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Title: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 30, 2011, 10:40:25 AM
Group B : Right

()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 1 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 30, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
Fab's vote : Liberal party (Iceland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Nhoj on April 30, 2011, 11:24:09 AM
Liberal party (Iceland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Hash on April 30, 2011, 02:20:21 PM
Liberal Party (Iceland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Edu on April 30, 2011, 02:24:24 PM
Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Niemeyerite on April 30, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
- Moderate Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: homelycooking on April 30, 2011, 08:50:15 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: BenNebbich on May 01, 2011, 12:08:42 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 01, 2011, 03:09:57 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 01, 2011, 06:10:23 AM
Swiss People's Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 01, 2011, 08:24:08 AM
Liberal Party (Iceland) is out

()

F (I) : 6
Con : 1
M : 1
SVP : 1



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 2 begins. You have 3 votes to eliminate, to cast for 3 different parties. You have also 2 votes to give immunity, to cast for 2 different parties.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 01, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Fab's vote :

Eliminate SVP, LAOS, True Finns

Immunize Conservative Party (UK), Moderate Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 01, 2011, 09:17:27 AM
eliminate Moderate Party (Sweden), Swiss People's Party and Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland

inmunity: Conservative party of the United Kingdom and Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Nhoj on May 01, 2011, 09:30:13 AM
Eliminate - Centre Party (Norway), Centre Party (Finland), True Finns
Immunize - Conservative Party (UK), Moderate Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Hash on May 01, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
eliminate SVP, True Finns and Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
immunize Moderates,  Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 01, 2011, 11:36:17 AM
Eliminate SVP, FN, True Finns

Immunize Moderate Party, LibDems


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Leftbehind on May 01, 2011, 12:24:54 PM
Eliminate Tories, Venstre, Liberal Party (Iceland)
Immunise Danish Social Liberal Party, Democrats 66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: homelycooking on May 01, 2011, 02:03:16 PM
Eliminate True Finns, Swiss CDPP, Centre Party (Finland)

Immunize LibDems, UK Tories


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: BenNebbich on May 02, 2011, 04:21:27 AM
Eliminate

True Finns
SVP
Centre Party Finland

Immunize

Tories UK
Democrats 66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 2
Post by: Edu on May 02, 2011, 06:53:37 AM
Eliminate
Centre Party (Norway)
Liberal Democrats (UK)
Conservative Party (UK)

Immunity
Moderate Party (Sweden)
Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 02, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
True Finns is out

()

PS : 6
SVP : 5
Kesk : 3
SP : 2
Con : 2
CVP : 2
FN : 1
M : 1
LAOS : 1
KFP : 1
V : 1
LibDem : 1

Immunity :
M : 5 (winner by coin toss)
Con : 5
B : 4
D66 : 2
LibDem : 2



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) Immune for rounds 3-6
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 3 begins. You have 15 votes to eliminate, to cast 5-4-3-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 02, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
5  National Front (France)
4  Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
3  Sweden Democrats
2  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1  Swiss People's Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Nhoj on May 02, 2011, 01:31:39 PM
5  National Front (France)
4  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
3  Sweden Democrats
2  Kesk
1  KrF


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 02, 2011, 01:55:13 PM
5 Swiss People's Party
4 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
3 Sweden Democrats
2 Kesk
1 Liberal Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: homelycooking on May 02, 2011, 08:00:17 PM
5 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
4 Swiss People's Party
3 Sweden Democrats
2 Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1 Conservatives (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: BenNebbich on May 03, 2011, 02:07:21 AM
5 Swiss People Party
4 National Front France
3 Party for Freedom NL
2 Sweden Democrats
1 ÖVP Austria


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 03, 2011, 07:02:19 AM
Fab's vote :

5 SVP
4 LAOS
3 Sweden Democrats
2 FN
1 Danish Social Liberal Party

Sorry for taking so much time, yesterday was extremely busy and it's already a miracle if I managed to close the round. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Edu on May 03, 2011, 10:56:16 AM
5 for the Conservative Party (UK)
4 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)
3 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
2 for the Austrian People's Party
1 for the Centre Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Leftbehind on May 03, 2011, 06:47:51 PM
5 Tories
4 Venstre 
3 FrP
2 Conservatives (Norway)
1 PVV


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 3
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 05, 2011, 04:48:30 AM
5 SVP
4 FN
3 LAOS
2 ÖVP
1 Kesk


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 05, 2011, 05:48:22 AM
Swiss People's Party is out

()

SVP : 25
FN : 20
SD : 17
PVV : 12
LAOS : 11
Con : 10
CVP : 9
ÖVP : 5
Kesk : 5
LibDem : 4
V (D) : 4
CDU/CSU : 3
H : 3
FP (N) : 3
KFP : 1
V (N) : 1
SP : 1
B : 1



