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Title: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 09:33:30 PM
I have the privilege and the opportunity to go on a mission trip to Kenya during Spring Break from March 16-23, 2012.  I have to raise around $2,000 by early January to go, but I already have a commitment of $750.  I am going with my cousin's church, along with two others from my church.  I am going to the church in the morning to get the information packet and may go ahead and lay down the deposit.  I will ask for the leave from work this Saturday when I go back for Week 24.

I ask those of you who pray for two things, (1) that God would allow me to raise the funds needed to go and (2) that God would protect my job.  My job shouldn't be in any jeopardy since all is required is taking 6 days leave (if I'm back to a M-F schedule).  I will have two weeks leave once I become permanent in January, so that shouldn't be an issue.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on November 16, 2011, 09:50:37 PM
Very nice. Regardless of the difference in denomination, it's a religious mission and it's Christian, so sounds good. Too bad I don't have any money to send you.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 16, 2011, 09:51:53 PM
What sort of mission work is it?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 09:52:51 PM

I'm not exactly sure, I'm going to get the pamphlet and registration packet tomorrow morning.  I'll find out then.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 09:53:16 PM
Very nice. Regardless of the difference in denomination, it's a religious mission and it's Christian, so sounds good. Too bad I don't have any money to send you.

Prayer support works just as well. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Bacon King on November 16, 2011, 10:44:30 PM
Inb4 someone wonders if it's a scam


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 10:48:10 PM

This is a legitimate opportunity. It is from a church that I know and have close ties to.  They do this every March and I was invited to go in 2012 by my cousin and the youth minister at our church.  This is not selling vacuums or cheap discount insurance or something like that.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 16, 2011, 10:50:44 PM
That's cool. How's the rest of your life going?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on November 16, 2011, 10:51:44 PM
How much of that $2,000 actually directly benefits to people of Kenya?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 10:52:32 PM

It's going well, I'm finally on the road to losing weight.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: tpfkaw on November 16, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
God wants you to put your money in a bank account and do your job.  Rest assured, He will punish you if you do otherwise.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
How much of that $2,000 actually directly benefits to people of Kenya?

I don't know, I'll have to look at the pamphlet and information on it tomorrow.

The airfare, food, and lodging will take up quite a bit of that, I would imagine.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on November 16, 2011, 10:56:59 PM
How much of that $2,000 actually directly benefits to people of Kenya?
I don't know, I'll have to look at the pamphlet and information on it tomorrow.

The airfare, food, and lodging will take up quite a bit of that, I would imagine.

That's what I would think. When I went to Ireland for a month without even having to pay for lodging I spent $2,000. Wouldn't it be a little more generous to take that airplane and hotel money and send it to people already in Kenya instead of using the money to visit for a week?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 11:06:14 PM
How much of that $2,000 actually directly benefits to people of Kenya?
I don't know, I'll have to look at the pamphlet and information on it tomorrow.

The airfare, food, and lodging will take up quite a bit of that, I would imagine.

That's what I would think. When I went to Ireland for a month without even having to pay for lodging I spent $2,000. Wouldn't it be a little more generous to take that airplane and hotel money and send it to people already in Kenya instead of using the money to visit for a week?

This is probably a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go overseas which is something I've always wanted to do and with the situation I'm currently in, this could possibly be my only chance.

Plus, from what I understand, we are going there for a week to give a physical hand to things they need, such as any kind of maintenance work whether electrical, plumbing, or anything else we can do to assist them in the short time we'll be there.  We are mainly going there to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but doing it in a way that also meets their daily needs as well.  In the Christian community, we have a saying that says people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.  We're not ramrodding the Gospel down anyone's throats, we are going to meet their daily physical needs as best we can and if we get a chance share with them the love and the message of Jesus Christ.

Kenya is majority Christian, but just like in America, there are many people who still need to hear the message of Christ that there is a God who loves them and who died for them and who wants to have a personal relationship with them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on November 16, 2011, 11:09:08 PM
Right, so as long as you're not parading around touting how much of an experience this is for them, I can respect that. You absolutely should take full advantage, this is a great opportunity for you.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 16, 2011, 11:22:30 PM
Right, so as long as you're not parading around touting how much of an experience this is for them, I can respect that. You absolutely should take full advantage, this is a great opportunity for you.

Thanks, fezzy!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Eraserhead on November 16, 2011, 11:40:15 PM
The first post has already foreshadowed the loss of another job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: The Mikado on November 16, 2011, 11:40:37 PM
Remember to make sure your vaccinations are all up to date.  A friend of my parents' once came down with malaria after she visited Africa.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 17, 2011, 01:27:36 AM

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Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on November 17, 2011, 01:32:43 AM
Now Bushie is just ripping off the Book of Mormon musical.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 17, 2011, 01:34:10 AM
preach the word boldly, BushOK


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Јas on November 17, 2011, 03:28:47 AM
I'm never really sure what such trips hope to achieve; beyond creating a quite possibly misplaced sense of self-satisfaction.

Kenya is a 90%+ Christian country and has substantial unemployment.

Spending all that money to go to Africa to preach to the converted and in the meantime perform tasks that would normally be done by trained professionals back home (do you do a lot of plumbing or electrical work on your own home Bushie?), rather than maybe say putting some funds or effort into training some locals to do this work, doesn't seem like the best use of time, energy or resources to me.

Anyways, enjoy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: afleitch on November 17, 2011, 03:54:53 AM
You won't be telling Kenyan's anything they don't already know with regards to their faith. And given that US evangelical churches in a bout of doctrinal colonialism have contributed to the rise in anti-gay attacks, edicts and 'kill the gays' bills, I tend not to be the biggest endorser of such projects :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 17, 2011, 03:59:03 AM
Kenya is a 90%+ Christian country

Nonsense. Kenya is Muslim and we all know why.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on November 17, 2011, 08:25:38 AM
No.

Here is an easier get rich scheme. Take your "$2,000" and start a panzi business out there in Kenya. At the very least, sell them some playground equipment.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 08:52:09 AM
The first post has already foreshadowed the loss of another job.

No, all it requires is just 5 or 6 days leave which I will have by then.  I'm a little more mature when it comes to such things than I was just last year.  My mother is planning to retire around June 1, 2012 and this will in no way hinder that.

BTW, I was planning to take 3 or 4 days anyway that same week and go visit my niece in Jacksonville, Florida which is also her Spring Break.  I will still visit her, but it will be after she gets out of school for the summer.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on November 17, 2011, 09:07:33 AM

This is a legitimate opportunity. It is from a church

So it's a scam, then.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 17, 2011, 09:42:45 AM
Are you still applying to business school?

Do you have mechanical skills (plumbing, electrical) that are lacking in Kenya?

Do you owe your parents money?

This trip could be a great experience, but even if it is organized as a mission, it is your spending money you likely don't have on an experience for your own benefit. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but if you believe that you are doing others a favor by taking the $2,000 and spending it on this trip, you are not being honest with yourself.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on November 17, 2011, 09:47:19 AM
I met a girl at a party last year.  was actually a party sponsored by the Cornell Democrats.  ers.  but anyway, took a look around and saw a nice looking girl sipping out of a solo cup alone in the corner.  the NBA playoffs were on, I'm pretty sure this was in April.  I introduced myself, she said her name was 'Faith'.  got to talking and she told me she went to high school in Africa.  so I quickly connected the dots.  asked her 'are you still a Christian?' to which I got an affirmative.  a few minutes into this my buddies indiciated to me we were gonna hop over to the next stop, asked me in code if I wanted to stay to pursue this girl, etc.  but I saw the writing on the wall.  with grace I gave her a "it's been great meeting you" and went on my way. 

once outside the door buddies asked me, "why didn't you stay?"  I looked deep into one pair of eyes and said "she's a big Christian, it wasn't happening, boys" and we faded into the Appalachian night.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 17, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
This is probably a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go overseas which is something I've always wanted to do and with the situation I'm currently in, this could possibly be my only chance.

No. Mission trips like this happen all the time and will continue to happen in the future. You said they do this every March! If not mission trips, there are plenty of other ways to go overseas, now or in the future when you may have your own funds to do it.

You are falling into the trap of convincing yourself you must do something you want to do which your brain is telling you you can't afford.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 17, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
Have you already put down a deposit on the trip?

Who is your $750 commitment from?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on November 17, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
God wants you to put your money in a bank account and do your job.  Rest assured, He will punish you if you do otherwise.

It is rare that I agree wholeheartedly with wormyguy.

BushOK, remember what I said before:

Quote from: opebo on July 18, 2010, 02:06:25 pm
No, no, no.  If you are a poor, and you have a job at the Electric Company, you stay there, and say 'yes sir' and 'no sir, and just batten down the hatches and wait.  It will all be over soon enough.  No need to rush it by getting conned up the a**s by some Kiwi b******s church and ending up living under a bridge.


If you want to travel one day, believe me, it will be a lot more fun to do it without this Christian nonsense (assuming you get over this silly religious phase one day.. as a matter of fact I'd say you could have a real chance of jettisoning it if you lose weight and start to enjoy life a bit).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Gustaf on November 17, 2011, 09:55:00 AM
So, are you thinking of taking up a missionary position over there?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 11:25:32 AM
Are you still applying to business school?

Do you have mechanical skills (plumbing, electrical) that are lacking in Kenya?

Do you owe your parents money?

This trip could be a great experience, but even if it is organized as a mission, it is your spending money you likely don't have on an experience for your own benefit. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but if you believe that you are doing others a favor by taking the $2,000 and spending it on this trip, you are not being honest with yourself.

I am still applying for my MBA, that hasn't changed.

They don't need just mechanical skills, they said they will take whatever I can bring to the table.

I will put the deposit down probably the Wednesday after Thanksgiving (November 30)

The $750 is coming from the $250 deposit plus $500 from my grandmother.  She is behind me in this endeavor.  I have several ways I can raise the funds to go.  Plus, if God wants me to go, He will provide the means to raise the needed funds and will keep my job secure.

If i put the deposit down on November 30, I will apply for my passport probably the next week as it takes 4-6 weeks to process, which would put in mid January.

It's probably true that this is not the only time I would be able to go, but this is the year where I will have two people I know and trust going with me, my cousin and youth minister, so I'm not going with complete strangers.

Opie, I will never grow out of this "religious phase".  I have much more fun being a Christian than I could ever have otherwise.

Gustaf, no I'm not being called to up and move to Kenya.  I'm just being led to lend my hand in whatever way I can for the 3 or 4 days we'll be there.  The trip is a week long, but you can probably estimate 2 days to get there and 2 days to get back which only leaves 3, maybe 4, days to serve on the ground.

My grandmother was really quite skeptical about it even last night at church, but then she quickly warmed to the idea knowing that it would be a great experience for me, and she also has the faith that God will provide the means to raise the funds and keep my job at Dell secure.  I am going to tell my parents, however, I am not going to ask their permission as I am 5 months shy of my 30th birthday, I am going to ask for their support.

If I thought there was any way that my job at Dell would be in any way compromised, then I would not be going to Kenya.

Also, when I sign up, I will reserve the right to back out should I feel that going would cause too much strain on things here at home.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 17, 2011, 11:29:02 AM
Is the deposit refundable?

What is the latest date at which you can put down a deposit?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 11:40:46 AM
Is the deposit refundable?

What is the latest date at which you can put down a deposit?

The organizer of the mission trip is not in the office today, but I emailed him and he should get back to me this evening.

The deposit is refundable and they need the deposit as soon as possible so they can get the lowest rates on air fare and keep it from going over $2,000.  I do know that the estimated costs are between $1,500 and $2,000 plus passport and vaccination costs.  The sooner they can get the deposits and get a final head count on the travelers the better chance they have of getting closer to the $1,500.  That includes the deposit.  I have $750 guaranteed with the deposit, so I could already have half to nearly half of the money right there.  My parents will probably chip in some, so that get me a lot closer, plus my church will probably chip in for the three of us who are going.  I'll, of course, put in some myself, so that should give me the money I need plus a little spending money for souvenirs or, better yet, giving a little money to the children we meet so they can buy a little food.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on November 17, 2011, 12:24:57 PM
I guess it is more a matter of aesthetics than anything else, but invoking the sacred to facilitate one's desires in the secular world via praying is infra dig to me. God has better things to do as it were, and it's too egocentric.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on November 17, 2011, 03:06:49 PM
I certainly wouldn't spend $2,000 for less than a week, and I also certainly wouldn't go with a church group (I'm certain you won't experience Kenya the way you could doing it differently.), but in general, if at all possible, you should try to go abroad.

If I were you, I'd spend the money going to somewhere in Europe...but ok, that's a matter of preference.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
My mother and dad are starting to warm to this idea, as well.  I'm going to sit down with them over dinner around 4:30 and discuss the matter. Once I add in all the incidental expenses associated with the trip, it might push it closer to $2,500 or slightly higher, but the air fare is right around $1,500-$1,750.  I'm going to find out in the next week or two what the extra incidentals are.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 17, 2011, 03:27:09 PM

omg oklahoma is adorable


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on November 17, 2011, 03:32:36 PM
...I'm going to sit down with them over dinner around 4:30 and discuss the matter.

Now that is hilarious.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 17, 2011, 03:34:36 PM

This is where M. Night got The Village all wrong...too small in scope...he could have just done a movie on Oklahoma.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 03:54:54 PM

This is where M. Night got The Village all wrong...too small in scope...he could have just done a movie on Oklahoma.

I'm afraid it'd be a very boring movie.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on November 17, 2011, 05:18:51 PM
Seriously, BushOK, when do you go to bed?  And wake up?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 06:22:08 PM
Seriously, BushOK, when do you go to bed?  And wake up?

On work nights generally in bed by 9:00 and up by 4:30.
On days off, generally in bed by 11:00 and up by 8:00.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 07:11:42 PM
Here's the latest as of 6:00 pm CST, Thursday, November 17, 2011 -

My parents and grandmother are all on board with this endeavor.  I just had dinner with my parents this evening and they were initially concerned that I had quit my job or quitting my job.  After I assured them that I am not quitting my job and my job will not be in any danger because of a week's vacation, they really opened up.  They know it's going to be an expensive project, but they know it will be worth it.  It may give me a different perspective on life and a better idea of what life is like in a third-world country.  They are also going to help me financially with whatever I need.  I will leave for Kenya about 6 weeks before my 30th birthday and this will give me a great chance to experience something I have never experienced before right before my birthday.  We both agreed that this is both my Christmas present and my birthday present.

I will get some more information on the trip tonight at 7:00 pm when I go to our mens meeting.

I also found out the possible flight path for the journey to and from Nairobi.  It looks like from Oklahoma City, we would be flying to Chicago O'Hare and then on to Istanbul, Turkey and then on to Nairobi, Kenya.  The flight from Chicago to Turkey would be 10 hours 45 minutes going and 12 hours 10 minutes coming back to Chicago.  The journey from Turkey to Kenya is 6 hours 35 minutes both directions, and of course the journey from Oklahoma City to Chicago is just over 2 hours both directions.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: The Mikado on November 17, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
Like I said before, make sure you're up on all your shots.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 17, 2011, 08:07:32 PM
I just had dinner with my parents this evening and they were initially concerned that I had quit my job or quitting my job.

rofl


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
Like I said before, make sure you're up on all your shots.

I will be getting a TB shot, yellow fever shot, a typhoid shot, and a Tetanus shot.  I will also be purchasing Malaria tablets when I get to Nairobi.

I now have some more information, just some general notes and also a checklist of what to pack.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 17, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
You know it's very hot in Kenya?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 17, 2011, 10:41:49 PM

Yep


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on November 17, 2011, 10:49:53 PM
http://youtu.be/GfTlyuZphf8


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 17, 2011, 11:06:23 PM

Ah, good. That's something. You also know that, for the most part, they don't actually have air conditioning?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 18, 2011, 12:44:30 AM

Ah, good. That's something. You also know that, for the most part, they don't actually have air conditioning?

What about fast food restaurants?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on November 18, 2011, 01:29:18 AM
inb4 its not his church but a church that emailed him


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 09:10:30 AM

Ah, good. That's something. You also know that, for the most part, they don't actually have air conditioning?

I'm prepared for whatever weather conditions. From what I gather it will be like a June day in Oklahoma City with highs in the upper 80s to low 90s, lows in the mid 60s to low 70s and 90%+ humidity.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 18, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
inb4 its not his church but a church that emailed him

This sounds completely legitimate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 18, 2011, 01:12:48 PM
Like I said before, make sure you're up on all your shots.

I will be getting a TB shot, yellow fever shot, a typhoid shot, and a Tetanus shot.  I will also be purchasing Malaria tablets when I get to Nairobi.

I now have some more information, just some general notes and also a checklist of what to pack.
You don't need to start taking the Malaria medicine beforehand?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 03:35:52 PM
Like I said before, make sure you're up on all your shots.

I will be getting a TB shot, yellow fever shot, a typhoid shot, and a Tetanus shot.  I will also be purchasing Malaria tablets when I get to Nairobi.

I now have some more information, just some general notes and also a checklist of what to pack.
You don't need to start taking the Malaria medicine beforehand?

Apparently not, they recommend purchasing it in Kenya rather than in the States as it is a lot cheaper in Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Bacon King on November 18, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
Like I said before, make sure you're up on all your shots.

I will be getting a TB shot, yellow fever shot, a typhoid shot, and a Tetanus shot.  I will also be purchasing Malaria tablets when I get to Nairobi.

I now have some more information, just some general notes and also a checklist of what to pack.
You don't need to start taking the Malaria medicine beforehand?

Apparently not, they recommend purchasing it in Kenya rather than in the States as it is a lot cheaper in Kenya.

Quote from:  The CDC

Is it safe to buy my malaria drugs in the country where I will be traveling?

Buying medications abroad has its risks. The drugs could be of poor quality because of the way they are produced. The drugs could contain contaminants or they could be counterfeit drugs and therefore may not provide you the protection you need against malaria. In addition, some medications that are sold overseas are not used anymore in the United States or were never sold here. These drugs may not be safe or their safety has never been evaluated.

It would be best to purchase all the medications that you need before you leave the United States. As a precaution, note the name of the medication(s) and the name of the manufacturer(s). That way, in case of accidental loss, you can replace the drug(s) abroad at a reliable vendor.

http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/faqs.html


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 05:04:57 PM
Like I said before, make sure you're up on all your shots.

I will be getting a TB shot, yellow fever shot, a typhoid shot, and a Tetanus shot.  I will also be purchasing Malaria tablets when I get to Nairobi.

I now have some more information, just some general notes and also a checklist of what to pack.
You don't need to start taking the Malaria medicine beforehand?

Apparently not, they recommend purchasing it in Kenya rather than in the States as it is a lot cheaper in Kenya.

Quote from:  The CDC

Is it safe to buy my malaria drugs in the country where I will be traveling?

Buying medications abroad has its risks. The drugs could be of poor quality because of the way they are produced. The drugs could contain contaminants or they could be counterfeit drugs and therefore may not provide you the protection you need against malaria. In addition, some medications that are sold overseas are not used anymore in the United States or were never sold here. These drugs may not be safe or their safety has never been evaluated.

It would be best to purchase all the medications that you need before you leave the United States. As a precaution, note the name of the medication(s) and the name of the manufacturer(s). That way, in case of accidental loss, you can replace the drug(s) abroad at a reliable vendor.

http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/faqs.html

That's a good article.  When I see my doctor to get the vaccinations, I'll ask him what he recommends.  But, I may buy it in Oklahoma before i go based on the CDC report.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
I've got some notes from my cousin who invited me to go to Kenya.  She also gave me a personal packing list that she received at the first Kenya meeting.

Some of the notes include applying for the passport first thing.  So, after I put down my deposit, I will probably get that started.  My facebook said I hope to apply for the passport by December 7, but I may move that up to November 30 or December 1 to give them an extra week with the Christmas and New Years Holidays and vacations and time off with the workers, and the federal holidays in January and February (MLK and Prez Day).

I will also have to purchase a $50 Visa at the Nairobi Airport so I can get into the country.

I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.

I've already mentioned the vaccinations, (TB, yellow fever, typhoid, and tetanus) and the malaria tablets.

$200 spending money, so i can eat on the planes and/or airports

Total cost with the airfare, lodging, passport, spending money, vaccinations, etc, could run between $2,500 and $3,000.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 18, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.

I... don't think that's how money works?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 05:48:21 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.

I... don't think that's how money works?

Maybe not, but I'm going to trust Choctaw Road Baptist Church as they have been going to Kenya for several years now, so they are not new at this and they know what they're doing.  I'm going to go by their recommendations even if it seems a little weird as they know more than I do.  I will do my own studying on wikipedia and other websites on Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on November 18, 2011, 05:50:25 PM
Nah, Bushie's right.  The US dollar starts depreciating as soon as you take it off the lot.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on November 18, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
Yea, people in them loser countries will indeed pay more (more than the real exchange rate infact) for crisp bills.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 06:50:45 PM
Here is the website of the organization that is sponsoring all this for your review and information.

www.maishainternational.org

I think I also found the application on that website, as well.  It has the same format and the same personal packing list and notes page that my cousin gave me last night.  I'm going to verify with her tonight at Bible Study to make sure it's the same as what she filled out.  If it is, I will fill it out and turn it in with my deposit this coming Wednesday, November 23.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 18, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
An interesting side note - in Swahili, which is the official language of Kenya, The words of the 1994 Disney Classic The Lion King of "hakuna matata" means "no problems".  The movie says it means "no worries", so it's pretty much spot on.  So, not only are they real words, but the definition the movie gives is correct.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on November 18, 2011, 10:00:26 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.

oh my god...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 18, 2011, 10:26:42 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.

oh my god...

No, that is good policy and it really has nothing to do with exchange rates.  I had to pay about $130 bucks for my entry Visa into Chile. If the bill had the slightest imperfection, they kicked it back to you. I had about 300 bucks in my pocket and barely had enough acceptable cash.  Many money exchanges would work on the same principal and only accept newer, clean bills.  They are a bit scared of accepting phoney money. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 19, 2011, 12:27:13 AM
Depending on your bank (and I really have no clue if any banks normally exchange to Kenyan currency), but perhaps exchanging here would be best.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 08:48:39 AM
Depending on your bank (and I really have no clue if any banks normally exchange to Kenyan currency), but perhaps exchanging here would be best.

I've heard I can get better exchange rates in Kenya than I can in America.  I don't know if that's true or not, but it's worth investigating.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 19, 2011, 09:14:52 AM
Depending on your bank (and I really have no clue if any banks normally exchange to Kenyan currency), but perhaps exchanging here would be best.

I've heard I can get better exchange rates in Kenya than I can in America.  I don't know if that's true or not, but it's worth investigating.

It's not going to be worth the hassle to try to find the places offering good exchange rates. In practice, you will get to the airport and find you need money right away and get robbed at the airport exchange desk. But on the other hand I don't know where you'll have to go in OKC to get Kenyan currency.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 09:52:36 AM
Depending on your bank (and I really have no clue if any banks normally exchange to Kenyan currency), but perhaps exchanging here would be best.

I've heard I can get better exchange rates in Kenya than I can in America.  I don't know if that's true or not, but it's worth investigating.

It's not going to be worth the hassle to try to find the places offering good exchange rates. In practice, you will get to the airport and find you need money right away and get robbed at the airport exchange desk. But on the other hand I don't know where you'll have to go in OKC to get Kenyan currency.

Exactly


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2011, 10:38:20 AM
First off this thread is miles better than any Comedy Goldmine/Institute. Ever.
Bushie, I did 5 minutes of legwork for you, and googled Christian Kenya charity. I didn't have time to make sure this charity is 100% legit (and the internet is certainly full of scams), but if you sincerely want to make sure that $2,000 best helps the people of Kenya with Christian intent, here's one:
http://www.christianaid.org.uk/whatwedo/africa/kenya.aspx And you can't go wrong with the Red Cross either. If you want to go to Africa for some sort of personal growth experience for yourself (or just to see the world), that's great and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's no way going in person is the most effective way to spend your scarce (no offense, mine are scarce too) resources. In short, this trip is about you, not about Kenya. Consider that for a moment.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on November 19, 2011, 10:47:00 AM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.
oh my god...
No, that is good policy and it really has nothing to do with exchange rates.  I had to pay about $130 bucks for my entry Visa into Chile. If the bill had the slightest imperfection, they kicked it back to you. I had about 300 bucks in my pocket and barely had enough acceptable cash.  Many money exchanges would work on the same principal and only accept newer, clean bills.  They are a bit scared of accepting phoney money. 

Maybe I just don't have to deal with that having only been to Europe, but I've never even been asked about ratty bills I exchange. I've never heard of that in my life and I've exchanged money more times than I can count. Unless it's ripping in half or scuffed up beyond recognition, in which case I'd doubt you'd have it anyway, there should really be no problem with using used currency.

Also, you can go into most exchanges and order most currencies. Which would be more expensive but a much, MUCH better idea than waiting until you arrive at the foreign country to get their money.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
Oh. One last thing Bushie. Anytime somebody tells you they have an "opportunity" for you, they're ripping you off. It's a codeword for scam. Real opportunities and good deals don't advertise. You have to seek them out.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 11:07:56 AM
First off this thread is miles better than any Comedy Goldmine/Institute. Ever.
Bushie, I did 5 minutes of legwork for you, and googled Christian Kenya charity. I didn't have time to make sure this charity is 100% legit (and the internet is certainly full of scams), but if you sincerely want to make sure that $2,000 best helps the people of Kenya with Christian intent, here's one:
http://www.christianaid.org.uk/whatwedo/africa/kenya.aspx And you can't go wrong with the Red Cross either. If you want to go to Africa for some sort of personal growth experience for yourself (or just to see the world), that's great and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's no way going in person is the most effective way to spend your scarce (no offense, mine are scarce too) resources. In short, this trip is about you, not about Kenya. Consider that for a moment.

I'm going to go on the premise that a church, especially a church I know the members of, would not steer me wrong.  Plus, this church has been going with Maisha for several years now.

At least this is not job threatening or duping people into some phony insurance discounts.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
Apparantly, not only was Bushie born yesterday, he was born again yesterday as well.
Look, I think it's amazing that you sincerely want to help people. Seriously. Most people wouldn't go through all the trouble for strangers. That's powerful stuff! You have great intentions. That said, if it is really about helping Kenyans, you should ask yourself what is the most effective way to help them. Is it better to pay to send yourself over there or could that money be better spent on a charity, which is an expert at doing the most good with the least amount of money Because you are going through a lot of trouble just to fundraise just to be nice. And whatever you choose with this situation, of course, that's better than being a vacuum scam artist.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 01:05:08 PM
Apparantly, not only was Bushie born yesterday, he was born again yesterday as well.
Look, I think it's amazing that you sincerely want to help people. Seriously. Most people wouldn't go through all the trouble for strangers. That's powerful stuff! You have great intentions. That said, if it is really about helping Kenyans, you should ask yourself what is the most effective way to help them. Is it better to pay to send yourself over there or could that money be better spent on a charity, which is an expert at doing the most good with the least amount of money Because you are going through a lot of trouble just to fundraise just to be nice. And whatever you choose with this situation, of course, that's better than being a vacuum scam artist.

I will say, though, that I do want the experience of going overseas.  That's been one of my desires that I haven't talked much about.  I understand what you are saying that sending $2,000 is more efficient than going there, but I do want the experience of a third-world country, if only for a few days.  This will hopefully give me a much better appreciation for how well we have it in America when I see poverty first hand.  So, yeah, this is not just about helping the Kenya orphanage, but it is about giving me a better world view.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2011, 01:39:43 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on November 19, 2011, 01:53:53 PM
A friend of mine has been to Kenya. I should ask him more about his trip.


...on second thought, I don't want to give BushOK any bad ideas.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 01:58:59 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 19, 2011, 02:02:42 PM
Who do you bank with?  Bank of America and Citi both do Kenyan shillings.  I didn't go through all of the other big banks, but most big banks can do it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 02:05:10 PM
Who do you bank with?  Bank of America and Citi both do Kenyan shillings.  I didn't go through all of the other big banks, but most big banks can do it.

Chase


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 19, 2011, 02:54:59 PM
So what if the trip is about him? If his parents and grandmother decide they want to gift him with this, at least it's a contained amount of money and not some major life change.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
So what if the trip is about him? If his parents and grandmother decide they want to gift him with this, at least it's a contained amount of money and not some major life change.



Exactly, and again, it's not duping poor retired people into buying vacuums or phony discount insurance.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Јas on November 19, 2011, 02:59:53 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.
oh my god...
No, that is good policy and it really has nothing to do with exchange rates.  I had to pay about $130 bucks for my entry Visa into Chile. If the bill had the slightest imperfection, they kicked it back to you. I had about 300 bucks in my pocket and barely had enough acceptable cash.  Many money exchanges would work on the same principal and only accept newer, clean bills.  They are a bit scared of accepting phoney money. 

Maybe I just don't have to deal with that having only been to Europe, but I've never even been asked about ratty bills I exchange. I've never heard of that in my life and I've exchanged money more times than I can count. Unless it's ripping in half or scuffed up beyond recognition, in which case I'd doubt you'd have it anyway, there should really be no problem with using used currency.

Also, you can go into most exchanges and order most currencies. Which would be more expensive but a much, MUCH better idea than waiting until you arrive at the foreign country to get their money.

It's a thing that seems to apply quite broadly around Africa. It doesn't seem to even necessarily apply to worn out bills either. Haven't yet gotten a particularly good answer on why that's so yet.



Bushie, make sure you have health insurance covering you when in Kenya. Nairobi probably has the best health facilities in east Africa, but you should probably make sure you're covered for medivac anyway.

And stick to bottled water where you can.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on November 19, 2011, 03:00:36 PM
But if it's about seeing the world, wouldn't it perhaps make sense to organize this trip outside of a church mission with perhaps a different destination (somewhere in Europe for more time and less money)? Or is Africa somewhere you absolutely want to go?

I can think of much more interesting things to do with $2,000 :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 03:14:03 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.
oh my god...
No, that is good policy and it really has nothing to do with exchange rates.  I had to pay about $130 bucks for my entry Visa into Chile. If the bill had the slightest imperfection, they kicked it back to you. I had about 300 bucks in my pocket and barely had enough acceptable cash.  Many money exchanges would work on the same principal and only accept newer, clean bills.  They are a bit scared of accepting phoney money. 

Maybe I just don't have to deal with that having only been to Europe, but I've never even been asked about ratty bills I exchange. I've never heard of that in my life and I've exchanged money more times than I can count. Unless it's ripping in half or scuffed up beyond recognition, in which case I'd doubt you'd have it anyway, there should really be no problem with using used currency.

Also, you can go into most exchanges and order most currencies. Which would be more expensive but a much, MUCH better idea than waiting until you arrive at the foreign country to get their money.

It's a thing that seems to apply quite broadly around Africa. It doesn't seem to even necessarily apply to worn out bills either. Haven't yet gotten a particularly good answer on why that's so yet.



Bushie, make sure you have health insurance covering you when in Kenya. Nairobi probably has the best health facilities in east Africa, but you should probably make sure you're covered for medivac anyway.

And stick to bottled water where you can.

I will get the traveler's health insurance package that is offered, plus I will have my own health insurance from my employer, and I will definitely stick to bottled water.  In the fact, the place we're going which is the Kidjitsu area near Kisumu, supplies bottled water for brushing teeth and taking medicine, as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 03:15:38 PM
But if it's about seeing the world, wouldn't it perhaps make sense to organize this trip outside of a church mission with perhaps a different destination (somewhere in Europe for more time and less money)? Or is Africa somewhere you absolutely want to go?

I can think of much more interesting things to do with $2,000 :)

With this trip, I can do two things I've always wanted to do, travel abroad and minister to the orphans and the widows.  In fact, in the Bible, in the New Testament book of James it says that true religion is serving the widows and the fatherless (orphans).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 19, 2011, 03:29:20 PM
Can someone shutdown National Lampoon's Kenyan Vacation before it turns into another update?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 19, 2011, 03:54:27 PM
Can someone shutdown National Lampoon's Kenyan Vacation before it turns into another update?

If it turns into update, I don't care.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 19, 2011, 04:07:30 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.

What about Somali kidnappers?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 04:16:01 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.

What about Somali kidnappers?


I'm sure they'll keep us far enough away from the Somali border to keep us safe.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
I shared this on the Off Topic board just now, but the reason I want to go to Kenya is to experience something big.  My entire life I was known as the kid/guy who chickened out of everything or found some excuse so as not to do something.  I am trying to change that as I enter my 4th decade of life at the end of April.  I almost chickened out of Kenya, too, because I first knew about it two weeks ago, but declined because I wanted to go see my niece in Florida.  However, I got to thinking, that this is a big opportunity to do something unique and something that I will have a story to tell to my kids and grandkids when I am blessed to have them.  I can see my niece this summer or next Christmas if I wanted to, this is something that is hard to pass up.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2011, 05:28:23 PM
Bushie, you're NOT the chicken guy. You're the impulsive jump the gun guy. That's the complete opposite.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 05:43:53 PM
Bushie, you're NOT the chicken guy. You're the impulsive jump the gun guy. That's the complete opposite.

That's mainly the past couple years.  Before 2008, I was always making excuses not to do anything huge.  The past 3-4 years I've been trying to change that, and I'll admit have fallen flat on my face and skinned my knee quite a number of times.  This time is the tell-all, because my parents and I have agreed that if I do end up falling flat on my face again, they will not pick me back up, even if that means I have to sell my house and move in with Grandma or go to the City Rescue Mission.  They will help me get to Kenya, but I have to show some responsibility when I get home by picking up where I left off at my job and take complete control of every aspect of my life.  My mother desperately needs to retire from Tinker AFB and she plans to do that June 1 regardless of what happens to me in March.  Again, as someone said earlier, at least this is a contained amount and a respectable endeavor, even if it is a large amount, it is contained, and not a wild adventure in the scam world.  I also told them that if I thought my job would in any way be threatened by going to Kenya, I would stay home and opt for my 3 or 4 day vacation to Florida instead.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2011, 07:40:14 PM
Can someone shutdown National Lampoon's Kenyan Vacation before it turns into another update?

If it turns into update, I don't care.

Favorite. Mod. Ever.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 19, 2011, 08:40:47 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.

What about Somali kidnappers?


I'm sure they'll keep us far enough away from the Somali border to keep us safe.

And the people who've been kidnapped before *didn't* think they were far enough from the border to be safe?

Obviously, you should be armed at all times just to be safe.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Yelnoc on November 19, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.

What about Somali kidnappers?


I'm sure they'll keep us far enough away from the Somali border to keep us safe.

And the people who've been kidnapped before *didn't* think they were far enough from the border to be safe?

Obviously, you should be armed at all times just to be safe.


How does one go about buying arms in Kenya, looking as Bushie does and speaking only English?  Because I doubt the plane will accommodate his rifles.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 08:48:19 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.

What about Somali kidnappers?


I'm sure they'll keep us far enough away from the Somali border to keep us safe.

And the people who've been kidnapped before *didn't* think they were far enough from the border to be safe?

Obviously, you should be armed at all times just to be safe.


How does one go about buying arms in Kenya, looking as Bushie does and speaking only English?  Because I doubt the plane will accommodate his rifles.

If I carried a rifle, the safest place would be in front of the rifle.  There's no telling what I'll hit with a gun.  You could be behind my back and be introduced to a pellet.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 19, 2011, 08:53:04 PM
Nothing wrong with wanting to see the world. I do too, and I'm not a good enough person to do charity work on my travels. However, you REALLY need to do some homework before even signing up to go to Africa. A good place to begin is wikitravel.org They aren't nearly as professional as wikipedia, but they are geared toward travellers and have some good info. At the very least please, please, please read their article on kenya before comitting to going. Please don't be offended, but you tend to make decisions before weighing all the facts. Know what you're getting into before you sign up. And find out from the mission people where you'll be staying, if there will be a toilet, what will you eat, etc. And make sure your employer is cool with it too. We don't need another job search thread. And one last thing, try not to use the phrase "third-world." It's old fashioned and rubs people the wrong way. By very low African standards, Kenya isn't even that poor a country.

I checked Wikitravel on Africa, and I didn't see very many warnings or caution signs on Kenya, other than the high HIV/AIDS population, which I already knew.

What about Somali kidnappers?


I'm sure they'll keep us far enough away from the Somali border to keep us safe.

And the people who've been kidnapped before *didn't* think they were far enough from the border to be safe?

Obviously, you should be armed at all times just to be safe.


Kisumu is in the western part of the country near the Uganda border.  Somalia is to the east of Kenya.  It's American Twin City is Roanoke, Virginia with about 320,000 people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisumu


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on November 19, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
Buddy I am proud of you for being so devoted to your faith! This sounds like a GREAT opportunity.  Going across the world is a cultural experience and grows you as a person


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on November 20, 2011, 01:42:56 AM
That $2000 would be better spent on an engagement ring.  Oh and God has a magic money tree that will finance your trip and protect your job too!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 20, 2011, 02:16:14 AM
That $2000 would be better spent on an engagement ring.  Oh and God has a magic money tree that will finance your trip and protect your job too!

Pat, stop being a d!ck. Despite our general assholery as a group, ok has managed to pick himself off the canvas after many setbacks. It does trouble me that he is even bringing up the issue of job security for a week vacation, but we shouldnt throw up past mistakes in his face.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 07:16:50 AM
Buddy I am proud of you for being so devoted to your faith! This sounds like a GREAT opportunity.  Going across the world is a cultural experience and grows you as a person

Thank you! I will hopefully find out today or tomorrow if there is indeed room on the trip, which I believe there should be.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 07:42:30 AM
The waiting game will come to an end in 6 1/2 hours.  He wants me to call him at my 1:15 break this afternoon.  Good news should be awaiting!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on November 20, 2011, 02:05:41 PM
That $2000 would be better spent on an engagement ring.  Oh and God has a magic money tree that will finance your trip and protect your job too!

Pat, stop being a d!ck. Despite our general assholery as a group, ok has managed to pick himself off the canvas after many setbacks. It does trouble me that he is even bringing up the issue of job security for a week vacation, but we shouldnt throw up past mistakes in his face.

Pardon the sarcasm, but the $2000 should be going to other things.  He needs a savings account I'm sure.  The phrase GET REAL applies here. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 20, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
Wondering how the 1:15 meeting is going. Oh to be a fly on that wall. It'd be better than the supercommittee meting.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
Wondering how the 1:15 meeting is going. Oh to be a fly on that wall. It'd be better than the supercommittee meting.

He's having to tend to his wife who just burned her hand, so he will give me a call a little later today.  He sent me a text asking if that would be okay.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 20, 2011, 03:22:36 PM
But if it's about seeing the world, wouldn't it perhaps make sense to organize this trip outside of a church mission with perhaps a different destination (somewhere in Europe for more time and less money)? Or is Africa somewhere you absolutely want to go?

I can think of much more interesting things to do with $2,000 :)

If you're going to go somewhere different, then actually go somewhere different. Europe doesn't count.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on November 20, 2011, 04:05:14 PM
... It does trouble me that he is even bringing up the issue of job security for a week vacation,

That is the plight of the working class in the neoliberal non-unionized america of today, patrick.  Workers simply cannot ask for any time off - they will be replaced with other desperates.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 20, 2011, 05:29:29 PM
This thread received an A+ rating when I saw BushOK address "hakuna matata" from The Lion King.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 20, 2011, 05:31:53 PM
I will also need crisp, fresh dollar bills (2006 or newer) as they have a better exchange rate.

I... don't think that's how money works?

Guys, I honestly can't remember the last time I laughed as hard as I just did.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 20, 2011, 06:26:05 PM
Some words of note/warning...

Kenya is a favoured spot for more... charismatic Christian Churches, considering 83% of Kenya is Christian, the majority of these are mainline protestants, don't really go to convert the small Muslim community - they tend to go to convert other Christians to their more... fire and brimstone beliefs.

A friend from School went on a mission to a small town outside Nairobi, which is largely Catholic. When asking why they came to this village, rather than trying to work in the Muslim areas in Coast province - he was told "it's too difficult, these people are already halfway there", plus Kenya is perfect as being sub-Saharan Africa, but with a small Muslim population and a lower HIV rate than Botswana, Zimbabwe and South Africa.

He became increasingly disenchanted, considered the whole process incredibly insulting to the otherwise intelligent locals. And he no longer is a participant in any Church.

But from my experience of traveling in Kenya, which is a beautiful country full of good people. Don't even try exchanging money there... you will get screwed. Go into a large bank chain and most will be able to order you some Kenyan currency in. Same thing goes for medication, I took everything before I left. There is a market in counterfeit malaria medications.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 20, 2011, 07:58:36 PM
But if it's about seeing the world, wouldn't it perhaps make sense to organize this trip outside of a church mission with perhaps a different destination (somewhere in Europe for more time and less money)? Or is Africa somewhere you absolutely want to go?

I can think of much more interesting things to do with $2,000 :)

If you're going to go somewhere different, then actually go somewhere different. Europe doesn't count.
This was my reaction to London when I was there. Hate to be the spoiled white kid complaining about a vacation abroad, but I went a long way to visit a place that wasn't all that different than Canada. Next time I have the money for an international vacation (ha ha), I want to go to Turkey. I'm thinking it's just exotic enough without being scary.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on November 20, 2011, 07:59:49 PM
This sounds almost like when NY Jews go to Miami to convert people. Except nicer, and less expensive.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 20, 2011, 08:18:25 PM
This sounds almost like when NY Jews go to Miami to convert people. Except nicer, and less expensive.
Talking about the chabads who try to get secular Jews to practice? Cause Jews don't usually do the evangelize thing. Once when I was in college, I was minding my own business, reading on a bench on lovely Fall day, and one of those guys asked me if I wanted to do this little ritual. I guess it was a good enough bet that I was Jewish between at Tulane, dark hair, big nose. I would loved to have seen what went down when the kids he approached weren't Jewish.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 20, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
This was my reaction to London when I was there. Hate to be the spoiled white kid complaining about a vacation abroad, but I went a long way to visit a place that wasn't all that different than Canada. Next time I have the money for an international vacation (ha ha), I want to go to Turkey. I'm thinking it's just exotic enough without being scary.

How about Glasgow?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 20, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
This sounds almost like when NY Jews go to Miami to convert people. Except nicer, and less expensive.
Talking about the chabads who try to get secular Jews to practice? Cause Jews don't usually do the evangelize thing. Once when I was in college, I was minding my own business, reading on a bench on lovely Fall day, and one of those guys asked me if I wanted to do this little ritual. I guess it was a good enough bet that I was Jewish between at Tulane, dark hair, big nose. I would loved to have seen what went down when the kids he approached weren't Jewish.

I think the "at Tulane" was enough to make that assumption.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 20, 2011, 08:45:39 PM
This was my reaction to London when I was there. Hate to be the spoiled white kid complaining about a vacation abroad, but I went a long way to visit a place that wasn't all that different than Canada. Next time I have the money for an international vacation (ha ha), I want to go to Turkey. I'm thinking it's just exotic enough without being scary.

How about Glasgow?

Haven't been. You recommend? I really liked London. And I took a day trip out to Stonehenge, Bath, and Salisbury, which was nice as well. Also, flew to Berlin while I was in the neighborhood for a few days.  It was my first(and only) time away from North America. All in all, a good time. I just think I'm ready for something a little more advanced, travel wise. Kenya would be a little much for me though. I'm sure it's a lovely country, but not high enough on the Human Development Index for my comfort zone. I'm not super fussy, but I want a certain level of infrastructure when I travel, which is almost always someplace in the States anyhow.  But I have my travel fantasies, as I suspect many others do as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
I have heard from the trip organizor and the main question I asked him was there still room on the trip.  He answered in the affirmative.  My cousin pointed out that it may be because it's still just a few days shy of 4 months away.

Now, that I know there is room, I am going to try to talk to him some tomorrow evening in a little more depth about the trip and then put down the deposit before Thanksgiving.  After Thanksgiving, my first order of business will be to apply for my passport on either November 30 or December 1 and get that started.

Sometime in early December, I am going to sit down with my cousin and hash out our game plan of preparation for the remaining 3 months until we leave.

Then, in early January, I'm going to start gathering things together that I might need to take and purchase what I need to purchase.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 20, 2011, 09:56:53 PM
Then, in early January, I'm going to start gathering things together that I might need to take and purchase what I need to purchase.

Will this interfere with Easter decorating?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
Then, in early January, I'm going to start gathering things together that I might need to take and purchase what I need to purchase.

Will this interfere with Easter decorating?

I don't normally 'decorate' for Easter, I normally just reflect on the death and resurrection of Christ.  Plus, Easter isn't until April 8, so I won't miss the actual celebration.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 20, 2011, 10:02:45 PM
Then, in early January, I'm going to start gathering things together that I might need to take and purchase what I need to purchase.

Will this interfere with Easter decorating?

The better question is whether this will interfere with his taking down his Christmas displays.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 10:02:55 PM
Anyway, according to my calcuations and the verbal commitments I have gotten over the phone just this evening, by the first weekend of December, I will have raised $900 for my trip including the deposit, passport, and a big chunk toward the airfare.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 20, 2011, 10:05:29 PM
Then, in early January, I'm going to start gathering things together that I might need to take and purchase what I need to purchase.

Will this interfere with Easter decorating?

The better question is whether this will interfere with his taking down his Christmas displays.

No, since I put the decorations up so early, even I get tired of them by December 26, so they are usually down and put away and my house back to normal before New Years, usually around December 27-29 time frame.  This year, I will probably take it down on December 28.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on November 20, 2011, 10:30:58 PM
Then, in early January, I'm going to start gathering things together that I might need to take and purchase what I need to purchase.

Will this interfere with Easter decorating?

The better question is whether this will interfere with his taking down his Christmas displays.

No, since I put the decorations up so early, even I get tired of them by December 26, so they are usually down and put away and my house back to normal before New Years, usually around December 27-29 time frame.  This year, I will probably take it down on December 28.
I'm sure we've had this conversation before, but no love for the Epiphany? You can have an extra two weeks of Christmas. Yes, you can!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 20, 2011, 10:48:32 PM
I've confronted BushOK on this before. Decorations should remain up until at least the Epiphany.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 20, 2011, 11:20:42 PM
Can someone shutdown National Lampoon's Kenyan Vacation before it turns into another update?

If it turns into update, I don't care.

Favorite. Mod. Ever.

:') - tears of happiness


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on November 21, 2011, 02:27:17 AM
Bushie, are you focusing more on this or Christmas?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 06:09:43 AM
Bushie, are you focusing more on this or Christmas?

Really, both equally, with a slight edge to Christmas.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on November 21, 2011, 04:32:05 PM
I don't really get where some of the negativity in this thread is coming from. I think it'd be good for the guy to go somewhere different and see the world. This church has done this trip multiple times; I'm sure it'll all be fine. Bushie has made a lot (A LOT) of boneheaded moves in the past few years but I don't really see how this is one of them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on November 21, 2011, 04:49:39 PM
I don't really get where some of the negativity in this thread is coming from. I think it'd be good for the guy to go somewhere different and see the world. This church has done this trip multiple times; I'm sure it'll all be fine. Bushie has made a lot (A LOT) of boneheaded moves in the past few years but I don't really see how this is one of them.

Yes, agreed, Suze Orman would scream "denied" on this trip if he called into her show... but people make decisions considerably more destructive than this all the time, and it will be a great experience.  


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 21, 2011, 06:16:38 PM
Anyway, according to my calcuations and the verbal commitments I have gotten over the phone just this evening, by the first weekend of December, I will have raised $900 for my trip including the deposit, passport, and a big chunk toward the airfare.

How the hell does that even cover that?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Gustaf on November 21, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
I'm disappointed that my question received no answer. Oh, well.

I'll also add that I agree with the negativity being a bit bizarre. This may not exactly be a wise move, but it's hardly disastrous either.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 07:46:53 PM
Anyway, according to my calcuations and the verbal commitments I have gotten over the phone just this evening, by the first weekend of December, I will have raised $900 for my trip including the deposit, passport, and a big chunk toward the airfare.

How the hell does that even cover that?

It won't cover all of it, for sure, but it will cover quite a bit

I'm disappointed that my question received no answer. Oh, well.

Gustaf, no I'm not being called to up and move to Kenya.  I'm just being led to lend my hand in whatever way I can for the 3 or 4 days we'll be there.  The trip is a week long, but you can probably estimate 2 days to get there and 2 days to get back which only leaves 3, maybe 4, days to serve on the ground.

Anyway, a new update.  I talked to the guy over the phone for the first time this evening after work.  I've been talking to him via texting before now.  I am going to fax the application in tomorrow and then talk to him in person and lay down the deposit on Wednesday, November 30.  I will hopefully apply for the passport the same day.

The trip is $850 + $1500 airfare, so $2350 total plus passport, shots, and spending money.  It's a little more than I originally thought, but I'm going with the flow and it's not excessively more.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 21, 2011, 07:57:06 PM
Don't you still owe your parents a bunch of money?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 08:25:12 PM

I do owe them some money, but we have never actually counted how much it is, because I could never repay them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
Would you look at that... Through all the commitments I have already secured, I have my trip pretty well paid for already.  In fact, I have over $3,200 at my disposal if I need it.  The airfare is $1500, the trip itself is $850, spending money/visa money is $200, passport is $135.  All together that is $2685.  The deposit is $250, so that brings the balance down to $2435.  The passport is $135, so balance is now $2300.  My grandmother will give me $300 at the beginning of December and the beginning of January, so balance is now $1700.  I will contribute $200 in December, January, February, and March, so that's now $900.  I have secured donations from my brother and his wife for Christmas and my missionary friends from China also for Christmas, probably $100 each.  The balance is now $700.  My grandmother will give me another $300 at the beginning of February to bring it down to $400.  I will contribute my own spending/visa money, so that's now $200.  That leaves my mother and dad only having to contribute $200.  That's not even including if my church can help me out some.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
The dates have been modified to March 16-25, instead of March 16-23.  So, if I switch to a Monday-Friday schedule again, I will only have to take 6 days for the trip and 1 day for jet lag recovery for a total of 7 days (56 hours).  Under the current 4/10 schedule, I would have to take 70 hours leave which would definitely not work.  So, I am going to switch my schedule the first of January.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
I also just realized I could fax from my home computer and scanner, so I just sent him my app via fax!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 21, 2011, 10:18:18 PM
Would you look at that... Through all the commitments I have already secured, I have my trip pretty well paid for already.  In fact, I have over $3,200 at my disposal if I need it.  The airfare is $1500, the trip itself is $850, spending money/visa money is $200, passport is $135.  All together that is $2685.  The deposit is $250, so that brings the balance down to $2435.  The passport is $135, so balance is now $2300.  My grandmother will give me $300 at the beginning of December and the beginning of January, so balance is now $1700.  I will contribute $200 in December, January, February, and March, so that's now $900.  I have secured donations from my brother and his wife for Christmas and my missionary friends from China also for Christmas, probably $100 each.  The balance is now $700.  My grandmother will give me another $300 at the beginning of February to bring it down to $400.  I will contribute my own spending/visa money, so that's now $200.  That leaves my mother and dad only having to contribute $200.  That's not even including if my church can help me out some.

Um... $150 for spending money?

Ah... ha... when it comes to spending money always over estimate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on November 21, 2011, 10:20:23 PM
While your rule there is certainly a good one, $150 is over 13,000 Kenyan shillings.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 21, 2011, 10:21:07 PM
Would you look at that... Through all the commitments I have already secured, I have my trip pretty well paid for already.  In fact, I have over $3,200 at my disposal if I need it.  The airfare is $1500, the trip itself is $850, spending money/visa money is $200, passport is $135.  All together that is $2685.  The deposit is $250, so that brings the balance down to $2435.  The passport is $135, so balance is now $2300.  My grandmother will give me $300 at the beginning of December and the beginning of January, so balance is now $1700.  I will contribute $200 in December, January, February, and March, so that's now $900.  I have secured donations from my brother and his wife for Christmas and my missionary friends from China also for Christmas, probably $100 each.  The balance is now $700.  My grandmother will give me another $300 at the beginning of February to bring it down to $400.  I will contribute my own spending/visa money, so that's now $200.  That leaves my mother and dad only having to contribute $200.  That's not even including if my church can help me out some.

Um... $150 for spending money?

Ah... ha... when it comes to spending money always over estimate.

It may be more than that, but I've got extra money available should I need it!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Јas on November 22, 2011, 03:35:55 AM
While your rule there is certainly a good one, $150 is over 13,000 Kenyan shillings.

Your point being?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 22, 2011, 08:43:53 AM
I'll also add that I agree with the negativity being a bit bizarre. This may not exactly be a wise move, but it's hardly disastrous either.

It certainly isn't the most idiotic thing he's done in his life.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 22, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
He did receive the application this morning and is reviewing it.  The next three days I'm going to pour over the budget quite a bit and look at the website more and get more ideas of what to do.  I'm about to show the website to my mother this evening for the first time and let her look at it.

I do want to thank the forum, for the most part, you have been very receptive of this idea and I haven't heard any scathing criticisms of this adventure.  Even the negativity I have received hasn't been mean or nasty and I have pretty much just laughed it off.  I think this is the first adventure I've taken in the past two or three years that the forum as a collective group actually approves of.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 23, 2011, 10:23:05 PM
There were really no further developments today, nor will there be the rest of the weekend because of Thanksgiving.  However, I did show the Maisha website to my mother last night (I'm spending 3 nights with them), and she was impressed by what she saw.  She said it will certainly be different for me, but she thinks it will be good for me to go out there and experience a whole new culture.  I have 113 days until I leave, which is about 3 months and 3 weeks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 25, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
BUMP...

There is a Kenya update that i forgot about when I updated Wednesday Night.  This is also a work update combined into one.

One of my coworkers is considering my offer of a schedule swap with me effective Saturday, December 31, 2011, taking my 4/10 schedule (6:00-17:00 Saturday-Tuesday) and me taking his 9:45-18:45 M-F schedule.

What this schedule would do for me is two-fold.  (1) It would give me my Sundays back and allow me to worship at church every week like I long to do.  (2) It would also allow me to take fewer hours of leave when I go to Kenya.  The trip is Friday, March 16 - Sunday, March 25, 2012.  Under my current schedule, I would have to take minimum 60 hours, probably 70 hours because of jet lag recovery on Monday, March 26, 2012.  By switching to a regular Monday-Friday work week, I would only have to take minimum 48 hours possibly 56 hours with the same jet lag recovery.  That would give me more leave for the remainder of 2012, especially if I encounter icy roads in January, February, March or December.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 26, 2011, 08:38:02 PM
I just filled out the passport application and will turn it in along with the appropriate fees and get the passport photo taken this coming Wednesday, November 30, 2011!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 26, 2011, 08:58:27 PM
BUMP...

There is a Kenya update that i forgot about when I updated Wednesday Night.  This is also a work update combined into one.

One of my coworkers is considering my offer of a schedule swap with me effective Saturday, December 31, 2011, taking my 4/10 schedule (6:00-17:00 Saturday-Tuesday) and me taking his 9:45-18:45 M-F schedule.

What this schedule would do for me is two-fold.  (1) It would give me my Sundays back and allow me to worship at church every week like I long to do.  (2) It would also allow me to take fewer hours of leave when I go to Kenya.  The trip is Friday, March 16 - Sunday, March 25, 2012.  Under my current schedule, I would have to take minimum 60 hours, probably 70 hours because of jet lag recovery on Monday, March 26, 2012.  By switching to a regular Monday-Friday work week, I would only have to take minimum 48 hours possibly 56 hours with the same jet lag recovery.  That would give me more leave for the remainder of 2012, especially if I encounter icy roads in January, February, March or December.

Haha, the update is back baby.  Honestly though, you CANNOT miss work for some snow my man and no motel stays either.   Good luck in the planning of your trip. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 26, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
BUMP...

There is a Kenya update that i forgot about when I updated Wednesday Night.  This is also a work update combined into one.

One of my coworkers is considering my offer of a schedule swap with me effective Saturday, December 31, 2011, taking my 4/10 schedule (6:00-17:00 Saturday-Tuesday) and me taking his 9:45-18:45 M-F schedule.

What this schedule would do for me is two-fold.  (1) It would give me my Sundays back and allow me to worship at church every week like I long to do.  (2) It would also allow me to take fewer hours of leave when I go to Kenya.  The trip is Friday, March 16 - Sunday, March 25, 2012.  Under my current schedule, I would have to take minimum 60 hours, probably 70 hours because of jet lag recovery on Monday, March 26, 2012.  By switching to a regular Monday-Friday work week, I would only have to take minimum 48 hours possibly 56 hours with the same jet lag recovery.  That would give me more leave for the remainder of 2012, especially if I encounter icy roads in January, February, March or December.

Haha, the update is back baby.  Honestly though, you CANNOT miss work for some snow my man and no motel stays either.   Good luck in the planning of your trip.  

If there is a motel stay to be had, it will be because my employer would put me up there so I can be closer to work.

And, yes, the update has returned by proxy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 26, 2011, 09:43:09 PM

Obligatory:

http://darthno.ytmnd.com/


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 26, 2011, 09:43:31 PM
I wouldn't  expect nor ask for a motel stay, Bushie.  I also wouldn't express any trepidation about driving in the weather to your co-workers or bosses.  It is a phobia that is best expressed to the forum if at all.  

From my experience, any weakness is typically used against you in the workplace. So I wouldnt even use a jet lag rest day excuse for that additional day- just say you are getting back that day.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 26, 2011, 10:10:03 PM
I wouldn't  expect nor ask for a motel stay, Bushie.  I also wouldn't express any trepidation about driving in the weather to your co-workers or bosses.  It is a phobia that is best expressed to the forum if at all. 

From my experience, any weakness is typically used against you in the workplace. So I wouldnt even use a jet lag rest day excuse for that additional day- just say you are getting back that day.

I definitely don't mention either scenario around the workplace.  I'm trying my darndest to get on permanent in January, and I'm not going to let anything ruin it.  January happens to be my supervisor's projection of when to get me on permanent.  I don't know if that's early January, mid January, or late January.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 26, 2011, 10:13:45 PM
I wouldn't  expect nor ask for a motel stay, Bushie.  I also wouldn't express any trepidation about driving in the weather to your co-workers or bosses.  It is a phobia that is best expressed to the forum if at all. 

From my experience, any weakness is typically used against you in the workplace. So I wouldnt even use a jet lag rest day excuse for that additional day- just say you are getting back that day.

I definitely don't mention either scenario around the workplace.  I'm trying my darndest to get on permanent in January, and I'm not going to let anything ruin it.  January happens to be my supervisor's projection of when to get me on permanent.  I don't know if that's early January, mid January, or late January.

Cool man and good luck.  What are your rules for asking time off?  I personally wouldnt ask for the time off until you have to and you have a permanent role.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 27, 2011, 01:02:25 AM
If there is a motel stay to be had, it will be because my employer would put me up there so I can be closer to work.

Do employers really do that? It seems like it would cost more than whatever they gain from your working that day.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 27, 2011, 01:18:37 AM
If there is a motel stay to be had, it will be because my employer would put me up there so I can be closer to work.

Do employers really do that? It seems like it would cost more than whatever they gain from your working that day.

Maybe if you are a baller on Wall Street and there is a blackout, blizzard or something. No motel sixes for that crowd though.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 27, 2011, 06:15:55 AM
If there is a motel stay to be had, it will be because my employer would put me up there so I can be closer to work.

Do employers really do that? It seems like it would cost more than whatever they gain from your working that day.

I know quite a few around here who do that.  I've heard the motel Dell uses is a Holiday Inn about 1.5 miles away down the same road.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 27, 2011, 10:18:13 AM
I wouldn't  expect nor ask for a motel stay, Bushie.  I also wouldn't express any trepidation about driving in the weather to your co-workers or bosses.  It is a phobia that is best expressed to the forum if at all. 

From my experience, any weakness is typically used against you in the workplace. So I wouldnt even use a jet lag rest day excuse for that additional day- just say you are getting back that day.

I definitely don't mention either scenario around the workplace.  I'm trying my darndest to get on permanent in January, and I'm not going to let anything ruin it.  January happens to be my supervisor's projection of when to get me on permanent.  I don't know if that's early January, mid January, or late January.

Cool man and good luck.  What are your rules for asking time off?  I personally wouldnt ask for the time off until you have to and you have a permanent role.

I did go ahead and ask for the time off because it is our spring break week and he only allows 1 agent off per day, so I had to get my dibs in early.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 28, 2011, 10:14:21 PM
I'm having so much fun looking at possible flight paths going to and from Nairobi. Interesting cities showing up such as

Memphis, Tennessee;
Atlanta, Georgia;
Detroit, Michigan;
Chicago, Illinois;
Newark, New Jersey;
Dallas, Texas;
Detroit, Michigan;
Los Angeles, California;
London, England;
Amsterdam, Netherlands;
Istanbul, Turkey;
Dubai, United Arab Emirates;
Frankfurt, Germany;
Zurich, Switzerland;
Brussels, Belgium;
even Addis Ababa, Ethiopia showed up.

Some extremely long flights and layovers await. Up to 16 hour flights (Dubai to Dallas) and up to 12 hour layovers.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Ebowed on November 29, 2011, 06:31:23 AM
Get the permanent status first, then ask for time off.....


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on November 29, 2011, 07:02:59 AM
I'm having so much fun looking at possible flight paths going to and from Nairobi. Interesting cities showing up such as

Memphis, Tennessee;
Atlanta, Georgia;
Detroit, Michigan;
Chicago, Illinois;
Newark, New Jersey;
Dallas, Texas;
Detroit, Michigan;
Los Angeles, California;
London, England;
Amsterdam, Netherlands;
Istanbul, Turkey;
Dubai, United Arab Emirates;
Frankfurt, Germany;
Zurich, Switzerland;
Brussels, Belgium;
even Addis Ababa, Ethiopia showed up.

Some extremely long flights and layovers await. Up to 16 hour flights (Dubai to Dallas) and up to 12 hour layovers.

Nothing out of the ordinary there. Aren't the flights being booked for everyone by your tour organizer....or is it every man for himself?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on November 29, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Get the permanent status first, then ask for time off.....


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 29, 2011, 04:46:54 PM
Surely it would be booked by an organizer. It doesn't make sense for it to be a free for all when finding flights.

Are you sure it's smart to take time off work for this? Aren't you still a temp? If so, I'm not sure they will retain you if you are taking trips to Kenya for extended periods of time.

If this is something that interests you, why not become a full time missionary? I've heard of people going to Africa and other places to risk their lives to spread the message of Jesus. Just do it all the time, and update us on your journey!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 29, 2011, 06:54:11 PM
It is being planned by an organizer.  They will book the flights the second week of January.  In fact, I'm going to talk to the trip organizer tomorrow in his office and officially put down my deposit.

I am still a temp, but I have been told that I will be on permanent before February 1.  He's just waiting on one thing right now, and that may not come in until late December or January.  Once he does that he will submit the req order to open up my position, but I will be on permament by February 1.  I've already told my supervisor about the trip and he is okay with it.

I'm changing my schedule at the first of January to a Monday-Friday schedule so I can take fewer hours off.  I would only be taking 56 hours with that schedule as opposed to 70 hours with the schedule I have now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 30, 2011, 01:25:16 PM
I went up to the church office and talked to the trip organizer this morning for about 5 minutes and put down $300.  I also applied for my passport in Downtown Oklahoma City.

I now have $1200 left to put in toward my airfare within the next 5 1/2 weeks by Saturday, January 7, 2012.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 30, 2011, 02:11:09 PM
How will this affect your love life? Please fill us in on all details.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 30, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
How will this affect your love life? Please fill us in on all details.

Since I don't have a girlfriend right now, this won't affect it at all.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on November 30, 2011, 11:44:21 PM
I went up to the church office and talked to the trip organizer this morning for about 5 minutes and put down $300.  I also applied for my passport in Downtown Oklahoma City.

I now have $1200 left to put in toward my airfare within the next 5 1/2 weeks by Saturday, January 7, 2012.



Do you live far from the passport office?  Why go out of your way to apply for something you can do through the mail?  I had to go in person once but my flight was in two days.

Am I misunderstanding you or are you really paying for this trip in cash.? Seems rather inconvenient/archaic.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 30, 2011, 11:51:13 PM
I went up to the church office and talked to the trip organizer this morning for about 5 minutes and put down $300.  I also applied for my passport in Downtown Oklahoma City.

I now have $1200 left to put in toward my airfare within the next 5 1/2 weeks by Saturday, January 7, 2012.



Do you live far from the passport office?  Why go out of your way to apply for something you can do through the mail?  I had to go in person once but my flight was in two days.

Am I misunderstanding you or are you really paying for this trip in cash.? Seems rather inconvenient/archaic.

I only live 7 miles from the passport office, so it wasn't too bad of a trip.

We're not paying just in cash. There will be other methods of donation by different people.  Cash/Check will be the most common, I imagine, but there is a website I have directed my family and friends to make tax-deductible donations toward my trip.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on December 01, 2011, 12:20:10 AM
I was confused- I thought you went to like the US state departments passport office, but they dont even have a regional office in OKC.  I just recoiled because I remember waiting in a 4 hour line.   That is why I just print out my application and mail in my pics now.

Thanks for explaining.  I'm just so used to putting down a c.c. these days for everything.

