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Title: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: John Dibble on April 12, 2011, 10:43:48 AM
Anyone else looking forward to this HBO series that starts this Sunday? I haven't read the books, but have ordered them after hearing my coworkers recommendations and watching a few minutes of the show. (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2011/4/3/exclusive-sneak-preview-watch-the-first-few-scenes-of-game-o.html)


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on April 12, 2011, 11:36:37 AM
I AM SO FREAKING EXCITED

I've been a devoted fan of A Song of Ice and Fire since for about 5 years now, and the fact that they're even making this series(!) and that it's clearly going to be absolutely wonderful(!!!) makes me ;D

If ASoIaF is the kind of series for you—and there's definitely people for which that is not the case—you should really enjoy it.  George R. R. Martin is a fantastic writer.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on April 12, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
Yep, I'm looking forward to it. The books are brilliant, Storm of Swords might actually have been the best books I've ever read. I like the complex characters and their grey morality.

The even better news than the TV-series though, Dance of Dragons is supousedly coming out sometime this summer.

Winter is coming ;D


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Silent Hunter on April 13, 2011, 04:55:30 AM
This is airing the day after on Sky Atlantic. Yes, it's on my DVR.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: patrick1 on May 23, 2011, 05:08:07 PM
Bump.  Anyone watching?  It took me a bit to get into the show and understand who they heck all of the characters were, but I'm locked in now.  I downloaded all of the episodes this week and watched like 3 in a row yesterday. Some very solid acting- Peter Dinklage in particular. The kid who plays the prince is really good too because I feel like strangling him through the screen.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 23, 2011, 06:04:38 PM
Yeah, it takes a while to get into it, but by the fourth episode or so I was pretty hooked. The last two in particular have been fantastic, and last night's ending was ridiculous (in a good way). I like that most of the characters are pretty fleshed out as well; in most fantasy stories a lot of these guys would be one note stereotypes, but in this one they're pretty multi-dimensional.

Peter Dinklage better get an Emmy.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: dead0man on May 23, 2011, 06:07:27 PM
Yeah, I have been very impressed with the show.  And yes, all the characters were confusing as hell at first.  I still get confused sometimes.  

That "golden crown" was awesome.

..and I concur about Peter Dinklage.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on May 23, 2011, 06:49:00 PM
Bump.  Anyone watching?  It took me a bit to get into the show and understand who they heck all of the characters were, but I'm locked in now.  I downloaded all of the episodes this week and watched like 3 in a row yesterday. Some very solid acting- Peter Dinklage in particular. The kid who plays the prince is really good too because I feel like strangling him through the screen.

I can say as a fanboy of the books that the child actress who plays Arya is so perfect omgz.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: MasterJedi on May 23, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
I'd like to start reading the series and watching this, but I refuse until the lazy, fat turd actually decides to finish.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Verily on May 24, 2011, 07:41:17 PM
I love it! I've been a huge fan of the books and was worried that the show would disappoint--far from it! Those of you who haven't read the books have to share some of your predictions for the back half of the season. It'll be entertaining.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on May 24, 2011, 11:32:15 PM
I love it! I've been a huge fan of the books and was worried that the show would disappoint--far from it! Those of you who haven't read the books have to share some of your predictions for the back half of the season. It'll be entertaining.

Oh, please do!


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on May 28, 2011, 07:03:00 PM
I was just on IMDB and somebody had posted this in the discussion forum.

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Don't get me wrong, love this show but why does it feel like everything is going down hill for everyone I like?
With all the spoilers on here it seems like nothing is going to get any better for any of the Starks on this show. Is it the end for them, f*k knows?

I do hope it starts getting less depressing, I want to see more of the wolves, they always put a smile on my

I lol'd. Oh if ye only knew.

EDIT: And I've enjoyed the series so far. Very true to the source material on most things. And I agree with ilikeverin, Arya is perfect.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: bgwah on May 29, 2011, 04:47:52 AM
I love it! I've been a huge fan of the books and was worried that the show would disappoint--far from it! Those of you who haven't read the books have to share some of your predictions for the back half of the season. It'll be entertaining.

I didn't find the premise of the show intriguing, but it's premium cable so I figured it was worth a try, and I don't regret it. I was hooked after the first episode!