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) Immune for rounds 3-6
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 4 begins. You have 15 votes to eliminate, to cast 8-4-2-1, and 7 votes to keep, to cast 4-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 05, 2011, 06:24:04 AM
Fab's vote :

Eliminate :
8 LAOS
4 Sweden Democrats
2 FN
1 Danish social liberal party

Keep :
4 Conservatives UK
2 Moderate party
1 Kok


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Nhoj on May 05, 2011, 09:18:04 AM
Eliminate :
8 PVV
4 FN
2 Sweden Democrats
1 KESK
Keep :
4 Conservatives UK
2 Moderate party
1 Kok


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 05, 2011, 09:50:37 AM
Eliminate:
8  National Front (France)
4  Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
2  Sweden Democrats
1  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)

Keep:
4  Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
2  Danish Social Liberal Party
1  Centre Party (Sweden)



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 05, 2011, 09:56:37 AM
8 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
4 Sweden Democrats
2 Kesk
1 Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)

keep:

4 Conservatives UK
2 Danish Social Liberal Party
1 Venstre (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: homelycooking on May 05, 2011, 09:57:16 AM
Eliminate
8 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
4 Sweden Democrats
2 Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1 Conservatives (Norway)

Keep
4 UK Tories
2 LAOS
1 Front national


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Hash on May 05, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
eliminate
8 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
4 SvD
2 PVV
1 LAOS

keep
4 KESK
2 KOK
1 Radikale Venstre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: BenNebbich on May 05, 2011, 02:14:38 PM
Eliminate

8 Christian Democratic Party of Switzerland
4 National Front France
2 PVV
1 Laos

Keep
4 Democrats 66
2 Tories
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Edu on May 05, 2011, 09:18:22 PM
Eliminate
8 for the Conservative Party (UK)
4 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)
2 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
1 for the Austrian People's Party

Keep
4 for the Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
2 for the National Front (France)
1 for the Sweden Democrats


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 4
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 06, 2011, 09:41:26 AM
Eliminate :
8 FN
4 LAOS
2 ÖVP
1 Kesk

Keep :
4 LibDem
2 CDU/CSU
1 Hoyre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 06, 2011, 10:38:16 AM
Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland is out

()

CVP : 32
FN : 23
SD : 19
LAOS : 17
PVV : 15
ÖVP : 3
H : 0
LibDem : 0
Kesk : 0
V (D) : -1
CDU/CSU : -1
C (S) : -1
B : -4
Kok : -4
M : -4
Con : -10
D66 : -12



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) Immune for rounds 3-6
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 5 begins. You have 5 votes to eliminate, to cast as you want, and 2 votes to keep, to cast as you want.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 06, 2011, 11:26:05 AM
Fab's vote (this one is open to interpretations since I don't know how he would have cats his points) :

Eliminate :
2 LAOS
2 Sweden Democrats
1 FN

Keep :
1 Con (UK)
1 Kok

Fab should be back tomorrow, so if he comes back before the round ends I'll let him cast a true vote.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 06, 2011, 12:56:17 PM
Eliminate:
5  Front National

Keep:
2  Democrats 66 (Netherlands)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: homelycooking on May 06, 2011, 01:44:31 PM
Eliminate
4 Sweden Democrats
1 Party for Freedom (NL)

Keep
2 Front national


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Nhoj on May 06, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
Eliminate :
4 PVV (NL)
1 FN

Keep :
1 Con (UK)
1 Kok


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 06, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
Fab's vote (this one is open to interpretations since I don't know how he would have cats his points) :

Eliminate :
2 LAOS
2 Sweden Democrats
1 FN

Keep :
1 Con (UK)
1 Kok

Fab should be back tomorrow, so if he comes back before the round ends I'll let him cast a true vote.

I like Fab's vote. I'll only change one thing...:

2 LAOS
2 Sweeden democrats
1 Liberal-democrats of the UK

keeep conservatives of the UK and KoK


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: BenNebbich on May 07, 2011, 05:18:15 AM
Eliminate

Front National 5

Keep

Sweden Democrats 2


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Hash on May 07, 2011, 04:10:59 PM
eliminate
3 PVV
1 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
1 SvD

keep
2 FN


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: big bad fab on May 07, 2011, 04:19:46 PM
I approve Antonio's "translation" of my wishes :).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Leftbehind on May 08, 2011, 01:02:41 AM
Eliminate
3 FrP
2 Venstre (Denmark)

Keep
Danish Social Liberals


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Edu on May 08, 2011, 02:01:51 AM
Eliminate
5 for the Conservative Party (UK)

Keep
2 for the National Front (France)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 08, 2011, 11:20:15 AM
Eliminate :
5 FN

Keep :
1 PVV
1 LibDem


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 08, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
National Front (France) is out

