarl : 9 to D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 16, 2011, 06:41:52 PM
8 SPO


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: big bad fab on July 17, 2011, 07:44:01 AM
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: homelycooking on July 17, 2011, 08:15:29 AM
2 to SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: BenNebbich on July 17, 2011, 08:24:12 AM
Lets try it:

9 SPÖ

'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne...'


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 17, 2011, 09:20:05 AM
'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne...'

That's getting old. :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: BenNebbich on July 17, 2011, 09:28:50 AM
it is old.

as long as the spö is in the survivor, everybody is invited to sing the beautiful song 'Arbeiter von Wien'. ('Workers of Vienna')


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 17, 2011, 09:41:20 AM
it is old.

as long as the spö is in the survivor, everybody is invited to sing the beautiful song 'Arbeiter von Wien'. ('Workers of Vienna')

Don't know this one, but I love revolutionary songs in general. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Nhoj on July 17, 2011, 10:40:03 AM
6 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: JonBidinger on July 17, 2011, 12:10:56 PM
9 to SPÖ and I hope someone backs my play. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Edu on July 17, 2011, 12:29:57 PM
F**k

9 for the SPÖ

Antonio will probably kill the party though :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 17, 2011, 02:29:41 PM
Oh, suck it. I have so many points to waste. :P

9 for D66

And that gives us the first tie of the survivor ! :D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: big bad fab on July 17, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
Well, this is good for the DNA, I guess :).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 17, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
SPÖ-D66 tie !

SPÖ : 37
D66 : 37

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ 37 - D66 37
Duel 7 : M - Grüne
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 4 points
- 2nd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 3 points
- 3rd : Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 3 points
- 4th : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 2 points
- 5th : Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 28
- Ben : 16
- Edu : 28
- Fab : 28
- Hans : 25
- Hashemite : 16
- Homelycooking : 23
- Jarl : 20
- Jon : 24
- Julio : 21
- Nhoj : 22



Duel 7 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 17, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
Hans : 9 to Grüne

Hash : 1 to Grüne

Jarl : 5 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 17, 2011, 05:44:47 PM
4 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: homelycooking on July 17, 2011, 07:45:12 PM
5 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Edu on July 17, 2011, 09:04:39 PM
SPÖ in a tie when it should have won and now the Greens making a landslide.

Yep, you guys suck :P

1 for the Moderate Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: BenNebbich on July 17, 2011, 11:41:57 PM
M 1


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 18, 2011, 03:28:10 AM
1 to Grüne

Why do you guys don't invest a bit more points to make the Moderates win ? I know it's not very likely, but we had several unlikely outcomes in this survivor. ;) I hope at least Fab wil cast a strong vote...

Well, this is good for the DNA, I guess :).

Actually, the best for DNA would have been a SPÖ victory, IMO. ;) But I'm determinated to ensure SPÖ isn't in the top 3.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: big bad fab on July 18, 2011, 03:40:06 AM
You want me to cast a strong vote when absolutely nobody wants the Moderates to win ?
And with only Jon and Nhoj to vote ?

Don't worry, I'll cast a BIG vote in the last round ;D.

I'll vote tonight ;).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Edu on July 18, 2011, 03:48:17 AM
I would prefer the moderates to the Greens, heck, after the SPÖ it's my second choice.
But the truth is that there are too many anti-SPÖ people and Green backers for my plan to have much success ;D

I'll still try to get the SPÖ to win more points, but i guess i'll have to accept either the Labour party or D66 winning this thing, which would be a bore, but what can i do? :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: JonBidinger on July 18, 2011, 06:24:55 AM
1 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: big bad fab on July 18, 2011, 04:17:33 PM
1 M


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 19, 2011, 05:02:24 AM
Where is Nhoj ? He always used to vote early...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 7
Post by: Nhoj on July 19, 2011, 07:34:07 AM
I was stuck in Iowa alot of yesterday and before that I was busy doing things on Sunday.
2 M


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 19, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
Grüne victory !