Hopefully, the organizers can get you a good flight with a short layover.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on December 01, 2011, 12:24:13 AM
Suze Orman while obnoxious I have to agree with her DENIED DENIED DENIED!!!!!  Bushie, you have to help yourself before you help others.  Do you have a sizable savings account?  A 401(k) or Roth IRA?  Dude, seriously this is PAINFUL to see.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 01, 2011, 02:36:10 AM
Suze Orman while obnoxious I have to agree with her DENIED DENIED DENIED!!!!!  Bushie, you have to help yourself before you help others.  Do you have a sizable savings account?  A 401(k) or Roth IRA?  Dude, seriously this is PAINFUL to see.

If other people are chipping in, it's really not that much money.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 01, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
Suze Orman while obnoxious I have to agree with her DENIED DENIED DENIED!!!!!  Bushie, you have to help yourself before you help others.  Do you have a sizable savings account?  A 401(k) or Roth IRA?  Dude, seriously this is PAINFUL to see.

If other people are chipping in, it's really not that much money.

Correct, Xahar.  Through the commitments I have already received, I pretty much
have my trip paid for except for maybe the $200-$250 spending money/visa money, and that will be quickly covered, as well.  All of this is with minimal investments from myself.

Flyers, I understand where you're coming from, and if it weren't for these financial commitments from friends and family, I wouldn't even think about going.  I would probably just stick with my original March plan and go visit my niece in Florida.

I was confused- I thought you went to like the US state departments passport office, but they dont even have a regional office in OKC.  I just recoiled because I remember waiting in a 4 hour line.   That is why I just print out my application and mail in my pics now.

Thanks for explaining.  I'm just so used to putting down a c.c. these days for everything.

Hopefully, the organizers can get you a good flight with a short layover.

Yeah, I just went to the Downtown Oklahoma City Post Office and was only there for 30 minutes as I had printed out the application and filled it out from home before hand.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 02, 2011, 05:23:29 PM
I just had a nice contribution to my account.  My friends from college who are missionaries to China and are home in Enid, Oklahoma for 5 months have put $250 in my account.  With my deposit, I am now at $550 already in my account.  I am $2000 away from having my trip completely paid for and have that much, if not more, in commitments!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 05, 2011, 07:47:59 PM
A little update.

My fundraising is off to a wonderful start! As of yesterday morning, I had $550 in my trip account.  By last night, I had $800.  By tomorrow night, I will jump to $1800.  By the end of this week, I will be sitting at $2100 raised.  That will leave only $500 left for the trip plus my 2 shots at the end of February.  That will include $250 spending/visa money.  I think I'm the fastest fund raiser in the group!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 05, 2011, 10:25:35 PM
Wait, this is 12 pages now? Is it the new Update thread?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 06, 2011, 06:15:16 AM
Wait, this is 12 pages now? Is it the new Update thread?

Welcome to Update Redux!!  Eventually, I may update things other than just Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on December 06, 2011, 06:45:06 AM
You know, I wouldn't entirely put it past you to do the whole Kenya thing just in order to have an excuse to start up the Update again ;)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 06, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
Eventually, I may update things other than just Kenya.

Please!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 07, 2011, 12:23:54 PM
I just crossed underneath 100 days until the day I leave for Kenya begins.  I've already got $1800 in the bank for my trip and I've got another $600 coming within the next 4 weeks, bringing me up to $2400.  That will leave me with just spending money and shot money, which may be a grand total of $300 remaining.  The good news is, I have that $300 coming in February.

In other news, if you've been following facebook over the past three weeks, I've been on a mission to lose weight.  I had lost a total of 13 pounds at my best, and I've been hovering between 10 and 13 pounds lost for pretty much the past week.  As of this morning, I am sitting at 11 1/2 pounds down.  It would have been at least 12 1/2 pounds this morning, but I had an Oreo Cookie and Milk snack last night.

What I'm doing, though, to lose weight is when I get a hamburger, I'm leaving off the cheese, leaving off the fries, and either get a Diet Dr. Pepper or return home and get a Coke Zero.  I've switched primarily to Coke Zero since it has no calories.  I have maybe one regular Coke or Dr. Pepper every 3 or 4 days.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on December 07, 2011, 12:25:50 PM
I need to follow some of those tips... Used to be proud of my beef but now it's just inconvenient


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on December 07, 2011, 12:27:12 PM
It would have been at least 12 1/2 pounds this morning, but I had an Oreo Cookie and Milk snack last night.

What I'm doing, though, to lose weight is when I get a hamburger, I'm leaving off the cheese, leaving off the fries, and either get a Diet Dr. Pepper or return home and get a Coke Zero.  I've switched primarily to Coke Zero since it has no calories.  I have maybe one regular Coke or Dr. Pepper every 3 or 4 days.

Dude, skipping the cheese isn't really going to make a ton of difference when you're still having a hamburger.  Stop eating burgers generally, and IF you're going to indulge/reward yourself...go all out.  But don't justify eating bad food because you've made it slightly less bad.

Start cooking for yourself.  



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 07, 2011, 12:34:25 PM
It would have been at least 12 1/2 pounds this morning, but I had an Oreo Cookie and Milk snack last night.

What I'm doing, though, to lose weight is when I get a hamburger, I'm leaving off the cheese, leaving off the fries, and either get a Diet Dr. Pepper or return home and get a Coke Zero.  I've switched primarily to Coke Zero since it has no calories.  I have maybe one regular Coke or Dr. Pepper every 3 or 4 days.

Dude, skipping the cheese isn't really going to make a ton of difference when you're still having a hamburger.  Stop eating burgers generally, and IF you're going to indulge/reward yourself...go all out.  But don't justify eating bad food because you've made it slightly less bad.

Start cooking for yourself. 



A hamburger without the cheese and the fries just turns into a glorified sandwich.

I don't eat those as much as I did and I do have dinner at home most nights. I maybe get a hamburger such as that every three or four days.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on December 07, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
A hamburger without the cheese and the fries just turns into a glorified sandwich.

I don't eat those as much as I did and I do have dinner at home most nights. I maybe get a hamburger such as that every three or four days.

Man, a hamburger every 3 or 4 days is still too often.  Switch to a chicken sandwich, grilled, not fried if your job dictates that you have to get take out.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on December 07, 2011, 02:02:33 PM
STOP.DRINKING.SODA.

Just switch to water. The only time I was drinking soda was when I mixed it with booze, but now I just drink whiskey and water.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on December 07, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
Is BushOK back from Kenya yet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 07, 2011, 02:08:26 PM
Only six hundred hours left in 2011!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on December 07, 2011, 02:13:06 PM
Bush, I read a bit more and appears you haven't left yet, or perhaps are still in Kenya.  My only advice is that you should sit in front of the fan for 5-10 minutes after showering.  This is a 'universal male practice' in the tropics, and circumvents the problem of ringworm or jock-itch to which the dweller in humid climes is so prone (and in particular, if I may say so, a fat bastard like yourself).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 07, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
Bush, I read a bit more and appears you haven't left yet, or perhaps are still in Kenya.  My only advice is that you should sit in front of the fan for 5-10 minutes after showering.  This is a 'universal male practice' in the tropics, and circumvents the problem of ringworm or jock-itch to which the dweller in humid climes is so prone (and in particular, if I may say so, a fat bastard like yourself).

Haha, I'll make sure to do that.  FYI, I don't go to Kenya until March 16.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on December 07, 2011, 03:56:16 PM
Bush, I read a bit more and appears you haven't left yet, or perhaps are still in Kenya.  My only advice is that you should sit in front of the fan for 5-10 minutes after showering.  This is a 'universal male practice' in the tropics, and circumvents the problem of ringworm or jock-itch to which the dweller in humid climes is so prone (and in particular, if I may say so, a fat bastard like yourself).

Haha, I'll make sure to do that.  FYI, I don't go to Kenya until March 16.

Sterling fellow!  I wish you all the best. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 07, 2011, 04:35:34 PM
Bush, I read a bit more and appears you haven't left yet, or perhaps are still in Kenya.  My only advice is that you should sit in front of the fan for 5-10 minutes after showering.  This is a 'universal male practice' in the tropics, and circumvents the problem of ringworm or jock-itch to which the dweller in humid climes is so prone (and in particular, if I may say so, a fat bastard like yourself).

Haha, I'll make sure to do that.  FYI, I don't go to Kenya until March 16.

Sterling fellow!  I wish you all the best. 

Thanks, opie!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 08, 2011, 04:10:38 PM
I'm sitting at 98 days until Kenya and amongst my trip mates who have not raised as much money as I have so far are already starting to feel the trip get closer and closer.  The air fare money ($1500) is due by Saturday, January 7, 2012.  I have already raised $1800, so my air fare is taken care of and I'm well on my way for the last $1100 which includes the actual cost of the trip, the spending money, and the visa money.  All of that is due by the first week of March.  The rest of the group is already starting to feel the time crunch.  I'm not feeling it as much, since I am 3/4 of the way done in fundraising.

Personally, I'm going to take the rest of December to enjoy Christmas and New Years and then the first week of January, I am going to start looking over the list of what I need to pack and take an inventory of what I do and do not have and then start buying what I don't have.  They recommend really trying to pack as early as March 1 to give us plenty of time to figure out what works best and what doesn't.  I can keep in mind that they do have laundry service at the mission center where we will be staying, so I don't have to take as many clothes which will save room in my suitcase.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 09, 2011, 09:44:59 PM
14 weeks from right now, I will probably be on the plane doing some pond hopping headed to some airport in Europe, most likely Amsterdam, Brussels, Zurich, Istanbul, or possibly London-Heathrow.  I will likely leave the Oklahoma City airport around 11:00 or 11:30 Friday morning, March 16.  I'll likely fly into either Washington-Reagan or Dulles, Chicago, Dallas, or Newark for my American layover. The European layover will be in the cities I mentioned above.  I should return to the Oklahoma City airport around 8:30 or so Sunday night, March 25.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 12, 2011, 07:29:24 PM
Here is a weight loss update:

As of this morning, I have now lost 14 1/2 pounds.  I also have not had a regular coke in 8 days since Sunday, December 4, 2011.  I have no desire for them, anymore.  My mother advises me since I've gone this long, to just stay away from them altogether.  Instead, I've been drinking Coke Zero and occasionally Diet Dr. Pepper in establishments that don't have Coke Zero.  I do not see myself ever going to a water-only diet.  That's just too boring.  Coke Zero is fine since it has no calories and no sugar and it tastes great.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on December 12, 2011, 08:58:40 PM
Here is a weight loss update:

As of this morning, I have now lost 14 1/2 pounds.  I also have not had a regular coke in 8 days since Sunday, December 4, 2011.  I have no desire for them, anymore.  My mother advises me since I've gone this long, to just stay away from them altogether.  Instead, I've been drinking Coke Zero and occasionally Diet Dr. Pepper in establishments that don't have Coke Zero.  I do not see myself ever going to a water-only diet.  That's just too boring.  Coke Zero is fine since it has no calories and no sugar and it tastes great.
Keep it up! Clothes fitting differently yet? That's the best feeling in the world! Any progress on the energy out side of the equation? It doesn't have to be a marathon at first (and, frankly, shouldn't be anything too strenuous to start), but you need to work at both sides not just to lose weight but to be healthier.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Yelnoc on December 12, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
14 weeks from right now, I will probably be on the plane doing some pond hopping headed to some airport in Europe, most likely Amsterdam, Brussels, Zurich, Istanbul, or possibly London-Heathrow.  I will likely leave the Oklahoma City airport around 11:00 or 11:30 Friday morning, March 16.  I'll likely fly into either Washington-Reagan or Dulles, Chicago, Dallas, or Newark for my American layover. The European layover will be in the cities I mentioned above.  I should return to the Oklahoma City airport around 8:30 or so Sunday night, March 25.
So you're going to be in Kenya for a little more than a week?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on December 13, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
So, when is the next engagement?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 13, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
14 weeks from right now, I will probably be on the plane doing some pond hopping headed to some airport in Europe, most likely Amsterdam, Brussels, Zurich, Istanbul, or possibly London-Heathrow.  I will likely leave the Oklahoma City airport around 11:00 or 11:30 Friday morning, March 16.  I'll likely fly into either Washington-Reagan or Dulles, Chicago, Dallas, or Newark for my American layover. The European layover will be in the cities I mentioned above.  I should return to the Oklahoma City airport around 8:30 or so Sunday night, March 25.
So you're going to be in Kenya for a little more than a week?

Yes, 9 days total including 2 full weekends.

Here is a weight loss update:

As of this morning, I have now lost 14 1/2 pounds.  I also have not had a regular coke in 8 days since Sunday, December 4, 2011.  I have no desire for them, anymore.  My mother advises me since I've gone this long, to just stay away from them altogether.  Instead, I've been drinking Coke Zero and occasionally Diet Dr. Pepper in establishments that don't have Coke Zero.  I do not see myself ever going to a water-only diet.  That's just too boring.  Coke Zero is fine since it has no calories and no sugar and it tastes great.
Keep it up! Clothes fitting differently yet? That's the best feeling in the world! Any progress on the energy out side of the equation? It doesn't have to be a marathon at first (and, frankly, shouldn't be anything too strenuous to start), but you need to work at both sides not just to lose weight but to be healthier.

Thank you, memphis!  I'm almost ready to go down a size in my jeans from my current 40 to 38!!



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 13, 2011, 07:08:02 PM

Not anytime soon. I don't even have a girlfriend, nor do I have any prospects.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on December 13, 2011, 07:20:42 PM
14 weeks from right now, I will probably be on the plane doing some pond hopping headed to some airport in Europe, most likely Amsterdam, Brussels, Zurich, Istanbul, or possibly London-Heathrow.  I will likely leave the Oklahoma City airport around 11:00 or 11:30 Friday morning, March 16.  I'll likely fly into either Washington-Reagan or Dulles, Chicago, Dallas, or Newark for my American layover. The European layover will be in the cities I mentioned above.  I should return to the Oklahoma City airport around 8:30 or so Sunday night, March 25.
So you're going to be in Kenya for a little more than a week?

Yes, 9 days total including 2 full weekends.

Here is a weight loss update:

As of this morning, I have now lost 14 1/2 pounds.  I also have not had a regular coke in 8 days since Sunday, December 4, 2011.  I have no desire for them, anymore.  My mother advises me since I've gone this long, to just stay away from them altogether.  Instead, I've been drinking Coke Zero and occasionally Diet Dr. Pepper in establishments that don't have Coke Zero.  I do not see myself ever going to a water-only diet.  That's just too boring.  Coke Zero is fine since it has no calories and no sugar and it tastes great.
Keep it up! Clothes fitting differently yet? That's the best feeling in the world! Any progress on the energy out side of the equation? It doesn't have to be a marathon at first (and, frankly, shouldn't be anything too strenuous to start), but you need to work at both sides not just to lose weight but to be healthier.

Thank you, memphis!  I'm almost ready to go down a size in my jeans from my current 40 to 38!!

Excellent! I've done some weight yo-yoing in the past. You're going to have to try everything on before you buy it because everybody sizes things differently. Target jeans, for whatever reason, are extremely generous in the waist, even the ones that are not relaxed fit. I could probably wear a 32 Target jeans if I wanted, which is hilarious because I'm more like a 36 in the real world.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 13, 2011, 10:44:49 PM
14 weeks from right now, I will probably be on the plane doing some pond hopping headed to some airport in Europe, most likely Amsterdam, Brussels, Zurich, Istanbul, or possibly London-Heathrow.  I will likely leave the Oklahoma City airport around 11:00 or 11:30 Friday morning, March 16.  I'll likely fly into either Washington-Reagan or Dulles, Chicago, Dallas, or Newark for my American layover. The European layover will be in the cities I mentioned above.  I should return to the Oklahoma City airport around 8:30 or so Sunday night, March 25.
So you're going to be in Kenya for a little more than a week?

Yes, 9 days total including 2 full weekends.

Here is a weight loss update:

As of this morning, I have now lost 14 1/2 pounds.  I also have not had a regular coke in 8 days since Sunday, December 4, 2011.  I have no desire for them, anymore.  My mother advises me since I've gone this long, to just stay away from them altogether.  Instead, I've been drinking Coke Zero and occasionally Diet Dr. Pepper in establishments that don't have Coke Zero.  I do not see myself ever going to a water-only diet.  That's just too boring.  Coke Zero is fine since it has no calories and no sugar and it tastes great.
Keep it up! Clothes fitting differently yet? That's the best feeling in the world! Any progress on the energy out side of the equation? It doesn't have to be a marathon at first (and, frankly, shouldn't be anything too strenuous to start), but you need to work at both sides not just to lose weight but to be healthier.

Thank you, memphis!  I'm almost ready to go down a size in my jeans from my current 40 to 38!!

Excellent! I've done some weight yo-yoing in the past. You're going to have to try everything on before you buy it because everybody sizes things differently. Target jeans, for whatever reason, are extremely generous in the waist, even the ones that are not relaxed fit. I could probably wear a 32 Target jeans if I wanted, which is hilarious because I'm more like a 36 in the real world.

What's nice is that I have about 10 pair of size 38 jeans in my closet, so I won't even have to go buy any. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 14, 2011, 09:55:18 PM
I just got my passport in the mail today.  It only took two weeks!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on December 14, 2011, 10:01:55 PM
That must have been a weird day at the passport office.  "Hey guys, look at this - somebody from Oklahoma is applying for a passport!"  "What?  No way..."  "I'm serious!  It's spelled correctly and everything!  I wonder if he knows what it's even for."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 14, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
That must have been a weird day at the passport office.  "Hey guys, look at this - somebody from Oklahoma is applying for a passport!"  "What?  No way..."  "I'm serious!  It's spelled correctly and everything!  I wonder if he knows what it's even for."

Oklahoma probably has its own team and does nothing but facebook all day, so when they saw my application, they got it done in just a little while and went back to facebooking.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on December 15, 2011, 05:39:26 AM
Passports are important. Although Amsterdam let me through once on an expired German passport. (Had my American passport and German ID card with me, but wasn't aware of tbe expiration myself) I wonder if the Dutch noticed or just didn't care.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: afleitch on December 15, 2011, 09:32:27 AM
Passports are important. Although Amsterdam let me through once on an expired German passport. (Had my American passport and German ID card with me, but wasn't aware of tbe expiration myself) I wonder if the Dutch noticed or just didn't care.

They tend not to care unless you have a funny name :) It's unfortunate I look about 12 on my passport, still I get to renew it shortly.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 16, 2011, 12:02:18 PM
I am able to check my work email from home, now, and this morning when I woke up and checked the email, I found out officially that I will work 12-7 Christmas Eve afternoon, but I will have Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day, and January 2 all off work.  That 7 hours on Christmas Eve is a little more than 2/3 of a normal 10 hour work day.  So, this leaves me with 6 2/3 days of work remaining in 2011, 4 of which I will knock out in the next 4 days, Saturday-Tuesday.  After I get off work at 5:00 pm on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 I will have a nice 6-day weekend until 6:00 am on Tuesday, January 3, 2012, followed by 11 hours of work, then another 3-day weekend.

I now have 90 days until Kenya (3 months from today).

I am still hovering between 13 1/2 and 14 1/2 pounds lost in the past 5 weeks.  Today, I am at 14 1/4 pounds.  I started the diet at 285.0 lbs and this morning I am at 270.8 lbs.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Yelnoc on December 16, 2011, 12:46:03 PM
I hope you aren't starving yourself.  Exercise, exercise, exercise!  I suggest running for the longest distances you can (gradually increasing your mileage) in tandem with push-ups and planks.  Don't do crunches, you will just hurt your back (and the benefits are minimal).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 17, 2011, 07:27:40 AM
I hope you aren't starving yourself.  Exercise, exercise, exercise!  I suggest running for the longest distances you can (gradually increasing your mileage) in tandem with push-ups and planks.  Don't do crunches, you will just hurt your back (and the benefits are minimal).

I'm definitely not starving myself. I'm still eating fine, I'm just not overeating and stuffing myself miserable.  I am walking a couple times a week as my form of exercise and will probably increase that once the weather starts getting warmer in the late winter and early spring.

As of this morning, I was at 14 3/4 pounds lost.  I'm slowly, but surely heading in the right direction.  I don't want to go too fast down the hill and send my body into shock, so a nice, steady progression is ideal. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 18, 2011, 07:43:16 AM
I have fluctuated back up to about 13 3/4 - 14 pounds lost again, hovering right around 271.  I didn't do anything out of the ordinary yesterday, I think its just a natural fluctuation in my weight loss journey.  It's actually good, I think, that I have these minor gains as 1) it keeps me from getting to sure of myself and 2) it prevents me from losing weight too fast for my body to adjust.

By the middle of January, I will have my Kenya trip completely paid for, including spending money and visa money.  I'm at $2000 right now, thanks to a donation that came in last Thursday.  I am promised another $400 right after the first of the year and I have also been promised some by the middle of January.  The only other expense I should have trip related is $98 to get my yellow fever vaccination sometime in late January or early February.  If I go down to the Oklahoma County Health Department, the Tetanus shot is free and the Yellow Fever is $98.

Starting around the 2nd or 3rd week of January, I am going to start getting stuff organized that I'm going to take to Kenya and take stock of what I have and make a list of what I need to get.  This will give me roughly 2 months to get what I need so I don't have to buy everything all at once.

As of today, I am down to 88 days, not including today, until I leave.

In the Brown Household, today, Sunday, December 18, 2011, is the beginning of Christmas Week 2011.  I define Christmas Week as the final full Sunday-Saturday week before Christmas Day.  That happens to be this week naturally.  New Years Week 2012 is defined by the same rules, the final full Sunday-Saturday week before New Years Day, and it so happens New Years Week will begin on Christmas Morning at midnight and end at 23:59:59 Monday, January 2, 2012.  The first week of January, beginning on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 is back to normal.  It doesn't end until January 2 for me because the Tournament of Roses Parade and all the New Years Day Bowl Games are not held until Monday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on December 18, 2011, 12:15:07 PM
Jeff, if you ever want to get serious about losing weight, rather than just verbalizing about it (how many times have you lost 15 pounds, and then put it right back on?), use this product (https://www.nlnutrition.net/page-products-detail.php?sc=NLN1012) every morning. I put a scoop in the blender with orange juice and fruit.  I lost 10 pounds a month like clockwork - 70 pounds total. I now weigh 160 pounds, and have a body fat percentage of around 12%.  It changed my life.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 18, 2011, 01:22:02 PM
Jeff, if you ever want to get serious about losing weight, rather than just verbalizing about it (how many times have you lost 15 pounds, and then put it right back on?), use this product (https://www.nlnutrition.net/page-products-detail.php?sc=NLN1012) every morning. I put a scoop in the blender with orange juice and fruit.  I lost 10 pounds a month like clockwork - 70 pounds total. I now weigh 160 pounds, and have a body fat percentage of around 12%.  It changed my life.

I am serious about losing weight.  I've been losing for 5 full weeks now (tomorrow will start week 6).  My goal is to get in better shape so I can withstand the heat and humidity in Kenya and be of better service to the team.  I also want to not make the same mistakes in my 30s as I have in my 20s as I know mid-life can produce weight gain on its own.  I want to get ahead of the curve here and prevent things from going from bad to worse.  My blood pressure really spiked on Saturday, November 12 and I thought I had a very minor heart attack, and that's what spurred this weight loss campaign.  I would like to lose a couple pounds a week and I know I can do that.  I'm also beginning to walk some in the house and will walk more outside when the weather starts getting warmer outside.  This is not some 2-week fad that I am on, this is a real effort to lose weight.  I am at 14-15 pounds now, and my goal is to be at 17-18 pounds by January 1 and then 25 pounds by February 1.  I would like to lose 85-100 pounds total.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on December 18, 2011, 01:23:29 PM
Are you seriously defining walking inside your house as a serious way to lose weight? :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 18, 2011, 01:28:38 PM
Bushie, I successfully dealt with my former overweight issues by regularly attending a gym and continuing to do so every since.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 18, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
Are you seriously defining walking inside your house as a serious way to lose weight? :)

It takes a lot longer, for sure, and while it's not the same as walking outside, at least I'm moving around, not stationary.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 18, 2011, 01:32:06 PM
Bushie, I successfully dealt with my former overweight issues by regularly attending a gym and continuing to do so every since.

I've thought about a gym membership, but my finances right now just won't allow it.  I want to one of these days, but right now, it's just not financially feasible.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 18, 2011, 09:23:30 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on December 19, 2011, 01:24:43 AM
Take the money and sign up for eHarmony or match.com.  You'll be better off!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on December 19, 2011, 01:52:53 AM
Jeff, if you ever want to get serious about losing weight, rather than just verbalizing about it (how many times have you lost 15 pounds, and then put it right back on?), use this product (https://www.nlnutrition.net/page-products-detail.php?sc=NLN1012) every morning. I put a scoop in the blender with orange juice and fruit.  I lost 10 pounds a month like clockwork - 70 pounds total. I now weigh 160 pounds, and have a body fat percentage of around 12%.  It changed my life.
I know something better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall
Solves his weight and motivation problems with one pill. It ought to be in the water supply.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 19, 2011, 03:58:30 AM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 19, 2011, 07:00:35 PM
I also found out that my supervisor should be able to put in the requisition order to get me on permanent by the end of the first week of January. The contract with the client should be finished negotiating by the end of December, and he says it will be just a couple days after that when he submits. He said, though, it could take a little time to go through because it has to go up 100 different levels of management for approvals, but its pretty much a done deal and a matter of time at that point.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 19, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???

Have you forgotten?  Bushie doesn't do "normal" things.  He could probably be considered a little eccentric.  One thing Bushie is, is deliberate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Insula Dei on December 19, 2011, 07:15:21 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???

Have you forgotten?  Bushie doesn't do "normal" things.  He could probably be considered a little eccentric.  One thing Bushie is, is deliberate.

It's scary when you break the fourth wall, you know that?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 21, 2011, 11:17:32 AM
As of this morning, I have now lost 16.6 pounds with a weight of 268.4.  I am starting to feel better now and, I think, starting to look better.  My next goal is to drop into the 250's and I hope to do that within the next two or three weeks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 23, 2011, 12:41:15 AM
I am at my parents' for the weekend through Monday night.  I've got a pretty busy day, but fun day, on Friday.  I've got a few errands to run in town tomorrow getting last minute items for Saturday night and Christmas Dinner on Sunday.  I'm still at 16.6 pounds lost as of Thursday morning, and I'm not going to worry too much about my diet this weekend.  I'm still going to drink the Coke Zeroes and generally eat less, but when it comes to Christmas Dinner, I'm going to indulge and throw all hope aside.  Thankfully, it will be composed of primarily healthy foods with Ham, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, Green Beans, Stove Top Stuffing, Rolls, and either my mother's Pistachio Pudding or my grandmother's Lime Jello Salad and, of course, Pumpkin and Lemon Merignue Pies.

Saturday, I do have to work from 12:00-19:00, so I'm going to leave my parents' around 10:30 to run back home and check on my cat and get my dress shirt, slacks, belt, and red tie for Christmas Morning service.  After work, I'll go straight back to Mom and Dad's and should get here about 19:45 at which time we will have sandwiches for our dinner and then open presents.

Christmas Morning, we'll leave at 10:00 for our Morning Worship Service at 10:30.  That should be over by 11:45 at which time we'll all gather at Mom and Dad's to continue the preparations for Christmas Dinner.  A family friend that joined us on Thanksgiving will join us for Christmas Dinner and to play a few games afterwards such as Skip-Bo, UNO, and maybe Dominoes.  I'll have to get to bed fairly early on Sunday night as it is a work night.

Monday, I'll have to get up at 3:45 in order to be out of the house by 5:00 to drive to work.  Monday evening, I will drive to my grandmother's and take down her Christmas Tree and then come back to Mom and Dad's and spend one more night Monday night before going to work on Tuesday and then going home after work on Tuesday.

I will resume my calendar changing process on Wednesday and finish it by 1:00 am Saturday morning, New Year's Eve.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on December 23, 2011, 12:53:51 AM
I am at my parents' for the weekend through Monday night.  I've got a pretty busy day, but fun day, on Friday.  I've got a few errands to run in town tomorrow getting last minute items for Saturday night and Christmas Dinner on Sunday.  I'm still at 16.6 pounds lost as of Thursday morning, and I'm not going to worry too much about my diet this weekend.  I'm still going to drink the Coke Zeroes and generally eat less, but when it comes to Christmas Dinner, I'm going to indulge and throw all hope aside.  Thankfully, it will be composed of primarily healthy foods with Ham, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, Green Beans, Stove Top Stuffing, Rolls, and either my mother's Pistachio Pudding or my grandmother's Lime Jello Salad and, of course, Pumpkin and Lemon Merignue Pies.

Saturday, I do have to work from 12:00-19:00, so I'm going to leave my parents' around 10:30 to run back home and check on my cat and get my dress shirt, slacks, belt, and red tie for Christmas Morning service.  After work, I'll go straight back to Mom and Dad's and should get here about 19:45 at which time we will have sandwiches for our dinner and then open presents.

Christmas Morning, we'll leave at 10:00 for our Morning Worship Service at 10:30.  That should be over by 11:45 at which time we'll all gather at Mom and Dad's to continue the preparations for Christmas Dinner.  A family friend that joined us on Thanksgiving will join us for Christmas Dinner and to play a few games afterwards such as Skip-Bo, UNO, and maybe Dominoes.  I'll have to get to bed fairly early on Sunday night as it is a work night.

Monday, I'll have to get up at 3:45 in order to be out of the house by 5:00 to drive to work.  Monday evening, I will drive to my grandmother's and take down her Christmas Tree and then come back to Mom and Dad's and spend one more night Monday night before going to work on Tuesday and then going home after work on Tuesday.

I will resume my calendar changing process on Wednesday and finish it by 1:00 am Saturday morning, New Year's Eve.

5 fingers have to come in there at some point eh buddy?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 23, 2011, 01:05:09 AM
I am at my parents' for the weekend through Monday night.  I've got a pretty busy day, but fun day, on Friday.  I've got a few errands to run in town tomorrow getting last minute items for Saturday night and Christmas Dinner on Sunday.  I'm still at 16.6 pounds lost as of Thursday morning, and I'm not going to worry too much about my diet this weekend.  I'm still going to drink the Coke Zeroes and generally eat less, but when it comes to Christmas Dinner, I'm going to indulge and throw all hope aside.  Thankfully, it will be composed of primarily healthy foods with Ham, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, Green Beans, Stove Top Stuffing, Rolls, and either my mother's Pistachio Pudding or my grandmother's Lime Jello Salad and, of course, Pumpkin and Lemon Merignue Pies.

Saturday, I do have to work from 12:00-19:00, so I'm going to leave my parents' around 10:30 to run back home and check on my cat and get my dress shirt, slacks, belt, and red tie for Christmas Morning service.  After work, I'll go straight back to Mom and Dad's and should get here about 19:45 at which time we will have sandwiches for our dinner and then open presents.

Christmas Morning, we'll leave at 10:00 for our Morning Worship Service at 10:30.  That should be over by 11:45 at which time we'll all gather at Mom and Dad's to continue the preparations for Christmas Dinner.  A family friend that joined us on Thanksgiving will join us for Christmas Dinner and to play a few games afterwards such as Skip-Bo, UNO, and maybe Dominoes.  I'll have to get to bed fairly early on Sunday night as it is a work night.

Monday, I'll have to get up at 3:45 in order to be out of the house by 5:00 to drive to work.  Monday evening, I will drive to my grandmother's and take down her Christmas Tree and then come back to Mom and Dad's and spend one more night Monday night before going to work on Tuesday and then going home after work on Tuesday.

I will resume my calendar changing process on Wednesday and finish it by 1:00 am Saturday morning, New Year's Eve.

5 fingers have to come in there at some point eh buddy?

You lost me...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on December 23, 2011, 09:21:04 AM
??? Please tell me that Snowguy's gelatin and mayonnaise recipes aren't contagious.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 23, 2011, 09:53:13 AM
??? Please tell me that Snowguy's gelatin and mayonnaise recipes aren't contagious.

No, it has nothing in common except the gelatin.  She puts Lime Jello mixed with almonds mixed with just a little bit of grated cheddar cheese.  It is delicious!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Thomas D on December 23, 2011, 10:00:50 AM
I haven't check this thread out since the first few pages when it was about Bushie going to Africa. How'd we get to 16 pages?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on December 23, 2011, 10:24:03 AM
Will this become the new update thread?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on December 23, 2011, 10:42:19 AM
??? Please tell me that Snowguy's gelatin and mayonnaise recipes aren't contagious.

No, it has nothing in common except the gelatin.  She puts Lime Jello mixed with almonds mixed with just a little bit of grated cheddar cheese.  It is delicious!

Wow, that sounds repulsive. Although anything in Jello beside vodka makes me vaguely nauseous.  Is this a middle America thing?  I know Jello became popular by giving away free recipe books, but I thought that was like a 50's thing. Didnt really think anyone actually ate that stuff.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on December 23, 2011, 10:47:10 AM
Will this become the new update thread?

Will it become? It was the purpose of this thread from the beginning.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on December 23, 2011, 01:33:29 PM
??? Please tell me that Snowguy's gelatin and mayonnaise recipes aren't contagious.

No, it has nothing in common except the gelatin.  She puts Lime Jello mixed with almonds mixed with just a little bit of grated cheddar cheese.  It is delicious!

Wow, that sounds repulsive. Although anything in Jello beside vodka makes me vaguely nauseous.  Is this a middle America thing?  I know Jello became popular by giving away free recipe books, but I thought that was like a 50's thing. Didnt really think anyone actually ate that stuff.
Little pieces of fruit would be ok, but cheese??? In JELLO? Yikes!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on December 23, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
??? Please tell me that Snowguy's gelatin and mayonnaise recipes aren't contagious.

No, it has nothing in common except the gelatin.  She puts Lime Jello mixed with almonds mixed with just a little bit of grated cheddar cheese.  It is delicious!

Wow, that sounds repulsive. Although anything in Jello beside vodka makes me vaguely nauseous.  Is this a middle America thing?  I know Jello became popular by giving away free recipe books, but I thought that was like a 50's thing. Didnt really think anyone actually ate that stuff.
Little pieces of fruit would be ok, but cheese??? In JELLO? Yikes!

This.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 23, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
??? Please tell me that Snowguy's gelatin and mayonnaise recipes aren't contagious.

No, it has nothing in common except the gelatin.  She puts Lime Jello mixed with almonds mixed with just a little bit of grated cheddar cheese.  It is delicious!

Wow, that sounds repulsive. Although anything in Jello beside vodka makes me vaguely nauseous.  Is this a middle America thing?  I know Jello became popular by giving away free recipe books, but I thought that was like a 50's thing. Didnt really think anyone actually ate that stuff.
Little pieces of fruit would be ok, but cheese??? In JELLO? Yikes!

This.

One bite of it and you would change your mind in a heart beat!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 23, 2011, 03:20:11 PM
Will this become the new update thread?

Will it become? It was the purpose of this thread from the beginning.

Correct, it has already become the update thread.  BTW, I still post about Africa on this page and probably more and more as we get closer.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 23, 2011, 10:16:27 PM
Christmas Eve, Eve 2011 is over except for playing on the Internet the final 3 hours of the night.  We basically did everything we set out to do, so it was a successful and a very fun day with my family.  Tomorrow, on Christmas Eve, I will go to bed around 12:15-12:20 am and wake up at 8:00 am.  I'll eat Christmas Eve breakfast with my parents and then leave the house around 10:20 in the morning to fill up and stop by my house for a few minutes and check on my cat.  I'll leave my house at 11:20 and clock in at 12:00.  I plan on watching the NFL games progress on NFL.com while I'm at work.  I'll take off at 7:00 pm and come straight back to Mom and Dad's and then eat dinner and open presents.  The presents shouldn't take very long this year as we don't have a whole lot, maybe two presents a piece for four people.  We'll probably be through with everything by 8:30-8:45.  I'll probably spend the last 2 1/2-3 hours of Christmas Eve in front of the computer, winding down and go to bed around 12:15 Christmas Morning and get up at 8:00.  I will leave the house by 9:45 Sunday morning to get ready for the 10:30 Christmas Morning Worship Service. We'll be home by noon, most likely, and we'll fix the side dishes for the meal after we get home.  We'll already have cooked the ham before we go to church.  Sunday Night, I'll hit the sack by 9:00 or 9:30 and get up at 3:45 Monday Morning to go to work.  I'll have two days of work before I have another 3 days off.  I kind of consider New Year's Eve to be the first work day of 2012, even though the calendar will still say 2011.  I'll have New Year's Day off as well, and since I will be at church NYE night, I going to record on DVR all 6 hours of Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve 2012.  It starts at 7:00 pm CST and ends at 1:13 am CST. I will probably rewatch the entire thing New Year's Day afternoon after church.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 27, 2011, 11:06:15 PM
Good evening, friends. I had an awesome weekend with my family. I did gain 4.5 pounds due to the holiday dinner, but I've already lost at least a half pound from the holiday weight. I've been doing some walking to get rid of some of this weight. I'm not about to let another setback derail my goal.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on December 28, 2011, 09:32:25 AM
Good evening, friends. I had an awesome weekend with my family. I did gain 4.5 pounds due to the holiday dinner, but I've already lost at least a half pound from the holiday weight. I've been doing some walking to get rid of some of this weight. I'm not about to let another setback derail my goal.



Congratulations.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 28, 2011, 12:09:17 PM
Good evening, friends. I had an awesome weekend with my family. I did gain 4.5 pounds due to the holiday dinner, but I've already lost at least a half pound from the holiday weight. I've been doing some walking to get rid of some of this weight. I'm not about to let another setback derail my goal.



Congratulations.

Thanks, as of this morning, I've lost 2.5 lbs of the holiday weight. This puts me at 271.0 for a total of 14.0 lbs since November 14


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 29, 2011, 11:54:11 PM
I have $2,000 deposited in my Kenya account. I have the rest of it committed and will be deposited in January. I will be getting the tetanus shot in mid-January and the yellow fever shot in early February. I will also begin to take inventory of what I have in my possession and purchase what I don't have in mid January.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 30, 2011, 01:33:25 AM
I am trying to ask my college student self to make a cameo appearance.  I don't plan to go to bed this morning until 4:30 or 5:00. I'll get up by Noon, and then I don't plan to go to bed again until 2:00 am Sunday, January 1, 2012.  That will be 38 hours straight of being awake.  I do have to work tomorrow (Saturday) from 6-5 and then I have that game night the rest of the year after that, but I still don't plan on sleeping tonight or Saturday morning.  I want to watch the entire Insight Bowl between Oklahoma and Iowa which doesn't start until 9:00 CT, so it won't be over until 12:30 am Saturday morning. Then, I want to watch the birth of 2012 at 4:00 am CT Saturday morning, so if I did sleep it would be for only 2 or 2 1/2 hours between 1:00 and 3:30 am.  That would be risky, because if I were to lay my head on that pillow, I may not get up in time for work.  This is an annual adventure for me.

I probably won't be able to go to bed until 2:00 Sunday morning, but I have to turn right around and get up at 7:00 am for church.  I'll probably hit the sack quite early Sunday night.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 30, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
I ended up going to bed at 2:00 this morning.  I didn't weigh this morning as I was woken up in a rude fashion by a huge, excruciatingly painful, and crippling cramp in my left calf that is still making it difficult to walk. That messed up my entire morning. So, there's no weight update this morning, you'll have to wait until tomorrow.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: ilikeverin on December 30, 2011, 01:21:03 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???

Here's why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_personality_disorder).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 30, 2011, 01:42:20 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???

Here's why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_personality_disorder).

Darn right, and I'm embracing it. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: ilikeverin on December 30, 2011, 01:55:21 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???

Here's why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_personality_disorder).

Darn right, and I'm embracing it. :)

*hughughug* ;D

Congrats on your weight loss!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 30, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
If you remember a year ago in the Update Thread I mentioned I have an actual process when it comes to changing my calendars for the New Year.  I am at it, again!  I have a schedule typed up on Microsoft Word that tells me when to take down a certain calendar, when to put up the new calendar, when to change pages to January.  As for my desk calendars, I have a schedule of when to turn each individual page.  It will not all get changed at one time, but I have a method to each page turn about 45 minutes apart.  I will have started the changing process, but I will take a break for Christmas from this Thursday evening through next Wednesday morning.  I will have all the calendars changed by 1:00 am Saturday, December 31, 2011 which is 3 hours before 2012 is born in the Pacific Ocean.

I have a couple words of advice for anyone trying to figure this out...  "Don't ask!".

Why???

Here's why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_personality_disorder).

Darn right, and I'm embracing it. :)

*hughughug* ;D

Congrats on your weight loss!

Thank you!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 30, 2011, 09:35:36 PM
I'm enjoying the day of College Football Bowl Games.  It is 8:30 pm Oklahoma Time and I've got another 29 1/2 hours before I go to bed the next time.  I'm watching the time tick down, not just the hours, but the minutes, and the seconds until the ball rises in Oklahoma City as well as the first time zone in the world in Samoa which will enter 2012 at 4:00 am Oklahoma time, 5:00 am New York time.

When I get to work tomorrow, I will keep a countdown on my second monitor that I will watch until time to go home.

Right after work tomorrow at 5:00 pm, I will head to the church and get things set up for the 2012 New Year's Eve Game Night which begins at 7:00 pm.  I will be delivering a short 15-minute devotion from 7:30-7:45 pm in the New Testament book of 3 John on the subject of Hospitality.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 30, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
BushOK's Facebook profile picture is a map of Africa with the countries outlined. You can't make this stuff up.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 31, 2011, 12:45:19 AM
BushOK's Facebook profile picture is a map of Africa with the countries outlined. You can't make this stuff up.

Well, it was time to change it from the Christmas Tree Star that was on there previously.  Since Christmas 2011 is over, and we are still 360 days from Christmas 2012, I thought I would change it to something more relevant, and that would be Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 31, 2011, 12:57:23 AM
BushOK's Facebook profile picture is a map of Africa with the countries outlined. You can't make this stuff up.

Well, it was time to change it from the Christmas Tree Star that was on there previously.  Since Christmas 2011 is over, and we are still 360 days from Christmas 2012, I thought I would change it to something more relevant, and that would be Kenya.

You also can't make up the fact that BushOK, who is super religious and super obsessed with Christmas, incorrectly states when the Christmas season is over yet starts preparing for the feast in...September.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on December 31, 2011, 01:21:14 AM
LOL <3 you Bushie.

He watches AND rewatches Dick Clark's New Years Eve!  I couldn't sit through it once. Hilarious.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 31, 2011, 01:27:45 AM
LOL <3 you Bushie.

He watches AND rewatches Dick Clark's New Years Eve!  I couldn't sit through it once. Hilarious.

Not just that, but I'll watch AND rewatch all 6 hours of it Sunday evening!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 01, 2012, 08:58:53 AM
Happy New Year 2012!! As of this morning, I have now lost 17 pounds since Monday, November 14, 2011 when this all began. I am now weighing in at 268.0 after starting off at 285.0.  I'm still doing everything I've been doing the past 7 weeks, but now I'm incorporating more water, as well.  I drank quite a bit of water the last two days of 2011.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 01, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
This week at work, I should learn that the requisition order will have been submitted on my permanent position at Dell.  It still will probably be the end of January or February before I actually get hired on permanent, but the process should be started this week, hopefully, or no later than early next week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 01, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
As you can see by my avatar and name change, I am solidifying my support behind Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney for the Republican Nomination and the General Election, should he win the nomination.  If Ron Paul were to miraculously win the nomination, my vote would be solidly in Obama's camp.  If it's anyone else, I'm undecided at this point.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 01, 2012, 09:06:07 PM
LOL


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 01, 2012, 09:20:26 PM
For real? Awesome.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 01, 2012, 09:31:48 PM

That's the way I see it right now.  Things could change especially after Nevada and see how things play out in all the broad regions of the country.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on January 01, 2012, 10:42:49 PM
You describe yourself in your Forum profile as "Republican Socially, Democrat Economically". Why then are you supporting a Republican running mostly on fiscal issues in an election where the dominate issue is the economy?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 01, 2012, 10:44:34 PM
You describe yourself in your Forum profile as "Republican Socially, Democrat Economically". Why then are you supporting a Republican running mostly on fiscal issues in an election where the dominate issue is the economy?

There are other issues at play for me in this election.  I will expound on those later, as I'm about to go to bed.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 01, 2012, 10:49:53 PM
As you can see by my avatar and name change, I am solidifying my support behind Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney for the Republican Nomination and the General Election, should he win the nomination.  If Ron Paul were to miraculously win the nomination, my vote would be solidly in Obama's camp.  If it's anyone else, I'm undecided at this point.
Good for you. :) Welcome aboard! Get all signed up, and your membership card should be arriving on your doorstep soon. (I got mine yesterday)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 02, 2012, 05:15:11 AM
Is there ever an election when you don't claim to support the Republican for a while...only to switch back later on?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 02, 2012, 05:59:50 AM
Is there ever an election when you don't claim to support the Republican for a while...only to switch back later on?

That's probably because I have tendencies in both parties.  I'm a moderate by the country's standards, and a liberal by Oklahoma standards.  I also tend to vote for the person, not the party and my support does sway back and forth, but I've been doing some homework on Romney and, I think, he's the best bet in the Republican field. Most likely, if you were to ask me right now who I would support should someone other than Mitt Romney win the nomination, I would probably say President Obama.  I know I definitely would not support Ron Paul under any circumstances.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 05, 2012, 07:21:42 PM
Good Thursday Evening.  I am 70 days from leaving for Kenya.  I also am sitting at 16 pounds lost, at a weight of 269.0 as of this morning.

I called my liaison, the recruiter who got me the job at Dell, this afternoon.  She confirmed what I've been hearing and what I've been expecting.  She said the way it typically works in a 9-month contract to hire with Dell is that sometime late in the 7th month or early in the 8th month, the Dell management will come to me and give me a start date to officially transition over to Dell badge and Dell payroll.  The start date is normally sometime in the 9th month.  The 8th month of my contract will begin next Friday, January 13, 2012, which means the 9th month will begin on Monday, February 13, 2012.  She says I should be hearing very soon about the next steps and be given the paperwork to fill out to move over to Dell badge and payroll.  She says that the only way she will know is from me as I am to call her when I find out a start date.  Neither she nor the temp coordinator at Dell have any jurisdiction over the decision whether good or bad, it is solely up to my supervisor.  My stats have continued to improve and are at the best they've been in my 7 months there.  It's pretty much a matter of when, and not if, at this point.  My supervisor is waiting for the word from the client that I'm working with (a medical complex in Minneapolis) about the contract extensions and he should receive that word either tomorrow or sometime next week.  He has the requisition order ready to submit for my position whenever he does hear.  My liaison says I should be given a start date sometime before the end of January, although that start date may be sometime in March.  Plus, I have another account I will be getting trained on in the near future, so things are definitely looking up and starting to take shape.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 05, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
As you can see by my avatar and name change, I am solidifying my support behind Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney for the Republican Nomination and the General Election, should he win the nomination.  If Ron Paul were to miraculously win the nomination, my vote would be solidly in Obama's camp.  If it's anyone else, I'm undecided at this point.

Excellent!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on January 05, 2012, 08:03:40 PM
lulz

Only Bushie can use "vote for the person" reasoning and come up with Mitt Romney as the best choice.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 05, 2012, 08:13:08 PM
lulz

Only Bushie can use "vote for the person" reasoning and come up with Mitt Romney as the best choice.

I could see an argument for voting for a "competent" person. Not meant as voting for personality but rather for the individual judging his capability.

That said, I think it's silly to vote for the person most of the time (except internally within a party of course).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 06, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
I cheated a little on my diet last night.  I had some ice cream from Sonic.  As a result, I gained 3/4 of a pound this morning back to 269.8.  I'll get back on track today, though.

I am 69 days from Kenya and I should be getting the plane tickets within the next two weeks.  The deadline to have the air fare money in is tomorrow, January 7, 2012 and we are having another meeting this Sunday, January 8 at 5:30 pm to go over a few things, answer more questions, and officially give the go ahead for our travel agent to purchase the tickets.  I imagine the tickets will be bought either this coming week or early the following week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: k-onmmunist on January 06, 2012, 12:43:49 PM
Why does this thread title sound like a double entendre?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Insula Dei on January 06, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
It's a testament to the Update's great and enduring popularity that even this weak spin-off has managed to page 19.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 06, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
It's a testament to the Update's great and enduring popularity that even this weak spin-off has managed to page 19.

And, this time, I'm trying my best to keep personal information out of it which is what got the Update thread shut down.  I spilled too much PI.  I do appreciate the moderators for allowing me to have this update spinoff and I do continue to promise I will not spill any personal information.  So, Alcon, Inks, and Mikado, thank you for allowing this update thread to continue for nearly 20 pages so far.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 07, 2012, 08:11:11 AM
Update on my MBA application:

I just registered for the GMAT exam as part of my MBA application to the University of Central Oklahoma.  The date and time of the exam are Saturday, May 19, 2012 at 8:00 am in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  I'll probably go up the evening before and get a motel room so I can get a better night's sleep rather than having to get up before 4:00 am to drive two hours so I can get a good breakfast and be at the test center by 7:30 am.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 08, 2012, 07:33:36 AM
After stepping on the scale this morning, I am pleased to report that I have now lost 17 1/2 pounds at a weight of 267.6, my best showing, yet! I felt pretty good yesterday, even though I thought I had pigged out and blown it, by having an entire large pizza from Little Caesars last night.  Even with the pizza, I still lost 2.4 pounds from yesterday morning.  I'm just imagining what it could have been had I not had that pizza.  I will probably eat a lot lighter today since I won't be home until 8:00 at the earliest and by then it will be too late for a big meal.  In fact, after I eat lunch this morning at 10:45, I may not eat again until tomorrow morning at my 9:30 lunch break.

I am growing confident in my weight loss adventure, now realizing that I can lose weight, especially after keeping this going for 8 full weeks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 09, 2012, 08:35:05 PM
I went to my Kenya meeting last night with 9 1/2 weeks until departure.  We had several wonderful developments.  First thing, we have several new travelers going with us, a lot more than we had when we last met on December 4.  Second, our coordinator said that our travel agent can get us an easier flight for $100 cheaper if we arrive in Oklahoma City on Monday, March 26 instead of Sunday, March 25. That's fine with me as I had already scheduled Monday off as a jet lag day.  I will just go back to work on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 regardless of jet lag.  They are going to purchase the airline tickets sometime the middle of this week and email us the itineraries by the end of the week.  Our church coordinator is telling us that he will be sending out quite a few emails this week.

We have 66 days until departure. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on January 09, 2012, 09:35:28 PM
After stepping on the scale this morning, I am pleased to report that I have now lost 17 1/2 pounds at a weight of 267.6, my best showing, yet! I felt pretty good yesterday, even though I thought I had pigged out and blown it, by having an entire large pizza from Little Caesars last night.  Even with the pizza, I still lost 2.4 pounds from yesterday morning.  I'm just imagining what it could have been had I not had that pizza.  I will probably eat a lot lighter today since I won't be home until 8:00 at the earliest and by then it will be too late for a big meal.  In fact, after I eat lunch this morning at 10:45, I may not eat again until tomorrow morning at my 9:30 lunch break.

I am growing confident in my weight loss adventure, now realizing that I can lose weight, especially after keeping this going for 8 full weeks.

The fact that you're getting the weight off is great... but STOP WEIGHING YOURSELF EVERY DAY!!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on January 09, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
I expected this guy to change parties.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 10, 2012, 07:51:15 AM
I expected this guy to change parties.

Considering his history, it wasn't a terribly brave expectation to have. I'm not sure how often he's switched to Republican - and subsequently switched back. At least twice before now, though.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 10, 2012, 07:38:03 PM
I now have my Kenya Flight Itinerary

For your enjoyment:

Delta - 11:37 am 03/16/2012 - 01:40 pm 03/16/2012 - Oklahoma City to Minneapolis
Delta - 04:20 pm 03/16/2012 - 06:35 am 03/17/2012 - Minneapolis to Amsterdam
Kenya - 10:35am 03/17/2012 - 08:40 pm 03/17/2012 - Amsterdam to Nairobi

Kenya - 11:45 pm 03/24/2012 - 06:45 am 03/25/2012 - Nairobi to London
Delta - 09:05 am 03/25/2012 - 12:45 pm 03/25/2012 - London to Detroit
Delta - 03:22 pm 03/25/2012 - 05:07 pm 03/25/2012 - Detroit to Oklahoma City


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 10, 2012, 08:10:24 PM
You can say hello to BRTD.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 10, 2012, 08:37:27 PM

Haha, LOL!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 10, 2012, 08:42:42 PM
Still ridin' the Mitt corporate jet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 10, 2012, 09:33:35 PM

Haha, no I've got a 'ticket to ride', but it's not from Huntsman!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 10, 2012, 11:04:44 PM
Tomorrow, my major plan is to get my tetanus booster for my trip, one of two required shots before entering the country.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 11, 2012, 01:40:37 AM
4 hours in Amsterdam, hm? Well the Amsterdam airport is conveniently located above a train line IIRC, so there should be plenty of time to get into town and visit a coffee shop.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 11, 2012, 05:42:06 AM
I now have my Kenya Flight Itinerary

For your enjoyment:

Delta - 11:37 am 03/16/2012 - 01:40 pm 03/16/2012 - Oklahoma City to Minneapolis
Delta - 04:20 pm 03/16/2012 - 06:35 am 03/17/2012 - Minneapolis to Amsterdam
Kenya - 10:35am 03/17/2012 - 08:40 pm 03/17/2012 - Amsterdam to Nairobi

Kenya - 11:45 pm 03/24/2012 - 06:45 am 03/25/2012 - Nairobi to London
Delta - 09:05 am 03/25/2012 - 12:45 pm 03/25/2012 - London to Detroit
Delta - 03:22 pm 03/25/2012 - 05:07 pm 03/25/2012 - Detroit to Oklahoma City

That's not too bad. Amsterdam is quite a user-friendly airport and should be relatively convenient for someone to connect in that hasn't flown internationally before.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on January 11, 2012, 11:27:54 AM
4 hours in Amsterdam, hm? Well the Amsterdam airport is conveniently located above a train line IIRC, so there should be plenty of time to get into town and visit a coffee shop.
So sorry to Bushie:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/05/amsterdam-ban-pot-sales-tourists/38248/


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 11, 2012, 02:12:17 PM
I just got the tetanus shot about 11:45 this morning.  I'm now waiting on the pain to arrive.  I will probably take some Aleve to ward off any moderate side effects.  Apparently, according to my shot card, they gave me the Tdap vaccine which is once-in-a-lifetime shot instead of the 10-year booster.  They both cover the same thing, though.  I've got an appointment to get my yellow fever shot on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 11, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
I don't think Bushie gets that he's not staying in the fycking Nairobi Hilton with room service.  I also am still curious if he got it in writing he's allowed away from his job that long....


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 11, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
I don't think Bushie gets that he's not staying in the fycking Nairobi Hilton with room service.  I also am still curious if he got it in writing he's allowed away from his job that long....

I'm staying in the Maisha International Guest House with according to what I've heard from people who have been there is a very nice motel-style accomodations.  No. it's not the Hilton, but he described it as the "Embassy Suites" compared to most mission trips.

I did get in writing, via an email from my supervisor yesterday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 11, 2012, 04:47:02 PM
I have a question that our international travelers may know.  How early should I get to the Oklahoma City airport for an international flight.  Is it 2 hours or is it 3 hours?  I know it's 90 minutes for domestic flights, and I assume it's longer for international trips.  My first flight departs for Minneapolis at 11:37 am.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 11, 2012, 06:11:36 PM
The fact that your final destination is outside the U.s. isn't really relevant, you're still leaving on a domestic flight the same way anyone else stopping in Minneapolis is.

60 minutes is what I'd do, although 90 would give you time for a drink (or a sweet tea or whatever :)) before departure.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 11, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
The fact that your final destination is outside the U.s. isn't really relevant, you're still leaving on a domestic flight the same way anyone else stopping in Minneapolis is.

60 minutes is what I'd do, although 90 would give you time for a drink (or a sweet tea or whatever :)) before departure.

I talked to our trip organizer and he said they usually meet at the airport 2 - 2 1/2 hours before departure, probably because of the large group they have to manuever through check-in, security, and boarding.  If it were just me, I would probably get there about 1:45-2:00 before, but with the first flight at 11:37, I will probably get to the airport by 9:00.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on January 11, 2012, 08:57:01 PM
The fact that your final destination is outside the U.s. isn't really relevant, you're still leaving on a domestic flight the same way anyone else stopping in Minneapolis is.

I used to think that too, until I flew long-haul international for the first time and had the check-in attendant yell at me for showing up late for the domestic leg of the flight.  Apparently it does make a difference, and you still have to show up 2 hours before.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 11, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
The fact that your final destination is outside the U.s. isn't really relevant, you're still leaving on a domestic flight the same way anyone else stopping in Minneapolis is.

I used to think that too, until I flew long-haul international for the first time and had the check-in attendant yell at me for showing up late for the domestic leg of the flight.  Apparently it does make a difference, and you still have to show up 2 hours before.

Thats what I thought. I know it used to be 3 hours before departure.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 11, 2012, 11:56:06 PM
The fact that your final destination is outside the U.s. isn't really relevant, you're still leaving on a domestic flight the same way anyone else stopping in Minneapolis is.

I used to think that too, until I flew long-haul international for the first time and had the check-in attendant yell at me for showing up late for the domestic leg of the flight.  Apparently it does make a difference, and you still have to show up 2 hours before.

I've checked in even 40 minutes before once. An hour before is totally normal between St. Louis and Europe (Always first having a domestic flight), but then again, maybe in Bushie's case, being his first time, and the fact that he won't listen to anyone with a reasonable time ;), he should get there earlier.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 12, 2012, 01:01:32 AM
The fact that your final destination is outside the U.s. isn't really relevant, you're still leaving on a domestic flight the same way anyone else stopping in Minneapolis is.

I used to think that too, until I flew long-haul international for the first time and had the check-in attendant yell at me for showing up late for the domestic leg of the flight.  Apparently it does make a difference, and you still have to show up 2 hours before.

I've checked in even 40 minutes before once. An hour before is totally normal between St. Louis and Europe (Always first having a domestic flight), but then again, maybe in Bushie's case, being his first time, and the fact that he won't listen to anyone with a reasonable time ;), he should get there earlier.

I like to get to the airport and have plenty of time to check-in, get through security, relax, and maybe get a bite to eat before I board.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 12, 2012, 02:09:57 AM
Now that you mention it: I'm just now sitting at a departure gate in Frankfurt, ready to board for Newark. Got to the airport about 2 hours early (not intentional, just worked out that way), and it's totally empty here. This could be a pleasent flight...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 12, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
I am now 63 days from Kenya, not including today. 9 weeks from tomorrow, I will be leaving for the East African Nation.  I am sitting just under 269.0 on my weight this morning.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 12, 2012, 12:18:23 PM
I talked to our main trip organizer this morning at 10:30, and she said they are purchasing the plane tickets today.  She said the times could change slightly from what we were given Tuesday evening, but the dates would remain the same.  I will post the new itinerary if the times do change.  I should receive the finalized itinerary by the end of the night tonight.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 12, 2012, 01:59:46 PM
$9.25 for a big beer at Newark airport?? Now that's a good reason not to be waiting at the airport too long... Unfortunate that my flight to STL is 90 min. late.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on January 12, 2012, 02:00:55 PM
How are you getting time off work for this again?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 12, 2012, 02:10:21 PM
How are you getting time off work for this again?

He's still doing the Dell work as a temp.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 12, 2012, 02:20:17 PM
How are you getting time off work for this again?

He's still doing the Dell work as a temp.


We are still waiting to see if he gets hired full time. I bet you it's going to be a season ending cliff hanger.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on January 12, 2012, 04:05:54 PM
How will he get hired full time if he's taking an extended break to dance with the natives in the jungles of Kenya?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 12, 2012, 05:29:05 PM
Will Bushie give us updates while in Kenya?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 12, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
How are you getting time off work for this again?

He's still doing the Dell work as a temp.


We are still waiting to see if he gets hired full time. I bet you it's going to be a season ending cliff hanger.

They have been dropping hints along the way the past two or three weeks.  They are waiting for the customer my team services to extend the contract for 3 more years. They are going to meet, and presumably finalize the deal tomorrow, so I should have an answer by next week and have been told I should have a start date by the end of the month effective sometime in March.  My supervisor said he will work around my Kenya trip.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 12, 2012, 11:51:38 PM
Okay, folks, the plane tickets have officially been purchased for Kenya and the itinerary has changed slightly.

Here are the final details for your viewing:

Continental - Oklahoma City to Chicago - 2:56 pm 03/16/2012 to 4:55 pm 3/16/2012 (1:59)
Continental - Chicago to Amsterdam - 6:02 pm 03/16/2012 to 8:20 am 3/17/2012 (8:18)
Kenya Air - Amsterdam to Nairobi - 10:35 am 03/17/2012 to 8:40 pm 3/17/2012 (8:05)

Return:

Brussels Air - Nairobi to Brussels - 11:35 pm 3/25/2012 to 7:15 am 3/26/2012 (8:40)
Continental - Brussels to Chicago - 11:00 am 3/26/2012 to 1:16 pm 3/26/2012 (9:16)
Continental - Chicago to Oklahoma City - 5:11 pm 3/26/2012 to 7:16 pm 3/26/2012 (2:05)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 13, 2012, 10:53:28 AM
You'll be grateful for Brussels in place of London, at least.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 13, 2012, 11:15:27 AM
Another question for the European airports.  Both Netherlands and Belgium are Dutch speaking countries.  What language will they speak at the airport to announce the start of the boarding process and any flight updates?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 13, 2012, 11:24:29 AM
Another question for the European airports.  Both Netherlands and Belgium are Dutch speaking countries.  What language will they speak at the airport to announce the start of the boarding process and any flight updates?

English


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Insula Dei on January 13, 2012, 11:30:17 AM
Another question for the European airports.  Both Netherlands and Belgium are Dutch speaking countries.  What language will they speak at the airport to announce the start of the boarding process and any flight updates?

English


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Don't worry about that.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 13, 2012, 11:46:16 AM
Another question for the European airports.  Both Netherlands and Belgium are Dutch speaking countries.  What language will they speak at the airport to announce the start of the boarding process and any flight updates?

English

I thought they would, but I wasn't sure since they are in Dutch-speaking countries.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 13, 2012, 02:30:41 PM
Any chance we can get a film crew for this?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 13, 2012, 04:01:02 PM
Any chance we can get a film crew for this?

I'll have my digital camera. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on January 13, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
Any chance we can get a film crew for this?

It would be one of those documentaries where people wouldn't be sure if it was a mockumentary.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 13, 2012, 04:25:16 PM
Any chance we can get a film crew for this?

It would be one of those documentaries where people wouldn't be sure if it was a mockumentary.

Bushie is Michael Moore-esque


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 14, 2012, 09:16:33 AM
About mid-week last week, I received word that I could be on permanent as early as Monday, January 23.  My permanent position is guaranteed, but I am able to apply for 2 other positions, one of which should start January 23.  The employee who is leaving this spot vacant is leaving on January 20.  So, I have an opportunity at 4 different positions, with only 2 applications.  I have my permanent position that would come by late February or March, then an application for slightly different work than what I'm doing now, and another application for 2 open positions at a little higher pay grade.  Things are really going to be changing quite a bit in the next few weeks which will set us up for a very busy period that will start probably March or April 2012 and continue easily into the late Spring or Summer of 2013.  My work schedule will also be changing sometime this next week probably taking effect the beginning of the next Dell work week which is Saturday, January 21.  The schedule will, in all likelihood, go back to a normal Monday-Friday work week, but the hours could very possibly change to 5:00 am - 2:00 pm.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 14, 2012, 02:17:38 PM
The assistant of my main trip organizer, who purchased the tickets for us, emailed the team today and said the e-tickets are ready to view and print.  However, for some reason the computer had a glitch and spelled by name wrong on the e-ticket.  Her travel agent is working to correct that, but it will probably be this week before it is corrected to where I can print mine out.   I can view mine now, (or when I get home this evening), and I can print out the official travel itinerary, but I will have to wait until she emails me back to print the e-ticket out.

As an aside, my grandmother has offered to keep my cat while I'm gone.  So, he will be well taken care of.  I'll drop him off the Wednesday before I go and pick him up the Tuesday or Wednesday evening after I get back.  He'll be with her for about two weeks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on January 14, 2012, 06:19:46 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on January 14, 2012, 06:22:02 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Once the Afrukians get a look at Bushie, they'll be helpless to resist Jesus.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 14, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 15, 2012, 09:10:41 AM
She emailed me back yesterday afternoon saying that everything had been corrected.  I was able to view and print the itinerary and e-tickets last night.