Predictions? Well I figured out the crown prince wasn't actually the King's kid pretty early on, but I thought that was kind of obvious given the twincest we saw in the first episode. And of course they basically said so at the end of the last episode.

Other things I've wondered, though:
-Was the previous King's hand who was assassinated looking for the real heir to the throne by searching for the King's bastard children? Is that metal shop fellow the real crown prince? ha.
-Did the Lanisters kill the King's first wife (and Ed's sister)
-Is Snow not actually Ed's son? Perhaps its his brother's son, who wasn't supposed to have kids


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on May 29, 2011, 05:28:34 AM
I love it! I've been a huge fan of the books and was worried that the show would disappoint--far from it! Those of you who haven't read the books have to share some of your predictions for the back half of the season. It'll be entertaining.
Other things I've wondered, though:
-Was the previous King's hand who was assassinated looking for the real heir to the throne by searching for the King's bastard children? Is that metal shop fellow the real crown prince? ha.
-Did the Lanisters kill the King's first wife (and Ed's sister)
-Is Snow not actually Ed's son? Perhaps its his brother's son, who wasn't supposed to have kids

Glad you like it. :)

No a bastard ca only inherit in Westeros if there are no other heirs so Robert's brothers Stannis (who haven't appeared on the show yet) and Renly would inherit before Robert's children out of wedlock.

Lyanna was just betrothed to Robert, never actually married, and the Lannisters had nothing to do with her. You'll probably find out more about her in the next couple of episodes.

As for Jon Snow, you might be on to something. Nothing has been reveild in the books (and if it had I wouldn't tell you) but there have been a few clues that point in a certain direction...   


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 29, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
The people making this show really know how to end an episode! Soooooo good.

And finally, we got a little HBO-style pointless lesbianism. ;D


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: John Dibble on May 31, 2011, 10:36:51 AM
-Is Snow not actually Ed's son? Perhaps its his brother's son, who wasn't supposed to have kids
...

As for Jon Snow, you might be on to something. Nothing has been reveild in the books (and if it had I wouldn't tell you) but there have been a few clues that point in a certain direction...

Yes, there's a certain hypothesis in regards to that I thought up one night that others also thought of in regards to that. The implications will be quite interesting if it's correct.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Verily on June 06, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
-Is Snow not actually Ed's son? Perhaps its his brother's son, who wasn't supposed to have kids
...

As for Jon Snow, you might be on to something. Nothing has been reveild in the books (and if it had I wouldn't tell you) but there have been a few clues that point in a certain direction...

Yes, there's a certain hypothesis in regards to that I thought up one night that others also thought of in regards to that. The implications will be quite interesting if it's correct.

Since you guys won't do it... Spoiler alert!

He's very likely (although not 100% confirmed in the books, very strongly hinted at) the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen (Viserys and Daenerys's dead older brother, the one Robert hated). Lyanna likely died giving birth to him. Lyanna was Eddard's sister, the one whom Robert loved. You saw a statute of her in the Winterfell crypt in the first episode. Rhaegar "abducting" her was what triggered the events leading to Robert's rebellion, but all indications are that she actually went quite willingly and loved Rhaegar.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 06, 2011, 01:08:24 PM
Uh, Syrio better not be dead after last night's episode because that guy was awesome.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on June 06, 2011, 02:56:47 PM
-Is Snow not actually Ed's son? Perhaps its his brother's son, who wasn't supposed to have kids
...

As for Jon Snow, you might be on to something. Nothing has been reveild in the books (and if it had I wouldn't tell you) but there have been a few clues that point in a certain direction...

Yes, there's a certain hypothesis in regards to that I thought up one night that others also thought of in regards to that. The implications will be quite interesting if it's correct.

Since you guys won't do it... Spoiler alert!

He's very likely (although not 100% confirmed in the books, very strongly hinted at) the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen (Viserys and Daenerys's dead older brother, the one Robert hated). Lyanna likely died giving birth to him. Lyanna was Eddard's older sister, the one whom Robert loved. You saw a statute of her in the Winterfell crypt in the first episode. Rhaegar "abducting" her was what triggered the events leading to Robert's rebellion, but all indications are that she actually went quite willingly and loved Rhaegar.