Grüne : 26
M : 5

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ 37 - D66 37
Duel 7 : M 5 - Grüne 26
Duel 8 : DNA-SPÖ
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 4 points
- 2nd : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 4 points
- 3rd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 3 points
- 4th : Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 3 points
- 5th : Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 27 (must cast 9 points in each round)
- Ben : 15
- Edu : 27 (must cast 9 points in each round)
- Fab : 27 (must cast 9 points in each round)
- Hans : 16
- Hashemite : 15
- Homelycooking : 18
- Jarl : 15
- Jon : 23 (must cast at least 5 points next round)
- Julio : 17
- Nhoj : 20 (must cast at least 2 points next round)



Duel 8 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: BenNebbich on July 19, 2011, 02:02:42 PM
SPÖ  9

'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne'


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: big bad fab on July 19, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
9 DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: Nhoj on July 19, 2011, 05:40:12 PM
3 DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 19, 2011, 05:55:23 PM
Hans : 2 to DNA

Hash : 7 to DNA

Jarl : 5 to DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 19, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
Sorry for not casting the ballots immediately, I went out just after closing the round. ;)

9 to DNA (rather pointless it seems, but I've so many votes to waste...)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: JonBidinger on July 19, 2011, 06:34:12 PM
9 SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: Edu on July 19, 2011, 07:38:47 PM
Bah...

9 for the SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 19, 2011, 08:57:51 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 8
Post by: homelycooking on July 19, 2011, 09:58:25 PM
4 to DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 20, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
DNA victory !

DNA : 39
SPÖ : 36

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ 37 - D66 37
Duel 7 : M 5 - Grüne 26
Duel 8 : DNA 39 - SPÖ 36
Duel 9 : D66 - M
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 6 points
- 2nd : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 4 points
- 3rd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 3 points
- 4th : Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 3 points
- 5th : Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 0 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 18 (must cast 9 points in each round)
- Ben : 6
- Edu : 18 (must cast 9 points in each round)
- Fab : 18 (must cast 9 points in each round)
- Hans : 14 (must cast at least 5 points next round)
- Hashemite : 8
- Homelycooking : 14 (must cast at least 5 points next round)
- Jarl : 10
- Jon : 14 (must cast at least 5 points next round)
- Julio : 8
- Nhoj : 17 (must cast at least 8 points next round)



Duel 9 begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: homelycooking on July 20, 2011, 09:52:02 AM
9 to D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: JonBidinger on July 20, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
5 M

just for fun


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 20, 2011, 10:46:02 AM
Hans : 7 to D66

Hash : 7 to D66

Jarl : 2 to D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: BenNebbich on July 20, 2011, 10:48:43 AM
1 D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 20, 2011, 11:04:29 AM
So, this is the next to last duel, and incidentally the only right-wing matchup (Fab would disargree ;D). I really hope the Moderates will win, because it would be humiliating and unfair to let them with 4 defeats... :( I'm not very hopeful though.

But since I've so many votes...

9 Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: big bad fab on July 20, 2011, 12:42:22 PM
9 M

(D66 are only good when they beat Die Grünen or tie SPÖ ;D)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: Edu on July 20, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
9 for the Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: Nhoj on July 20, 2011, 04:00:56 PM
Why not
9 for the Moderates


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 9
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 20, 2011, 07:11:13 PM
1 M (useless vote)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 21, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
M victory !

M : 42
D66 : 26

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ 37 - D66 37
Duel 7 : M 5 - Grüne 26
Duel 8 : DNA 39 - SPÖ 36
Duel 9 : D66 26 - M 42
Duel 10 : Grüne - DNA

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 6 points
- 2nd : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 4 points
- 3rd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 3 points
- 4th : Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 3 points
- 5th : Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 2 points

Votes left to cast :

- Antonio : 9
- Ben : 5
- Edu : 9
- Fab : 9
- Hans : 7
- Hashemite : 1
- Homelycooking : 5
- Jarl : 8
- Jon : 9
- Julio : 7
- Nhoj : 8



Duel 10 (the final battle !) begins

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 21, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Hans : 7 to Grüne

Hash : 1 to DNA

Jarl : 8 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Nhoj on July 21, 2011, 01:27:15 PM
8 to Bündnis 90/Die Grünen


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 21, 2011, 01:29:27 PM
So, people, here is the final round ! :) It's a nice coincidence that the final round opposes DNA and Greens, the two frontrunners (no, it wasn't intended). ;) Anyways, the winner of this round will most likely be the winner of the survivor : I forgot to specify, but the tiebreaking criterion in the case of a tie is the winner of the duel opposing the two parties, counted as if each person had one vote. So, barring a surprise, this round will be decisive ! :D

Choose wisely, people, and let's conclude this long contest.