In my weight loss expedition, I am back to 16 pounds lost, which is where I've been hovering the last few days.  I'm still doing everything I've been doing, it's just starting to go down slower now, which is alright, because every 5-10 days or so I see a new low, so it's not too bad.  Right now, I am at 269 lbs.  My goal is to be at least into the 250's by the time I go to Kenya.  I am feeling much better because of losing weight.  Whenever I do drink a regular Dr. Pepper or regular Coke, it tastes fattening to me and I'm starting to dislike the taste.  I enjoy my Coke Zero, and the past couple of days, I've been adding more water to the mix.   Yesterday, I had a full 8 glasses of water and a 44 oz of Diet Dr. Pepper at lunch plus a can of Coke Zero at dinner.  This morning, I've been at work a little over two hours and I've already had nearly 4 this morning, just trying to stay awake.  I'll probably have a Coke Zero at lunch and then again tonight at dinner, but I don't plan on having any regular soda and I'll finish the work day out with water except for lunch.

I've also found something very interesting.  I've had pizza at least once a week for probably the past month, and you would think with all the cheese and stuff on there that I would be gaining weight like mad, but I've found on every single occasion where I've had 5 or more slices of pizza, I have actually LOST weight the next morning.  This has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions.  I know if I keep doing that I'll be pressing my luck, but it is encouraging.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on January 15, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
She emailed me back yesterday afternoon saying that everything had been corrected.  I was able to view and print the itinerary and e-tickets last night.

In my weight loss expedition, I am back to 16 pounds lost, which is where I've been hovering the last few days.  I'm still doing everything I've been doing, it's just starting to go down slower now, which is alright, because every 5-10 days or so I see a new low, so it's not too bad.  Right now, I am at 269 lbs.  My goal is to be at least into the 250's by the time I go to Kenya.  I am feeling much better because of losing weight.  Whenever I do drink a regular Dr. Pepper or regular Coke, it tastes fattening to me and I'm starting to dislike the taste.  I enjoy my Coke Zero, and the past couple of days, I've been adding more water to the mix.   Yesterday, I had a full 8 glasses of water and a 44 oz of Diet Dr. Pepper at lunch plus a can of Coke Zero at dinner.  This morning, I've been at work a little over two hours and I've already had nearly 4 this morning, just trying to stay awake.  I'll probably have a Coke Zero at lunch and then again tonight at dinner, but I don't plan on having any regular soda and I'll finish the work day out with water except for lunch.

I've also found something very interesting.  I've had pizza at least once a week for probably the past month, and you would think with all the cheese and stuff on there that I would be gaining weight like mad, but I've found on every single occasion where I've had 5 or more slices of pizza, I have actually LOST weight the next morning.  This has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions.  I know if I keep doing that I'll be pressing my luck, but it is encouraging.

You've had 5 or more slices of pizza on 5 or 6 occassions? Yikes! You're going to make a cardiologist very rich some day. Also, why would you need to print an e-ticket? Isn't the whole point that it's electronic?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 15, 2012, 09:40:49 AM
She emailed me back yesterday afternoon saying that everything had been corrected.  I was able to view and print the itinerary and e-tickets last night.

In my weight loss expedition, I am back to 16 pounds lost, which is where I've been hovering the last few days.  I'm still doing everything I've been doing, it's just starting to go down slower now, which is alright, because every 5-10 days or so I see a new low, so it's not too bad.  Right now, I am at 269 lbs.  My goal is to be at least into the 250's by the time I go to Kenya.  I am feeling much better because of losing weight.  Whenever I do drink a regular Dr. Pepper or regular Coke, it tastes fattening to me and I'm starting to dislike the taste.  I enjoy my Coke Zero, and the past couple of days, I've been adding more water to the mix.   Yesterday, I had a full 8 glasses of water and a 44 oz of Diet Dr. Pepper at lunch plus a can of Coke Zero at dinner.  This morning, I've been at work a little over two hours and I've already had nearly 4 this morning, just trying to stay awake.  I'll probably have a Coke Zero at lunch and then again tonight at dinner, but I don't plan on having any regular soda and I'll finish the work day out with water except for lunch.

I've also found something very interesting.  I've had pizza at least once a week for probably the past month, and you would think with all the cheese and stuff on there that I would be gaining weight like mad, but I've found on every single occasion where I've had 5 or more slices of pizza, I have actually LOST weight the next morning.  This has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions.  I know if I keep doing that I'll be pressing my luck, but it is encouraging.

You've had 5 or more slices of pizza on 5 or 6 occassions? Yikes! You're going to make a cardiologist very rich some day. Also, why would you need to print an e-ticket? Isn't the whole point that it's electronic?

I've been falling into the trap of convenience with the pizza.

I had to print the e-ticket just for my records, mainly.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on January 15, 2012, 10:08:23 AM
She emailed me back yesterday afternoon saying that everything had been corrected.  I was able to view and print the itinerary and e-tickets last night.

In my weight loss expedition, I am back to 16 pounds lost, which is where I've been hovering the last few days.  I'm still doing everything I've been doing, it's just starting to go down slower now, which is alright, because every 5-10 days or so I see a new low, so it's not too bad.  Right now, I am at 269 lbs.  My goal is to be at least into the 250's by the time I go to Kenya.  I am feeling much better because of losing weight.  Whenever I do drink a regular Dr. Pepper or regular Coke, it tastes fattening to me and I'm starting to dislike the taste.  I enjoy my Coke Zero, and the past couple of days, I've been adding more water to the mix.   Yesterday, I had a full 8 glasses of water and a 44 oz of Diet Dr. Pepper at lunch plus a can of Coke Zero at dinner.  This morning, I've been at work a little over two hours and I've already had nearly 4 this morning, just trying to stay awake.  I'll probably have a Coke Zero at lunch and then again tonight at dinner, but I don't plan on having any regular soda and I'll finish the work day out with water except for lunch.

I've also found something very interesting.  I've had pizza at least once a week for probably the past month, and you would think with all the cheese and stuff on there that I would be gaining weight like mad, but I've found on every single occasion where I've had 5 or more slices of pizza, I have actually LOST weight the next morning.  This has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions.  I know if I keep doing that I'll be pressing my luck, but it is encouraging.

You've had 5 or more slices of pizza on 5 or 6 occassions? Yikes! You're going to make a cardiologist very rich some day. Also, why would you need to print an e-ticket? Isn't the whole point that it's electronic?

I've been falling into the trap of convenience with the pizza.

I had to print the e-ticket just for my records, mainly.
For your records? Isn't it avaialble on your computer? Why do your records require a piece of paper.
As for the pizza.... I don't even know what to say other than you're not serious about weight loss if you eat that much pizza that frequently.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 15, 2012, 10:23:07 AM
She emailed me back yesterday afternoon saying that everything had been corrected.  I was able to view and print the itinerary and e-tickets last night.

In my weight loss expedition, I am back to 16 pounds lost, which is where I've been hovering the last few days.  I'm still doing everything I've been doing, it's just starting to go down slower now, which is alright, because every 5-10 days or so I see a new low, so it's not too bad.  Right now, I am at 269 lbs.  My goal is to be at least into the 250's by the time I go to Kenya.  I am feeling much better because of losing weight.  Whenever I do drink a regular Dr. Pepper or regular Coke, it tastes fattening to me and I'm starting to dislike the taste.  I enjoy my Coke Zero, and the past couple of days, I've been adding more water to the mix.   Yesterday, I had a full 8 glasses of water and a 44 oz of Diet Dr. Pepper at lunch plus a can of Coke Zero at dinner.  This morning, I've been at work a little over two hours and I've already had nearly 4 this morning, just trying to stay awake.  I'll probably have a Coke Zero at lunch and then again tonight at dinner, but I don't plan on having any regular soda and I'll finish the work day out with water except for lunch.

I've also found something very interesting.  I've had pizza at least once a week for probably the past month, and you would think with all the cheese and stuff on there that I would be gaining weight like mad, but I've found on every single occasion where I've had 5 or more slices of pizza, I have actually LOST weight the next morning.  This has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions.  I know if I keep doing that I'll be pressing my luck, but it is encouraging.

You've had 5 or more slices of pizza on 5 or 6 occassions? Yikes! You're going to make a cardiologist very rich some day. Also, why would you need to print an e-ticket? Isn't the whole point that it's electronic?

I've been falling into the trap of convenience with the pizza.

I had to print the e-ticket just for my records, mainly.
For your records? Isn't it avaialble on your computer? Why do your records require a piece of paper.
As for the pizza.... I don't even know what to say other than you're not serious about weight loss if you eat that much pizza that frequently.

I like to leave a paper trail, just in case my computer were to crash.  I know I could back it up, and I do on occasion, but I always like a paper trail, as well.

I will admit that I have fallen off the wagon a bit in the past couple weeks in terms of my weight loss, but thankfully, I haven't gained anything.

Today, I'm already up to 5-6 glasses of water.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on January 15, 2012, 07:44:30 PM
Why would you need to back it up? Are you afraid the airline's servers are going to crash and they are going to lose all record of you? You can check your itinerary at any time by simply logging in. What you want to print is your boarding pass, which you can only do in the final 24 hours. Get the OCD treated. You'll be a happier person. And in a world where I make the rules, you'd be given adderall for the obesity, but I can't make that happen.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 15, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
Why would you need to back it up? Are you afraid the airline's servers are going to crash and they are going to lose all record of you? You can check your itinerary at any time by simply logging in. What you want to print is your boarding pass, which you can only do in the final 24 hours. Get the OCD treated. You'll be a happier person. And in a world where I make the rules, you'd be given adderall for the obesity, but I can't make that happen.

Sometimes, my OCD gets in my way, but other times I just roll with it and let it happen naturally.  This is one of those times.

I ended up with 9 glasses of water today, and only a very light lunch and light dinner.  I gave my dinner back, though, thanks to a migraine headache, or as one of my college friends called it, uploading. He is a Canadian Muslim with kind of a twisted mind...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TeePee4Prez on January 15, 2012, 11:45:18 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Get a refund!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 16, 2012, 06:58:18 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Get a refund!

Not gonna happen!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 17, 2012, 08:09:22 AM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Cereal?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 17, 2012, 08:04:52 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Cereal?

I thought they were quite high, myself, but I'm just grateful to be able to fulfill a dream I've always had.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 17, 2012, 08:15:58 PM
Here is an update from my job.  The hospital complex in Minneapolis, whose account I serve, has agreed to extend the contract with Dell for 3 years with two one year extensions when the 3 years expires in March 2015.  The only question is will they go with reduced staffing, status quo staffing, or increased staffing.  We should know the decision on that by the end of next week or the beginning of the following week.  It is likely that they will go with at least status quo staffing as they have several major projects being rolled out this year beginning in April and Dell will also take on a larger work load other than the major projects.

If, for some odd reason, they go with reduced staffing then I would likely be transferred to another account within Dell in March, such as Boeing, or Wellpoint Health Care, or ADT, or even the US Army.

In all likelihood, they will be go with at least status quo staffing, and if they do that, my manager will get the requisition orders opened on my position, as well as the two other contractors that are also on the account.

Also, my schedule will be changing next week.  He will send out the new schedule options tomorrow and will implement them sometime next week, probably next Saturday, January 28, 2012 as that is the beginning of the Dell pay period.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 17, 2012, 09:22:44 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Cereal?

I thought they were quite high, myself, but I'm just grateful to be able to fulfill a dream I've always had.

You've always had a dream to go to Kenya? Nothing wrong with it....just kind of a weird dream to have always had.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 17, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Cereal?

I thought they were quite high, myself, but I'm just grateful to be able to fulfill a dream I've always had.

You've always had a dream to go to Kenya? Nothing wrong with it....just kind of a weird dream to have always had.

Not necessarily to Kenya, but to Africa.  As a Christian, my passion is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the entire world and share with them the hope that I've found.  The Christians in African nations, as well as those in the Middle East, in China, and elsewhere in the Eastern and Southern Hemispheres are some of the most genuine believers in Christ because it is not as widespread and watered down there as it is in the Bible Belt and indeed in much of the United States.  The problem with Oklahoma and most of the Southeastern 1/4 of the United States is that there are too many churches, so they are competing with one another for attendance and in doing so watering the Gospel Truth down to where it tickles the ears and almost devoid of actual meaning.  Some of these television evangelists of these megachurces water down the Gospel way too much.  A couple examples, Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer both preach what you want to hear, not what you need to hear.  I think Joel is a great man in the faith and I don't question his sincerity one bit, but he preaches that God's will is for you to have nice houses, nice cars, and a fat bank account, and all the luxuries of life.  The nations of Africa don't have the luxuries that we have in America or much of Central and Western Europe.  So, the African Christians have to really rely on the truth of God's Word to get them through the difficult times.  They don't have these TV preachers to falsify God's Word, and they need, like the rest of the world, real, genuine Christ-centered preachers to tell them what they need to hear and that no matter what they've gone through or done there is hope.

I don't mean to preach, but I'm just explaining why I want to go overseas.

Plus, one of my favorite movies is John Wayne's Hatari.  The setting is, of course, the African Safari, and it just fascinates me to experience, at least for a week, what they experience day in and day out.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 18, 2012, 08:28:26 AM
I think African Christians would rather have money, but eh.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 18, 2012, 02:37:19 PM
I just received the new schedule options for work.  I had to choose 3 shifts and rank them in order of preference.  My preferences were 5:00-14:00, 5:30-14:30, 7:30-16:30, all Monday-Friday.  I don't think I'll have any trouble whatsoever in getting the 5:00-14:00 shift as from what I know of my coworkers, they will not want to get up that early in the morning to go to work.  If I do indeed get the 5:00-14:00 shift, my breaks and lunch will as follows:

Break 1     6:45-7:00
Break 2     9:00-9:15
Lunch       11:00-12:00

It will be interesting because I will have both breaks before lunch.  It will be nice, though, as I will have no stretch longer than 2 hours.  The past 7 months I've had one stretch every day of 2 hours 45 minutes, which was a very long stretch.

The schedule will start sometime next week.

Also, with this 5:00-14:00 shift, I would have to get up between 3:00 and 3:30 every morning at the very, very latest to get a shower and be out of the house by 4:15 and my optimal bed time hours would be 7:00-9:00 pm.  On the bright side, though, I would be home from work by 2:25 every afternoon, plus I wouldn't fight rush hour traffic.

I would also get my weekends back and be able to go to church on the first day of the week, which is Sunday.  Anytime I miss church on Sunday Morning, my week doesn't go quite right.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 18, 2012, 03:23:41 PM
Thats a stretch? I currently work 9 hours a day, and take a half hour lunch when I manage to find the time to grab something. Before I got this job, I'd work 13 hour days, and the only break I'd get is driving between them. You just get used to it and take what you can.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 19, 2012, 12:19:09 AM
Thats a stretch? I currently work 9 hours a day, and take a half hour lunch when I manage to find the time to grab something. Before I got this job, I'd work 13 hour days, and the only break I'd get is driving between them. You just get used to it and take what you can.

What I mean by "stretch" is a block of work, defined as the time period between breaks/lunch/off clock or any other period that I am not taking calls.  To begin the day, I would have a 1 hour 45 minute block until my 6:45 break. Then, I would have a 2 hour block from 7:00 to my 9:00 break, followed by a 1 hour 45 minute block from 9:15 to my 11:00 lunch, finalized with a 2 hour block from 12:00 to 2:00.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Ebowed on January 19, 2012, 04:37:12 AM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Cereal?

Yeah I found that perplexing as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on January 19, 2012, 04:51:15 AM
Spreading Christianity to uncultured peoples.  Surprised this still goes on.  A trip to Viking Resort in the Dominican Republic would be so much more worth your while Bushie.  Just tell everyone you're going to Africa for "missionary work" then use the money to have a good time!

Too late! I've already got $1600 plane tickets to Kenya!! ($1200 ticket + $400 Travel Agent fees)

Cereal?

Yeah I found that perplexing as well.

Don't worry guys, it's god's will obviously...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on January 19, 2012, 04:51:50 AM
Hang on $400 travel agency fee?

That's 1/3 of the ticket price... that's unheard of!!

Unless you mean airport taxes etc?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Ebowed on January 19, 2012, 07:13:55 AM
Hang on $400 travel agency fee?

That's 1/3 of the ticket price... that's unheard of!!

Unless you mean airport taxes etc?

I think he means the fee charged by the very lucky person ripping off whoever booked his trip for him.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on January 19, 2012, 07:19:17 AM
It wouldn't be a true Bushie escapade without him being royally scammed in some way.  But I'm sure he'll be along in a minute to justify why it's all okay, and that it's God's will and so on.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 19, 2012, 07:55:40 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the 400 bucks is just what the travel agent charged to do the leg work. Joe is right though, it wouldnt be a Bushie kidn of thing without it. I've got to admit, I was a little upset at the start of this season. I thought we were going to start discussing more about a possible Susan reunion, or something good like that. But luckfully, the writers really knew how to get us back in.

 Bravo writers, bravo.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 19, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
Hang on $400 travel agency fee?

That's 1/3 of the ticket price... that's unheard of!!

Unless you mean airport taxes etc?

Nope, all the ticket taxes and fees are included in the $1200.  The actual ticket was under $800.  I thought the $400 travel agent fees were quite high, but they did warn us about that before we signed up.  They warned us the tickets would be a total of $1500-$1600.  It turns out it was $1597.xx per person.

The rest of the trip is only $850 plus $250 Visa/Spending Money.  By the end of January, I will have $800 of the $850 raised.  I'll get the spending money out in early March just before I leave so I don't lose it or spend it and so the bills can be as crisp as possible, which helps with currency conversion.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 20, 2012, 03:20:56 PM
I will have my entire Kenya trip paid for by the first weekend of February, two weeks from now.  Right now, I'm sitting at $2000 minus the $1600 plane ticket leaving a balance of $400.  The remainder of the trip (roundtrip flight from Nairobi to Kisumu, lodging in Nairobi and at Maisha Guest House, 3 meals a day, snacks, ground transportation to and from the construction site) is $850.  I will have the remaining $450 sent in by Saturday, February 4, 2012.  The only expenses I have left after that are my $98 yellow fever shot on February 1 and my spending money/visa money which I'm going to reduce to $150 instead of $250.  The visa is $50 to enter the country which will leave me with $100 for airport food/Kenya souvenirs, and water bottles in Kenya.  I have been told that a 5-liter bottle of water is only about $2.50 US dollars and I can refill that each day.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 20, 2012, 09:55:31 PM
Even though I don't go into work until 6:00 the next 4 days, I am going to go ahead and start getting up at the time I normally would for my 5:00 shift which should start Wednesday or Thursday.  This means, my alarm will be going off at 2:50 am tomorrow morning which is now under 6 hours from now, so I will make this brief.

I am about to embark on what could be 7 straight days of work if the schedules take effect on Wednesday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 21, 2012, 07:07:50 AM
As of this morning, I have now lost 18 pounds down to weight of 267.  I had hit a little plateau there for about 10 days or so, at 17 1/2 pounds, until this morning.  It feels good to be able to say I've lost almost 20 pounds.  This diet is almost 10 weeks old, so I'm losing a little under 2 pounds a week on average.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on January 21, 2012, 07:51:57 AM
Hang on $400 travel agency fee?

That's 1/3 of the ticket price... that's unheard of!!

Unless you mean airport taxes etc?

Nope, all the ticket taxes and fees are included in the $1200.  The actual ticket was under $800.  I thought the $400 travel agent fees were quite high, but they did warn us about that before we signed up.  They warned us the tickets would be a total of $1500-$1600.  It turns out it was $1597.xx per person.

The rest of the trip is only $850 plus $250 Visa/Spending Money.  By the end of January, I will have $800 of the $850 raised.  I'll get the spending money out in early March just before I leave so I don't lose it or spend it and so the bills can be as crisp as possible, which helps with currency conversion.

Wait... seriously.

I've bought a LOT of tickets from travel agents... and my booking fees never exceeded $40... ever.

I bought my ticket for Europe in  July last year for $1940... and the booking fee was $35.

You've been had... someone should report them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 21, 2012, 08:53:08 AM
Hang on $400 travel agency fee?

That's 1/3 of the ticket price... that's unheard of!!

Unless you mean airport taxes etc?

Nope, all the ticket taxes and fees are included in the $1200.  The actual ticket was under $800.  I thought the $400 travel agent fees were quite high, but they did warn us about that before we signed up.  They warned us the tickets would be a total of $1500-$1600.  It turns out it was $1597.xx per person.

The rest of the trip is only $850 plus $250 Visa/Spending Money.  By the end of January, I will have $800 of the $850 raised.  I'll get the spending money out in early March just before I leave so I don't lose it or spend it and so the bills can be as crisp as possible, which helps with currency conversion.

Wait... seriously.

I've bought a LOT of tickets from travel agents... and my booking fees never exceeded $40... ever.

I bought my ticket for Europe in  July last year for $1940... and the booking fee was $35.

You've been had... someone should report them.

Maybe, but I'm not worried about it.  This trip has been happening every March for the past several years and they haven't had any trouble, so I'm confident.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 22, 2012, 07:46:21 AM
I can't help myself but weighing everyday.  I know that's not good, but I would go crazy if I don't.  I'm still between 17 1/2 and 18 pounds lost this morning.  I had a big lunch yesterday, but a relatively light dinner.  I'm knocking on the door of the 20 pound mark and I'm determined to not only meet 20 pounds, but exceed it in the coming days and weeks.  The recent trend has been losing a half pound, then holding steady for a week or so and then losing another half pound.  It seems like I hit the wall during that week, but the thing is I don't bounce back off the wall.  I hold steady within 2 pounds of my new best.  It's gotten to the point that regular Coke tastes nasty to me and I usually end up throwing half the can out.

This should be my final Sunday that I have to work today.  My schedule should change by mid-week (I hopefully will know tomorrow) and I should be able to work Wednesday-Friday and off Saturday-Sunday this week.  I can't wait to go back to church Sunday morning.  I miss being with my church family worshipping with them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 23, 2012, 08:17:25 PM
As of 11:00 pm tonight, I am exactly 96 days from my 30th birthday.  I have got a whole list of lifestyle changes I want to make and have in place before I begin my 4th decade on this earth.  One of those changes is trying to lose another 20 pounds.  I have already lost 18 pounds in the last 2 1/2 months, so I don't figure it should be too hard to lose another 20 pounds to get down into the 240s, which is substantially down from my peak of 285 on the morning of Monday, November 14, 2011.  I am already down to 267.0, and I hope to get down between 245-250 by the time I celebrate my 30th birthday.

I do have a confession to make.  While I have successfully switched to Coke Zero and Diet Dr. Pepper, I have still been eating quite a bit of fast food and pizza, mainly because nearly everything in my house is past the expiration date.  I don't go grocery shopping very often, but that's one of the changes I plan on making.  I am going to go shopping this Friday evening at Walmart so I can eat healthy food at home rather than going out.  This will accomplish two goals, (1) save a ton of money and (2) probably allow me to lose weight at a faster clip.  I've done great in my weight loss goal over the past 2 1/2 months, but I know there is more I can do and I plan to go shopping this Friday evening when I have more time to shop without having to rush home to bed.  I am also going to start taking my lunch to work on Monday, as well, so that will also help in both goals.

I've also got other lifestyle changes I'm going to make, all in an effort to increase the quality and productivity of my life.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 24, 2012, 12:54:37 PM
I've also got other lifestyle changes I'm going to make, all in an effort to increase the quality and productivity of my life.

A real girl might help that.....


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on January 24, 2012, 04:54:53 PM
If you want to lose weight just drop the soda altogether man...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 26, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
As of 11:00 pm tonight (5 minutes ago), I have officially crossed underneath 50 full days until the midnight of the day that the Kenya Mission Trip begins, accounting for the time change on Sunday, March 11, 2012.

I've got a bunch of stuff I still have to do in the mean time to get ready for the trip.  I am 50 days away, so I will need to start packing in 25-30 days from now, just so I can have plenty of time to get what I need to take put away so I don't use it.  I'll probably start packing on Saturday, February 18 or 25, 2012.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 26, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
As of 11:00 pm tonight (5 minutes ago), I have officially crossed underneath 50 full days until the midnight of the day that the Kenya Mission Trip begins, accounting for the time change on Sunday, March 11, 2012.

I've got a bunch of stuff I still have to do in the mean time to get ready for the trip.  I am 50 days away, so I will need to start packing in 25-30 days from now, just so I can have plenty of time to get what I need to take put away so I don't use it.  I'll probably start packing on Saturday, February 18 or 25, 2012.

Ahhhhhhh OCD issues...love it


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 26, 2012, 07:09:21 PM
As of 11:00 pm tonight (5 minutes ago), I have officially crossed underneath 50 full days until the midnight of the day that the Kenya Mission Trip begins, accounting for the time change on Sunday, March 11, 2012.

I've got a bunch of stuff I still have to do in the mean time to get ready for the trip.  I am 50 days away, so I will need to start packing in 25-30 days from now, just so I can have plenty of time to get what I need to take put away so I don't use it.  I'll probably start packing on Saturday, February 18 or 25, 2012.

Ahhhhhhh OCD issues...love it

You'd better believe it!! Not ashamed of it, either. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on January 26, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
I pack anywhere from the night before to 5 hours before transatlantic trips.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 26, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
I pack the night before I leave. ALWAYS. I packed the night before I moved to PA.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on January 26, 2012, 07:33:12 PM
When I left for 6-weeks in Europe... I packed on the morning I left..


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 27, 2012, 05:44:42 PM
The schedules haven't changed, yet, but I'm not too suprised as my supervisor has been sick and trying to move into a new house this past week.  He's been pre-occupied.  The schedules should change next week as he gets both of those time-takers behind him.  In the mean time, I'm still going into Week 34 tomorrow just like normal, with one exception.  I do have this Sunday off.  I am switching off with one of my coworkers.  I will work tomorrow and then work again Monday and Tuesday.  I could get upset that the schedules have not changed, and I have gotten upset, but then I realize that I still have a steady, good paying job and that is something not everybody can say in this economy.  God has blessed me with a job, and I am going to do that job no matter what schedule I am given.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 27, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
The schedules haven't changed, yet, but I'm not too suprised as my supervisor has been sick and trying to move into a new house this past week.  He's been pre-occupied.  The schedules should change next week as he gets both of those time-takers behind him.  In the mean time, I'm still going into Week 34 tomorrow just like normal, with one exception.  I do have this Sunday off.  I am switching off with one of my coworkers.  I will work tomorrow and then work again Monday and Tuesday.  I could get upset that the schedules have not changed, and I have gotten upset, but then I realize that I still have a steady, good paying job and that is something not everybody can say in this economy.  God has blessed me with a job, and I am going to do that job no matter what schedule I am given.

I got an email from my supervisor this evening saying the schedules will change this coming week.  I've got probably 3 more days of this 6-5 shift since I am off on Sunday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 30, 2012, 04:46:29 PM
Holy Cow!! My schedule has done a MAJOR flip-flop.  I was thinking it would be 5-2 or 5:30-2:30.  Boy, was I wrong.  I am now working 12-9 Monday-Friday beginning this Wednesday.  I'll still work one more 6-5 shift tomorrow and then switch to 12-9 on Wednesday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 30, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
My breaks and lunch schedule will look like this...

13:45-14:00    Break
15:30-16:30    Lunch
18:30-18:45    Break

This means no "block" more than 2 hours 15 minutes and that just at the very end of the day.  I believe I can handle it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on January 30, 2012, 05:03:14 PM
When I left for 6-weeks in Europe... I packed on the morning I left..
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm not sure how one could pack weeks in advance. I don't own enough clothes to have stuff packed away and change clothes everyday before leaving. The bathroom items are even worse. Have to wait to the absolute last minute for those.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on January 30, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
My breaks and lunch schedule will look like this...

13:45-14:00    Break
15:30-16:30    Lunch
18:30-18:45    Break

This means no "block" more than 2 hours 15 minutes and that just at the very end of the day.  I believe I can handle it.

I tend to work 9 hours.. straight. No breaks. If you can't handle it, than you can turn your penis in and we'll go ahead and get you fitted for a nice magina.

Let the infractions begin.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 30, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
My breaks and lunch schedule will look like this...

13:45-14:00    Break
15:30-16:30    Lunch
18:30-18:45    Break

This means no "block" more than 2 hours 15 minutes and that just at the very end of the day.  I believe I can handle it.

I tend to work 9 hours.. straight. No breaks. If you can't handle it, than you can turn your penis in and we'll go ahead and get you fitted for a nice magina.

Let the infractions begin.

I can definitely do it and I never said I couldn't do it.  I do like the breaks, though.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 31, 2012, 06:11:32 AM
Today is my final 6-5 shift.  I will be working 12-9 starting tomorrow, February 1, 2012.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 31, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
I have an update on the permanent status...

Today, January 31, I received word that I will be interviewing for a separate position within Dell sometime in early February.  If I succeed in that interview, I will be on permanent in February.  If I don't get that, he has several contigency plans in the cooker ready to activate in early March to get me on permanent.  So, I will definitely be on permanent no later than March.  If that happens, my benefits will take effect by April 1.  Either way, it's looking like my Kenya trip will be unpaid leave, which is unnerving, but my God has called me to go, and i have faith that He will provide.  I've got contingency plans and backup funds available and ready to activate in March for my bills.  So, I'm not worried.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 31, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
Either way, it's looking like my Kenya trip will be unpaid leave, which is unnerving, but my God has called me to go, and i have faith that He will provide.  I've got contingency plans and backup funds available and ready to activate in March for my bills.  So, I'm not worried.

Sure it's formulaic, and we've seen it a hundred times before, but the writers are returning to a tried and true trope that's entertained the audience in the past. Maybe by putting it in the Africa setting, they'll breathe some new life into the well-worn formula.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on January 31, 2012, 11:30:40 PM
Based on my current rate of pay, I will lose roughly $600 for the time I'm gone to Kenya.  I am expecting a decent tax return this year, so that will help mitigate some of that $600, and like I said I've got a backup plan for the rest of the deficit ready to activate.  I'm not worried at all.  The writers can just hush and put down their pens...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 01, 2012, 01:18:01 AM
It is February 2012 now and that means it is a brand new month.  I am looking forward to this month.  This is my final full month of being a contract employee at Dell.  I will be on permanent either in February or in early March, presumaby within the next 5 weeks.  No, I won't get paid for my time away in Kenya, but I will have a job before AND after I get back, so the unpaid time will be limited to just 7 days (56 hours).  I am really excited about the month that lay ahead.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 01, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
My Kenya trip is completely paid off, except for the spending/visa money which I will take with me.  I just submitted the last $300 a few minutes ago.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 02, 2012, 10:54:43 AM
Do you have a lil collection plate outside of your house, your church, work, what? 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 02, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
Either way, it's looking like my Kenya trip will be unpaid leave, which is unnerving, but my God has called me to go, and i have faith that He will provide.  I've got contingency plans and backup funds available and ready to activate in March for my bills.  So, I'm not worried.

Sure it's formulaic, and we've seen it a hundred times before, but the writers are returning to a tried and true trope that's entertained the audience in the past. Maybe by putting it in the Africa setting, they'll breathe some new life into the well-worn formula.



This reminds me of when John Carter went to Afrika on E.R.  It was good, but made you appreciate Chicago. I hope this is kind of like that. The writers are up to somethign here.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 02, 2012, 06:29:43 PM
Do you have a lil collection plate outside of your house, your church, work, what? 

No, I've just been able to fundraise.  God has shown me where and how to get the money.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 02, 2012, 06:32:16 PM
I'm at work on my second 12-9 shift.  I think I might actually like this shift.  I only took 15 calls yesterday and so far only 10 today.  I'm sure glad my supervisor allowed me to come in yesterday, today, and tomorrow as they were my scheduled days off since the new schedule doesn't actually begin until Saturday.  If he hadn't, I would have had only 10 hours on this week's check.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on February 02, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
What do you do?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 02, 2012, 07:08:56 PM

I am a Help Desk Technical Support Analyst for Dell.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on February 02, 2012, 07:10:14 PM

I see. Glad to see they're still around here. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 02, 2012, 07:14:55 PM

Yep, they're still around.  They have several offices throughout the United States, in places such as Oklahoma City, Round Rock, TX, Twin Falls, ID, Nashville, a few spots in Ohio and North Carolina, and internationally, as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 04, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Weight Update:

I have now lost 19 pounds!! I am sitting at a weight of 266.0 down from my peak of 285.0.  Yesterday, I just had a small cheeseburger at lunch from the Dell cafeteria, but no fries, and for my 3:30 dinner I had a small hamburger, no cheese and no fries.  Not the best meal, but it did allow me to lose a pound overnight.  This morning, I am going grocery shopping and will start taking my lunch next week, so I can even cut down the hamburgers.  I am encouraged by the fact I have now lost 19 pounds!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 04, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
I went grocery shopping this morning and spent a fair amount of money getting mostly breakfast and lunch and snack items.  9:30-10:00 is too late for dinner and the only nights I have any chance to be home for general dinner time are Saturday and Sunday, so I decided to get mostly breakfast and lunch items.  My plan is for most mornings is to eat a late breakfast around 10:00 and then have a light lunch during my actual lunch break at 3:30 and then maybe a little snack after I get home.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 06, 2012, 12:41:46 AM
A quick update on Kenya.  As many of you may know, one of our tasks when we get to the East African country is to help build a medical clinic for the Maisha Orphanage.  They just broke ground on it within the past few days and it should be ready for us to help build the walls during the week that we'll actually be on the ground.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 06, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
I just mailed my voter's registration application this morning in favor of the Republican Party so I can vote in the Republican Presidential Primary on Tuesday, March 6, 2012.  I mailed it just in time as the deadline to change parties was February 14.  I'm looking forward to casting my vote for Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

I may change it back to the Democratic Party in April, though, so I can vote in the Democratic State Primary on Tuesday, June 26, 2012.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on February 06, 2012, 08:55:05 PM
A quick update on Kenya.  As many of you may know, one of our tasks when we get to the East African country is to help build a medical clinic for the Maisha Orphanage.  They just broke ground on it within the past few days and it should be ready for us to help build the walls during the week that we'll actually be on the ground.
You're going to be building walls? You know how to do that?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 06, 2012, 09:34:54 PM
A quick update on Kenya.  As many of you may know, one of our tasks when we get to the East African country is to help build a medical clinic for the Maisha Orphanage.  They just broke ground on it within the past few days and it should be ready for us to help build the walls during the week that we'll actually be on the ground.
You're going to be building walls? You know how to do that?

I'll probably end up being a "go-for".  It'll be interesting to learn a little masonry.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on February 06, 2012, 09:55:31 PM
A quick update on Kenya.  As many of you may know, one of our tasks when we get to the East African country is to help build a medical clinic for the Maisha Orphanage.  They just broke ground on it within the past few days and it should be ready for us to help build the walls during the week that we'll actually be on the ground.
You're going to be building walls? You know how to do that?

I'll probably end up being a "go-for".  It'll be interesting to learn a little masonry.

How will you be able to manage any physical labor?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 06, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
A quick update on Kenya.  As many of you may know, one of our tasks when we get to the East African country is to help build a medical clinic for the Maisha Orphanage.  They just broke ground on it within the past few days and it should be ready for us to help build the walls during the week that we'll actually be on the ground.
You're going to be building walls? You know how to do that?

I'll probably end up being a "go-for".  It'll be interesting to learn a little masonry.

How will you be able to manage any physical labor?

I'll be able to manage.  I'll take some Aleve with me and a back brace.  I can do physical labor, and the tasks don't sound to be that strenuous.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 05:59:22 PM
As of this morning, I have now lost 19 1/4 pounds.  I've changed my diet just a bit.  I'm having a couple bowls of whole grain cereal in the morning (Honey Nut Cheerios right now) and then a couple ham sandwiches for lunch and a small snack when I get home.  I haven't gone out to eat in at least 5 days, which is a record for me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 07, 2012, 06:15:22 PM
Congrats! I'm proud of you! Have you hit the gym yet? I have been keeping in shape too since my c**t of a girlfriend split up with me. That said, I am having pizza and beer tonight while watching the election returns, so its a bit of a cheat meal for me..


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 06:19:16 PM
Congrats! I'm proud of you! Have you hit the gym yet? I have been keeping in shape too since my c**t of a girlfriend split up with me. That said, I am having pizza and beer tonight while watching the election returns, so its a bit of a cheat meal for me..

Thanks, Duke!  I haven't hit the gym, yet, mainly because I can't afford a gym membership.  I've been doing a lot of walking during my lunch hour at work.  I can smell 20 pounds and then some.  Right now, my current weight as of this morning was 265.8 which is down from 285.0 when I first started on November 14.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Yelnoc on February 07, 2012, 06:27:10 PM
Congrats! I'm proud of you! Have you hit the gym yet? I have been keeping in shape too since my c**t of a girlfriend split up with me. That said, I am having pizza and beer tonight while watching the election returns, so its a bit of a cheat meal for me..

Thanks, Duke!  I haven't hit the gym, yet, mainly because I can't afford a gym membership.  I've been doing a lot of walking during my lunch hour at work.  I can smell 20 pounds and then some.  Right now, my current weight as of this morning was 265.8 which is down from 285.0 when I first started on November 14.
May I suggest calisthenics like push-ups, sit-ups, planks, back flexors, wall sits, leg lifts, etc?  And then down the road, replacing the walking with jogging, and then running?

Oh, and congrats on the progress :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 06:31:12 PM
Congrats! I'm proud of you! Have you hit the gym yet? I have been keeping in shape too since my c**t of a girlfriend split up with me. That said, I am having pizza and beer tonight while watching the election returns, so its a bit of a cheat meal for me..

Thanks, Duke!  I haven't hit the gym, yet, mainly because I can't afford a gym membership.  I've been doing a lot of walking during my lunch hour at work.  I can smell 20 pounds and then some.  Right now, my current weight as of this morning was 265.8 which is down from 285.0 when I first started on November 14.
May I suggest calisthenics like push-ups, sit-ups, planks, back flexors, wall sits, leg lifts, etc?  And then down the road, replacing the walking with jogging, and then running?

Oh, and congrats on the progress :)

I will try a few things in the next few weeks and see how it goes.

Thanks for the encouragement, Yelnoc. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:16:53 AM
Here is what my diet consisted of today:

2 Bowls Honey Nut Cheerios for breakfast
2 Ham Sandwiches for lunch
2 Hot Dogs for supper

I am already on track to lose even more weight by tomorrow morning. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 08, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
Here is what my diet consisted of today:

2 Bowls Honey Nut Cheerios for breakfast
2 Ham Sandwiches for lunch
2 Hot Dogs for supper

I am already on track to lose even more weight by tomorrow morning. :)

That's a diet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 08, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
Here is what my diet consisted of today:

2 Bowls Honey Nut Cheerios for breakfast
2 Ham Sandwiches for lunch
2 Hot Dogs for supper

I am already on track to lose even more weight by tomorrow morning. :)

That's a diet?

Yeah.. that sounds like the complete opposite. Maybe you have a worm


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Here is what my diet consisted of today:

2 Bowls Honey Nut Cheerios for breakfast
2 Ham Sandwiches for lunch
2 Hot Dogs for supper

I am already on track to lose even more weight by tomorrow morning. :)

That's a diet?

Yeah.. that sounds like the complete opposite. Maybe you have a worm

Well, maybe not in the traditional sense, but it did help me drop another quarter pound this morning to 19 1/2 pounds.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on February 08, 2012, 10:58:12 AM
Here is what my diet consisted of today:

2 Bowls Honey Nut Cheerios for breakfast
2 Ham Sandwiches for lunch
2 Hot Dogs for supper

I am already on track to lose even more weight by tomorrow morning. :)

That's a diet?

While it isnt a balanced or particularly healthy meal plan, I would peg it around 1800-1900 calories and below his metabolic rate.  I mean you could theoretically lose weight eating nothing but Big Macs but that doesnt mean you should.

Bushie, congrats a weight loss thus far.  Keep trying to mix in the exercise and throw in some greens/fruit now and again.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 08, 2012, 01:11:58 PM
Uh... I hope he's taking a multivitamin or something because that doesn't sound very nutritious at all.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 09, 2012, 10:59:04 AM
As of this morning, I have now lost just a tick shy of 21 pounds.  I am down to 264.2 doing the same thing I've been doing all this week.  I really believe I can lose another 10 pounds or so before I go to Kenya in 5 weeks.

On the job front, I talked with my Contract Manager yesterday and will to my Account Manager today and my Contract Manager said everything was looking alright.  I didn't get the job that I interviewed for on Monday, but that really should only delay me by 2-4 weeks.  I heard my Account Manager check on the requisition orders that he submitted for my position a couple weeks ago and he's been pressing them to get it done saying that he has a contractor whose contract expires March 8, so he needs it expeditiously.  I was encouraged by that.  I will talk to him this afternoon and see where things stand.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 09, 2012, 11:06:11 PM
I do have an update on the job front from today:

I talked with the Account Manager and he has submitted the req orders earlier this week and they should be back within a couple of weeks because he put a rush on it.  I will still need to go through the interview process once again, and improve on my technical skills. He asked 5 questions in the technical portion of the interview, and I only got one right on this last interview. I have researched and found the answer to at least 3 more of the questions and I should be able to get the last one without sweat.  He really liked my soft skill answers, but I need to improve on the technical side.  He said the ball is basically in my court.  If I can knock those technical questions (all of which are basic knowledge) and do the same with the soft skills, I'll be golden.  His goal is to have me on permanet, or at least give me a start date, by March 1, though it may be slightly after before I actually start.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 10, 2012, 07:54:22 AM
OOOHHHHH something good is on the horizon!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 10, 2012, 10:11:26 AM
I can see the tides beginning to turn in this thread. Those must be difficult technical questions if you can't even find the answers online!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 10, 2012, 10:23:52 AM
I can see the tides beginning to turn in this thread. Those must be difficult technical questions if you can't even find the answers online!

I have been looking the answers up online and am becoming more efficient.  My goal is just to translate that into the interview room.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 10, 2012, 01:23:11 PM
I'm hoping Bushie has something to come back to when he returns from Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 10, 2012, 02:02:29 PM
I'm hoping Bushie has something to come back to when he returns from Kenya.

See, I think this is a part of the mid season sweeps. Gearing up for a new adventure past Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 10, 2012, 03:01:35 PM
I'm hoping Bushie has something to come back to when he returns from Kenya.

See, I think this is a part of the mid season sweeps. Gearing up for a new adventure past Kenya.

I hate job search re-runs, Andrew..........booooooooring.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 10, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
I'm hoping Bushie has something to come back to when he returns from Kenya.

See, I think this is a part of the mid season sweeps. Gearing up for a new adventure past Kenya.

I hate job search re-runs, Andrew..........booooooooring.

I have really solidified my responses to the technical questions.  I misspoke last night, though, I said I had gotten 1 out of 5 right, actually that was just the average. I got 2 of 10.  However, I remembered today what the other questions were and found the answers to them and have them written down and practiced them thoroughly and I believe if I were given the interview on Monday, I would have no trouble acing the puppy, going 10/10.

The req orders should officially open up either next week or the week after and I will get an interview shortly after it opens and if I do ace it, I will be starting permanent probably around Monday, March 5, which is about 3 weeks from now.  The ball is really in my court, now, it's mine to lose.

I'm pretty confident.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 12, 2012, 08:55:08 PM
I am about to get started studying again for my interview, which is comprised of general A+ questions.  There is a pretty good chance the position could officially open up this week.  If it doesn't open this week, it will most likely open next week.  The interview will come within two or three days of the position opening, and the start date probably one or two Mondays after that.  I'm excited about the upcoming week, Week 36.  Month 9 at Dell will officially begin tomorrow, as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 15, 2012, 10:39:27 PM
A job update:  I was starting to get concerned that my contract was going to expire before I got on permanent since I only have 3 weeks left.  However, that all changed about 7:30 this evening.  I was looking at the Career section of the Dell website and found not one, but four positions open of the same type just different clients.  I applied for all four positions.  I don't know if one of the positions is the one I have been waiting on or not.  If it is, then I have quadrupled my chances and if it is not, i have quintupled my chances, as I would have 5 applications instead of just 1.  I am now waiting on the interview, which should be next week or the week after and then, if i can pass it, like I think I should, I will have no trouble starting sometime early in March.

I was really starting to get concerned that I was going to be looking for a job on March 9, and the writers were going to start a mid-season job search series, but I am more confident that with these 4 or 5 positions, I have a much better chance of getting on permanent!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 16, 2012, 09:55:50 AM
We shall see. The writers have something for us. This season has started to get stale.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 16, 2012, 10:54:46 PM
I have an update from today:

I found out some really good news. The 4 req orders I applied for don't necessarily correspond to just one position.  One req order could include a class of up to 35 people.  Which, if that's the case, then I've got a lot more opportunities than just the 4 positions, which is already a lot better than just 1 position, which is looking like it may not happen in time for the end of my contract on  March 8.  So, what it is looking like at this time is one or two of those req orders should be about ready to close and the interviews should be about ready to be scheduled.  I imagine I will get an interview on at least one of the positions by the end of next week or the beginning of the following week, which put a start date probably on Monday, March 5 or Monday, March 12 because of the temporary hiring freeze that Dell is implementing the second week of March.  I'm sure with the freeze the managers want to haste things along so they can get in the needed manpower rather than having to wait until the freeze is lifted in April or May.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 17, 2012, 11:00:58 AM
So  you really think  jetting off to Kenya isn't going to screw the chance to get a decent full time job?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 17, 2012, 02:37:43 PM
God has a plan for BuskOK, gramps. This Kenya trip is just part of it. He wouldn't have called him to go if it meant he would lose his job and become destitute once again.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 17, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
God has a plan for BuskOK, gramps. This Kenya trip is just part of it. He wouldn't have called him to go if it meant he would lose his job and become destitute once again.

Sometimes I feel like this comes out of the Book of Job. But alas, I'll leave the brilliance to the writers.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 17, 2012, 06:48:11 PM
I do have an update again tonight.  This afternoon, I was told they are extending my contract through the beginning of May.  The hiring freeze will be in effect from March 12-April 18 and will lift on April 19.  My manager is hoping to get the req orders approved next week.  During the freeze, they can still interview and get things ready to rock and roll, they just can't do any HR processing or anything like that.  The plan, from what I've been told, is that if I can hit a home run with this interview, I will be on permanent toward the end of April.  Now, if one of these other positions come calling, it could still be the beginning of March.  The contract extension approval will be official on Monday, and it should be in effect through May 8.  They are doing everything they possibly can to hire me on permanent, it just may be another couple months before it actually happens.  At least, I will have a job before I go to Kenya and a job when I get back.  The three most likely dates for full time conversion are March 5, April 23, and April 30.  If it's with the same account, it will be the April dates.  If it's with another account, it could be any one of the three.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 17, 2012, 09:06:50 PM
I'm trying to decide on something here, and maybe you can help me out.  I have an AT&T interview this Wednesday, February 22, 2012 at 8:30 am where they could very well extend a job offer.  Dell is close to, but not quite, a certainty.  AT&T would probably pay a little less and it is governed by a union.  The AT&T position wouldn't start until March 26 (meaning I would have to come home from Kenya a day early), so I would have three weeks to cancel it if Dell produced fruit.  In this instance, is a bird in the hand really worth two in the bush?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 17, 2012, 09:23:57 PM
If we have learned anything in this saga, it is the main character tends to be a bit optimistic about his chances. My advice is to take whichever job is extended to you, if one is, rather than assume Dell will rehire you. If you were having trouble with tech help and knowing answers to basic questions, I would not feel overly confident that you will be hired full time. That is the vibe I am getting from the writers. I predict, however, you will get the AT&T job, turn it down so you can spend an extra day in Kenya, and then not get hired by Dell. The main character will return to the unemployment life like he was most of last season.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 17, 2012, 09:27:16 PM
So, you're basically saying a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?    That's what I was kind of thinking, because I want to secure a job for several years to come, not just a couple months.  I want to foil the writer's plans. :)

One of my other thoughts toward that is everyone knows what happens when one assumes.  Makes a donkey out of you and me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 17, 2012, 09:31:49 PM
Listen, brother, I am not following all these saying you're spewing out of that mouth of yours, but if you think having a sure thing job regardless of pay for the moment is better than taking a risk, then we agree. ;)

Nothing is a sure thing, especially in Oklahoma, so if AT&T extends you an offer, take it. Don't assume Dell will hire you, because if you make that huge assumption, it will likely come back to bite you and you will be unemployed once again, and this thread will start over, with you looking for a job and hopefully finding another fiancée.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 17, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
I think I'm going to have to agree with you, Duke.  Again, with AT&T not starting until March 26, that gives me 3 weeks to see if Dell can offer me a job.  If it does, then I can cancel AT&T.  If it does not, then I'm in good shape because I have a plan for the longer term future, not just the early spring of 2012.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 17, 2012, 09:46:59 PM
If you can cancel on AT&T anyway, then why is this even a question? At least if Dell doesn't come through, you will have a job, and if they do, you will have choices. Sounds ideal to me. Less money coming in is better than no money coming in. Remember, you don't want to mooch off your parents anymore than you already have! You're 30 now! A big boy!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 17, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
Exactly, Duke, that's what I'm starting to realize.  My mother is retiring on April 30, so their support is out of the question.  Some of my friends will tell me have faith and trust in God, but my God also tells me that there is something called common sense, which sadly is not very common.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 17, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Praise!!!! You're finally getting it!! God wants us to use the common sense he so diligently gave us!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on February 18, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
This thread has taught me that I am really glad that I was never Buskok's boss. I know it is a part of your condition but people really hate being asked the same thing over and again.  Stretching back a few months ago with your scheduling and days off likely hurt you. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 18, 2012, 06:16:57 AM
If I end up re-locating my office to Pittsburgh, I'm going to be in charge, and have to hire about 8 new people... I think I might just offer Bushie a job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 18, 2012, 11:19:31 AM
Bushie, why is momma needing to retire?  She can't be that old.  Is she ok?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 18, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
Won't you still be in Kenya March 26th?  The writers are confusing me


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on February 18, 2012, 12:20:03 PM
Quote
My mother is retiring on April 30, so their support is out of the question.

In my book, such support would have been "out of the question" long ago. Jeff is most fortunate that I am not his father - as I am sure he would agree. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 18, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
Bushie, why is momma needing to retire?  She can't be that old.  Is she ok?

She will be 60 in October and has been working at Tinker AFB since 1978, so it's time for her to retire.

If I got the job at AT&T, I would come back from Kenya a day early (there are provisions to do this.)

However, my father, mother, and brother gave me some advice.  They said I would be starting over at AT&T and it could end up like Sprint did, which isn't well.  They said I'd be better off sticking with Dell and focusing all my attention there and continuing to improve on the technical questions and also improving in my day to day work, as well.  About 4:00 yesterday, in the middle of my lunch break, they even gave me possible start dates, all Mondays, either March 5, April 23, April 30, or May 7.  They have every intention of bringing me on permanent, I just have to hit a homerun on this interview and we have to work around the hiring freeze.  The hiring freeze is why they are extending my contract for two months.  If I don't get the March 5 start date, I should know sometime in early April if and when I start later that month, because they can interview and make their decision during the freeze, they just can't do anything with HR in that period of time.  In fact, it is very possible, I could have a definitive start date by the end of February, which is 8 working days from now.  So, I'm going to say thanks, but no thanks, to AT&T and focus all my attention on Dell.  I'm only 3 1/2 months away from my 1 year anniversary at Dell, which is a lot better than starting from scratch in an environment that may end up like Sprint which died after only 8 weeks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 19, 2012, 11:20:48 PM
A Kenya update:

We had our final official meeting this evening.  We discussed several things including exactly what we'll be doing, which includes building a medical clinic, helping the doctor and nurse at the existing medical clinic, Going into the slums and ministering to those sick with HIV/AIDS as well as other diseases, Assisting at the orphanage and providing for their basic needs.  We also discussed the packing party, which we'll have in two weeks on Sunday, March 4, 2012 where we will pack all the extra supplies that we are going to take such as light weight tools like paint rollers and pans and school supplies for the children.  We want to distribute the materials in each of our bags so the weight in each bag doesn't exceed the 50 lb weight limit for the bag.  We will have two suitcases each, one for personal items and one for supplies, plus a backpack carry on and a laptop sachel or such.

We also received the daily itinerary and schedule for the time we'll be on the ground.  We'll arrive in Nairobi at 8:40 pm EAT (Eastern Africa Time), 12:40 pm CDT, 1:40 pm EDT on Saturday, March 17.  It'll take us 3 or 4 hours to clear customs, get our visas, and officially enter the country.  We'll be bussed to a hotel in Nairobi for a quick morning's sleep and be back at the Nairobi airport by 6:00 am Sunday, March 18 (10:00 pm Saturday in Oklahoma) to fly to Kisumu and then we'll be bussed over to the Guest House for breakfast, rest, and then lunch.  We'll leave for Maisha, the site of the work for a Welcoming Ceremony.  We'll work on the ground Monday-Saturday with a general daily schedule like this:

7:00-8:30 am - Breakfast
8:30-9:00 am - Drive to Maisha
9:00-1:00 pm - Team Maisha Projects
1:00-2:00 pm - Lunch at Maisha
2:00-5:30 pm - Team Maisha Projects
5:30-6:00 pm - Drive back to Guest House
6:00-7:00 pm - Relax
7:00-9:00 pm - Dinner at Guest House, followed by devotion and debriefing meeting.

On Sunday, March 25, 2012, we'll attend a church service at Maisha and then go back to the guest house for lunch at 12:30 and then head to the Kisumu airport at 2:00 pm to fly to Nairobi for our 11:35 pm departure for the United States.  We'll arrive back in Oklahoma City approximately 7:15 pm on Monday, March 26.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 20, 2012, 08:12:58 PM
They have officially extended my contract through Tuesday, May 8, 2012.  They reiterated today that they are doing everything they can to get me on permanent by the end of April.

EDIT:  They also said they can extend the contract into June if needed, but they don't forsee that being necessary.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 21, 2012, 07:58:51 PM
The req order for my position has officially opened as of 2:00 pm this afternoon.  I applied within 10 minutes of the email.  I should have an interview in pretty short order, probably within a couple of weeks and then a decision will be made within a week of that.  The position will most likely start Monday, April 30 or May 7, 2012 after the freeze is lifted on Monday, April 23, 2012 to give them time to move the HR process along.  I very easily could have a definitive answer before I leave for Kenya, which would be very nice.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 22, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
I am testing out my Air Conditioner for the next 24 hours.  Tomorrow is supposed to get up in the lower 70s, so, to me, that's a good temperature to test it at.  I'll turn it off tomorrow night or Thursday morning as a cold front is supposed to come through.  I generally start using it on a regular basis in mid to late March.  I won't have it on when it's supposed to drop below 34 degrees at night or with highs under 65.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 22, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
Please don't ever listen to advice your family gives you. We've seen this script before.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 22, 2012, 07:41:40 AM
Please don't ever listen to advice your family gives you. We've seen this script before.

Truer words have never been spoken.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on February 22, 2012, 08:51:05 AM
Please don't ever listen to advice your family gives you. We've seen this script before.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Did I miss some new advice?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 22, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
Please don't ever listen to advice your family gives you. We've seen this script before.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Did I miss some new advice?

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If I got the job at AT&T, I would come back from Kenya a day early (there are provisions to do this.)

However, my father, mother, and brother gave me some advice.  They said I would be starting over at AT&T and it could end up like Sprint did, which isn't well.  They said I'd be better off sticking with Dell and focusing all my attention there and continuing to improve on the technical questions and also improving in my day to day work, as well.

Basically, his family is telling him to reject a job offer that he can later cancel on if he gets full time with Dell and to simply 'trust' Dell will hire him full time. We all, of course, have told him to take whatever job is offered, and if Dell comes through, he still has 2 weeks to cancel AT&T.

We have seen this episode before. BuskOK will ultimately follow the advice of his family, turn down a job offer from AT&T and subsequently get let go by Dell. Come May, he will be unemployed and will either force his mother to work more to support him or have to move back in with his parents.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on February 22, 2012, 09:29:51 AM
How can it possibly be bad to accept a job offer if you can get out of it later? That's just free unemployment insurance...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 22, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
Eh, if I remember correctly, didn't his parents also tell him that it was a smart move to leave the gas company for that insurance one.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 22, 2012, 09:33:27 AM
Please don't ever listen to advice your family gives you. We've seen this script before.

Too late


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 22, 2012, 09:38:14 AM
Eh, if I remember correctly, didn't his parents also tell him that it was a smart move to leave the gas company for that insurance one.

Yep. The infamous "leap of faith" argument. He fell for that when he left the gas company for the scam Australian company that we all knew was a scam except for BushOK and his family.

How can it possibly be bad to accept a job offer if you can get out of it later? That's just free unemployment insurance...

That's what I told him. There's no harm in accepting it if he can cancel later if Dell hires him. It will be a job if Dell doesn't come through. It's like he would rather be unemployed than to work for AT&T.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 22, 2012, 10:12:08 AM
Eh, if I remember correctly, didn't his parents also tell him that it was a smart move to leave the gas company for that insurance one.

Yep. The infamous "leap of faith" argument. He fell for that when he left the gas company for the scam Australian company that we all knew was a scam except for BushOK and his family.

How can it possibly be bad to accept a job offer if you can get out of it later? That's just free unemployment insurance...

That's what I told him. There's no harm in accepting it if he can cancel later if Dell hires him. It will be a job if Dell doesn't come through. It's like he would rather be unemployed than to work for AT&T.

It's too late, Dukey.  Or haven't you been on FB this morning


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 22, 2012, 10:14:49 AM
I just saw. I think we all know where this will end up. His poor, poor mother.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 22, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
Several new developments have come to light. First, the req order was posted yesterday just after noon, which I applied to the position within 10 minutes of receiving that email.  Second, I wake up this morning and check my work email from home telling me he wants to move very, very rapidly to get me on before the movement freeze.  That means, I could be on permanent by Monday, March 5, which is a week and a half away!!!!  In fact, the chances appear to be growing astronomically that I will be on permanent either right before the freeze or right after the freeze.  I feel very comfortable in withdrawing from AT&T consideration because I have all but been promised a position at Dell.  I have been studying like crazy on the technical questions as well as boning up on some Mac knowledge, which are bonus questions in the interview.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on February 22, 2012, 10:40:06 AM
If this does work out for you, then excellent. Just don't quite see why anyone would rig the game against themselves (i.e. decrease their chances of employment voluntarily).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 22, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
If this does work out for you, then excellent. Just don't quite see why anyone would rig the game against themselves (i.e. decrease their chances of employment voluntarily).

I'm confident it will.  I Know it's not the most conventional move, and if I had any less of a certainty, I would have definitely gone this morning.

A weight-loss update:  As of this morning, I have lost 22 pounds, down to 263.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 22, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
Oh so this might worth reading again it appears.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 22, 2012, 11:38:47 AM

Yeah, don't give up on this season just yet.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 22, 2012, 01:35:19 PM
Wow, this might get real good soon.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 22, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
It is almost a given it will. I'll be shocked if it works out as smoothly as BushOK explains.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on February 22, 2012, 01:58:58 PM
I'm confident it will.  I Know it's not the most conventional move, and if I had any less of a certainty, I would have definitely gone this morning.

So, what did you save by not going?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on February 22, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
I'm confident it will.  I Know it's not the most conventional move, and if I had any less of a certainty, I would have definitely gone this morning.

So, what did you save by not going?

That's what I still don't understand.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 22, 2012, 06:40:47 PM
This is maddening yet so entertaining at the same time. I keep giving advice knowing he won't follow it. It's almost the definition of insanity!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 22, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
Things are beginning to move at warp speed.  The req order has already closed, just 24 hours after it opened, and I will have an interview by early next week most likely, possibly this Friday.  I should have a definitive answer by the end of next week.  Everyone around here who is in some kind of authority is saying positive things about my chances because this position requires a secret clearance, which I have, and I'm already trained on the account, so I don't need to be trained.  There are 10 people interviewing for 2 positions, officially.  Plus, as I have already mentioned, I have been studying like crazy on those A+ questions which comprises the interview.  I have also been trying to find Mac info because while those aren't required, they are definitely bonus and can only help.  I feel very confident about my chances.

What did I gain from not going this morning?  I am an impulsive thinker.  If I had received a position from AT&T, knowing who I am, I probably wouldn't have given Dell enough time to do what they needed to do and likely would have put in my 2 weeks too soon and probably missed out on so many blessings.  I'm comfortable with my decision not to go this morning.  Now, I can focus squarely on Dell and preparing for my interview and trying to hit a home run with it.  Even if they tell me no, I will still have about 6 weeks after I get back from Kenya to get another job lined up without having to really panic.  I came to the conclusion that my decision on AT&T would have had to be made prematurely.  I would have had to put in my 2 weeks at Dell next Thursday, March 1 so I can leave before I go to Kenya.  I knew that wouldn't be enough time for Dell to do much of anything, and I did not know about this warp speed last night.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 22, 2012, 07:31:47 PM
This is a masterful bit of plotting by the writers. We all thought that the Kenya episodes would be a ratings gimmick, but instead the impending trip been used to force a decision that otherwise wouldn't make any sense and would break the willing suspension of disbelief. They've managed to weave the season's plot threads together very skillfully and now we'll see it all to come to a head at once in the final third of the season. Really well done.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 23, 2012, 01:19:01 AM
This is a masterful bit of plotting by the writers. We all thought that the Kenya episodes would be a ratings gimmick, but instead the impending trip been used to force a decision that otherwise wouldn't make any sense and would break the willing suspension of disbelief. They've managed to weave the season's plot threads together very skillfully and now we'll see it all to come to a head at once in the final third of the season. Really well done.

Sorry, Lief, the writers are creating completely different scripts and plots. Scripts and plots that are actually good for the main character.  This season will not have the same turn as the previous seasons have had.  In fact, I'm pretty sure the writers are drumming up another major development possibly in the next few hours from right now, and definitely within the next few days.  The setting will have an abrupt shift for a few episodes from the working, suburban life of Oklahoma City to the slums of Kisumu, Kenya with brief cutaways to Chicago O'Hare, Amsterdam, Nairobi, and Brussels airports.

Oh, and by the way, the writers have no plans to close this season down anytime soon. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 23, 2012, 01:54:56 AM
whoa, whoa, whoa... spoiler warning???


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 23, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
New developments...  The interview has been scheduled for tomorrow, that is Friday, February 24, 2012 at 13:00.  I should have a definitive answer sometime next week and could start either Monday, March 5 or Monday, March 12.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 23, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
There are 10 people interviewing for 2 positions, officially. 

K, this is troublesome.  You only have a 20% chance of getting a full time job and you passed up an interview for a full time job.

Is this correct?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 23, 2012, 10:46:18 AM
Oh gurl, I can't wait until next weeks episode now!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 23, 2012, 01:44:24 PM
whoa, whoa, whoa... spoiler warning???

Most certainly. We all know the story would likely end if he gets a job, so I think we can fill in the blanks as to his intention with that comment.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 23, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
There are 10 people interviewing for 2 positions, officially. 

K, this is troublesome.  You only have a 20% chance of getting a full time job and you passed up an interview for a full time job.

Is this correct?

Maybe, however, before we even get to the interview itself, the position requires a secret clearance.  I've got a secret clearance already and I already possess knowledge of the account having worked on it for 9 months, so I know the account.  I've rehearsed these technical questions over and over and over as well as getting some Mac knowledge as well.  I should have no trouble getting this position.  Plus, my manager has repeatedly said he is wanting to get myself and another contracter on permanent instead of having to hire outsiders.  He has to be fair to the other applicants and give them an interview as well, but from he keeps saying as well as others with direct knowledge of the situation is that he wants me.  I just have to hit a home run with this interview.  My goal is not to hit a home run, but hit a grand slam, and almost make him want to ask when can I start tomorrow.  I'm not arrogant going into this interview, but I am very confident.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 23, 2012, 10:56:07 PM
I'm home from a wonderful day of work.  Tonight, I am just going to relax, read my Bible, study a little bit, and then lay down about 1:00 so I can get a good night's sleep.  I am going to try to be at work early tomorrow, maybe around 11:00, to do some last minute studying.  The interview, again, is at 1:00, and I should be out by 1:30.  I should be able to update the forum later in the evening as the calls die down with how I feel I did.  While I likely won't know anything until early to mid week, there is an outside chance I could know tomorrow, especially if I can hit a grand slam.  I am very confident going into this interview in my knowledge.  I feel there is no reason I shouldn't be able to get 10/10 on the technical portion of the interview and plus get at least 3 out of the 5 Mac questions which are all bonus questions.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 24, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
Good Morning! There are 10 questions on today's technical interview.  This morning about 1:30 as I was laying in bed and again this morning when I woke up, I was able to rattle off 30 possible questions and their answers without any hesitation.  I said there were 5 bonus MAC questions.  As of right now, I should be able to answer at least 4 of them.  Surely, out of those 30, 10 should be a piece of cake.  My job today is to make him want to say "when can you start?" I don't know if he will or if he can do that, but my job is to make him want to say that.  I am 3 1/2 hours from my interview.  I'm very confident and sure of myself.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 24, 2012, 10:39:51 AM
Here we go! Best of luck to you, BushOK!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 24, 2012, 10:44:49 AM
Thanks, Duke!! I should be able to let you know later this evening how things went once the call volume starts slowing down.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 24, 2012, 04:38:36 PM
The interview is over and I did awesome!! One of the requirements for the position is that one possess or be able to obtain a secret security clearance. One of my first phrases out of my mouth was "I have a secret security clearance in my possession". Their eyes got real wide and I saw a big grin on their faces! Of the 10 questions (5 Windows, 5 Mac), I got 4.5-5 Windows questions correct, and 4 ...Mac questions correct). Last interview, I only got 2 of 10 correct. This interview 8.5-9 out of 10, depending on how they score one of them. I should have an answer by Wednesday, maybe Thursday, and I could start anytime after that. I have been told over and over by many different sources very close to me and the situation to not worry, that I have this thing in the bag, they just have to extend the courtesy to the rest of the applicants not to let the cat out of the bag. Now, I'm off the remainder of the day as one of my coworkers and I are swapping shifts so he can go to Tulsa tomorrow. I am working 1:30-7:00 tomorrow.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 24, 2012, 10:04:27 PM
I'm getting more and more confident about the results every time I think about the interview.  I did great on the interview and did so much better than what I did the first time around.  Like I said, I got at least 8-9 questions of the 10 correct.  4.0-5.0 out of 5 of the Windows (depending on how they score it) and 4 of 5 of the Mac questions, which is so much better than getting 2 out of 10 Windows questions and 0 out of 5 Mac questions the last time around.  I started off the interview on the right foot, I looked them in the eye and I was asked to introduce myself to the other interviewer and I said something along the lines of "I've worked in call centers/technical support for several years, at ONG, at Sprint, Convergys.  I have a 4-year Bachelor of Science in E-Commerce from Northwestern Oklahoma State University and I have a secret security clearance in my possession." I made sure to use a little force in my voice when I mentioned the secret clearance, since that is a requirement for the position.  Their eyes got wide and their grin got big, so I knew I struck a chord with them and that just set the tone for the rest of the interview.  I answered each question with confidence and without hesitation.  Even one of the questions I got wrong, I gave a confident answer and mentioned the correct answer even though I landed on somewhat of a correct answer.  The question was how do you access Advanced Startup options in Windows.  The correct answer is F8, and I mentioned that in the answer explanation, but I settled on the Esc key which is correct in DOS systems.  They may look at that as totally wrong, half right, or all right, I just don't know.  There was only one answer that I hesitated on, but only for 3 seconds and then I was able to give the correct answer.  I know the answers were correct because I verified my answers with my team lead after the interview.