STOP THAT DON'T SPOIL THAT'S SO EVIL


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Inmate Trump on June 06, 2011, 03:00:38 PM
I don't have HBO :(


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Verily on June 06, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
-Is Snow not actually Ed's son? Perhaps its his brother's son, who wasn't supposed to have kids
...

As for Jon Snow, you might be on to something. Nothing has been reveild in the books (and if it had I wouldn't tell you) but there have been a few clues that point in a certain direction...

Yes, there's a certain hypothesis in regards to that I thought up one night that others also thought of in regards to that. The implications will be quite interesting if it's correct.

Since you guys won't do it... Spoiler alert!

He's very likely (although not 100% confirmed in the books, very strongly hinted at) the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen (Viserys and Daenerys's dead older brother, the one Robert hated). Lyanna likely died giving birth to him. Lyanna was Eddard's older sister, the one whom Robert loved. You saw a statute of her in the Winterfell crypt in the first episode. Rhaegar "abducting" her was what triggered the events leading to Robert's rebellion, but all indications are that she actually went quite willingly and loved Rhaegar.

STOP THAT DON'T SPOIL THAT'S SO EVIL

They only read it if they want to. Plus, if they were at this point in the books (i.e., where the show is), they'd have all the information we do on Jon's parentage, minus some vague backstory hints from much later on (but the best evidence is in the first book). I'm a little baffled by the absence of the Tower of Joy so far, although they have one more opportunity next episode, before it's too late.

I think that was obfuscating enough not to consist of any spoilers.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Verily on June 13, 2011, 11:01:51 AM
Bump.

:D


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 13, 2011, 11:24:13 AM
I can't think of any shows that killed off their main character in the first season. What an ending!

Also is magic a real thing in this world? Because for the first few episodes I thought this place was basically the Middle Ages but on some other planet, with all the magic (like dragons) being part of far off legend. But then suddenly blood magic in Drogo's tent last night.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Verily on June 13, 2011, 11:35:33 AM
I can't think of any shows that killed off their main character in the first season. What an ending!

Also is magic a real thing in this world? Because for the first few episodes I thought this place was basically the Middle Ages but on some other planet, with all the magic (like dragons) being part of far off legend. But then suddenly blood magic in Drogo's tent last night.

The basic gist of it is that there is clearly magic, or some sort of divine power, but it's not very strong and fairly limited in scope. The last dragons lived only ~150 years ago (this is stated on the show), so they aren't far-off legend even though they are all extinct at the time of the series. Without spoiling anything, there will be a bit more magic in season 2, for reasons that are best left unexplained as of yet (and which is a little ambiguous in the books, too, mainly because none of the characters really know why).

Magic is in the background, and magical things happen (and sometimes drive parts of the plot), but magic is not powerful or (for the most part) institutionalized.

Also, want to make sure you know that there is one more episode to the season next week. Be sure to watch it. It will have two of the best scenes in the series--one that will look like the finale, and you'll be wondering why the episode isn't over, and then another one that will actually be the finale and will leave you wondering why you thought the first one was the finale at all.

I'm curious whether they will show... events... at Highgarden next episode that we didn't get to see in the book due to POV constraints. I hope so.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on June 13, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
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I'm curious whether they will show... events... at Highgarden next episode that we didn't get to see in the book due to POV constraints. I hope so.

They haven't cast Margeary yet, so most likly not. Still I can't wait to see the Tyrells make their real entrence next season. That little bit of Loras was way to brief. And the Roses are my favourite House.

Growing Strong ;D


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Verily on June 13, 2011, 01:12:38 PM
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I'm curious whether they will show... events... at Highgarden next episode that we didn't get to see in the book due to POV constraints. I hope so.

They haven't cast Margeary yet, so most likly not. Still I can't wait to see the Tyrells make their real entrence next season. That little bit of Loras was way to brief. And the Roses are my favourite House.

Growing Strong ;D

True. Though there were other characters who were not officially cast but appeared on screen anyway (Rickard Karstark, Maege Mormont, maybe some others I'm forgetting. Wouldn't be that hard to have Margaery hidden in a wedding veil for the episode and then have someone totally different actually play her next season. It's a stretch, though.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 13, 2011, 01:18:45 PM
In other news, people are dumb and terrible: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/13/game-of-thrones-reaction/


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on June 13, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
Thanks for the spoiler alert guys!