9 to Det Norske Arbeiderparti !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: JonBidinger on July 21, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
9 to Grüne


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 21, 2011, 02:54:28 PM
OMG ! Edu, Fab, Ben, Julio, Homely, help !!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Edu on July 21, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
SPO was the clear winner here, but it didn't happen for some reason. The Moderates obviously didn't have a chance. I could have even lived with the D66 winning which would have been sort of boring too, but an acceptable pain.

But if there is something worse than the disastrous Greens winning this then that is the Norwegian "like watching paint dry" Labour party.
But you guys hilariously made those 2 the finalists of the survivor :P

It was a fun and epic survivor though and i want to thank Antonio for creating it and managing it ;) :D
It's a pity the worst ones of the final 5 are the ones in the deciding match. It's a terrible choice but right now I prefer these over the boring labour (The Labour party also reached the Top 5 in the socialist international parties survivor where it had no business there, eliminating the Socialist party of Argentina which finished 6th, so I also have a feud with them because of that ;D) So in the end this would be a cointoss, but the Labour Party is just a little bit more annoying for me.



9 for Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: big bad fab on July 21, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
WOT ?!? You're an awful traitor, Edu :P ...

9 DNA

Come on, vote for History, vote for social-democracy, not for lil' young politicians trying to mimic "grand old parties"...

Oh, but, wait, DNA can't win, now...

:(

And then, as it was obvious from the beginning, a youngish, post-modern, "in" party is winning...
I really hoped, in this final stage, that we'd favour a real political party...
:(
I'm very sad.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 21, 2011, 04:05:07 PM
Edu. I. Hate. You.

Forever.

If I discover I have some cousin living in Argentina, who is involved in some kind of typically Italian activities, I'll ask him to do a litlle job for me. Be careful when you cross the road...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Edu on July 21, 2011, 04:32:19 PM
Lol, I expected the responses :P
But when the SPÖ tied the D66 and the DNA killed it then I got pissed, didn't really care that much about this final.

It's worth noting that the vote was 32-10 in favor of the greens before I voted. even if Fab and me voted 9 for the DNA and then Ben and HC voted 5 each for the DNA the vote would be 38-32 in favor of the DNA and then Julio would have given 7 to the greens and the greens still win 39-38 and i'm not even sure Ben would have voted for the DNA.

And Antonio, I could be saying the same thing as you but with a cousin in Italy considering you helped the greens to win against the SPÖ in the first round and then gave 9 points to make them tie against D66 ;D

Of course then there was the pile on againt the SPÖ in favor of the DNA :P


Anyway, don't we have some kind of tiebreaking round? I mean, both parties will have 6 points and I'm not so sure if I would vote for the Greens again in a tiebreak.

Come on, vote for History...
I really hoped, in this final stage, that we'd favour a real political party...

That was the SPÖ :P Pity people voted against it.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: big bad fab on July 21, 2011, 05:14:54 PM

Anyway, don't we have some kind of tiebreaking round? I mean, both parties will have 6 points and I'm not so sure if I would vote for the Greens again in a tiebreak.


Yay, this is very "Italian" in a way ;D.

(Antonio has already explained his awful rule for tiebreaking, Edu... the winner of this round will also win the tie... :P
Oh, Antonio, if you wish, you can delete your post and, as moderator here, I'll certify that you haven't posted this message. Ever. ;))



Yeah, maybe I should have picked SPÖ rather than DNA... but DNA was to compensate for Labour, which I knew wouldn't have any chance to win.
DNA was my favourite nr.1 from the beginning, as Antonio can testify when I PMed him my list when I was on holiday and he voted for me.

Of course, when I see the results, I can guess SPÖ had a decent shot... :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Edu on July 21, 2011, 05:32:59 PM
Aha, I just read the first part of his post where he says "Anyways, the winner of this round will most likely be the winner of the survivor" and I assumed that he meant that if Grune won the round then they would probably win an extra round also.
Of course i missed the second part of his post :P

On the other hand, doesn't that mean that DNA could still win? as i understand it, if the Greens win then Antonio will count each person that voted as a single point and since we are 11 that should give us a winner.