I won't know until Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, but my contract managers and Dell themselves have been talking me up a lot and they are doing everything they can to get me on permanent.  I should start either on March 5 or 12, but Dell can be unpredictable at times, so it is possible I could start in the middle of the week.  The freeze goes into effect on March 12, so definitely on or before that date.

Talent Acquisitions will notify me via email about the decision one way or the other.  I am VERY confident about this.  Right now, it is in God's hands, there is nothing I can do further about it.  If He wants me to have this job, He will give it to me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 25, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
I just started making a list of what I need to take with me to Africa.  I'm going to do the vast majority of my packing next Saturday except for the toiletries and medicine.  I will set aside the clothes I'm going to take and pack them away.  After today, I've only got two more Saturday's until I leave.

I'm packing early because with everything going on at work, I could very easily procrastinate, which will force me to cram and probably forget things that I need.  I don't want to run that risk, even though there is a Walmart-style store in Kisumu.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 26, 2012, 09:22:54 AM
The way it is looking right now, I should get the job offer in my email either Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning. Every sign is pointing to a job offer coming in my inbox complete with my pay and start date.  The second half of this week I could be very busy with HR making the transition from Non Dell Badge to Dell Badge.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on February 26, 2012, 09:28:10 AM
whoa, whoa, whoa... spoiler warning???
It's foreshadowing. Very common literary technique.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 26, 2012, 09:37:52 PM
Its Sunday evening, and the new work night will begin in 30 minutes at 9:00.  I won't hear anything tomorrow most likely, but i may get more vibes.  I could hear definitely as early as Tuesday, possibly Wednesday.  Even though, I won't hear the definitive answer tomorrow, I'm hoping to get an even better indication of how things went.  I'm 95% positive I did well enough to get the job, but I can't be 100% until I actually receive the job offer in my email.  The next couple of days could be pins and needles for me.  However, even if this doesn't go through, all hope is not lost.  After the freeze lifts on April 23, I still have about 4 or 5 more positions that I applied to that have yet to interview.  My contract has through May 8.  If I don't get the job this week, then after I get back from Kenya, I'll get started looking again and still have about 5-6 weeks to look before the contract expires.  I feel comfortable with forgoing AT&T as I think it was somewhat premature, especially since I would have had to come back from Kenya a day early which while possible may have been a lot more expensive.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 27, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
I love cliffhangers.  The writers are good this season


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 10:57:30 AM
Every time I think back on Friday's interview, I grow more and more confident.  Not only the questions themselves, but I answered the questions forcefully and without hesitation. The longest hesitation I had was about 4-5 seconds and then I gave the correct answer. Starting off the interview with my clearance status really helped I believe, plus I have 9 months knowledge of the account, so they won't have to train someone new. Plus, my contract managers have been talking me up real high and have been telling everybody who will listen and who has the power to do anything to get me on permanent.  I asked the Lord early this morning to remove any ounce of lingering doubt. I'm going to try to glean any vibes I can today while I am at work and see if i can get any clearer indication on how things went.  I should have an answer within the next 24-48 hours.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 27, 2012, 11:51:51 AM
I have a feeling the writers are setting up the main character for a massive fall.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 27, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Yeah, the writers are laying on the ironic foreshadowing a little too thick here. It's pretty clear he's not going to get the job at this point.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 27, 2012, 02:10:11 PM
Evidence by his tendency to repeat things over and over again before something fails, I would say Lief is right. (see ON Company, fiancees, etc). Prior to both those failures, the main character would insist on repeating why he was confident of his success and read into people's actions surrounding the situation way too often. In this episode, the same thing is happening, while, at the same time, the main character is making the audience keenly aware that things will not end once he is not offered the job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on February 27, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Anybody else notice that the author always invokes God before a failure? Doesn't matter whether it's a job, a relationship, whatever. The moment you see the word God, you know something bad is going to happen. Clearly, the writer is making a subtle but strong statement about religion in 21st Century America.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 27, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
I think the groundwork was laid as early as last week when he failed to interview with AT&T, citing his family and God advised him not to do it, harkening back to the ON Company debunkle when the same two people told him to take the risk. There, the main character also repeated self assuring facts and "evidence" that convinced him he had done the right thing, most of which didn't exist. It remains to be seen whether the big eyes, grins and such are simply a figment of his imagination or whether they actually existed.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 27, 2012, 03:09:23 PM
I'm debating taking tomorrow off just in anticipation!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
I am even more encouraged now.  My supervisor still has 2 or 3 more interviews tomorrow, so he wasn't able to drop any kind of real hint.  However, I did get a nugget.  He was sorting through the first seven interviews he had conducted and I saw on one of the earlier interviews he was going through the hiring process guide on his system.  I was either the first or second interview on Friday.  He put the later interview sheets in the shredder.  So, I'm very hopeful, and even more encouraged that I will have a job offer in my email either tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday morning.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 27, 2012, 07:48:41 PM
Well, that's a sign of a horrible boss. They should never do something like shred paperwork, ESPECIALLY anything that has to do with people getting a job in front of a worker, especially if they are a temp.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 07:49:23 PM
to be honest, I don't know what he shredded, I can only speculate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 27, 2012, 07:59:25 PM
to be honest, I don't know what he shredded, I can only speculate.

 Maybe we shouldn't get too excited on speculation yet.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 08:02:42 PM
Maybe so, Andrew, but I'm just trying to find anything I can to hang my hat on.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 27, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
I doubt they would shred interview papers before they had all been conducted, and if they were dead set on giving you the job, I don't think they would continue to interview people. They probably haven't made the final decision, but I am sure you are in the running considering your time there. It is cheaper to keep someone on than to hire a new worker. But if your only advantage is a security clearance, I would be worried. Frankly, running a background check isn't too difficult. It isn't like you're working for the FBI where its a 2 month process.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 27, 2012, 08:15:47 PM
Maybe you should have hung your hat on that AT&T job...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 08:30:42 PM
I doubt they would shred interview papers before they had all been conducted, and if they were dead set on giving you the job, I don't think they would continue to interview people. They probably haven't made the final decision, but I am sure you are in the running considering your time there. It is cheaper to keep someone on than to hire a new worker. But if your only advantage is a security clearance, I would be worried. Frankly, running a background check isn't too difficult. It isn't like you're working for the FBI where its a 2 month process.

The reason they are still interviewing is there are 2 positions open, so he probably hasn't decided on one or both of them.

It's not just the secret clearance and the tenure, but I answered each question with confidence and without hesitation.  I only hesitated on one question for about 2-3 seconds and then spoke with confidence.  Plus, I got at least 8 of 10, if not 9 of 10 correct.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 27, 2012, 09:03:34 PM
You could be right. I do hope it works out for you either way, but I don't want you to get your hopes up so much with all this speculation. In past episodes, we have seen where speculation and taking leaps of faith has gotten you.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 09:07:46 PM
You could be right. I do hope it works out for you either way, but I don't want you to get your hopes up so much with all this speculation. In past episodes, we have seen where speculation and taking leaps of faith has gotten you.

I feel very confident about it.  I'm not trying to be arrogant in my thought process, but I am very confident and I have been that way for the past 80 hours since the interview has been over.

Plus, I know that even in the off chance this doesn't work out, it's still not the end of the line for Dell.  I've got 5 other positions that I've applied for waiting.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 27, 2012, 11:49:21 PM
It is very possible, based on what happened today, that I could have a job offer in my email inbox within mere hours, definitely within 18-36 hours.  Hopefully, tomorrow evening, I can report to you that I will be beginning my career on such and such date.

Oh, and the writers have already agreed not to end the season if a job offer is extended.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 28, 2012, 12:52:17 AM
Why would they send you a job offer in the middle of the night based on assumptions you yourself made? Are you just psyching yourself out tonight in preparation?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 28, 2012, 07:45:26 AM
Yeah, and I forgot to ask, when you went on this "interview", did you remind them of your upcoming trip?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 28, 2012, 09:05:56 AM
Why would they send you a job offer in the middle of the night based on assumptions you yourself made? Are you just psyching yourself out tonight in preparation?

They won't give me an offer in the middle of the night, but they would give it to me during HR business hours (8-5), but the first time I could report back to you would be in the evening.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 28, 2012, 10:45:40 AM
Why wouldn't they call you in to personally tell you yes or no.......an email?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 28, 2012, 10:49:28 AM
Why wouldn't they call you in to personally tell you yes or no.......an email?

He submits the information to HR and Talent Acquisitions is the one who emails the job offer.  My manager can, and probably will, tell me in person as well, but the official job offer document will have to be returned before the transition can officially begin, anyway, so why not do it very first thing and get it out of the way?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 28, 2012, 11:22:24 AM
Because it's things that humans do.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 28, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
What're the odds he was offered a job today?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 28, 2012, 08:13:31 PM
No news today.  He still has two more interviews to take care of, but I should know something tomorrow or Thursday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 29, 2012, 12:16:16 AM
I had a pretty good day at work.  I didn't hear any news today, but I did speak with my manager and he has two more interviews and will finish those up tomorrow.  He couldn't go further than that to be fair to the other two candidates.  He will be making his decision either tomorrow afternoon or Thursday.  All the signs I'm seeing are positive and I am still very confident in my interview last Friday and because of that, I am very positive in my chances.  The biggest sign I saw was yesterday, which I've already mentioned when he was sorting through the first 7 interviews.  I feel very good about this and I will probably have a hard time sleeping tonight, just because I want to get off these pins and needles, but the last remaining traces of doubt are starting to fade into the sunset.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 29, 2012, 01:12:47 AM
Take a melatonin and you'll sleep like a baby.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 29, 2012, 10:06:06 AM
I was able to sleep pretty well for 8 hours this morning, so I feel rested. Again, my supervisor has two final interviews to do, and he told me last night he will do them today and then he should make a decision either this afternoon or tomorrow.  As of right now, my doubts have been nearly erased.  I still feel very confident.  All the signs that I have been seeing this week are all positive.  I'm seeing no negative signs right now.  Even if he doesn't make a decision today, he may be able to drop a hint after the interviews are complete.  They should be complete by 11:30 or 1:30, depending on what times they were scheduled for.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 29, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
This is great. The writers have set up such a cliffhanger that I literally wet myself every time I see BushOK has replied to this thread. I'm sure The Decision will be drawn out for the rest of the week, so I packed some extra underwear!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on February 29, 2012, 03:12:08 PM
Smart move, because he is probably going to get an answer today, if not today than definitely tomorrow. If not tomorrow, it will be for sure on Friday. If it doesn't come in on Friday, he should hear something no later than Sunday morning, but he won't be able to check it until Monday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on February 29, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Bushie has the job according to Facebook! Congratulations! Was sceptical but am very happy for you!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 29, 2012, 06:24:05 PM
Yes, my friends, Franzl is correct! I do have the job. I'm not starting until Monday, May 7, 2012, because the freeze is being moved up.  I don't know the rate of pay just yet, but I will find that out in April after the freeze lifts.  While I have this job as a cushion, there is also room to get an even better job within Dell in April after the freeze does lift.  Just because I have this job on May 7 doesn't mean I can't go higher.  I just can't lose this job unless I have a better job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on February 29, 2012, 06:28:11 PM
Congrats, Bushie!!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 29, 2012, 06:43:15 PM
Thanks, jmf.  Now, I can focus on my ministry in Kenya without having to worry about a job back home.  This is a major blessing and gets me off the pins and needles and back into a softer chair.  By starting on May 7, I will be able to start using my benefits by June 1, if not slightly before whenever I get the insurance cards.  Now, the date could change a little bit based on the needs of the business, but the job is guaranteed, but most likely will stay on May 7.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 29, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
Wow!!! What a twist. I would've never expected this! It goes to show how creative the writers have become! I'm so happy for you, BushOK!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 29, 2012, 07:12:51 PM
Thanks, Duke!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on February 29, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
This would have made for a brilliant Intrade contract. "BushOklahoma to be offered permanent job on or before March 31, 2012".

Wonder what it would have been trading at the last few days :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 29, 2012, 08:20:17 PM
what's more with this revelation that I do have this job. I've already said I can still move up and get a better job before this one starts, and my manager is going to personally recommend me to other managers around this building, from the Boeing and Xcel Energy accounts to the ADT account to the US Army.  He wants me to stay with him, but more than that, he wants me to succeed and move up as fast as I can.  Once the job starts, I'm settled in for one calendar year before I can apply elsewhere, but before that, I can still apply and get on a little quicker.  It's nice to know that my manager, the man I'm going to work for, is more concerned about my career getting started on the right foot than he is about the accounts for which he is the manager.  I have got an awesome manager.  He is very well liked and very well respected within the Company, so his recommendation will mean a bunch to me.  He is going to do everything he can to get me up on a higher rung on the ladder, but if he can't, then I've got a fallback job with him.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 01, 2012, 01:04:41 AM
Now that I have a job, and now that it is March 1 in Oklahoma, it is time to focus my attention on my trip to Africa in just 15 days.  I can focus on the preparation for this trip, and the ministry within the trip with pure enjoyment and an attitude of servitude without having to worry about a job back home.  I am blessed.  This month of March will be all about Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 01, 2012, 01:51:46 AM
I have a feeling Kenya will play a big role this season. Perhaps job troubled are a thing of past seasons.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 01, 2012, 08:52:05 AM
Here is a weight loss update.  As of this morning, i have now lost 23.6 pounds, down to a weight of 261.4.  That is, of course, since Monday, November 14, 2011.  I found I just don't eat as much during the work week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 01, 2012, 06:36:29 PM
Another job update:  My manager is not wasting any time in making good on his promise in personally referring me to other managers.  Today, he talked with the manager of a big and very important account in the building and referred my name to her to pass on to her hiring manager.  I still have this job to fall back on, but it's beginning to look more and more likely I won't have to fall back on it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 01, 2012, 06:53:34 PM
Don't get too greedy, Bushie. You shouldn't be talking about "falling back" on the job you were celebrating just a little while ago.

Is it absolutely sure you have this job? You have a signed contract?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 01, 2012, 07:09:44 PM
Don't get too greedy, Bushie. You shouldn't be talking about "falling back" on the job you were celebrating just a little while ago.

Is it absolutely sure you have this job? You have a signed contract?

I'm not trying to be greedy.  It is guaranteed, I have signed a contract with the provision that if something better within Dell comes along then I can take it.

I'm not dissing this job at all and I'm not talking "fallback" in a derogatory manner, it's pretty darn good itself, but I can still get an even better job.

I'm celebrating the fact that I will be employed at Dell beyond May 8, regardless of my position.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on March 02, 2012, 07:18:39 PM
Something is fishy. Managers try to keep employees they value, not send them off to other departments.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 02, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
Yesterday, I told my manager had referred me to another manager.  Earlier this afternoon, I get an email that it is for a Computer Operator 2 position with Dell working with the Federal Government.  I have an interview Monday at 4:00 pm.  I've already been sent the Background/Drug Screen form, the Benefits information, and the Conflict of Interest form.  The pay for this position is a lot higher that what I got hired for earlier this week.  It pays just a tick shy of $35,000.  It is not entry level by any means.  With those forms I received earlier, my suspiscion is high that they are really serious about this.

The way it transpired again is my manager reached out to a fellow manager who referred me to her hiring manager who contacted Talent Acquisitions to schedule an interview.  This all happened within 25 hours.  Apparently, they are very serious about me as a candidate if they proceeded to give me the Background/Drug Screen form and the Conflict of Interest form.  From what I've seen in past job interviews the former happens only when they've either made a preliminary decision or are in the process of making a preliminary decision.

I understand it would seem fishy from the outside, Memphis, however, I can assure you this is the way it has transpired.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 02, 2012, 08:05:19 PM
It seems very fishy. But if you have a signed contract, then there's no harm in looking further. I just wouldn't do anything to risk losing what you already have.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 02, 2012, 08:12:29 PM
It seems very fishy. But if you have a signed contract, then there's no harm in looking further. I just wouldn't do anything to risk losing what you already have.

The way I feel, if my manager, the one who hired me, initiates it then I'm fine.  I wouldn't be looking elsewhere on my own accord.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 02, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
One of my team leads just told me that the background/consent form and the conflict of interest were routine for federal jobs, but with the benefits overview in there, that spices things up a bit.  I'm going to try to keep a level head throughout the weekend going into the interview on Monday.  I'll be too focused on Kenya preparation this weekend anyway.

Tomorrow, I will be attending a Pancake Benefit Breakfast for Kenya from 7:00-10:00 and then will be packing the vast majority of my personal items starting at 11:00.  I have to pack tomorrow, because I have family coming into town next weekend and since I work in the evenings from 12-9, I don't have time of an evening to pack.  Sunday evening, I have a "Packing Party" with the team to pack our supplies that we are going to take with us.  The day before I leave on Thursday, March 15, 2012, I will be working 10-7 instead of 12-9 so I can have the final two hours to tie up loose ends and pack my toiletries and get my carry ons ready to go.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 03, 2012, 12:37:05 AM
I just sent in my background check/drug screen form and conflict of interest form about 90 minutes ago.  I feel pretty good about this opportunity as I am fresh off two interviews in the past four weeks.  I shouldn't have too much trouble getting it.  Even if I don't though, I've got a very good job in its own right to take and run.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 04, 2012, 02:57:33 AM
I am mostly packed now with my personal belongings.  Later this evening, I am going to pack my supplies at the packing party.  Throughout this coming week, after I get past tomorrow's interview and get past Super Tuesday, I will start making arrangements to make sure my bills are paid during the 10 days I will be gone, and even the rest of the month after I get back home.

On Monday, March 12, 2012, I will get my medication ready to take with me and make sure I have enough of each medication to last me for 10 days and still have enough to last me for quite a while after I get home in case I lose any of the medicine.  I will make sure I have them in the original bottles and such.

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012, I will make arrangements with my parents and grandmother to take care of my cat and oversee my house while I'm gone.  I will also schedule the mail to be stopped while I'm gone.

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012, I am taking off work at 6:00 pm to attend a commissioning service for the 25 of us who will be going to Kenya.

On Thursday, March 15, 2012, I am working 10:00-7:00 and my mother will meet me at my house at 7:30 to finalize everything I need.  I can do it myself, but she helps keep me from going crazy and keeps a level head so I can focus on what I need to do.

On Friday, March 16, 2012, I am picking my youth minister up, who is also going to Kenya, from his house by 9:30 am and then my dad will be at my house to pick us up by 11:00.  We'll be to the OKC Airport by 11:45.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 04, 2012, 03:05:35 AM
Deja vu?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 04, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
Why wouldn't they call you in to personally tell you yes or no.......an email?
I got my internship offer in the mail.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 05, 2012, 03:34:47 AM
Your mom calms you when you're packing? God, my mother drives me absolutely insane when she tries to involve herself in anything I do.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 05, 2012, 03:59:40 AM
Your mom calms you when you're packing? God, my mother drives me absolutely insane when she tries to involve herself in anything I do.
Pretty much. Of course than there is passive-agressive dad, but that's not as bad.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 05, 2012, 10:46:56 AM
The interview has been rescheduled for tomorrow at 2:00 pm because the manager is ill today.  I won't be getting much work in tomorrow because the interview will take 60-75 minutes and I'm taking off at 5:00 pm so I can come home and watch Super Tuesday.

The packing party went well, I've got a 50 lb suitcase in my living room full of bed sheets and other supplies.

As of this morning, I have now lost 24 lbs, down to a weight of 261.  I'm hoping to drop into the 250's before I go to Kenya and looking to lose quite a bit of weight while I'm in Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on March 05, 2012, 01:52:05 PM
I'm looking to lose quite a bit of weight while I'm in Kenya.

Should be easy enough. All you have to do is drink the water :P


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 05, 2012, 01:53:18 PM
If you want to lose more weight, you should help the tapeworm by working out.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 05, 2012, 06:24:04 PM
I'm looking to lose quite a bit of weight while I'm in Kenya.

Should be easy enough. All you have to do is drink the water :P

That, on top of a lot of masonry work will do the trick. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 06, 2012, 01:16:37 AM
I'm not going to have a whole lot of work today.  I will clock in at 12:00, take my first break at 1:30, go to my interview from 1:45-2:00, have the interview from 2:00-3:10, lunch from 3:30-4:30 and then I'm off work at 5:00 to watch the Super Tuesday results.  I didn't put down Super Tuesday as the reason, rather I put down personal business as the reason.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 06, 2012, 07:53:54 AM
I'm not going to have a whole lot of work today.  I will clock in at 12:00, take my first break at 1:30, go to my interview from 1:45-2:00, have the interview from 2:00-3:10, lunch from 3:30-4:30 and then I'm off work at 5:00 to watch the Super Tuesday results.  I didn't put down Super Tuesday as the reason, rather I put down personal business as the reason.

Are you really leaving work early, to watch the Super Tuesday results?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 07, 2012, 01:48:03 AM
I hope your boss doesn't read this site!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 07, 2012, 07:46:33 AM
I hope they do with a comment like that. You're about to take all this time off work to go to Ethopia, or Indonisia.. whever the hell you're going, and you are going to take time off to watch something that can be recoreded? I hope you realize how sad it sounds.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 07, 2012, 10:32:33 AM
I had a really good interview on Tuesday for the Computer Operator 2 position with Dell.  It requires a Secret Security Clearance to even get started.  It doesn't say a candidate must have the ability to obtain, it says the person must possess it before they start.  I was in the interview room for a full hour talking back and forth with the manager and team lead.  I answered every question again forcefully and without hesitation.  The manager wants me to shadow, or listen to calls, with her more seasoned agents for the next 3 days for about 2 hours.  That's a really good sign.  I should have a job offer in my email either today or tomorrow.  The start date on this position would be this coming Monday, March 12, 2012.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 07, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
The start date on this position would be this coming Monday, March 12, 2012.

Ahem.......Kenya?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 07, 2012, 02:24:03 PM
I'm starting to think Bushie might not be coming home to a job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 07, 2012, 06:58:28 PM
The start date on this position would be this coming Monday, March 12, 2012.

Ahem.......Kenya?

The manager and I discussed this and she's fine with it, I'll work extra hard the four days I will be there next week and then work extra hard the four days I will be there the week I get back.  I should have a job offer in my inbox sometime tomorrow.  I spent a lot of time with that account today getting a head start on training since I will be gone.  She has basically told me without telling me I will be hired.  She is using sentences like "when you get up here next week", not "if you get up here next week."  Per protocol she can't tell me before Talent Acq tells me, but she told me in a round about way.  I will go back up and spend a bulk of the day up there again tomorrow and Friday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 07, 2012, 07:03:10 PM
I'm starting to think Bushie might not be coming home to a job.

You're right, I probably won't be coming home to a job.  I'll be coming home to a career.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 07, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
That's deep bro. Line of the season?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 07, 2012, 08:20:47 PM
I already have the call greeting memorized for that account.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on March 07, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
I'm starting to think Bushie might not be coming home to a job.

You're right, I probably won't be coming home to a job.  I'll be coming home to a career.

()


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 08, 2012, 07:15:24 AM
I'm up early this morning so I can monitor the email.  I expect a job offer to come through my inbox this morning and if and when it does, I need to accept it and send it back extremely quickly as they can't do anything further until I do.  My Talent Acquisition is based in Washington, DC, so I'm really operating on Eastern time right now and it's already 7:15 ET and inside of business hours.  The manager pretty much told me without telling me I have a job.  She said she can't jump the gun, but is already talking to me like I'm a part of the team.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 08, 2012, 07:43:41 AM
I'm up early this morning so I can monitor the email.  I expect a job offer to come through my inbox this morning and if and when it does, I need to accept it and send it back extremely quickly as they can't do anything further until I do.  My Talent Acquisition is based in Washington, DC, so I'm really operating on Eastern time right now and it's already 7:15 ET and inside of business hours.  The manager pretty much told me without telling me I have a job.  She said she can't jump the gun, but is already talking to me like I'm a part of the team.

Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 08, 2012, 07:54:02 AM
I'm up early this morning so I can monitor the email.  I expect a job offer to come through my inbox this morning and if and when it does, I need to accept it and send it back extremely quickly as they can't do anything further until I do.  My Talent Acquisition is based in Washington, DC, so I'm really operating on Eastern time right now and it's already 7:15 ET and inside of business hours.  The manager pretty much told me without telling me I have a job.  She said she can't jump the gun, but is already talking to me like I'm a part of the team.

Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...

I will do that. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 08, 2012, 07:54:12 AM
Don't worry, he wont.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 08, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
I'm up early this morning so I can monitor the email.  I expect a job offer to come through my inbox this morning and if and when it does, I need to accept it and send it back extremely quickly as they can't do anything further until I do.  My Talent Acquisition is based in Washington, DC, so I'm really operating on Eastern time right now and it's already 7:15 ET and inside of business hours.  The manager pretty much told me without telling me I have a job.  She said she can't jump the gun, but is already talking to me like I'm a part of the team.

Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...

I will do that. :)

Before accepting the job... ;)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 08, 2012, 09:34:14 AM
HALLELUJAH!! As of 8:10 am Thursday, March 8, 2012, I was told by the talent acquisition lead for Dell Service Federal Government based in Washington, DC that I have been hired and am now waiting on the official job offer letter.  God is awesome!!!!!  Projected start date is this Monday, March 12, 2012.  It could potentially be Thursday, March 15, 2012 depending on how fast they can get the offer letter to me and I can turn it around.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 08, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
Every good gift comes from above.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 08, 2012, 12:18:44 PM

What about the bad things in life?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 08, 2012, 12:26:02 PM

I'm not at liberty to discuss the Mods.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 08, 2012, 01:35:50 PM
Life must be depressing when you believe all your successes comes from a magical man in the sky who you have no control over and all your failures are completely your fault.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 08, 2012, 02:05:08 PM
Life must be depressing when you believe all your successes comes from a magical man in the sky who you have no control over and all your failures are completely your fault.

This is very true. Also, what about all the other people who are looking for work to support their families? Should they be praising because you gained employment?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 08, 2012, 03:57:25 PM
HALLELUJAH!! As of 8:10 am Thursday, March 8, 2012, I was told by the talent acquisition lead for Dell Service Federal Government based in Washington, DC that I have been hired and am now waiting on the official job offer letter.  God is awesome!!!!!  Projected start date is this Monday, March 12, 2012.  It could potentially be Thursday, March 15, 2012 depending on how fast they can get the offer letter to me and I can turn it around.

God had nothing to do with it. If anything, this is the work of the devil.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 08, 2012, 04:19:42 PM
Praise God from who all blessings flow! BushOK is going to Washington!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 08, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
Too many death points?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 08, 2012, 04:50:00 PM

No, it would appear my longevity on this forum is no longer tied to death points, but rather to my ability to suppress the personality of my inner child, which I have pledged to curb.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 08, 2012, 06:27:14 PM
Praise God from who all blessings flow! BushOK is going to Washington!

You misread my post, my talent acquisition contact is in DC, but I am staying right here in the best city in America, Oklahoma City.

Everybody else, except for jmfcst,

Doubt God all you want, but I know whom I have believed and am convinced that He is able to keep that which I've committed unto Him until that day when I go home to meet my Heavenly Father face to face.

jmfcst,

every good gift is indeed from above.  For we know that He works everything out for the good of those that love the Lord and are called according to His purpose.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 08, 2012, 07:12:02 PM
That's too bad. I think it would do you good to get out of Oklahoma, especially if you've lived there all your life. Different states offer different perspectives. It's a wonderful thing.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on March 08, 2012, 08:11:21 PM
That's too bad. I think it would do you good to get out of Oklahoma, especially if you've lived there all your life. Different states offer different perspectives. It's a wonderful thing.

Consider who you're talking about... K? .... I'll wait...

OK, now you see why that thinking is pointless for someone like Bushie?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 08, 2012, 08:34:21 PM
This morning, I, of course, heard that I have a job offer on its way.  I confirmed that with my new manager and she said, "Yes, you will have an official job offer in your email tomorrow morning."  She couldn't tell me before the TA told me.  I will get up early again tomorrow and keep my eyes peeled on the email waiting for the job offer to come through, so I can take a glance of it, print it out, and electronically sign and accept it.

Tomorrow is my official last day as a temporary contractor.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 08, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Didn't you want to move to Arizona before? What happened to that?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 08, 2012, 09:04:28 PM
That's too bad. I think it would do you good to get out of Oklahoma, especially if you've lived there all your life. Different states offer different perspectives. It's a wonderful thing.

This is true. I've lived in Connecticut, Virginia, and now PA. Moving around is a pretty good thing. Hell, it's possible that I could be adding Texas to the list by the summer.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 08, 2012, 09:50:33 PM
Didn't you want to move to Arizona before? What happened to that?

I still do, I didn't say I never wanted to leave Oklahoma City, but at least for now, I consider it one of the best big cities in the country.  Big enough to have things to do, small enough to avoid a lot of the problems the major cities have such as New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.

The only reason I haven't moved to Arizona, yet, is my financial and employment situation has not been conducive.  I tried moving to Dallas in 2008 and stayed down there for 2 months, but it blew up in my face and I had to move home.  I moved without the guarantee of a stable job.  The only job I had at the time was as a car salesman in Irving.  I know better now, being 4 years older, you don't move away without two things, 1) The written guarantee of a stable job and 2) The financial wherewithal incase the employer doesn't provide relocation assistance.  I plan to stay working here for several years, probably 3 or 4 years and then try to transfer out to a different Dell location.  I will do that if and only if the two criteria mentioned above are met.

Also, with the dawning of this brand new career, I have also learned one thing in the past 2 years, DON'T QUIT YOUR DARN JOB for any reason, especially for something that even has the appearance of criminal activity.  Incidentally, I still have those same type "job" offers come across my email every now and again and when they do, I open them, glance through it, laugh hysterically with a "hahahahahhhaa, NO!", and then the email meets my delete key.  I am more alert and know better how to spot scams a mile off.  There will be no ON-Company/Ameriplan debacle this time around.

I am going to do my absolute best to make my new employer, DSFG (Dell Services Federal Government), be the company I retire from in 30-35 years from now.  I am eligible for 401(k) matching immediately, so I am going to immediately start contributing to it, probably about 2% for now so I don't drain my paycheck, but still start building up the retirement account.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 09, 2012, 07:43:30 AM
I am going to do my absolute best to make my new employer, DSFG (Dell Services Federal Government), be the company I retire from in 30-35 years from now. 

Two questions for you.

1. Why did you bother to abbriviate your employer, if you were just going to spell it out?
2. Do you really expect this company to be around for that long? It's got to be a sad life if you work there, and you expect to be doing that job, at the same company the rest of your life.

Hell, if I thought I was going to be doing the sales work I do now for the rest of my life, or working for the same company for the next 20 years, I'd probably put a bullet in my head now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 09, 2012, 10:37:10 AM
Just a few pointers…

Also, with the dawning of this brand new career, I have also learned one thing in the past 2 years, DON'T QUIT YOUR DARN JOB for any reason, especially for something that even has the appearance of criminal activity.

you should never quit a job without having an offer letter in hand from another reputable company, regardless of the state of the economy.

---

I am eligible for 401(k) matching immediately, so I am going to immediately start contributing to it, probably about 2% for now so I don't drain my paycheck, but still start building up the retirement account.

!) Make sure you are AT LEAST contributing at the level to get the full match, cause it’s free money…

2) then, with the rest of the money, do whatever you have to do to pay off any, and all, debt…

3) after your debt is paid off, stay out of debt, completely

4) then live in a way that allows you to put aside AT LEAST 6 months worth of living expenses and make sure it is liquid (not in a 401K).  Emergencies can and do come up, some of which you have experienced over the last couple of years.

5) and whatever else is leftover, save up for the lifestyle you want to live until you get to the point that you can reach that lifestyle while still adhering to points 1 through 4 above.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 09, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
I have received and accepted the job offer at 11:50 am. The start date is Monday, March 12, 2012. I will find out the hours today.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 09, 2012, 04:07:02 PM
I have received and accepted the job offer at 11:50 am. The start date is Monday, March 12, 2012. I will find out the hours today.

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 09, 2012, 04:10:06 PM
I read the letter wrong. The start date is Tuesday, March 13, 2012.  I will be off boarding from my contractor position at 3:30 when I will start a 3 day weekend before I begin my official Dell Career at 8:00 am.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 09, 2012, 04:11:46 PM
I have received and accepted the job offer at 11:50 am. The start date is Monday, March 12, 2012. I will find out the hours today.

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 09, 2012, 05:24:48 PM
I am officially no longer a temporary employee.  I am home to begin a three day weekend preparing for the first day of my Dell Career beginning Tuesday, March 13, 2012 at 0800.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 09, 2012, 05:29:07 PM
I have received and accepted the job offer at 11:50 am. The start date is Monday, March 12, 2012. I will find out the hours today.

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.
kinky!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 10, 2012, 12:03:08 AM
I have received and accepted the job offer at 11:50 am. The start date is Monday, March 12, 2012. I will find out the hours today.

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.
kinky!

Get your mind out of the gutter, please. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 10, 2012, 12:07:56 AM
Having Monday off will give me a great chance to make final arrangements here at home for Kenya.  I need to go by the bank, the post office, the barber, get my bills scheduled to pay while I'm gone, clean out my car, get my medication ready, call my temporary employment liaison out in California to finalize things and then get to bed early to begin my Career.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 10, 2012, 12:55:08 AM
I like how career was capitalized. Well done.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 10, 2012, 05:57:24 AM
I had a weird dream last night that I got infracted for something I said yesterday. I'm almost positive I did say something though.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 10, 2012, 10:44:55 AM
I had a weird dream last night that I got infracted for something I said yesterday. I'm almost positive I did say something though.

Are you sure it was a dream? :P

It goes to show the writers showed favor to the main character in this storyline.  The writers are hard at work preparing the next episode, which will include job reports, Kenya analysis, and whatever else the writers want to add.  There will probably be no specific lady, other than my mother, in any of the near future episodes, though I could be wrong.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 10, 2012, 11:38:41 AM
I had a weird dream last night that I got infracted for something I said yesterday. I'm almost positive I did say something though.

Are you sure it was a dream? :P

It goes to show the writers showed favor to the main character in this storyline.  The writers are hard at work preparing the next episode, which will include job reports, Kenya analysis, and whatever else the writers want to add.  There will probably be no specific lady, other than my mother, in any of the near future episodes, though I could be wrong.

So, did this change networks to CMT or something?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 10, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
I had a weird dream last night that I got infracted for something I said yesterday. I'm almost positive I did say something though.

Are you sure it was a dream? :P

It goes to show the writers showed favor to the main character in this storyline.  The writers are hard at work preparing the next episode, which will include job reports, Kenya analysis, and whatever else the writers want to add.  There will probably be no specific lady, other than my mother, in any of the near future episodes, though I could be wrong.

So, did this change networks to CMT or something?

It may have, you never know!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 10, 2012, 06:46:17 PM
Calling it now: BushOK comes back to the United States with an African bride.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 10, 2012, 06:48:45 PM
Calling it now: BushOK comes back to the United States with an African bride.

Well, my friend from college who went to Haiti as a missionary found himself a Haitian bride!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 10, 2012, 07:14:44 PM
I was thinking about something last night.  When I first applied for the temporary assignment at Dell on Wednesday, March 22, 2011, I was told it would be a 9-month contract-to-hire employment.  I started my temporary assignment on Monday, June 13, 2011 at 8:00 am.  I will begin my Career with Dell and its subsidiary Dell Services Federal Government, Inc. on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 at 8:00 am, EXACTLY 9 months later.  That is no coincedence.  It's not only 9 months to the day, but 9 months to the second.

This Tuesday, I will begin Month 10 of steady work at the same building and Month 1 of my permanent career.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 11, 2012, 04:10:15 PM
It needs no introduction, but this week is a BIG week in my life, probably the biggest I've ever had, and I don't use that lightly.  Two major things will happen in the life of this nearly 30-year-old bachelor from Harrah, Oklahoma.  I will be beginning a new Career with the Federal Government in just under 40 hours.  Also, I will be leaving the United States for the first time in my life going to a place halfway across the world in a completely different environment than my comfort zone in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and her suburbs.  I am very, very excited and in awe of what is going to happen this week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 12, 2012, 05:38:31 AM
I am awake after another rough night's sleep.  I went to bed a little before 9:00 pm, but could not sleep no matter what I tried. Finally, at 11:50 pm, I woke up for about 20-25 minutes and then went back to bed and was able to sleep the rest of the morning until my alarm went off at 4:42.  I got out of bed at 4:49 am.  Why did I get up this early on my day off?  I am practicing my routine for tomorrow morning when I have to get up at 5:00 am or a little before.  Plus, I have a lot to do today to get ready to leave Friday.  This is my last opportunity to do things I need to do that require to be done during business hours.  I work the next three days 8-5, so this is my last best opportunity.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 12, 2012, 10:01:56 AM

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.


Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...

I will do that. :)

Before accepting the job... ;)

So you did NOT get it in writing, correct?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 12, 2012, 10:31:26 AM

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.


Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...

I will do that. :)

Before accepting the job... ;)

So you did NOT get it in writing, correct?

My money is on no.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 12, 2012, 10:42:48 AM

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.


Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...

I will do that. :)

Before accepting the job... ;)

So you did NOT get it in writing, correct?

My money is on no.

You would have lost money, then. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 12, 2012, 08:38:19 PM
I'm about to hit the sack within the next 30 minutes after The Voice.  I'm really looking forward to beginning my career tomorrow morning at 8:00 am!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 12, 2012, 11:06:00 PM

Again, are you absolutely certain that your Kenya thing isn't going to interfere with this?

I am 100% positive. My new manager is perfectly okay with it per her own mouth.


Make sure you get in writing that they're letting you take off for your trip...

I will do that. :)

Before accepting the job... ;)

So you did NOT get it in writing, correct?

My money is on no.

You would have lost money, then. :)
Unexpected twist in the plot.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 13, 2012, 05:57:29 AM
I'm now just about 2 hours from the beginning of my Career with Dell Services Federal Government.  I finally slept a full 7 1/2 hours last night thanks to taking some Tylenol before going to bed.  I crawled in bed at 9:15 pm and woke up at 4:47 am.  I got a nice, warm shower, and read about 15 minutes in my Bible this morning.  I'm watching the news now until 6:45 am and then will head to work.  I will be off work at 5:00 tonight, so I will be able to watch the Mississippi & Alabama primaries.  While I watch the primaries tonight, I've got several other things I need to do to get ready for the trip.  I've got to get my medication ready, get my digital camera ready, get my bills scheduled to pay for the time I will be gone, as well as several other things that I need to do.  Tonight is my last real good night to do things as tomorrow night I will be attending the Kenya Commissioning Service at 7:00 pm and then Thursday night, I will be finishing things up and having dinner with part of the team.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 13, 2012, 07:39:49 PM
I had a really nice day to begin my Career with Dell Services Federal Government.  I think I will really enjoy this account.  I've got two more days of work until I leave for Africa.  The next two days will largely be orientation and then heavy training after I get back.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 14, 2012, 09:06:42 AM
Bro, you should try taking melatonin to sleep. I haven't been able to get rest in months, but once I pop 6mgs of that stuff every night I am out like a light.

So you're a government bureaucrat now??


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 15, 2012, 06:40:26 AM
I've got one more day of work today before I leave for Africa.  Today, I will be getting my CAC card to get into the US Army systems.  I'll have to go to Tinker AFB to do so.  I'll also be maneuvering the systems.

Then, my mother is coming over tonight at 6:00 to help me get things buttoned up.  She helps me from going insane when I'm trying to finish things up.  Plus, I want to spend time with her and Dad tonight since I won't see them for 11 days.  I've gone longer seeing them, of course, but I've never been as far away.  The farthest I've ever been from them was them in Oklahoma City and me in Boston.  This is a lot further than Boston.  I will be going to bed around midnight Friday morning and get up at 6:00 am, pick my youth minister up at 9:00, and my Dad will pick us up from my house at 11:00 so we can be to the airport by 11:30-11:45.  Departure to Chicago is at 2:56 pm tomorrow.  I'll probably post once tonight and one final time tomorrow, and then will not post again until I get home, the evening of Monday, March 26, 2012.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 15, 2012, 06:45:30 AM
Bro, you should try taking melatonin to sleep. I haven't been able to get rest in months, but once I pop 6mgs of that stuff every night I am out like a light.

So you're a government bureaucrat now??

Melatonin is what one of my friends on facebook suggested.  I will try that after I get home from Kenya.

As far as the government bureaucrat thing?  I don't make the rules and I don't control anything in the government, except trying to fix their computers.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on March 15, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
I've got one more day of work today before I leave for Africa.  Today, I will be getting my CAC card to get into the US Army systems.  I'll have to go to Tinker AFB to do so.  I'll also be maneuvering the systems.


Huh, so this is how Skynet will kill us all.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 15, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Sigh. No use in coming to this forum until he's back. :(


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 15, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Sigh. No use in coming to this forum until he's back. :(

He said he was going to post on his FB and I"m sure it will be a blow by blow description......enjoy it there, Dukey.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 15, 2012, 04:06:15 PM
Someone who is FB friends with him please post the highlights here.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 15, 2012, 04:18:47 PM
Someone who is FB friends with him please post the highlights here.

I sometime go to his profile just to see his profile picture: a map of Kenya. One of the best acts in history.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 15, 2012, 06:45:50 PM
My Kenyan Vacation has begun and I am completely packed.  I have said goodbye to my mother for the final time until I return.  My father will pick me up and take me to the airport at 11:00 tomorrow (I don't want to leave my car in airport parking for 11 days).  I will have my laptop with me with access to WiFi.  I probably will only have no more than an hour or two each night.  I will not post on the forum while I'm gone, but I will post on facebook and upload pics to the same as we go along.  I will be away from any kind of internet from 8:00 am tomorrow until at least late evening Sunday in Kenya (mid-afternoon on Sunday in Oklahoma).  Wednesday evening, Kenya time, which is Wednesday afternoon in Oklahoma, I will get online and check the results of the Illinois Primary.  So, its possible I may pop onto the forum for just a brief bit that evening. Not sure, yet.  I won't be able to check the Louisiana results until I get home.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 15, 2012, 07:51:41 PM
I won't be able to check the Louisiana results until I get home.

THANKS, KENYA


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 15, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
To kick off my Kenya Vacation, I thought it would be a good opportunity to watch John Wayne's Hatari situated in an Eastern African Safari!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on March 15, 2012, 10:28:21 PM
Someone who is FB friends with him please post the highlights here.
Am I allowed to? He's had some good ones lately.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 15, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Maybe Inks or Mikado can advise, but isn't posting excerpts from someone's facebook status update a violation of the ToS?  I would strongly encourage anyone to reconsider.  If I post things from my own facebook, fine, but no one needs to post my information for me.  I'm not getting mad at anyone, but trying to save a few death points from getting administered. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 16, 2012, 07:47:16 AM
I am awake to get this Kenya Mission Trip started.  This will likely be my final post until I return in 10 1/2 days.  Like I said, I may or may not pop in Wednesday to check the Illinois results, but I won't get back to full posting until I get home.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 16, 2012, 08:55:43 AM
Maybe Inks or Mikado can advise, but isn't posting excerpts from someone's facebook status update a violation of the ToS?  I would strongly encourage anyone to reconsider.  If I post things from my own facebook, fine, but no one needs to post my information for me.  I'm not getting mad at anyone, but trying to save a few death points from getting administered. :)

For the record, I agree. I don't think posting that your profile picture is a map of Kenya is the same as posting your status updates though. ;)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 16, 2012, 11:34:55 AM
Maybe Inks or Mikado can advise, but isn't posting excerpts from someone's facebook status update a violation of the ToS? 

In answer to your query: If you yourself have posted information in the public domain, it is not a violation of the "invasive of a person's privacy" provision of the TOS for someone to post it here, for you yourself have already made it public.  On the other hand, if the information is only available to your friends on Facebook and not available to the viewing public, then posting of said information would be a violation of the TOS.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on March 16, 2012, 11:43:55 AM
Oooooh, DEATH points?! When did this come about?!

EDIT: Ugh, boring...just another name for infraction points...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 16, 2012, 02:24:30 PM
Maybe Inks or Mikado can advise, but isn't posting excerpts from someone's facebook status update a violation of the ToS?  I would strongly encourage anyone to reconsider.  If I post things from my own facebook, fine, but no one needs to post my information for me.  I'm not getting mad at anyone, but trying to save a few death points from getting administered. :)

Anything non-public shouldn't be posted without permission.  That being said, unless you reported it (since you update this thread fairly often, and are 99.9% likely to have seen it), it probably wouldn't get infracted, since you didn't report it.  For example, BRTD has said he is ok with people posting stuff like PMs and his sayings in hte IRC chat.  So I wouldn't infract people for doing that to him.  (Although if it was something really negative, I'd probably still check with him).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 17, 2012, 03:08:15 AM
Well, his plane has landed in Amsterdam. I'm trying to imagine Bushie there.... :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 17, 2012, 04:26:21 PM
Someone should do running commentary of what they imagine Bushie is doing on each day of his trip.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 17, 2012, 08:15:19 PM
Someone should do running commentary of what they imagine Bushie is doing on each day of his trip.


Oh we'll just summarize his FB without copying it and violating any rule.  Our imagination doesn't come close to being as funny as his reality.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on March 17, 2012, 08:56:58 PM
Well, his plane has landed in Amsterdam. I'm trying to imagine Bushie there.... :)

Presumably doing just about precisely the opposite of what I would be doing. And having lived a summer in Amsterdam, I know where to do it!  :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 19, 2012, 03:15:25 AM
What is Bushie doing now?  Looking for Obama's birth certificate?  Reenacting some scenes from "The Book of Mormon" (the musical)?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on March 19, 2012, 08:28:17 AM
What is Bushie doing now?  Looking for Obama's birth certificate?  Reenacting some scenes from "The Book of Mormon" (the musical)?

More likely, he's praying to Jesus to help him recover from gastro issues. And for some A/C.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 19, 2012, 12:34:28 PM
I expect he's witnessing to a village full of Kenyans and partaking in their customs which would be a hilarious video.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 21, 2012, 04:05:49 AM
Nah, I'm going to imagine that Bushie is looking for Obama's birth certificate.  Or at least meeting up with Joe Republic, as described here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127584.msg3225917#msg3225917


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 21, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
Last we heard he was in the slums of Kenya converting people or some such nonsense......

He's probably got a migrane, the sh**ts, and all kinds of other issues going on......

Ugh.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 21, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Naso should become a missionary in Africa.

Imagine his videos.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 22, 2012, 02:14:56 PM
I was right....Bushie is puking and has the trots.....but he's converting sick people and sick kids!   Amen!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 24, 2012, 04:21:01 PM
The last fb post is one for the M.A.N. Institute of Comedy and the Absurd posts thread.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 26, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
I am home from Kenya! I am very, very tired, but I am very, very humbled.  We have way too much in America it spoils us.  Kenya doesn't have near as much as Oklahoma does.  My diet consisted of beans, chicken, and rice with sweet watermelon, fresh pineapple, and fresh bananas.  Breakfast was the normal bacon and eggs each morning.  I did get sick a couple of times over the week, but the Lord quickly gave me recovery in my health so I could continue serving.  I have become the sponsor of two young children from the Maisha international orphanage.  These children are total orphans with no father, and a deceased mother.  They live with their grandmother right now and don't even own a pair of shoes.  If you hear me refer to my son or my daughter you will know that my son is Phelix and my daughter is Rose.  They are brother and sister.  I can rightfully claim status as their parent as I will be their primary source of financial support.  It doesn't cost me much money, only $35 per child.  I've got a few lifestyle changes to make so I can fit these children in.  I am also going to start saving up to return to Kisumu, Kenya in March, 2013.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 29, 2012, 02:22:03 AM
He's really gone off the deep end...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 05:33:53 AM
He's really gone off the deep end...

It does seem that way, but it is definitely not out of the question.  I don't think anything will happen in the next couple of years, at least, as it takes a lot of preparation of the heart to make the biggest decision that I will likely ever make in my life.  Needless to say, I am still praying and seeking God's Will.  My former pastor's daughter made this decision within the last five years in first sensing a call to foreign missions in South Africa, receiving confirmation of it 6 months later, and then 2 years of preparation.  Now, she is married to an American transplant in South Africa and, as far as I know, they plan to stay in South Africa the rest of their lives and she will just be 20 next February.  I could very easily see myself moving to Kisumu, Kenya and being very happy.  Granted, South Africa is more "westernized" than Kenya, but still, its so far away, and in fact South Africa is even farther away.  Let's be perfectly clear, though, I am not making any decisions one way or the other right now, and I'm going to try not to plan, except to plan to follow my Christ and let Him lead me and guide me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 29, 2012, 01:01:20 PM
I have this awful feeling BushOK is going to quit his job and move to Kenya very soon. We've seen this before when he was going to be "patient" with women and next think you knew he was engaged.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 29, 2012, 01:08:35 PM
I have this awful feeling BushOK is going to quit his job and move to Kenya very soon. We've seen this before when he was going to be "patient" with women and next think you knew he was engaged.

Dukey I'm so sure of it I wouldn't even bet you a drink on it........I'd buy you a drink but not bet on this :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 29, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
I have this awful feeling BushOK is going to quit his job and move to Kenya very soon. We've seen this before when he was going to be "patient" with women and next think you knew he was engaged.

Unfortunately, if he thinks God is telling him to move to Africa, it'll probably really happen sooner rather than later.

The really sad thing is that Bushie really does mean well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 29, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
Needless to say, I am still praying and seeking God's Will. 

I'm confused.  I thought the will of God was simple:

1Tim 4:3 "It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 29, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
I have this awful feeling BushOK is going to quit his job and move to Kenya very soon. We've seen this before when he was going to be "patient" with women and next think you knew he was engaged.

Unfortunately, if he thinks God is telling him to move to Africa, it'll probably really happen sooner rather than later.

The really sad thing is that Bushie really does mean well.

I know he does, but I think he does brash and reckless things and does not really think about the consequences. I admire him for wanting to support these kids, but is his money going to them or lining the pockets of some scammer? Can he afford to support them and live on his own, or will his parents have to chip in? Is he letting these urges of wanting to travel and move now that he's been outside of Oklahoma for the first time cloud his reality?

I've known people to go to these mission trips and go about it full time. They come and go, move around all the time and really don't have a home, although I suppose "god" is their home, but whatever. Then they have kids and move them all around the world and they never really have normal lives, aren't educated properly, and the like.

I do sincerely hope he doesn't make a crazy move because he misses the thrill of a vacation. I don't want to see him throw away his job and forcing his parents to again support one of his frivolous episodes.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 29, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
Oh no. I just read BushOK's Facebook. He is about to make a huge mistake. He's convincing himself that his growing urge to go back to Africa is god doing it and not his own mind. You know, when I wanted him to get out of Oklahoma because I feel it's a cesspool of dumbs and bigots, I never envisioned him taking that advice and wanting to move to Africa of all places.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on March 29, 2012, 05:20:49 PM
Either Africa or Oklahoma, in that case, works.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 05:53:34 PM
Dukey, I'm not doing anything right away, but it will eventually happen.  I still have work to do in Oklahoma for a little while longer, but the way I'm seeing it now, I could be an "American-African" within the next 15-24 months.  It definitely won't happen in 2012, and it very likely won't happen until the latter half of 2013 at the very earliest.  I'm also not going until I have a way to make a living down there lined up without becoming another mouth to feed.  I'm consulting with many different trusted friends and advisors.  I'm talking with missionary friends in China and South Africa.  I'm talking to the mother of the South African missionary.  I'm also consulting with some very trusted family advisors (not my parents, quite yet).  I'm also consulting with my current pastor and his wife as well as my former pastor and his wife (the same couple whose daughter is in S Africa).  I'm also consulting with a former college advisor who is well experienced in mission work.  I've got many different people to consult with before I make any kind of efforts to move.  Rest assured, though, while I feel like I could be on the next flight out, I also have work to do in Oklahoma to prepare me to go down to Africa.  Nothing is going to happen within the next 15 months, I can guarantee that, and that's bare minimum.  God's Will, I believe, is for me to move to Kenya eventually, but not for at least 15-24 months if not a little longer.  Right now, I just have a deep, deep longing to be "home" in Kisumu, Kenya, and I know I will get home eventually.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Insula Dei on March 29, 2012, 05:56:41 PM
Wow,..., didn't see that one coming. I suppose this only confirms there's at least some scripting going on somewhere.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on March 29, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
You actually did go to Kenya?  See any lookers?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 29, 2012, 06:01:15 PM
You actually did go to Kenya?  See any lookers?
I wonder if the tribal women groom their rosebuds... then again- perhaps the term "bush people" gives us that answer!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on March 29, 2012, 06:04:01 PM
You actually did go to Kenya?  See any lookers?
I wonder if the tribal women groom their rosebuds... then again- perhaps the term "bush people" gives us that answer!

You talking clitorectomy, clarence?  Cause I don't swing that way.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 29, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
You actually did go to Kenya?  See any lookers?
I wonder if the tribal women groom their rosebuds... then again- perhaps the term "bush people" gives us that answer!

You talking clitorectomy, clarence?  Cause I don't swing that way.
Of course not- talking about whether or not they trim, shave, or go native


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 06:12:32 PM
Please, fellas, if you want to talk that way about the Kenyan women, take it elsewhere.  I don't want to litter this thread with what they look like where.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 29, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
I apologize


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 29, 2012, 06:19:22 PM
Did you visit the hospital in Nairobi where Obama was really born?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on March 29, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
bushie, im really not trying to be a smartass.  but *slow down*.   you were saying the *exact same things* with your last fiance.  you kept saying 'im going to take it slow.'  'it wont happen until xxxx at the earliest...'   and look what happened.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
bushie, im really not trying to be a smartass.  but *slow down*.   you were saying the *exact same things* with your last fiance.  you kept saying 'im going to take it slow.'  'it wont happen until xxxx at the earliest...'   and look what happened.

I completely understand where you are coming from Ray and that's something I am taking into consideration.  However, when God tells me something that is unmistakeably coming from Him, I cannot ignore it.

To the rest of you on this thread in the past couple pages, it really speaks to my heart that both believers and non-believers (like most of the forum) are being very supportive of this and I really do value all the constructive thoughts I have received.  I have not seen any negative thoughts, just "be absolutely sure" thoughts.  I really appreciate those.  That also confirms to me that my God is behind this because He is causing believers and non-believers alike to coalesce around this idea and get behind me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on March 29, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
The more you guys insist on telling him to "slow down" before he speeds headfirst into the next crash in his ongoing train wreck of a life, the more he picks up speed.  Try reverse psychology instead.  Maybe that will work.

Or... perhaps someone should try and communicate with him posing as this 'God' fellow.  He seems to actually listen to him (though I'm at a loss to know how).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 29, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
WALTER MITTY'S REAL NAME IS RAY?

the plot thickens


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on March 29, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
bushie, im really not trying to be a smartass.  but *slow down*.   you were saying the *exact same things* with your last fiance.  you kept saying 'im going to take it slow.'  'it wont happen until xxxx at the earliest...'   and look what happened.

I completely understand where you are coming from Ray and that's something I am taking into consideration.  However, when God tells me something that is unmistakeably coming from Him, I cannot ignore it.

To the rest of you on this thread in the past couple pages, it really speaks to my heart that both believers and non-believers (like most of the forum) are being very supportive of this and I really do value all the constructive thoughts I have received.  I have not seen any negative thoughts, just "be absolutely sure" thoughts.  I really appreciate those.  That also confirms to me that my God is behind this because He is causing believers and non-believers alike to coalesce around this idea and get behind me.

Alright I'll bite and be a jerk....

You are very bad at interpreting the Atlas Forum reaction.  Perhaps you should dwell upon your interpretations of what God is telling you.   From a relief perspective, you are also lacking in qualifications to help the people of Kenya. What skills are you bringing to the table? Some misplaced guilt and a savior complex is not enough.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 08:26:23 PM
bushie, im really not trying to be a smartass.  but *slow down*.   you were saying the *exact same things* with your last fiance.  you kept saying 'im going to take it slow.'  'it wont happen until xxxx at the earliest...'   and look what happened.

I completely understand where you are coming from Ray and that's something I am taking into consideration.  However, when God tells me something that is unmistakeably coming from Him, I cannot ignore it.

To the rest of you on this thread in the past couple pages, it really speaks to my heart that both believers and non-believers (like most of the forum) are being very supportive of this and I really do value all the constructive thoughts I have received.  I have not seen any negative thoughts, just "be absolutely sure" thoughts.  I really appreciate those.  That also confirms to me that my God is behind this because He is causing believers and non-believers alike to coalesce around this idea and get behind me.

Alright I'll bite and be a jerk....

You are very bad at interpreting the Atlas Forum reaction.  Perhaps you should dwell upon your interpretations of what God is telling you.   From a relief perspective, you are also lacking in qualifications to help the people of Kenya. What skills are you bringing to the table? Some misplaced guilt and a savior complex is not enough.

What I lack in "qualifications" is quickly overshadowed by the qualifications of my God.  I do have some qualifications, though.  The main thing I would probably be doing is helping run the Maisha Orphanage from the ground.  The headquarters is in Oklahoma City, but on the ground, they need men. They have a few men who are working their tails off trying to make sure all the kids and widows are accounted for and known by name, plus one of them travels back and forth to the slums each day and ministers to them.  God didn't call me to be qualified, He called me to be available and ready to be used for His Kingdom.  If I'm available and willing in whatever task I am given, then I have enough qualifications.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Yelnoc on March 29, 2012, 08:30:27 PM
bushie, im really not trying to be a smartass.  but *slow down*.   you were saying the *exact same things* with your last fiance.  you kept saying 'im going to take it slow.'  'it wont happen until xxxx at the earliest...'   and look what happened.

I completely understand where you are coming from Ray and that's something I am taking into consideration.  However, when God tells me something that is unmistakeably coming from Him, I cannot ignore it.

To the rest of you on this thread in the past couple pages, it really speaks to my heart that both believers and non-believers (like most of the forum) are being very supportive of this and I really do value all the constructive thoughts I have received.  I have not seen any negative thoughts, just "be absolutely sure" thoughts.  I really appreciate those.  That also confirms to me that my God is behind this because He is causing believers and non-believers alike to coalesce around this idea and get behind me.

Alright I'll bite and be a jerk....

You are very bad at interpreting the Atlas Forum reaction.  Perhaps you should dwell upon your interpretations of what God is telling you.   From a relief perspective, you are also lacking in qualifications to help the people of Kenya. What skills are you bringing to the table? Some misplaced guilt and a savior complex is not enough.
I doubt he will be expected to do skilled labor.  I'm sure somebody other than Delta is making money off of his missionary trip.  Probably part of a larger scheme.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 09:01:40 PM
God is starting to define my mission and purpose for going down there.  The men at Maisha oversee the day to day operations at Maisha and communicate with the business office in Oklahoma City.  They need men.  I would join them in overseeing the day to day operations on the ground.  Secondly, I would be learning the Luo dialect of SW Kenya, and the Swahili language, but then I would also be learning the Luo dialects of neighboring Uganda and Tanzania as my ministry will hopefully expand into those countries, as well.

My biological brother is now on board which will make it easier to talk to my parents when the time comes later on this year to break the news to them.  I want to give them a full year to prepare themselves for their baby boy living 10,000 miles away, which would put my departure around the end of 2013 or the beginning of 2014.

There's a lot of preparation that must take place in the next 18-24 months, so I'm not anywhere near ready right now mentally, physically, spiritually, or emotionally.  I say I could leave next month if called upon, but I am not ready, yet.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 29, 2012, 09:06:33 PM
Over/under on Bush returning to Africa by May Sweeps?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on March 29, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
WALTER MITTY'S REAL NAME IS RAY?

n00b


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 29, 2012, 09:42:30 PM
Over/under on Bush returning to Africa by May Sweeps?

Not gonna happen.  I am mentally, spiritually, physically, and emotionally not ready to do it, yet.

However, "endorsements" are piling up.  THe latest is my biological brother and also my college friends who are missionaries to China.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 30, 2012, 01:24:26 AM
Or... perhaps someone should try and communicate with him posing as this 'God' fellow.  He seems to actually listen to him (though I'm at a loss to know how).

Would God have an R-Israel avatar?  Or is God American?

Also, will there be a Kony 2012 / BushOK crossover episode this year?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 30, 2012, 01:32:47 AM
Did you visit the hospital in Nairobi where Obama was really born?

Everyone knows that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya. Lines 8 and 11 of this document prove it.

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Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 30, 2012, 06:06:50 AM
Good Friday Morning! I had another little confirmation last night, or reassurance I guess you could call it.  I asked God if this is truly from Him, and not something from my own desire, then to let me sleep and not even think about it.  What happened?  I slept like a baby for 7 hours.  I went to bed at 10:15 and woke up at 5:15 am.  After having slept on it for a night, I've got a game plan.

Work in Oklahoma at Dell for the next 24 months supporting myself and my children, as well as being there for my biological American family and my adopted American sister.
In Autumn 2012, I want to start making preparations to raise the funds, secure employment, find a place to live that will accomodate myself and my two children.
In January 2013, I want to be able to fill my parents into what is going on.
In March 2013, I will make a return visit to Maisha and possibly go again in the Autumn 2013.
Be on the ground and moved to celebrate my 32nd birthday on April 29, 2014.

Of course, God can always change things either sooner or later, but this is how I'm seeing the time line after having slept on it.

So, nothing immediate except raising funds to go back next March and fulfilling my responsibilities at Dell and to my American and African families.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 30, 2012, 06:09:33 AM
You are a better Christian then I- I commend you for your dedication to doing God's work


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 30, 2012, 09:10:08 AM
Why don't you just adopt your children and move them to Oklahoma with you? Like Brad and Angelina?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 30, 2012, 09:17:08 AM
Crap. I just read through the last few pages. BushOK will be in Kenya by the end of the summer, if not sooner. I have seen this story a million times.


Or, could he throw us a curve ball like with his job and actually do what he says? That's what makes this season so good!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 30, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
I'm bothered by the timelines......those are certainly not coming from a divine power.   


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on March 30, 2012, 09:42:36 AM
When you have a host of personal problems and issues, just "adopt" a couple of kids, and it will all get better. You will no longer feel so alone. This meme in various forms has been repeating itself since time began. This is just the latest iteration.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on March 30, 2012, 09:52:25 AM
torie is basically correct.

bushie, the reason you want to go back to kenya is because of your 'kids'.  you long to have a 'family' and unconditional love.  the very same reasons you rushed into your engagements.

to paraphrase jack kerouac...l love love.  and apparently so do you.  it is perfectly human.  but you have to stop and think things through with a clear head.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on March 30, 2012, 11:07:28 AM
It may not be a Biblical phrase per se, but the Bible does say that God helps those who helps themselves.

Bushie, you need to help yourself. I've just landed yourself a well-paying job- a federal job, and you want to go away and live in Africa. Let me say this: there are many opportunities in Africa- my mother is the oldest of seven siblings yet the most successful is the youngest, who stayed in Ethiopia! Africa is a rising continent, and if you have a quick wit, or some kind of talent, you can make a name for yourself. Perhaps even train a calling center.

But you must keep these children in mind. If you truly care for them, you will realize that the plan you've drawn for yourself doesn't add up- you won't be able to care for them. Africa is a rough place, and you have people who in two continents who are now depending upon you. Do you really think that you'll be to provide for them as a minister in Africa?