()

FN : 16
PVV : 7
SD : 7
LAOS : 4
FP (N) : 3
V (D) : 2
Con (UK) : 2
KD : 1
LibDem : 0
B : -2
Kesk : -2
D66 : -2
Kok : -3



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party) Immune for rounds 3-6
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 6 begins. You have 6 negative votes, to cast 3-2-1, and 6 positive votes, to cast 3-2-1. The party with the most positive total will be immune for round 7 to 10. No party will be eliminated. Please don't cast any vote for immune parties.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 08, 2011, 01:20:29 PM
Eliminate:
3  LAOS
2  Sweden Democrats
1  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)

Immunize:
3  Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
2  Danish Social Liberal Party
1  Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: BenNebbich on May 08, 2011, 01:26:43 PM
'-'

3 PVV
2 Sweden Democrats
1 Liberal Democrats UK

'+'
3 D66
2 Tories
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Nhoj on May 08, 2011, 01:50:11 PM
Eliminate:
3  PVV
2  Sweden Democrats
1  Christian Democrats (Sweden)

Immunize:
3  Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
2  Danish Social Liberal Party
1  Liberal Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Hash on May 08, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Eliminate
3  PVV
2  Sweden Democrats
1  Christian Democrats (Sweden)

Immunize
3  Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
2  Danish Social Liberal Party
1  Liberal Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: big bad fab on May 08, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
Eliminate
3 LAOS
2 Sweden Democrats
1 Danish Social Liberal Party

Keep
3 UK Conservatives
2 LibDems
1 Kok

So, the final phase will be between Greens and "progressive" centre-right... how boring and falsely modern... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Edu on May 08, 2011, 05:08:38 PM
So, the final phase will be between Greens and "progressive" centre-right... how boring and falsely modern... :P

I think we both want this survivor to be interesting, the difference is that you think that having the "establishment" parties that we hear about in the news all the time and everyone knows it's history is interesting, while i think that eliminating early all the parties that always reach final rounds of survivors in favor of parties we actually have to read something about them and their history is more interesting ;D Oh and welcome back :)

Eliminate
3 for the Conservative Party (UK)
2 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)
1 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)

Immunity
3 for the National Coalition Party (Finland)
2 for the Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1 for the Sweden Democrats



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: homelycooking on May 08, 2011, 06:02:50 PM
FN gone too? Ça m'énerve...

Eliminate
3 Sweden Democrats
2 Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1 Danish Social Liberals

Keep
3 LAOS
2 LibDems
1 UK Conservatives


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: big bad fab on May 09, 2011, 02:05:13 AM
So, the final phase will be between Greens and "progressive" centre-right... how boring and falsely modern... :P

I think we both want this survivor to be interesting, the difference is that you think that having the "establishment" parties that we hear about in the news all the time and everyone knows it's history is interesting, while i think that eliminating early all the parties that always reach final rounds of survivors in favor of parties we actually have to read something about them and their history is more interesting ;D Oh and welcome back :)


Thanks.

I prefectly understand this viewpoint, but I must acknowledge I can't help comparing the 1880s-1890s-1900s for social democracy with the stupid 1990s-2000s for Greens or "social liberal" centre-right...and when I compare, I automatically choose ;).

In fact, when I think about political parties, I think about established ones, that's true, but very long established ones.
See, I don't even whine when the UMP was ousted ;D: it didn't deserve to last long.

I also "like" parties with complicated histories and/or many wings, like the FN (yes, it was a bit early to oust it, though I HATE its current leader) or even the D66.

I think that what I dislike most is... "modernity" ;D
and many Greens and "progressive" centre and right parties are "modern" :P.

What I see coming doesn't please me and, whatever I can say, I'm still not accustomed to lose bad in survivors ;). That may be another big reason :D.

But with Antonio, maybe homely and Ben (though we have our differences), I still hope we can stop this trend ;D.
No, I don't have any hope as left/right divide will eventually kill my last favourites in the final stage... :)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 09, 2011, 03:28:35 AM
Personally, I have parties I like in every group except the far-right. I might have a strong bias toward Social-Democratic and Liberal parties, but there are a lot of parties I don't like among them and a lot of parties I like in other groups.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 09, 2011, 02:19:38 PM

I think that what I dislike most is... "modernity" ;D
and many Greens and "progressive" centre and right parties are "modern" :P.


Maybe you dislike them, because you are a man of the past ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: big bad fab on May 09, 2011, 02:21:15 PM

I think that what I dislike most is... "modernity" ;D
and many Greens and "progressive" centre and right parties are "modern" :P.


Maybe you dislike them, because you are a man of the past ;D

Exactly !
And I'm proud of it :D !