Grune is currently winning 5-3, which means that if Julio, HC and Ben all vote for the DNA then althought it will lose the round, the individual votes would be 6-5 in favor of the DNA.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: big bad fab on July 21, 2011, 05:40:55 PM
OMG, you're right, I've miscounted (again) !

Julio, you're a real leftist, you can't vote for a greenish movement.

Ben, you've always tried to beat Die Grünen in this survivor; here, you've got another good and interesting moderate leftist solution to beat Die Grünen.

homely, I've voted for you in the Atlasian Senate, betraying my party for the first time ever (yes !): you owe me a vote for the DNA ;D

Well....
What else can I do ? ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: JonBidinger on July 21, 2011, 06:04:36 PM
Absolutely entertaining! I hope there is another political party survivor started once this one ends, Eastern European parties anyone? ;)

And I would like to thank Antonio for starting and running this survivor. Excellent job!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Edu on July 21, 2011, 06:12:07 PM
Absolutely entertaining! I hope there is another political party survivor started once this one ends, Eastern European parties anyone? ;)

And I would like to thank Antonio for starting and running this survivor. Excellent job!

I fully agree.
This survivor has been a rollercoaster and a lot of fun with intense battles and interesting results :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Edu on July 21, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
OMG, you're right, I've miscounted (again) !
What else can I do ? ;D

You see? It's not all bad for you, unlike me with the SPÖ humiliated :(

I'm going to try an alternate history exercise.

This is what SHOULD have happened if people were sane ;D :P


- SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35 (well, yeah, this could have been different but we'll let it stand)
- D66 18 - DNA 25 (Ok result, it stays the same)
- M 11 - SPÖ 25 (Great!, Stays the same)
- Grüne 30 - D66 31 (Fine, we keep it)
- DNA 12 - M 7 (A lackluster round but the result was decent i guess, so it stays)

So far, things are pretty much the same, maybe some of the results could have been different but I'm fine with them staying like that.

The rankings so far are:
DNA = 4 points
SPÖ = 2 points
Grüne = 2 points
D66 = 2 points
Moderates = 0


Now here is where the story changes, in real life the Austrians tied with D66 (Thanks Antonio ;D) and we know what happened afterwards.

What should have happened is the SPÖ winning giving them 4 points total

Then Grüne beats the Moderates, i don't see that result changing in any way.

So after Duel 7 the rankings would have been like this:
DNA = 4 points
SPÖ = 4 points
Grüne = 4 points
D66 = 2 points
Moderates = 0


Now we also have here another point of divergence because we have the terribly important DNA-SPÖ match.
If the DNA wins then looking at the following results my prediction by logic would be that at the end of 9 duels DNA would have 6 points and the Greens would have 4, which means exactly the same thing that happened in real life. That's no good.

What SHOULD have happened here is the SPÖ beating the DNA

Then obviously the match between the Moderates and the D66 wouldn't matter because they would both be out in the cold.

So after 9 duels the rankings would have been this:
SPÖ = 6 points
DNA = 4 points
Grüne = 4 points.

So the SPÖ would have already qualified for the final and the match between the DNA and Grüne would define the other finalist.

In this instance I would have definitely supported the DNA to beat the Greens and with some luck the DNA would also reach 6 points.

I guess that in that case the tiebreak would have been, everybody has 1 vote and we decide between the SPÖ and the DNA
This final match would have been interesting because I have no idea what would happen. And best of all, for the purists, it would have been a match between 2 "real" parties. So, everyone wins.



This is what i wished would have happened, but you guys were too busy trying to make the DNA the survivor that you completely ignored who could be the other finalist, and so we get this crap :P

And yeah, I have too much time in my hands considering I'm on holidays right now ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 21, 2011, 08:29:20 PM
right now, I don't know what'll vote. Let me vote tomorrow, antonio. I have to think about this. I'm a socialdemocrat, not a greenie. However, I don't want to have a scandinavian winning this... Let me think about it ;) Yesterday I was sure I would vote Green


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: homelycooking on July 21, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
5 to DNA! DNA for survivor!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: BenNebbich on July 22, 2011, 02:06:39 AM
5 SPÖ


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 22, 2011, 06:54:06 AM
Wow...