Are you willing and able to help yourself?

A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back.
Proverbs 29:11


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 30, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
Good Friday Morning! I had another little confirmation last night, or reassurance I guess you could call it.  I asked God if this is truly from Him, and not something from my own desire, then to let me sleep and not even think about it.  What happened?  I slept like a baby for 7 hours.  I went to bed at 10:15 and woke up at 5:15 am.  After having slept on it for a night, I've got a game plan.

You know, I never followed the Update thread, so I am not familiar with the way you think God communicates in an active relationship.  But is this your normal modus operandi...always setting out a series of (very minor) fleeces in order to determine “God’s will” for your life?

First, I am NOT a subscriber of the ideal that you have to chronically seek “God’s will” in your life (e.g. “The Purpose Driven Life”).  His will for you is already stated point blank in scripture – there is no need to seek it, it is already given to you.

Would you be doing God’s work if you went to Africa and helped them meet their spiritual and physical needs?  Absolutely.  But you would also be doing God’s work by helping out in your current community in OK.

Ecc 9:10 “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might.”

Second, even though Gideon put out a fleece before God in Judges ch6, it wasn’t necessary, for God had already spoken to him.  Gideon was just acting like Moses did - doubting what God actually told him.  In the New Testament, where is there a single example of someone putting a fleece before God?  Christians are supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit, not fleeces.

If you think God is leading you to move to Africa, then why doesn’t God simply call you to go to Africa?

John 10:4 “his sheep follow him because they know his voice.”

God gives you the freedom of choice to go serve him in Africa, and he also gives you the freedom of choice to continue to serve him in OK...but don't think God predominate will for your life is to pack your bags and move unless he is actually asking you to do so:

1Cor 7:20 "Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him."

Are you attempting to convince people God is calling you to go to Africa simply due to your interpretation of these fleeces?  Again, I ask: is this your normal modus operandi – taking everything as a sign from God?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 30, 2012, 12:29:47 PM
Ok, now it gets good: jm is breaking out the Biblical quotes!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 30, 2012, 12:31:40 PM
Do we have a [Fill in this week's party choice here] - Republic of Kenya avatar yet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: opebo on March 30, 2012, 12:40:21 PM
Please, fellas, if you want to talk that way about the Kenyan women, take it elsewhere.  I don't want to litter this thread with what they look like where.

We were talking about a very serious political issue, Bushok - clitorectomy.  I don't know if you had a chance to address this issue during your visit..


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 30, 2012, 12:53:22 PM
Good Friday Morning! I had another little confirmation last night, or reassurance I guess you could call it.  I asked God if this is truly from Him, and not something from my own desire, then to let me sleep and not even think about it.  What happened?  I slept like a baby for 7 hours.  I went to bed at 10:15 and woke up at 5:15 am.  After having slept on it for a night, I've got a game plan.

Work in Oklahoma at Dell for the next 24 months supporting myself and my children, as well as being there for my biological American family and my adopted American sister.
In Autumn 2012, I want to start making preparations to raise the funds, secure employment, find a place to live that will accomodate myself and my two children.
In January 2013, I want to be able to fill my parents into what is going on.
In March 2013, I will make a return visit to Maisha and possibly go again in the Autumn 2013.
Be on the ground and moved to celebrate my 32nd birthday on April 29, 2014.

Of course, God can always change things either sooner or later, but this is how I'm seeing the time line after having slept on it.

So, nothing immediate except raising funds to go back next March and fulfilling my responsibilities at Dell and to my American and African families.
I wouldn't trust god based on your past encounters with him, make sure you get a signature from him on his contract before you head into your next adventure!!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 30, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
Good Friday Morning! I had another little confirmation last night, or reassurance I guess you could call it.  I asked God if this is truly from Him, and not something from my own desire, then to let me sleep and not even think about it.  What happened?  I slept like a baby for 7 hours.  I went to bed at 10:15 and woke up at 5:15 am.  After having slept on it for a night, I've got a game plan.

You know, I never followed the Update thread, so I am not familiar with the way you think God communicates in an active relationship.  But is this your normal modus operandi...always setting out a series of (very minor) fleeces in order to determine “God’s will” for your life?

First, I am NOT a subscriber of the ideal that you have to chronically seek “God’s will” in your life (e.g. “The Purpose Driven Life”).  His will for you is already stated point blank in scripture – there is no need to seek it, it is already given to you.

Would you be doing God’s work if you went to Africa and helped them meet their spiritual and physical needs?  Absolutely.  But you would also be doing God’s work by helping out in your current community in OK.

Ecc 9:10 “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might.”

Second, even though Gideon put out a fleece before God in Judges ch6, it wasn’t necessary, for God had already spoken to him.  Gideon was just acting like Moses did - doubting what God actually told him.  In the New Testament, where is there a single example of someone putting a fleece before God?  Christians are supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit, not fleeces.

If you think God is leading you to move to Africa, then why doesn’t God simply call you to go to Africa?

John 10:4 “his sheep follow him because they know his voice.”

God gives you the freedom of choice to go serve him in Africa, and he also gives you the freedom of choice to continue to serve him in OK...but don't think God predominate will for your life is to pack your bags and move unless he is actually asking you to do so:

1Cor 7:20 "Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him."

Are you attempting to convince people God is calling you to go to Africa simply due to your interpretation of these fleeces?  Again, I ask: is this your normal modus operandi – taking everything as a sign from God?

The expert has spoken.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 30, 2012, 01:23:25 PM

My point is that there is biblical precedent for the way he believes God is communicating with him.  But, the bible never claims to be exhaustive of the ways Christ communicates to his believers, and I do believe that God can move the heart...so, I would like to know if this is BushOK's normal way of interpreting signs from God, and if so, how have the past "signs" and "interpretations" worked out.

From my experience, Christians who interpret everything as a sign from God tend to be constantly uprooting their lives and going off half-cocked.  

That's why it is written: 

1Cor 7:20 "Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 30, 2012, 01:35:49 PM

From my experience, Christians who interpret everything as a sign from God tend to be constantly uprooting their lives and going off half-cocked.  


Amen


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 30, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
My soul is very much at peace with moving to Kenya in 2014.  He has given mef focus today and the assurance that He will take care of the details. He just asks me to be available and open.  I know this much peace this quick is the sole work of the Holy Spirit.  He is the author of peace, not anxiety and confusion.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 30, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
Do we have a [Fill in this week's party choice here] - Republic of Kenya avatar yet?

We definitely need one :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: tpfkaw on March 30, 2012, 01:56:33 PM
Don't move to Kenya, Jeff.  Pretty sure the scam this time involves organ harvesting.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 30, 2012, 01:57:40 PM
My soul is very much at peace with moving to Kenya in 2014.  He has given mef focus today and the assurance that He will take care of the details. He just asks me to be available and open.  I know this much peace this quick is the sole work of the Holy Spirit.  He is the author of peace, not anxiety and confusion.

so, you're not going to answer my question regarding if this is how you've normally operated?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 30, 2012, 02:32:45 PM
Have we seen Bushie keep a stable situation for two years yet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 30, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
My soul is very much at peace with moving to Kenya in 2014.  He has given mef focus today and the assurance that He will take care of the details. He just asks me to be available and open.  I know this much peace this quick is the sole work of the Holy Spirit.  He is the author of peace, not anxiety and confusion.

so, you're not going to answer my question regarding if this is how you've normally operated?

The fleeces I have put out are done with the intention that God will answer and I will listen.  Based on knowing my body. I could not have slept last night with this much excitement. I also look for anything out of the ordinary. I also believe that whatsoever I ask in Jesus name according to His will, I will receive. I asked God to take away the desires if they weren't of Him. Increasing desires is not exactly getting rid of them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on March 30, 2012, 03:04:09 PM
The fleeces I have put out are done with the intention that God will answer and I will listen.

In the only example in scripture of someone using a fleece, God had already spoken.  There are ZERO examples of using a fleece as a primary means of communication.

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I also look for anything out of the ordinary.

Anything out of the ordinary?  Like a great wind, or an earthquake, or a fire?!

IKings 16 “Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the earthquake. 12 After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper.”

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I also believe that whatsoever I ask in Jesus name according to His will, I will receive. I asked God to take away the desires if they weren't of Him. Increasing desires is not exactly getting rid of them.

Come on, dude, focus, I am not going to tolerate you getting gay on me.

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But you still haven’t told me about your past…have you had inclinations in the past that God was directing you to do something.  If so, list the situations along with the outcome of those situations.

Or am I going to have to ask readers of the Update?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 30, 2012, 03:27:11 PM
Please see the latest status update. Please.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 30, 2012, 03:28:08 PM
Please see the latest status update. Please.

I'm speechless


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 30, 2012, 03:36:07 PM
Yeah, I just read it. Holy f**king s**t.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 30, 2012, 04:18:14 PM
Yeah, I just read it. Holy f**king s**t.

If he'd spent a week in Spain then Rajoy would probably be his new PM.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 30, 2012, 04:20:01 PM
Yeah, I just read it. Holy f**king s**t.

If he'd spent a week in Spain then Rajoy would probably be his new PM.

Have you ever been to BushOK's capital, Madrid?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 30, 2012, 04:21:30 PM
Can someone paraphrase the new status update if it's not unethical?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on March 30, 2012, 04:40:16 PM
that may be the best status update in the history of facebook. 

and bushie it took you forever just to go from regular soda to diet soda, yet you get engaged or plan to move 10,000 miles away at the drop of a hat.  i just dont get it...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 30, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
that may be the best status update in the history of facebook. 

and bushie it took you forever just to go from regular soda to diet soda, yet you get engaged or plan to move 10,000 miles away at the drop of a hat.  i just dont get it...
Did he get engaged to an African?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 30, 2012, 05:15:56 PM
Quoting the first line would be enough. I'd do it but I don't want my first death points.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 30, 2012, 05:42:02 PM
But you still haven’t told me about your past…have you had inclinations in the past that God was directing you to do something.  If so, list the situations along with the outcome of those situations.

Or am I going to have to ask readers of the Update?


Two years ago, he quit his job at Oklahoma Natural Gas to take up a job that was a scam, and (at least initially) didn't believe anyone here who explained to him that it was a scam because "sometimes you just have to step out in faith":

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=120859.msg2587638#msg2587638

The recurring theme of Update is that Bushie constantly makes impulsive decisions without weighing the evidence because he figures that God's looking out for him, so he can't go wrong.  This has reached such a level of self-parody that many of us believe that at least some of this stuff is made up.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 30, 2012, 07:35:12 PM
fck you people teasing us with a terrific Bush status update and not pming it to me! >:(


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on March 30, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
PM this status update to me ASAP you fools!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 30, 2012, 07:58:36 PM
PM this status update to me ASAP you fools!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 30, 2012, 10:20:04 PM
This is my facebook, so I can post the status update if I want.  It doesn't contain any personal information.

"I'm starting to slowly turn into an African. I decided to go onto CNN international and found an article that I took delight in that oil has been discovered in my capitol city of Nairobi. President Mwai Kibaki calls it a major breakthrough. I am starting to call President Kibaki my president! I'm going to try to learn as much about my new home before I move there as I can. So, when I refer to my President I could be referring to Mwai Kibaki or Barack Obama, so I will distinguish them by name."

What can I say, I'm going to do every bit of research I can think of about my new home over the next two or three years until I get home.  Just because my earthly address may change, my passions are not.  I will still be interested in American politics, but I will add Kenyan politics as well as those of the nations surrounding me, Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia.  I will probably not leave the forum, as I will still keep updated on American politics especially if I'm in Kenya during the 2014 US Mid-Terms.  I'll be making a regular appearance in the International Election boards.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 30, 2012, 11:52:23 PM
Moving to Kisumu, Kenya in 2-3 years will no doubt be a huge change for me.  The biggest change in my life since Jesus came into my heart nearly 26 years ago.  The health care system is not as modern as it is in the United States or in most of Europe.  The life expectancy of Kenya is 55 years, brought down largely by the HIV/AIDS epidemic (which according to Wikipedia, is declining among children), and relatively high maternal mortality.  I am well aware that I may not have access to as great of a health care system as I would in the United States.  I will keep a dual citizenship and will keep my primary doctors here in Oklahoma and come back for checkups with them every year.  If I have a minor medical need, I can probably go to the Kisumu or Nairobi Hospitals.  If I have anything major, I will try to purchase a plane ticket to come back to Oklahoma to take care of it.  I realize that may not always be possible or even expedient.  With that, I am fully prepared that my life expectancy could be cut a little short because of the financial and medical access.  I am giving God my entire life and my very being, so just like in America, when He chooses to take me to my real, Heavenly home, I’ll be ready.  I’m not trying to be morbid here, but this is one of the realities I could face just because I still am sporting a human body full of disease and riddled with sin.  I come back to what the Apostle Paul says, “For me to live is Christ, but to die is gain.”  I could still live to be an old man or I could go home early.  Which ever happens, if I’m following my Christ step by step, I’ll be ready no matter when He comes to get me.  Again, not trying to be morbid here or wishing anything or even predicting anything, I’m just laying out facts and possible scenarios and making ready myself for whatever God brings my way.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on March 31, 2012, 12:44:27 AM
WTF??


Bushie,

When God starts "talking" to people, bad things usually happen.  See Iraq....




Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 31, 2012, 06:58:43 AM
I really find it hard to read these threads, and Bushies status updates on facebook. I think the bigger personal problem/issue that I have is that once again, anyone who doesn't say they are on board with him moving are being ignored. The talks of calling a Africa his home, and these kids his children. I dunno anymore man. I think the writers are really starting to throw us a curve ball here. I wouldn't be surprised if for May sweeps, bushie is packed and moving.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 31, 2012, 07:25:32 AM
"I'm starting to slowly turn into an African."

Didn't you use very similar language when you were first dating your last fiancee, "I can feel myself slowly starting to fall in love with her?" (or language similar to that), after you'd known her for like a month and wanted to plan your wedding proposal?  Sounds an awful lot like talking yourself into believing that you love something when you really don't know enough about it yet.  (Assuming any of this is real.)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2012, 07:53:48 AM
Why have we not seen pictures of our dear friend on his trip?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 31, 2012, 07:57:30 AM
Why have we not seen pictures of our dear friend on his trip?

This show doesn't have the budget to film on location.  But if the ratings increase, then they might be able to afford to make a Kenya flashback episode.


Title: BREAKING: Keystone Phil survives first round of BushOK FB friends "trimming."
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Keystone Phil survives first round of BushOK FB friends "trimming."
Post by: AndrewTX on March 31, 2012, 09:40:45 AM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

I am indeed trimming my friends on facebook, which I promised to do right after I got home earlier this week.  Several people did not survive the first round, but I will not mention any names.

Anyway, tomorrow is Sunday, April 1, 2012, the very beginning of my initial preparation for the big move.  I initially wanted to move by May 1, 2014, however, I have a contract on this house with the City of Midwest City that expires September 1, 2014, and I don't want to interrupt my preparation for Christmas, plus you never know what the winter will bring in Oklahoma.  Based on that, i'm pushing my projected move date back to April 1, 2015 just before my 33rd birthday.  God can, of course, change things, and i have to be ready if He says "Go" before my projected date.  I also have to be prepared to wait if He says "Wait".  The April 1, 2015 date is my projected timeline.  I've got a lot to do in the next 36 months, and it will probably take all 36 months to really get me prepared for the big move.  This is one process I do not want to rush as I still have work to do in Oklahoma.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Iosif on March 31, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
Is this guy real?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.

Just because you or anyone didn't make the cut, doesn't mean I don't count you as friends, because I do.  I just need feedback that is founded on the Word of God and bathed in prayer and wisdom.  I may re-add people at a later time, I'm certainly not ruling that out.  Plus, advice aside, I am trying to provide a positive example for my adopted American sister so when she sees my news feed, she will see a Christian legacy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 31, 2012, 10:18:17 AM
Opebo and I were horsing around earlier- but you need to be careful over there... sexual diseases are rampant


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2012, 10:31:09 AM
Opebo and I were horsing around earlier- but you need to be careful over there... sexual diseases are rampant

Yeah, I'm sure he got plenty of action over there. Hope he was careful!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 31, 2012, 10:31:36 AM
Opebo and I were horsing around earlier- but you need to be careful over there... sexual diseases are rampant

Yeah, I'm sure he got plenty of action over there. Hope he was careful!
He is aiming to have children over there...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on March 31, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
I feel like we need to send out a mission to this guy in OC and talk him out of it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 31, 2012, 11:29:12 AM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.

Just because you or anyone didn't make the cut, doesn't mean I don't count you as friends, because I do.  I just need feedback that is founded on the Word of God and bathed in prayer and wisdom.

Then why are you still posting in this thread?

Quote
I may re-add people at a later time, I'm certainly not ruling that out.  Plus, advice aside, I am trying to provide a positive example for my adopted American sister so when she sees my news feed, she will see a Christian legacy.

BushOK's Facebook profile is just like the rapture!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 11:39:22 AM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.

Just because you or anyone didn't make the cut, doesn't mean I don't count you as friends, because I do.  I just need feedback that is founded on the Word of God and bathed in prayer and wisdom.

Then why are you still posting in this thread?

Probably two reasons:

A) I can take the advice, I just don't want the young people on my friends list to see and put to mind the advice that is not bathed in prayer.

B) I'm a glutton for punishment.

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I may re-add people at a later time, I'm certainly not ruling that out.  Plus, advice aside, I am trying to provide a positive example for my adopted American sister so when she sees my news feed, she will see a Christian legacy.

BushOK's Facebook profile is just like the rapture!

[/quote]

The trip to Kenya and the revelations that God has shown me in the days following Kenya have done a good job of refocusing my priorities.  My priorities are now Christ-centered and trying to advance His Kingdom.  I will still have my passions for politics, sports, and weather, but they will include Kenya politics, sports, and weather as well as American.  I also will still have fun.  My fun will just be directed in what will bring Jesus the most glory.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on March 31, 2012, 11:39:48 AM

yes, but he is emotionally underdeveloped or even retarded and has at least one if not several anxiety/attachment disorders.  such is why I can't enjoy taking part in these circuses.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 11:40:50 AM

yes, but he is emotionally underdeveloped or even retarded and has at least one if not several anxiety/attachment disorders.  such is why I can't enjoy taking part in these circuses.

wrong on all accounts.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on March 31, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
you've already confirmed that you have obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is an anxiety disorder, so you either a) were lying or b) I am right on at least one count.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Hash on March 31, 2012, 11:42:37 AM
Bushie, here are your new MPs:

Nyong'o, Peter Anyang' (Kisumu Rural), ODM
Shabbir Ahmed Shakeel Ahmed (Kisumu Town East), ODM
John Olago Aluoch (Kisumu Town West), ODM
 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 11:46:53 AM
Bushie, here are your new MPs:

Nyong'o, Peter Anyang' (Kisumu Rural), ODM
Shabbir Ahmed Shakeel Ahmed (Kisumu Town East), ODM
John Olago Aluoch (Kisumu Town West), ODM
 


Where's the like button?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 11:47:39 AM
you've already confirmed that you have obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is an anxiety disorder, so you either a) were lying or b) I am right on at least one count.

I do have OCD, you're right, but that's not an emotional disorder.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Hash on March 31, 2012, 11:48:32 AM
btw, Jeff, is it true you want to become a dual Kenyan-American citizen?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on March 31, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
you've already confirmed that you have obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is an anxiety disorder, so you either a) were lying or b) I am right on at least one count.

I do have OCD, you're right, but that's not an emotional disorder.

it is by definition an anxiety disorder, which fits with what I claimed:

has at least one if not several anxiety/attachment disorders


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 11:55:56 AM
btw, Jeff, is it true you want to become a dual Kenyan-American citizen?

Yes, it is very true, Hash.  Africans who move to America are called African-Americans.  I want to be an American-African, that is an American who moves to Africa.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on March 31, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
You'll need a British accent.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 12:06:06 PM

I'm sure it will develop overtime.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 31, 2012, 12:09:38 PM
I will still have my passions for politics, sports, and weather, but they will include Kenya politics, sports, and weather as well as American.

Which Kenyan sports are you a fan of?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 12:45:48 PM
I will still have my passions for politics, sports, and weather, but they will include Kenya politics, sports, and weather as well as American.

Which Kenyan sports are you a fan of?


I'll probably get into real football (soccer) which I saw on the TV in Nairobi.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 31, 2012, 01:08:12 PM
I will still have my passions for politics, sports, and weather, but they will include Kenya politics, sports, and weather as well as American.

Which Kenyan sports are you a fan of?


I'll probably get into real football (soccer) which I saw on the TV in Nairobi.

I remember you saying you found it incredibly boring.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 31, 2012, 01:20:05 PM
I will still have my passions for politics, sports, and weather, but they will include Kenya politics, sports, and weather as well as American.

Which Kenyan sports are you a fan of?


I'll probably get into real football (soccer) which I saw on the TV in Nairobi.

You'll need to work on pretending that you care about soccer.  With some fake sports fandom and a simple birth certificate forgery, we might be able to pass you off as a native Kenyan.  Which means that, some day, you might break the color barrier, and be elected Kenya's first white president.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on March 31, 2012, 01:37:25 PM
What a great season so far. First, jmfcst joins the cast and now these hilarious Kenyan developments.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 31, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
Come on. Cricket's vastly more interesting than soccer, and it's at least as popular in Kenya. The ICC World Twenty20 is being held in Sri Lanka this September.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on March 31, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
i didnt survive the first round of the trimming of the fb friends.

apparently im too much of a heathen!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 31, 2012, 02:06:23 PM
Religion is the opiate of the masses, but Bush is having a full blown overdose.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 31, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
My gosh, he's serious?!!?!?!?!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on March 31, 2012, 02:08:12 PM
i would say he quits the new job  within 3 months...unless someone talks some sense into him.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 02:09:43 PM
i would say he quits the new job  within 3 months years...unless someone talks some sense into him.

Fixed


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on March 31, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Well, at least you'll be happy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 31, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
i didnt survive the first round of the trimming of the fb friends.

apparently im too much of a heathen!

Alas, looks like I didn't survive, either.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on March 31, 2012, 02:51:41 PM
i didnt survive the first round of the trimming of the fb friends.

apparently im too much of a heathen!

Alas, looks like I didn't survive, either.

I'm still seeing status updates, so I guess I was spared.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: The Mikado on March 31, 2012, 03:27:20 PM
It may not be a Biblical phrase per se, but the Bible does say that God helps those who helps themselves.

Benjamin Franklin is the Bible?

(Point taken, though)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on March 31, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.

Just because you or anyone didn't make the cut, doesn't mean I don't count you as friends, because I do.  I just need feedback that is founded on the Word of God and bathed in prayer and wisdom.  I may re-add people at a later time, I'm certainly not ruling that out.  Plus, advice aside, I am trying to provide a positive example for my adopted American sister so when she sees my news feed, she will see a Christian legacy.

So.. are you saying that my advise isn't good, because its not shared by people who worship God?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 05:08:12 PM

I'm already happy!  My cousin, who went with me to Kenya, has given me the best compliment not once, but twice this past week.  She said "You look more alive now than I have ever seen you!"  For someone who has known me since she was 2 years old, and she is now 28, that is saying something.  My whole attitude has changed.  Before I left for Kenya, I was starting to go through the motions and was pretty lifeless.  Getting the job helped a lot, and then I went to Kenya, and when we first got to Maisha and saw 450 children come to meet us and walk with us to Maisha, my heart came alive and the seeds were planted for my future life in Kenya.  Little did I know God was planting an entire forest in my heart!  I have been more alive the past two weeks than I have ever been in my 30 years of life.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 05:16:27 PM
Come on. Cricket's vastly more interesting than soccer, and it's at least as popular in Kenya. The ICC World Twenty20 is being held in Sri Lanka this September.

I do like Cricket, as well.  In fact, in college I had several foreign exchange students from India who introduced me to the game of Cricket which we played on the tennis courts for lack of a field.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on March 31, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.

Just because you or anyone didn't make the cut, doesn't mean I don't count you as friends, because I do.  I just need feedback that is founded on the Word of God and bathed in prayer and wisdom.  I may re-add people at a later time, I'm certainly not ruling that out.  Plus, advice aside, I am trying to provide a positive example for my adopted American sister so when she sees my news feed, she will see a Christian legacy.

So.. are you saying that my advise isn't good, because its not shared by people who worship God?

I think he is saying your advice isn't good because you are using your brain and facts to give the advice instead of prayer to give the advice, and he doesn't want little kids to be tempted by brain and facts instead of religion and prayer.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 31, 2012, 06:46:15 PM
...I'm disturbed...



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
BushOK is "trimming" his friends on Facebook. This might be a Kenyan custom but it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway, I survived the first round. My hopes are with the rest of you that you may survive.

Lucky you, I didn't make it. I guess he didn't like people telling him other than what he wants to hear. I'm heart broken :( Why has my god forsaken me.

Just because you or anyone didn't make the cut, doesn't mean I don't count you as friends, because I do.  I just need feedback that is founded on the Word of God and bathed in prayer and wisdom.  I may re-add people at a later time, I'm certainly not ruling that out.  Plus, advice aside, I am trying to provide a positive example for my adopted American sister so when she sees my news feed, she will see a Christian legacy.

So.. are you saying that my advise isn't good, because its not shared by people who worship God?

I think he is saying your advice isn't good because you are using your brain and facts to give the advice instead of prayer to give the advice, and he doesn't want little kids to be tempted by brain and facts instead of religion and prayer.

Note: Those who I cut from my friends list can still give me advice and I can still ponder the advice through one specific avenue and we are posting in it right now.  I'm not closing down this thread as the writers don't have an end to this season in mind.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 08:29:04 PM
I thought I would make a little shift on the focus of this thread to let the old BushOklahoma make an appearance.  This part of BushOklahoma is being transferred to the new BushOklahoma.  Next Sunday is Easter Sunday, which means the next day, Monday, 9th April 2012, I will be shifting my focus to the Fourth of July to celebrate the 236th birthday of my native country, the United States of America.  I am probably 3 1/2 - 4 months away from breaking out the Christmas Music.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 31, 2012, 09:29:18 PM
It was better in Rhodesia. Mods can delete if this is inappropriate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on March 31, 2012, 09:31:25 PM

I'm already happy!  My cousin, who went with me to Kenya, has given me the best compliment not once, but twice this past week.  She said "You look more alive now than I have ever seen you!"  For someone who has known me since she was 2 years old, and she is now 28, that is saying something.  My whole attitude has changed.  Before I left for Kenya, I was starting to go through the motions and was pretty lifeless.  Getting the job helped a lot, and then I went to Kenya, and when we first got to Maisha and saw 450 children come to meet us and walk with us to Maisha, my heart came alive and the seeds were planted for my future life in Kenya.  Little did I know God was planting an entire forest in my heart!  I have been more alive the past two weeks than I have ever been in my 30 years of life.
The plot thickens.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 31, 2012, 09:35:20 PM
I thought I would make a little shift on the focus of this thread to let the old BushOklahoma make an appearance.  This part of BushOklahoma is being transferred to the new BushOklahoma.  Next Sunday is Easter Sunday, which means the next day, Monday, 9th April 2012, I will be shifting my focus to the Fourth of July to celebrate the 236th birthday of my native country, the United States of America.  I am probably 3 1/2 - 4 months away from breaking out the Christmas Music.


...what the heck!?!? why so early?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 09:36:21 PM

I'm already happy!  My cousin, who went with me to Kenya, has given me the best compliment not once, but twice this past week.  She said "You look more alive now than I have ever seen you!"  For someone who has known me since she was 2 years old, and she is now 28, that is saying something.  My whole attitude has changed.  Before I left for Kenya, I was starting to go through the motions and was pretty lifeless.  Getting the job helped a lot, and then I went to Kenya, and when we first got to Maisha and saw 450 children come to meet us and walk with us to Maisha, my heart came alive and the seeds were planted for my future life in Kenya.  Little did I know God was planting an entire forest in my heart!  I have been more alive the past two weeks than I have ever been in my 30 years of life.
The plot thickens.

How?  She went on the same mission trip as I, but she is not being called to Kenya for a lifetime, at least not yet.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 09:40:07 PM
I thought I would make a little shift on the focus of this thread to let the old BushOklahoma make an appearance.  This part of BushOklahoma is being transferred to the new BushOklahoma.  Next Sunday is Easter Sunday, which means the next day, Monday, 9th April 2012, I will be shifting my focus to the Fourth of July to celebrate the 236th birthday of my native country, the United States of America.  I am probably 3 1/2 - 4 months away from breaking out the Christmas Music.


...what the heck!?!? why so early?

You don't know me, do you?  I think about holidays early.  Right after the Fourth of July, if not before, I will start having thoughts of Christmas.  I listen to Christmas music starting no later than 1 August.  I start shopping for Christmas decorations the weekend after Mother's Day as there is one chain store out here, Hobby Lobby, that starts putting out their Halloween, THanksgiving, and Christmas decorations in small quantities right before Memorial Day.  They still do Fourth of July, but they get half of one aisle dedicated to Christmas decorations around the 3rd week of May and then it just steadily grows all the way through middle December.  It becomes full blown in August.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on March 31, 2012, 09:40:53 PM
We are technically in the 3rd season. The show is probably due for a set change.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 09:43:39 PM
We are technically in the 3rd season. The show is probably due for a set change.

The 3rd season is about to wrap up.  There will be very little, if any, break before the 4th season begins which is set at the main character's place of employment and his preparations for his big move.  That will be the big driver of season 4.  It will be a seamless transition from Season 3 to Season 4.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: J-Mann on March 31, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Well, I might as well return for a guest appearance this season ...

Jeff, I think your going on a mission trip was fantastic. I'd like to do the same ... I have a child in India that I sponsor and it has been a rewarding experience just exchanging letters. If the organization is legitimate and vetted, sponsorship can indeed be a great thing.

Your sudden feelings of wanting to move to Kenya are just a result of the satisfaction from the trip -- if you don't stop talking this "I'm a Kenyan, Kenya is my home, I will be there in 1,045 days from now" crap, you're going to end up just like you did in every other situation that we've tried to help you with ... rushing into a scam job, rushing into an engagement, and now -- undoubtedly -- you will rush into moving off to another country. It's inevitable. All of your "I'm taking it slow" assurances are bullsh**t. We've seen this theme play out too many times.

Stop pretending that you're listening to God. You're not ... you're just excited from the trip. And if that IS God speaking to you, he's apparently a three-year-old with severe ADHD: "Oooh, yeah, a job with Australians, cool! Aww, yeah, marriage ... awesome! Bitchin', you can live in Africa!! Go go go go go!!!!!!!"

Someone said earlier that you don't have the qualifications to truly contribute long term there, which you brushed aside by saying that God has the qualifications. Er, sorry ... the dude has kind of let the place go, if you know what I mean. Don't expect any heavy lifting out of him.

We'll all plead with you to think it through, and this show will play out exactly how the others have. First, it'll be two years till the big move. Then 15 months. Then October. Then, before we know it, you and Tiffanye will be on an OnCompany-sponsored joyride to Nairobi.

Devoting more time to Kenya may well be your life's calling ... just slow down and stop talking like a goddamn fool. Countdowns are irrelevant, you're not a citizen there, and you're likely to get a lot more support if you seriously plan this out rather than having the full blueprint hacked out in less than a week.

And do yourself a favor and DON'T take advice from the friends who have nothing more to say than, "PUT IT IN GOD'S HANDS." They're dumb. God gave you a freaking brain for a reason. Use the thing. He's not a chauffeur -- you're driving this thing.

Oh, and thanks for keeping me as a Facebook buddy. In spite of the harshness of my replies, I do care :-)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 31, 2012, 09:52:57 PM
I thought I would make a little shift on the focus of this thread to let the old BushOklahoma make an appearance.  This part of BushOklahoma is being transferred to the new BushOklahoma.  Next Sunday is Easter Sunday, which means the next day, Monday, 9th April 2012, I will be shifting my focus to the Fourth of July to celebrate the 236th birthday of my native country, the United States of America.  I am probably 3 1/2 - 4 months away from breaking out the Christmas Music.


...what the heck!?!? why so early?

You don't know me, do you?  I think about holidays early.  Right after the Fourth of July, if not before, I will start having thoughts of Christmas.  I listen to Christmas music starting no later than 1 August.  I start shopping for Christmas decorations the weekend after Mother's Day as there is one chain store out here, Hobby Lobby, that starts putting out their Halloween, THanksgiving, and Christmas decorations in small quantities right before Memorial Day.  They still do Fourth of July, but they get half of one aisle dedicated to Christmas decorations around the 3rd week of May and then it just steadily grows all the way through middle December.  It becomes full blown in August.

Ah, Interesting :).

Well, I'll stay tuned for the details of your next post :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 31, 2012, 10:00:30 PM
The flashbacks I am having are just wonderful! J-Mann is back to give advice that will undoubtedly be ignored as we watch BushKy move his date to move closer and closer to now.

Like I said earlier, he is excited about the trip and wants to go back. We all get that feeling when we have a truly wonderful time, especially when we were 3 years old, "oh I want to move  there!"

And of course, he is probably asking the same people for advice that he asked when he took the ONCompany job and the like who told him to go on a leap of faith.

I often ponder the existence of god, especially after having a good cigar and a few PBRs. I do think, though, if there is a god, he wants us to use our brains that we were given as opposed to asking him to take our hand and walk us through our lives like a 2 year old. We make choices which will determine our lives, not god. The feelings we get are our basic human emotions, not god in heaven telling us what we need to think and believe.

If BushKy is meant to be in Kenya, things will likely turn out in his favor. But the signs don't point to that, if you want me to get religious. He just got a full time job he's been wanting with decent pay where he can finally take care of himself. He has a career, like he said. If he was meant to actually move to Kenya, I doubt any of this would have happened. He's merely relishing in the excitement of his first time leaving the country. When he asked god to give him a sign about whether it was he or god, and he thought more about it, it was basic human emotion to think about something we know we shouldn't be thinking about.

Deep down, BushKy knows this plan might not fly with his family but he's trying to justify it now before he has that dreaded talk.

I hope I don't miss the second cut of his Facebook list, because while I may not seem like it, I don't want to see BushOK fail and do something stupid. We've seen that enough. He seems to have gotten his life back in some sort of order and now he's standing on the edge of the cliff about to jump again.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 10:11:24 PM
Well, I might as well return for a guest appearance this season ...

Jeff, I think your going on a mission trip was fantastic. I'd like to do the same ... I have a child in India that I sponsor and it has been a rewarding experience just exchanging letters. If the organization is legitimate and vetted, sponsorship can indeed be a great thing.

Your sudden feelings of wanting to move to Kenya are just a result of the satisfaction from the trip -- if you don't stop talking this "I'm a Kenyan, Kenya is my home, I will be there in 1,045 days from now" crap, you're going to end up just like you did in every other situation that we've tried to help you with ... rushing into a scam job, rushing into an engagement, and now -- undoubtedly -- you will rush into moving off to another country. It's inevitable. All of your "I'm taking it slow" assurances are bullsh**t. We've seen this theme play out too many times.

Stop pretending that you're listening to God. You're not ... you're just excited from the trip. And if that IS God speaking to you, he's apparently a three-year-old with severe ADHD: "Oooh, yeah, a job with Australians, cool! Aww, yeah, marriage ... awesome! Bitchin', you can live in Africa!! Go go go go go!!!!!!!"

Someone said earlier that you don't have the qualifications to truly contribute long term there, which you brushed aside by saying that God has the qualifications. Er, sorry ... the dude has kind of let the place go, if you know what I mean. Don't expect any heavy lifting out of him.

We'll all plead with you to think it through, and this show will play out exactly how the others have. First, it'll be two years till the big move. Then 15 months. Then October. Then, before we know it, you and Tiffanye will be on an OnCompany-sponsored joyride to Nairobi.

Devoting more time to Kenya may well be your life's calling ... just slow down and stop talking like a goddamn fool. Countdowns are irrelevant, you're not a citizen there, and you're likely to get a lot more support if you seriously plan this out rather than having the full blueprint hacked out in less than a week.

And do yourself a favor and DON'T take advice from the friends who have nothing more to say than, "PUT IT IN GOD'S HANDS." They're dumb. God gave you a freaking brain for a reason. Use the thing. He's not a chauffeur -- you're driving this thing.

Oh, and thanks for keeping me as a Facebook buddy. In spite of the harshness of my replies, I do care :-)

Oh, boy, where to start...

First off, this is not just a reaction to the trip.  God has put this desire and has confirmed it in my heart.  Another name for Jesus is the "Prince of Peace".  He is the author of peace, not anxiety and confusion.  He has given me total peace.

I do feel at home in Kenya, just as I feel at home in Oklahoma.  I can call Kenya my home if I want.  It's not going to speed things up.  You are saying it will go from 3 years to 2 years to 15 months to this Autumn.  In reality it has actually gone the other direction in the past 4 days.  First, I thought 15 months, then I thought 15-24 months, then 18-24 months, then 2 years solid, now its 3 years solid.  I just don't know exactly.  I have a pretty good sense of time, but I'm not God and He doesn't reveal His timetable to me.  I'm pretty sure it will be 2-3 years away, but God could make it 1 year or He could make it 4 or 5 years.  He doesn't ask me to worry about the details, He just wants me to be completely available and completely open to His direction.  The only thing He has confirmed is that I will eventually be in Kenya for a lifetime.  I'm putting my best guess on the timeline which could be completely wrong in either direction.  I am excited about going, and why shouldn't I be?  Downtown Kisumu and Nairobi as have been mentioned in the El Salvador vs. Kenya thread are actually decent cities with a lot of Western Amenities, especially in Nairobi and Mombasa.  I'm going to continue to do research on Kenya as much as I can without neglecting my responsibilities here in Oklahoma.  I still have work to do in Oklahoma (which is why the expanding timeline).  Everything I do now, is now in preparation for my big move, which is minimum 2 years, most likely 3 years away.  The reason it's not immediate is I made a commitment while in Kenya to be a big brother/uncle figure to a young lady here in Oklahoma City.  She is just about ready to turn 16 in June, and I have committed to be here with her, encouraging her, mentoring her as a brother would until she moves out of her mother's house and goes to college.  Having seen a glimpse of her heart, I wouldn't be suprised if she follows me to Kenya because I know her heart is there, as well.

I will keep seeking and heeding the advice of those who urge me to Put it in God's hands.  That is the most solid advice I have ever been given.  Yes, I have a brain and I'm going to use it, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to fully trust my God to perform what He said He is going to perform.

Jesse, there is another round of cuts coming in a couple weeks, but you are safe.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on March 31, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
Bushie, you do need to worry about the details of your life. You're the one that has to live it. Somethings are beyond control, but to throw up your hands and say I'm going to let God handle it isn't helpful either. I think it's cool that you have a goal, and it's a welll-intentioned one. There is a lot of need for humanitarian work.  Have you talked to people who do this full-time so that you understand what you're working toward and what jobs are available?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
Yes, I am going very fast in the research and developments of this new adventure, because, yes, I am very excited.  I know without a shadow of a doubt that I have been called full time to Kenya.  I don't know God's timeline, but I'm putting a minimum 30 months probably more like 36 months because of Christmas and the uncertainty of the Oklahoma winter.

As far as my career.  God gave me that career for a reason and it is so I can support my African children comfortably until such a time as I can get down there and bring them home to live with me.  My heart is truly in Kisumu, Kenya, and I will NOT apologize for calling Kenya home.  It is not going to make things go any faster.  In fact, in light of my mistakes in the past with the engagements and the On Company fiasco and such, my desire for Kenya is going to make me take my time and do this the right way.

I'm also thinking the fact I'm still single is not a coincidence and is not solely because of my mistakes.  God has kept me single so I can more easily follow Him to the ends of the earth as I won't have a family tagging along with me.

It's my love for my children and love for my new country that is going to actually make me take my time and do things right.  Plus, again, I still have obligations in Oklahoma.  I will always be an Okie no matter where I go.  I will never relinquish my American citizenship, I will just dual that along with a Kenyan citizenship.  Even after I move to Kenya, my work in Oklahoma will not be done.  My work in Kenya begins now, even though I am not moving down there for at least 2 1/2, most likely 3 or 3 1/2 years.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
Bushie, you do need to worry about the details of your life. You're the one that has to live it. Somethings are beyond control, but to throw up your hands and say I'm going to let God handle it isn't helpful either. I think it's cool that you have a goal, and it's a welll-intentioned one. There is a lot of need for humanitarian work.  Have you talked to people who do this full-time so that you understand what you're working toward and what jobs are available?

Actually, yes, I have a friend from high school who moved to Kenya right after she graduated in 2002.  She is about to move to Nigeria in 3 months, but she knows what to look for in Kenya.  One of the first things I researched was their major industries, which are Agriculture and Telecommunications.  Telecom is very close to my degree field.  I am also talking a friend who just moved from Choctaw, Oklahoma to Cameroon, Africa.  Another friend who moved from Choctaw, Oklahoma to South Africa.  Yet, another friend who moved from Enid, Oklahoma to China.  So, I will have a good idea of what to expect and how to pull this move off with the least amount of pain.  Not to mention, the leader of Maisha is a native Kenyan who moved to Oklahoma City to start Maisha.  So, I can ask her what it is like to live in Kenya, because that's where she was born.  My main focus would be Maisha, so she would be an even better source as she can tell me what it is like to not only live in Kenya, but to work for Maisha.  I've got sources that I will pick their brains over the next few years.  I'm not void of communications.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 31, 2012, 10:44:07 PM
God gave me that career for a reason and it is so I can support my African children comfortably until such a time as I can get down there and bring them home to live with me.

So your expectation is that once you move there, these kids will move in with you, and you'll be one big happy family?  Don't you have to legally adopt them first?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on March 31, 2012, 10:49:08 PM
God gave me that career for a reason and it is so I can support my African children comfortably until such a time as I can get down there and bring them home to live with me.

So your expectation is that once you move there, these kids will move in with you, and you'll be one big happy family?  Don't you have to legally adopt them first?


It will likely take time, but the process can begin.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on March 31, 2012, 11:57:19 PM
I suppose the strength of people who are soooo blinkered by religion, they see everything, good-bad-indifferent as being from God, so take no responsibility for constant f*** ups.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 01, 2012, 12:09:11 AM
I suppose the strength of people who are soooo blinkered by religion, they see everything, good-bad-indifferent as being from God, so take no responsibility for constant f*** ups.

It's stuff like this that I do ignore that is laughing at Christians and calling us stupid that it makes absolutely no sense.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 01, 2012, 12:40:55 AM
I suppose the strength of people who are soooo blinkered by religion, they see everything, good-bad-indifferent as being from God, so take no responsibility for constant f*** ups.

It's stuff like this that I do ignore that is laughing at Christians and calling us stupid that it makes absolutely no sense.

Planning to move halfway across the world on a whim because God "told" you to do so is what makes absolutely no sense.

Bushie, with all due respect, we have been down this road before, with on company, the vacuum thing and a bunch of other crap.  It is one thing to have strong religious feelings, that is fine, no one is saying otherwise.  

However, its a completely different story when you decide to suspend all rationale thought and critical thinking because you asked God and he "told" you to do something.  Its simply a very dangerous way to live and go about things, you have been burned by it many times before.  


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Hash on April 01, 2012, 09:12:03 AM
I, for one, strongly support BushOK's decision to move to Kenya and become a Kenyan.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 01, 2012, 09:28:54 AM

As far as my career.  God gave me that career for a reason and it is so I can support my African children comfortably until such a time as I can get down there and bring them home to live with me.  

I'm glad that he did this for you and your African children. Obviously, there probably arent any starving children in Oklahoma, or even within a mile radius of you who need the food. God works in grand ways.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 01, 2012, 09:54:54 AM
How do Bushie threads always reach a million pages? The Update was >300!

Also, RON PAUL R3VOLUTION


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 01, 2012, 11:38:02 AM
How do Bushie threads always reach a million pages? The Update was >300!

Also, RON PAUL R3VOLUTION

Have you ever read anything remotely as fascinating as BushKy's story on these forums? On the internet in general? There's a reason he gets so many responses.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 01, 2012, 11:53:23 AM
I suppose the strength of people who are soooo blinkered by religion, they see everything, good-bad-indifferent as being from God, so take no responsibility for constant f*** ups.

It's stuff like this that I do ignore that is laughing at Christians and calling us stupid that it makes absolutely no sense.

Planning to move halfway across the country on a whim because God "told" you to do so is what makes absolutely no sense.

Bushie, with all due respect, we have been down this road before, with on company, the vacuum thing and a bunch of other crap.  It is one thing to have strong religious feelings, that is fine, no one is saying otherwise. 

However, its a completely different story when you decide to suspend all rationale thought and critical thinking because you asked God and he "told" you to do something.  Its simply a very dangerous way to live and go about things, you have been burned by it many times before. 

Yes, Kenya is "halfway across the country" from Oklahoma.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 01, 2012, 12:09:05 PM
how come no one has told bushie that he doesnt have african children?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 01, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
how come no one has told bushie that he doesnt have african children?

Because making up stories about imaginary black children is a hoot.  Just ask Karl Rove, circa February 2000.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 01, 2012, 04:10:26 PM
how come no one has told bushie that he doesnt have african children?

Because that would be a lie.  I don't have biological African children, but I am the sole financial support of two children and they have no mother or father, so I am their father.  In just three years, I will be going down there to begin the year long process of legally adopting them and moving them in with me.  I know what my God has called me to do and He is already starting to work out one of the biggest details, employment.  One of the big industries is Telecommunications which is very close to my degree.  I will be getting my Security+ and ITIL certifications up here before the middle of May for my job in Oklahoma and those certifications will carry over wherever I go.  Plus, I am hearing rumors around my Dell office that there are plans in the works for Dell to expand into Nairobi, which would be tremendous, because then, I wouldn't have to leave Dell to move, I could just transfer.  Dell is already in Egypt and Zimbabwe, I believe, and now they are looking at building in Nairobi.  I could live and work in Nairobi and drive to Kisumu (7-hour drive) on weekends to visit my children and help at Maisha.  I'm excited.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 01, 2012, 04:22:26 PM
they arent legally your children, bushie.

youre chasing rainbows again.  it will end the same as your other adventures have ended.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: afleitch on April 01, 2012, 04:44:57 PM
The last thing Kenya needs is another obese white Christian indulging in a spot of modern day patronising colonialism.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 01, 2012, 05:55:55 PM
they arent legally your children, bushie.

youre chasing rainbows again.  it will end the same as your other adventures have ended.

I know they're not legally my children, yet, it doesn't mean they are not my children.

This will not end the same way.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 01, 2012, 05:58:14 PM
Nice insult, afleitch.  Kudos.  For the record, I have lost 30 pounds since November, and I am no longer morbidly obese, I'm just overweight.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 01, 2012, 06:03:40 PM
Tell us truthfully why you haven't talked to your parents yet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 01, 2012, 06:15:04 PM
Tell us truthfully why you haven't talked to your parents yet?

The timing is just not right.  I'm not leaving for three years, and I don't want to scare them.  I want to put some space after the initial trip to Kenya before I tell them so they won't think it's an emotional response.  I'm not worried about them trying to talk me out of it, because at this point that's nearly impossible, because I believe in my heart of hearts that God has been preparing me for the last 30 years for such a time and such an adventure as this.  I don't want to scare them, either, because I am their baby boy.  Plus, I want to have an idea of the employment situation down there before I tell them, which I've already got an idea of since Dell is planning to expand into Nairobi according to rumors I've heard through the grapevine at work.  I do want to give them a year or two to prepare their hearts for their baby boy living and working 8,500 miles away as the crow flies.  Their closest son would still be 1,500-2,000 miles away in Norfolk, Virginia.  I'm not ready to go, yet.

Oh, and Duke, you keep putting BushKy.  Ky is Kentucky.  KE is Kenya, so start referring to me as BushKe.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 01, 2012, 06:46:26 PM
I suppose the strength of people who are soooo blinkered by religion, they see everything, good-bad-indifferent as being from God, so take no responsibility for constant f*** ups.

It's stuff like this that I do ignore that is laughing at Christians and calling us stupid that it makes absolutely no sense.

That's the thing... I'm not laughing a 'Christians', I laugh at (and have serious concerns for) people who resign responsibility for their decisions.

I know PLENTY of Christians who would find your position quite horrifying.

You have made some literally mind-bogglingly bad decisions over the past few years... and thanked God for them at their inception almost every time... then when the inevitable end occurs... you thank God for that too...

So... either God really doesn't like you... or you're really bad at using your own God-given brain and free-will to make decisions for your life.

I'm being harsh, and as usual, it probably won't set-in, but this actually comes from a place of deep concern. It's not like you need to give up your faith to inject a little common-sense.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 01, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
Tell us truthfully why you haven't talked to your parents yet?

The timing is just not right.  I'm not leaving for three years, and I don't want to scare them.  I want to put some space after the initial trip to Kenya before I tell them so they won't think it's an emotional response. 

uh.  it is an emotional response.

another serious question, what if you meet a woman between now and your planned departure?  will she have to sign up for a kenyan deployment?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 02, 2012, 12:28:17 AM
my reaction to the past five pages:

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Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 02, 2012, 12:33:21 AM
Tell us truthfully why you haven't talked to your parents yet?

Right after he finds his stapler.

"...but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire..."
 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 02, 2012, 12:38:06 AM
how come no one has told bushie that he doesnt have african children?

Because that would be a lie.  I don't have biological African children, but I am the sole financial support of two children and they have no mother or father, so I am their father.  In just three years, I will be going down there to begin the year long process of legally adopting them and moving them in with me.  I know what my God has called me to do and He is already starting to work out one of the biggest details, employment.  One of the big industries is Telecommunications which is very close to my degree.  I will be getting my Security+ and ITIL certifications up here before the middle of May for my job in Oklahoma and those certifications will carry over wherever I go.  Plus, I am hearing rumors around my Dell office that there are plans in the works for Dell to expand into Nairobi, which would be tremendous, because then, I wouldn't have to leave Dell to move, I could just transfer.  Dell is already in Egypt and Zimbabwe, I believe, and now they are looking at building in Nairobi.  I could live and work in Nairobi and drive to Kisumu (7-hour drive) on weekends to visit my children and help at Maisha.  I'm excited.

Do you really have the financial means and parental expertise to be the adoptive parent to two children?  Perhaps you should talk to a counselor before you start trying to go down this road.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 02, 2012, 12:41:26 AM
Do you really have the financial means and parental expertise to be the adoptive parent to two children?  Perhaps you should talk to a counselor before you start trying to go down this road.

You honestly think he'll give this or any other intelligent consideration any thought whatsoever?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 02, 2012, 12:43:28 AM
Do you really have the financial means and parental expertise to be the adoptive parent to two children?  Perhaps you should talk to a counselor before you start trying to go down this road.

You honestly think he'll give this or any other intelligent consideration any thought whatsoever?

If he truly cares about the children, I think he'll talk this over to a professional counselor to get their opinion of whether he should be adopting 2 children.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 02, 2012, 12:44:43 AM
Do you really have the financial means and parental expertise to be the adoptive parent to two children?  Perhaps you should talk to a counselor before you start trying to go down this road.

You honestly think he'll give this or any other intelligent consideration any thought whatsoever?

If he truly cares about the children, I think he'll talk this over to a professional counselor to get their opinion of whether he should be adopting 2 children.

You're giving him way too much credit.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 02, 2012, 12:52:54 AM
Do you really have the financial means and parental expertise to be the adoptive parent to two children?  Perhaps you should talk to a counselor before you start trying to go down this road.

You honestly think he'll give this or any other intelligent consideration any thought whatsoever?

If he truly cares about the children, I think he'll talk this over to a professional counselor to get their opinion of whether he should be adopting 2 children.

You're giving him way too much credit.

I agree... does he know if God wants this yet? Or because he's had a good time and wants to return... the surely he does and will provide all in time which is necessary?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: tpfkaw on April 02, 2012, 01:17:03 AM
Jeff:

Have you met these children in person?  Are you sending them money at present?  If so, to which person or entity specifically are you sending money?  What method of money transfer are you using?

Have you done any actual inquiries into housing or employment at all?  What happens if your car breaks down or you run out of gas in the middle of your 7-hour drive through Kenya?  You can't exactly call AAA.  Have you considered that a long drive might be dangerous for an out-of-shape white person, alone, driving a (presumably for Kenya) expensive car?  There's a good chance you could be kidnapped or worse.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on April 02, 2012, 01:43:05 AM
Guys, I think we should support Bushie. Better he adopt two kids financially than have some biological ones on his own.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 02, 2012, 01:47:13 AM
Guys, I think we should support Bushie. Better he adopt two kids financially than have some biological ones on his own.

Consider what those kids have already been through?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 02, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
You know, as someone with experience in long distance relationships, I feel I should say something about this move, yet again.

If you aren't even sure you will live in the same city as your "kids," then why go to Kenya? A 7 hour drive every weekend will not last as the gas will be insane and you will be exhausted. Trust me. I dated a girl long distance for 7 months after I graduated college, and it drained me both emotionally and physically trying to go to law school and travel between SC and NY all the time. Plus, it isn't the same as being near them all the time. Plus, a 7 hour drive in Kenya is far different than a 7 hour drive through the Carolinas and virginia. What if something happens and your stranded? You'd be dead. Whoever you stumble across won't be there to help you in most cases. None of us want to see that.

I know you met these kids and really like them, but to uproot your entire life to move to Kenya for them when you don't even know if they will want to live with you is absolutely insane.

In the past, I felt like your actions were just unlucky, but I am seriously thinking now some professional needs to step in before you really do screw up your life. Seriously, I am concerned. If the sole reason you want to move to Kenya is to be closer to your "kids" and those kids will still be 7 hours away if you transfer with Dell, you're setting yourself up to be heartbroken. Some other sponsor might come along and they'll be their "kids" too.

I feel like you're being very naive about all of this. One doesn't just up and moves to Kenya on a whim because they feel a "calling" to go there. That's a huge life decision and not something one just does. Especially an overweight white person from Oklahoma. You went there on a mission trip. You had a nice time and felt a powerful message, but I just feel like you're acting like a child who just went to the beach for the first time and you're begging your parents to move there so you can go to the beach all the time.

If you move to Kenya, you leave your friends and family behind. Flying back and forth between the US and Kenya probably isn't cheap and since you had to save up before for this ONE trip, imagine if you had to do it regularly. And your "kids," when they start getting older and are more independent. Then you're by yourself in a foreign country. You aren't Kenyan. You never will be Kenyan, no matter how much you think you will, and you're setting yourself up to make a mistake bigger than simply quitting your job.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 02, 2012, 02:34:13 AM
This is pretty much setting us up for a potential series finale if contract negotiations stall.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 02, 2012, 06:13:36 AM
Jeff:

Have you met these children in person?  Are you sending them money at present?  If so, to which person or entity specifically are you sending money?  What method of money transfer are you using?

Have you done any actual inquiries into housing or employment at all?  What happens if your car breaks down or you run out of gas in the middle of your 7-hour drive through Kenya?  You can't exactly call AAA.  Have you considered that a long drive might be dangerous for an out-of-shape white person, alone, driving a (presumably for Kenya) expensive car?  There's a good chance you could be kidnapped or worse.

I have met these children in person.

I am sending them money directly through the Maisha Headquarters in Oklahoma City, a non-profit, which will go directly to Maisha in Kisumu and to the children.

I haven't done any real research on the housing situation down there, what I'm going on now is what I've heard not just from Dell, but from someone from Choctaw High School (my alma mater) who lives 3 hours away from Kisumu.  Even though she's moving to Nigeria in 3 months, she is still a good source of information, because she herself employes thousands of people in an Agriculture and Farming business, which is the biggest industry in Kenya.  The other main research I've done on my own in terms of employment is knowing that Tourism and Telecommunications are their 2nd and 3rd biggest industries.  As far as actual companies in Kisumu, I haven't gotten that far, yet.  I want to have a better idea of the employment before I look at the housing, because it takes money from employment to afford housing.  Duke is right, I would rather be in the same city as my kids, so I don't have to make that drive.  The Dell in Nairobi just makes another option, not a done deal.  I know the children will want to get out of the current situation they are in, living with their aging grandmother only eating 5 meals a week - lunch Monday-Friday when Maisha feeds them.  Later on in April, I will be buying both of them a pair of shoes and maybe a new outfit to send with the group that's going down in early June.  That is over and above the $35 a month each I am sending them for their education and health care.  I gave Phelix my Bible while I was down there, now I need to get Rose a small Bible so she can read it.  None of these items will break my budget, but they will go a long way to improving, even if just a little, their living situation.

The children will grow up and move out of my house, but, by then, I will have at least 3-4 years of experience living in Kenya and I can focus a lot more time with the other children and supporting my children through high school, college, and university.  There are many possibilities.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 02, 2012, 06:39:13 AM
I fully support Bushie becoming a Kenyan as long as his American citizenship is revoked.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2012, 06:39:29 AM
How old are these kids again?  And do they even know that you're going to try to legally adopt them?  And what does the grandmother think of that?

EDIT: Also, *why* do you want to adopt them?  Can you give a one sentence to one paragraph explanation for why you want to adopt kids (while single), and why these kids in particular?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on April 02, 2012, 06:40:59 AM
Well, BushOklahoma I wish you the best and truly hope that if you do move to Kenya that you wil be happy :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 02, 2012, 11:22:17 AM
bushie isnt going to think this through.  he truly believes god is telling him to do this.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 02, 2012, 11:41:23 AM
While I am enjoying this season as much as all the others, I can't help but think the update show is jumping the shark. Bringing in new children, moving to an exotic location, increasingly unbelievable storylines. The telltale signs are all there.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 02, 2012, 11:52:46 AM
Can he even adopt the kids? I've heard of people sending money to Africa to support kids, but I've never heard of anyone moving there to adopt them. Will their grandmother let him? Do they even want him to be their "father?" Frankly, I'd be insulted if someone came into my life for a few weeks and called me his son because he was helping me out financially. And they might be cute now, but what about when the grow up and become rebellious, as all kids do? And college? University? I just hope they get a basic education which so few in Africa get.

BushKE seems to be treating this like it's an American style family situation just in Africa. These kids will have deeply seeded problems that have occurred in their past that will effect their future, and BusKE doesn't seem like the born leader that could step in and take care and motivate them when he still has his mom help him back before a trip. Will he even be allowed to adopt children given his behavior? And they don't just ask god if it's a good idea. They ask actual substance based questions.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 02, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
What a great season so far. First, [the] jmfcst joins the cast and now these hilarious Kenyan developments.

the jmfcst was only making a cameo appearance. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 02, 2012, 02:16:29 PM
Jeff, have you talked to an advisor/counselor about this yet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 02, 2012, 03:09:17 PM
Jeff, have you talked to an advisor/counselor about this yet?

well, it would seem he doesn't go to a church that preaches against attempting to read God into everything.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 02, 2012, 03:15:02 PM
Jeff, have you talked to an advisor/counselor about this yet?

well, it would seem he doesn't go to a church that preaches against attempting to read God into everything.

jmfcst is a no good secularist.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 02, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
Jeff, have you talked to an advisor/counselor about this yet?

well, it would seem he doesn't go to a church that preaches against attempting to read God into everything.

jmfcst is a no good secularist.

no, rather I am a Christian with a relationship with Christ that is in agreement with the scripture...which is why I am never put to shame when following him.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 02, 2012, 03:27:53 PM
I'm far from an expert on theology, but isn't it heretical (or at least extremely unorthodox) to claim direct communication with God? After all, if you have a direct line to the big cheese, what's the point in having the organized religion at all? You could just have a heart to heart with the big man and sleep in on Sundays. I've got a feeling it's going to depend on what sect one subscribes to. It seems adherants never can agree on the details of their belief systems, even the important ones. From my limited experience, Bushie's position seem more in line with those of the blacks. To make an unfair generalization, they're much more into the whole God will call me, and make a path, and you just have to believe, etc. Never really known a white person with quite this angle on religion. But like I said, I'm no expert, so, somebody more into the Christian groove: please fill me in.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 02, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
I'm far from an expert on theology, but isn't it heretical (or at least extremely unorthodox) to claim direct communication with God?

only if the new covenant is heretical and unorthodox:

Jer 31:31 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
   “when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
   and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
   I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
   to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
   though I was a husband to them,”
            declares the LORD.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
   after that time,” declares the LORD.
“I will put my law in their minds
   and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
   and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
   or say to one another, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know me,
   from the least of them to the greatest
,”
            declares the LORD.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
   and will remember their sins no more.”



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 02, 2012, 03:45:08 PM
So you've had a real one on one with the CEO of CEOs? What's the dude like? Seems awfully insecure for such a big shot, hiding behind ancient texts and requiring all the constant praise and attention and such. It doesn't seem to work out too well for Bushie or all the others who are denied basic human needs like clean water and shelter. And that's not even getting into all the natural disasters that wreck so many lives.  Next time you're on the phone with him, tell him to chill the f out with all that stuff. We could all use a little more stability in our lives.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 02, 2012, 03:47:26 PM
So you've had a real one on one with the CEO of CEOs? What's the dude like?

He's full of grace...and communicates directly and very clearly.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 02, 2012, 04:29:29 PM
i think others have raised a legitimate question:  what do the kids want?

how do we know they want to be adopted by a strange man from a strange place with a belief in a strange god?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 02, 2012, 05:50:18 PM
i think others have raised a legitimate question:  what do the kids want?

how do we know they want to be adopted by a strange man from a strange place with a belief in a strange god?

I'm interested in that answer as well. It seems as if these kids have a home, they are just very poor and BushKE is helping with the expenses. I am missing the step between that and actually moving to Africa to adopt them, which, it sounds like, he can't actually do if he will still be 7 hours from them since he will be working in a totally different area of the country. It's more like he'd be the father of kids of a woman he divorced and the court ruled he could only see them on weekends.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: J-Mann on April 02, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
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*dies*


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 02, 2012, 07:17:38 PM
It's really not fair that the rest of us cannot see BushKE's facebook updates.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 02, 2012, 07:22:18 PM
Oh heavens


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 02, 2012, 07:58:15 PM
i think others have raised a legitimate question:  what do the kids want?

how do we know they want to be adopted by a strange man from a strange place with a belief in a strange god?

I'm interested in that answer as well. It seems as if these kids have a home, they are just very poor and BushKE is helping with the expenses. I am missing the step between that and actually moving to Africa to adopt them, which, it sounds like, he can't actually do if he will still be 7 hours from them since he will be working in a totally different area of the country. It's more like he'd be the father of kids of a woman he divorced and the court ruled he could only see them on weekends.

He has a roof over his head and that's about it.  They told his grandmother that I would be sponsoring him and his younger sister, Mercy (my coordinator told me her name is Mercy, not Rose.)  She was elated and raised her hands to heaven and yelled "Thank you, God!"  I am not kidding.  The coordinator said that I have the right to call them my children because I am their sole means of financial support.  Their grandmother barely has enough for rent to keep a roof over their head, and that's it.

I just wrote Phelix a short one-page letter that I will get in the mail this week.  I could have written more, but I didn't want to overwhelm him.  I will write Mercy next Monday and then alternate Monday's writing both kids.  I will be getting a care package started this coming Saturday, 7 April with small stuff for them.  I will wait on the shoes and the new shirt until I find out their sizes.  I am going to hold a small "birthday party" for him here, even though he won't be here, but the presents people will bring will be care package items to send to him.  We're not going to go elaborate here, because J-Mann put it so well on facebook earlier, that the money spent on the birthday party would be better served going to him.  His birthday is 24 April, and he will be 7 years old.  I may just invite a few people over for sandwiches or something and make it a care package packing party.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 02, 2012, 08:45:30 PM
i think others have raised a legitimate question:  what do the kids want?

how do we know they want to be adopted by a strange man from a strange place with a belief in a strange god?

I'm interested in that answer as well. It seems as if these kids have a home, they are just very poor and BushKE is helping with the expenses. I am missing the step between that and actually moving to Africa to adopt them, which, it sounds like, he can't actually do if he will still be 7 hours from them since he will be working in a totally different area of the country. It's more like he'd be the father of kids of a woman he divorced and the court ruled he could only see them on weekends.

Again, the Dell in Nairobi is just an option.  It is not the only option.  There are other employers in Kisumu that I can get on with.  I've got 3 years to figure that out.  Obviously, because of the 7 hour drive, I would prefer to work in Kisumu, but Nairobi is an option as it is much closer to Kisumu than Oklahoma City.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
So the coordinator says you can call them your children because you're sponsoring them, but you haven't actually told them that you plan to legally adopt them?  The grandmother is obviously thankful that you're sending them money, but has no idea that you intend to move to Kenya and try to get the kids to move in with you?

Have you talked to a single person who's adopted kids before to ask about their experience, and whether they think this is a good idea or not?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 02, 2012, 09:02:38 PM
There's a difference between being happy someone will be providing for them and actually moving in with you and leaving their grandmother, you know? If I was poor and lived in the African countryside, I'd raise my hands and praise Jesus if I found out I was getting some support. What I don't understand is why you think they'd be okay leaving their grandmother and moving in with you. It's almost like the whole sponsoring thing is going way too far.

Look, I comment you for what you're doing. My family always does something around the holidays for local inner city kids who don't have much. That's a great thing. But I just don't understand the jumping shark from being their sponsor to calling yourself a Kenyan and calling them your children.