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on June 13, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
Glad you liked the twist ending Lief. The fact that anyone can die is one of the reasons the books are so exciting. You actually feel nervous because your favourite character might actually end up dead. Of course I was furious in book three when my favourite character was killed and put the book down for like three hours, before I had forgiven Martin. But that kind of emotion is what's great about Asoiaf.

As for episode 9 I'm disappointed we didn't get to see anything from the battle of the Green Fork or the Battle of the Whispering Woods, I was counting on some good action. Oh well, we'll have the Battle of the Blackwater next season. Otherwise a great episode.

True. Though there were other characters who were not officially cast but appeared on screen anyway (Rickard Karstark, Maege Mormont, maybe some others I'm forgetting. Wouldn't be that hard to have Margaery hidden in a wedding veil for the episode and then have someone totally different actually play her next season. It's a stretch, though.
 

I'm guessing we won't see Riverrun until next season either unfortunatley, as Edmure neither has been cast. A pity. I guess they could go with a veil for Margeary, intresting theory, but I think it's unlikly. 


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on June 14, 2011, 11:40:03 AM
*hughughug* to the book virgins :(

I'm rooting for more Tully, as I'm basically one.

In other news, people are dumb and terrible: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/13/game-of-thrones-reaction/

I was reading reactions, and cheering for the people who responded appropriately, but I couldn't help but feel embarrassed for the guy who said he'd stop watching because "he changed nothing.  nothing happened."  Nothing?  Really?  Ned changed nothing?!


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: 7,052,770 on June 16, 2011, 06:48:10 PM
Great show.  Anyone who thought any character was "untouchable" is an idiot, even if they'd never read the books (like me).  Surely anyone who stuck around for 9 episodes was engrossed in the whole show, not just trudging through the non-Bean scenes just to see him?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 19, 2011, 10:52:39 PM
God, I hate cliff-hanger season finales. Waiting a whole year is going to suck.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on June 19, 2011, 11:29:51 PM
God, I hate cliff-hanger season finales. Waiting a whole year is going to suck.

Oh that's nothing, some book readers have been waiting for five years on the end to the cliffhangers in Feast for Crows (The fourth book)

I hear rumours it was a good episode, looking forward to seeing it.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: dead0man on June 20, 2011, 03:46:54 AM
Yeah, it's sitting on both of our DVRs right now waiting for the wife to get up so we can watch it.  Hopefully all the kids will be asleep before she wakes up so we can watch in peace in the living room with the good TV.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on June 20, 2011, 10:48:54 PM
God, I hate cliff-hanger season finales. Waiting a whole year is going to suck.

Yeah, I feel sorry for all my non-book friends :(

For readers: 22 days until our "cliffhanger" is resolved!

And this episode was fittingly awesome for an awesome show.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 24, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
BUMP

I've spent the last two days watching this incredible series. I had never heard of the book series, but I'm itching to read it now. A few notes:

1) The "Golden Crown" was epic. That whiny bastard deserved to die.

2) I was very shocked at the death of Ned Stark. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show kill off the main character so soon. That took a lot of balls.

3) The inbred king must go.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Beet on February 25, 2012, 01:55:32 AM
I finished the book over winter break and have never seen the movie. All I'll say is that George R.R. Martin is one verbose dude. Sometimes I think he's the Charles Dickens of the early 21st century. But I enjoyed the book immensely.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: John Dibble on February 25, 2012, 07:55:39 AM
2) I was very shocked at the death of Ned Stark. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show kill off the main character so soon. That took a lot of balls.

They pretty much HAD to. It's in the first book, and if they didn't do it they'd have to rewrite the entire story afterward - if Ned was allowed to live much of the conflict in the later books would just never occur. Rob would no longer have a justification for war and he would take his army back north, and that would just be boring.

It's one of the things I respect most about George R.R. Martin - he is not afraid to kill off an important character if it advances the story.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 25, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
2) I was very shocked at the death of Ned Stark. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show kill off the main character so soon. That took a lot of balls.

They pretty much HAD to. It's in the first book, and if they didn't do it they'd have to rewrite the entire story afterward - if Ned was allowed to live much of the conflict in the later books would just never occur. Rob would no longer have a justification for war and he would take his army back north, and that would just be boring.

