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Title: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 23, 2011, 10:15:03 PM
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Coming Soon: Madame President: Election Night 2012


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 24, 2011, 08:54:40 AM
Prologue:

On September 3rd, 2011 Sarah Palin announced her in front of a large crowd in Iowa that she was running for President of the United States. The announcement was seen a major boost to the Republican Field and she rocketed to the top tier of candidates. Her entry seemed to sideline Michele Bachmann, and in some polls she either tied or beat Rick Perry for second.

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Palin announces her campaign to a crowd of 10,000 people.

The pundits instantly jumped on the three person race to be the Anti-Romney and many analysts believed the nomination would go to Mitt Romney. Yet, Palin came out swinging and attacked all her opponents as being unable to defeat Obama, but specifically cited Romney.

"We don't need to nominate someone who is only pretending to be a conservative for political reasons. We need a true, red blooded conservative, not a RHINO!"

Palin's comments were seen as the first major attack on Romney's frontrunner status. The Romney camp did respond, but it was not one that was effective enough to derail Palin's RHINO remark. By ignoring all requests for interviews with the three major networks Palin focused on the debate. All eyes were on the September 7th debate, which included Perry and Palin.

The first victim of the night was Rick Perry. He was first questioned on his secessionist remark, which he tried to backtrack as a joke, but it seemed to fall flat. He was later questioned on this thoughts on social security and how he described it as unconstitutional.

Perry: I said those thoughts once, I've changed my mind.
Anchor: These comments were in your book "Fed Up".
Perry: Well, these comments, eh, my books are merely ways to stir a conversation.
Anchor: So you don't stand by what's in your book?
Perry:    I believe we have to make changes to our entitlements.
Anchor: But do you believe social security is unconstitutional?
Perry:    In its present form, yes.
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Perry's end.

With Perry sidelined Sarah Palin came out as the winner. She spent the night effectively dodging gotcha questions, while presenting herself as the candidate that could beat Obama and the true conservative. Mitt Romney for the first time was attacked and Palin seemed to be leading the charged.

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Palin asserts her as the frontrunner.

She criticized him on the Romneycare/Obamacare similarities and said, "It's hard to sometimes distinguish who is Mitt and who's Obama." The line drew a laugh from the audience and Romney continued to make his state's rights line, but it did not seem to be as effective, for Palin attacked him for the mandate part of his reform.

As the march towards Iowa began Sarah Palin conducted a series of interviews with all major networks, where she reaffirmed her positions and answered as to why she left the governorship. When pressed by Diane Sawyer.
Sawyer If she were elected and it became to intense or stressful, would you resign the Presidency?
Palin    No, and here's why Diane. First off, my term in Alaska was nearing an end, and I did not want to punish the people of Alaska why a needless investigation and such. Now I've said that, but on the presidency of course not. I would not resign. There's a mamma grizzly in me and I want to fight for this country and if given the opportunity to serve this country I would. Now what I will say is that I will not make a pledge to serve a second term. 
Sawyer Elaborate?
Palin Look at President Obama, he should have been focused on the economy and should still be, instead of reelection. Frankly, I don't know why he is running for reelection.
Sawyer Governor, you negatives are higher than your positives and many people, even republican have said they would never vote you and can't win. What is your response to that?
Palin First, I believe I can beat Pres. Obama if I am the nominee and second, many thought that about Ronald Reagan. Now I'm trying to make me out to be Reagan's heir, for no one could replace or replicate that great man, but I do see the comparisons. People thought he knew nothing. People thought he couldn't be elected. Well, he won two landslide victories.

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Palin with Sawyer.

GOP Nomination Polling:
Romney: 22%
Palin:      21%
Perry:     16%
Bachmann: 13%
Paul:           10%
Cain:             8%
Huntsman:   4%
Gingrich:       3%
Santorum:    1%

With Palin's entrance Bachmann became yesterdays news and The Tea Party Queen effectively ended the coverage and focus on her. Now over the course of the months leading up to Iowa the President saw an uptick his popularity. As the unemployment rate slowly dropped  public confidence was restored. And, by January the unemployment rate hit 8.5% which the Administration hailed as a victory.
"Recovery has begun!" -Obama

2012 Polling:
Palin vs. Obama
Obama 54%
Palin      39%

Romney vs. Obama
Romney 46%
Obama 46%

When the Iowa caucuses came Sarah Palin won the first caucuses by a wider than expected margin and the rest they say was history. A late resurgent Cain came up from behind and sidelined Bachmann.

IOWA:
Palin:  34%
Cain:   20%
Bachmann: 19%
Perry:         11%
Romney:     10%
Other:          6%

A few week later Romney managed to pullout a win in New Hampshire, though Palin came in a surprising second. Most pundits figured she'd loses New Hampshire and by a large margin, but he narrow loss reaffirmed her as a serious player for the nomination.

New Hampshire:
Romney: 34%
Palin:      31%
Romney wins, but Palin remains

The media effectively painted the race as a Romney-Palin match. With Rick Perry bowing out, as well as Gingrich, Huntsman, and Santorum. Only Bachmann, Cain and Paul remained to challenge Romney and Palin. Yet the two candidates could not get much media coverage.

Despite wins for Romney in Michigan and Nevada, Palin won the prized endorsement of Nikki Haley in South Carolina and then went onto carry the state overwhelming. Though Romney came in second his place was downplayed as Bachmann came in less than a point behind him.

Those of the left applauded Palin's victories as while never disclosed publicly, everyone knew The White House wanted to face Palin. The GOP establishment was shaky, with an economy on the road to recovery and a President regaining public trust the last thing they wanted to do was nominate someone who could produce the biggest loss for the Republicans since Barry Goldwater.

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Rove offers his perspective.

Karl Rove said on Fox and Friends, "Gov. Palin can fire up the base and present the conservative case, but what I fear as do many Republicans is that we're looking at a loss of epic proportions if she's the nominee. A Barry Goldwater rerun if you will."

Palin attacked Rove for his comments and continued her crusade as a populist candidate, one outside the Washington beltway and away from the establishment. "Come November we're going to shakeup that town, because America we're taking our country back!"

Though Romney held onto hope for Super Tuesday he received the final nail in his coffin. Right before the contests her former running mate John McCain announced that he would be supporting Gov. Palin for the Republican nomination.

"She the voice of our party. She reflects the concerns of millions of Americans. She's a champion and fighter my friends, and someone I deeply respect. My friends our next President, Sarah Palin!"
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McCain makes his endorsement of his former Vice Presidential nominee.

McCain's endorsement gave a great bounce to the Palin campaign and she practically swept the contests on Super Tuesday, though narrowly in some places, Romney knew to save face, and possibly for a shot at the VP nod he would step outside, despite calls for him to fight all the way to the convention.

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Romney and Palin campaign in Florida together, following his endorsement of her.

After Palin secured the nomination the Democratic National Committee began a full on attack of Palin. Citing her record as governor, her resignation and as an extremist. Palin waisted no time and returned fire on the Obama campaign, but luck seemed to be on the President's side. With the economy recovering and unemployment at 8.1% by June, many pundits saw Palin's campaign as a nonstarter.

A projected electoral map did not paint a pretty picture for the Governor and many GOP establishment figures began to fret over the Palin candidacy.

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Obama: 330
Palin:     149
Tossup:   59

However the GOP establishment wouldn't have to fret for much long, as the GOP convention neared an uptick in unemployment was seen and the stock market took its biggest hit since 2008, prompting fears of recession. What would ensure would abate GOP fears of an Palin defeat, and elevate a Palin win.




Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 24, 2011, 09:44:36 AM
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Continue :)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 24, 2011, 11:40:02 AM
So does Obama eat a kitten?


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Del Tachi on August 24, 2011, 12:50:30 PM
This is great, please continue!

I'd like to see these names up for Veepstakes
--Jeb Bush of Florida
--George Pataki of New York
--Scott Brown of Massachusetts
--Jon Huntsman of Utah


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: sentinel on August 24, 2011, 01:00:56 PM


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 24, 2011, 02:47:17 PM
I have trouble seein Palin, Perry, and Bachmann in one race. If this does happen, Bachmann or Perry would be forced to drop out, and Cain, Paul, Huntsman, and Romney would have the most to gain, way more then 6%.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NCeriale on August 24, 2011, 03:03:35 PM
I imagine the bottom is going to fall out


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 24, 2011, 03:44:33 PM
July:
Obama vs. Palin
Obama 55%
Palin       37%

Most pundits predicted a Palin defeat similar to Barry Goldwater in 1964, or perhaps George McGovern in 1972. Palin kept a low profile in the weeks leading up the convention, but a list did leaked out potential vice presidential nominees, which caused speculations among Washington circles. The Palin campaign offered no comment on the list, and reporters began following the prospective candidates.

George Pataki:
Scott Brown
Jon Huntsman
Jeb Bush
Rick Perry
Tim Pawlenty
Olympia Snowe
Bob McDonald
Chris Christie
Mitt Romney

On MSNBC's Hardball, commentator Chris Matthews offered his thoughts on the leaked Veepstakes list.

Matthews I think if anything the majority of this list is lip service. I think she'll narrow it down to a Tim Pawlenty, maybe a Huntsman or even a Snowe. All of them seem like perfectly acceptable choices to moderate Palin's ticket. Let's turn to Michael Steele, former head of the RNC. Michael who's gonna be the nominee?
Steele I honestly wish I knew Chris. This list certainly has a lot of potential who would add a great balance to the ticket. I don't think Christie or McDonald will accept it and I don't think Bush will either. I think you right Huntsman be a great pick, as would Pawlenty, but the name you and many are skipping over is Scott Brown. I think he'd be a great balance to the ticket and he could help swing a state like New Hampshire.
Matthews She's not going to carry New Hampshire. She minds well pick Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry, because there's no way she's gonna win this thing. Not with those numbers.
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As July slowly became August the unemployment numbers started to rise once more and the markets simply chugged along. The White House continued to comment that recoveries always take time and what we are experiencing is part of the recovery.

At a speech in Iowa Palin chided Obama for his failure on the economy and stated, "This economy is going to continue to spiral out of control, because of the failed policies of this President. When I'm in the Oval Office I will repeal the job killing law, Obamacare and I will see that the private sector thrives once again. His concern is for the public sector, government jobs, I'm concerned with your jobs!"
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Sarah Palin agreed to a 60 Minutes Interview, in which she talked about her faith, her family, her politics and the main differences between her and Obama. In the interview Palin commented on the leaked list and cited that she would have her choice revealed shortly.

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Palin narrows the Veepstakes list.

By the middle of August three names appeared to be in the running for Vice President.
Scott Brown
Tim Pawlenty
Olympia Snowe

Also, during this time a new poll was released showing that Palin's chances against Obama had improved as the economy began to slip and his approval ratings dipped back into the low forties.

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Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 50%
Palin 43%

Mitt Romney commented on the Presidential race on the eve of Palin's Vice Presidential Announcement. He stated that he was not the pick, but was confident in Palin's pick. When asked if he would be interested in a role in a potential Palin Administration Romney did not say no to the idea.

As media coverage fell onto the states of Maine, Massachusetts and Minnesota, all three potential candidates were mum, but when pressed Olympia Snowe stated she was not going to be the nominee. "Sorry to upset you."