Will you be signing the card "dad?" have you met them?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 02, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
I haven't told them that I plan to legally adopt them because I don't want to get their hopes up and make promises I can't keep.  I'm thinking along the lines that the grandmother is in her 80s which is already ancient by Kenyan standards.  Life expectancy for Kenyans is late 40s, maybe a little higher in Nairobi and Kisumu, but no more than mid 50s or 60.  From what I've heard she's not in the best health, so she could pass away at any time and then they would be left with nobody.  I'm thinking long term for these kids.  Naturally, I don't wish any ill will on the grandmother, and I wish her long life and great health, but I'm just looking at the facts, and as long as she is alive I will not take the kids away from her unless she becomes incapacitated and no longer able to care for the children.  I respect her authority over mine, but at the same time, I am providing their financial support so I am their father.  Since they have no father and their mother is dead, I feel easier about calling myself their daddy.  I will have my coordinator keep a check on the grandmother's health and if at anytime in the next 3 years she becomes incapacitated or unable to care for the children, then I will not hesitate to go down there sooner.  That is what I mean when I say that God can change the timeline.  I would prefer 3 years, but if the safety of the children requires me to be down there sooner, I will go down there sooner.  As a father, in whatever context you want to use that term, I love them as my own children and I will do everything I can to make sure they have as good of a life as possible.  As a parent, my focus is on those children.  Right now, I am working at Dell to provide for those children.  I feel like they are in my house, even though they are not physically in my house.  The $35 a month a piece i am giving them is just the minimum.  I love these children as my very own.

The bottom line is I refuse to let my children live on the streets or in the slums.  I will sacrifice my own future and my own comfort and even my own life if it means giving them a brighter future whether that's in Kenya or in America.

Yes, I will be signing the card "Love from your daddy in Oklahoma!"


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 02, 2012, 09:57:57 PM
F[inks]... he's treating these children just like he treated Tiffanye (or whatever). Known them for less than a month and he already loves them like his own to the point that he's willing to die for them!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 02, 2012, 10:14:15 PM
This is just a disaster waiting to happen...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 02, 2012, 10:16:05 PM
Normally I'd say having the protagonist move to Kenya would be a gimmicky event and a likely shark jumping event, but maybe the writers can get this one to work.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2012, 10:19:24 PM
I respect her authority over mine, but at the same time, I am providing their financial support so I am their father.

That is not how it works.

How much time have you actually spent with these kids by the way?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 02, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Christ almighty. This is insane. Just adopt them and move them to the US a la Brad and Angelina. They'd have a much more comfortable life here than in Kenya. Ours basically waiting till their poor grandmother is dead. They aren't your kids. You're their daddy. I doubt they'll want you claiming as such. Especially the grandmother.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 02, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
Perhaps Google can recommend a good attorney who specialized in international adoption. If you're serious about it, there's going to be a mountain of red tape. And it's going to cost far more than $35/month. Here's some basic info from the gubmint:
http://adoption.state.gov/country_information/country_specific_info.php?country-select=kenya

And from this cursory info, it looks like Kenya does not allow single men to adopt.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 03, 2012, 12:35:21 AM
Perhaps Google can recommend a good attorney who specialized in international adoption. If you're serious about it, there's going to be a mountain of red tape. And it's going to cost far more than $35/month. Here's some basic info from the gubmint:
http://adoption.state.gov/country_information/country_specific_info.php?country-select=kenya

And from this cursory info, it looks like Kenya does not allow single men to adopt.

Bushie is married to God.

But seriously, that's not surprising.  A single American male wanting to adopt a third world kid reeks of sex tourism and trafficking, especially if they look like Bushie.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 03, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
And from this cursory info, it looks like Kenya does not allow single men to adopt.

I'm sure Bushie will ask "his president" to change this discriminatory law.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 03, 2012, 01:19:12 AM
It's strange that God didn't know what the adoption laws in Kenya were when he told Bushie to adopt these children. But I guess God is too busy personally communicating with random people in Oklahoma to look into these sorts of things.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on April 03, 2012, 01:38:02 AM
The writers have left a plot hole.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 03, 2012, 01:58:38 AM
Looks like he has extra incentive to find a wife now. I'm super excited.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 03, 2012, 02:33:01 AM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 03, 2012, 05:51:56 AM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.

I've been talking to several pastors, which are by definition, counselors.

Anyway, I'm done with updating this thread about this situation.  I will update the thread about other items, but not this anymore.  It's getting way too depressing and I know these answers are not being bathed in prayer before they are posted so I'm done.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on April 03, 2012, 05:55:21 AM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.

I've been talking to several pastors, which are by definition, counselors.

Anyway, I'm done with updating this thread about this situation.  I will update the thread about other items, but not this anymore.  It's getting way too depressing and I know these answers are not being bathed in prayer before they are posted so I'm done.

Bushie have you ever considered that seeking advice from people that DO NOT share your views on things (as in: aren't extremely religious) might provide you a useful and different perspective?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 03, 2012, 06:51:34 AM
I agree with Franzl. Although I can't see many posts because I've decided to put Bushie on ignore because Bob Saget told me to do that in protest due to being deleted off facebook.

But seriously, you shouldn't ignore peoples advise because it's not "bathed in prayer". By saying that, you are admitting that you are just looking for advise that you want to hear. You have to take the good and the bad. People aren't saying some of these things because they dont want to see you happy, they are saying it because some of us have been down the same road. Some of us have also seen what you've done in the past, and we seriously want to help make sure you do what is right for you, and not get hurt.

 Come on man, you know this. You know that there are some people on this forum, (myself included) who would be willing to seriously talk with you over PM if you wanted about the situation if you wanted extra advise, or just to hear another point of view. Don't ever be afraid to ask. You can take it or not, but at least you've heard other sides before making a decision.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 03, 2012, 07:51:37 AM

Yes, I will be signing the card "Love from your daddy in Oklahoma!"

kind of creepy. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on April 03, 2012, 08:05:25 AM
ok, I am actually going to jump in here and give 'advice'.


in the past few years I have been suffering through moderate-to-severe mental health and behavioral problems of my own, and have gotten much better through medication and treatment.  so Jeff, please trust me when I tell you, that you are very obviously not a functioning adult, not because you lack intelligence, but because you are psychologically unwell.  you are severely emotionally retarded and have some form of attachment disorder that compels you to chase these golden sunsets.  increasingly they are proving more and more dangerous and disruptive for you, and if you continue to let your health problems go untreated, you will end up homeless, in prison, dead, etc.

so please, at the very least pick out a psychotherapist from the yellow pages, at the most check yourself into a psychiatric hospital.  

David


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 03, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
I see the writers have decided to take a darker turn.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 03, 2012, 11:16:51 AM

Yes, I will be signing the card "Love from your daddy in Oklahoma!"

kind of creepy. 
Kind of? That's about the creepiest sentence in the history of the internet. It's Michael Jackson territory.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 03, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
It's getting way too depressing and I know these answers are not being bathed in prayer before they are posted so I'm done.

yeah, I know exactly what you mean.  What's especially troubling is coming across Christians who are supposed to have their feet planted firmly on a rock, yet, instead, they are repeatedly going off half-cocked because they are seeking a sign from God in every shift in the wind, as a substitute for not knowing the voice of Christ.

John 10:27 "My sheep know my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 03, 2012, 11:23:47 AM
If the law says what it says, there's no amount of prayer bathing it can get to change it. As a single, white male looking to adopt children in Africa, you're going to have a hard time. We're just trying to help you. God can't be telling you these things because he should know you can't legally adopt those children. Either he is giving you false hope, which he doesn't do, plans to give you a wife between now and the time you move, or this is all in your head and you need to ask god to stop these thoughts.

International adoptions are bathed with red tape anyway. I know a couple that adopted a girl from Peru and it took ages to finally get her. And she was an orphan.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: tpfkaw on April 03, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 03, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.

I've been talking to several pastors, which are by definition, counselors.

Anyway, I'm done with updating this thread about this situation.  I will update the thread about other items, but not this anymore.  It's getting way too depressing and I know these answers are not being bathed in prayer before they are posted so I'm done.

Well not all pastors necessarily make for good counselors on all issues.  For both your well-being, and the well-being of these children, I think you should talk to a professional non-religious-focused person about this.

What's the harm in simply doing that?  You're going to have to meet with adoption agencies eventually... why not make sure you're fit to do this first?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 03, 2012, 12:27:14 PM
I lied, I'm posting here again. I appreciate your advice, but the fact that you weren't there and did not experience what I experienced renders your suggestions as ideas.  As far as the adoption laws go, I have read those, but my God is bigger than any government. My God can do anything He wants. I know what God has told me, and I am not backing down. I will not break any laws, but God can do whatever He wants.  I am also not going to apologize for loving two children like my own kids or feeling what a parent feels. I am not going to apologize for love.  I do resent the accusations that I am mental in any way, because they are absolutely baseless and lies.  I have talked with several pastors, who are by definition counselors.  I refuse to go to a counselor who is not a Christian.  I will continue to listen to my God and those who follow His Word.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 03, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.

I've been talking to several pastors, which are by definition, counselors.

Anyway, I'm done with updating this thread about this situation.  I will update the thread about other items, but not this anymore.  It's getting way too depressing and I know these answers are not being bathed in prayer before they are posted so I'm done.

Well not all pastors necessarily make for good counselors on all issues.  For both your well-being, and the well-being of these children, I think you should talk to a professional non-religious-focused person about this.

What's the harm in simply doing that?  You're going to have to meet with adoption agencies eventually... why not make sure you're fit to do this first?

In time.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 03, 2012, 12:29:44 PM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.

I've been talking to several pastors, which are by definition, counselors.

What are their qualifications? What is their educational background? How does one become a pastor in your church?  You have failed to lay any foundation for stating that they are counselors or at least that their advice should be taken as seriously as ours.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 03, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
I know what God has told me, and I am not backing down...I will continue to listen to my God and those who follow His Word.

but that's just it - you've never claimed to have been told anything by God, rather you've simply relied on interpreting signs.  You've brainwashed yourself into believing your own concoction.

in your opinion, what exactly is the following passage trying to tell us?

1Kings 19:11 The LORD said to Elijah, “Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LORD, for the LORD is about to pass by.” Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the earthquake. 12 After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. 13 When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.  Then a voice said to him, “What are you doing here, Elijah?”



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 03, 2012, 12:38:04 PM
You're going to have to eventually deal with non-Christians in this process.  It's probably better for you (and the children) if you talk to a counselor/psychologist/psychiatrist before you start the adoption process.

Think of how devastating it would be to both you and these 2 kids if you were told by the adoption agency halfway through the process that they don't think you're fit to adopt them.

It would spare both you and the children a lot of mental anguish if you find out first if you're emotionally/mentally capable of adopting 2 kids before you start the process.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 03, 2012, 12:43:01 PM
Jeff, I would encourage you to talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist (I always forget which one is which) and see if he/she thinks this is a wise decision.

I've been talking to several pastors, which are by definition, counselors.

Anyway, I'm done with updating this thread about this situation.  I will update the thread about other items, but not this anymore.  It's getting way too depressing and I know these answers are not being bathed in prayer before they are posted so I'm done.

Well not all pastors necessarily make for good counselors on all issues.  For both your well-being, and the well-being of these children, I think you should talk to a professional non-religious-focused person about this.

What's the harm in simply doing that?  You're going to have to meet with adoption agencies eventually... why not make sure you're fit to do this first?

In time.

see, if I were attempting to discern things by signs, I could see your reply as a sign you're demon possessed:

Quote
The bureau drawer flies open on it's own.

KARRAS
Did you do that?

REGAN/DEMON
Uh Huh.

Karras pushes the drawer back in.

KARRAS
Do it again.

REGAN/DEMON
In time.

KARRAS
No now.

REGAN/DEMON
In time. But mirabile dictu, don't you agree?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 03, 2012, 12:44:26 PM
I lied, I'm posting here again. I appreciate your advice, but the fact that you weren't there and did not experience what I experienced renders your suggestions as ideas.  As far as the adoption laws go, I have read those, but my God is bigger than any government. My God can do anything He wants. I know what God has told me, and I am not backing down. I will not break any laws, but God can do whatever He wants.  I am also not going to apologize for loving two children like my own kids or feeling what a parent feels. I am not going to apologize for love.  I do resent the accusations that I am mental in any way, because they are absolutely baseless and lies.  I have talked with several pastors, who are by definition counselors.  I refuse to go to a counselor who is not a Christian.  I will continue to listen to my God and those who follow His Word.

No one is making fun of you for loving those kids. I think I speak for all of us when I saw what you're doing by supporting them is commendable and shows your heart is in the right place. Those $35 a month you're sending will go a long way to hopefully improving those kids lives. I do think it is a bit much to claim you love them like a parent. You are infatuated with them. You have something you feel you can live for so you're throwing all you have into it. But you don't know what its like to hold a child in your arms, a child you created with someone you love that is part of you. That's a feeling I hope to have one day, but none of us without kids really know that, not you nor me.

My point, and I'm sure several others' is, that what you want to do is not legally possible. You don't just go to Africa and pick two children and call them your kids. You have to go through a huge process, a process you are already barred from even beginning, to adopt those kids and make them yours. Unless you get married before the grandmother dies, it won't happen. I don't care what you think god has told you. I guarantee you 100% the laws will not change miraculously in your favor.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 03, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
You're going to have to eventually deal with non-Christians in this process.  It's probably better for you (and the children) if you talk to a counselor/psychologist/psychiatrist before you start the adoption process.

Think of how devastating it would be to both you and these 2 kids if you were told by the adoption agency halfway through the process that they don't think you're fit to adopt them.

It would spare both you and the children a lot of mental anguish if you find out first if you're emotionally/mentally capable of adopting 2 kids before you start the process.

He's barred from even getting that far. No single male can adopt those children. That law has been in place to prevent sex trafficking and molestation. He would never get past the first step, regardless of what god is telling him.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 03, 2012, 12:59:14 PM
You're going to have to eventually deal with non-Christians in this process.  It's probably better for you (and the children) if you talk to a counselor/psychologist/psychiatrist before you start the adoption process.

Think of how devastating it would be to both you and these 2 kids if you were told by the adoption agency halfway through the process that they don't think you're fit to adopt them.

It would spare both you and the children a lot of mental anguish if you find out first if you're emotionally/mentally capable of adopting 2 kids before you start the process.

He's barred from even getting that far. No single male can adopt those children. That law has been in place to prevent sex trafficking and molestation. He would never get past the first step, regardless of what god is telling him.

With God all things are possible.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 03, 2012, 01:12:35 PM
Not entirely sure what you think God is going to do here...

Gets the laws barring single males from adopting changed? Even if we assume God can do that, why would He have a law that protects against sex trafficking repealed so that one person can adopt two kids? I don't think that two kids being adopted is worth many more kids essentially being adopted as sex slaves. But I guess God has never had a problem giving the a-okay to pointless suffering before.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 03, 2012, 01:26:41 PM
And the writers have found a re-introduce Susan. YAY WRITERS!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 03, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
You're going to have to eventually deal with non-Christians in this process.  It's probably better for you (and the children) if you talk to a counselor/psychologist/psychiatrist before you start the adoption process.

Think of how devastating it would be to both you and these 2 kids if you were told by the adoption agency halfway through the process that they don't think you're fit to adopt them.

It would spare both you and the children a lot of mental anguish if you find out first if you're emotionally/mentally capable of adopting 2 kids before you start the process.

He's barred from even getting that far. No single male can adopt those children. That law has been in place to prevent sex trafficking and molestation. He would never get past the first step, regardless of what god is telling him.

With God all things are possible.

Yes, but why do you think God is specifically going to intervene in this case?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Psychic Octopus on April 03, 2012, 01:42:49 PM
Long time reader, first time commenter!

I think what Bushie is doing is commendable, but yeah, it's forbidden. Perhaps a compromise would be sending more money, maybe $135 instead of $35?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 03, 2012, 02:21:01 PM
Is it possible a demon is at work here? These short, candid responses seem a bit disturbing. Maybe jmfcst is onto something.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on April 03, 2012, 02:28:44 PM
Will Bushie marry a Kenyan to simplify the process?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 03, 2012, 02:32:12 PM
is this what is meant by the term 'going native?'


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 03, 2012, 02:53:35 PM
By the way, BushOK did mention starting his full preparation for the Independence Day holiday very soon...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on April 03, 2012, 02:56:38 PM
He really is going insane. No sane person can: a.) Go to Kenya for a week and then decide that he not only wants to move there but also to become a naturalized citizen, b.) have the utter arrogance to call a couple of kids he barely knows his "children" because he spends a few $ a month on them, c.) not even know the name of one his "children"..., d.) believe that God will magically wave his wand and force the government of Kenya to change the law to give one chap from Oklahoma of all places his two "rightful children"...

Bushie, you may take offense at people suggesting you have issues, but I also find the way you're acting offensive. You don't take advice from people that didn't pray to receive it (basically because that advice is unfavorable to what YOU think you want to do (God has not told you to move to Kenya). You flat out refuse to see a non-Christian professional?

What kind of crazy world do you live in?

Sorry for that rant. I still maintain that you actually do mean well and have good intentions, but you really do seem to have gone off the deep end...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 03, 2012, 03:24:20 PM
Going? To use any language implying that the poster in question has only recently gone off the deep end or just suddenly become stupid is mind boggling.

I can't think of the terms I would like to use for this person but any term I would use normally would be an affront to all those people I usually deem fit for those adjectives.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 03, 2012, 03:55:48 PM
Per advice from a certain poster in authority, I am locking this thread. I'm not getting through to you nor you to me.  I will continue posting sans update.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 08, 2012, 06:46:47 PM
Alright, folks, I can't help myself.  I live a very transparent life as you all know and it kills me not having a place to vent without clogging up other threads.  I'm going to reopen this thread and I will take whatever comments are dished out.  I will take them with a grain of salt, both positive and negative, and I will continue to take the friends who know me face to face more seriously than I take internet strangers.  Just to let you know so I don't get all worked up and so nobody else gets all worked up that I'm not listening to you because while i have poured out my life to you, none of you have ever met me face to face.  I will also say that I will also take the advice I get on facebook at face value.  There are some friends on there whose advice I trust more than others.  I just ask that you guys be civil when it comes to this.  Your advice does have a place in my mind, as well, as it challenges what I believe and usually ends up refining and solidifying what I believe.  There are times that it changes what I believe (such as Ameriplan and ON Company), and there are times when it solidifies what I believe and gets me to think in a different direction.  I promise you one thing, as well, that I will eventually seek professional help for what I'm dealing with.  It may not be immediate, because I can't afford it financially right now, but it will happen.  I had a professional psychologist from my 5th grade year through my 8th grade year to help me deal with my newly diagnosed Tourette's Syndrome.

A word to the moderators, namely Alcon, Inks, and Mikado, I ask that you allow me full reign of this thread.  If I feel it's going down hill too far, I will have enough sense to lock it for a time.  I will probably not lock it permanently, but if it gets too bad, I will lock it temporarily.  I just ask that I be allowed to vent on this thread, and I promise not to take things too seriously.

A word about where this conversation is going to be directed.  I am moving beyond the legality of adopting the children, we've talked about that at length and we've pretty much exhausted that.  I have other things that have developed and is regurgitated from previous episodes.  I will continue to talk about my kids and refer to them as such, but just know that in my heart they are my kids whether they will ever be legally or not.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 08, 2012, 06:49:05 PM
I have other things that have developed and is regurgitated from previous episodes. 
Please elaborate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 08, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Some of you may have already seen on the Opinion of BushOklahoma thread, that while I am still planning to move to Kenya by 1 March 2015, that gives me plenty of time to pursue my Master's of Business Administration at the University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond.  I had already paid for my GMAT exam in Tulsa on Saturday 19 May 2012.  I thought about it, and I am going to follow through with that plan, because what is the worst they can say? No?  I have booked a motel room in Tulsa on Friday night, 18 May 2012 so I can drive up there after work Friday since I have to be at the testing center by 7:00 am that Saturday morning.  It is a 2 hour drive to Tulsa and it is recommended that I get a good breakfast before I take the test, so I would have to leave home by at least 4:00 am and get up at 3:00 am, which is way too early.  So, I'm going up there the night before so I can get a good night's sleep as well.

I'm going to try to get started this August on my MBA courses so I can be done by Spring 2014.  This MBA should help me not only in Kenya, but also if for some reason I have to stay in Oklahoma City longer or wherever else I may end up.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 08, 2012, 08:23:08 PM
Pursuing education is always a great idea and the MBA is a solid degreee- best of luck on the exam


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on April 08, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
Are you going to study for the GMAT or is the magical sky wizard going to grant you a high score?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 08, 2012, 08:48:07 PM
I will study, Nagas.

Thanks, Clarence.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Yelnoc on April 08, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
Good luck, Bushie.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 09, 2012, 06:10:58 AM

Thanks, Yelnoc!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on April 09, 2012, 06:28:03 AM
It's become abundantly obvious after this latest series of events that he has pretty serious mental issues that need psychiatric treatment.

I'm quite sure every 'Opinion of BushOklahoma' poll-thread has this exact same post in it.

It's too bad he locked the thread now, though.  I think jmfcst joining the show was probably our best chance to have our general advice heard. 

He'll either unlock it again or create some equivalent update. He won't be able to resist for long.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 09, 2012, 08:40:33 AM
Still deleting Atlasians from your FB?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 09, 2012, 08:42:24 AM
Still deleting Atlasians from your FB?

Yeah, I'd like to know if anyone else got the ax.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 09, 2012, 08:46:13 AM
Still deleting Atlasians from your FB?

Yeah, I'd like to know if anyone else got the ax.

mitty and I did.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 09, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
Still deleting Atlasians from your FB?

Yeah, I'd like to know if anyone else got the ax.

mitty and I did.

Perhaps it was our love for the finer things in life for you and I.. like booze, women, booze, telling the truth, booze, women with booze.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on April 09, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
I quit myself before I could be axed.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 09, 2012, 09:08:57 AM
Still deleting Atlasians from your FB?

Yeah, I'd like to know if anyone else got the ax.

mitty and I did.
And me. I think Duke as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 09, 2012, 09:32:08 AM
He's deleting all the drunken voices of wisdom! NOOOOOOOO


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 09, 2012, 11:01:54 AM
Update has hit the big time! Npr noticed.
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/09/149394987/when-god-talks-back-to-the-evangelical-community?sc=fb&cc=fp


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 09, 2012, 11:09:58 AM
Update has hit the big time! Npr noticed.
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/09/149394987/when-god-talks-back-to-the-evangelical-community?sc=fb&cc=fp

And you wonder why he axed  you :P   Don't worry friend, I won't deny you :D


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 09, 2012, 11:10:22 AM
Thank God this has been reopened! It truly is an Easter miracle! I can finally return to this forum!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 10, 2012, 07:15:58 AM
Sorry, I didn't provide an update last night, I felt absolutely awful all evening.

I'm still not feeling too well and I'm calling the doctor at 8:00 this morning to see if I can get something for this nausea and vomiting and cramps that I've been having.  I have a feeling the mosquito bites are starting to catch up with me in the form of malaria.  I've got an appointment to get tested for malaria next Monday, 16 April at 13:30, but if I can get into my regular doctor today, I will get tested today and will be able to cancel Monday's appointment.  If I can't get into my regular doctor today, I will go to the Urgent Care this morning about 09:30 or 10:00 and get something to treat whatever I've got and still go to my regular doctor on Monday.

My supervisor has told me not to come back to work until I have a note from the doctor saying I am healthy enough to return to work.  She mentioned to me yesterday that I may end up having to go to the Emergency Room.  It got close to that level last night, but thankfully, I didn't have to go and I was able to go to sleep at 21:00 and slept for nearly 9 hours without having to get up once.

I won't get too graphic about what I've experienced the past 5 days, but just know it hasn't been good.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 10, 2012, 08:21:34 AM
Malaria?  ::)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 10, 2012, 08:26:42 AM

I don't think it is Malaria, but I am going to get tested anyway since I got several dozen mosquito bites in Kenya.  I took Malaria medicine while I was down there and when I got home, but I still would rather be safe than sorry.

My brother seems to think I got a little food poisoning, maybe salmonella or ecoli.

I'm going to the doctor at 11:00 am today to find out what this is, and more importantly, how to get rid of it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 10, 2012, 08:41:47 AM

I don't think it is Malaria, but I am going to get tested anyway since I got several dozen mosquito bites in Kenya.  I took Malaria medicine while I was down there and when I got home, but I still would rather be safe than sorry.

My brother seems to think I got a little food poisoning, maybe salmonella or ecoli.

I'm going to the doctor at 11:00 am today to find out what this is, and more importantly, how to get rid of it.

Your brother's thought seems reasonable.....get better.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Јas on April 10, 2012, 08:42:56 AM
I'm still not feeling too well and I'm calling the doctor at 8:00 this morning to see if I can get something for this nausea and vomiting and cramps that I've been having.  I have a feeling the mosquito bites are starting to catch up with me in the form of malaria.  I've got an appointment to get tested for malaria next Monday, 16 April at 13:30, but if I can get into my regular doctor today, I will get tested today and will be able to cancel Monday's appointment. 

If you've got the wrong strain of malaria you could be dead by next Monday, so it's probably advisable to make sure you get proper medical advice asap.


*Warning*
The preceding advice was not "bathed in prayer", but rather based on one person's understanding of medical "science".


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 10, 2012, 08:46:05 AM
Science is evil and should be punished. Don't listen!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 10, 2012, 10:22:52 AM
If it has lasted more than 24 hours, it isn't likely food poisoning. You should definitely see a doctor. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 10, 2012, 10:43:15 AM
I am at the doctor now for an 11:00 am appointment.  We will see what happens in the next hour or two.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 10, 2012, 11:31:39 AM
Well, I have had my share of food poisoning in the past. It usually takes about 24 hours to clear your body of the infection. I had chills, dizziness, a fever and of course vomiting. If you've had that for more than 24 hours and it didn't all happen at once, it probably isn't food poisoning.

Good luck.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 10, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
I'm home from the doctor and he is not thinking malaria, though he did get some blood to make sure.  He is thinking more along the lines of a parasite.  He took some tests for parasites and I should have those results Thursday.  He told me to stay off work until Friday at the earliest pending the results of the parasite test.  He said he is glad I came in when I did, because now that it is going on 6 days that if I hadn't come in, it could have become real serious and I could have been in a lot more trouble.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 10, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
I've been holding my own this afternoon.  I'm still feeling pretty puny, but I have felt a whole lot worse.  My diet has been reduced to peanut butter and jelly with bread or saltine crackers for the next several days.  It should help me lose weight, though, the real natural way. :P  It's not exactly the way I prefer, but beggars cannot be choosers, right?

Oddly enough, this possible parasite is doing nothing to discourage me from going back to Kenya next March or from moving there in 34 1/2 months.  My body will get used to living in Kenya and will develop some immunity.  It will probably be rough for a while, a few stomach bugs will come and go, but I will get used to it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 10, 2012, 07:07:33 PM
Of course it hasn't. But on a serious note, you wouldn't just drive to the doctors office in Kenya to figure out what was wrong with you. There are a lot of things you're taking for granted now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 10, 2012, 07:20:03 PM
Of course it hasn't. But on a serious note, you wouldn't just drive to the doctors office in Kenya to figure out what was wrong with you. There are a lot of things you're taking for granted now.

mmmhmmm...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 10, 2012, 07:39:28 PM
I've been so confused since I've put Bushie on ignore, but it's fun to try and figure out what is going on in this thread.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 10, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
Of course it hasn't. But on a serious note, you wouldn't just drive to the doctors office in Kenya to figure out what was wrong with you. There are a lot of things you're taking for granted now.
mmmhmmm...

I will not deny that. It will definitely be a major change.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 11, 2012, 06:33:38 AM
i think this tropical malady may be a sign from the big spaghetti monster that pale, overweight foreigners, with tender tummies shouldnt be moving to kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 11, 2012, 07:22:53 AM
i think this tropical malady may be a sign from the big spaghetti monster that pale, overweight foreigners, with tender tummies shouldnt be moving to kenya.

I have signatures turned off.. but may I ask your permission to use this as my new sig? LOL


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 11, 2012, 07:57:28 AM
i think this tropical malady may be a sign from the big spaghetti monster that pale, overweight foreigners, with tender tummies shouldnt be moving to kenya.

I have signatures turned off.. but may I ask your permission to use this as my new sig? LOL

sure.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 11, 2012, 08:26:33 AM
It will be a change. However, I don't think BushKE is really internalizing this. He could DIE early. It isn't just a change you can adapt to. It's a major major change many can't. I know he said he'd die for these kids, but it begs the question, could this be a form of suicide?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 09:05:39 AM
It will be a change. However, I don't think BushKE is really internalizing this. He could DIE early. It isn't just a change you can adapt to. It's a major major change many can't. I know he said he'd die for these kids, but it begs the question, could this be a form of suicide?

I am prepared for whatever comes.

Let me add to this a bit.  I am prepared for whatever comes, but in the final 18 months that I will be in Oklahoma, I will be preparing my body as much as I can nutritionally to keep the effects minimized.  I've had several friends move to Africa in the past several years, not to Kenya, but to South Africa and Cameroon, and they have reported getting sick initially and then their body getting used to it.  I think my body will be no different.  Plus, God is not going to send me to Kenya just to let me die.  He loves me too much for that and He has a purpose for sending me there.  I have faith that God will protect my health so I can be an effective servant for Him in Africa.  I will definitely be putting my life in God's hands, but He is more capable of protecting it than I am, quite frankly.  Putting my life into the hands that created it and the hands that own it is not a bad idea.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 11, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
Are you still deleting Atlasians from  your FB?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
Are you still deleting Atlasians from  your FB?

I haven't in a few days and don't plan to anytime soon.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 11, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
Of course it hasn't. But on a serious note, you wouldn't just drive to the doctors office in Kenya to figure out what was wrong with you. There are a lot of things you're taking for granted now.

Well, if he got a high paying job at Dell (relative to the rest of Kenya) over in Nairobi or something, I doubt it will be a problem. I don't get why people think everyone in Africa and other third world nations are suffering. Money cures a lot of problems......Now if he was planning on living in Kisumu or whatever with no high paying job....that would end badly.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 12:48:20 PM
Of course it hasn't. But on a serious note, you wouldn't just drive to the doctors office in Kenya to figure out what was wrong with you. There are a lot of things you're taking for granted now.

Well, if he got a high paying job at Dell (relative to the rest of Kenya) over in Nairobi or something, I doubt it will be a problem. I don't get why people think everyone in Africa and other third world nations are suffering. Money cures a lot of problems......Now if he was planning on living in Kisumu or whatever with no high paying job....that would end badly.

Nairobi and even parts of Kisumu are closer to second world areas, and the parts of Nairobi we drove through look like lower end first world.  There are a lot of American and European businesses there.  Downtown Kisumu is actually quite nice, there are banks, 24-hour supermarkets, and the like.  It actually reminds me of a higher end second world country.  The part of Kisumu we stayed is definitely lower end second world and where Maisha is located is definite third world for sure.  The slums of both Kisumu and Nairobi are more like fourth world if there is such a thing.  Plus, I've heard from an Oklahoman who moved to Kenya just about 6 years ago that Kisumu and Nairobi actually have decent medical facilities.  It's the more rural areas that leave a lot to be desired.  The Kisumu "Metro" has about as many people as the Oklahoma City metro which is the size of Phoenix or Philadelphia proper, while Nairobi has about as many people as Chicago proper.

I'm not THAT worried about medical care in Africa in either Nairobi or Kisumu.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on April 11, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
Do you believe that God protects people He loves very much from an early death?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 11, 2012, 02:31:22 PM
After the last time I went to Bangladesh, I had mild dysentery for several months. It should be fine.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 11, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
If Kenya doesn't work out, perhaps opebo can give you some tips on white man-friendly places in Thailand to practice your love of children.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 11, 2012, 05:20:34 PM
Bushie, when did the doctor say you can return to work?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Bushie, when did the doctor say you can return to work?

I can return Friday pending the results of the parasite test which I should get tomorrow.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 11, 2012, 05:50:01 PM
It will be a change. However, I don't think BushKE is really internalizing this. He could DIE early. It isn't just a change you can adapt to. It's a major major change many can't. I know he said he'd die for these kids, but it begs the question, could this be a form of suicide?

Plus, God is not going to send me to Kenya just to let me die.  He loves me too much for that and He has a purpose for sending me there.  I have faith that God will protect my health so I can be an effective servant for Him in Africa.  I will definitely be putting my life in God's hands, but He is more capable of protecting it than I am, quite frankly.  Putting my life into the hands that created it and the hands that own it is not a bad idea.

Peter...crucified upside down
Paul...beheaded.
Among others.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 06:19:36 PM
It will be a change. However, I don't think BushKE is really internalizing this. He could DIE early. It isn't just a change you can adapt to. It's a major major change many can't. I know he said he'd die for these kids, but it begs the question, could this be a form of suicide?

Plus, God is not going to send me to Kenya just to let me die.  He loves me too much for that and He has a purpose for sending me there.  I have faith that God will protect my health so I can be an effective servant for Him in Africa.  I will definitely be putting my life in God's hands, but He is more capable of protecting it than I am, quite frankly.  Putting my life into the hands that created it and the hands that own it is not a bad idea.

Peter...crucified upside down
Paul...beheaded.
Among others.



I know those, and it doesn't always happen, because my life is not my own, anyway.  God owns the "deed" to my life.  If He decides to take me out early, then so be it, I'm ready.  If He decides to keep me around for a while, I'm prepared for that, as well.  That goes for wherever I'm at, Oklahoma, Kenya, or elsewhere.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
A little update on my condition as of 18:30 11 Apr 2012.  I've been awake since 08:00 and I am feeling a little better.  Other than when I first woke up, I have only had to go to the bathroom once and that was just at 18:00, so I went 10 hours without having to make a major trip.  I haven't thrown up at all today, which is a blessing.  I have had quite a bit of nausea today with a moderate headache thrown in the mix.  The nausea hasn't produced anything, though, thankfully, except discomfort.  I think i am getting on the back side of this crud and pending the results of the parasite test which should come tomorrow, I should be able to go to work on Friday.  Naturally, I am praying that the results of the parasite test are negative, because I do not want to miss any more work.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 11, 2012, 06:35:47 PM
Glad you are feeling better- going across the world can take quite a toll...I had a nasty parasite which started wreakng havoc on my innards after I got back stateside after my first tour in Vietnam...lost nearly 20 lbs in two weeks


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 06:37:50 PM
Glad you are feeling better- going across the world can take quite a toll...I had a nasty parasite which started wreakng havoc on my innards after I got back stateside after my first tour in Vietnam...lost nearly 20 lbs in two weeks

I've already lost 5 in the week I've had mine.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 11, 2012, 08:25:59 PM
8:20 pm Update: I have been feeling better in the past two hours. I took some Dramamine at 6:00 pm and that has eased up the nausea. I've only gone to the bathroom one time all day other than the normal time after I woke up this morning. I haven't thrown up all day. I only have a slight headache. The biggest thing I have now is fatigue. My body is tired after all its been through in the past 7 days. I will probably go to bed by 9:30 or 10:00 tonight. If I were allowed to, I would be going to work tomorrow. However, my doctor's note says to go back on Friday, so I will honor what the note says and go back then.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 11, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
8:20 pm Update: I have been feeling better in the past two hours. I took some Dramamine at 6:00 pm and that has eased up the nausea. I've only gone to the bathroom one time all day other than the normal time after I woke up this morning. I haven't thrown up all day. I only have a slight headache. The biggest thing I have now is fatigue. My body is tired after all its been through in the past 7 days. I will probably go to bed by 9:30 or 10:00 tonight. If I were allowed to, I would be going to work tomorrow. However, my doctor's note says to go back on Friday, so I will honor what the note says and go back then.

I'm guessing your work wouldn't let you return before then.  They'd probably send you home (at least if they have a competent HR department who actually reads doctors' notes).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 12, 2012, 12:34:55 AM
Update has hit the big time! Npr noticed.
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/09/149394987/when-god-talks-back-to-the-evangelical-community?sc=fb&cc=fp

Ha funny, I go to a Vineyard church. The article doesn't make it sound like it's as full of hipsters as it is, but the reporting is otherwise pretty accurate. Plenty of people do indeed act like that, and no it doesn't come across as creepy or weird, I'm not surprised she was charmed and endeared by it. Having read it a bit more in-depth, that's actually one of the most accurate articles I've seen, it's really awesome how she both noted the focus not being on the fire and brimstone stuff and the wide range of opinions that exist, including liberal ones. Kudos to that researcher.

Oh and this is a unique new arc. The writers kind of came out of left field with this one.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 06:51:45 AM
8:20 pm Update: I have been feeling better in the past two hours. I took some Dramamine at 6:00 pm and that has eased up the nausea. I've only gone to the bathroom one time all day other than the normal time after I woke up this morning. I haven't thrown up all day. I only have a slight headache. The biggest thing I have now is fatigue. My body is tired after all its been through in the past 7 days. I will probably go to bed by 9:30 or 10:00 tonight. If I were allowed to, I would be going to work tomorrow. However, my doctor's note says to go back on Friday, so I will honor what the note says and go back then.

I'm guessing your work wouldn't let you return before then.  They'd probably send you home (at least if they have a competent HR department who actually reads doctors' notes).

Exactly, that's why I'm not going into work today.  I feel like I could go to work today, but for liabilty issues, I cannot return until the doctor's note says to, which is tomorrow, and that is dependent on the results of the parasite test which I should find out today.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 12, 2012, 08:47:49 AM
Not that it was a particularly difficult thing to see coming, but I did predict this:

More likely, he's praying to Jesus to help him recover from gastro issues.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 08:49:17 AM
Not that it was a particularly difficult thing to see coming, but I did predict this:

More likely, he's praying to Jesus to help him recover from gastro issues.

And, you know what?  It is working. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 12, 2012, 02:23:08 PM
Not that it was a particularly difficult thing to see coming, but I did predict this:

More likely, he's praying to Jesus to help him recover from gastro issues.

And, you know what?  It is working. :)

Or you're just recovering from the natural progression of whatever you had.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
Not that it was a particularly difficult thing to see coming, but I did predict this:

More likely, he's praying to Jesus to help him recover from gastro issues.

And, you know what?  It is working. :)

Or you're just recovering from the natural progression of whatever you had.

Maybe, but prayer certainly played a part in the recovery.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 12, 2012, 04:12:04 PM
Not that it was a particularly difficult thing to see coming, but I did predict this:

More likely, he's praying to Jesus to help him recover from gastro issues.

And, you know what?  It is working. :)

Or you're just recovering from the natural progression of whatever you had.

Maybe, but prayer certainly played a part in the recovery.

You don't know that it "certainly" did.  Sometimes God chooses not to intervene.  There's no way you can possibly claim what your prayers did or did not accomplish.  To do so would be to claim to know God's thoughts.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 04:50:27 PM
Just called the doctor, and the news is not quite as good as I had hoped. She said they have the results, but they are looking over them to determine what's going on and will give me a call in the morning. It makes me think there is something there, because in my limited medical knowledge they could tell right away if there was nothing there. I am going to stay home for a couple hours in the morning and talk to the doctor in privacy and then I may go in for the rest of the day depending on what the results of the test are. Keep praying!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 12, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
Did you get Amy shots before you went to Kenya? Don't they require you be given some shots for certain diseases. Sometimes it just means they were lazy and other times it means they don't know what you might have.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
They required Yellow Fever and Tetanus and those are the shots I got.  I didn't get the recommended Hepatitis A shots or Typhoid Fever Shots because I couldn't afford them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 12, 2012, 06:14:03 PM
Did you stick strictly to bottled water there? And not eat uncooked fruits and vegetables that may have been washed by tap water? It's the water that will get you every time. When I go to India, I eat almost everything, including street food if it's cooked well and doesn't have dairy. But I'm a huge stickler about the water. I probably look like a douche carrying a water bottle around with me all the time (more cost effective to just boil water at home, a luxury you may not have in Kenya) but I don't care.

Anyways, I hope it's not Hep A and just a parasite.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 12, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
Just called the doctor, and the news is not quite as good as I had hoped. She said they have the results, but they are looking over them to determine what's going on and will give me a call in the morning. It makes me think there is something there, because in my limited medical knowledge they could tell right away if there was nothing there. I am going to stay home for a couple hours in the morning and talk to the doctor in privacy and then I may go in for the rest of the day depending on what the results of the test are. Keep praying!!

2 hours ago you were certain you were recovering...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 06:23:10 PM
Did you stick strictly to bottled water there? And not eat uncooked fruits and vegetables that may have been washed by tap water? It's the water that will get you every time. When I go to India, I eat almost everything, including street food if it's cooked well and doesn't have dairy. But I'm a huge stickler about the water. I probably look like a douche carrying a water bottle around with me all the time (more cost effective to just boil water at home, a luxury you may not have in Kenya) but I don't care.

Anyways, I hope it's not Hep A and just a parasite.

The only tap water I came into contact was to take a shower.  That alone is enough to transmit a parasite as it can get into your skin.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 06:24:58 PM
Just called the doctor, and the news is not quite as good as I had hoped. She said they have the results, but they are looking over them to determine what's going on and will give me a call in the morning. It makes me think there is something there, because in my limited medical knowledge they could tell right away if there was nothing there. I am going to stay home for a couple hours in the morning and talk to the doctor in privacy and then I may go in for the rest of the day depending on what the results of the test are. Keep praying!!

2 hours ago you were certain you were recovering...

And, I do feel better, so I am certain I am recovering, its just the somewhat unnerving news I got from the doctor this afternoon.  I'm trying not to jump to any conclusions, because I am not a nurse or a doctor, but it would just be nice to know what I've got so I can either get started on the treatment or be cleared.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 12, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
Just called the doctor, and the news is not quite as good as I had hoped. She said they have the results, but they are looking over them to determine what's going on and will give me a call in the morning. It makes me think there is something there, because in my limited medical knowledge they could tell right away if there was nothing there. I am going to stay home for a couple hours in the morning and talk to the doctor in privacy and then I may go in for the rest of the day depending on what the results of the test are. Keep praying!!

2 hours ago you were certain you were recovering...

And, I do feel better, so I am certain I am recovering, its just the somewhat unnerving news I got from the doctor this afternoon.  I'm trying not to jump to any conclusions, because I am not a nurse or a doctor, but it would just be nice to know what I've got so I can either get started on the treatment or be cleared.

Exactly... because you're not a doctor, you shouldn't be jumping to the conclusion that you're  recovering just because you temporarily feel better.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 12, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
Did you stick strictly to bottled water there? And not eat uncooked fruits and vegetables that may have been washed by tap water? It's the water that will get you every time. When I go to India, I eat almost everything, including street food if it's cooked well and doesn't have dairy. But I'm a huge stickler about the water. I probably look like a douche carrying a water bottle around with me all the time (more cost effective to just boil water at home, a luxury you may not have in Kenya) but I don't care.

Anyways, I hope it's not Hep A and just a parasite.

The only tap water I came into contact was to take a shower.  That alone is enough to transmit a parasite as it can get into your skin.

Well, that would be odd. Though I suppose it's possible, the more likely route would have been through uncooked vegetables like in a salad perhaps?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 06:34:51 PM
And, that's the tough part, Inks.  I'm trying to keep an open mind when it comes to whatever result I may get tomorrow morning.  I think I'm getting better, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion, either, until I hear one way or the other.  I'm just trying to think positive more than anything, because I want to get back to work soon.  Plus, I have a birthday coming up in 2 weeks and the last thing I want is to be sick on my birthday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Did you stick strictly to bottled water there? And not eat uncooked fruits and vegetables that may have been washed by tap water? It's the water that will get you every time. When I go to India, I eat almost everything, including street food if it's cooked well and doesn't have dairy. But I'm a huge stickler about the water. I probably look like a douche carrying a water bottle around with me all the time (more cost effective to just boil water at home, a luxury you may not have in Kenya) but I don't care.

Anyways, I hope it's not Hep A and just a parasite.

The only tap water I came into contact was to take a shower.  That alone is enough to transmit a parasite as it can get into your skin.

Well, that would be odd. Though I suppose it's possible, the more likely route would have been through uncooked vegetables like in a salad perhaps?

I don't generally eat salad, so that's probably not the reason.  Who knows, it could be anything.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 12, 2012, 06:36:41 PM
Yes, better to wait for the results.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 06:53:50 PM

Thats what I plan on doing!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 07:42:41 PM
One of my friends on facebook who is a nurse told me that the fact that they are waiting until morning to tell me is a good sign since they didn't tell me to go to the ER.  The lack of urgency may be a good sign itself. Fact is, I do not need to jump to any conclusions either good or bad.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 12, 2012, 07:46:08 PM
Are you worried about losing your job?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
Are you worried about losing your job?

No, because I will be going back just as soon as I hear from the doctor tomorrow.

Plus, my supervisor has been in my shoes before. She had this same experience coming back from Mexico. She and I have developed a really good rapport.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
Here is my timeline for tomorrow. I am going to go in 90 minutes after I hear from the doctor with the latest arrival time being 13:00 to give me 4 hours of work. So, if I don't hear by 11:30, I will just take it into the weekend and get ready for Week 6 on Monday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 12, 2012, 08:29:21 PM
Will they allow you back even if they aren't aware of  you being cleared? Wont they need some documentation?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 12, 2012, 09:27:09 PM
Will they allow you back even if they aren't aware of  you being cleared? Wont they need some documentation?

The doctor's note I got on Tuesday says I can go back 4/13/2012 which is tomorrow.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 10:14:07 AM
It is 10:10 am Friday and I still have not heard anything.  The consensus among myself, my parents, my grandmother, and most importantly, my boss, is that if I haven't heard anything by 10:30, then I'm just going to take it into the weekend and get ready to go back to work Monday Morning at 08:00.  I want to give myself a 90 minute window to get to work today, and I want to be there no later than noon because I feel that its not really worth it to go in for less than half a day with the cost of gas where it is.  If I haven't heard anything by 11:30, I will call the doctor and see if I can stir the pot a little bit.

I am feeling much, much better this morning, though, and I'm not really worried about what I'm going to hear, but it would be nice to get some closure.

I will keep you posted.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 13, 2012, 10:24:46 AM
Wait, your earlier post said you have a doctor's note..... ????


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 10:31:00 AM
Wait, your earlier post said you have a doctor's note..... ????

I do, but my boss and I talked yesterday evening that she wants me to be able to talk to the doctor from the privacy of my own home instead of blaring my medical history to my coworkers and be distracted by background noise.  I still haven't heard from the doctor.  I can go in today, but by now, it's 10:30, and it just wouldn't be worth the gas money to go into work.  So, I'm going to stay home the rest of the afternoon and take this into the weekend.

The note says I can go back today, but I thought I would hear from the doctor yesterday, but it is 10:30 Friday morning and I still haven't heard, so due to HIPPA laws and regulations, my boss wants me to stay home until I hear something.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 13, 2012, 10:34:38 AM
I do, but my boss and I talked yesterday evening that she wants me to be able to talk to the doctor from the privacy of my own home instead of blaring my medical history to my coworkers and be distracted by background noise. 

Ever heard of ducking into an unoccupied conference room for privacy?  ...I would highly advise not to miss any more work, seeing that you are new there and all.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on April 13, 2012, 10:37:26 AM
how do you interpret God's decision to make you physically ill as regards the prospect of moving to Kenya in 2013?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 13, 2012, 10:38:20 AM
I do, but my boss and I talked yesterday evening that she wants me to be able to talk to the doctor from the privacy of my own home instead of blaring my medical history to my coworkers and be distracted by background noise. 

Ever heard of ducking into an unoccupied conference room for privacy?  ...I would highly advise not to miss any more work, seeing that you are new there and all.

BushOklahoma's aversion to doing things that are simple common sense is hardly new.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
I do, but my boss and I talked yesterday evening that she wants me to be able to talk to the doctor from the privacy of my own home instead of blaring my medical history to my coworkers and be distracted by background noise.

Ever heard of ducking into an unoccupied conference room for privacy?  ...I would highly advise not to miss any more work, seeing that you are new there and all.

That's next to impossible in a call center environment.  Plus, if I'm on the phone with a customer, I can't exactly tell the customer to hold on while I talk to my doctor.  I would then have to call the scheduler back, leave a message for the nurse to call me back and begin the cycle again.  Believe, I've thought about that, but the type of work environment I'm in makes it next to impossible.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 10:40:41 AM
how do you interpret God's decision to make you physically ill as regards the prospect of moving to Kenya in 2013?

First off, I'm not moving until 2015, but it hasn't phased my thought process at all.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 13, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
how do you interpret God's decision to make you physically ill as regards the prospect of moving to Kenya in 2013?

First off, I'm not moving until 2015, but it hasn't phased my thought process at all.

But really, you should interpret it as a sign from god that you should not move to Kenya. God is trying to tell you something Bushie.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 13, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
I didn't get the recommended Hepatitis A shots or Typhoid Fever Shots because I couldn't afford them.

What a ridiculous country.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 13, 2012, 11:26:16 AM
I do, but my boss and I talked yesterday evening that she wants me to be able to talk to the doctor from the privacy of my own home instead of blaring my medical history to my coworkers and be distracted by background noise.

Ever heard of ducking into an unoccupied conference room for privacy?  ...I would highly advise not to miss any more work, seeing that you are new there and all.

That's next to impossible in a call center environment.  

What? I work in a call center and we have private meetings all the time. Your center seriously has no separate rooms or offices from the main floor?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on April 13, 2012, 11:28:52 AM
I didn't get the recommended Hepatitis A shots or Typhoid Fever Shots because I couldn't afford them.

What a ridiculous country.

you're too kind man.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 11:29:27 AM
how do you interpret God's decision to make you physically ill as regards the prospect of moving to Kenya in 2013?

First off, I'm not moving until 2015, but it hasn't phased my thought process at all.

But really, you should interpret it as a sign from god that you should not move to Kenya. God is trying to tell you something Bushie.

He is trying to tell me something, and that is I have to be totally dependent on Him and to completely trust Him in everything.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 11:31:16 AM
I do, but my boss and I talked yesterday evening that she wants me to be able to talk to the doctor from the privacy of my own home instead of blaring my medical history to my coworkers and be distracted by background noise.

Ever heard of ducking into an unoccupied conference room for privacy?  ...I would highly advise not to miss any more work, seeing that you are new there and all.

That's next to impossible in a call center environment. 

What? I work in a call center and we have private meetings all the time. Your center seriously has no separate rooms or offices from the main floor?

We have separate conference rooms, but if I'm on a call with a customer, I can't exactly tell the customer to hang on while I talk to my doctor.  I can't wait in a conference room for a call that I don't know when its going to come and I can't call and speak directly to the nurse.  I have to call the scheduler and have the nurse call me back.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 13, 2012, 11:32:20 AM
He is trying to tell me something, and that is I have to be totally dependent on Him and to completely trust Him in everything.

then why don't you actually trust him to actually speak to you whenever he actually wants you do something?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 13, 2012, 11:48:52 AM
how do you interpret God's decision to make you physically ill as regards the prospect of moving to Kenya in 2013?

First off, I'm not moving until 2015, but it hasn't phased my thought process at all.

But really, you should interpret it as a sign from god that you should not move to Kenya. God is trying to tell you something Bushie.

He is trying to tell me something, and that is I have to be totally dependent on Him and to completely trust Him in everything.

Yes, and you should trust her when she is trying to show you what could happen to you on a regular basis if you live in Kenya. That is one of the hardships you could face. Even if you get a good job there, the pay will be nothing like what you get here in America. You may be able to access basic needs, including healthcare, but things that are sold on a world market like cars could become out of your reach. And things that make our life more comfortable here in America like dishwashers may not be so common in Kenya. I think you are doing a great deed by helping those kids in Kenya and god wants you to continue doing that. But it is obvious you can do more good by staying in Oklahoma and sending money, perhaps even more than you are sending now, than by moving to Kenya. Again, there with your lower salary and after satisfying your needs, you may not have enough left over to send to these charities. God doesn't want you to move Bushie.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 12:11:11 PM
I still haven't heard anything now and it's afternoon.  I have decided a long time ago that I am going into work at 08:00 Monday morning regardless if I hear anything today or not.  They can just call and leave a message on my cell phone.  I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe the test got delayed a little bit, unless they're waiting on the malaria test to come back as well so they can tell me both results at the same time.  I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt today, but I cannot wait any longer, I have to go to work at 08:00 on Monday morning.  I am no longer going to worry about it, I'm going to leave it in God's hands because He can handle it much better than I can and I'm going to get on with my weekend and enjoy it now that I am able again to eat normal food and get ready for Church Sunday Morning and get ready for Week 6 of my Permanent Career on Monday.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 13, 2012, 12:56:56 PM
So you're going to risk infecting your co-workers?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 13, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
So you're going to risk infecting your co-workers?

The big man will protect those who need protecting.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 13, 2012, 02:35:54 PM
So let me get this straight...

What Bushie wants is what God wants. In other words whatever impulsive desire of the week or month can be justified if "God wills it."

Yet what more reasonable people would do in his shoes...no weight whatsoever.

Give up folks.  It's impossible to protect stupid people, being generous, from themselves.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 13, 2012, 03:11:52 PM
God speaking to him is his way of justifying all of these things. I am still going with demonic possession. I think that plot line might be the least explored of the series. Perhaps the sickness he has suffered from is a result of it?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
Hallelujah!! My boss just called me at 2:30 pm and gave me the opportunity to work overtime tomorrow and Sunday 8-5 to make up for the three days of pay I missed this week. :) So, tomorrow, if I feel like it, I will be going into work. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on April 13, 2012, 03:19:33 PM
So you're going to risk infecting your co-workers?

Malaria is spread not by humans, but by a certain insect, so in this one instance, Bushie is not doing something that is at once reckless, impulsive, self indulgent, rationalized to death, unrealistic, counterproductive, and doomed to failure and disappointment.

I need to give Jesus a ring, and tell him to stop enabling Bushie, or I am going to go up there and kick his butt. I don't have much patience with enablers - never have.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 13, 2012, 04:29:50 PM
My favorite part is that he sees God's signs in everything, but being stricken with a deathly illness at the thought of moving to Kenya is not a sign from God.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 13, 2012, 06:31:12 PM
did i miss the results of the testing?

are they going to make us wait until next week's episode.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 13, 2012, 09:09:47 PM
Unfortunately, Walter, yes, we'll have to wait until Monday's episode to find out the results of the test.  However, I am still going into work tomorrow unless I'm up all night dodging tornadoes.  We have tornadic thunderstorms to our southwest that look like either an hour or so away.  We are under a tornado watch until 04:00 am, so we have a ways to go.  I may need to use tomorrow to get my rest as we're expecting an even worse night tomorrow night that could last well into the night.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 13, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
The funny thing is looking at it from a charismatic perspective, the people who put the most emphasis on God talking to them (see memphis' link a few pages back, as noted my church belongs to that movement), I think most would conclude that God is actually talking through us to BushOklahoma to save him from his own reckless, bad decisions. This is something talked about at my church a lot, listen to your family and friends because it may be God speaking through them. Imagine if he listened to us in regards to all those scams in 2010. I mean if you believe both that God exists and is involved in human affairs, as BushOklahoma clearly does (and I do too), that's a more logical way of thinking than his way of simply that he should do whatever his first inclination is and God will make things work for him.

I mean I try to avoid saying anything comes from God or someone speaks for God always because of unfortunate implications and obvious reasons (as one of the pastors put it, "anyone who claims that they always know the voice of God speaking to them is probably a sociopath"), so I won't say that's what happened (there's one recent event in my life where I don't have any doubt God was speaking to me through someone, but that's a completely different situation), but it does make more sense if you accept that theology than what Bushie believes. So it is all the more amusing how he continues to ignore all the advice given despite the fact that we've basically been right and he's been wrong every single time.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 14, 2012, 01:35:17 AM
Unfortunately, Walter, yes, we'll have to wait until Monday's episode to find out the results of the test.  However, I am still going into work tomorrow unless I'm up all night dodging tornadoes.  We have tornadic thunderstorms to our southwest that look like either an hour or so away.  We are under a tornado watch until 04:00 am, so we have a ways to go.  I may need to use tomorrow to get my rest as we're expecting an even worse night tomorrow night that could last well into the night.

Wait....   How in the f*** did we go from going to work Monday to now going to work tomorrow??


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 14, 2012, 06:00:00 AM
Unfortunately, Walter, yes, we'll have to wait until Monday's episode to find out the results of the test.  However, I am still going into work tomorrow unless I'm up all night dodging tornadoes.  We have tornadic thunderstorms to our southwest that look like either an hour or so away.  We are under a tornado watch until 04:00 am, so we have a ways to go.  I may need to use tomorrow to get my rest as we're expecting an even worse night tomorrow night that could last well into the night.

Wait....   How in the f*** did we go from going to work Monday to now going to work tomorrow??

My boss called me with OT opportunities today and tomorrow.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 14, 2012, 12:33:33 PM
I think it's reprehensible and very un-Christian of you to risk others health.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 14, 2012, 01:59:53 PM
I think it's reprehensible and very un-Christian of you to risk others health.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 14, 2012, 02:09:48 PM
Haha, well guys, you don't have to worry about that this weekend.  They cancelled OT on me at the last minute and now I am supposed to go in at 08:00 Monday Morning.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 14, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
I wasn't joking.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 14, 2012, 02:26:23 PM

I wasn't either


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 14, 2012, 07:25:57 PM
Haha, well guys, you don't have to worry about that this weekend.  They cancelled OT on me at the last minute and now I am supposed to go in at 08:00 Monday Morning.

How would it have been OT if you haven't been at work in days??


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 14, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
Haha, well guys, you don't have to worry about that this weekend.  They cancelled OT on me at the last minute and now I am supposed to go in at 08:00 Monday Morning.

How would it have been OT if you haven't been at work in days??

The new work week begins on Saturday at Dell.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 14, 2012, 09:31:17 PM
Haha, well guys, you don't have to worry about that this weekend.  They cancelled OT on me at the last minute and now I am supposed to go in at 08:00 Monday Morning.

How would it have been OT if you haven't been at work in days??

The new work week begins on Saturday at Dell.

Not to be nit picky, but until you actually work the rest of the week it doesn't yet count as OT, especially considering your health situation.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 14, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Haha, well guys, you don't have to worry about that this weekend.  They cancelled OT on me at the last minute and now I am supposed to go in at 08:00 Monday Morning.

How would it have been OT if you haven't been at work in days??

The new work week begins on Saturday at Dell.

Not to be nit picky, but until you actually work the rest of the week it doesn't yet count as OT, especially considering your health situation.

Right, it wouldn't have been officially overtime until Thursday and Friday, but now since the OT was cancelled today, I will one hour of OT between 4:00-5:00 pm Friday because of the hour I worked this morning before they cancelled OT.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 15, 2012, 11:18:14 AM
am i the only one getting the feeling that bushie is screwing up on this job?

i definitely not trying to be mean...but bushie you seem to be sick a lot.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 15, 2012, 11:20:42 AM
am i the only one getting the feeling that bushie is screwing up on this job?

i definitely not trying to be mean...but bushie you seem to be sick a lot.

Not the only one.  I'm surprised they haven't pink slipped him already.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 15, 2012, 12:55:15 PM
am i the only one getting the feeling that bushie is screwing up on this job?

i definitely not trying to be mean...but bushie you seem to be sick a lot.

Not the only one.  I'm surprised they haven't pink slipped him already.

It's because they can get around a year out of him. Since he is now a "employee" of Dell, they can have him work for about 6 months, than fire him and not have to pay unemployment, and start the process all over again.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 15, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
am i the only one getting the feeling that bushie is screwing up on this job?

i definitely not trying to be mean...but bushie you seem to be sick a lot.

Not the only one.  I'm surprised they haven't pink slipped him already.

It's because they can get around a year out of him. Since he is now a "employee" of Dell, they can have him work for about 6 months, than fire him and not have to pay unemployment, and start the process all over again.

But what are they really getting out of him?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 15, 2012, 05:24:25 PM
Just work, that's it. I've heard cases on a lot from fairly high known companies that will practice these kinds of operations for call centers and help desks. They will have someone come in as a temp, and if they hire them they keep them for the 6 months, and fire. That way, they don't pay unemployment, and sometimes don't have to pay insurance.  It's pretty sad that they do it, but there is nothing illegal about it. As long as they have reasoning for the termination, they are in the clear.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: J-Mann on April 15, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
The funny thing is looking at it from a charismatic perspective, the people who put the most emphasis on God talking to them (see memphis' link a few pages back, as noted my church belongs to that movement), I think most would conclude that God is actually talking through us to BushOklahoma to save him from his own reckless, bad decisions. This is something talked about at my church a lot, listen to your family and friends because it may be God speaking through them. Imagine if he listened to us in regards to all those scams in 2010. I mean if you believe both that God exists and is involved in human affairs, as BushOklahoma clearly does (and I do too), that's a more logical way of thinking than his way of simply that he should do whatever his first inclination is and God will make things work for him.

I mean I try to avoid saying anything comes from God or someone speaks for God always because of unfortunate implications and obvious reasons (as one of the pastors put it, "anyone who claims that they always know the voice of God speaking to them is probably a sociopath"), so I won't say that's what happened (there's one recent event in my life where I don't have any doubt God was speaking to me through someone, but that's a completely different situation), but it does make more sense if you accept that theology than what Bushie believes. So it is all the more amusing how he continues to ignore all the advice given despite the fact that we've basically been right and he's been wrong every single time.

That's a very interesting ... and sensible, if you believe in God ... way of looking at it. Jeff, why is it that going on gut feeling strikes you as the work of God, but advice from the folks here (which has been incredibly sound again and again) is characterized as essentially "un-Christian?" I think BRTD has a great point -- the feedback you're receiving here may very well be God speaking to you, and your willingness to share about your life is God speaking through you to us, requesting our help to set you on a different path.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: J-Mann on April 15, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
am i the only one getting the feeling that bushie is screwing up on this job?

i definitely not trying to be mean...but bushie you seem to be sick a lot.

I'm worried as well. As an employer, I do have a certain amount of sympathy for unavoidable illnesses, but there are limits to my tolerance in the first few weeks on the job. I suppose that Jeff has his ducks in a row on this, though, with doctor's notes and whatnot.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 15, 2012, 08:37:08 PM
J-Mann, I do read the advice that is given and I do think about it.  Just because I dismiss it as "un-Christian", I am not totally rejecting it.  I do agree that sometimes God speaks through the forum.  He has on several occasions.  There are too many to name, as a matter of fact.  That's why I reopened the thread last week.  However, I will say that God has spoken to me in many other ways and I disagree that everything i've mentioned in the last 3 weeks is a "gut reaction."  I know without a doubt I am supposed to move to Kenya in 34 months.  I know that while I may not legally be able to adopt these kids, I am still their father and still love them like they are my children and I am going to do everything I can to make sure they have as great of a life as possible and make sure above all things that they know the Lord Jesus Christ personally.

As far as my job is concerned.  I am fine.  My leave was just activated this past Friday, so I've technically only used one day of sick leave.  The other days have been unpaid.  Today, though, I have felt better than I have in almost 2 weeks.  I will have no problems going to work in the morning and no problems going to work all week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 16, 2012, 12:13:10 AM
I was bathing myself in prayer until 3am last night for Easter, and I came away with some perspective. I am by no means an evangelical born again christian. I am greek so we were born with this religion built into our culture whether we like it or not, so I am inclined to speak about Jesus just this once.

First of all, it is difficult for us as humans to interpret what god is saying to us. Anyone who claims they have it all figured out and knows exactly what god wants and what he doesn't is just lying to themselves. I don't believe god is a two year old that is continuing to tell BushOK to just backup and change career paths for a scam, move to Kenya and the like. That is in his mind. HE was given a mind by god and god gave us free will to make our own decisions in our lives. Some people say god guides us or speaks to us through certain events or actions or people. That may be true. It may not be. But I am confident that all these feelings BushOK gets are not all god talking to him. If BushOK is the pipeline to god, he must be some sort of deity and we need to bow down and worship him.

Throughout this whole saga, this forum has given sound advice that I think god himself would approve of. It wasn't followed because BushOK had the FREE WILL to make his own choice, and he did so.

I am not a devout christian by any means. Lord knows I have sinned during my lifetime and I will continue to sin, but if god does exist, I doubt he is up there micromanaging each and every life and "thinking" for us. I also doubt he is talking to us constantly. As humans, we have urges and thoughts that we come up with on our own. This whole Kenya fiasco is just that.

In reality, BushOK could help these kids much more by living in the US, making a generous wage here, and sending them the money they so desperately need. He isn't telling him to pick up and move to Kenya when he clearly isn't healthy enough or adventurous enough to do so, and it is really sickening to suggest he wants to send you to die in Kenya for these kids. He also isn't telling him he is the father of these kids. THey had a father somewhere. He is simply a good Samaritan helping with them. Do it for them, not to call yourself a father. Being a father isn't sending $35 a week and writing once a month. But it would be selfish to move to Kenya for these kids where you'll make less money  and may not be able to support them as well as you could from here. Think about it. This shouldn't be about you. It's about the kids!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 16, 2012, 06:02:48 PM
bushie did you ever get the test results?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 16, 2012, 06:46:34 PM
yes, the results came in this morning, and they were all negative.  Everything is normal.