I expected a relatively thrilling final round, but was far from expecting such a mess. :P From a neutral standpoint, that's exactly the kind of ending we needed. :)


Now, it all lies to the choices of 3 people. ;) Edu, Ben and Julio, I know you were all supporters of the SPÖ and the final results made you quite sad. I will not refrain from my responsibility in SPÖ's failure (it was, IMO, the stain of the top 5 :P), but it is undeniable that a clear majority of the participants didn't want it to be in the top 2... Now, don't be sore losers ! :( You've got a choice, you are the kingmakers of this survivor. Please do the right choice.


And Antonio, I could be saying the same thing as you but with a cousin in Italy considering you helped the greens to win against the SPÖ in the first round and then gave 9 points to make them tie against D66 ;D

Oh, sure. But you forgot that :
1. There are far more Italians in Argentina than Argentinians in Italy.
2. We are just better for this kind of stuff. I mean, at least if you were Mexican or Colombian, you could barely compete... ;D

Seriously though... You weren't aware of the tiebreaking rules when you voted, and thus you have a fair reason to change your vote. I encourage you to do so. Even if you find DNA boring, I'm sure you don't want the greens to win this survivor.


Julio, listen to Fab and choose a successful social-democratic government party ! You may not like scandidnavian parties in general, but the social-democrat ones have a hell of a history, successfully implemented left-wing policies and experienced an unseen electoral success. I'm sure that's the best choice you can do.


Ben, we pissed you of with SPÖ's choice, but I'm not closing this round until I have 11 valid votes. From your previous votes, I gather that you don't want the greens to win, and you have the occasion to stop them.


However this survivor ends, I want to thank you for your participation. You are the ones who made the survivor so passionating, who gave us so many tough battles and upsetting results. Whoever wins, it will be nice enough. Okay, I will be very disappointed if DNA doesn't win because it deserves it (and because I already sacrified my initial favorite :(). But contrary to Fab, I don't loathe the german greens and they will be a good runner-up. Let's see how this ends up ! :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 22, 2011, 08:26:22 AM
Grüne is the best Green Party in Europe. And I would like to see them in the 2nd place, after SPÖ.
I don't think they deserve to win this. they have no history. They have supported the CDU in the past and will do it again in the future... but they are a modern movement which manages to get young people interested in politics. They deserved to be 2nd, but not 1st.

7 to DNA. DNA for survivor!

DNA is a Scandinavian party, exactly the kind of party I wouldn't support for Survivor. But they have managed to be one of the most succesful parties in europe's history. and I like Jens Stoltenberg.



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: JonBidinger on July 22, 2011, 12:24:19 PM
Considering recent events, I would like to change my vote to the Arbeiderpartiet in solidarity.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 22, 2011, 01:04:39 PM
Considering recent events, I would like to change my vote to the Arbeiderpartiet in solidarity.

Why are you doing that ? You're entitled to have an opinion different of those of the survivor manager. ;)

Anyways, I want Ben to cast an actual vote before closing the round...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: JonBidinger on July 22, 2011, 01:29:49 PM
Considering recent events, I would like to change my vote to the Arbeiderpartiet in solidarity.

Why are you doing that ? You're entitled to have an opinion different of those of the survivor manager. ;)

I was actually thinking more the bombing in Oslo and the shooting at the DNA youth camp. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: BenNebbich on July 22, 2011, 02:49:52 PM
...i have already casted a vote.

(--> 5 SPÖ)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 22, 2011, 04:40:59 PM
Considering recent events, I would like to change my vote to the Arbeiderpartiet in solidarity.

Why are you doing that ? You're entitled to have an opinion different of those of the survivor manager. ;)

I was actually thinking more the bombing in Oslo and the shooting at the DNA youth camp. ;)

Oh yeah... Didn't get the allusion, but you're 100% right.


And Ben, I want you to take a choice. Come on, you owe me this. Don't be a sore loser. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: BenNebbich on July 23, 2011, 03:50:42 AM
To be honest i'm not really sure, what i'm supposed to do.

I assume i'm asked to change my vote to DNA, to prevent a Grüne victory.

If so, I do so: I change my vote to: 5 DNA


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 23, 2011, 05:02:36 AM
You can vote for DNA, or Grüne. That's your choice.


BTW, don't be surprised if I don't close this round in the next 24 hours. I'm not pulling a LibertasTM, it's just that I'm traveling and won't have enough time to update all the stuff before tomorrow.