On August 24th, Palin headed to Florida for her big revelation. The media kept their eyes on Scott Brown and Tim Pawlenty, but both never left there respective states. By ten am, an hour before the announcement Palin leaked that the list originally leaked was not the finalized list. A finalized list came out that included some different names:

1. Marco Rubio
2. Kelly Ayotte
3. Jon Huntsman
4. George Pataki
5. (TBD)

However at the announcement rally most expected to see Marco Rubio emerge as the pick, given that Palin headed to Florida for her announcement. But, Rubio was not the pick nor the three other people on the list.

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Palin makes her announcement....

At 11:00 Sarah Palin introduced her Vice Presidential pick. "The next Vice President of these United States Governor...."


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 24, 2011, 03:45:13 PM
I imagine the bottom is going to fall out

You imagine correctly. ;)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on August 24, 2011, 03:52:21 PM
I actually think Judd Gregg would be a good pick.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 24, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
I'd like you feedback on possible VP picks. Place your pick and I'll take your considerations.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Vosem on August 24, 2011, 04:24:04 PM
Jim Edgar! Experience, respect, dark-horse maverickyness, from a liberal state in a swing region with moderate-to-conservative views that can please Jon Huntsman, Steve King, and everyone in between.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NCeriale on August 24, 2011, 05:22:56 PM
I think Huntsman is the smartest pick. He levels out the Palin ticket, will help her recultivate the image she had in Alaska, maybe pivot to the center.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 24, 2011, 08:52:26 PM
Huntsman or Brown..But I have a hunch it will be Rick Scott ;)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Del Tachi on August 24, 2011, 09:09:20 PM
Huntsman moderate positions and foreign policy credentials make him perfect for Palin.

OTTL, I think if someone like Bachmann or Perry get the nom in 2012 and polls show Obama with a big led, then Hunstman is gonna kill for the VP slot.  Why?  Its keeps in him the public eye and puts him at the top of the pack for 2016, which is what Huntsman really wants--not 2012.

Also a VP debate featuring the former Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Cmte and the former Ambassador of China is blockbuster material...well, for me at least. 


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 25, 2011, 08:17:07 AM
Palin Pivots to the Center

Sarah Palin announced to a large crowd of 15,000 people that she had selected former governor of Utah, Jon Huntsman as her running mate.

"He has a vast knowledge of experience when it comes to foreign affairs, particularly when dealing with China. His opinion is something I will value in the White House. He is an honest man, a man of principle and a man I want by my side as we take on Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Ladies and gentle the next Vice President of these United States, Gov. Jon Huntsman!" 

"I am honored to be asked by Gov. Palin to serve this country. Now we have our differences sure and she respects that, as I respect her views. Together I believe we will see this country through the economic storm and carry her back with your help to a place of pristine glory. Now I am aware that some are wary, for me having served with this President, but let me say this: Politics ends on election day. If you love this country you serve her. I served proudly then as Ambassador to China under a Democratic President and I will proudly serve her under a Republican President."

Huntsman's pick was seen as a masterful stroke by Palin who looked to move towards the center and attract more moderate and independent voters away from Barack Obama. Of the final five choices Huntsman was deemed by the media to be the strongest and wisest pick.

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Palin and Huntsman at an event in New Hampshire.

It was eventually revealed that Mitch Daniels was the fifth person added to the list. However Gov. Daniels declined, citing that he did not have the full backing of his family. Pundits also saw Huntsman as taking advantage of his situation. If elected he would elevate his name and would be a strong candidate for his party's nomination down the road.

With the Huntsman pick shaking up the race The President looked to regain the momentum amid the Republican Convention. As the unemployment rate saw an uptick once more and his approval ratings drop to the low forties he unleashed Joe Biden, who at a campaign stop in Michigan blasted Jon Huntsman for running with Palin.

"Come on folks we're smarter than this and he ought to know better. Here's a nice guy from a small state, given the chance to work with Barack Obama in post partisan manner and yet he turns his back and runs for President, and when that blows up in his face he runs for Vice President. Jon Huntsman doesn't care about America, he cares about his political career!"

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Biden blasting Huntsman on the stump.

Biden's comments received immediate attention and scorn from people on both side, and while the Palin campaign issued a statement, Huntsman refused to attack Biden, only saying: "I look forward to our debate, Mr. Vice President."

On the first night of the Republican Convention Mitt Romney gave a speech praising by Gov. Palin and Gov. Huntsman and attacking Barack Obama. "We love this land. We know we can do better and we will with Sarah Palin and Jon Huntsman!"
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Also on that night Sen. John McCain and Michele Bachmann and Laura Bush all gave speeches praising Sarah Palin. The night was deemed to be a success, especially with a new poll released that showed Palin gaining traction as the economy began to slip.

Palin vs. Obama:
Obama 49%
Palin   45%

On the second night Rudy Giuliani delivered a speech that chided Pres. Obama for his handling of the economy and even criticized him on his dealing with foreign affairs.
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"Osama Bin Laden is dead, thank goodness, but is our world secure? How has President done in dealing with Iran? Failed. How has this President done with North Korea? Failed. The President got Bin Laden and I am glad for that, but on the whole he has failed in the area of foreign policy and that my friends needs to change!"

Yet the speech that was seen as the highlight of the second night was the keynote speech given by Marco Rubio, which only reaffirmed his status as a rising star in The Republican Party and eventually Vice President or even President down the line. He introduced himself to the national stage in a way similar to Barack Obama in 2004.
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"...This President loves America, I have no doubt of that. What I do doubt are his policies for America. I'm going to ask a question and I'm sure of what the response will be, but I'm going to ask it anyways. Are we as a country better off than we were for years ago? (NO!) I believe in change, let there be no mistake of that, but I believe in the right change, conservative change. Change that adheres to the Constitution, changes that respects the traditions of this great land. Change that is wanted by all the American people. If you reach the same conclusion as I have we cannot elect Barack Obama to another term in office, we need new ideas, new energies and new leadership in the Oval Office! America will continue to be the greatest country on the face of the earth, but only with a new President can we truly reaffirm her greatness."

By the third night the convention hall was buzzing and when Jon Huntsman finally took the stage to accept the nomination for Vice President he delivered a home run. The crowd went wild as the moderate Republican seem to appeal to the better angels and in a sense reaffirm the voice of moderation in the Republican party that had been missing.

"...We are a party of big ideas, not pale pastels as a great man once said. A big tent party that is inclusive, not exclusive. We have our differences on matters of policies, on matters of politics, but one thing is certain: We love this country. We proudly serve her, and not for political reason, but for the good of the country! I love America and I am deeply and profoundly honored to serve her once more. I accept your nomination for Vice President and accept the call to serve with the next President of the United States, Sarah Palin!"

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Huntsman's speech was seen 37 million people.

On the last night Bristol Palin, along side her brothers and sister and father introduced Sarah Palin as a hockey mom and a mamma grizzly who was ready to bring the right change to Washington.
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Palin accepted her party's nomination and proclaimed loudly that she would be the next President of the United States. "Sometimes we have to take a different course. We can't always turn to Washington to solve our problems. Now Alaska can't be seen from the White House, but we can see everything from up there and frankly it's time to make that city reflective of all the small towns and places across this blessed  land. Pres. Obama sees America not as we do. This country is a shining city on a hill and we will see that she remains it, and if you give me the chance to serve as your President I will honor you trust so help me God!"
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Palin was speech was seen a record setting 42 million people.

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The Convention following Palin's acceptance.

The result from the convention was a refreshened image of Sarah Palin. One that had not been seen since the early days of the 2008 campaign. The woman once the blunt of jokes and scorn was now her party's nominee and the first woman to be nominated by a major party. Democrats waisted no time in attack Palin who received a large boost from the convention, in most polls she was behind Obama by only two or three points, and some polls have her tied with him.



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 25, 2011, 08:34:06 AM
With Palin gaining more ground by the day The Democrats headed into their convention amid a shaky economy, that many economist were now saying border-lined on recession. The President sealed himself off on the week of the convention, concentrating on his speech and the economy. Yet, no one would be prepared for what was to come next...
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"Yes, it is historic, but we must remember that she is not running as a woman for President, but a Republican woman for President. There's a difference."

The DNC chair's comments were immediately lambasted by the Palin campaign with Palin tweeting, "This is what's wrong with Washington, plain and simple. I'm proud to be a conservative woman and I honored to be running as a woman for President of the United States. Ms. Wasserman-Schultz needs to comeback from the stone ages and look at her own position."

Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 48%
Palin   46%

The week of the Democratic Convention Chris Matthews found himself in hot water over a comment he made, regarding the Palin candidacy.
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"The only reason this woman is doing well in the polls is because the economy is tanking. People are frustrated with the economy so there voting on a referendum on the economy not the President and this woman seems to be collecting the reward. In any other circumstances Pres. Obama would be crushing this woman, but the only saying, it's the economy stupid is coming into play and stupid is collecting the reward."

Rather than issue a statement condemning the attack, Palin' campaign manager stated, "Gov. Palin will be addressing the matter on women in politics when speaks in New Hampshire tomorrow."

Palin was greeted by a large crowd in the Granite State, along side Sen. Kelly Ayotte who introduced her. In the speech Palin tried to bring some light on the importance of her candidacy, and that with her election America would transcend boundaries once thought immovable. She talked of the many women candidates who dared to run and had gotten so close, but never reached the finish line. Palin promised that she would do so. "I'm running for the daughters, the mothers, the sisters of today, and I'm running for those women of tomorrow. American has done many things, we're not ashamed to try and once more we will do it again."
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Palin's speech in New Hampshire received even more praise than her convention speech.

New Hampshire Polling:
Obama 50%
Palin   49%

With Palin gaining more ground by the day The Democrats headed into their convention amid a shaky economy, that many economist were now saying border-lined on recession. The President sealed himself off on the week of the convention, concentrating on his speech and the economy. Yet, no one would be prepared for what was to come next...

Projected Map: Updated
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Obama 257
Palin  200
Tossup     81

Key States:
Ohio
Obama 48%
Palin   48%

Florida
Palin 47%
Obama 47%

Pennsylvania
Obama 50%
Palin   48%

Nevada
Palin 49%
Obama 48%

Colorado
Palin 50%
Obama 46%

North Carolina
Palin 47%
Obama 47%

Virginia
Obama 48%
Palin   47%

Obama vs. Palin
Obama 47.9%
Palin   46.5%

Obama Approval Ratings:
Approve: 41%
Disapprove: 56%

Palin Favorable Ratings: (2011, entry into race)
Approve: 39%
Disapprove: 59%

Palin Favorable Ratings: (2012, pre-convention)
Approve: 41%
Disapprove: 55%

Palin Favorable Ratings: 2012, post-convention)
Approve: 48%
Disapprove: 50%

The Democratic Convention:
With his approval ratings around forty four percent Barack Obama headed into the last night of his convention following a week so-so speeches. Perhaps the highlight of the convention was the keynote speech given by Andrew Cuomo. He proved himself to be a rising star in the party and a contender for 2016.

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"Sarah Palin is trying to turn America back. Turn America back to a forgotten era, a long forgotten era, one that seems so long ago, yet was only four years ago my friends. The America she sees is not the one we all see. It is an America of inequality, stagnant economy and taxes for the rich. That's not America, that's not my American, it's not your America, it's not our America!"