I was able to put in a full day of work and I still feel great!  I should easily be able to take on the last 4 days of the week.  I am back to normal.  I am also back to normal food, although, I am staying away from Mexican Food and Pizza for a while longer just to be safe.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 16, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
I am glad you are feeling better


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 17, 2012, 06:45:28 AM
One thing I've noticed is that while I am physicially better, this crud I had, whatever it was, really taxed my body and left me very tired.  I went to bed before 8:00 last night because I was so exhausted.  I will probably go to bed a little early each night the rest of the week.  I don't think I'll go to bed before 8:00, but probably by 9:00 or 9:30 each night is definitely not out of the question.  I have to do everything I can to make sure I go to work all 40 hours this week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 17, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
Wow, 1000 replies on this thread!!  Thanks, guys!!

Anyway, I have now completed 2 straight days of work and I am feeling much better.  I still have occasional flare ups, especially the past 30 hours, but I am not missing any work and will not miss any work.  I started getting a headache about 11:00 am today, but I took some medicine and asked the Lord to take it away because I could not afford to have a headache interfere with my work.  Wouldn't you know, that by 11:30, it was gone.

Tomorrow night, I am having church with my fellow Kenya missionaries that went with us last month.  I am also meeting with them at the Maisha headquarters in Downtown Oklahoma City on Saturday, 5 May along with the next team that is going, I believe, in June.  I have 10 3/4 months until I return home for a visit and see my kids!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 17, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
I can't help myself - NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT! - In 34 days on Monday, 21 May 2012, I will be beginning to do some Christmas Decoration Shopping. Hobby Lobby in Midwest City will start dedicating a half an aisle to Christmas Decorations in late May right before Memorial Day. I am about 3 months away from breaking out the Christmas Carols and just 6 months from this Thursday, 19 April 2012 from full house decorating!! Face it, I am already starting to think in that direction. Mr. Christmas is back!! 251 days!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 18, 2012, 09:38:52 PM
I had a really good day at work again today, now my 3rd day back at work.

I was in training for most of the day and only took 4 calls, but it was a nice change of pace.  I've got two more days of work this week and seven more until my 30th birthday!

This evening I had the privilege of seeing my Kenya team members for a little while and worship with them.  We had a wonderful time of fellowship and sharing to the church the stories of how God blessed us while we were down there.  I met up with the Kenya Team Coordinator and told her, for the first time face to face, what God has called me to do in 3 years by moving to Kenya.  She had read it in emails, but this is the first time I've seen her since we got home.  She wants me to come to her office in Downtown OKlahoma City after my birthday and talk with her and her assistant face to face where we can discuss at length and pray about it and brainstorm and get a game plan and a prayer plan together for the eventual move to Kenya.  From just the 5 minutes I was able to speak with her this evening, she is very excited about it and since she is a native of Kisumu, Kenya, she will be able to give me great insight as to the logistics of the move and stuff like that.

I left that church building this evening very encouraged.

God sometimes calls us to do radical things, and this is no different.  In the Bible, He told Moses' successor Joshua to march around the city of Jericho six times and on the seventh trip around the city to shout at the top of their lungs and the walls of the city fell and the Israelites, under the leadership of Joshua, conquered Jericho.  In more "recent" terms, He told George Washington to break away from the King of England and start a revolution to gain independence for 13 little, insignificant colonies detached from the rest of the word by copious amounts of water, which he knew if it failed, it would be his neck, literally.  That was a bold initiative directed and orchestrated and planned by none other than God Himself.  True, a lot of the founding fathers were Deists, such as Thomas Jefferson, who did not believe in the resurrection, but God still used them to give birth to this nation we call the United States of America.  Those are just two examples of how God occasionally calls people to do crazy things.  I'm not saying my calling is to conquer a city or to give birth to a nation, but it doesn't make it any less important.  Even if I just give a cup of cold water to my neighbor, that has the same importance in the Kingdom of Heaven as starting a nation or conquering a city.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 19, 2012, 06:08:21 AM
Leaving aside the other comedic gold you just dumped there, the fact you, and your team plan on doing something other than use the three gray cells between you first is mind boggling.

You're using "God" as a crutch to shield you from dealing with any criticism over the sheer stupidity of your plans. No matter how dumb or impulsive or short sighted the idea if you convince yourself the Almighty has commanded you, you can get the people in your life to back off.

But perhaps the Almighty is speaking to you through us, a group of people with IQs over 75 and degrees from institutions that don't use ordinal directions in their names.

Consider that. Nevertheless we can't, nor should we, protect you from YOURSELF.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 19, 2012, 08:15:14 AM
bushie you cant plan your life based on parables and fairy tales.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 19, 2012, 09:02:59 AM
bushie you cant plan your life based on parables and fairy tales.

Does your head hurt from beating it on a brick wall, mitty?  

I'd be glad to see him move to Kenya in 2012 and be with his children.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 19, 2012, 10:07:58 AM
But perhaps the Almighty is speaking to you through us, a group of people with IQs over 75 and degrees from institutions that don't use ordinal directions in their names.

As a potential student of Northwestern University I am deeply offended.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:09:44 AM
But perhaps the Almighty is speaking to you through us, a group of people with IQs over 75 and degrees from institutions that don't use ordinal directions in their names.

As a potential student of Northwestern University I am deeply offended.

Neh, don't be.  Northwestern isn't in the northwest, so bm has it right :)   


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 19, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
But perhaps the Almighty is speaking to you through us, a group of people with IQs over 75 and degrees from institutions that don't use ordinal directions in their names.

As a potential student of Northwestern University I am deeply offended.

Neh, don't be.  Northwestern isn't in the northwest, so bm has it right :)   

So I should be offended if I was going to Northeastern?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 19, 2012, 10:20:09 AM
But perhaps the Almighty is speaking to you through us, a group of people with IQs over 75 and degrees from institutions that don't use ordinal directions in their names.

As a potential student of Northwestern University I am deeply offended.

Neh, don't be.  Northwestern isn't in the northwest, so bm has it right :)   

So I should be offended if I was going to Northeastern?

Correct :P  Or just don't be offended......  :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 19, 2012, 10:20:56 AM
God sometimes calls us to do radical things, and this is no different.  In the Bible, He told Moses' successor Joshua

if you would stop for 2 seconds and simply contrast your "call" to Joshua's (or any other character in the bible whom God called), you would realize the bible is saying that God actually spoke to them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 19, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
Bushie,

Don't misunderstand me - I have no problem with you going to Africa and spreading the Gospel.  That's simply fulfilling the Great Commission.

What I do have a problem with is you saying God is leading you to do this and that based on the direction of the wind, when, in fact, God hasn't spoken to you.  I've met many people who are just like you - who attempt to find God's direction for their lives by becoming a soothsayer and reading tea leaves.

I am almost tempted to drive to OK this weekend to sit down with you and your pastor and discuss the history of everything you've stated God has "led" you into.  I am certain the path is riddled with one disaster after another. 

If you keep this up, you'll probably end up burned out and blaming God for everything that has happened, when, in fact, it's not God's fault at all.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
Bushie,

Don't misunderstand me - I have no problem with you going to Africa and spreading the Gospel.  That's simply fulfilling the Great Commission.


Bingo, and that's all I want to do is fulfill the Great Commission.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 19, 2012, 12:46:52 PM
But perhaps the Almighty is speaking to you through us, a group of people with IQs over 75 and degrees from institutions that don't use ordinal directions in their names.

As a potential student of Northwestern University I am deeply offended.

Neh, don't be.  Northwestern isn't in the northwest, so bm has it right :)   


I should have been more precise. Mea culpa. Gramps knows what I'm getting at and it's clearly not a criticism against those respected schools.

So I should be offended if I was going to Northeastern?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 19, 2012, 12:49:28 PM
Bushie,

Don't misunderstand me - I have no problem with you going to Africa and spreading the Gospel.  That's simply fulfilling the Great Commission.


Bingo, and that's all I want to do is fulfill the Great Commission.

doesn't "go into all the world" also include OK, or is OK separated from the world?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Bushie,

Don't misunderstand me - I have no problem with you going to Africa and spreading the Gospel.  That's simply fulfilling the Great Commission.


Bingo, and that's all I want to do is fulfill the Great Commission.

doesn't "go into all the world" also include OK, or is OK separated from the world?

It includes Oklahoma, but it doesn't mean I am limited to Oklahoma.  God can take me anywhere He wants, whether it be Oklahoma, Florida, Europe, Australia, China, Kenya, or elsewhere in Africa or the World.  I really do feel led to move to Kenya in early 2015 to be an aide to the men working at Maisha.  Right now they have 3 men to serve 450 orphans and widows plus 2 million people in the slums.  One young man there is probably going to go back to school in the near future, so that leaves pretty much 2 full time men and this young man as the part time.  That's one thing that was said very early on in the trip, and in the meetings before hand that they are in desperate need of men to help in the overseeing and the administration of the Orphanage.  That is what I'm going down there to do, is to be an aide to the men down there whom I have formed a good relationship with.

I am going to meet with the Kenya Team Coordinator and Maisha Int'l Orphanage Founder, a native of Kisumu, on Wednesday, 2 May 2012 at 17:30.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 19, 2012, 01:15:54 PM
Has anyone noticed the subtle things BushKE has done to show us he's transforming? Using the world clock and formatting his dates in a different manner?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: © tweed on April 19, 2012, 01:17:25 PM

I am almost tempted to drive to OK this weekend to sit down with you and your pastor and discuss the history of everything you've stated God has "led" you into.  I am certain the path is riddled with one disaster after another.  

video, please.


best scene since the Karamazovs wandered into Father Zossima's cell back in the 1870s.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 19, 2012, 02:44:55 PM
I'm just pulling your leg. Just pointing out a little... error.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 19, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
I started getting a headache about 11:00 am today, but I took some medicine and asked the Lord to take it away because I could not afford to have a headache interfere with my work.  Wouldn't you know, that by 11:30, it was gone.

That's what happens when you take medicine...  You act like prayer fixes all of your problems.  Sometimes (most of the time) God let's things work out on their own.  In this case, God let the Tylenol take away your headache.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 19, 2012, 03:29:17 PM
It's quite obvious that Dave has chosen not to renew this thread for another season and this storyline is heading towards the ultimate closure.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 19, 2012, 03:32:14 PM
It's quite obvious that Dave has chosen not to renew this thread for another season and this storyline is heading towards the ultimate closure.

O ye, of little faith.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 19, 2012, 03:33:30 PM
It's quite obvious that Dave has chosen not to renew this thread for another season and this storyline is heading towards the ultimate closure.

O ye, of little faith.

Exactly, the kids' granny is gonna come into crisis soon and Bushie will be jetting over to Kenya to rescue his kids.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 19, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
Speaking of granny, didn't he get mad once because his stole the thunder of his birthday or something.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 03:43:17 PM
Speaking of granny, didn't he get mad once because his stole the thunder of his birthday or something.

That was last year and I was being selfish.  I fully realize and fully admit that.  I definitely don't think that this year.  I have had many experiences in my 30th year (age 29) that have gone to grow me and mature me.  I feel a lot more mature heading to my 30th birthday in 9 days than I did heading to my 29th birthday.  I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but by God's grace and with His direction, I am getting there.  I will not get there entirely until I get home to heaven, to be perfectly honest.  I can get closer and closer, though!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 19, 2012, 04:00:56 PM
Speaking of granny, didn't he get mad once because his stole the thunder of his birthday or something.

I'm talking about Bushie's kids' granny that they live with, but yeah.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
Speaking of granny, didn't he get mad once because his stole the thunder of his birthday or something.

I'm talking about Bushie's kids' granny that they live with, but yeah.

Haha, well I can tell you there is very little chance I will be in Kenya this year or next year.  It could happen, but I am not thinking that is either what I'm supposed to do or what I want to do at this time.  I will move to Kenya, but I am still looking at 28 February 2015.  The earliest I would move it up is to 31 August 2014, but I still have things to do here in Oklahoma City.

For starters, I still plan to get my MBA, and I want to have that completed before I head to Africa.  If I get started in August 2012 or even January 2013, which may be more likely, I should be done by May or December 2014, respectively for each start date.  Even if takes longer than I am planning, I am okay with that.  Since my Kenya trips in March 2013 and March 2014 are during Spring Break, those will not be impacted by an MBA pursuit.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 19, 2012, 04:39:20 PM
MBA? From where?

Jmfcst, help him!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 04:43:11 PM

University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on April 19, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
Bushie, what would be the advantage of getting an MBA and then jetting off to Kenya?  Further, how would you pay back Uncle Sam on what I am assuming would be a meager Kenyan missionary type salary. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
Bushie, what would be the advantage of getting an MBA and then jetting off to Kenya?  Further, how would you pay back Uncle Sam on what I am assuming would be a meager Kenyan missionary type salary. 

An MBA would, no doubt, help me wherever I go even to Africa.

I will figure out a way to pay the loan back.  I'll be alright.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
Bushie, what would be the advantage of getting an MBA and then jetting off to Kenya?  Further, how would you pay back Uncle Sam on what I am assuming would be a meager Kenyan missionary type salary. 

An MBA would, no doubt, help me wherever I go even to Africa.

I will figure out a way to pay the loan back.  I'll be alright.

Plus, if somehow events turn and I have to stay in Oklahoma, it definitely can't hurt me.  I'm confident I will be in Kenya, but I'm trying to plan for the possible "what-if" scenarios.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
I just got home from a good men's meeting at church.  There were just 3 of us, my pastor, youth and music minister, and myself (the associate pastor/associate music minister).  We talked about my calling to move to Kenya.  They brought up some very good points that made me think about why I am going, what is my purpose down there, and to make sure I can support myself and that I'm not going to be just another mouth to feed.

I told them the same thing I have been telling you guys that Dell has an office in Nairobi and I can probably get a transfer through them down there.  If not, then I have a friend who graduated from the same high school I did a year after I did who lives just outside Kisumu who owns a agriculture and farming business that employs thousands of people.  I could probably get on with them.  I assured them I will not just be another mouth to feed and that I will be able to support myself, my children, and be able to actually contribute down there.  Believe me, if I had any premonition that I would be unable to support myself and take a plate of food away from somebody else, then I would stay in Oklahoma or at least the United States.  As I said, I am going to meet with the Maisha Founder and Director on 2 May and discuss a game plan, a prayer plan, and what I am going to actually do down there not only to contribute to Maisha on the ground, but to support myself so I can contribute to Maisha.  That's another reason I'm not leaving for 2 1/2 - 4 years because it will take time to come to those conclusions and make the necessary arrangements as well as to raise the funds necessary to actually make the initial move to Kisumu.  I am under no illusions this will be an easy or an inexpensive venture.  All I know is it will be worth it.  My God, while He calls me to have faith, also explains very clearly in His Word that He expects us to have some common sense.  In fact, in the New Testament book of Romans it says if a man does not work, He should not eat.  God will provide all I need, but He does expect me to do my part and pull my share of the load.  He will pick up where I cannot continue.

Needless to say, I came away from the meeting tonight very encouraged.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on April 19, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
Bushie, can you at least promise us you won't move to Kenya unless you have a well paying job? That's what your pastor and youth and music minister were trying to tell you. Without a good paying job, you won't be able to do the good you are able to do living in Oklahoma.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 19, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
I just heard Lithium by Nirvana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fIqq5XVFKQ) for the first time in years and it reminded me of Bushie.


However, the Polyphonic Spree cover is probably better for the tone of Bushie as a person:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vzUh_55x2M


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 10:25:37 PM
Bushie, can you at least promise us you won't move to Kenya unless you have a well paying job? That's what your pastor and youth and music minister were trying to tell you. Without a good paying job, you won't be able to do the good you are able to do living in Oklahoma.

I can definitely promise you that, and not only you, but I promise myself that as well.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 19, 2012, 11:50:03 PM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2012, 11:53:26 PM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought

I am thinking with my brain.  That's what people don't understand.  This forum thinks the ONLY rational decision is to stay in Oklahoma and not move a muscle.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 19, 2012, 11:54:25 PM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought

I am thinking with my brain.  That's what people don't understand.  This forum thinks the ONLY rational decision is to stay in Oklahoma and not move a muscle.
As a Christian man, I admire and respect your devotion to God and serving all His children... but from what I know about your decision that is the more rational decision then moving to Kenya


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 20, 2012, 12:03:09 AM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought

I am thinking with my brain.  That's what people don't understand.  This forum thinks the ONLY rational decision is to stay in Oklahoma and not move a muscle.
As a Christian man, I admire and respect your devotion to God and serving all His children... but from what I know about your decision that is the more rational decision then moving to Kenya

I strongly disagree, Clarence.  Moving to Kenya is a huge decision, and I realize a lot of people will find it very crazy, but that's fine with me really.  I know it will neither be easy nor inexpensive.  I just know it will be well worth it in the end.

People may think I am insane for feeling the call to move 10,000 miles away.  That is not the clinical definition of insanity, however.  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

I am going to give myself 100% to this adventure.  I am not going to move down there if I don't have a well-paying job, enough to support myself and my two children and enough to fund an annual trip back to Oklahoma for my medical checkups and relaxation.

I'm not going to be stupid and move down there without the proper arrangements in place.  That, again, is why it is going to take at least 2 1/2 - 3 years so I can get all the puzzle pieces together, and we're talking a 5000 piece puzzle, or so it seems.  It seems daunting here at the very onset of this, but I know following the LORD and His will is ALWAYS worth all the trouble.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 20, 2012, 08:07:06 AM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 20, 2012, 10:43:12 AM
It includes Oklahoma, but it doesn't mean I am limited to Oklahoma.  God can take me anywhere He wants, whether it be Oklahoma, Florida, Europe, Australia, China, Kenya, or elsewhere in Africa or the World.  I really do feel led to move to Kenya in early 2015

Well, if God is leading you to Kenya, why has he not directly spoken to you about doing so?!  Did God catch laryngitis and lose his voice?

That’s the 800 pound elephant in the room that you refuse to address.

John 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow.”

I can’t find anything in John 10:27 about “My sheep know how to read tea leaves.”  Nor can I find any example in scripture of God commissioning someone to do something without God actually speaking to them.

Obviously, God has given you the freedom to move to Kenya, just as he has given me the freedom to move to Kenya…but having the freedom to do something is totally different than being given a commission (an order) to do something.

If you’ve read my testimony, you know that God used a girl (who is now my wife) to bring me to Christ.  He set something inside my heart concerning her from the very instant I first came into her presence in the Fall of 1991 that made me understand my destiny was linked to her.  I wouldn’t understand it fully until the moment I was saved in Oct 1992, then God answered my query concerning the purpose of her being brought into my wife.

BUT, I did NOT interpret her purpose in bringing me to Christ as a sign that I had to marry her.  God did NOT command me to marry her, even though he DID command me to go and explain the true Gospel to her.  Marrying her was my own choice.  I had liberty from God to marry anyone I so chose to marry (as long as they were Christian…and of the opposite sex, of course :P ).

In fact, before our marriage, my pastor (he always gives pre-marriage counseling to couples as a prerequisite to conducting the marriage) even pointed out to me that nothing in my testimony require that I marry her.  I assured him I understood that and that I fully agreed.  But that is the difference between my pastor and yours – my pastor differentiates between freedom and God-given commands, and he believes the will of God is ALREADY spelled out in scripture (he doesn’t buy into things like The Purpose Driven Life which tells people they have to constantly seek God’s purpose for their lives).  And he knows the difference between the voice of God and the imagination of those who attempt to read tea leaves, cause he himself knows the voice of God because God spoke to him and said, “I am calling you to be a pastor.”  That’s why, if you’ve seen his videos I posted, he is so down to earth and unshaken by the latest fads going on in Christianity – he doesn’t get caught up in the latest doctrinal fads because he keeps a connection with Christ.

I have met pastors who became pastors without a true calling to do so – I once had a pastor  invite us over for a “bible study” (his wife worked with my wife in 1995 and had invited us over for a bible study – the pastor’s wife thought my wife was a heathen for wearing lip gloss and showing off her neck) tell me that he determined he was called to be a pastor because he put a fleece before God by placing two adds in some newspaper and didn’t receive a reply to either, and he had always received a reply to those ads.  I didn’t say anything to him, but in the back of my mind I was thinking, “You’ve got to be kidding me!!!…but that does explain why you suck.”  They ended up basically kicking us out of their house after asking me to come to Christ and then being offended by our testimony we gave as a response.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 20, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them.  In doing so, like I said I am talking to the Maisha Coordinator on Wednesday, 2 May at her office in Downtown Oklahoma City to discuss this in greater depth.  Plus, the time is not right to tell my parents.  I want to wait until I get further removed from the March 2012 trip before I tell them.  I will probably wait until after the meetings have begun for March 2013 trip which should happen this October.  Sometime around the Holidays this year, I will tell them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 20, 2012, 05:46:49 PM
It includes Oklahoma, but it doesn't mean I am limited to Oklahoma.  God can take me anywhere He wants, whether it be Oklahoma, Florida, Europe, Australia, China, Kenya, or elsewhere in Africa or the World.  I really do feel led to move to Kenya in early 2015

Well, if God is leading you to Kenya, why has he not directly spoken to you about doing so?!  Did God catch laryngitis and lose his voice?

That’s the 800 pound elephant in the room that you refuse to address.

John 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow.”

I can’t find anything in John 10:27 about “My sheep know how to read tea leaves.”  Nor can I find any example in scripture of God commissioning someone to do something without God actually speaking to them.

Obviously, God has given you the freedom to move to Kenya, just as he has given me the freedom to move to Kenya…but having the freedom to do something is totally different than being given a commission (an order) to do something.

If you’ve read my testimony, you know that God used a girl (who is now my wife) to bring me to Christ.  He set something inside my heart concerning her from the very instant I first came into her presence in the Fall of 1991 that made me understand my destiny was linked to her.  I wouldn’t understand it fully until the moment I was saved in Oct 1992, then God answered my query concerning the purpose of her being brought into my wife.

BUT, I did NOT interpret her purpose in bringing me to Christ as a sign that I had to marry her.  God did NOT command me to marry her, even though he DID command me to go and explain the true Gospel to her.  Marrying her was my own choice.  I had liberty from God to marry anyone I so chose to marry (as long as they were Christian…and of the opposite sex, of course :P ).

In fact, before our marriage, my pastor (he always gives pre-marriage counseling to couples as a prerequisite to conducting the marriage) even pointed out to me that nothing in my testimony require that I marry her.  I assured him I understood that and that I fully agreed.  But that is the difference between my pastor and yours – my pastor differentiates between freedom and God-given commands, and he believes the will of God is ALREADY spelled out in scripture (he doesn’t buy into things like The Purpose Driven Life which tells people they have to constantly seek God’s purpose for their lives).  And he knows the difference between the voice of God and the imagination of those who attempt to read tea leaves, cause he himself knows the voice of God because God spoke to him and said, “I am calling you to be a pastor.”  That’s why, if you’ve seen his videos I posted, he is so down to earth and unshaken by the latest fads going on in Christianity – he doesn’t get caught up in the latest doctrinal fads because he keeps a connection with Christ.

I have met pastors who became pastors without a true calling to do so – I once had a pastor  invite us over for a “bible study” (his wife worked with my wife in 1995 and had invited us over for a bible study – the pastor’s wife thought my wife was a heathen for wearing lip gloss and showing off her neck) tell me that he determined he was called to be a pastor because he put a fleece before God by placing two adds in some newspaper and didn’t receive a reply to either, and he had always received a reply to those ads.  I didn’t say anything to him, but in the back of my mind I was thinking, “You’ve got to be kidding me!!!…but that does explain why you suck.”  They ended up basically kicking us out of their house after asking me to come to Christ and then being offended by our testimony we gave as a response.


I am not just reading tea leaves here.  God often speaks to His children in visions/dreams and through Scripture and through trusted family and friends.  He has spoken to me in all three ways over the past month.  He has given me countless dreams of my mission down there.  He has spoken to me through Scripture, mainly in three places, my testimonial verses in Exodus 4:10-12 and also in Genesis 12:1-5, and my favorite verse of Scripture in Philippians 4:19.  He has also spoken to me through trusted friends and family.  My pastor and youth/music minister for instance last evening.  My youth/music minister was the most skeptical of this, and He went on the trip with me.  He is starting to realize where I am coming from.  My cousin who I have, of course, known all of our lives and I trust her guidance.  I have spoken to my former pastor and his wife who has been down this road before with their daughter moving to South Africa just a few years ago.  The little "confirmations" were just blessings along the way.  God has definitely spoken to me over the past month through a number of ways, visions, Scripture, and through others.  He has spoken to me through this forum, as well, because it has helped me refine WHY I am going there and making sure I am not going down there (A) for the wrong reasons and (B) end up being another mouth to feed.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 20, 2012, 06:04:57 PM
Only Jmfcst can save him now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 20, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them. 

Have you deleted everyone from your facebook who could possibly ask them about this, or are there only like 5 people in Oklahoma who have facebook?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 20, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
People may think I am insane for feeling the call to move 10,000 miles away.  That is not the clinical definition of insanity, however.  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

You do know that's not the clinical definition of insanity, correct?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 20, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them.  In doing so, like I said I am talking to the Maisha Coordinator on Wednesday, 2 May at her office in Downtown Oklahoma City to discuss this in greater depth.  Plus, the time is not right to tell my parents.  I want to wait until I get further removed from the March 2012 trip before I tell them.  I will probably wait until after the meetings have begun for March 2013 trip which should happen this October.  Sometime around the Holidays this year, I will tell them.

That says EVERYTHING right there... they're going to tell you the same thing we've been telling you.  And I think some part of you knows they'd be / we are right... you're doing this because you had an emotional reaction to the trip.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 20, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
It includes Oklahoma, but it doesn't mean I am limited to Oklahoma.  God can take me anywhere He wants, whether it be Oklahoma, Florida, Europe, Australia, China, Kenya, or elsewhere in Africa or the World.  I really do feel led to move to Kenya in early 2015

Well, if God is leading you to Kenya, why has he not directly spoken to you about doing so?!  Did God catch laryngitis and lose his voice?

That’s the 800 pound elephant in the room that you refuse to address.

John 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow.”

I can’t find anything in John 10:27 about “My sheep know how to read tea leaves.”  Nor can I find any example in scripture of God commissioning someone to do something without God actually speaking to them.

Obviously, God has given you the freedom to move to Kenya, just as he has given me the freedom to move to Kenya…but having the freedom to do something is totally different than being given a commission (an order) to do something.

If you’ve read my testimony, you know that God used a girl (who is now my wife) to bring me to Christ.  He set something inside my heart concerning her from the very instant I first came into her presence in the Fall of 1991 that made me understand my destiny was linked to her.  I wouldn’t understand it fully until the moment I was saved in Oct 1992, then God answered my query concerning the purpose of her being brought into my wife.

BUT, I did NOT interpret her purpose in bringing me to Christ as a sign that I had to marry her.  God did NOT command me to marry her, even though he DID command me to go and explain the true Gospel to her.  Marrying her was my own choice.  I had liberty from God to marry anyone I so chose to marry (as long as they were Christian…and of the opposite sex, of course :P ).

In fact, before our marriage, my pastor (he always gives pre-marriage counseling to couples as a prerequisite to conducting the marriage) even pointed out to me that nothing in my testimony require that I marry her.  I assured him I understood that and that I fully agreed.  But that is the difference between my pastor and yours – my pastor differentiates between freedom and God-given commands, and he believes the will of God is ALREADY spelled out in scripture (he doesn’t buy into things like The Purpose Driven Life which tells people they have to constantly seek God’s purpose for their lives).  And he knows the difference between the voice of God and the imagination of those who attempt to read tea leaves, cause he himself knows the voice of God because God spoke to him and said, “I am calling you to be a pastor.”  That’s why, if you’ve seen his videos I posted, he is so down to earth and unshaken by the latest fads going on in Christianity – he doesn’t get caught up in the latest doctrinal fads because he keeps a connection with Christ.

I have met pastors who became pastors without a true calling to do so – I once had a pastor  invite us over for a “bible study” (his wife worked with my wife in 1995 and had invited us over for a bible study – the pastor’s wife thought my wife was a heathen for wearing lip gloss and showing off her neck) tell me that he determined he was called to be a pastor because he put a fleece before God by placing two adds in some newspaper and didn’t receive a reply to either, and he had always received a reply to those ads.  I didn’t say anything to him, but in the back of my mind I was thinking, “You’ve got to be kidding me!!!…but that does explain why you suck.”  They ended up basically kicking us out of their house after asking me to come to Christ and then being offended by our testimony we gave as a response.


I am not just reading tea leaves here.  God often speaks to His children in visions/dreams and through Scripture and through trusted family and friends.  He has spoken to me in all three ways over the past month.  He has given me countless dreams of my mission down there.  He has spoken to me through Scripture, mainly in three places, my testimonial verses in Exodus 4:10-12 and also in Genesis 12:1-5, and my favorite verse of Scripture in Philippians 4:19.  He has also spoken to me through trusted friends and family.  My pastor and youth/music minister for instance last evening.  My youth/music minister was the most skeptical of this, and He went on the trip with me.  He is starting to realize where I am coming from.  My cousin who I have, of course, known all of our lives and I trust her guidance.  I have spoken to my former pastor and his wife who has been down this road before with their daughter moving to South Africa just a few years ago.  The little "confirmations" were just blessings along the way.  God has definitely spoken to me over the past month through a number of ways, visions, Scripture, and through others.  He has spoken to me through this forum, as well, because it has helped me refine WHY I am going there and making sure I am not going down there (A) for the wrong reasons and (B) end up being another mouth to feed.

Saying that you know God has "definitely spoken" do you through visions is borderline blasphemy... you can't know that.  And, from a theological standpoint (being a Dispensationalist), I would argue that we are past the dispensation of visions by God.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 20, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them.  In doing so, like I said I am talking to the Maisha Coordinator on Wednesday, 2 May at her office in Downtown Oklahoma City to discuss this in greater depth.  Plus, the time is not right to tell my parents.  I want to wait until I get further removed from the March 2012 trip before I tell them.  I will probably wait until after the meetings have begun for March 2013 trip which should happen this October.  Sometime around the Holidays this year, I will tell them.

That says EVERYTHING right there... they're going to tell you the same thing we've been telling you.  And I think some part of you knows they'd be / we are right... you're doing this because you had an emotional reaction to the trip.

To be honest, I'm far enough away from the trip now, having been home almost a month and the desires and feelings have done nothing but grow.  The more I think about it, the more excited I get, the bigger my smile gets, and the more confident my steps become.  My cousin has seen a drastic change in me since I've been home and she told me just this evening that she has not seen that change die, rather she has seen it grow and evolve into a little clearer picture of what my mission will actually be.  My mission, as I have been saying, and nobody on this forum is addressing this aspect, is that Maisha International Orphanage serves 450 orphans and about 100-150 widows.  They have a grand total of 3 men overseeing the day to day operations on the ground.  They need men in the worst way because these widows have lost their husbands largely due to AIDS.  These three men are in great health, themselves, but they have a hard time serving 600 people (that's roughly 200 people per man) and have time to themselves as well.  When I go down there, I would be not only a 4th man, but also the only white man down there and will be able to bring some American perspective to the situation.

Put it another way, I am not going down there to do what I want to do and I am not going down there to serve my best interest.  My best interest and what I want to do is in Oklahoma.  I am giving up all my dreams and ambitions in Oklahoma to give my life completely to my God and really serving Him and really worshipping Him.  As a Christian, the Bible teaches me that I am bought with a price, and my life does not belong to me.  My life belongs to Jesus.  He owns the deed to my life.  It is only right for me to give my self completely to Him because He gave Himself completely for me on the cross dying in my place for my sins and taking the punishment that I deserve.

I really do appreciate this forum's concern for my well being, but let me tell you I am not doing this to see what I can gain out of it.  I know I'm going to give up a lot by leaving Oklahoma for Kenya.  I also know that I'm going to gain a lot by doing the exact same thing.

The Bible also says in James 1 that true religion is taking care of the widows and orphans.

All my dreams and ambitions that I had before I went to Africa have been redirected to eternal things, not temporal things.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 20, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
It includes Oklahoma, but it doesn't mean I am limited to Oklahoma.  God can take me anywhere He wants, whether it be Oklahoma, Florida, Europe, Australia, China, Kenya, or elsewhere in Africa or the World.  I really do feel led to move to Kenya in early 2015

Well, if God is leading you to Kenya, why has he not directly spoken to you about doing so?!  Did God catch laryngitis and lose his voice?

That’s the 800 pound elephant in the room that you refuse to address.

John 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow.”

I can’t find anything in John 10:27 about “My sheep know how to read tea leaves.”  Nor can I find any example in scripture of God commissioning someone to do something without God actually speaking to them.

Obviously, God has given you the freedom to move to Kenya, just as he has given me the freedom to move to Kenya…but having the freedom to do something is totally different than being given a commission (an order) to do something.

If you’ve read my testimony, you know that God used a girl (who is now my wife) to bring me to Christ.  He set something inside my heart concerning her from the very instant I first came into her presence in the Fall of 1991 that made me understand my destiny was linked to her.  I wouldn’t understand it fully until the moment I was saved in Oct 1992, then God answered my query concerning the purpose of her being brought into my wife.

BUT, I did NOT interpret her purpose in bringing me to Christ as a sign that I had to marry her.  God did NOT command me to marry her, even though he DID command me to go and explain the true Gospel to her.  Marrying her was my own choice.  I had liberty from God to marry anyone I so chose to marry (as long as they were Christian…and of the opposite sex, of course :P ).

In fact, before our marriage, my pastor (he always gives pre-marriage counseling to couples as a prerequisite to conducting the marriage) even pointed out to me that nothing in my testimony require that I marry her.  I assured him I understood that and that I fully agreed.  But that is the difference between my pastor and yours – my pastor differentiates between freedom and God-given commands, and he believes the will of God is ALREADY spelled out in scripture (he doesn’t buy into things like The Purpose Driven Life which tells people they have to constantly seek God’s purpose for their lives).  And he knows the difference between the voice of God and the imagination of those who attempt to read tea leaves, cause he himself knows the voice of God because God spoke to him and said, “I am calling you to be a pastor.”  That’s why, if you’ve seen his videos I posted, he is so down to earth and unshaken by the latest fads going on in Christianity – he doesn’t get caught up in the latest doctrinal fads because he keeps a connection with Christ.

I have met pastors who became pastors without a true calling to do so – I once had a pastor  invite us over for a “bible study” (his wife worked with my wife in 1995 and had invited us over for a bible study – the pastor’s wife thought my wife was a heathen for wearing lip gloss and showing off her neck) tell me that he determined he was called to be a pastor because he put a fleece before God by placing two adds in some newspaper and didn’t receive a reply to either, and he had always received a reply to those ads.  I didn’t say anything to him, but in the back of my mind I was thinking, “You’ve got to be kidding me!!!…but that does explain why you suck.”  They ended up basically kicking us out of their house after asking me to come to Christ and then being offended by our testimony we gave as a response.


I am not just reading tea leaves here.  God often speaks to His children in visions/dreams and through Scripture and through trusted family and friends.  He has spoken to me in all three ways over the past month.  He has given me countless dreams of my mission down there.  He has spoken to me through Scripture, mainly in three places, my testimonial verses in Exodus 4:10-12 and also in Genesis 12:1-5, and my favorite verse of Scripture in Philippians 4:19.  He has also spoken to me through trusted friends and family.  My pastor and youth/music minister for instance last evening.  My youth/music minister was the most skeptical of this, and He went on the trip with me.  He is starting to realize where I am coming from.  My cousin who I have, of course, known all of our lives and I trust her guidance.  I have spoken to my former pastor and his wife who has been down this road before with their daughter moving to South Africa just a few years ago.  The little "confirmations" were just blessings along the way.  God has definitely spoken to me over the past month through a number of ways, visions, Scripture, and through others.  He has spoken to me through this forum, as well, because it has helped me refine WHY I am going there and making sure I am not going down there (A) for the wrong reasons and (B) end up being another mouth to feed.

Saying that you know God has "definitely spoken" do you through visions is borderline blasphemy... you can't know that.  And, from a theological standpoint (being a Dispensationalist), I would argue that we are past the dispensation of visions by God.

I totally disagree.  I believe God can speak however He wants.  He can still make the sun stand still if He wants like He did in the book of Joshua.  He can make the sun go backwards.  He doesn't speak in the earthquake, or the wind, or the rain, or the fire.  Rather, He speaks in a still small voice, or as some translations put it, the sound of a gentle blowing.  That is what I've been hearing, the still small voice, a gentle whisper that was loud and clear.

I know what I heard, Inks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 20, 2012, 11:42:32 PM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them.  In doing so, like I said I am talking to the Maisha Coordinator on Wednesday, 2 May at her office in Downtown Oklahoma City to discuss this in greater depth.  Plus, the time is not right to tell my parents.  I want to wait until I get further removed from the March 2012 trip before I tell them.  I will probably wait until after the meetings have begun for March 2013 trip which should happen this October.  Sometime around the Holidays this year, I will tell them.

So you're going to hide a major life decision from them for six months?  May I ask why?

Whatever happened to "honor thy father and thy mother"?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 20, 2012, 11:45:56 PM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought

I am thinking with my brain.  That's what people don't understand.  This forum thinks the ONLY rational decision is to stay in Oklahoma and not move a muscle.

No you aren't.  If you were thinking with your actual brain you wouldn't be going on about God told you this or God told you that.  Use your own brain, think rationally and keep God out of the question.

Also no one is suggesting you should stay in Oklahoma all your life.  If I was there I would sure as hell want out.  However, there is a major difference between moving on with your life, trying a different direction, etc and moving halfway across the Globe  It doesn't have to be Kenya or Oklahoma forever


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 21, 2012, 08:43:09 AM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them.  In doing so, like I said I am talking to the Maisha Coordinator on Wednesday, 2 May at her office in Downtown Oklahoma City to discuss this in greater depth.  Plus, the time is not right to tell my parents.  I want to wait until I get further removed from the March 2012 trip before I tell them.  I will probably wait until after the meetings have begun for March 2013 trip which should happen this October.  Sometime around the Holidays this year, I will tell them.

So you're going to hide a major life decision from them for six months?  May I ask why?

Whatever happened to "honor thy father and thy mother"?


I want to get a few more pieces of the puzzle in place such as how am I going to support myself, where am I going to live, and such like that.  Plus, the timing just is not right.  I am honoring them by making sure I have a clearer idea of the important questions before I tell them. I want to have my ducks in a row so to speak.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 21, 2012, 08:43:56 AM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought

I am thinking with my brain.  That's what people don't understand.  This forum thinks the ONLY rational decision is to stay in Oklahoma and not move a muscle.

No you aren't.  If you were thinking with your actual brain you wouldn't be going on about God told you this or God told you that.  Use your own brain, think rationally and keep God out of the question.

Also no one is suggesting you should stay in Oklahoma all your life.  If I was there I would sure as hell want out.  However, there is a major difference between moving on with your life, trying a different direction, etc and moving halfway across the Globe  It doesn't have to be Kenya or Oklahoma forever

If you expect me to leave God out of the equation, forget it.  He is my Rock and my Hiding Place.  He has brought me this far, I am not going to abandon Him now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 21, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
Well, the cat's out of the bag, folks! My mother found out my plans on facebook.  She asked me just now if I had quit work, I was honest with her that, yes, I do plan to move to Kenya, but not until Spring 2015 at the earliest, and that I have not quit work and if I can swing it, I will try to transfer to the Dell in Nairobi.  I told her I am not ready to move to Kenya and I have a lot of stuff left to do in Oklahoma.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 21, 2012, 01:27:25 PM
Well, the cat's out of the bag, folks! My mother found out my plans on facebook.  She asked me just now if I had quit work, I was honest with her that, yes, I do plan to move to Kenya, but not until Spring 2015 at the earliest, and that I have not quit work and if I can swing it, I will try to transfer to the Dell in Nairobi.  I told her I am not ready to move to Kenya and I have a lot of stuff left to do in Oklahoma.

Maybe the picture of the Kenyan boy as your profile pic caused her to read further?  ::)   Will you delete mom and dad and  your brother now too?  Maybe LP will tell you to "tidy up" your friends list and remove them?  She is a whackjob.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 21, 2012, 01:38:12 PM
Well, the cat's out of the bag, folks! My mother found out my plans on facebook.  She asked me just now if I had quit work, I was honest with her that, yes, I do plan to move to Kenya, but not until Spring 2015 at the earliest, and that I have not quit work and if I can swing it, I will try to transfer to the Dell in Nairobi.  I told her I am not ready to move to Kenya and I have a lot of stuff left to do in Oklahoma.

Maybe the picture of the Kenyan boy as your profile pic caused her to read further?  ::)   Will you delete mom and dad and  your brother now too?  Maybe LP will tell you to "tidy up" your friends list and remove them?  She is a whackjob.

I am not going to delete my family, because they are... my family.  Plus, none of them are saying this is a bad idea.

That friend on facebook you mention is probably my best friend on there.  I don't agree with her on everything, but I do agree with her on a lot of things.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on April 21, 2012, 01:51:46 PM
Having your parents on Facebook in the first place is weird and unwise, but then so are you I suppose.  And of course they're not saying this pipe dream is a bad idea; they were also fully supportive of you scamming them and your grandma those couple of times.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 21, 2012, 04:11:27 PM
So what was their reaction to the fact they have 2 new grandkids? 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 21, 2012, 05:06:22 PM
this gets better.

all bushie has to do is tell his parents that 'god told him' to move to kenya.  they will fall for it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 21, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
Having your parents on Facebook in the first place is weird and unwise, but then so are you I suppose.

I'm FB friends with my Mom, and know several other people who are FB friends with their parents.  Never thought it was a big deal.  But then, I guess it depends on how much you use FB and what you use it for.  I'm over 30, and have a relatively boring life, so there's nothing I would want to put on FB that I mind if my mother sees.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 21, 2012, 06:49:41 PM
Having your parents on Facebook in the first place is weird and unwise, but then so are you I suppose.

I'm FB friends with my Mom, and know several other people who are FB friends with their parents.  Never thought it was a big deal.  But then, I guess it depends on how much you use FB and what you use it for.  I'm over 30, and have a relatively boring life, so there's nothing I would want to put on FB that I mind if my mother sees.


If you're slowing becoming an african,  have african kids, and call the Kenyan President your President....I'd suggest you defriend them :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 21, 2012, 08:17:22 PM
So what was their reaction to the fact they have 2 new grandkids? 

The love the idea.  We happened to bump into each other at Walmart this afternoon as they were leaving and I was arriving to get stuff for my care package party for the kids and she gave me $20 to put toward the contents.  I showed them the pictures of their two grandkids that I just got via email this past Thursday and they loved them.  They know this is where my heart is, and I had a feeling they were going to find out before I planned to tell them because I am friends with both of my parents on facebook and they occasionally check it.  I wasn't at all suprised, and in fact, I am relieved because now I can talk openly about this in front of them and to them and they have even more time to wrap their heads around their baby boy living nearly 10,000 miles away.

I don't know exactly how they feel, yet, other than I think my mother is relieved that I am not moving right away.  Of course, by the time I leave I will be almost 33 years old, so I am really not looking for their approval, I am just looking for their blessing.  My mother is cutting off all financial support to me when I turn 30 years old next Sunday, 29 April, because (1) I am 30 and (2) she retires from work the next day on 30 April so they will have to rely on his income for 6 months until her retirement checks kick in this November which will be less than what she is making now.  In doing so, they are also agreeing to allow me to make every decision that affects me.  I will come to them for advice and guidance because they are double my age, my father will be 61 next February and my mother will be 60 this October, but the final decision and its consequences rest on my shoulders.  If I succeed, that's great.  If I fall, they will not be there to pick me up except emotionally and spiritually.  They cannot pick me up, financially, anymore.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on April 21, 2012, 09:16:22 PM
So what was their reaction to the fact they have 2 new grandkids? 

The love the idea.  We happened to bump into each other at Walmart this afternoon as they were leaving and I was arriving to get stuff for my care package party for the kids and she gave me $20 to put toward the contents.  I showed them the pictures of their two grandkids that I just got via email this past Thursday and they loved them.  They know this is where my heart is, and I had a feeling they were going to find out before I planned to tell them because I am friends with both of my parents on facebook and they occasionally check it.  I wasn't at all suprised, and in fact, I am relieved because now I can talk openly about this in front of them and to them and they have even more time to wrap their heads around their baby boy living nearly 10,000 miles away.

I don't know exactly how they feel, yet, other than I think my mother is relieved that I am not moving right away.  Of course, by the time I leave I will be almost 33 years old, so I am really not looking for their approval, I am just looking for their blessing.  My mother is cutting off all financial support to me when I turn 30 years old next Sunday, 29 April, because (1) I am 30 and (2) she retires from work the next day on 30 April so they will have to rely on his income for 6 months until her retirement checks kick in this November which will be less than what she is making now.  In doing so, they are also agreeing to allow me to make every decision that affects me.  I will come to them for advice and guidance because they are double my age, my father will be 61 next February and my mother will be 60 this October, but the final decision and its consequences rest on my shoulders.  If I succeed, that's great.  If I fall, they will not be there to pick me up except emotionally and spiritually.  They cannot pick me up, financially, anymore.

Of course.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 21, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Bushie have you discussed your calling with your parents yet?  If not, you don't have to say why not, cause we all know the answer to that.

No, I haven't discussed it with my parents, yet, because I want to make sure I have a lot more pieces of the puzzle in place such as possible employment and housing arrangements, etc. before I approach them.  In doing so, like I said I am talking to the Maisha Coordinator on Wednesday, 2 May at her office in Downtown Oklahoma City to discuss this in greater depth.  Plus, the time is not right to tell my parents.  I want to wait until I get further removed from the March 2012 trip before I tell them.  I will probably wait until after the meetings have begun for March 2013 trip which should happen this October.  Sometime around the Holidays this year, I will tell them.

That says EVERYTHING right there... they're going to tell you the same thing we've been telling you.  And I think some part of you knows they'd be / we are right... you're doing this because you had an emotional reaction to the trip.

To be honest, I'm far enough away from the trip now, having been home almost a month and the desires and feelings have done nothing but grow.  The more I think about it, the more excited I get, the bigger my smile gets, and the more confident my steps become.  My cousin has seen a drastic change in me since I've been home and she told me just this evening that she has not seen that change die, rather she has seen it grow and evolve into a little clearer picture of what my mission will actually be.  My mission, as I have been saying, and nobody on this forum is addressing this aspect, is that Maisha International Orphanage serves 450 orphans and about 100-150 widows.  They have a grand total of 3 men overseeing the day to day operations on the ground.  They need men in the worst way because these widows have lost their husbands largely due to AIDS.  These three men are in great health, themselves, but they have a hard time serving 600 people (that's roughly 200 people per man) and have time to themselves as well.  When I go down there, I would be not only a 4th man, but also the only white man down there and will be able to bring some American perspective to the situation.

Put it another way, I am not going down there to do what I want to do and I am not going down there to serve my best interest.  My best interest and what I want to do is in Oklahoma.  I am giving up all my dreams and ambitions in Oklahoma to give my life completely to my God and really serving Him and really worshipping Him.  As a Christian, the Bible teaches me that I am bought with a price, and my life does not belong to me.  My life belongs to Jesus.  He owns the deed to my life.  It is only right for me to give my self completely to Him because He gave Himself completely for me on the cross dying in my place for my sins and taking the punishment that I deserve.

I really do appreciate this forum's concern for my well being, but let me tell you I am not doing this to see what I can gain out of it.  I know I'm going to give up a lot by leaving Oklahoma for Kenya.  I also know that I'm going to gain a lot by doing the exact same thing.

The Bible also says in James 1 that true religion is taking care of the widows and orphans.

All my dreams and ambitions that I had before I went to Africa have been redirected to eternal things, not temporal things.

So tell  your parents now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 21, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
Read Page 71, Inks. They know.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 22, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
The Apple never falls far from the tree.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 22, 2012, 12:45:24 AM
The Apple never falls far from the tree.

Yes, in 2030, Bushie's Kenyan kids will be selling him Kenyaplan health insurance, and hatching plans to leave for a missionary trip to climate change-ravaged Bangladesh.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 22, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
Did anyone doubt his parents wouldn't be totally on board with this given their past behavior? This will only accelerate the move, not slow it down. I fear they will tell him to go to his kids regardless of whether he has a job because god will just provide one when he gets there.

I hope he will at least stick to his promise not to move unless he has employment locked down there.

Another thing BushKE has yet to consider is this; most of the missionaries I have met in the past go to Kenya for a few years at a time or a few months, but few actually move there permanently. Those jobs are rarely permanent. Most of them are young people who go for a bit. What he wants to do doesn't seem like something one typically does. I just think this is all crazy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on April 22, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
What he wants to do doesn't seem like something one typically does. I just think this is all crazy.

Have you been paying any attention at all to the 'updates' here these past few years?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 22, 2012, 01:11:32 AM
What he wants to do doesn't seem like something one typically does. I just think this is all crazy.

Have you been paying any attention at all to the 'updates' here these past few years?

I guess I keep forgetting who we are dealing with. And I guess I am insane considering I keep doing the same thing, reading these threads, and expecting a different outcome. BushKE was right all along!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 22, 2012, 01:12:23 AM
I hope he will at least stick to his promise not to move unless he has employment locked down there.

I am going to stick around until at least the Fall 2014 most likely the Spring 2015.  I am going to get my MBA first and make sure I have not only employment locked down, but housing and transportation, as well.  I've got minimum 2 1/2  years to work on all three of those things, more likely 3 years.  Really, I have as long as it takes, whether that's 2 1/2 years or whether that is 5 years.

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Another thing BushKE has yet to consider is this; most of the missionaries I have met in the past go to Kenya for a few years at a time or a few months, but few actually move there permanently. Those jobs are rarely permanent. Most of them are young people who go for a bit. What he wants to do doesn't seem like something one typically does. I just think this is all crazy.

I am well aware of what "typically" happens.  Since when have I ever been "typical".  This forum knows that all too well.  There is a chance I could come back after a few years, but if I get down there by my 33rd birthday, I would like to not come back to America permanently until I'm at least 40, 10 years from now.  I want to stay down there permanently, but I'm open to whatever length of time I am called to be there.  I believe it will be permanent, but I am open to whatever I need to do.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 22, 2012, 01:18:08 AM
The Apple never falls far from the tree.

Yes, in 2030, Bushie's Kenyan kids will be selling him Kenyaplan health insurance, and hatching plans to leave for a missionary trip to climate change-ravaged Bangladesh.


He should visit Bangladesh. Maybe I can say hello.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 22, 2012, 01:46:50 AM
I hope he will at least stick to his promise not to move unless he has employment locked down there.

I am going to stick around until at least the Fall 2014 most likely the Spring 2015.  I am going to get my MBA first and make sure I have not only employment locked down, but housing and transportation, as well.  I've got minimum 2 1/2  years to work on all three of those things, more likely 3 years.  Really, I have as long as it takes, whether that's 2 1/2 years or whether that is 5 years.

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Another thing BushKE has yet to consider is this; most of the missionaries I have met in the past go to Kenya for a few years at a time or a few months, but few actually move there permanently. Those jobs are rarely permanent. Most of them are young people who go for a bit. What he wants to do doesn't seem like something one typically does. I just think this is all crazy.

I am well aware of what "typically" happens.  Since when have I ever been "typical".  This forum knows that all too well.  There is a chance I could come back after a few years, but if I get down there by my 33rd birthday, I would like to not come back to America permanently until I'm at least 40, 10 years from now.  I want to stay down there permanently, but I'm open to whatever length of time I am called to be there.  I believe it will be permanent, but I am open to whatever I need to do.

So what if you don't end up going?  If you heard God physically tell you to go, and the direction of what you think he wants you to do, how will you justify it?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 22, 2012, 07:17:13 AM
So what if you don't end up going?  If you heard God physically tell you to go, and the direction of what you think he wants you to do, how will you justify it?

He'll say that God's instruction to move to Kenya was metaphorical or something.  Either that, or he couldn't quite make out what God was saying because of the accent.

No offense Bushie, but given how many of your previous schemes fell apart, and how quickly you moved on, I'm estimating a <5% chance that a move to Kenya will ever happen.  And I predict that by the time it becomes obvious that the move isn't going to happen, you'll have largely lost interest in it anyway, and won't really care.  Just like you moved on from your last broken engagement without it seeming to phase you much.

In six months, I'm guessing that there'll be some new Update storyline that has nothing to do with Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 22, 2012, 11:01:31 AM
So what if you don't end up going?  If you heard God physically tell you to go, and the direction of what you think he wants you to do, how will you justify it?

He'll say that God's instruction to move to Kenya was metaphorical or something.  Either that, or he couldn't quite make out what God was saying because of the accent.

No offense Bushie, but given how many of your previous schemes fell apart, and how quickly you moved on, I'm estimating a <5% chance that a move to Kenya will ever happen.  And I predict that by the time it becomes obvious that the move isn't going to happen, you'll have largely lost interest in it anyway, and won't really care.  Just like you moved on from your last broken engagement without it seeming to phase you much.

In six months, I'm guessing that there'll be some new Update storyline that has nothing to do with Kenya.

That's pretty much the pattern for all his little plans, yes. And not his last engagement but all of them essentially.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 22, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
I showed them the pictures of their two grandkids

::facepalm::


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 22, 2012, 12:17:36 PM

double that for me too...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 22, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
bushie what ever happened to your plans to move to arizona or florida or some other horrible place?  marry some religious and have about 8 kids?  all of that sounds a lot more reasonable than moving to kenya chasing after some kids you send 10 bucks a  month to (who may not even being receiving it...)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 22, 2012, 07:28:35 PM
Bushie, for once in your life, think with your brain.  Not your heart, not what you think God wants or tells you to do, but think with your very own brain and use the concept of rationale thought

I am thinking with my brain.  That's what people don't understand.  This forum thinks the ONLY rational decision is to stay in Oklahoma and not move a muscle.

No you aren't.  If you were thinking with your actual brain you wouldn't be going on about God told you this or God told you that.  Use your own brain, think rationally and keep God out of the question.

Also no one is suggesting you should stay in Oklahoma all your life.  If I was there I would sure as hell want out.  However, there is a major difference between moving on with your life, trying a different direction, etc and moving halfway across the Globe  It doesn't have to be Kenya or Oklahoma forever

If you expect me to leave God out of the equation, forget it.  He is my Rock and my Hiding Place.  He has brought me this far, I am not going to abandon Him now.

I'm not saying to abandon God I am saying to use your actual own brain rather than trying to be a mind reader of what you think God wants you to do.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 22, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
I am going to Kenya.  There's almost no question about that now.

However, I am not going to go down there until I have employment locked down, housing secured, and transportation figured out.  Those are the three major factors that are the key to moving to Kenya or really moving anywhere, even if it's to another town in Oklahoma or the United States.

In the mean time, I've got work to do in Oklahoma before I leave.  I am working an hour overtime every day the next two weeks to study for my ITIL and Security+ Certification.  The ITIL exam is on Wednesday, 25 April 2012 at 10:45 and the Security+ exam is on Wednesday, 2 May 2012 at 11:00.  After that, I've got my GMAT exam for my MBA admission on Saturday, 19 May 2012 at 8:00 in Tulsa.

I've got a lot of exams in the next month.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 22, 2012, 09:18:22 PM
Me too. I have 4 exams in the next two weeks. I haven't left the library in 3 days. I also think I am going crazy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on April 22, 2012, 11:14:19 PM
Me too. I have 4 exams in the next two weeks. I haven't left the library in 3 days. I also think I am going crazy.

I can assure you not as crazy as others in this thread.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 23, 2012, 09:39:08 AM
Bushie,

Don't you have a history of going off half-cocked in some area of life you believe God is leading you into?  Have you had any stability in your Christian life over the last 5 years?  How can you say God is leading you when you haven't had success in YOUR own Christian life, much less the lives of others?

If your pastor knows your unsteady history as a Christian and is still behind this Kenya idea...let's just say you need to prove yourself (not only hold down a steady job, but excel at that job) over the next couple of years before you run off to Kenya.

I’d have much more confidence if you had a history of success instead of a history of constant upheaval.  In fact, I’d feel more comfortable with your idea if you were a brand new convert who had just come to Christ and had been given a commission.

The fact that your Pastor knows your unstable Christian history and is not showing restraint on this can only mean, at least to me, that he is a big source of your instability.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 23, 2012, 10:11:53 AM
Fundie war!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 23, 2012, 10:36:26 AM

OK has always been an embarrassing neighbor for Texas...in fact, all of the adjacent entities (Mexico, NM, OK, AR, LA) are an embarrassment to Texas.  :P


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 23, 2012, 10:44:21 AM

OK has always been an embarrassing neighbor for Texas...in fact, all of the adjacent entities (Mexico, NM, OK, AR, LA) are an embarrassment to Texas.  :P

I'm moving to Texas end of May start of June, so your state is about to become an embarrassment too. Sorry!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 23, 2012, 10:56:47 AM

OK has always been an embarrassing neighbor for Texas...in fact, all of the adjacent entities (Mexico, NM, OK, AR, LA) are an embarrassment to Texas.  :P

I'm moving to Texas end of May start of June, so your state is about to become an embarrassment too. Sorry!

You do realize it's so hot where you're moving  you'll spontaneously combust, right?  :P


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 23, 2012, 11:04:55 AM

OK has always been an embarrassing neighbor for Texas...in fact, all of the adjacent entities (Mexico, NM, OK, AR, LA) are an embarrassment to Texas.  :P

I'm moving to Texas end of May start of June, so your state is about to become an embarrassment too. Sorry!

You do realize it's so hot where you're moving  you'll spontaneously combust, right?  :P

Psh, it isn't tha bad. I'm used to southern heat, bring it on!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 23, 2012, 11:07:01 AM

OK has always been an embarrassing neighbor for Texas...in fact, all of the adjacent entities (Mexico, NM, OK, AR, LA) are an embarrassment to Texas.  :P

I'm moving to Texas end of May start of June, so your state is about to become an embarrassment too. Sorry!

You do realize it's so hot where you're moving  you'll spontaneously combust, right?  :P

Psh, it isn't tha bad. I'm used to southern heat, bring it on!

Yes, but will you wear pants?  :P


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 23, 2012, 11:10:21 AM

Yes, but will you wear pants?  :P


Highly doubtful. I'm guessing I will when I go to work, but pants are forbidden at home.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 23, 2012, 07:16:13 PM
I finished my first 9 hour work day today and have 9 more like days in the next two weeks.  It will be nice to get 5 hours overtime each of the next two weeks.  10 hours total on this pay period (the pay period just started Saturday, 21 April).

I am 124 hours from turning 30 years old and I am trying to get my house clean so I can start off my 4th decade with a clean house.  I've cleaned the kitchen so far tonight, and will finish it off through the evening and I'm doing my laundry.  I've been very busy the past two weekends so I've let the laundry pile up, so I've got several loads just in terms of sheer volume.  I'm going to do 3 loads tonight, which should get me nearly done.  If I can do two more loads tomorrow evening, I'll be fine.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 23, 2012, 07:46:41 PM
I finished my first 9 hour work day today and have 9 more like days in the next two weeks.  It will be nice to get 5 hours overtime each of the next two weeks.  10 hours total on this pay period (the pay period just started Saturday, 21 April).

I am 124 hours from turning 30 years old and I am trying to get my house clean so I can start off my 4th decade with a clean house.  I've cleaned the kitchen so far tonight, and will finish it off through the evening and I'm doing my laundry.  I've been very busy the past two weekends so I've let the laundry pile up, so I've got several loads just in terms of sheer volume.  I'm going to do 3 loads tonight, which should get me nearly done.  If I can do two more loads tomorrow evening, I'll be fine.

Have we ever covered such minutiae?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on April 23, 2012, 11:52:31 PM
I finished my first 9 hour work day today and have 9 more like days in the next two weeks.  It will be nice to get 5 hours overtime each of the next two weeks.  10 hours total on this pay period (the pay period just started Saturday, 21 April).

I am 124 hours from turning 30 years old and I am trying to get my house clean so I can start off my 4th decade with a clean house.  I've cleaned the kitchen so far tonight, and will finish it off through the evening and I'm doing my laundry.  I've been very busy the past two weekends so I've let the laundry pile up, so I've got several loads just in terms of sheer volume.  I'm going to do 3 loads tonight, which should get me nearly done.  If I can do two more loads tomorrow evening, I'll be fine.

Have we ever covered such minutiae?

Go and find the posts about his calendars.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 24, 2012, 06:24:24 AM
I finished my first 9 hour work day today and have 9 more like days in the next two weeks.  It will be nice to get 5 hours overtime each of the next two weeks.  10 hours total on this pay period (the pay period just started Saturday, 21 April).

I am 124 hours from turning 30 years old and I am trying to get my house clean so I can start off my 4th decade with a clean house.  I've cleaned the kitchen so far tonight, and will finish it off through the evening and I'm doing my laundry.  I've been very busy the past two weekends so I've let the laundry pile up, so I've got several loads just in terms of sheer volume.  I'm going to do 3 loads tonight, which should get me nearly done.  If I can do two more loads tomorrow evening, I'll be fine.

Have we ever covered such minutiae?

Go and find the posts about his calendars.

Well those are at least part of a greater narrative of organizing himself, but this seems to have nothing to do with anything.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 24, 2012, 06:51:36 AM
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This is my pictorial impression of both this thread AND the OP's plans..


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 24, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
I hope you get it all done, Bushie. It would be quite the disaster to have an unclean house to start your 30s.  Don't let the next 124 hours pass you by. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Insula Dei on April 24, 2012, 11:02:20 AM
I finished my first 9 hour work day today and have 9 more like days in the next two weeks.  It will be nice to get 5 hours overtime each of the next two weeks.  10 hours total on this pay period (the pay period just started Saturday, 21 April).

I am 124 hours from turning 30 years old and I am trying to get my house clean so I can start off my 4th decade with a clean house.  I've cleaned the kitchen so far tonight, and will finish it off through the evening and I'm doing my laundry.  I've been very busy the past two weekends so I've let the laundry pile up, so I've got several loads just in terms of sheer volume.  I'm going to do 3 loads tonight, which should get me nearly done.  If I can do two more loads tomorrow evening, I'll be fine.

Have we ever covered such minutiae?

Go and find the posts about his calendars.

Well those are at least part of a greater narrative of organizing himself, but this seems to have nothing to do with anything.

Laundry planning was about 35% of the original Update. It's a recurring theme to underline the protagonist's obsessive personality. In a way it serves as an illustration to the audience that there really has been no progress or evolution whatsoever. Laundry is the final symbol of the Update's hopeless universe.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 24, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
Laundry planning was about 35% of the original Update. It's a recurring theme to underline the protagonist's obsessive personality. In a way it serves as an illustration to the audience that there really has been no progress or evolution whatsoever. Laundry is the final symbol of the Update's hopeless universe.

you sure know your Update...is there a term for those of you who know every angle of the Update(kinda like Treker is a term for those who follow Star Trek)?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on April 24, 2012, 12:06:10 PM
Laundry planning was about 35% of the original Update. It's a recurring theme to underline the protagonist's obsessive personality. In a way it serves as an illustration to the audience that there really has been no progress or evolution whatsoever. Laundry is the final symbol of the Update's hopeless universe.

you sure know your Update...is there a term for those of you who know every angle of the Update(kinda like Treker is a term for those who follow Star Trek)?

The Atlas will pretty much be required to have an annual meetup to commemorate this show post-cancellation out of respect.  It will probably be at your house.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 24, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on April 24, 2012, 06:15:09 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Just make sure the hat is culturally competent.

()



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 24, 2012, 07:34:20 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 24, 2012, 08:43:25 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

All I can say is, do you like your hat with a little salt? oregeno? marinated?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 24, 2012, 09:31:09 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.

I thought the RomneyKenya was even more amusing.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 24, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.

I thought the RomneyKenya was even more amusing.

Kenya could always use a second Romney supporter to try to find the birth certificate.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 25, 2012, 07:39:26 AM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.

Actually he ever posted pictures of his Kenyan trip that included him in it on his FB....ever.  Hmmmm.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 25, 2012, 09:10:11 AM
I finished my first 9 hour work day today and have 9 more like days in the next two weeks.  It will be nice to get 5 hours overtime each of the next two weeks.  10 hours total on this pay period (the pay period just started Saturday, 21 April).

I am 124 hours from turning 30 years old and I am trying to get my house clean so I can start off my 4th decade with a clean house.  I've cleaned the kitchen so far tonight, and will finish it off through the evening and I'm doing my laundry.  I've been very busy the past two weekends so I've let the laundry pile up, so I've got several loads just in terms of sheer volume.  I'm going to do 3 loads tonight, which should get me nearly done.  If I can do two more loads tomorrow evening, I'll be fine.

Have we ever covered such minutiae?

Go and find the posts about his calendars.

Well those are at least part of a greater narrative of organizing himself, but this seems to have nothing to do with anything.

Laundry planning was about 35% of the original Update. It's a recurring theme to underline the protagonist's obsessive personality. In a way it serves as an illustration to the audience that there really has been no progress or evolution whatsoever. Laundry is the final symbol of the Update's hopeless universe.