It's one of the things I respect most about George R.R. Martin - he is not afraid to kill off an important character if it advances the story.

Oh, I respect him for doing so -- Ned was too noble to live. I had trouble seeing how he could possibly get himself out of the situation, though I suppose a Ned/Arya/Sansa for Jaime trade may have worked. I love to hate King Joffrey.

I just bought the first and second books today... how faithful of an adaptation is the series? Does the book have chapters/events the series does not?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: John Dibble on February 25, 2012, 09:27:00 PM

You have no idea.

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I just bought the first and second books today... how faithful of an adaptation is the series? Does the book have chapters/events the series does not?

So far, about as faithful as a television adaptation could be. All the main characters' plots are pretty much spot on.

There are some additions to deal with certain things that are implied in the books but not necessarily spelled out - for instance the scene with Loras shaving Renly did not happen in the book, and it obviously makes them gay characters. This is implied multiple times in the books, but not so blatantly. (many people were shocked at it and the implications had to be pointed out to them) I've heard season 2 also has some planned additions, but as you've not gotten through the first three books I won't spoil it for you.

On the other hand some things are left out to a degree. Bran's dreams about the three-eyed crow go into much more detail in the books. Also, the dire wolves play a bigger role in the first book than they do the first season of the show. This is kind of inevitable though - you'll almost always get more detail in text.

Some things were made different for television as well. Dany in the book is 13, but she's made older in the show for reasons related to television. Bran is also a couple years younger in the books. The Mountain that Rides is also larger in the book - kind of hard to find an actor eight feet tall and scary enough I guess.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 25, 2012, 09:58:45 PM
Does Tyrion (and Lord Tywin, I guess) have any suspicions about Jaime and Cersei's incest? I got the impression that while he likes his brother, he dislikes his sister. Just curious. I got the impression from the second episode that he knows something is up.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Platypus on February 25, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
I've read all the books, but haven't yet seen the series. Looking forward to having a bit of a marathon when I get home, though.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: John Dibble on February 25, 2012, 10:24:43 PM
Does Tyrion (and Lord Tywin, I guess) have any suspicions about Jaime and Cersei's incest? I got the impression that while he likes his brother, he dislikes his sister. Just curious. I got the impression from the second episode that he knows something is up.

It's ambiguous on purpose. I don't want to spoil anything for you or anyone else here who hasn't read the books. Suffice to say the Lannister family is rather messed up, and by the end of book three your questions about this will have been cleared up.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: dead0man on April 01, 2012, 04:36:51 PM
3.5 hours!


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on April 01, 2012, 10:32:43 PM

Watched it.  It was alright.  No YouTube videos of Cersei slapping Joffrey yet?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass! on April 03, 2012, 05:28:53 AM
I was a little dissapointed with it. Can't put my finger on why.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: dead0man on April 03, 2012, 05:35:43 AM
There were no "REALLY BIG MOMENTS!".  We were introduced to a handful of new people that weren't as over the top as most of the cast we already know.  It reeked of "set up episode" from front to back.....I don't know, I felt the same way you did.  The baby killing thing was hardcore, but didn't really come across that way for whatever reason.  I wish HBO would splurge and give us at least one big battle scene, but I'm not going to hold my breath.  They did it a couple of times with Rome, but then again, the cost (or so I've read) was one of the main reasons we didn't get another season of that great show.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 03, 2012, 06:53:05 AM
I just watched the first two episodes of the new season online.  The second episode of the season has already aired on HBO GO in Europe, so you can find it in the usual places online.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: bgwah on April 26, 2012, 01:16:55 AM
The plot confuses me sometimes, but thankfully Mr. Garrison cleared some of it up for me. ;D


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: dead0man on April 26, 2012, 04:23:02 AM
Indeed...and probably the best episode of SP this year too.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 26, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
LOL

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Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: ilikeverin on April 26, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
I have to say I was surprised that this ep ended when it did.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: dead0man on April 26, 2012, 05:40:23 PM
That's disturbingly accurate.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones on HBO
Post by: Vosem on April 26, 2012, 09:24:44 PM

I love this. Even as a supporter of both Mitt Romney and Stannis Baratheon.