In Obama's speech praised Palin for her accomplishment as a woman in politics, but criticized her for lacking the experience needed to be President.
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"...There are those who have criticized me for being a little wet behind the ears when I took office, but hey I think we've done alright. We could of had had a depression, we stopped it. America is slowly going back to work and our economy is growing. Now I could have given up and said I quit, but I've stayed the course and America is the better for it. We don't give in or give up. If it gets tough we don't stop, because that's not what America is about..."

Obama seemed to regain some momentum from his convention, especially when it came to the mantle of experience, something he couldn't run on four years earlier.

Headlines following his speech:
Politico: "Obama Hits Palin on Experience"
Wall Street Journal: "We could of"; Obama comes out swinging.
New York Times:    "The Gloves are off!"

Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 48.9%
Palin   45.0%

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Obama 270
Palin   200
Tossup        68

Key States:
Ohio
Obama 49.0%
Palin   48.9%

Georgia
Palin 50.3%
Obama 47.7%

Nevada
Obama 48%
Palin   48%

North Carolina
Obama 49.11%
Palin   49.09%

Obama Approval Ratings:
Approve: 45%
Disapprove: 50%







Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 25, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
The First Presidential Debate took place at St. Anselm's College in New Hampshire. The focus of the debate was on Foreign Policy. Obama seemed to have the advantage over Palin, but she managed to avoid making any gaffes and stuck to her talking points, especially when it came to jabbing at Obama on matters such as Libya.
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"Mr. President, I have to ask as many of Americans do, what was our reason for getting involved in Libya. Was it as matter of national security?
 
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"Sarah, Gaddafi's regime has fallen,"

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"Well, last time I checked he's still alive, Mr. President.

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"But his regime has fallen, the Libyian people have risen up and taken control. Gaddafi will eventually be found, but the point is he's out of power."

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"Well Mr. President you haven't answered my question on what's our mission there. Are we nation building, is it regime change? Mr. President what's going on?

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"Governor, with all due respect you don't decide foreign policy, you don't set the agenda. I do, alright."

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"Well, I am vying for that job Mr. President."

The debate was lively civil, save for Palin and Obama's exchange over Libya. The President was largely seen as the winner of the debate, but Palin did prove she was a tough fighter and did not self implode as many pundits predicted.

Headlines the following day:
Politico: "Palin lives another day"
Wall Street Journal: "I'm vying for that job"
New York Times:     "Obama Maintains Lead; Palin fights"

Who won the First Presidential Debate?
Obama 40%
Palin   29%

Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 49%
Palin   45%

Is Gov. Sarah Palin qualified to be President?
Yes: 44%
No:  49%

The one and only Vice Presidential Debate took place at the University of Mississippi between Vice President Joe Bide and Republican Vice Presidential Nominee Jon Huntsman. The content ranged from foreign to domestic policy. Huntsman cited his experience as Ambassador to China would help in dealing with foreign affairs. While, Biden cited the victories the Obama Administration had made in the area of foreign matters.

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"Bin Laden is dead. The wars are coming to an end, slowly, but they are coming to an end. Now Barack- Pres. Obama has had to make some of the most crucial decisions since Franklin Roosevelt in my opinion and he has displayed tremendous courage and experience."

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"Mr. Vice President, I don't question or discredit Pres. Obamas' accomplishments. I applaud him for the death of Bin Laden, but it goes beyond it sir. The wars have increased, this President promised to end them. This President promised an end to cowboy style diplomacy and he's only continued it with nation building in Libya-"

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"Mr. Huntsman--"

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"Please sir, let me finish. Iran is closer to obtaining a nuclear bomb, and China, probably the most important of all foreign matters, this President has been flat footed. I was there from 2009 until 2011 and let me tell you something and the American people. They are confident in that country. They believe they're the best and sure they've achieved success, but a lot of it was in part due to us. They steal our intellectual property, they manipulate their currency, their human rights are deplorable and yet we've done nothing. We're letting them gain ground and if the trend continues they'll surpass us as the number one economy and frankly I don't see that as a good thing. This is the greatest nation that ever was, and under a Palin Administration there will be no second rate economy for the United States of America. It's time we got serious about China, and with Pres. Palin we'll do it."

Biden attempted to rebut Huntsman, but ended up making a major gaffe which handed the debate to the former Utah Governor. The Vice President became flustered in his speech and referred to China as having "human rights that aren't perfect, but are better than some places."

Huntsman took that moment to finish Biden, "Mr. Vice President their one child policy, their lack of religious freedom or freedom of the press, an abandonment of legal rights, sir if you say that their humans rights aren't perfect, that's an understatement. I have some experience on China as I've stated and Mr. Vice President I am astonished by your statement. China has modeled some of their success after capitalism, but they are not on par with the United States. If they model their human rights after the United States then things maybe a little more on par."

Who won the Vice Presidential Debate?
Huntsman 59%
Biden 37%

Following the Vice Presidential Debate a major blow was rendered to the Obama campaign, the Supreme Court finally ruled on the Health Care Legislation, also known as Obamacare. The Court ruled the mandate portion of the law as unconstitutional, but let the rest of the law stand.

Palin Tweeted:One win for the American people and come January we will begin the process to fully repeal the job killing bill Obamacare!

Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 49%
Palin   47%

Palin was gaining ground and Obama seemed to be stalled. With his approvals still in the low forties and the economy heading towards the brink of recession he looked to pull out all stops and reverse the decline of his campaign and presidency...



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: zorkpolitics on August 25, 2011, 09:44:37 PM
You left out a post convention bounce for Obama, that is pretty common.
But so far great timeline keep it up!


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 26, 2011, 07:11:46 AM
Thanks for catching me on the Democratic Convention. Has been added to second post on this page.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 26, 2011, 02:56:46 PM
Fantastic timeline! A great read! I can't wait to see how it progresses. Say, if Palin wins the Presidency, does Ron Paul get a cabinet position? ;)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 26, 2011, 04:16:44 PM
Fantastic timeline! A great read! I can't wait to see how it progresses. Say, if Palin wins the Presidency, does Ron Paul get a cabinet position? ;)

We'll see...


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 26, 2011, 10:07:23 PM
As Palin and Obama prepared for the second presidential debate; a town hall style format at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee the financial markets took the biggest hit since 2008. Investors panicked and the great intensity arose around the nation.

Headlines:
Politico: "Market's Big Plunge, Will Obama feel it?"
New York Times: Worst Day for Wall Street Since '08
Wall Street Journal: "Nightmare on Wall Street"

Palin was quick to respond following the hit on wall street and tweeted: "November 6th cannot come fast enough!"

Obama took a hit for the market's fall, and with a barrage of campaign ad attacking him from different groups his approval rating dipped to 37%. He went into the debate hoping to regain the momentum from  Palin. He had been dealt a blow with his Health Care Law and now on the economy. An off the cuff remark he made while at a fundraiser had him saying, "I can't catch a break, somedays I think one is enough, but then I look at the republicans and I say Barack you've got to run!"

Palin was largely seen as the frontrunner going into the debate and Obama liked that opportunity, hoping to play himself as the underdog and win on his efforts and progress that had been made since 2009. Chris Matthews' commentary seemed to sum up the mood of liberals everywhere:

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Matthews: Let me finish tonight with the Presidential debate in Nashville. Tonight The President's got to be Superman, not Batman. He's got to steal the show, not hide in the shadows waiting for the right moment. That worked during the primary, this is the big leagues now and his future and presidency is on the line. He's got to nail her on quitting the governorship, He's got to nail her experience. He cannot dance around it. She's attacking him, he's got to fight back. Don't think about her a woman and her feelings will get hurt. She's in this race. She toppled Mitt Romney, she's taken on the big boys in her own state, she endured the gaffes of 2008 and here she is on the cusps of history. If he doesn't act the initials P.P. will be short for President Palin. That's Hardball, I'm Chris Matthews...more politics ahead with Al Sharpton.

The Second Debate got out to a rousing start with the first question being about the Supreme Court's ruling on the Mandate portion of Obamacare. Gov. Palin responded to the question and took great delight in answering it.

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"I'm rather shocked, not on the ruling, but on the lack of foresight from the President. For a Constitutional lawyer I would have expected that to of been a red flag. Mandates are wrong, they are unconstitutional and the ruling by the supreme court illustrates boldly what is wrong with this piece of legislation. It will not stand and when I'm President we will repeal it."

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"Sarah I know this is like Christmas to you and all conservatives out there,

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"And to most Americans,"

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(Chuckles) "The fact is the law was not overturned and what we did is historic. No more will people say of America, everyone doesn't have health insurance. People like it. I'm proud and I won't run away from it.

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"Mr. President, only about 35% of Americans favor the law, so I would not call it liked. Now I'm not for saying you can't have health insurance, I am against this law which will bankrupt America. It is another entitlement we cannot afford to take on."

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"There you go, trying to take that line that every republican has spun, oh it's socialism oh it's bankrupting us. Sarah, that old yarn isn't going to fly anymore."

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"I'm for market based solutions, letting the people have involvement and choice in their coverage, not a government plan, a one size fits all, b/c everyone is not the same Mr. President and that is what the difference is here. I believe in the individual, and if I may, I've had the respect to address you not as Barack, but as Mr. President and do wish you'd show me the same respect, instead of addressing me as Sarah in a belittling tone."

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"If you think that was belittling, I'm sorry but you're going to have to get over this thin skinned appetite if you want to hold this job, and on the issue of governor, you were governor, but then you quit, but if it satisfies you I'll address you as Governor from now on."

Who won the Second Presidential  Debate?
Palin 46%
Obama 45%

Is Gov. Sarah Palin Qualified to be President?
Yes: 47%
No:  49%

Obama's last remark seemed to draw some criticism from all side, with many saying that he appeared condescending towards Palin and that his remarks with over the line. Karl Rove offered a blasting response of the President's performance in the debate on the O'Reilly Factor.

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Rove: The President is scared when he has to start attacking Gov. Palin in a demeaning manner. There is political attacks and then there is getting up in your face attacks. The President knows he's losing and is doing everything he can to destroy and discredit this woman in order for him to cross the finish line, and Bill latest Rasmussen Polling had Palin up by one, 48-47, so I'd be concentrating on fixing the economy instead of attacking Gov. Palin."

It wasn't just Rasmussen's poll that had Palin up by one, most polls now had Palin in the lead with just three weeks to go until election day. On Meet the Press David Axelrod hoped to dispel the notion of Palin leading and retrain the focus on Obama.
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Axelrod: "I think people will go to the polls on November 6th and they're going to ask themselves two things, is America on the road to recovery and who do we trust? The economy is shaky, but it is recovering and this little blip we've seen

Gregory: Unemployment does stand at 8.5% right now, do you attest to that as the economy is recovering?

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Axelrod: "Recoveries take time, but to finish, on the second question they will say do we want a woman who left the governorship to purse personal success, or someone who has stayed the course and prevented a second great depression. I think the answer will be quite clear. Barack Obama must be reelected."

