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Title: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: zachman on December 05, 2004, 08:37:48 PM Name five Democrats who you think would make good nominees/Presidents for 2008:
(in no particular order) Phil Bredensen Mark Warner Harry Reid Russ Feingold Barack Obama Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Alcon on December 05, 2004, 08:42:08 PM Evan Bayh
Bill Richardson Mark Warner Harry Reid Mary Landrieu Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Keystone Phil on December 05, 2004, 08:44:08 PM If a Democrat had to be President (scary thought isn't it? :P ) I wouldn't mind the following:
Mark Warner Evan Bayh John Breaux Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: The Dowager Mod on December 05, 2004, 08:45:37 PM Evan Bayh
Harry Reid Wesley Clark Tom Vilsack Bill Richardson Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Akno21 on December 05, 2004, 09:19:18 PM Evan Bayh
Bill Richardson Mark Warner Russ Feingold Tom Vilsack Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Keystone Phil on December 05, 2004, 09:33:19 PM If a Democrat had to be President (scary thought isn't it? :P ) I wouldn't mind the following: Mark Warner Evan Bayh John Breaux Didn't realize we had to list five so on top of those I have already listed, I would say... Ben Nelson (Yes, some people have suggested he might run) and Brad Henry. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: YRABNNRM on December 05, 2004, 10:19:57 PM Evan Bayh
John Breuax Bill Richardson Mark Warner Harold Ford Jr. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: George W. Bush on December 05, 2004, 10:48:13 PM Evan Bayh
Harry Reid Wesley Clark Mark Warner Howard Dean Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Platypus on December 06, 2004, 07:46:26 AM Joe Biden
Bill Richardson Bill Nelson Ed Rendell Tom Vilsack Could all win the big day. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: danwxman on December 06, 2004, 09:39:06 AM I'd love to see Biden run...again(?)
How old will be be in 2008? I think he'd make a great President. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Democratic Hawk on December 06, 2004, 11:27:19 AM Evan Bayh
Mark Warner John Breaux Tom Vilsack Harry Reid Dave Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Schmitz in 1972 on December 06, 2004, 06:59:59 PM If this refers to ones who have a chance of winning:
Clinton Bayh Richardson Warner Obama If this refers to ones I would like to see: Warner Zell Miller Ben Nelson Dave Freudenthal (WY governor) Anyone who can defeat Hillary in the primary Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Sarnstrom on December 06, 2004, 08:08:05 PM Russ Feingold
Hillary Clinton Ben Nelson Rod Blagojevich John Edwards Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: True Democrat on December 06, 2004, 08:31:43 PM Mark Warner
Evan Bayh Bill Richardson Rod Blagojevich Blanche Lincoln Mary Landrieu Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Defarge on December 06, 2004, 09:36:17 PM Evan Bayh
Bill Richardson Mark Warner Wesley Clark Ed Rendell Spitzer in '16. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 07, 2004, 06:12:05 AM Anyone who can defeat Hillary in the primary Agreed Hmm... I'd like to see a candidate who can appeal to rural and small town voters. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: AuH2O on December 07, 2004, 12:35:29 PM None of the moderates have a chance.