In the meantime, I have to say I still don't know who wins in this situation. I assume DNA wins thanks to Jon changing his vote and Julio and Ben's vote, but I'm not counting yet to keep the fun. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: JonBidinger on July 23, 2011, 05:53:33 AM
You can vote for DNA, or Grüne. That's your choice.


BTW, don't be surprised if I don't close this round in the next 24 hours. I'm not pulling a LibertasTM, it's just that I'm traveling and won't have enough time to update all the stuff before tomorrow.

In the meantime, I have to say I still don't know who wins in this situation. I assume DNA wins thanks to Jon changing his vote and Julio and Ben's vote, but I'm not counting yet to keep the fun. ;)

Are we actually allowed to change our votes? I didnt know we actually could. :) Count it however you like ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Top 5 tournament) - Duel 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 23, 2011, 06:27:44 PM
You can vote for DNA, or Grüne. That's your choice.


BTW, don't be surprised if I don't close this round in the next 24 hours. I'm not pulling a LibertasTM, it's just that I'm traveling and won't have enough time to update all the stuff before tomorrow.

In the meantime, I have to say I still don't know who wins in this situation. I assume DNA wins thanks to Jon changing his vote and Julio and Ben's vote, but I'm not counting yet to keep the fun. ;)

Are we actually allowed to change our votes? I didnt know we actually could. :) Count it however you like ;)

Note I never expressly forbade it. ;) I'm not a fan of tough and exception-less rules : I think I'd tend to judge vote changes on a case-by-case basis. If you change it for purely tactical reasons, then I'd probably disregard the change and keep the original vote (it never happened, so fine). If however you have a valid reason or have genuinely changed your mind, I don't see any reason to ban it. That's what I honestly think, I hope you guys understand my viewpoint.

Anyways Jon, I want to say you kudos for sacrificing your favorite for solidarity's sake. That's something very noble to you.


Final results tomorrow ! Now I'm gonna sleep. :P


Title: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 25, 2011, 10:13:43 AM
DNA victory !

DNA : 45
Grüne : 32

()

Duels

Duel 1 : SPÖ 31 - Grüne 35
Duel 2 : D66 18 - DNA 25
Duel 3 : M 11 - SPÖ 25
Duel 4 : Grüne 30 - D66 31
Duel 5 : DNA 12 - M 7
Duel 6 : SPÖ 37 - D66 37
Duel 7 : M 5 - Grüne 26
Duel 8 : DNA 39 - SPÖ 36
Duel 9 : D66 26 - M 42
Duel 10 : Grüne 32 - DNA 45

Party ranking

- 1st : Norwegian Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Labour_Party) : 8 points
- 2nd : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_%2790/The_Greens) : 4 points
- 3rd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) : 3 points
- 4th : Social Democratic Party of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria) : 3 points
- 5th : Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) : 2 points


Title: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 25, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
So, here is our top 5 ! :D


5th : Moderate Party (Sweden)

AKA "Moderata samlingspartiet"

()

Founded : 1904 (as the General Electoral League)

Political Position : Mainstream Right

Leader : Fredrik Reinfeldt (Prime Minister of Sweden)
()

Election results since World War II :
()

Swedish general election, 2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2010)
()

Governments :
- 1976-1978 : Junior participation
- 1979-1981 : Junior participation
- 1991-1994 : Carl Bildt government
- 2006-... : Frederik Reinfeldt government



4th : Social Democratic Party of Austria

AKA "Sozialdemokratische Partei Österreichs"

()

Founded : 1888 (as the Social Democratic Workers' Party of Austria)

Political Position : Mainstream Left

Leader : Werner Faymann (Chancellor of Austria)
()

Election results since World War II :
()

Austrian legislative election, 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_legislative_election,_2008)
()

Governments :
- 1945 : Karl Renner government
- 1945-1966 : Junior participation
- 1970-1983 : Bruno Kreisky government
- 1983-1986 : Fred Sinowatz government
- 1986-1997 : Franz Vranitzky government
- 1997-2000 : Viktor Klima govenrment
- 2007-2008 : Alfred Gusenbauer government
- 2008-... : Werner Faymann government



3rd : Democrats 66 (Netherlands)

AKA "Democraten 66"

()