Obama vs. Palin:
Palin 48.5%
Obama 47.7%

Projected Map:

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Obama 231
Palin   200
Tossup: 107

Key States:
Ohio
Palin 48%
Obama 48%

New Hampshire
Obama 49%
Palin   48%

Nevada
Obama 48%
Palin   48%

Virginia
Palin  49%
Obama 49%

Florida
Palin 48%
Obama 48%

Colorado
Palin 50%
Obama      46%

Missouri
Palin  51%
Obama 47%

North Carolina
Palin 48%
Obama 48%

Michigan
Obama 50%
Palin   48%

Wisconsin
Obama 50%
Palin   46%








Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 27, 2011, 05:27:12 PM
The third and final Presidential debate took place at the University of Tampa campus, and both campaign saw it as make or break moments for the election. Obama and Palin were essentially tied in all polls and with the economy weakening some saw it as Palin's election to lose, so she knew expectations would be extremely high. She had done well in the second debate and needed to exceed that performance.

On the day of the debate Huntsman made headlines following a confrontation with a voter at a town hall in New Hampshire. The voter criticized Huntsman and Palin for supporting an agenda that would favor the rich and punish the poor. Huntsman waisted no time in responding, following the interruption.  

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"Ma'am please understand something, we're not running to give tax breaks to the rich, the rich in this country need to pull their share as well, however I know they'll take care of themselves. It's the middle class that we're concerned about and the terrible truth is President has seemingly forgotten the middle class. I know I won't, I know Pres. Palin won't."

The voter interrupted, "She doesn't even know Africa is a continent, how can you honestly run with her and believe she is qualified to be President?

Huntsman responded, "Because she has more experience than this President had when he took the office. She's been a mayor, a regulator of gas and oil, a governor. She took on people in her own party, she has a steel spine, unlike this President."

The day of the debate David Plouffe was interviewed by a local TV station in Ohio, in which he was asked about the unemployment rate, which stood at 8.5%.
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"The American people don't care about it. It's just a number, it shouldn't matter. The American people need to look at where we were and where we are."

Going into the debate Palin and Obama were essentially tied in the polls,
Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 48%
Palin   48%

The debate focused extensively on the economy and domestic affairs. Palin chided Obama on his failure on the growing national debt and the unemployment rate. Obama stayed away from criticizing Palin throughout much of the debate, wanting to appear as a statesman; presenting his case for why he deserved to be reelected.

Yet the debate turned tense when Obama was questioned on the unemployment rate.
Moderator: "Mr. President, your senior advisor and campaign strategist David Plouffe said today and I quote "The American people don't care about it. It's just a number, it shouldn't matter. The American people need to look at where we were and where we are." Do you agree with his statement?

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"Look what advisors or spouses say on the campaign trail is not the same as coming from the candidate's mouth.

Moderator: Do you agree with assessment Mr. President?

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"I will say this, it is a number that reflects how much more we still have to do, but we've made progress, America is on the road to to recovery."

Moderator: Governor Palin, your response?

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"Say it ain't so Mr. President, there you go again. Not answering the question. The trouble is when you took office unemployment stood at 7.7% and it has not been that since. You said if your stimulus package was passed unemployment would not go above 8%, Mr. President it has been all over the map. It's done everything, but go down."

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"Governor, a year ago this time we still had it at 9%, so I would call it an improvement. It's not perfect, but it is dropping."

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"I give it to you, it has dropped, but what have we seen it, over the last few months it has slowly crept up again, and now it's at 8.5% and my fear is it will continue to go higher if we continue your policies."

Moderator: "I'm sorry governor but your time is-"

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"I know, but if I may just say this, in response to the first question. Yes, unemployment numbers do matter Mr. President, because there are snippets of the millions of America who are out of work and I find it insulting that you will not condone a statement by your own staff, or just admit yourself that unemployment rates matter, because they do Mr. President, they do!"

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Now, I'm going to have to respond to this, Governor Palin but-

Moderator: "I'm sorry but we need to move on."

The debate pretty much returned to the talking points from both campaigns and no major gaffes occurred. The debates were all seen by a record number of people, the most was the final debate, having been seen by a record 63.4 million people.

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"...Four years ago America was hurting. Our economy was on the verge of depression, but we stopped it. We still have more to do, so I ask for your vote and belief in me, because I know together we can go forward and accomplish all we set out to do. Thank you and Good night."

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"...America is hurting. I've seen it as I go across this great land and it pains me to see the greatest country on earth settle for mediocrity. High unemployment rates and stagnant economies don't have to be the wave of the future. We can reverse the era of decline and bring America back and make her once more a shining city on the hill. I believe in her goodness and in the goodness of you the people, I ask for you vote and help to forge a new beginning. I thank you and May God Bless you and the United States."

Who won the Final Presidential Debate?
Palin 49%
Obama 46%

Is Gov. Sarah Palin qualified to be President?
Yes: 50%
No: 47%

Headlines:
Politico: "Unemployment Rates due Matter; Is Obama Toast?"
New York Times: "Small Clash, No Bite"
Wall Street Journal: Dead-heat Post Debate

The final debate seemed to only help Palin's case, but the national polls produced no clear winner, both Palin and Obama still hovered around 48%-47%, some polls had them tied, 48%-48% and only one poll had Palin leading 49%-48%.

In the final days of the campaign Palin was joined by her family at an event at the Statue Liberty, where Palin delivered a rousing speech to a crowd of little over a 1000 people. Following the speech she sat down for a one-on-one interview with Newsweek where she boldly predicted her political outcome.
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Palin before her speech on freedom in America.

The cover of the magazine seemed to sum up the entire article.
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An excerpt had Palin saying, "I'm not overconfident. I just believe so passionately in this country what I can do to get this country back on the right track, because we've not lost our course. It's never too late. So to get to the point of your question, I can win, I can beat Obama and bring America back."

A few days later Palin joined Nancy Reagan at a private gathering at the Reagan Library where she called the former governor, "Someone who would bring a smile and tear of joy to Ronnie's eye, you've brought the party back."
The campaign then compiled an image of the two together and began sending it out as a mailer to voters.
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He defeated a failed incumbent.
He revived America's spirit.
Let's do it again, for the Gipper.
Palin/Huntsman, For America

On the eve of Election Night 2012 Obama and Palin spent their day crisscrossing America, from Ohio to Florida, to Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Colorado and North Carolina. Despite the bad news from the previous day (Unemployment shot up to 8.7%) Obama campaigned with the same confident, cool, calm demeanor that elected him.
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"...I know it's been tough along the way, but we've come too far to let our moment pass. I'm still in this thing, I know you are committed. We made history four years ago, now I ask let's just do it once more. Thank you Charleston and God Bless you and God Bless the United States of America!"

Palin finished her campaign up in the battleground state of Ohio. Of the four candidates she had visited the state the most, with Huntsman, then Obama following. Palin once more made her case as the agent of change and a Washington Outsider who would fix the problems of America.
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"Let us remember America is not broken, it is the leadership that has gotten us where we are today, but tomorrow people from Maine to Florida, to Texas, to California and to my home state of Alaska will voice together that it is time for a change. A change of direction, a change of ideas, and a change from Barack Obama!"

Obama vs. Palin:
Obama 48%
Palin   48%

Most polls indicated a dead even race, both candidate wrapped up their campaigns and went their ways home. Obama to Washington and Palin to Alaska. The campaign was finished, all the hands that could be shaken had been, the speeches were done, the confetti had fallen and the pundits were spent. Election 2012 was essentially finished, all that remained was the biggest part: Election Day!





Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 28, 2011, 11:37:56 AM
Election Day turnout by rough estimates was larger than it expected. Most predicted it would topple 2008's record number. Many people waited hours in line to cast their votes, and as for the punditry, the high turnout could mean two things: An Obama landslide, or a Palin victory.

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People wait in line at a polling place in Florida.

The President flew home with First Lady Michele Obama to cast their votes in Illinois. Upon voting the President stated, "After this I'm done running." A reporter called out to the President and asked if he expected victory. He smiled and only said, "I expect to win this state, I'm not going to comment on anything else."
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Obama signals his final election.

The Republican candidate Sarah Palin was one of the first people to cast her vote at her polling place. Accompanied by the whole Palin family, she was cautious in her prediction of the election results.
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"We're going to see what happens. I don't ever trust the polls, I trust the people, and tonight they'll make their decision but we're hopeful."

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Across the country in the Granite State the residents of Dixville Notch carried on their tradition of voting in the middle of the night, like always the results were reported throughout America. In 2000 and 2004 Bush won and Obama carried it in 2008 in a landslide. Yet, in 2012 the results were a bit different.
Obama narrowly edged out Palin, but only by one votes, which sent shockwaves throughout the state and through the campaigns.

Dixville Notch Results:
Obama: 15/21 votes.
Palin:    14/21 votes

National Polling: Obama vs. Palin
Obama 48%
Palin 48%

Election Night 2012

Matthews: Good Evening and welcome to MSNBC's election night coverage of campaign 2012, the race for White House. Tonight it comes down to this, President Obama fights the fight of his life, with Gov. Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska, looking to pull the upset of her career and in American politics and make history. We're joined by our great political team, Ed Schultz, Joe Scarbourgh and Rachel Maddow.

Maddow: Thank you Chris, and the polls have just closed in a series of states from Vermont to South Carolina this hour and we have a projection to make in the Presidential race. When all the votes are in and counted we expect Pres. Obama to win the state of Vermont.
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60.8%  38.6%

Maddow: We also project for Gov. Palin the states of South Carolina and Kentucky.
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39.4%  59.9%

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41.5%  57.7%

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Obama 3
Palin 17

Scarbourgh: And it is Palin with an early lead, but the polls are still outstanding in Georgia, Virginia and Indiana. So Chris, this race ain't over yet.

Maddow: No it's not Joe. Palin will do well in the states of Kentucky and South Carolina, by large margins, but where we need to look at Virginia, it was a state that both of them contested heavily, but looking at the margin right now it is Pres. Obama with a thin lead.

Matthews: I suspect that the President will carry this state, and may get Indiana.

Scarbourgh: Come on Chris, you and I both know he won't get that state. Now Sarah Palin has come along way from 2008 and I think we're all underestimating the ability of this woman.

Schultz: The ability of this woman? I don't think so my friends. She is still a fringe candidate and will not be elected President of the United States.

Matthews: Hold on, we are now projecting Gov. Palin the winner in the state of Indiana. Sarah Palin will get the state of Indiana.

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47.4%  51.9%

Matthews: It's an old Republican stomping ground, I didn't think Palin could hold it, but she has proved me wrong tonight.

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Obama 3
Palin 28

Matthews: We'll be back with more coverage of election night 2012, and I've got a feeling it's going to be a long night. We'll be right back.





Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Niemeyerite on August 28, 2011, 02:22:17 PM
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Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 28, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
Matthews: Welcome back to MSNBC's Election Night coverage of campaign 2012. We turn now to Chuck Todd who has been traveling with the President today and now joins us at our studio.

Todd: Hello Chris, well THe President has kept a low profile today, save for his trip with the First Lady back to Illinois, but once he got back to DC he has kept out of the limelight. He's now with the First Family in the residence awaiting the results.

Scarbough: Hi Chuck, what about Virginia that is certainly the state everyone is watching right now, certainly at the White House.