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 6
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 11, 2011, 10:59:46 AM
Eliminate :
3 LAOS
2 ÖVP
1 VVD

Keep :
3 Radikale Venstre
2 Venstre (Norway)
1 Kok


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 11, 2011, 12:18:02 PM
Immunity :
SD : 13
PVV : 13
LAOS : 6
ÖVP : 2
KD : 2
CDU/CSU : 0
VVD : 0
LibDem : -1
C : -1
Kok : -3
Kesk : -3
Con (UK) : -3
V (N) : -4
B : -9
D66 : -12



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) Immune for rounds 7-10
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 7 begins. You have 10 votes to eliminate, to cast 3-2-2-2-1.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 11, 2011, 12:22:40 PM
3 Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
2 National Coalition Party (Finland)
2 Liberal democrats
2 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
1 Conservative People's Party (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Hash on May 11, 2011, 01:14:01 PM
3  Christian Democrats (Sweden)
2  PVV
2  SvD
2  Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
1  VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 11, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
3 LAOS
2 ÖVP
2 VVD
2 Kesk
1 KD

@Fab : Interestingly, I hate "modernity" too. ;) Though probably not for the same reasons. :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 11, 2011, 01:33:44 PM
3  LAOS
2  Sweden Democrats
2  Progress Party (Norway)
2  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1  Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: BenNebbich on May 11, 2011, 01:56:31 PM
3 Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
2 National Coalition Party (Finland)
2 Liberal democrats
2 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
1 Conservative People's Party (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: big bad fab on May 11, 2011, 02:59:06 PM
3 LAOS
2 Sweden Democrats
2 Danish Social Liberal Party
2 PVV
1 ÖVP


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Nhoj on May 11, 2011, 03:51:47 PM
3  Christian Democrats (Sweden)
2  PVV
2  SvD
2  Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
1 Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: Edu on May 11, 2011, 04:47:09 PM
3 for the Conservative Party (UK)
2 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)
2 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
2 for the Centre Party (Norway)
1 for the Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 7
Post by: homelycooking on May 11, 2011, 07:41:43 PM
3 Sweden Democrats
2 Swedish Centre
2 Conservative People's Party
2 Party for Freedom
1 Danish Social Liberals

Waaay too many Scandinavian parties still here...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 12, 2011, 11:35:23 AM
Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) is out

()

LAOS : 15
KD : 13
SD : 11
PVV : 10
C (D) : 8
Con (UK) : 7
LibDem : 6
Kok : 6
ÖVP : 4
C (S) : 4
VVD : 3
B : 3
FP (N) : 2
Kesk : 2
H : 2
CDU/CSU : 2
SP : 2

I've no idea what "nasty party" refers to (there are so much left on this list... ;D). Jarl, you should start casting more explicit votes. :P



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) Immune for rounds 7-10
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 8 begins. You have 10 votes to eliminate, to cast as you want between 3 different parties (you must give at least 1 vote to each).


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 12, 2011, 11:59:54 AM
What ? Among all the craps there are in this group, the Tories are the official nasty party ? ??? I thought you were refering to the PVV or Sweden Democrats...

Anyways, updated the total even though it changes nothing. :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 12, 2011, 12:06:29 PM
8 Liberal democrats
1 Christian democrats of sweeden
1 Conservative People's Party (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: BenNebbich on May 12, 2011, 12:24:53 PM
8 Liberal democrats
1 Christian democrats of sweeden
1 Conservative People's Party (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 12, 2011, 12:55:39 PM
8  Sweden Democrats
1  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1  Progress Party (Norway)

I can't understand why this scum is still here? :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: big bad fab on May 12, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
8 Sweden Democrats
1 PVV
1 Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Nhoj on May 12, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
8  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
1  Sweden Democrats
1  Progress Party (Norway)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Edu on May 12, 2011, 04:17:19 PM
It seems that i'll have more chance to eliminate the friggin LibDems than the Conserva party

Eliminate
8 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)
1 for the Conservative Party (UK)
1 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: homelycooking on May 12, 2011, 09:06:44 PM
8 Sweden Democrats
1 Conservative People's Party
1 Party for Freedom


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 8
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 13, 2011, 07:48:23 AM
7 Sweden Democrats
2 ÖVP
1 KD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 13, 2011, 08:45:05 AM
Sweden Democrats is out

()

SD : 32
LibDem : 24
PVV : 13
Con : 8
C (D) : 3
KD : 3
ÖVP : 2
FP (N) : 2
B : 1
CDU/CSU : 1
H : 1



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) Immune for rounds 7-10
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 9 begins. You have 8 votes to eliminate, to cast 3-3-2.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: Nhoj on May 13, 2011, 11:04:47 AM
3 PVV
3 Progress Party (Norway)
2 Christian Democrats (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: Edu on May 13, 2011, 12:13:32 PM
Meh...