Founded : 1966

Political Position : Centrist/Liberal

Leader : Alexander Pechtold
()

Election results since foundation :
()

Dutch general election, 2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_2010)
()

Governments :
- 1973-1977 : Junior participation
- 1981-1982 : Junior participation
- 1994-2002 : Junior participation
- 2003-2006 : Junior participation



2nd : Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany)

AKA "Bündnis 90/Die Grünen"

()

Founded : 1980

Political Position : Ecologist

Leaders : Claudia Roth and Cem Özdemir
()
()

Election results since foundation :
()

German federal election, 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_2009)
()

Governments :
- 1998-2005 : Junior participation


Title: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 25, 2011, 10:25:43 AM
Winner :
Norwegian Labour Party !

AKA "Arbeiderpartiet"

()

Founded : 1887

Political Position : Mainstream Left

Leader : Jens Stoltenberg (Prime Minister of Norway)
()

Election results since World War II :
()

Norwegian parliamentary election, 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_parliamentary_election,_2009)
()

Governments :
- 1945-1951 : Einar Gerhardsen government
- 1951-1955 : Oscar Torp government
- 1951-1963 : Einar Gerhardsen government
- 1963-1965 : Einar Gerhardsen government
- 1971-1972 : Trygve Bratteli government
- 1973-1976 : Trygve Bratteli government
- 1976-1981 : Odvar Nordli government
- 1981 : Gro Harlem Brundtland government
- 1986-1989 : Gro Harlem Brundtland government
- 1990-1996 : Gro Harlem Brundtland government
- 1996-1997 : Thorbjørn Jagland government
- 2000-2001 : Jens Stoltenberg government
- 2005-... : Jens Stoltenberg government


And also...


One of the most successful Social-Democratic parties in Europe...

()
Results by county in the 2009 election


An old-established political force...

()
Christopher Hornsrud, first Labour Prime Minister (january-february 1928)


A strong organization...

()
Logo of the Workers' Youth League (AUF)

()
Labour campaign booth for 2007 local elections


And finally, let's never forget the horror of what happened on 22 July, 2011.

()

In the words of Al :
Quote
Internet solidarity is a pale imitation of the real thing, but is better than nothing.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: homelycooking on July 25, 2011, 11:12:18 AM
Fantastic survivor, Antonio - elegant, inventive, contentious and thought provoking. One of the best (if not the best) I've ever had the honor of participating in.

Oh, and good result, too. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 25, 2011, 11:34:18 AM
I can say this is the best Survivor I've seen since I'm here ;= Congratulations, Antonio!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: big bad fab on July 25, 2011, 04:47:36 PM
It was very hard for "grand oldies" to survive, but, at last, one of them prevails and that's what is important.
Of course, I'm a bit sad that no big party from the right was competitive, but that's not really a surprise ;D.

Congrats, Antonio, it was very entertaining and pleasant.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Edu on July 25, 2011, 07:47:02 PM
Well, partial objectives were met. No big tiresome party won (and by big i mean one that is internationally well known, not the Labour party of Norway, although maybe that changed a few days ago). Also no green party won.
I would have preferred a not so boring party winning but what can i do? I tried :P

Excellent survivor, one of the most fun in the forum :D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 25, 2011, 09:05:39 PM
I think the NLP deserved to be the survivor, after all. They haven't lost an election since 1940. and solidarity is with them.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 26, 2011, 05:39:13 AM
Thank you guys for your kind words ! :) I'm really happy to see you enjoyed this survivor. I've had myself a very good time managing it, and I must thank you for that. With your differing points of views, your conflicting choices, your tactic skills, you are the ones who made the survivor thrilling, fun, unexpected and passionating. We avoided easy hacery and managed to have a balanced survivor from the beginning to the end. A lot of people saw their favorites losing, or parties they hated surviving far too much, but at some point we could all get along when it was about ensuring this survivor would remain fun for everyone. So, thank you guys. :)

The last round has been anything but disappointing. ;) I expected DNA to win easily, but once Edu voted everyhting changed and we thought a Grüne victory would be inevitable ! And finally, Julio and Jon both made a choice we didn't expect (for the record, even if Jon's change hadn't been counted, DNA would still have won the tiebreak 6-5). That's a quite unbelievable coincidence that this final round happened just at the time of the Utoya tragedy, but in some way that makes DNA's victory even more deserved... That's a great survivor IMO, a scandinavian party with a formidable history, a government party which has exerted a considerable influence in its country's society. It's a role model for a lot of Social-democrats, even though, as the graph shows, it has significantly declined since the 1970s.