Todd: Yes, the President is concerned about this state, he was leading narrowly in the state, but that lead has almost decimated and he is about even with Sarah Palin. The state does have a Republican Governor, Bob McDonald and he's been helpful to the GOP candidates.
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Maddow: Sorry to interrupt guys, but MSNBC is now calling the state of Georgia and it's sixteen electoral votes for Gov. Palin.

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46.4%  52.1%

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Obama 3
Palin 44

Scarbough: Georgia was a state the Obama camp tried to win and even six months ago that was seen as a slight possibility, but Sarah Palin keeps it in the column of the GOP and that is certainly good news for the Palin/Huntsman.

Schultz: I tell you if this woman manages to pull an upset, and I still think it's a long shot, this is going to be a different country this time tomorrow and I don't know if it's for the better.

Maddow: We also have some senate races to project in the state of Indiana Dick Lugar has been reelected by a large margin, not as big as he received in 2006, but it looks to be a respectable margin.

Matthews: Sorry to interrupt Rachel, but we now project Gov. Palin the winner in West Virginia. A GOP stronghold remains that way tonight!

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43.4%  56.5%%

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Obama 3
Palin 49

Matthews: We'll be right back.



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Del Tachi on August 28, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
I hope its not even close.

Based on the recent economic panic, Palin should win this one with 340-380 EV's. 


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 28, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
Continue!


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 28, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
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Matthews: We're back with MSNBC's coverage of Election Night 2012. Um, Joe we haven't really discussed throughout the last leg of this cycle Jon Huntsman and his effect? Your thoughts?

Scarbough: Certainly he helped attract moderates to Palin, just looking at the exit polling we received, but in terms of flipping states like say New Hampshire we'll have to weight in see. I'll tell you what Chris, if she wins this tonight Palin has to give Huntsman his credit, because despite the economy's condition I think Huntsman was the wisest move-

Matthews: A Kennedy picking Johnson move.

Scarbough: It could be Chris, we'll have to weight and see, but in many ways Huntsman who was written off after the primaries has a bright future in the party if Palin wins tonight.

Matthews: We talk about a Palin win for the Presidency, but what about the congressional shakeup? The Republicans have Congress and I'm sure they'll still have it tomorrow, but will Palin's coattails stretch to the senate.

Maddow: If it's a trifecta then this country is fundamentally on a different course.

Schultz: And for the worse. I just am mind boggled if she wins this election tonight. I mean we're talking about Sarah Palin possibly becoming President.

Scarbough: Ed, I wish you wouldn't attack this woman in the manner in which you do. She's not perfect but she has a lot to benefit from. This economy is stalled and if she can turn it around more power too it. Barack Obama hasn't been able to.

Matthews: I need to interrupt guys, but it is the eight o'clock hour and we are ready to project a series of states for the two candidates, Rachel.

Maddow: Thanks Chris, MSNBC is now projecting for the President the following states: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland, Delaware, Illinois, Maine and The District of Columbia

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59.9%  39.9%

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60.5%  38.7%

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60.9%  38.7%

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60.5%  39.1%

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61.5%  37.0%

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53.9%  45.0%

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90.0%  7.7%

Maddow: And for Governor Palin we project her the winner in: Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Oklahoma and Missouri.

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40.2%  58.7%

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38.4%  60.2%

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39.5%  60.7%

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37.1%  61.7%

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44.5%  55.3%

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Obama 60
Palin 92

Maddow: And there stands the electoral map at this hour, 90-60, and many states still cannot be called.

Matthews: We should also note that in the state of Maine, they do there delegates proportionately up there, we're only giving President Obama three of the four electoral delegates at this time.

Scarbough: I don't like the sound of that Chris.

Matthews: What?

Scarbough: I mean you've got New Hampshire, a Congressional District in Maine and New Jersey too. What does this mean to you Chris, I mean we are possibly looking at a victory we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan.

Matthews: I think you're overstating the woman's chances. She may do well, but I don't think she'll get New Jersey or New Hampshire.

Maddow: We are also projecting that Scott Brown has defeated challenger Elizabeth Warren by a margin of 52-46. Scott Brown has been reelected, now to a six year term of his own.

Matthews: I expected Brown to do well, Warren ran against a smart, charming guy who connects with the people. Even though he was in Washington he never came across as being from there, Warren did.

Scarbough: Like his opponent four years ago, what was her name, Martha...

Schultz: Coakley. Martha Coakley.

Maddow: This just in the Associated Press is now calling, and based on the votes MSNBC has received we are now making the same call in the state of North Carolina. We are projecting that Governor Palin will carry the state tonight.

Scarbough: (Chuckles), oh what a night, jeez.

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46.9%  52.3%

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Obama 60
Palin 107

Matthews: We'll have more coverage and analysis when we return, stay with us.




Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 29, 2011, 11:45:43 AM
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Matthews: We're back and we're now joined by GOP Chairman Reince Priebus. How is everything looking for your side tonight?

Priebus: Thanks for having me on tonight Chris, I think the American people are speaking loud and clear and I believe before the night's out Sarah Palin will be the next President.

Matthews: Ha. Excuse me, but honestly if this woman is elected and say we still have a divided government can she effectively govern?

Priebus: Chris, don't underestimate Sarah Palin. As governor in Alaska she was a reformer and-

Matthews: Pardon me Mr. Chairman, but we have a projection that I'm sure you'll want to hear. MSNBC is now projecting that will carry the state of Arkansas.

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41.5%  57.7%

Matthews: Another traditional Republican state, but your gal seems to be racking it up tonight.

Priebus: Chris as I said earlier Sarah Palin is going to do very well tonight and will be the 45th President of the United States.

Matthews: Thank you Chairman Rience Priebus. And now we'll turn it over to Rachel who have some updates on the senate races.

Maddow: Thanks Chris, with thirty-three seats up for grabs in these races MSNBC is now calling for Tim Kaine in the Senate race in Virginia, by a margin of 51-48. And in Vermont Bernie Sanders has been reelected by a margin of 69-27. Also in Maine Olympia Snowe has been reelected, despite a third candidate entrance. She has won with a margin of 50-40. With the third party candidate taking around 9 percent.

Matthews: Thanks Rachel, now turn back to that congressional district in Maine. Pres. Obama holds a narrow lead over Gov. Palin, but we cannot project it yet.

MAINE CD:
Obama 50.19%
Palin 47.95%

Scarbough: In 2004 this congressional district almost narrowly went for Bush, now if she is able to swing it tonight it would not only be the first time the district has broken from what the rest of the state has done, but also signal a potential realignment.

Matthews: To be frank, if she gets New Jersey, a state which hasn't voted Republican since George Herbert Walker Bush, than America has fundamentally swung to the right.

Scarbough: Chris, I'm telling you this all began in 2009 with people like Chris Christie getting elected and formation of the Tea Party. The country does not like the liberal agenda that has really been active since 2006 when the Democrats came to power. It then finished with the election of Barack Obama in 2008. America is a center right country and while Palin is more to the right I think she's smart enough to realize that America is not too far to the right and that she must moderate in order to be successful.

Matthews: I'll agree with you on that. Palin is a great politician. Anyone that could rebound like her certainly deserves credit, and if she can defeat Barack Obama then she truly is one of the greatest politicians in modern American history.

Maddow: Hate to cut in but we have a projection. MSNBC is now calling Virginia for Sarah Palin. MSNBC is projecting the state of Virginia for Sarah Palin.

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47.5%  51.7%

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Obama 60
Palin 126

Maddow: Another swing state has gone for the governor and certainly one that was thought over intensely.

Matthews: I did not figure that Palin would carry the state, but just by looking at the exit polling Palin did well among women voters and voters in the rural areas.

Scarbough: I'm sure as more results come in we'll have a much better picture as to Palin's margins across the state and country. But Virginia is certainly a swing state and it wasn't expected to go to her, and now that she's carried it I think we're seeing the end of Barack Obama's campaign.

Maddow: We're now looking at the results coming in from New Jersey and it is still Barack Obama with a lead over Gov. Palin.

New Jersey:
Obama 50.0%
Palin  48.9%

Maddow: Now, MSNBC is now calling the state for the President, so the President's team can breathe a sign of relief knowing that New Jersey has gone Democratic again.

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50.0%  48.9%

Matthews: Well the Jersey Shore remains with the Democrat, still thinking it'll be a landslide Joe?

Scarbough: It's one state and frankly I'm shocked we're making the call with that close, but the fact that Palin did so well in the state clearly shows a shift in this country.

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Obama 74
Palin 126

Matthews: We need to take a short break, but we'll return with more coverage of Election Night 2012.



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 29, 2011, 12:40:42 PM


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: mondale84 on August 29, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
I thought Obama was LEADING Palin in Kentucky... ;)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 29, 2011, 10:18:52 PM
Matthews: Welcome back to MSNBC's election night coverage. We're now turning to MSNBC host of the Last Word, here is Lawrence O'Donnell, what do you make of tonight?

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O'Donnell: I think I'll be migrating to Canada. (Laughs) But I maybe visiting more often. Look it's been the economy and unfortunately the President has been mired in it.

Schultz: The fact is we are dealing with a woman who is reliant on her religious beliefs, rather than on the government.

Matthews: We're going to have to cut in fellas, let's turn it over to Rachel once more.

Maddow: Thank you Chris, it is the nine o'clock hour and MSNBC is calling the following states for President Obama. Rhode Island, New York, and Minnesota.

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60.9%  38.4%

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60.5%  38.7%

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55.5%  44.7%

Maddow: And for Gov. Palin we are projecting the states of: Texas, Louisiana, Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota, Wyoming and Colorado.

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42.1%  57.7%

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39.5%  59.7%

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39.5%  60.7%

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40.0%  59.3%

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40.5%  58.7%

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37.5%  61.7%

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45.5%  53.7%

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Obama 117
Palin 198

Matthews: Wow, that is quite a showing, Joe.

Scarbough: It's the beginning of the end Chris. I know you don't want to admit it.

Matthews: No, no, I'll admit it Joe, but no one has reached 270 electoral votes yet.

Scarbough: Colorado went quickly, Michigan is up in the air, Wisconsin, followed New Mexico. Chris those three states should be in the Democratic column. The American people have rejected Barack Obama's policies, Barack Obama's economy and they're rejecting Barack Obama as President. He's a nice guy, he gives a nice speech, but he has failed as a president.

Maddow: Chris, Joe, friends. Sorry to intervene in this convo but we have a projection to make in Florida, Gov. Palin will carry the state. MSNBC is calling Florida for Sarah Palin

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47.5%  51.7%

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Obama 117
Palin 227

Maddow: And there you have it.

Scarbough: Chris, I just don't see how many more ways it can be rationalized. The Obama camp has got to be uptight now.

O'Donnell: Look, Pres. Obama shouldn't be nervous. The electoral map is still in his favor. Florida really shouldn't be a surprise. It was the site of the Republican Convention, Palin did lead in a few polls, so it shouldn't be a great shock here.

Schultz: I can't see Wisconsin or Michigan voting for Palin, I just can't.

Scarbough: I'm sorry Ed, but with this economy I think it is possible. The problem is many people in the media and many on the left have underestimated this woman, just like they did Ronald Reagan. I don't want to draw the comparisons, because there are differences, but Palin has been unfairly underestimated. She is a fighter and I do believe- I know she's going to cross that line because of two factors: The economy and her upbeat campaign. She tapped into what voters wanted and it wasn't something Pres. Obama was offering.