3 for the Conservative Party (UK)
3 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)
2 for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: BenNebbich on May 13, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
3 Lib Dem UK
3 PVV
2 Progress Norway


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 13, 2011, 01:17:34 PM
3  Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
3  Progress Party (Norway)
2  Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 13, 2011, 01:29:34 PM
3 ÖVP
3 KD
2 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: homelycooking on May 13, 2011, 02:25:59 PM
3 Party for Freedom
3 Progress Party Norway
2 Austrian People's Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: big bad fab on May 13, 2011, 03:57:46 PM
3 PVV
3 ÖVP
2 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 9
Post by: Hash on May 14, 2011, 12:54:34 PM
3 PVV
3 KD
2 FrP


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 15, 2011, 09:47:35 AM
Party for Freedom (Netherlands) is out

()

PVV : 21
FP (N) : 16
ÖVP : 10
KD : 8
LibDem : 6
Con : 5
VVD : 4
CDU/CSU : 2



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66) Immune for rounds 7-10
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 10 begins. You have 5 votes to eliminate, to cast 3-2. You also have 3 votes to immunize, to cast 2-1. Please do not cast any vote for immune parties.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: homelycooking on May 15, 2011, 10:20:54 AM
Eliminate
3 Progress Party Norway
2 Liberal People's Party Sweden

Immunize
2 Tories
1 LibDems


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: big bad fab on May 15, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
Eliminate
3 Progress Party
2 VVD

Immunize
2 Tories
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: Hash on May 15, 2011, 11:49:25 AM
eliminate
3 KD
2 VVD

Immunize
2 Hoyre
1 Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 15, 2011, 12:30:23 PM
Eliminate:
3  Progress Party (Norway)
2  Conservative Party (UK)

Immunize:
2  Danish Social Liberal Party
1  Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: Nhoj on May 15, 2011, 12:50:03 PM
Eliminate:
3  Progress Party (Norway)
2  Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
Immunize:
2  Hoyre
1  Moderate Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: BenNebbich on May 15, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
Eliminate

3 Progress Norway
2 Lib Dems

Immunize

2 Tories
1  Moderate Sweden


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: Edu on May 15, 2011, 04:24:04 PM
Eliminate
3 for the Conservative Party (UK)
2 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)

Immunity
2 for the Conservative Party (Norway)
1 for the Danish Social Liberal Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 16, 2011, 07:19:38 AM
Eliminate :
3 VVD
2 KD

Immunity :
2 Hoyre
1 Moderate Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 16, 2011, 09:01:17 AM
Progress Party (Norway) is out

()

FP (N) : 17
Con : 8
VVD : 7
KD : 5
LibDem : 4
KFP : 2
FP (S) : 2

Immunity :
H : 8
Con : 6
B : 3
M : 3
Kesk : 2
V (D) : 1
C (S) : 1
FP (S) : 1
CDU/CSU : 1
LibDem : 1



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway)) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 11 begins. For rounds 11 and 12, you have 10 votes overall. You can split them as you want between this round and the next one (for example, you can cast 7 votes this round and 3 the next one). You must cast all your votes for the same party.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: big bad fab on May 16, 2011, 09:35:15 AM
2 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: BenNebbich on May 16, 2011, 09:55:34 AM
9 Lib Dems


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 16, 2011, 09:57:24 AM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 16, 2011, 12:40:49 PM
9 Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Nhoj on May 16, 2011, 01:19:19 PM
3 Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: homelycooking on May 16, 2011, 03:07:54 PM
8 Conservative People's Party


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Edu on May 17, 2011, 09:08:28 PM
1 for the Liberal Democrats (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Hash on May 18, 2011, 09:10:20 AM
6 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 11
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 18, 2011, 02:14:36 PM
4 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 18, 2011, 03:20:14 PM
Liberal Democrats (UK) is out

()

LibDem : 19
Con : 13
VVD : 12
C (D) : 8



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway)) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 12 begins. No elimination this round, only a direct promotion vote. You have 9 votes, to cast 4-4-1.

Due to an error from me, the votes not used in round 11 will be cast next round instead of this one, sorry. ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: big bad fab on May 18, 2011, 03:58:04 PM
Promote

4 UK Conservatives
4 Moderate Party (Sweden)
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Edu on May 18, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
Wait, what? Where did this "Promotion" rule come from?
Maybe i'm missing when the threads will be merged or something but is there any reason why we have a promotion vote this round instead of in round 13?


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 18, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
4 Tories
4 CDU
1 Venstre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 18, 2011, 04:14:03 PM
Wait, what? Where did this "Promotion" rule come from?
Maybe i'm missing when the threads will be merged or something but is there any reason why we have a promotion vote this round instead of in round 13?