A lot of people want to be President though, so you can always count on a fair number testing the waters at least. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Ben. on December 07, 2004, 02:04:34 PM None of the moderates have a chance. Why? and can I have better argument than "the democratic party is dominated by liberals who don't care about winning"... Warner would have a very good chance at the nomination but I think he's more interested in running for the senate. Bayh has an excellent chance as does Vilsack, if he had another name I say that Vilsack had nearly as a good a shot as Evan Bayh but his name (stupid though it should seem) will scupper his hopes IMHO. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 07, 2004, 04:09:47 PM Warner
Obama Spitzer Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Ben. on December 08, 2004, 03:38:08 AM Mark Warner Evan Bayh Russ Feingold Ed Rendell Hillary Clinton Howard Dean Mary Landrieu Bill Nelson ...all these will be mentioned but i expect the field to be surprisingly small in terms of actual candidates, i doubt Nelson, Warner or Landrieu will run and i think if she does run Clinton will do badly and Evan Bayh will win, that’s not to dismiss her completely but that what i would anticipate happening. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: qwerty on December 08, 2004, 06:52:43 AM Your best chance:
Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: minionofmidas on December 08, 2004, 06:57:39 AM Your best chance: Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Math on December 08, 2004, 11:39:29 AM John Edwards
Evan Bayh Mark Warner Harold Ford Al Gore Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: J.R. Brown on December 08, 2004, 01:07:54 PM Joe Biden
Mark Warner Evan Bayh Bill Richardson Tom Vilsack Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Ben. on December 08, 2004, 01:53:52 PM Your best chance: Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Thats what i've been saying! As well as most of the Dems on the board but tell that to the folks in NH and IA :) Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Defarge on December 08, 2004, 10:21:15 PM Your best chance: Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Evan Bayh Thats what i've been saying! As well as most of the Dems on the board but tell that to the folks in NH and IA :) It's NH and alot of the other states we gotta worry about :( Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: King on December 09, 2004, 01:32:58 AM Evan Bayh
Bill Richardson Mark Warner Tom Vilsack John Breaux Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: opebo on December 09, 2004, 05:10:10 AM John Edwards Evan Bayh Mark Warner Harold Ford Al Gore I like your list, except Harold Ford couldn't win a general presidential election in the US - he's black. Well, maybe if we're in the middle of a depression or something, it could happen. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: qwerty on December 09, 2004, 07:33:55 AM Wake up - John Edwards has no shot! He's got no experiance in an executive position, and is way too liberal to win. You need to move closer to the center, and nominate a fresh face.
But that's only if you want to win. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: zachman on December 09, 2004, 04:41:18 PM I have two problems with Bayh, and they were some of the major problems that hurt Kerry. Firstly, Bayh isn't much of a senate leader. He doesn't have any major legislative acheivments. Secondly he is kind of dry. The Democrats need a candidate who can maximize those two traits.
Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: ThePrezMex on December 09, 2004, 07:03:25 PM Evan Bayh
Mark Warner Tom Vilsack Wesley Clark and the fifth, don't know: Hillary Clinton, Rod Blagojevich, Kathleen Sebelius. For those who mention that Bayh has the disadvantage of being a Senator, he was also a strong two term governor (Kerry wasn't). Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: ian on December 10, 2004, 11:57:37 PM Dick Gephardt
John Edwards Mary Landrieu Jennifer Granholm (if only the arnold amendment passed...) and, yeah, I'll go with Feingold I also like Chris Bell from Texas, and I really do think he could take the state. (I know, it's such a drastic statement, but I'll stick with it.) I also like Steny Hoyer, the house minority whip from MD. And Louisiana's own Chris John. Anybody but Bayh!!!!!! PLEASE!!! Oh and I like the Dean for DNC chair signature! ;) Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Ben. on December 11, 2004, 10:07:17 AM Dick Gephardt John Edwards Mary Landrieu Jennifer Granholm (if only the arnold amendment passed...) and, yeah, I'll go with Feingold I also like Chris Bell from Texas, and I really do think he could take the state. (I know, it's such a drastic statement, but I'll stick with it.) I also like Steny Hoyer, the house minority whip from MD. And Louisiana's own Chris John. Anybody but Bayh!!!!!! PLEASE!!! Oh and I like the Dean for DNC chair signature! ;) Gephardt is gone. John Edwards will be doing squat for four years and would have found it difficult in 2004 and would find it impossible after four years of doing nothing. Mary Landrieu, maybe but I don't think she wants it and some would argue she was lacking gravitas, Blanche Lincoln would be a better choice, if you where looking ofr a southern female candidate. Feingold is a guy I respect a great deal, but he is very liberal and would get battered by any credible GOP nominee, that said he wouldn't be as bad as Dean as he is far more disciplined. Bayh however is by far the best choice, his positions, his geographical location and his experience all fit perfectly... my only worry is he is slightly wooden but then again Kerry was far more staid and Bayh is far more folksy something Kerry could never be, added to which Bayh doesn't do things to look stupid like windsurfing or cycling in likera... he is the Dems best bet by far, he’s the only Democrat who would be the candidate the republican nominee would have to beat rather than vice versa… no other democrat can offer that. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Hitchabrut on December 11, 2004, 10:10:50 AM Zell Miller
Harry Reid Evan Bayh Joe Lieberman Ben Nelson Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Democratic Hawk on December 11, 2004, 11:34:46 AM Bayh however is by far the best choice, his positions, his geographical location and his experience all fit perfectly... my only worry is he is slightly wooden but then again Kerry was far more staid and Bayh is far more folksy something Kerry could never be, added to which Bayh doesn't do things to look stupid like windsurfing or cycling in likera... he is the Dems best bet by far, he’s the only Democrat who would be the candidate the republican nominee would have to beat rather than vice versa… no other democrat can offer that. I think Bayh would be a strong Democratic candidate in "red" states. He seems to be in touch with "Main Street" values He'd get a larger piece of the moderate vote than Kerry, as well as greater support among Republicans and conservatives; while being centrist enough not to turn off liberals He may need to raise his game in the Senate; though he does have a proven executive record as a two-term governor of Indiana - a job he would still hold if not for term limits Dave Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: zachman on December 11, 2004, 12:20:13 PM I hate to break it to you all again but Bayh is a serious and unaccomplished Senator.
Taking a lesson from 2004. We need a nominee who has acomplished something in their political career. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Michael Z on December 12, 2004, 05:28:38 PM Evan Bayh
Wesley Clark John Edwards Harold Ford Mark Warner Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: TheBulldog on December 13, 2004, 11:39:47 AM Bayh
Hillary Clark Edwards Warner If Hillary could win I would really support her. Otherwise we need someone electable. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: MaC on December 20, 2004, 10:38:58 PM Russ Feingold
Evan Bayh John Edwards Harold Ford Jr. Bill Richarson In no particular order. Bayh or Feingold would help secure more Mid-western votes. Although Feingold is a liberal, he could play the "return to civil liberties" card, since he was only senator to vote against it. John Edwards may have beaten Bush if the Dems nominated him, rather than Kerry. He's more charismatic than Kerry, he has a folksy appeal about him. Also he and Harold Ford are from the south and thus more likely to get some votes there. By now the Democrats should at least figure they need a moderate candidate to win. No chance for Hillary, or Gore, or Kerry. Dean would have a chance, if he wasn't known for the scream. Some reason the media took a bit of excitement and blew it way out of proportion. Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Democratic Hawk on December 23, 2004, 08:40:50 AM I hate to break it to you all again but Bayh is a serious and unaccomplished Senator. Bayh was a pretty accomplished, and popular, two term governor of Indiana. He saw Indiana through recession, without hiking taxes and balancing the budget Dave Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 23, 2004, 08:56:30 AM I've been thinking about it... and Bayh could be a very good pick. And for one reason:
To win back the White House, the Democrats need someone who can connect with Small Town voters (Bubba Clinton was very good at that. Neither Gore nor Kerry were any good at it and it cost them the top job) and Bayh's powerbase in Indiana is Small Town voters. And I have to admit that I'm biased towards people from coalfields ;-) Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: Dr. Cynic on December 23, 2004, 04:58:00 PM Evan Bayh
Ed Rendell John Edwards Wesley Clark Harry Reid Bill Richardson In no particular order..... Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: H. Ross Peron on February 25, 2015, 09:50:58 PM Mark Warner Evan Bayh Bill Richardson Rod Blagojevich Blanche Lincoln Mary Landrieu What an excellent list! Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: IceSpear on February 25, 2015, 10:23:38 PM Oh boy, how Atlas has changed...
LOL at all the Harry Reid mentions. Was this an actual thing back in 2004, or just an Atlas quirk? Title: Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats) Post by: morgieb on February 26, 2015, 08:22:54 PM John Edwards Evan Bayh Mark Warner Harold Ford Al Gore I like your list, except Harold Ford couldn't win a general presidential election in the US - he's black. Well, maybe if we're in the middle of a depression or something, it could happen. |