Maddow: Just from some of the exit polling we've received it seems like Independents have flocked from Obama to Palin, a major shift from 2008.

Matthews: We just received this picture courtesy of the AP. It is President Obama watching the election results in family residence of the White House, about an hour or so ago. What do you make of this photo? Ed?

Schultz: I see a man who has weathered a lot, after being dealt a lot.

O'Donnell: Whatever happens tonight, if Barack Obama skids across the finish line, or if Palin is elected the next President still has a mess on their hands. We have China to worry about, ongoing wars, and millions of people out of work.

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AP picture, Obama at the White House.

Scarbough: Let's just look at the results at some of the states still in question.

Ohio:
Palin 49.6%
Obama 49.4%

Pennsylvania:
Palin 50.0%
Obama 49.4%

Arizona:
Palin 50.9%
Obama 48.4%

New Hampshire:
Palin 50.1%
Obama 49.4%

New Mexico:
Obama 48.8%
Palin  48.6%

Michigan:
Palin 50.2%
Obama 48.9%

Maine CD:
Obama 49.6%
Palin 48.9%

Matthews: We'll be back after a short break with MSNBC's election night coverage. Stay with us.
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Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Simfan34 on August 30, 2011, 09:32:05 AM
I really like the way you show their unease.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on August 30, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
I really like the way you show their unease.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 01, 2011, 05:33:12 PM
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Matthews: And we're back to MSNBC's coverage of Election Night 2012. We are nearing the ten o'clock hour and Rachel before we go to more projection what is the outlook of the senate races shaping up to be?

Maddow: Thank Chris. Well The Democrats had control of the senate and looked to hold onto it, but it appears that the senate will once more be held by the Republicans. The GOP now controls both Houses of Congress, save for the White House. Now President Obama is looking at a divided government in January.

Scarbough: If he is reelected, Rachel.

Schultz: You do realize we're talking about Sarah Palin, right Joe.

Scarbough: Well Ed, a year ago I would have thought we would be discussing the election of Mitt Romney, but Sarah Palin managed to topple him and with the economy the way it is I don't see a way Barack Obama wins this thing, even with Ohio and Pennsylvania still outstanding.

Maddow: Again, my apologies for interrupting boys, but we have projection to make in Pennsylvania. MSNBC is now calling the state of Pennsylvania for Sarah Palin.

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48.9%  50.5%

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Obama 117
Palin 227

O'Donnell: Wow.

Matthews: You can say that again Lawrence. I did not expect my old state to trend with the GOP, but clearly we are witnessing something big here.

Scarbough: You've hit it Chris. I'm not sure this will be as big as Clinton in 1992, or Reagan in 1980, but it is significant, because it appears to be heading towards a plurality in the electoral count and a clear majority in the electoral count.

Maddow: It now ten o'clock on the east coast and MNSBC is now projecting the winners in the following states. Utah for Gov. Palin.

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28.5%  70.7%

Maddow: We are also projecting Montana for the Governor as well.

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44.5%  55.7%

Maddow: And we are also calling Iowa for Gov. Palin. Which now brings her to 262 electoral votes.

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46.0%  52.1%

Matthews: Clearly, Iowa going quickly is not good, combined with what we've already called.

Scarbough: It's officially over guys, and I don't think anyone is going to dispute it.

Schultz: Oh for god sake's Joe just keep piling the stuff on.

Scarbough: I'm sorry, what was that Ed?

O'Donnell: If I may just interject. It appears that we are looking not only a sweep in the Congressional elections, but in the Presidential Elections as well.

Maddow: Cutting in once again, but MSNBC is now calling New Mexico for the President.

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51.7%  47.9%

Schultz: Finally. (Exhales)

Maddow: And New Hampshire for Gov. Palin.

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48.5%  50.2%

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Obama 122
Palin 266

Matthews: We will return with more coverage as we march closer towards the number of 270 electoral votes. Stay with us.








Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 01, 2011, 05:49:18 PM
Though the title made it obvious enough, Palin's got this locked up now, with Idaho, North Dakota, and Alaska putting her well over 270.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 01, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
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Matthews: We're back and now joined by Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, she ran for President of the United States, for the Republican nomination, we are now joining her from a victory rally in Minnesota. And, Congresswoman, what are witnessing tonight, in your view?

Bachmann: Chris, thank you for having me on and boy can I say it is a great night for America!

Matthews: Okay, you obviously believe that Pres. Obama will be defeated and Sarah Palin will be elected. Do you expect a large margin.

Bachmann: Whole heartedly. The American people are coming out of their trances and Chris no I'm not hypnotized. This is a great day for this country. It is a return to the constitution, a return to principles that made America strong and free.

Matthews: Now you're out of elected politics, do you expect to play a role in a Palin administration?

Bachmann: If asked to serve, yes I will do whatever is necessary.

Matthews: Will you ever run for office again?

Bachmann: I have no plans Chris, I'm committed to helping President-elect Palin get this country back on track in anyway I can.

Matthews: Alright, thank you Michele Bachmann.

Schultz: That woman is absolutely unbelievable.

Matthews: So Palin takes New Hampshire a state I did not expect her to win. What are the implications of this election, Lawrence?

O'Donnell: If this is a Palin victory the question will be how big a mandate. The Republican control both houses of Congress so already her coattails have been long, but I think the bigger question is: Can she effectively govern? Can she be a moderate figure?

Scarbough: She has to. She chose Huntsman and she clearly has shifted in order to be more mainstream. Now she'll stick to her guns, but I don't expect it to a complete shift to the right.

Schultz: I don't know what you've been drinking Joe, but if you're calling this woman a moderate I'm Jack Kemp.

Scarbough: I don't think we have to go that far Ed. I think as do the millions of Americans that have voted, Palin is the candidate to fix this economy. Now if she bungles then she's thrown out in four years. You survived George Bush Ed, you'll survive Palin and believe me this woman is no George Bush.

States:

Arizona:
Palin 51.1%
Obama 46.9%

Nevada:
Palin 48.7%
Obama 48.3%

Wisconsin:
Palin 49.4%
Obama 49.4%

Michigan:
Palin 50.6%
Obama 48.4%

Ohio:
Palin 49.7%
Obama 49.1%

Maine CD:
Obama 49.4%
Palin 49.0%





Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 02, 2011, 08:58:11 PM
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Matthews: Welcome back to MSNBC's coverage of Election Night 2012, and as I return with election night commentators I think it is incumbent upon me to set the record straight. Four years Americans voted for change. That is clearly happening again tonight, I don't know if it is for the change from four years ago, but it is change and it says something about our electorate at this time.

Schultz: Well put.

Matthews: It's my thoughts, I'm sticking to it.

Maddow: And, just to sum up the events of tonight. Sarah Palin leads Pres. Obama 266 to 122 electoral votes. The Republican have retained control of the House Representatives and have taken control of the US senate, despite a victory, one of the few, Tim Kaine of Virginia. And, if Gov. Palin is able to take the Presidency it will be a trifecta for the GOP.

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Maddow: It is now eleven o'clock on the east coast and what many of you may have seen as inevitable has happened. Based on wins in Idaho and North Dakota MSNBC is now calling the Presidency for Gov. Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin will be the 45th President of the United States.

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Sarah Palin: The 45th President of the United States of America

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35.5%  63.7%

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39.0%  60.7%

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60.9%  38.9%

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71.9%  26.7%

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Obama 200
Palin 273

Sarah Palin Elected President

Matthews: Well, now that Sarah Palin has gone over the top and just narrowly, I think the question still remains how much or how big of a mandate will she receive?

Scarbough: I think the states still undecided will go for the governor, maybe Wisconsin stays with Obama, but I see her easily cracking the 300 count.

Maddow: MSNBC is now being told that the President has called the President-elect and will give his concession speech from the White House at 11:15, so in just under fifteen minutes.

O'Donnell: Wow.

Matthews: We are certainly living through history, the question remains how will it end?

Epilogue:

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Obama concedes at 11:15 PM at the White House along side the First Family and Vice President Joe Biden. “…We gave it everything we could, but don’t blame yourselves for defeat. You believed in this campaign back on a cold day in February of 2007. America was a crossroad’s then and it is at one now.”


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Palin speaks to her crowd of supporter and proclaims victory. “…And so tonight we Americans all across this country begin the road to recovery. It has taken us a while, but America always finds her way and tonight we did.”

Final Results:

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Sarah Palin 338....50.9%
Barack Obama 200...47.7%

Final States Results: 

Arizona: 11:30 PM
Palin 51.6%
Obama 46.5%

Michigan: 11:45 PM
Palin 50.7%
Obama 48.6%

Ohio: 12:16 AM
Palin 49.7%
Obama 49.1%

Alaska: 1:00 AM
Palin 59.9%
Obama 39.6%

Nevada: 1:40 AM
Palin 50.0%
Obama 49.1%

Wisconsin: 3:59 AM
Palin 49.42%
Obama 49.41%

Maine CD: 6:47 AM
Palin 49.22%
Obama 49.17%

Election Night 2012

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338
200

Headlines:
Politico: It's Palin!
New York Times: America Takes Next Step with Palin
Wall Street Journal: Sarah Palin Sweeps to Victory
Boston Herald: She Did It!








Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: mondale84 on September 02, 2011, 10:35:56 PM
disastro


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: zorkpolitics on September 03, 2011, 11:31:45 AM
Finally change we can believe in!

Nice touch reporting a victory from the opposing side (MSNBC).


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Vote UKIP! on September 03, 2011, 08:54:00 PM
This scenario is more plausible than it may seem.

Liberals will always tell us whom they fear, and they do this by smearing those who threaten them. Note how the media, particularly the "mainstream media," simply obsesses over Palin whenever she does anything. From criticizing her tenure as mayor of Alaska to her meeting with an Iowa heffer, the media tries everything it can to destroy her...yet she comes back for more.

Despite her present polling, I think she could easily defeat the sitting President (well, so could Elmer Fudd). This is your best timeline yet, NHI.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 03, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
This scenario is more plausible than it may seem.

Liberals will always tell us whom they fear, and they do this by smearing those who threaten them. Note how the media, particularly the "mainstream media," simply obsesses over Palin whenever she does anything. From criticizing her tenure as mayor of Alaska to her meeting with an Iowa heffer, the media tries everything it can to destroy her...yet she comes back for more.

Despite her present polling, I think she could easily defeat the sitting President (well, so could Elmer Fudd). This is your best timeline yet, NHI.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Pingvin on September 03, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Cabinet, please.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 04, 2011, 08:31:49 AM
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President Sarah Palin

The Cabinet:
Sec. of State: David Pertraeus
Sec. of Treasury: Herman Cain
Sec. of Defense: Chuck Hagel
Attorney General: Bob McDonnell
Sec. of the Interior: Brian Schweitzer  
Sec. of Agriculture: Matt Mead
Sec. of Commerce: Mitt Romney
Sec. of Labor: Tim Pawlenty
Sec. of Health and Human Services: Mitch Daniels
Sec. of Housing and Urban Development: Steve Preston
Sec. of Transportation: Ray LaHood
Sec. of Energy: Linda Lingle
Sec. of Education: Chris Edwards
Sec. of Veteran's Affairs: Jan Brewer
Sec. of Homeland Security: Rudy Giuliani  





Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on September 04, 2011, 08:53:55 AM
Would Rand give up his spot in the Senate for a low profile cabinet position?