So, it's over, guys. This survivor has passionated us for almost 4 months. It's certainly the biggest one I've ever managed, and I'm extremely proud to see it was a success. That implied a lot of work, but this work has been worth it. :) I'll probably start other survivors in the future, though probably not as big as this one.

See you, people ! :D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: BenNebbich on July 26, 2011, 10:31:25 AM
This was a tasty survivor!

Congratulations.

I'm personally delighted, that two of my favourites (SPÖ & D66) made it to the finals.

On the other hand, the tories went to early.

So the last time:

'So flieg du flammende, du rote Fahne....'


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: JonBidinger on July 26, 2011, 01:45:23 PM
Well I for one can't wait for the next awesome political party survivor!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 27, 2011, 02:15:38 PM
Before ending this, a few statistics, just for fun. :) Bold denotes presence in phase III, glow presence in the top 5, small characters elimination by phase 1.


Top 5 parties by group :

Group 1 (far-left) :
- 1 : KKE
- 2 : AKEL
- 3 : Front de Gauche

- 4 : Socialist Left Party (NW)
- 5 : Sinn Fein

Group 2 (mainstream left) :
- 1 : Norwegian Labour
- 2 : SPÖ
- 3 : Swedish SDP
- 4 : PSOE
- 5 : Labour UK
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Group 3 (ecologist/other) :
- 1 : German Greens
- 2 : GreenLeft
- 3 : IdV
- 4 : EE-LV
- 5 : Green League
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Group 4 (liberal/centrist) :
- 1 : Democrats 66
- 2 : Centre Party (SW)
- 3 : Venstre (NW)
- 4 : Centre Party (FI)
- 5 : Centre Party (NW)
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Group 5 (mainstream right) :
- 1 : Swedish Moderates
- 2 : CDU/CSU
- 3 : Hoyre
- 4 : Kok
- 5 : Venstre (DK)
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Group 6 (far-right) :
- 1 : Progress Party
- 2 : PVV
- 3 : Sweden Democrats
- 4 : LAOS
- 5 : FN

Group A (left) :
- 1 : Norwegian Labour
- 2 : German Greens
- 3 : SPÖ
- 4 : Swedish SDP
- 5 : GreenLeft

Group B (right) :
- 1 : Democrats 66
- 2 : Swedish Moderates
- 3 : CDU/CSU
- 4 : Centre Party (SW)
- 5 : Hoyre


Top party by country :
- Austria : SPÖ
- Belgium : NVA
- Cyprus : AKEL
- Denmark : Social Democrats
- Finland : Kok
- France : EE-LV
- Germany : Greens
- Greece : KKE
- Iceland : Social Democratic Alliance
- Ireland : Labour
- Italy : IdV
- Luxembourg : Democratic Party/ADR
- Malta : Nationalist Party
- Netherlands : Democrats 66
- Norway : Labour
- Portugal : Socialist Party
- Spain : PSOE
- Sweden : Moderate Party
- Switzerland : Green Party
- UK : Labour


Countries whose parties where all eliminated by phase I : Belgium, Luxembourg, Malta
//              //        //         //     //         //     by phase II : Iceland, Ireland, Portugal, Switzerland


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 27, 2011, 03:26:10 PM
Progress Party (Norway) would have been eliminated before if the tragedy of Utoya had happened before. We should have made an anti-survivor to see what party does the people hate more.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 28, 2011, 03:35:58 PM
Progress Party (Norway) would have been eliminated before if the tragedy of Utoya had happened before. We should have made an anti-survivor to see what party does the people hate more.

That's somewhat ironic, yeah. But to be honest, the Progress Party is not that awful if you compare it to the rest of the group. FN, LAOS, SVP, Lega Nord all make the Scandinavian far-right parties look like kids...


A little graph to conclude ! :) Here is the evolution of the survivor's composition by group (until the top 5) :

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Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !
Post by: Niemeyerite on July 28, 2011, 06:11:48 PM
that graph is really interesting. we're, generally speaking, people who hate fascism and who tend to be centre-left, but like some centrist parties ;)