For symetry's sake... Promotion in group A was 3 rounds after the first one, so in group B it's 3 rounds before the last one. :P

I'm sorry, I had scheduled the promotion round before even beginning phase II. When I made this rule on round 11, I had totally forgotten about that...

I hope that won't be too much of a problem, but you know I did the mistake in good faith.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Nhoj on May 18, 2011, 04:18:29 PM
4 National Coalition Party (Finland)
4 Moderate Party (Sweden)
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 18, 2011, 04:25:21 PM
Promote :
4 CDU/CSU
4 Moderate Party
1 Democrats 66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Edu on May 18, 2011, 04:41:47 PM
I fully believe you made a mistake, you are a good guy and i wouldn't accuse you of pulling a "Libertas" but I'm going to tell you why I'm pretty pissed right now :P

I've pretty much been on the opposite side of basically every one that voted in this survivor for months, my votes usually don't influence the result at all since nobody votes the parties i want out. Maybe i had a more recent success but the last tie i remember my vote having any influence in the results was when i managed to vote for the UMP and eliminate it, something that happened almost exactly 1 month ago, since then my votes have been doomed to failure day after day.
Now i finally have a good round with he LibDems eliminated, but i usually voted to have the Tories out before the LibDems so the victory wasn't complete (And frankly the LibDems were eliminated thanks to the 2 guys that gave 9 votes to it, and not because of me)
According to my calculations if the same people that voted last round votes in this one then the UK Conservative Party would be out, because the combined votes of Hans, Ethelbert, Nhoj and myself would have been greater than the votes of the rest of the users combined, so there was close to a 100%chance of the Conservatives going out.

But suddenly comes a Promotion vote that as far as i know wasn't advertised where there is a pretty good chance that the Tories will be promoted leaving everyone who voted for the Conservatives last round hanging in the wind.

I know your mistake was in good faith, I'm not questioning that at all, but it was your mistake, not ours, and the explanation that it all should be Symmetric is not really enough for me. Been waiting months with wasted votes and when i finally get my votes to count, then something else screws me. I think i have a right to be a bit annoyed.

Anyway, if the Tories aren't promoted this round and after next round they are still here I'll keep on playing like always (yep, wasting my votes even ;D), but if the Tories are promoted i think I'll stop voting in this survivor.

Again, i think this was an honest mistake and of course there is always the chance that the Tories aren't promoted and CDU or some other will. In fact, if need be, with great pains i would even vote to promote CDU just so the Conservas aren't promoted.
So yes, this is not a threat and I'm not really angry, it's more of a rant and to explain why i sounded pissy in my last message ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: homelycooking on May 18, 2011, 05:48:53 PM
4 Tories
4 CDU/CSU
1 Democrats 66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: BenNebbich on May 19, 2011, 12:02:16 AM
4 Tories
4 D66
1 CDU/CSU


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Edu on May 19, 2011, 10:01:57 AM
I've talked with Antonio a bit via PM and the fact is that i'm a bit embarrased of being frustrated yesterday, i think he's doing a great job with this big survivor and the truth is that I would keep voting in it even if the Tories are promoted :)
I guess it was a rant of the moment :P

Still, i suppose i have to, with great pains, vote for CDU which is a tragedy for me since after the LibDems it was my other big target ;D

4 for CDU/CSU
4 for Moderate Party (Sweden)
1 for Conservative People's Party (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 12
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 19, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
4  Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
4  Danish Social Liberal Party
1  Centre Party (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 20, 2011, 08:00:32 AM
Direct promotion :
CDU/CSU : 23
Con : 16
M : 16
D66 : 10
Kok : 4
Kesk : 4
B : 4
KD : 1
V : 1
C (D) : 1
C (S) : 1



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for the rest of phase II
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway)) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 13 begins. Now you can use the eliminate votes you haven't used on round 11. You must cast all your votes for the same party.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: BenNebbich on May 20, 2011, 09:34:58 AM
Join the 'Save the Tories' Movement now!

Vote to eliminate the ÖVP Austrian People's  Party

Eliminate ÖVP 1


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: big bad fab on May 20, 2011, 10:51:40 AM
Yeah, we can't afford to waste the smallest point...
I would have preferred to kill VVD... Anyway:

8 ÖVP


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Edu on May 20, 2011, 10:56:52 AM
9 for the Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 20, 2011, 12:53:37 PM
Join the "Kill the Tories" Movement ;D

1  Conservatives (GB)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 20, 2011, 03:08:22 PM
6 ÖVP


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: big bad fab on May 20, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
It's harder and harder...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: homelycooking on May 20, 2011, 06:42:53 PM
Join the 'Save the Tories' Movement now!

I'm with you!

2 ÖVP


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 20, 2011, 07:29:05 PM
1 ÖVP

save tories!