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 04, 2011, 09:31:17 AM
Would Rand give up his spot in the Senate for a low profile cabinet position?

I meant to type Ron, not Rand. Oops.



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on September 04, 2011, 10:40:02 AM
Would Rand give up his spot in the Senate for a low profile cabinet position?

I meant to type Ron, not Rand. Oops.



Ron Paul believes all cabinet positions besides Attorney General and Secretary of Defense are unconstitutional. :( So sadly I don't think he's gonna be in any cabinet.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 04, 2011, 11:06:14 AM
I've got to hand it to you on that one. In an alternate world perhaps, but not in this world. Mitch Daniels will be a better a choice.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 09, 2011, 08:03:43 PM
I'm running through some ideas of what I might do, but before I start I must ask: would anyone like to see this continue through Palin's reelection?

Thoughts, please.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 09, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
I'd LOVE to see this continue. :)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Niemeyerite on September 09, 2011, 09:04:48 PM


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 09, 2011, 09:22:22 PM
And so it shall, look for update this weekend.

The Presidency of Sarah Palin: 2013 - ?
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Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on September 09, 2011, 10:34:30 PM
2013-2017.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 10, 2011, 12:13:36 PM
The Inauguration of Sarah Palin:

Sarah Palin took to the podium at 12:04. She was now President of the United States. With the republicans in control of both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue America looked to be heading a new direction from the previous four years. Determined to establish a firm direction in which she would lead Palin spoke with candor and evoked a somber, but rising message.
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Palin: "...This country is in trouble, I would not be standing here today if weren't so, and while I do wish I could magically erase the challenges facing this great land, I know as you do it will require all of efforts, if we are to succeed. Unemployment has put millions of our people out of work, and there is a lack, perhaps a better word is a loss of confidence in our ability to face these challenges. We seem complacent to allow other nations to surpass us. I do not want this to be the case. Our freedom, our liberty and our way of life are at stake in this matter, and that cannot be understated. America is hurting, America is weakened but like generations before us who have faced similar crisis we will rise up, we will overcome and we will succeed, so help me god! For as Lincoln said, we must live as a nation of free men all the time or we will die by suicide. Let us remember who we are what we can still do. We are after all the United States of America."

Palin's Inauguration drew the largest crowd in Washington ever, and was the most watched event in television history. The next day Palin got down to business, unsure of the road ahead her, but determined to trek it.

Palin Approval Rating:
Approve: 59%
Disapprove: 25%
No Opinion: 16%


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 10, 2011, 04:41:34 PM
Yay! :)

I am going to do a little bit of nitpicking, only to help. :) The exit polls don't quite make sense to me. I don't see Palin winning the female vote. Under the sexes, you'd think Palin won overall around 49-48%. Yet the age groups suggest Palin would win by much more, considering she comfortably won 3/4 of the age groups and barely lost the youth vote (For the two to match up it'd require, like, 80% of voters to be in the 18-29 category) ;)

I look forward to more!


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 10, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
Yay! :)

I am going to do a little bit of nitpicking, only to help. :) The exit polls don't quite make sense to me. I don't see Palin winning the female vote. Under the sexes, you'd think Palin won overall around 49-48%. Yet the age groups suggest Palin would win by much more, considering she comfortably won 3/4 of the age groups and barely lost the youth vote (For the two to match up it'd require, like, 80% of voters to be in the 18-29 category) ;)

I look forward to more!
No problem at all. Thanks for the help.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 10, 2011, 06:03:38 PM
The Republican Senate, (51-47) and the Republican House (255-179) immediately began to work on President Palin's domestic agenda. In her joint session of Congress on the Economic Crisis.
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"We must see that businesses have the environment to thrive and to compete. We must have a tax system that is fair and yes, reformed. And, last we must have health care solutions that are commonsense, and work for every America. We can revive our economy if we repeal the Affordable Care Act. It is bad legislation, it has been deemed partly unconstitutional and it is our responsibility to see it repealed and from there we can begin the process of seeing our country move back on the right track for the future!"

Palin's proposal drew a heated response from the left and from many in the media. Hardball's Chris Matthew criticized the President for her plan.
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"I find this to be deplorable. I mean this woman is literally trying to tear this country apart. She wants to undo the legislation that will be the benchmark of Pres. Obama's legacy. I have to believe she is doing this so she can say to her base, "Yes I did it, I have to believe she has no plans to fix health care in America."

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi delivered a battle cry to the President's plan to repeal Obamacare, by saying "If the President wants a fight we'll giver her one."
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Despite the anger from the democrats and many in the media most polls favored Palin's plan to repeal the law.

Do you Support Repeal of the Affordable Care Act?
Yes: 57%
No:  39%

Palin fired back through social media, by tweeting: "America cannot afford something that will bankrupt the country. O.C. will be repealed."

Despite the Democrat's Persistence ObamaCare was effectively repealed on March 5th, 2013, and Pres. Palin signed it into law later that day and had a formal signing ceremony at the White House the following morning.
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When asked the Office of Former President Obama in Chicago only offered a statement of "No Comment."

Palin Approval Rating:
Approve: 60%
Disapprove: 27%
No Opinion: 13%

With the historic repeal of the ObamaCare law, Palin also received even more good news. Unemployment remained at 8.5% since the November Election, only dipping to 8.4% in January. Wall Street also remained timid. Following Palin's inauguration the Stock Market had it best day in over a year and by April with the end of ObamaCare and signing of the largest Tax Cut in the nation's history unemployment finally dropped to 8%.

Palin applauded the drop and said it was only the beginning of a recovery. "This is only the beginning. America is coming back."

Meanwhile some folks in Democratic circles began speculating about the 2016 Democratic Race.

Who do you want to be The Democratic Nominee in 2016?
Hillary Clinton: 59%
Andrew Cuomo: 11%
Russ Feingold: 7%
Evan Bayh: 5%
Mark Warner: 3%
Tim Kaine: 2%
Kirsten Gillibrand: 1%
Brian Schweitzer: 1%
Someone Else/Other: 11%

Who do you want to be The Democratic Nominee in 2016? (Without Clinton)
Andrew Cuomo: 15%
Russ Feingold: 14%
Evan Bayh: 8%
Mark Warner: 8%
Tim Kaine: 4%
Kirsten Gillibrand: 1%
Brian Schweitzer: 1%
Someone Else/Other: 49%

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It is early we know. President Palin has not been in office six months and we are already speculating about three years from now, but it is interesting to see that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton is leading the polls for the democratic nomination and by such a large margin. No Mrs. Clinton has not indicated whether or not she'll seek the nomination in three years, but it is telling...don't you think?"

Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 49%
Clinton 44%





Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on September 10, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
Good job so far!

Only complaint is that now Mitch Daniels is in two positions at once. :P Since one of his two positions is Commerce, maybe Palin can instead have someone like Mitt Romney, Mike Bloomberg, or some other business experienced politician there? Also, cool that Brian Schweitzer's in the cabinet. Too bad this takes him out of the possibility of running in 2016 or 2020 though. That'd be interesting.


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 10, 2011, 11:05:19 PM
Good job so far!

Only complaint is that now Mitch Daniels is in two positions at once. :P Since one of his two positions is Commerce, maybe Palin can instead have someone like Mitt Romney, Mike Bloomberg, or some other business experienced politician there? Also, cool that Brian Schweitzer's in the cabinet. Too bad this takes him out of the possibility of running in 2016 or 2020 though. That'd be interesting.

Thanks for catching that. I meant to Mitt Romney, but put Daniels in twice. I thought it would be interesting putting Schweitzer, but knows if he'll stay through 2016. ;)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 11, 2011, 10:02:23 PM
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President Palin took to the road in a series of town hall meetings where she hoped to get feedback from the American people as she headed into the summer months. She faced many questions on the state of the economy, foreign affairs and the war on terror.

In what was seen as unlikely Palin announced her intentions to withdraw all but small task force of troops to remain in Afghanistan. "The war on terror will carry on, but in a different and much more economical fashion. We cannot afford to bankrupt ourselves, so when the time does come and America must rise to the task we will be ready. By the end of my first term our combat in Afghanistan will be officially over."

Palin's comments drew both praise and criticism.
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Senator Lindsey Graham offered a veiled criticism of President Palin by saying, "America must remain strong, and I know President Palin shares this view as well."

President Palin remained firm on her decision dismissed Senator Graham's comment, by simply tweeting, "Advice is great, but policy is set by the president."

Despite some flack President Palin's decision drew wide scale approval from the American people.

Do you Approve of President Palin's Decision to end the War in Afghanistan by 2017?
Yes: 76%
No:  17%

President Palin formally laid out her plan in an Oval Office Address, citing a war weary public and economic concerns were the factors that led up to her decision. "...America will cripple the terrorist, but we will not let them win, by crippling ourselves. We must refocus our energies on the home front and taking our battle in a more advance age, then direct combat."

President Palin Approval Ratings:
Approve: 63%
Disapprove: 26%

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Over the late summer Pres. Palin headed on the road again to promote her economic package. Though it wasn't without problems. Pres. Palin's rallies did bring protesters and at a stop in Ohio Pres. Palin was nearly trampled in the crowd. The Secret Service managed to scoop the President out before she could be hurt, but it did create quite a stir.

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Meanwhile Presidential politics began to heat up again with the Fall Release of a second memoir by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Love of Country

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Pelley: What do you think of President Palin?
Clinton: She's made history. Obviously we share differences in policies, but she is a great role model for young girls everywhere, and it really sends a message to people around the world.
Pelley: That brings me to my next question. You have a new book out, it's creating a lot of buzz and the question I think that is on everyone's mind is, are you going to run for President in 2016?
Clinton: Scott, that is something I don't think about.
Pelley: So this book is-
Clinton: A reflection on my career in the senate, running for president, in 2008 and serving under President Obama as Secretary of State.
Pelley: So you aren't going to run for President?
Clinton: I don't honestly think about it. I've enjoyed spending time with my family. Chelsea is expecting a baby. I have so many wonderful things to look forward to.
Pelley: But just for the record Mrs. Clinton you would not entertain a run for President?
Clinton: It's not something I'm thinking about Scott.

Would you support Hillary Clinton for The Democratic Nomination:
Yes: 66%
No:  27%

Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 50%
Clinton 44%



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 12, 2011, 10:28:33 AM
Note: I will be doing one more update of Sarah Palin's First Term, then I will jump into the 2016 Democratic Primaries.



Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 14, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
President Palin began January 2014 with the unemployment of 7.5%. The decline was attributed to a combination of tax cuts and curbing of government spending. While some on the left were disgruntled with some of the president's actions the majority of the American people were behind her.

Pres. Palin Approval Rating:
Approve: 60%
Disapprove: 25%
No Opinion: 15%

In her State of the Union Address she cited the sense of American renewal the continuing drop in unemployment as signs that America was back!
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 "...My fellow citizens, we are on the cusps of a new beginning for this great country. A renewed sense of national pride and confidence. A continuing drop in the unemployment is one that signal's America's return! We will keep on growing, we will keep on moving. God Bless America, God Bless each and everyone of you. Thank you."

Throughout the midterm election year President Palin saw unemployment hit 7.1% by the spring and in the fall the Republican retained control of the House and Senate and increased their numbers. Many pundits predicted that with a revived economy, and a popular incumbent, Palin looked to be unstoppable in 2016.

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Chris Matthews offered his take on President Palin's path to reelection.
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"America is clearly looking better than it has in a while, is it Pres. Palin's policies or a combinations of the ones with her predecessors? Or was it just only a matter of time before America roared back. Whatever it is Palin is achieving the benefits and looks to head into reelection. Most polls have her leading all opponents. But 2016 is two years away and while the Republicans have achieved a landslide, will it last?

Polling:

Palin vs. Cuomo:
Palin 54%
Cuomo 38%

Palin vs. Kaine:
Palin 56%
Kaine 37%

Palin vs. Patrick:
Palin 55%
Patrick 39%

Palin vs. Lynch:
Palin 59%
Lynch 34%

Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 51%
Clinton 43%




Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on September 14, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Still reading. :)


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 15, 2011, 06:54:52 AM
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The Democratic Primary: 2016

Throughout much of 2015 speculation began to arise over potential candidates for the Democratic Nomination. The first candidate to officially enter the race was Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo.

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"This President sees America much different than you or I do. She sees America a shinning city on a hill, but in fact that is not the case. That is one view of America right now. Another view is what we all see, we see a different city, my friends..."

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Matthews: The Democratic Race has begun with a big gun getting in. Can Andrew Cuomo topple President Palin? Let's bring in Eugene Robinson. Eugene, what do you make of Cuomo's entrance?

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Well, Chris he is certainly a contender. He's done things in New York that have pleased the Democratic base. He's what I think they would have liked out of Obama. Certainly he can take a fight to Palin and hold his ground, but can he win? Who knows at this point. Frankly I was surprised that he decided to enter the race, especially with Palin's approval rating in the mid fifties, so maybe he sees something we don't.

Matthews: I think the person we're all waiting on is Hillary Clinton. Yes, Cuomo is running, probably Tim Kaine, Deval Patrick is mentioned and former New Hampshire Governor John Lynch, but Clinton is the candidate.

Robinson: She's in a position right now to practically win the nomination. From people I've been talking to have said she remains undecided. Clearly she would be a dynamic figure in the face and would give Palin a run for her money in 2016, but I don't know if she wants it.

Matthews: Oh, I think she does. Hillary Clinton wants to be President and she knows this is her last chance, otherwise it's over. So we shall see, thank you MSNBC's Eugene Robinson.

In the weeks following Cuomo other candidates entered the race, including Deval Patrick, Tim Kaine, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Russ Feingold.

Democratic Nomination: Polling
Cuomo: 19%
Feingold: 14%
Schultz: 13%
Kaine: 10%
Patrick: 5%
Someone Else: 39%

In late August Clinton still remained mum on her intentions for 2016. When Bill Clinton was asked, while attending a Democratic Fundraiser he simply said, "It's up to her." While Cuomo seemed to lead the pack, his support never reached above twenty-two percent, with the majority of the democratic voters wanting another candidate.

Pres. Palin's Approval Rating:
Approve: 53%
Disapprove: 37%

With Palin's somewhat stelar approval ratings many pundits speculated Clinton would not enter the race at the chance of being defeated by Sarah Palin in the general.

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"As summer begins to turn into fall, former Secretary of State and Senator of New York Hillary Clinton has a choice to make. With history having already been made with the first woman president, perhaps Mrs. Clinton realizes her moment has passed and that it is time to move on. Or does her own desire to become president outweigh that notion?"

Yet, despite Palin's approval numbers and polling against prospective candidates, when placed in a hypothetical race against Hillary Clinton the numbers shifted and for the first time showed the two in an almost dead heat.

Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 49%
Clinton 46%

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Scarborough:"I think it is very telling, when you have a president with her approval ratings and she's polling against someone who has been around Washington shall we say. I mean I find it almost odd that is a matchup that Palin only wins by three."

Geist: Imagine if she enters the race, this is only with her as a possible candidate.

Scarborough: Exactly. If she enters the race, then she wins the nomination and we're looking at an extremely close general election, because Palin's approval ratings aren't going to reach much higher. The economy maybe good, but I think Palin has reached a number that she can either keep or loose.

Geist: Well that's the thing. White House advisors are nervous off the record about a Clinton candidacy, because they think of all the people in this race she is the only one who could beat her.

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In September Clinton returned back from a trip overseas, which prompted speculation, but again she offered no announcement.

Chris Matthews offered his thoughts on a potential Clinton campaign on HardBall:
Matthews: It's now or never I think. She can't play this much longer, perhaps into October, but certainly not past that.

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Fineman: Look it'll either be Kaine or Cuomo that takes Iowa and then New Hampshire is her's if she enters.

Matthews: So you're thinking she's skipping Iowa.

Fineman: Yes. She came in third in 2008, she doesn't want to do that again. I think if she does enter this race she can enter very late, because of who she is.

Matthews: You don't think that will backfire?

Fineman: It could, but here's why I think not. This race is unsettled a strong thirty plus percent want the nominee to be someone. People like Cuomo, but as long as Clinton is still out there people are leaning towards her.

Matthews: Here's the latest democratic nomination polling, it shows Cuomo with a narrow lead over Tim Kaine. This is for Iowa.

Democratic Polling:
Cuomo: 24%
Kaine: 22%

Matthews: Are you surprised that Feingold didn't make it?

Fineman: Yes and no. I mean we he entered I thought he was going to be a real contender, but with a couple of bad debate performances and his inability to catch much traction I think doomed him. I think that's why people like Mark Warner and Evan Bayh stayed out of the race.

Democratic Polling: (With Clinton)
Clinton: 45%
Cuomo: 19%
Kaine: 14%
Schultz: 10%
Patrick: 8%
Someone else: 4%

In early October Clinton announced she would be making a statement by the first week in November. When pressed if she was announcing her campaign for president she simply stated, "I will announce my decision then."

Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 48%
Clinton 46%

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Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 15, 2011, 10:11:45 PM
Brief Update: October 2015

1. Unemployment dropped to 7.4%, the lowest since Palin took office.
2. The third week of October saw the worst week for The Stock Market since 2012.
3. Pres. Palin signed into a law The Social Security Reform Act. It effectively was partial privatization of the system and it received minimal support from Democrats in the House and ZERO in the senate. Palin called it a great day for America's safety net and the future stability of it.
4. Pres. Palin urged Congress to take up legislation on her immigration policy, titled by the media: "Get the Hell Out of Here"
5. Bristol Palin accompanied her mother on a trip abroad to Asia. 
6. Hillary Clinton's Memoir: Love of Country sells over 2 million copies.
7. John Lynch, former governor of New Hampshire and failed candidate for congress in 2014 announces his campaign for President of the United States; a surprise to the political world.

Democratic Nomination Polling:
Cuomo: 20%
Kaine: 16%
Schultz: 14%
Patrick: 9%
Lynch: 4%
Other: 37%

On November 7th, to a large crowd of supporter Hillary Clinton did what was seen as inevitable and yet came as a political shocker. Hillary Clinton announced her campaign for President of the United States.
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"I'm in, I'm ready and I'm running for President of the United States."

Democratic Nomination Polling:
Clinton: 48%
Cuomo: 17%
Kaine: 13%
Schultz: 9%
Patrick: 6%
Lynch: 3%
Other: 4%

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"...never has a candidate jumped to the pack that quickly and so decisively. Clinton is leading with almost fifty percent of support, so is it worth for the other candidates to be running, or are they merely waiting for the vice presidency? I think a healthy debate is good for the party, Clinton is probably expecting a fight between Cuomo and Kaine, now will see win the nomination this time? We'll wait and see, but my money is on Mrs. Clinton. Now on the election? That is too early to tell."

Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 50%
Clinton 45%

Projected Map:
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Palin 233
Clinton 227





Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 16, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
Iowa:
Up until Clinton's entrance into the race it was a race between and Cuomo and Kaine for The Hawkeye State. With Clinton now in, the race for Iowa took shape. Having realized the proposed path eight years ago which did not lead her to the nomination Clinton spent a great deal of time in the state, taking not for granted.


Key Clinton Endorsement:
-Bill Clinton
-Evan Bayh
-Ed Randall
-Russ Feingold
-Barack Obama
-Michelle Obama
-Joe Biden
-Jill Biden
-Kirsten Gillibrand
-Jeanne Shaheen

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A week before Iowa Joe and Jill Biden joined Hillary and Bill on the trail. "She the woman we want and the woman we need!" Biden declared. "Let's elect her the next President in November!"

In a debate before the Iowa Caucuses presented herself as the candidate who could unite all wings of the Democratic Party. "We need someone who has the resume, someone who is a fighter and can unite the whole party as we go against Sarah Palin in November. I am that candidate."

When asked on the sidelines about the failures of the Obama Administration, she stated, "Pres. Obama had a divided government, now if we can win back both houses that's great, but we need someone that can go in there and take the fight to the republicans and I think Pres. Obama will admit that he did not do that."
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When asked about her age, Clinton laughed and said, "Like Ronald Reagan I will not make age an issue of this campaign, in order to gain an advantage over my more, shall we say youthful opponent."
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The result in Iowa proved one clear result: Hillary Clinton was going to be the nominee.
Iowa Results:
Clinton: 44%
Cuomo: 20%
Kaine:    17%
Schultz:  9%
Patrick:    5%
Lynch:      1%

Following the results Deval Patrick ended his campaign and announced his support for Hillary Clinton. Many speculated that John Lynch would do the same. Though he had been the governor of New Hampshire, Clinton was poised to win the state where he governed for eight years.

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Clinton headed into New Hampshire, with Cuomo and Kaine trailing far behind her. Though the media pounced on the possibility of a Lynch upset, though it did not happen. Clinton trounced her opponents once more, but Lynch came in a surprising third, but not enough to change the race.

NH:
Clinton: 42%
Cuomo: 19%
Lynch:   18%
Kaine:    8%
Schultz:  4%

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz ended her campaign after New Hampshire and endorsed Clinton. When she did, she called on all others in the race to do the same, saying that a prolonged fight would only help the President.

Kaine soon bowed out and headed threw his support behind, "The Next President of the United States, Hillary Clinton." John Lynch's doomed from the start bid ended shortly there after, leaving only Cuomo as Clinton's challenger for the nomination, but is poor finishing showed he would not be much competition.

Clinton defeated him soundly in Nevada, and then in South Carolina. The Cuomo campaign looked to Florida as their last stand, but they were soundly defeated again and he conceded defeat to Clinton and endorsed her for President.

With the Democratic Nomination decided by the end of February, Clinton turned her attention to the general election. The selection of a running mate, the convention and engaging Pres. Palin, who still was held in a favorable light.

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Palin vs. Clinton:
Palin 49%
Clinton 44%


Title: Re: Madame President
Post by: NHI on September 21, 2011, 10:56:28 AM
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Clinton as she announces her pick for Vice President: Deval Patrick.
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