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Nhoj on May 20, 2011, 09:03:58 PM
7 Conservative Party (UK)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 13
Post by: Hash on May 22, 2011, 09:21:07 AM
4 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 22, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
Conservative Party (UK) is out

()

Con : 26
ÖVP : 18
VVD : 4



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for the rest of phase II
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway)) Immune for rounds 11-14
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 14 begins. You have 2 votes to eliminate, to cast for 2 different parties.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 22, 2011, 10:56:04 AM
Christian Democrats (Sweden)
Conservative People's Party (Denmark)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: Nhoj on May 22, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
Christian Democrats (Sweden)
Centre Party (Finland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: BenNebbich on May 22, 2011, 12:03:33 PM
ÖVP Austria
VVD Netherland


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: big bad fab on May 22, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
Well, what am I supposed to vote now ? :( :P

VVD
D66


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 22, 2011, 12:58:08 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 22, 2011, 01:04:57 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: homelycooking on May 22, 2011, 04:27:19 PM
Great. "Let's kill the Tories and leave behind a billion Scandinavian parties!!!!!1!"

ÖVP
Finland Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: Edu on May 22, 2011, 09:01:38 PM
Now i don't know who to vote :P

Christian Democrats (Sweden)
Centre Party (Finland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 14
Post by: big bad fab on May 23, 2011, 01:59:56 AM
Now i don't know who to vote :P

I know, losing in survivors is so relaxing... ;)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 23, 2011, 08:22:56 AM
Austrian People's Party is out

()

ÖVP : 4 (more votes in previous rounds, even though calculating it was a damn headache :P)
VVD : 4
KD : 4
Kesk : 3
KFP : 1
C (D) : 1
D66 : 1



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU) Immune for the rest of phase II
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Round 15 begins. You have 10 votes overall, to split as you want between the two groups. You must cast at least 2 votes in each group, and in each group you must cast all your votes for the same party.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Nhoj on May 23, 2011, 08:43:47 AM
7 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
3 Centre Party (Finland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 23, 2011, 09:01:59 AM
7 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
3 Centre Party (Finland)

No, you have to cast 10 votes among the two groups and vote for one party in each.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: homelycooking on May 23, 2011, 10:33:08 AM
8 Finland Centre


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 23, 2011, 10:45:39 AM
8 Christian Democrats (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: big bad fab on May 23, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
2 VVD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on May 23, 2011, 12:36:37 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: BenNebbich on May 23, 2011, 01:16:11 PM


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Nhoj on May 23, 2011, 01:26:20 PM
7 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
3 Centre Party (Finland)
Fixing vote too just 4 Christian Democrats (Sweden)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Hash on May 24, 2011, 08:06:38 AM
5 VVD
2 KD


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Edu on May 24, 2011, 11:26:02 AM
2 for the Centre Party (Finland)


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B, Round 15
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 24, 2011, 02:51:20 PM
5 VVD

I counted only Hash's votes for VVD because of this round's rule.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 24, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
Christian Democrats (Sweden) is out

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KD : 20
VVD : 16
Kesk : 10



()

- Austrian People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party)
- True Finns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Finns)
- National Front (France) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France))
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Orthodox_Rally)
- Liberal Party (Iceland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Iceland))
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom)
- Progress Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democrats (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden))
- Sweden Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats)
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland)
- Swiss People's Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party)
- Liberal Democrats (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats)
- Conservative Party (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK))

Qualified for phase III :
- Danish Social Liberal Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party)
- Venstre (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Denmark))
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_(Denmark))
- Centre Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Finland))
- National Coalition Party (Finland) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrats_66)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy)
- Centre Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Norway))
- Conservative Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway))
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Party_(Norway))
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_People%27s_Party_(Sweden))
- Centre Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden))
- Moderate Party (Sweden) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party)

Phase II is now complete ! I hope you have enjoyed this part too. :) The final phase, for which all surviving parties will be grouped, will soon begin.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Niemeyerite on May 24, 2011, 04:35:38 PM
I like the finalists from the left.... but that scandinavian crazyness is disgusting...


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: homelycooking on May 24, 2011, 06:31:08 PM
Again, for the hundredth time,

WAY TOO MANY BORING SCANDINAVIAN PARTIES.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: big bad fab on May 25, 2011, 04:29:56 AM
So... apart from CDU/CSU (which will be killed very early in the final stage, I presume :P) and M... :(


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 25, 2011, 05:01:56 AM
Too many scandinavian parties, yeah. If some assholes hadn't focused all their energy in outing LibDems and Conservatives, we could have eliminated Norwegian Christian Democrats and Swedish liberals... :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 25, 2011, 06:27:56 AM
Also, just to make things fully transparent, here's how I've solved the 3-way tie on round 14. To calcualte the "number of votes in previous round, I've made the sum of number of votes/total votes on the round*number of voters, so that rounds with the lot of votes don't get overrepresented.

The results were 6.18 for ÖVP, 5.3 for VVD and 3.86 for KD. As you can see, it was quite close. :P


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Edu on May 25, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
If you guys hadn't eliminated PASOK, FDP, the Social Democratic Party of Switzerland, Fianna Fáil, the Coalition of the Radical Left of Greece, Sinn Fein, the Socialist Party of Portugal, the Social Democratic Party of Portugal and the Front National among others then we could maybe have some more variety overall. Heck, even though i probably gave them a few points now and then Fine Gael, the Swiss People's Party and the Austrian People's Party would probably be fine additions to the final group.

But instead you decided to protect the same old boring parties we already know everything about like the Tories, the SPD, the LibDems, PSOE, etc :P



Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 26, 2011, 05:13:03 AM
If I well remember, you are the one who caused the elimination of the SPS. I was also one of the staunchest defenders of PASOK, and I think I managed to save it a few times.

FDP, Epic Fail, SYRIZA, and FN are all crap, the last two deserving to be ousted far earlier than they actually were.

And yeah, I like "old boring parties we already know everything about". They are among the richest and most interesting parties in this survivor.


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Edu on May 26, 2011, 12:04:58 PM
If I well remember, you are the one who caused the elimination of the SPS. I was also one of the staunchest defenders of PASOK, and I think I managed to save it a few times.

FDP, Epic Fail, SYRIZA, and FN are all crap, the last two deserving to be ousted far earlier than they actually were.

And yeah, I like "old boring parties we already know everything about". They are among the richest and most interesting parties in this survivor.

Well yeah, i caused it in the sense that i voted to eliminate the SPD of Germany without making calculations and the SPS was eliminated, it's not like i voted to oust it.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion of course, i don't think that the parties i mentioned are crap, but to each his own. This isn't a Major European parties survivor, if you wanted that you should have just organized a small survivor of 30 or so parties instead of this massive one that consists of more than 100. Don't get me wrong, i LOVE that you included a lot of other parties that aren't so major and i have enjoyed the survivor thus far, but i just thought it would be interesting to keep lesser known parties instead of the same parties that appear in several other survivors like the SPD of Germany that won in the socialist international parties survivor for instance. We also had several survivors where we had to choose between parties of a country, i know there were French and German parties survivors (the German one was one by...surprise... the SPD again :P) and the more recent Spanish parties. I don't remember if we had a survivor of UK parties but we sure as hell had several of their prime ministers and party leaders. So yes, i find it a bit boring that these parties appear in final rounds of survivors again.

Anyway, i don't think people (including myself) that voted for the conservatives and the SPD and the LibDems, etc are "assholes", but we probably just have a different opinion on how the survivor should flow. For instance Hans likes the Green parties and so he votes to protect them, maybe they aren't old relics with a lot of history but he likes them and it's just another way of approaching voting in survivors, after all as Fab usually points out different people have different priorities in the game.

And I'm going to repeat this once more just in case. I LIKE the survivor, i consider Antonio a good mate and I'm not really complaining about it (i don't particularly care that much if there are too many Scandinavian parties or not, i mean sure some variety would be nicer but i don't have huge problems with it) but i thought i should respond to Antonio's post, and it's not because of the "asshole" part of the post since i know he uses that in jest (At least i hope he does :P)

I still have weeks of suffering though since my crusade is still far from over and i expect some agonizing days for my votes. The CDU, PSOE, Labour party of the UK and the french Socialist party are still alive and kicking ;D


Title: Re: Western Europe political parties survivor (Phase II) - Group B COMPLETE
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 26, 2011, 12:56:04 PM
There are many Scandinavian parties. Most of them are fairly old and have rich history, although  especially Alliance parties in Sweden are not very distinctive anymore. The reason for Scandinavian over presentation stem from original choices of Antonio. For example, Norwegian Venstre is really small party. For example Finnish KD or Dutch CU are much more living parties. Personally I think there is many interesting Italian and French parties that were not originally as alternatives. Anyhow this is interesting survivor.

The parties you mentioned are all around 4% today in their respective countries, but Venstre is the only one which got over 5% at some point (5.9% in the 2005 election). My criterion might be a bit arbitrary, but there was no other way to select parties for someone who hasn't an extremely approfondite knowledge of each of the 20 countries concerned. ;)


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since i know he uses that in jest (At least i hope he does )

Would I really spend so much time organizing all this if it were just for a bunch of assholes ? ;D

And anyway yes, I understand your "vision" of this survivor and why you don't want the SPD or the Tories to win this (I don't either, FTR). I still find it a bit weird that these parties were above truly nasty sacks of crap like ÖVP or VVD in your "hit list".