You have to go back to the published prequel material to find this, but it reminds me a lot of when he posted his schedule for election day 2008, and basically had his entire day organized into 15 minute intervals and already had it planned what he was going to eat for breakfast, etc. If only he had put such effort into researching job offers (Grumps' point about his claim that he does so extensively too is quite amusing.)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 25, 2012, 10:15:11 AM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.

Actually he ever posted pictures of his Kenyan trip that included him in it on his FB....ever.  Hmmmm.

I wouldn't know.. I was given the boot!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 25, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.

Actually he ever posted pictures of his Kenyan trip that included him in it on his FB....ever.  Hmmmm.

I wouldn't know.. I was given the boot!

So was I but they weren't there before that and i doubt they are now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 25, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.

Actually he ever posted pictures of his Kenyan trip that included him in it on his FB....ever.  Hmmmm.

I wouldn't know.. I was given the boot!

So was I but they weren't there before that and i doubt they are now.

Probably not. I'm still saddened to know that he doesn't love either you or I, and requested us to be friends again on facebook :(


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 25, 2012, 10:34:53 AM
Probably not. I'm still saddened to know that he doesn't love either you or I, and requested us to be friends again on facebook :(

He doesn't love waltermitty either :(


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 25, 2012, 12:10:19 PM
Probably not. I'm still saddened to know that he doesn't love either you or I, and requested us to be friends again on facebook :(

He doesn't love waltermitty either :(

We should start a gang or something.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 25, 2012, 12:25:06 PM
Probably not. I'm still saddened to know that he doesn't love either you or I, and requested us to be friends again on facebook :(

He doesn't love waltermitty either :(

We should start a gang or something.

Me, you and mitty would be the most pathetic gang ever ;)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 25, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
^ We would have real street cred.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on April 25, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
Probably not. I'm still saddened to know that he doesn't love either you or I, and requested us to be friends again on facebook :(

He doesn't love waltermitty either :(

We should start a gang or something.

Me, you and mitty would be the most pathetic gang ever ;)
I wanna be in the pathetic gang too.  Gotta represent East Memphis.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 25, 2012, 01:51:11 PM
Probably not. I'm still saddened to know that he doesn't love either you or I, and requested us to be friends again on facebook :(

He doesn't love waltermitty either :(

We should start a gang or something.

Me, you and mitty would be the most pathetic gang ever ;)
I wanna be in the pathetic gang too.  Gotta represent East Memphis.

A hoodlum from Memphis.......you're in!  ;)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 25, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
Looks like we're gaining traction now!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on April 25, 2012, 02:23:41 PM
im not bathed in prayer so bushie thought i was a bad influence for his other fb friends.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 25, 2012, 04:08:10 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.

Actually he ever posted pictures of his Kenyan trip that included him in it on his FB....ever.  Hmmmm.

Bushie's not about to start providing evidence that the stories he tells are true.  That would just diminish the importance of your faith.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Bacon King on April 25, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
My Wild Mass Guess for how the current story arc ends (done in white colored font as a spoiler tag, highlight below to read).

Bushie actually will make a second trip to Kenya and tell the forum and his family that he's gotten everything organized for it to be a permanent move, even though it's only supposed to be another short mission trip. He will intentionally skip his flight home and become an illegal immigrant living in Kenya doing "God's work," at least until the organization that organizes the mission trips realizes he didn't make the flight with the rest of his group and notifies Kenyan authorities with a missing person report; he's discovered hospitalized with malaria (but mostly unharmed) after he runs out of the prophylaxis medicine he brought from the US. A horribly misguided attempted kidnapping of those sponsored kids may also be involved in the plot somewhere.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 25, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
1. I still can't get over the fact that this guy's username is actually BushKenya. Love it.
2. If he actually ends up living in Kenya, I will literally eat a hat.

Psh, Bushie has promised on many occasions to "eat crow" if something went wrong. It always did, and yet, he never posted pictures OR video of him eating said crow.

Actually he ever posted pictures of his Kenyan trip that included him in it on his FB....ever.  Hmmmm.

I wouldn't know.. I was given the boot!

So was I but they weren't there before that and i doubt they are now.

Actually, there are pics on there now both of me baptizing in the Kibos River and of another member and me sitting on the porch of the orphanage with two or three children.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 25, 2012, 09:47:01 PM
Here is a photo of me with my son and a couple other kids and another team member.

()


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 25, 2012, 10:13:58 PM
Here is a photo of me with my son and a couple other kids and another team member.

()

I hope you weren't out of saltpeter when they took that pic.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 26, 2012, 07:44:14 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 26, 2012, 10:03:53 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on April 26, 2012, 11:51:01 PM
Have you ever imagined that God doesn't "want" you to either go or stay? You were given free will for a reason, and that implies that God wants you to make decisions yourself based on what YOU think is right.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on April 27, 2012, 07:08:24 AM
He didn't acknowledge our gang. He's afraid of it!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on April 27, 2012, 08:34:45 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong. 

there is so much illogical about your statement....

1) What exactly is it that you're attempting to read?

2) If God wanted you to do something, why wouldn't he communicate clearly to you so that there would be no misunderstanding?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 28, 2012, 01:38:05 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.

there is so much illogical about your statement....

1) What exactly is it that you're attempting to read?

2) If God wanted you to do something, why wouldn't he communicate clearly to you so that there would be no misunderstanding?

The answer to question 1 would mean that I would have misjudged His perfect will but question 2 is spot on and answers that.  God has communicated this to me so clearly that it is unmistakeable.  Looking back over the past 30 years, I can see God preparing me for this very decision.  There is no such thing as luck and there is no such thing as chance.  I do not believe in those.  I believe that EVERYTHING in my life in the past 3 decades have led me to this point because God does not make mistakes nor does He change His mind.  Nobody can alter His plan for somebody's life, not even their own.  Even if said person commits suicide, God knew before the foundation of the world that person would take his own life.  Every minute of our lives from the minute of our birth to the minute of our death and our final word and everything in between has been pre-ordained and God knows it will happen before it even happens.  Nothing can suprise God.  He knows every single word one will speak and every single action one will take and every single thought one will think before even one of them occurs.  He knows before hand who will accept the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ and who will not.

I said all this to reiterate that God has been using every single thought and every single word and every single action I have made to prepare me for this journey inspite of my own attempts to mess everything up.  He knows every mistake I have or ever will make, and He has already made provisions for said mistake.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 28, 2012, 02:00:14 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 28, 2012, 02:05:13 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 28, 2012, 03:55:32 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

Yeah.  It's not like it's ever happened before.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 28, 2012, 04:02:46 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

Yeah.  It's not like it's ever happened before.


You are correct.  It has happened before.  That's part of being human.  However, I know God has spoken to me directly about this adventure.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on April 28, 2012, 09:02:35 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

Yeah.  It's not like it's ever happened before.


You are correct.  It has happened before.  That's part of being human.  However, I know God has spoken to me directly about this adventure.

As usual or in contrast to the past?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 28, 2012, 09:22:36 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

Yeah.  It's not like it's ever happened before.


You are correct.  It has happened before.  That's part of being human.  However, I know God has spoken to me directly about this adventure.

As usual or in contrast to the past?

Judge for yourself.

----

Anyway, this is very likely my final post in my 20's as I am turning 30 years old in just 2 1/2 hours.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 29, 2012, 12:04:52 AM
This is my first post in my 30's!!  Mark it down.  :)  The 20's are no more.  They are history.  I am now at the very dawn of my 30's!!

I am going to enjoy this 4th decade of my life because I know the mid-life years are not that far off!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 29, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
I am going to enjoy this 4th decade of my life because I know the mid-life years are not that far off!

That's a bad thing, Bushie?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 29, 2012, 03:59:47 PM
I am going to enjoy this 4th decade of my life because I know the mid-life years are not that far off!

That's a bad thing, Bushie?

Not at all.  In fact, it is something to be embraced! I'm just thinking how short life really is!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 29, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 30, 2012, 01:43:18 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 30, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Maybe your FB friends, who think going to Kenya is the only acceptable answer are in the wrong?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on April 30, 2012, 03:07:19 PM
I wouldn't tell anyone to stay in Oklahoma, but compared with the alternative being discussed.... (not bathed in prayer)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 30, 2012, 03:08:43 PM
Bushie should join a charismatic church, not Southern Baptist.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on April 30, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Bushie should join a charismatic church, not Southern Baptist.
Yes. He should form a hipster church in Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 30, 2012, 05:30:55 PM
Bushie should join a charismatic church, not Southern Baptist.
Yes. He should form a hipster church in Kenya.

Someone should, but Bushie doesn't strike me as the best choice.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 30, 2012, 08:10:57 PM
Bushie should join a charismatic church, not Southern Baptist.
Yes. He should form a hipster church in Kenya.

That would make an awesome premise for a weekly situation comedy.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on April 30, 2012, 08:13:37 PM
Bushie should join a charismatic church, not Southern Baptist.
Yes. He should form a hipster church in Kenya.

Someone should, but Bushie doesn't strike me as the best choice.

Why not? you don't think Bushie is edgy and hip enough?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 30, 2012, 08:33:21 PM
Bushie should join a charismatic church, not Southern Baptist.
Yes. He should form a hipster church in Kenya.

Someone should, but Bushie doesn't strike me as the best choice.

Why not? you don't think Bushie is edgy and hip enough?

BRTD is right, I'm definitely not edgy or hip enough!

I'll stick with my more traditional Southern Baptist Congregation. Though, I have no problems with the charismatic churches as long as they preach the Bible in its entirety.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on April 30, 2012, 08:37:58 PM
So you would consider the hipster churches to be preaching heresy?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on April 30, 2012, 11:42:56 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.


No one is suggesting that your only options in life is the hell hole of a state you live in or Kenya..

What is being said is you should actually think rationally about what it instead of deciding what you want to do and labeling it as God told you to do it. 

You seem to have such strong feelings about certain things that you convince yourself God is telling you to do something when in fact no such thing is happening.  We have been down this road before, it never ends well....


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on April 30, 2012, 11:44:45 PM
You really should be more tolerant of BushOK's faith.

Why can't you trust that God is telling him to go to Kenya?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 01, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.


No one is suggesting that your only options in life is the hell hole of a state you live in or Kenya..

What is being said is you should actually think rationally about what it instead of deciding what you want to do and labeling it as God told you to do it. 

You seem to have such strong feelings about certain things that you convince yourself God is telling you to do something when in fact no such thing is happening.  We have been down this road before, it never ends well....

How are 100% certain that God is not calling me to Kenya?  You may have strong feelings against it yourself (representing the forum at-large), and that's fine. Opposing views are needed, encouraged, and I do welcome it.  What is true, though, is when it all boils down, you are just as certain that I should not go to Kenya as I am that I should go.  Because of that, I would like for the forum to tell me why I shouldn't go aside from telling me "God is not calling you".  You want me to give you tangible facts as to why I believe I am to go, which I have by telling you my purpose of going down there.  Return the favor and give me tangible facts and evidence as to why I should not go and leave the "God is not calling you" crap at home.  I will listen to opposing views if they are, not necessarily bathed in prayer (that was an anger reaction), but filled with tangible facts and evidence.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 01, 2012, 06:00:57 AM
Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Maybe your FB friends, who think going to Kenya is the only acceptable answer are in the wrong?

Well, it only makes sense to listen to FB friends. It's so much easier to get the answer you need, when you've purged those who don't share the same opinion. That's why I still have a ton of a-holes on my facebook.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 01, 2012, 08:09:05 AM
Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Maybe your FB friends, who think going to Kenya is the only acceptable answer are in the wrong?

Well, it only makes sense to listen to FB friends. It's so much easier to get the answer you need, when you've purged those who don't share the same opinion. That's why I still have a ton of a-holes on my facebook.

So does Bushie.....believe me.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 01, 2012, 08:21:45 AM
Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Maybe your FB friends, who think going to Kenya is the only acceptable answer are in the wrong?

Well, it only makes sense to listen to FB friends. It's so much easier to get the answer you need, when you've purged those who don't share the same opinion. That's why I still have a ton of a-holes on my facebook.

So does Bushie.....believe me.

I'm talking about the kind who tell me things I don't want to hear.. you know, opposite sides of the story.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 01, 2012, 08:30:18 AM
Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Maybe your FB friends, who think going to Kenya is the only acceptable answer are in the wrong?

Well, it only makes sense to listen to FB friends. It's so much easier to get the answer you need, when you've purged those who don't share the same opinion. That's why I still have a ton of a-holes on my facebook.

So does Bushie.....believe me.

I'm talking about the kind who tell me things I don't want to hear.. you know, opposite sides of the story.

Oh, well his a-holes just agree with everything...... :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 01, 2012, 08:48:12 AM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.


No one is suggesting that your only options in life is the hell hole of a state you live in or Kenya..

What is being said is you should actually think rationally about what it instead of deciding what you want to do and labeling it as God told you to do it. 

You seem to have such strong feelings about certain things that you convince yourself God is telling you to do something when in fact no such thing is happening.  We have been down this road before, it never ends well....

How are 100% certain that God is not calling me to Kenya?  You may have strong feelings against it yourself (representing the forum at-large), and that's fine. Opposing views are needed, encouraged, and I do welcome it.  What is true, though, is when it all boils down, you are just as certain that I should not go to Kenya as I am that I should go.  Because of that, I would like for the forum to tell me why I shouldn't go aside from telling me "God is not calling you".  You want me to give you tangible facts as to why I believe I am to go, which I have by telling you my purpose of going down there.  Return the favor and give me tangible facts and evidence as to why I should not go and leave the "God is not calling you" crap at home.  I will listen to opposing views if they are, not necessarily bathed in prayer (that was an anger reaction), but filled with tangible facts and evidence.


Right...

You're confusing frustration with your constant avoidable mistakes with something against people of faith or who claim some kind 'connection' to God.

What is clear, is that you are immature for someone your age, you rely on others to justify your decisions, you have people around you who coddle you and who encourage you to not have any FAITH IN YOURSELF. Instead to put faith in something else...

This is your first overseas trip, you enjoyed it  and that's great. However, you've taken it to an extreme conclusion. What you're probably feeling is wanderlust, this is especially true when it's your first real excursion away from home. It's a sign that you're ready to experience MORE, but that doesn't mean that you have to shift your entire life to that extent. And I think that's telling of your immaturity, that you are unable to recognise that.

You maybe don't realise how sheltered your life has been?

As to the evidence... of course I cannot tell you that God isn't telling you to go, any more than you can tell me that God is telling you to go... because I believe you're trying to justify your misdirected wanderlust as God-driven... as opposed to enjoying your time away and you think the way to make yourself feel that all the time... is to return full time.

Moving to a foreign country is hard... you need to prove that YOU can do a job that no one in Kenya can do. Not impossible but Kenya is one of the most IT-savvy country in sub-Saharan Africa, plus Kenya is also being flooded with MBAs from the Middle-East and other parts of Africa.

Now, the thing about the children... you are a sponsor parent... but in no way does that give you any kind of parental rights, nor should it. A single-man CANNOT adopt children under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

You may want evidence as to why God isn't telling you... but that's you trying to not face the cold hard facts.

You might want to look at this as being cruel... but the fact you're going into this with such clear blinkers on... someone needs to make sure you're aware of the sheer facts...

So for God's sake, go experience more of the world, wanting that feeling of a new place and sensation is very important and it's a great learning experience.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 01, 2012, 09:04:33 AM
BushOK, don't listen to the naysayers on atlas who would have you contradict God's message to you.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: k-onmmunist on May 01, 2012, 09:43:16 AM
i have a HUGE opportunity too. wink wink, nudge nudge


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 01, 2012, 04:34:45 PM
So for God's sake, go experience more of the world, wanting that feeling of a new place and sensation is very important and it's a great learning experience.

Yeah, I wonder if Bushie would consider visiting one other non-Western country before deciding that the first one he visits is where he wants to spend the rest of his life.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on May 01, 2012, 04:42:21 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Calm down - I didn't see you ever answer the question.  I'm merely asking, specifically (as in a quote, or close to it) what God said.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 01, 2012, 05:23:21 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Calm down - I didn't see you ever answer the question.  I'm merely asking, specifically (as in a quote, or close to it) what God said.

I apologize for getting up in arms about it.

The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on May 01, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
When did she speak to you?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 01, 2012, 07:33:48 PM
Jeff, you never addressed my question: If you don't go to Kenya, does that mean God changed his mind?

No, it would mean I read it wrong.  I don't forsee that happening, though.

But didn't you say he verbally spoke to you?

Exactly.  Read two things - read the second sentence of the quoted post and read my previous post in response to jmfcst's question.

OK.  But you said he spoke to you.  If he verbally spoke to you, what exactly did he say?  "Jeff, go to Kenya" or something you ahd to interpret?

I am not going to keep answering your questions. Obviously, you either don't belive that God still speaks to His children or you refuse to accept any answer I provide. I know what God told me so people need to accept that.

Besides, this forum thinks the only acceptable answer is to stay in Oklahoma. They refuse to consider that God sometimes asks His children to do things that go against societal thinking.

Calm down - I didn't see you ever answer the question.  I'm merely asking, specifically (as in a quote, or close to it) what God said.

I apologize for getting up in arms about it.

The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

Yikes... God sounds like he does in the 10 Commandments!... and the Simpsons.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 01, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
He spoke to me the night I got home on Monday, 26 March 2012 and reinforced the next morning and throughout the remainder of March.

A graduate degree update:  I am going to postpone my Master's Degree.  I'm not cancelling it, but I am going to postpone it for a year or so.  With my new work schedule, I have to work Saturdays 8-7 beginning this Saturday, 5 May.  My GMAT exam was scheduled for Saturday, 19 May 2012.  I did not feel like taking vacation for that, so I am going to push it back a year to beginning in August 2013.  In the next 15 months, I am going to focus a lot on getting certifications which will help my career here more than an MBA will.  I am getting the MBA to give myself a better opportunity in Kenya.  I have, for now, postponed the GMAT exam until probably next Spring (date uncertain) and pushed the MBA to start August 2013.  This will probably push me going to Kenya until Autumn 2015 or possibly Spring 2016, but I am still going, but it may not be quite when I thought.

Speaking of certifications:  I've already passed my ITIL v3 last Wednesday and I am taking my Security+ exam tomorrow in West Edmond.  I will probably try to get another certification maybe in September or October and one more before Christmas.  The ITIL and Security+ are required for my job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 01, 2012, 07:42:44 PM
Skip the degree and certifications and just go off to Africa now.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on May 01, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
A month from now, the MBA will be pushed back to the spring of 2014, Kenya to 2016, and this will continue in such fashion until Bushie's hallucinations God gives him a new goal.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 01, 2012, 07:50:55 PM
A month from now, the MBA will be pushed back to the spring of 2014, Kenya to 2016, and this will continue in such fashion until Bushie's hallucinations God gives him a new goal.

We shall see!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 01, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
Skip the degree and certifications and just go off to Africa now.

I've still got a lot of work to do in Oklahoma, first!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 01, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Skip the degree and certifications and just go off to Africa now.

I've still got a lot of work to do in Oklahoma, first!
No. Bringing the word to the dark continent should be your first priority.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 01, 2012, 08:47:35 PM
I couldn't hold it any longer.  I only switched to the Republican Party to vote in their primary.  I am switching back to the Democratic Party where my views are more closely aligned.  I am still voting for Mitt Romney, but only narrowly over President Obama.  We don't have the best choices, but we don't have the worst choices this year, either.

If President Obama wins, I will not be disappointed at all.

I am voting for Mitt Romney, but Democratic, most likely, on most of the downballot races.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 01, 2012, 10:32:37 PM
Why didn't you choose Paul instead? He'd actually be conservative unlike Mittens.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Eraserhead on May 02, 2012, 02:47:24 AM
I like letting 15-20 pages pop up in this thread and then settling in for a nice read. It's a good way to unwind.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Republic on May 02, 2012, 03:19:48 AM
Is this Bushie's autobiography?


http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog/unlikely/196

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Following Jeffrey Brown's debut hit, Clumsy, Unlikely continues to explore the nature of relationships in this story of how Jeffrey Brown lost his virginity. A full-length graphic novel of excruciating detail and intimacy, drawn in an awkward style that both disarms the reader and heightens the emotional impact of the work.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2012, 08:13:06 AM
Skip the degree and certifications and just go off to Africa now.

I agree with the troll.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 02, 2012, 01:01:17 PM
Quote
The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

Well my skeptical God is whispering to me at this very moment, that the above is either 1) BS, or 2) a symptom of schizophrenia or certain variants of bipolar psychosis. I just can't manage to get in "the spirit" with all of this.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
There is no such thing as luck and there is no such thing as chance.  I do not believe in those. 

that's odd, because God DOES believe in chance:

Ecclesiastes 9:11 "I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance  happen to them all."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 02, 2012, 01:20:58 PM
There is no such thing as luck and there is no such thing as chance.  I do not believe in those.

that's odd, because God DOES believe in chance:

Ecclesiastes 9:11 "I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance  happen to them all."


I was not aware of this verse. I stand corrected. I will have to do some more research!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

sorry, I haven't kept up with this thread, but this "commission" is simply a bunch of quotes from scripture mingled together:

"...Be still, and know that I am God... Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."


Psalm 46:10 “Be still, and know that I am God” (KJV, verbatim)


Deuteronomy 31:6 “Be strong and of a good courage” (KJV, verbatim)


Matthew 10:30 “And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.”

"Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything"

Mat 6:25-28; Luke 12:22-29 “Do not worry”

I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen."

Jer 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;  Before you came to birth I consecrated you; I appointed you as prophet to the nations.”



Etc, etc, etc.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

also, has anyone else recognized the fact that Bushie is 30 years old, the same age for as Jesus was when he began his ministry (Luke 3:23)?

Bushie, why haven't you mentioned this commission before?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

Bushie, aside from being uncommonly long-winded, I don't recall any example in scripture of a commission that quotes bible verses, esp so many bible verses.   Even in the account of commissions given within the NT, there is no example of God using so many bible quotes even though God had the entire OT from which to quote.

In fact, my commission was very to the point and concise, even though it included an answer to my question followed by a commission:

It was the ability to spiritual perceive this spiritual battle that caused me, right then and there, to believe the couple of chapters of Galatians I had been reading.  And then the spiritual insight panned over to my life and the multiple events separated by years in my life (how I used to watch Armstrong’s TV program in my early teens, how I met a friend in college who was a member of Armstrong’s church, how through him I had met my girlfriend who had prompted me to look into this thing) that brought me to this point of belief. And when I enquired to myself if all these events were engineered for the purpose to bring me to believe n Christ, God poured out his spirit into my heart and answered the question himself, “Yes, that is the reason why.  Now go and tell them the truth.”  

…while pacing in my living room having just accepted belief in Christ… I asked a question to myself, “Is that why all these things happened and why she was brought into my life, so that I would believe?” …And in that instance, God spoke to me in my heart and answered my question, “Yes, that is the reason why.  Now go and tell them the truth.”

So, my question “Is this why [all these things] had been brought into my life, so that I would believe?” was very loaded and included events going back to when I was a teenager.  Immediately after I asked that I received the Holy Spirit and God spoke to me and said, “Yes, that is the reason why.  Now go and tell them the truth.”


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 03:15:37 PM
The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

also, if you strip out the direct bible quotes (including God's apparent preference for the KJV, even though it is 2012), the rest of it is pretty poorly written, being somewhat of a vague ramble with some platitudes (bible quotes) thrown in to give it the appearance of authority, but it just doesn't have the laser-like focus of authority that a word from God has.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2012, 03:22:10 PM
You'd be defriended from his FB, jmf.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 03:24:46 PM
You'd be defriended from his FB, jmf.

and de-brothered from his church, no doubt


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 02, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
You'd be defriended from his FB, jmf.
Indeed. And rightfully so. Why should he consort with naysayers?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 02, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
You'd be defriended from his FB, jmf.

But isn't his advise bathed in prayer?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 02, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
You'd be defriended from his FB, jmf.

But isn't his advise bathed in prayer?

yes, but I determine truth neither by praying nor by watching the direction o fthe wind.  Rather I use prayer to make requests and to have God explore my motives.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2012, 03:47:02 PM
You'd be defriended from his FB, jmf.

But isn't his advise bathed in prayer?

yes, but I determine truth neither by praying nor by watching the direction o fthe wind.  Rather I use prayer to make requests and to have God explore my motives.

Yep, you'd get the Bushie axe.   :P


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on May 02, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
I never thought I'd say this, but this thread has improved significantly since jmfcst started posting in it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
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The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

Well my skeptical God is whispering to me at this very moment, that the above is either 1) BS, or 2) a symptom of schizophrenia or certain variants of bipolar psychosis. I just can't manage to get in "the spirit" with all of this.

2.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 02, 2012, 09:29:17 PM
The quote was "I have prepared you for 30 years for this big move.  Be still, and know that I am God, Be strong and of a good courage.  I have work left for you in Oklahoma, but you will not be a permanent resident of Oklahoma.  These men at Maisha need your help.  Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything, I've got you in my arms.  Every hair on your head is numbered.  I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen.  Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."

sorry, I haven't kept up with this thread, but this "commission" is simply a bunch of quotes from scripture mingled together:

"...Be still, and know that I am God... Be Still, and Know that I am GOD."


Psalm 46:10 “Be still, and know that I am God” (KJV, verbatim)


Deuteronomy 31:6 “Be strong and of a good courage” (KJV, verbatim)


Matthew 10:30 “And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.”

"Don't worry about how you will get down there and don't worry about anything"

Mat 6:25-28; Luke 12:22-29 “Do not worry”

I know every thing about every one of your days before they even happen."

Jer 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;  Before you came to birth I consecrated you; I appointed you as prophet to the nations.”



Etc, etc, etc.


God doesn't have one specific template for how He speaks to His children.  WHy shouldn't He use Scripture?  He is the Author of Scripture and Scripture is 100% accurate.

Plus, John 1:1 says "In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and Word WAS God."

When God speaks Scripture to me, He is basically speaking Himself as God the Son.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on May 02, 2012, 10:54:07 PM
He is the Author of Scripture and Scripture is 100% accurate.

Says who? 

(Dear Others, I am not intending to kick up a theological debate...without revealing my hand too much, I hope its apparent to all those here with grey cells in the plural what I'm trying to find out).



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on May 02, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
I never thought I'd say this, but this thread has improved significantly since jmfcst started posting in it.

While I don't endorse the implications of the first clause, I certainly agree with the second.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 03, 2012, 09:33:20 AM
God doesn't have one specific template for how He speaks to His children.  WHy shouldn't He use Scripture?  He is the Author of Scripture and Scripture is 100% accurate.

Plus, John 1:1 says "In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and Word WAS God."

When God speaks Scripture to me, He is basically speaking Himself as God the Son.

granted God doesn't have a specific template, but seeing that of all the scriptural examples which show God giving commissions to people without God feeling the need to includes quotes of scripture within those commissions, this sure has the appearance of something you made up and laced with KJV bible quotes to make it look authentic.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 03, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
He is the Author of Scripture and Scripture is 100% accurate.

Says who? 

(Dear Others, I am not intending to kick up a theological debate...without revealing my hand too much, I hope its apparent to all those here with grey cells in the plural what I'm trying to find out).



If God is the author, then the accuracy bit rather logically follows. Per my reading, nobody knows who wrote most of the Bible with the exception of a couple of books, and as to those, nobody knows much about the authors except their identity. So the first assumption is where the Big Leap of Faith is embedded. If God were the author of it all, he is a bit of a schizophrenic himself - an ass kicking martinet into capital punishment one day, and a forgiving loving type the next - a veritable Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 03, 2012, 10:36:55 AM
If God were the author of it all, he is a bit of a schizophrenic himself - an ass kicking martinet into capital punishment one day, and a forgiving loving type the next - a veritable Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Torie, Torie, Torie...the executions of the OT are a prefiguration of the coming Judgement, and serve as examples to warn us that we can't mock God.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 03, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
If God were the author of it all, he is a bit of a schizophrenic himself - an ass kicking martinet into capital punishment one day, and a forgiving loving type the next - a veritable Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Torie, Torie, Torie...the executions of the OT are a prefiguration of the coming Judgement, and serve as examples to warn us that we can't mock God.

Or the author or authors, in either the first draft, or the modified draft, or the one that was interlineated by someone later due to marketing needs at the time, which interlineations then became part of the text, were just in a bad mood that day. So many possibilities, so little time.

In the meantime, for some reason God has showered far more than I deserve upon moi, even as I basically ignore him. All very odd.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 03, 2012, 11:05:11 AM
If God were the author of it all, he is a bit of a schizophrenic himself - an ass kicking martinet into capital punishment one day, and a forgiving loving type the next - a veritable Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Torie, Torie, Torie...the executions of the OT are a prefiguration of the coming Judgement, and serve as examples to warn us that we can't mock God.

Or the author or authors, in either the first draft, or the modified draft, or the one that was interlineated by someone later due to marketing needs at the time, which interlineations then became part of the text, were just in a bad mood that day. So many possibilities, so little time.

Since we are here to promote logic, it is undeniable that both the OT and NT believe in a coming Judgment.  And the both the OT and NT state that the old covenant would be superseded by a new covenant.  So both OT and NT are on the same page.

To claim the underlying mindset of the bible is the work of multiple minds, is to be purposely dismissive of its deeply embedded connectivity and cohesiveness that is either explicitly stated or can be logically deduced.  And such purposeful ignorance would be most illogical, Councilor Torie.

Clearly, the books of the bible have to have a single author because they deeply profound and are interdependent, not standing on their own - much like the forces of nature are interdependent.  One would not claim the forces of nature themselves are the collaboration of the followers of science, that would be absurd – the laws are too remarkable, too profound to be the work of the human mind, and too interwoven to be the work of a committee, esp a committee of several dozen throwbacks seperated by a timespan of hundreds or even thousands of years.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Brittain33 on May 03, 2012, 11:15:12 AM
Since we are here to promote logic, it is undeniable that both the OT and NT believe in a coming Judgment.  And the both the OT and NT state that the old covenant would be superseded by a new covenant.  So both OT and NT are on the same page.

To claim the underlying mindset of the bible is the work of multiple minds, is to be purposely dismissive of its deeply embedded connectivity and cohesiveness that is either explicitly stated or can be logically deduced.  And such purposeful ignorance would be most illogical, Councilor Torie.

Clearly, the books of the bible have to have a single author because they deeply profound and are interdependent, not standing on their own - much like the forces of nature are interdependent.  One would not claim the forces of nature themselves are the collaboration of the followers of science, that would be absurd – the laws are too remarkable, too profound to be the work of the human mind, and too interwoven to be the work of a committee, esp a committee of several dozen throwbacks seperated by a timespan of hundreds or even thousands of years.


How does this account for multiple competing creation stories in Genesis and the use of different names for God in sequence?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 03, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
If God were the author of it all, he is a bit of a schizophrenic himself - an ass kicking martinet into capital punishment one day, and a forgiving loving type the next - a veritable Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Torie, Torie, Torie...the executions of the OT are a prefiguration of the coming Judgement, and serve as examples to warn us that we can't mock God.

Or the author or authors, in either the first draft, or the modified draft, or the one that was interlineated by someone later due to marketing needs at the time, which interlineations then became part of the text, were just in a bad mood that day. So many possibilities, so little time.

Since we are here to promote logic, it is undeniable that both the OT and NT believe in a coming Judgment.  And the both the OT and NT state that the old covenant would be superseded by a new covenant.  So both OT and NT are on the same page.

To claim the underlying mindset of the bible is the work of multiple minds, is to be purposely dismissive of its deeply embedded connectivity and cohesiveness that is either explicitly stated or can be logically deduced.  And such purposeful ignorance would be most illogical, Councilor Torie.

Clearly, the books of the bible have to have a single author because they deeply profound and are interdependent, not standing on their own - much like the forces of nature are interdependent.  One would not claim the forces of nature themselves are the collaboration of the followers of science, that would be absurd – the laws are too remarkable, too profound to be the work of the human mind, and too interwoven to be the work of a committee, esp a committee of several dozen throwbacks seperated by a timespan of hundreds or even thousands of years.


Read this book (http://www.amazon.com/The-Bible-As-Literature-Introduction/dp/0195179072/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336062055&sr=8-2) and get back to me jmfcst, which got kick ass reviews. Sometimes, securing a greater understanding and knowledge requires reading more than one book. I'm about half way through it myself. I am going slowly, because I am reading the sometimes rather complex text closely. Hey, after you have read it, we can discuss it on the religion board if you like. Beyond God's vacillations on whether to be hard or soft on crime, another is the oscillations between Apocalypse now, Apocalypse later, and what Apocalypse, we have better things to do than waste time on such idle speculations as to whether or not we need to worry about paying off our debts because the secular world might end before the notes we made become due. It's all there. Cheers.

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Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 03, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
Read this book (http://www.amazon.com/The-Bible-As-Literature-Introduction/dp/0195179072/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336062055&sr=8-2) and get back to me jmfcst, which got kick ass reviews. Sometimes, securing a greater understanding and knowledge requires reading more than one book. I'm about half way through it myself. I am going slowly, because I am reading the sometimes rather complex text closely. Hey, after you have read it, we can discuss it on the religion board if you like. Beyond God's vacillations on whether to be hard or soft on crime, another is the osscillations between apocolypse now, apocolypse  later, and well, we have better things to do than waste time on such idle speculations as whether we need to worry about paying off our debts or not because the secular world might end before the notes we made become due. It's all there. Cheers.

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You want me to read that book?  How about I allow you to finish gleaning and arming yourself with this book’s great knowledge, written, I am sure, by an author with ever surpassing insight.  How about I just kick my feet up until you decide when you’re ready to rumble.  At such time, you and your BENGAY-lubed mind can bring whatever books you want to the fight.  

I, on the other hand, will bring with me my usual ordnance: I will stand with belt of truth buckled around my waist, with the breastplate of righteousness and love in place, and the hope of salvation as a helmet, in truthful speech and in the power of God; with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and in the left.  But my weapons are not the weapons of this world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds, to expose foolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, to take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And I will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 03, 2012, 11:58:10 AM
You are not going to read the book then jmfcst?  Are you fearful of reading material that might challenge your beliefs?  Be brave jmfcst. Courage is the most noble of virtues. I am never so happy as when I am reading texts written by very smart people on the Left. Being challenged, and then challenged some more, turns me on. How about you?

In any event, it is more productive if a discussion focuses on one text at a time.  That way there is a common point of departure. It keeps matters focused. Focus is our friend.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 03, 2012, 12:22:02 PM
You are not going to read the book then jmfcst?  Are you fearful of reading material that might challenge your beliefs?  Be brave jmfcst. Courage is the most noble of virtues. I am never so happy as when I am reading texts written by very smart people on the Left. Being challenged, and then challenged some more, turns me on. How about you?

In any event, it is more productive if a discussion focuses on one text at a time.  That way there is a common point of departure. It keeps matters focused. Focus is our friend.

Dude, the fact that you’re even reading that book, searching for an argument against the bible, is a sign that you are the one living in fear.  Me?  I don’t have that problem, for God has provided my provision, and I have come off the bench stone cold into battle countless times, unaware of what arguments lie before me, and being armed with only the bible for knowledge…yet I’ve never met an adversary whose arguments could forge against me what we Christians call “a prosperous weapon”.  I do however long for a good challenge, so I can only hope, with the entire world’s knowledge at your disposal to muster against me, that there might be some argument you could find that’s up to the task.  


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 03, 2012, 12:31:34 PM
I was not anticipating some sort of sanguinary gladiatorial fight to the death for the amusement of the mob jmfcst, but rather something more on the lines of a civil discussion, with a common point of departure. Some other time perhaps.  

Oh, you are ascribing motives to me vis a vis the book that are errant, but I digress.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 03, 2012, 01:37:33 PM
I was not anticipating some sort of sanguinary gladiatorial fight to the death for the amusement of the mob jmfcst

wrong movie, bro

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but rather something more on the lines of a civil discussion, with a common point of departure.

dude, after reading it, just wake me up when you're willing to bring forth what you consider to be the book's best arguments. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on May 03, 2012, 02:05:06 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 03, 2012, 02:46:04 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 04, 2012, 07:50:09 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 05, 2012, 07:59:56 AM
How is that a new story line?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 05, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!

When you present your saga/novel to a publisher, the first thing they will say is to lose this section, which is repetitive, and mundane, unless of course you obsess to the point where it becomes yet another interesting exploration of a portfolio of psychological disorders. In other words, if you are going to go there, it had better be good.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 05, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
In the BushOK movie, his Christmas obsession would be something shown in the opening credit montage.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 05, 2012, 02:21:40 PM

It's definitely not new as in brand spanking new, but it is a change from the storyline of the past 30 pages or so.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on May 05, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!

Christmas isn't for more than 6 months...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on May 05, 2012, 02:52:56 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!
That's not a new storyline, that's a recurring symbol.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on May 05, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!

When you present your saga/novel to a publisher, the first thing they will say is to lose this section, which is repetitive, and mundane, unless of course you obsess to the point where it becomes yet another interesting exploration of a portfolio of psychological disorders. In other words, if you are going to go there, it had better be good.
I think it functions as comedic relief, to balance out the other heavy stuff that Bushie talks about.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 05, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!

Christmas isn't for more than 6 months...

What's that got to do with it? :P


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 05, 2012, 04:50:37 PM
The trivial is planned months in advance, the major decisions of one's life are done impulsively on the spur of the moment. That might not be the best path to the most self actualizing life - either in the serving of others, and most importantly yourself, because if you don't adequately serve yourself, in general you will be rather unfit to serve others. Just a thought.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on May 05, 2012, 06:08:08 PM
The trivial is planned months in advance, the major decisions of one's life are done impulsively on the spur of the moment.

Spot on and a nice succinct summary of the thread(s).  Our friend Bushie tries to couch his leaps with a sense of order and planning but usually he just becomes impatient and plunges.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: bullmoose88 on May 05, 2012, 10:33:04 PM
The trivial is planned months in advance, the major decisions of one's life are done impulsively on the spur of the moment.

Spot on and a nice succinct summary of the thread(s).  Our friend Bushie tries to couch his leaps with a sense of order and planning but usually he just becomes impatient and plunges.

Because God said his impatient and irrational whims are His will.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 06, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
Bushie, good news!  Your fellow countryman won the Pittsburgh Marathon today!!!! (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/weather-nearly-perfect-for-race-day-634651/)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 06, 2012, 11:08:16 AM
Bushie, good news!  Your fellow countryman won the Pittsburgh Marathon today!!!! (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/weather-nearly-perfect-for-race-day-634651/)

Very cool! :)

You know, people may call me crazy for my very early start on Christmas, but as I told someone on facebook yesterday or the day before, I love being crazy. :)

As you may have found out, I like to do things that are not ordinary.  I don't like running with the crowd.  I like to stand out and be different, even if I stick out like a sore thumb.  Moving to Kenya is definitely not ordinary.  Starting Christmas before Memorial Day is definitely not ordinary.  Counting down to all kinds of dates is definitely not ordinary.  You know what, though?  All of those things are what makes me who I am.  I am proud to be different.  I am proud to swim upstream.  I may fall flat on my face every now and then, but that will never stop me from being different.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on May 06, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
These stupid Kenyans, they just let all of them run, if we had better resources we'd be winning!

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Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 06, 2012, 07:40:37 PM
Tomorrow, Monday, 7 May 2012 at 13:00, I will be meeting with the Maisha Founder and Kenya Team Coordinator at her office in Downtown, Oklahoma City.  I'm super excited about meeting with her as we get a prayer plan and a game plan together for this major endeavor.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Sbane on May 06, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
What's a prayer plan?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 06, 2012, 09:16:10 PM

And what major endeavor?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Meeker on May 06, 2012, 10:17:42 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!

Christmas isn't for more than 6 months...

I see you're new to these threads.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on May 06, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
Fellows- let's put our differences aside and remember our main goal- helping Bushie.

I support Straha's advice because we need a new storyline :)

You want a new storyline? Well, how about this for starters: In 2 weeks on Friday, 18 May 2012, I will be beginning my Christmas 2012 Preparations.  I will be starting my weekly browsing of Hobby Lobby, who will soon start dedicating a partial aisle to Christmas Decorations! I will also be planning for the Fourth of July, as well!

Christmas isn't for more than 6 months...

I see you're new to these threads.

I've noticed it for awhile, but I'm still in disbelief that this is really how a real person lives their life.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smash255 on May 07, 2012, 12:04:52 AM

Tricking yourself into believing God is talking to you??


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 07, 2012, 05:33:05 AM

And what's a Downtown, Oklahoma City?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 07, 2012, 12:23:19 PM

A prayer plan is figuring out specifically what to pray for.

A major endeavor is moving to Kenya.

A Downtown, Oklahoma City is Downtown Oklahoma City except with a comma in the wrong spot.  Yes, believe it or not, Oklahoma City does have a pretty big downtown area.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 07, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
Good Monday Evening! I had a wonderful meeting with the founder of Maisha, Beatrice, this afternoon and she gave me some challenges and stuff to pray for and start doing! She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child, (3) She encouraged me in late 2013 or early 2014 to go down there for a month or so to get a feel and assess what life would be like down there without the comfort of a team with me, (4) encouraged me to start interning with them in my spare time researching links for grants to fund the volunteer house, as well as projects in the slums, (5) start researching housing down there, such as renting a house or an apartment in Kisumu, and (6) not sell everything in America because I may want to come back every now and then to visit, (7) research missionary funding for 1, 2, 3, and 5 year terms. She wants me to continue to communicate with her as I have questions and as she thinks of something that might be useful. She wants to see me in a couple weeks before she leaves for Kenya on June 3 for two months.  She also wants me to still email her while she's down there so if I have questions or want her to check on something, she can do it in person.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 08, 2012, 01:44:32 AM
That's surprisingly good advice actually, particularly the part about spending an extended time there on your own.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 08, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child,

Hopefully, they do their homework on this.  No idea if Kenya has these same issues, but this is quite the eye opening report on adoption in Ethiopia:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304811304577368243366708110.html

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The experience recounted by Mel's biological father, Mathewos Delebo, shows many of the complexities. Mr. Delebo, a 38-year-old farmer, acknowledges freely giving up his youngest child for adoption. Earlier this year, in the mud-hut village of Le-barfeta in southeastern Ethiopia where he lives, he described why he did it.

Four years ago, he claimed, a stranger—a middleman in the adoption trade—came to his village and persuaded him to give up a child with the promise that she would grow up and send money to support him. "White people are taking children of the poor and helping them get a better life," Mr. Delebo said he was told. "It will be good for you."

Mr. Delebo claimed he didn't understand that he was giving up Mel for good, and thought that she would send money home. Mr. Delebo doesn't recall the middleman's name and hasn't seen him for years.
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A U.S. investigation of Ethiopian adoptions in 2009 and 2010 found inaccurate adoptee paperwork and orphanages using financial incentives to recruit children. The U.S. embassy found anecdotal evidence that scouts purporting to be state health workers weighed infants, then took them away from their parents on the pretext that the children weren't receiving adequate care. Ethiopian families often are solicited with promises that a relinquished child will become affluent and provide for the family left behind, said Ms. Jacobs, the U.S. adoption chief.

Basically, there's something of a culture clash of expectations here, with the concepts of Western adoption being foreign to these families, they don't quite understand that putting their kids up for adoption means that you're likely permanently severing existing family ties.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 08, 2012, 07:52:46 AM
That's surprisingly good advice actually, particularly the part about spending an extended time there on your own.

I was delighted when she mentioned that.  I just have to figure out how to make that happen at work and she mentioned trying to get an overseas community service outing coupled with my 2 weeks vacation, I could go down there for 3 1/2 - 4 weeks and come back and not miss anything.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 08, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
Good Monday Evening! I had a wonderful meeting with the founder of Maisha, Beatrice, this afternoon and she gave me some challenges and stuff to pray for and start doing! She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child, (3) She encouraged me in late 2013 or early 2014 to go down there for a month or so to get a feel and assess what life would be like down there without the comfort of a team with me, (4) encouraged me to start interning with them in my spare time researching links for grants to fund the volunteer house, as well as projects in the slums, (5) start researching housing down there, such as renting a house or an apartment in Kisumu, and (6) not sell everything in America because I may want to come back every now and then to visit, (7) research missionary funding for 1, 2, 3, and 5 year terms. She wants me to continue to communicate with her as I have questions and as she thinks of something that might be useful. She wants to see me in a couple weeks before she leaves for Kenya on June 3 for two months.  She also wants me to still email her while she's down there so if I have questions or want her to check on something, she can do it in person.

sound advice, for a change.  i take it she doesn't go to your church.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 08, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Good Monday Evening! I had a wonderful meeting with the founder of Maisha, Beatrice, this afternoon and she gave me some challenges and stuff to pray for and start doing! She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child, (3) She encouraged me in late 2013 or early 2014 to go down there for a month or so to get a feel and assess what life would be like down there without the comfort of a team with me, (4) encouraged me to start interning with them in my spare time researching links for grants to fund the volunteer house, as well as projects in the slums, (5) start researching housing down there, such as renting a house or an apartment in Kisumu, and (6) not sell everything in America because I may want to come back every now and then to visit, (7) research missionary funding for 1, 2, 3, and 5 year terms. She wants me to continue to communicate with her as I have questions and as she thinks of something that might be useful. She wants to see me in a couple weeks before she leaves for Kenya on June 3 for two months.  She also wants me to still email her while she's down there so if I have questions or want her to check on something, she can do it in person.

sound advice, for a change.  i take it she doesn't go to your church.

No, she doesn't.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 08, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
Good Monday Evening! I had a wonderful meeting with the founder of Maisha, Beatrice, this afternoon and she gave me some challenges and stuff to pray for and start doing! She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child, (3) She encouraged me in late 2013 or early 2014 to go down there for a month or so to get a feel and assess what life would be like down there without the comfort of a team with me, (4) encouraged me to start interning with them in my spare time researching links for grants to fund the volunteer house, as well as projects in the slums, (5) start researching housing down there, such as renting a house or an apartment in Kisumu, and (6) not sell everything in America because I may want to come back every now and then to visit, (7) research missionary funding for 1, 2, 3, and 5 year terms. She wants me to continue to communicate with her as I have questions and as she thinks of something that might be useful. She wants to see me in a couple weeks before she leaves for Kenya on June 3 for two months.  She also wants me to still email her while she's down there so if I have questions or want her to check on something, she can do it in person.

sound advice, for a change.  i take it she doesn't go to your church.

No, she doesn't.

Did you delete her from your FB page for giving reasonable advice?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 08, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
Good Monday Evening! I had a wonderful meeting with the founder of Maisha, Beatrice, this afternoon and she gave me some challenges and stuff to pray for and start doing! She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child, (3) She encouraged me in late 2013 or early 2014 to go down there for a month or so to get a feel and assess what life would be like down there without the comfort of a team with me, (4) encouraged me to start interning with them in my spare time researching links for grants to fund the volunteer house, as well as projects in the slums, (5) start researching housing down there, such as renting a house or an apartment in Kisumu, and (6) not sell everything in America because I may want to come back every now and then to visit, (7) research missionary funding for 1, 2, 3, and 5 year terms. She wants me to continue to communicate with her as I have questions and as she thinks of something that might be useful. She wants to see me in a couple weeks before she leaves for Kenya on June 3 for two months.  She also wants me to still email her while she's down there so if I have questions or want her to check on something, she can do it in person.

sound advice, for a change.  i take it she doesn't go to your church.

No, she doesn't.

Did you delete her from your FB page for giving reasonable advice?

Nope


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 10, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
Good Monday Evening! I had a wonderful meeting with the founder of Maisha, Beatrice, this afternoon and she gave me some challenges and stuff to pray for and start doing! She said (1) they are working on funding for a volunteer housing center near the orphanage, (2) there is a family who is starting to save up to move down there for 2 years to adopt a child, (3) She encouraged me in late 2013 or early 2014 to go down there for a month or so to get a feel and assess what life would be like down there without the comfort of a team with me, (4) encouraged me to start interning with them in my spare time researching links for grants to fund the volunteer house, as well as projects in the slums, (5) start researching housing down there, such as renting a house or an apartment in Kisumu, and (6) not sell everything in America because I may want to come back every now and then to visit, (7) research missionary funding for 1, 2, 3, and 5 year terms. She wants me to continue to communicate with her as I have questions and as she thinks of something that might be useful. She wants to see me in a couple weeks before she leaves for Kenya on June 3 for two months.  She also wants me to still email her while she's down there so if I have questions or want her to check on something, she can do it in person.

sound advice, for a change.  i take it she doesn't go to your church.

No, she doesn't.

Did you delete her from your FB page for giving reasonable advice?

Nope

The more I think about the advice I was given, the more I smile.  I really think her advice is very sound and very doable.  I am going to get started with the research of the links this coming Monday, 14 May 2012 and will also start putting a timeline to the game plan.  The way I'm thinking right now, I would like to try to go to Kenya for 4-6 weeks in March 2014.  What I'm thinking is when the team goes in March 2014, I will just stay there for an extra 3-4 weeks before coming home sometime in the middle of April.  I will then try to move down there for at least two or three years in the summer 2015 and come home in time for the 2018 mid-term elections.  What I would like to do, really, is starting in the Summer 2015 is go down there for 2-3 years, come home for 1 year, go back down there another 2-3 years, come back home for a year, and keep repeating the cycle for 20-30 years and then maybe come back home to Oklahoma for good sometime in my late 50s or early 60s (somewhere around 2040, give or take a few years).  I'm just throwing out what I would like to do.  I don't know if this is God's will or not, yet, I'm just throwing this out there as something I would like to do.  All I know right now is that I'm supposed to go down there.  What I don't know is the exact timing.  It is very likely that I won't know the timing until I move along through the years.  I will have a game plan, but the game plan may very well change.  Many times, God only shows His children one step at a time so we don't see the whole picture and possibly get scared and turn back when we see how daunting the road ahead looks.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on May 14, 2012, 06:07:31 PM
so bushie has come to the realization that he doesnt have african children?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 14, 2012, 06:36:21 PM
so bushie has come to the realization that he doesnt have african children?

I'm thinking it is possible. I'm missing my bushie fix ever since I got the big delete.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 14, 2012, 10:50:03 PM
so bushie has come to the realization that he doesnt have african children?

Not hardly.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 14, 2012, 11:55:13 PM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 15, 2012, 02:59:48 AM
I wasn't aware that God is in the money printing business.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 15, 2012, 03:28:29 AM
I wasn't aware that God is in the money printing business.

God is a devoted Keynesian.  By all rights, opebo should be his biggest fan.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Insula Dei on May 15, 2012, 04:51:16 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

Does this happen outside of movies?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 15, 2012, 05:55:02 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

Does this happen outside of movies?

No, it happens all the time according to my email inbox.  The next step involves Bushie giving his personal information and bank account number to the anonymous donor so he can transfer the money.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 15, 2012, 07:02:17 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

Does this happen outside of movies?

No, it happens all the time according to my email inbox.  The next step involves Bushie giving his personal information and bank account number to the anonymous donor so he can transfer the money.


This is true. Only good things can come from this.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 15, 2012, 08:36:08 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

Does this happen outside of movies?

No, it happens all the time according to my email inbox.  The next step involves Bushie giving his personal information and bank account number to the anonymous donor so he can transfer the money.


Apparently, it does still happen because I will be picking up the money in 90 minutes from right now.  No, I am not going to give any PII (personally identifiable information) to this donor.  I am not even going to see the donor, the donor is giving it to a 3rd party who will give it to me.  It will be in the form of a regular check.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 15, 2012, 08:44:14 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

Does this happen outside of movies?

No, it happens all the time according to my email inbox.  The next step involves Bushie giving his personal information and bank account number to the anonymous donor so he can transfer the money.


Apparently, it does still happen because I will be picking up the money in 90 minutes from right now.  No, I am not going to give any PII (personally identifiable information) to this donor.  I am not even going to see the donor, the donor is giving it to a 3rd party who will give it to me.  It will be in the form of a regular check.

Sounds like one of those Nigerian scams I get all the time.   


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 15, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

Does this happen outside of movies?

No, it happens all the time according to my email inbox.  The next step involves Bushie giving his personal information and bank account number to the anonymous donor so he can transfer the money.


Apparently, it does still happen because I will be picking up the money in 90 minutes from right now.  No, I am not going to give any PII (personally identifiable information) to this donor.  I am not even going to see the donor, the donor is giving it to a 3rd party who will give it to me.  It will be in the form of a regular check.

Sounds like one of those Nigerian scams I get all the time.   

Nope, not anywhere close.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 15, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
Glad to hear you have a sponsor for your trip.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 15, 2012, 10:45:00 AM
Why do people abbreviate things when they are just going to tell us what it means anyways?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 15, 2012, 10:48:55 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

How did this prospective "donor" become aware of your "need?"  Did you advertise or something? I am not sure what the text, "[t]hat is the big fleece I put out at the end of march 2012" means. Is this some reference to the golden fleece?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 15, 2012, 10:50:35 AM
How did this prospective "donor" become aware of your "need?"  Did you advertise or something? I am not sure what the text, "[t]hat is the big fleece I put out at the end of march 2012" means. Is this some reference to the golden fleece?

No no no, Torie.......fleecing the donors is the game......got it now? 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 15, 2012, 10:59:55 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

How did this prospective "donor" become aware of your "need?"  Did you advertise or something? I am not sure what the text, "[t]hat is the big fleece I put out at the end of march 2012" means. Is this some reference to the golden fleece?

the donor probably just heard about it through the grapevine, considered it a good cause, and decided to pony up the funds out of his good heart


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 15, 2012, 11:01:27 AM
How did this prospective "donor" become aware of your "need?"  Did you advertise or something? I am not sure what the text, "[t]hat is the big fleece I put out at the end of march 2012" means. Is this some reference to the golden fleece?

No no no, Torie.......fleecing the donors is the game......got it now? 

Bushie would use a verb that connotes an unethical separation of someone from their money?  I have not noticed that confession is a major part of Bushie's religious portfolio for starters.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 15, 2012, 11:18:12 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

How did this prospective "donor" become aware of your "need?"  Did you advertise or something? I am not sure what the text, "[t]hat is the big fleece I put out at the end of march 2012" means. Is this some reference to the golden fleece?

the donor probably just heard about it through the grapevine, considered it a good cause, and decided to pony up the funds out of his good heart

BINGO.  I just got the check an hour ago and have it deposited in my account.  As soon as the funds become fully available, I am going to send it in to Maisha and have the trip paid for.

My guess, it was probably someone from the church we are going with (the same church we went with this past March).


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 15, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
I hear the cops are on the way to Bushie's house now :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 15, 2012, 01:18:58 PM
I hear the cops are on the way to Bushie's house now :)

I highly doubt that...this donor story is one story that is completely believable from my experiences.  And if the check were bad, Bushie wouldn't be the one in trouble.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 15, 2012, 04:25:52 PM
hmmmm...if Bushie's calling keeps landing him cash, something everyone wants, maybe the Forum will start believing him...

HOFSTEDDER: I'm still having these dreams, Doctor, and I
still can't stop myself from believing them.

DOCTOR: I've told, Mr. Hofstedder, to believe in one's
dreams is a manifestation of insanity.  And the sooner you
accept this, the sooner you will get well.

HOFSTEDDER: But I dreamed the Archangel appeared and
whispered into my ear and told me where to find a Golden
Wonka Ticket.

DOCTOR: And what exactly did he say?

HOFSTEDDER: Well what difference does that make?  This was a
dream, a fantasy.  I mean, you said just now--

DOCTOR: Shut up, Hofstedder, and tell me where the ticket
is!



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 15, 2012, 07:45:58 PM
Bushie can I have the lottery numbers for tomorrow ::)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 15, 2012, 08:07:33 PM
Bushie can I have the lottery numbers for tomorrow ::)

I don't play the lottery, so you'll have to find someone else.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 16, 2012, 03:56:39 AM
It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

How did this prospective "donor" become aware of your "need?"  Did you advertise or something? I am not sure what the text, "[t]hat is the big fleece I put out at the end of march 2012" means. Is this some reference to the golden fleece?

From reading the theological debate between jmfcst and Bushie several pages back, my understanding is that "fleece" has some kind of theological connotation related to asking for a sign from God.  If I'm reading that exchange correctly, then the Church of BushOK suggests that one ask God for specific signs to help one figure out what God's directions are, whereas the Church of jmfcst says that that's nonsense, and God's directions are already spelled out in the Bible.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Smid on May 16, 2012, 04:02:01 AM
Fleece refers to Gideon who didn't believe an angel and hung out a fleece to test God's will to see if the angel was telling him an actual message from God, or whether the angel was bs'ing him. If you're interested enough for details, you can probably find more info through google, without too much difficulty.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 16, 2012, 06:22:43 AM
Fleece refers to Gideon who didn't believe an angel and hung out a fleece to test God's will to see if the angel was telling him an actual message from God, or whether the angel was bs'ing him. If you're interested enough for details, you can probably find more info through google, without too much difficulty.

That's where it comes from.  I was encouraged to put out a fleece by one of the men who went with us on the trip.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 16, 2012, 07:33:05 AM
Fleece refers to Gideon who didn't believe an angel and hung out a fleece to test God's will to see if the angel was telling him an actual message from God, or whether the angel was bs'ing him. If you're interested enough for details, you can probably find more info through google, without too much difficulty.

That's where it comes from.  I was encouraged to put out a fleece by one of the men who went with us on the trip.

And it worked, someone got fleeced!!!!!!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Simfan34 on May 16, 2012, 03:23:29 PM
Is someone messing with Bushie?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 16, 2012, 08:07:06 PM
It is official!  At 19:59 CDT Wednesday, 16 May 2012, my trip to the Republic of Kenya in March 2013 has been PAID IN FULL!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on May 16, 2012, 09:05:11 PM
Why don't you just donate the cash to charity? Surely that would do more good than flying yourself out there. And you'd get a tax deduction.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 16, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
It is official!  At 19:59 CDT Wednesday, 16 May 2012, my trip to the Republic of Kenya in March 2013 has been PAID IN FULL!!

glad to hear.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 17, 2012, 06:24:41 AM
Why don't you just donate the cash to charity? Surely that would do more good than flying yourself out there. And you'd get a tax deduction.

Seriously? Why do you have to be such a downer, eh?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 17, 2012, 06:30:30 AM
Why don't you just donate the cash to charity? Surely that would do more good than flying yourself out there. And you'd get a tax deduction.

Seriously? Why do you have to be such a downer, eh?

It's true though.. I'm sure the money would go much further just being donated.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 17, 2012, 07:01:34 AM
Why don't you just donate the cash to charity? Surely that would do more good than flying yourself out there. And you'd get a tax deduction.

Seriously? Why do you have to be such a downer, eh?

It's true though.. I'm sure the money would go much further just being donated.

Yes, but the point of these "mission trips" aren't really about helping people efficiently.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 17, 2012, 07:04:35 AM

I assume the money was donated by a wealthy Update fan, who wants to see this particular plotline progress.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 17, 2012, 08:32:40 AM

I assume the money was donated by a wealthy Update fan, who wants to see this particular plotline progress.


His granny and parents read the update?  Who knew?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 17, 2012, 09:49:35 AM

I assume the money was donated by a wealthy Update fan, who wants to see this particular plotline progress.


His granny and parents read the update?  Who knew?

No, Sherlock, look at the evidence…

We have a) a donor and b) a mutual friend…

It is very possible, even close to likely, that within the next 24-96 hours, my return trip to Kenya in March 2013 will be completely PAID IN FULL!!!  That is the big fleece I put out at the very end of March 2012 when I first got home from Kenya, that my trip would be completely paid for by the first meeting this fall.  Pfffff, my God can do better than that!! I got a call last week that an anonymous donor who will not give me their name or contact information, is going to give me through a mutual friend the money for me to go again.  I am going to pick up the money at 10:00 am on Tuesday and have it deposited in my account shortly after that!

And we have c) a 3rd party, and, again, a) the donor…

I am not going to give any PII (personally identifiable information) to this donor.  I am not even going to see the donor, the donor is giving it to a 3rd party who will give it to me.  It will be in the form of a regular check.

And lastly we have d) a fleece-encouraging member of the missionary trip

That's where it comes from.  I was encouraged to put out a fleece by one of the men who went with us on the trip.

Now, unless I am wrong, the donor, the mutual friend, the 3rd party, and the fleece-prompter…represent only 2 connected individuals (if not one and the same person), and the donor had knowledge of Bushie’s fleece.

Understand, in my church, it would be extremely uncommon to know of another person’s fleece, for in 19 years of going there, I have never heard of anyone having a fleece.  If someone has a fleece, it is kept private.  But in Bushie’s circle, fleeces are not only common, they are encouraged and broadcast.  So, it is no surprise the donor would have knowledge of the Bushie’s fleece.



Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 17, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
Granny can't donate anonymously?  Wait, maybe  Granny doesn't know she has african great-grandchildren.....oh my. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 17, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
Granny can't donate anonymously?  Wait, maybe  Granny doesn't know she has african great-grandchildren.....oh my.  

there are way too many people pulling Bushie's strings for Granny to be the prime suspect.  From what it appears, Bushie is surrounded by a hoard who are habitually addicted to going off half-cocked in attempting to manifest God in every change of the wind.

The only person in the story so far who seems to have any sense is the lady running the missionary.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 17, 2012, 10:20:12 AM
Granny can't donate anonymously?  Wait, maybe  Granny doesn't know she has african great-grandchildren.....oh my.  

there are way too many people pulling Bushie's strings for Granny to be the prime suspect.  From what it appears, Bushie is surrounded by a hoard who are habitually addicted to going off half-cocked in attempting to manifest God in every change of the wind.

The only person in the story so far who seems to have any sense is the lady running the missionary.

QFT


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 17, 2012, 10:22:51 AM
I feel like I am reading about the culture of some space alien in a sci fi novel. It is that far out there from anything I know, understand, or have experienced. This fleece thing in particular is really trippy. I think maybe the novel was written with a movie in mind. I guess in the end it is just an old fashioned asking for money.  But this is a much more cinematic way of doing it isn't it?  But hey, if it works, go for it baby!  Congratulations Bushie. You scored! :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 18, 2012, 09:33:55 AM
Now that my trip is paid off all except for the spending and visa money, I can focus this fall on fundraising for other needs for Maisha, or start trying to save up for my 2014 trip, or even better start saving up for the possibility of staying in Kenya for 4-5 weeks in early 2014.

I am meeting with the Maisha Director again this coming Monday, 21 May at 12:00 before she goes to Kenya for the rest of the summer.  She won't be back in Oklahoma until August, but I'll be able to email her back and forth while she's down there so I can have her check out a few things as they come up, like if Maisha would approve of a particular rent house or something. (I don't have a rent house picked out), but if I do find a house, I can have her check it out.  She knows more about what areas to avoid in Kisumu than I do.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 18, 2012, 09:56:28 AM
Save money for your kids.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 18, 2012, 10:38:06 AM

Oh, I am, trust me. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 21, 2012, 06:44:39 PM
There are some updates I must make.  Something terrible has happened at Dell.  Oklahoma is an "at-will" employment state, meaning employers can terminate the employment of anybody at any time with or without notice.  I have no tenure there, having only been permanent for 10 weeks.  I received a notice this past week that my position was going to be cut on Monday, 21 May 2012.  I had to do some immediate scrambling and trying to find a job and thankfully, I went to the Xerox plant in Yukon, Oklahoma (western suburb of OKC).  I now have a job working with Xerox doing technical support for Apple.  The job starts on Monday, 18 June 2012 at either 06:00-14:30 or 15:00-23:30.  It will be a significant pay cut, but it will be a permanent position (no temp service).  Apple only has 3 call centers in the nation, Portland, Oregon; Raleigh, North Carolina; and one other city.  They are expanding into Oklahoma City on 18 June, so I am the very first class for Apple in Oklahoma City.  They will be promoting from within, which means my class will have the very first opportunities to promote into supervisory or team lead roles.  I may not have to be on the phones for very long and I may work up to the pay I was at with Dell within a pretty short period of time.  We'll see.  So, the job search began and the job search ended with one interview.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on May 21, 2012, 07:00:14 PM
There are some updates I must make.  Something terrible has happened at Dell.  Oklahoma is an "at-will" employment state, meaning employers can terminate the employment of anybody at any time with or without notice.  I have no tenure there, having only been permanent for 10 weeks.  I received a notice this past week that my position was going to be cut on Monday, 21 May 2012.  I had to do some immediate scrambling and trying to find a job and thankfully, I went to the Xerox plant in Yukon, Oklahoma (western suburb of OKC).  I now have a job working with Xerox doing technical support for Apple.  The job starts on Monday, 18 June 2012 at either 06:00-14:30 or 15:00-23:30.  It will be a significant pay cut, but it will be a permanent position (no temp service).  Apple only has 3 call centers in the nation, Portland, Oregon; Raleigh, North Carolina; and one other city.  They are expanding into Oklahoma City on 18 June, so I am the very first class for Apple in Oklahoma City.  They will be promoting from within, which means my class will have the very first opportunities to promote into supervisory or team lead roles.  I may not have to be on the phones for very long and I may work up to the pay I was at with Dell within a pretty short period of time.  We'll see.  So, the job search began and the job search ended with one interview.
Didn't someone predict this?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 21, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
There are some updates I must make.  Something terrible has happened at Dell.  Oklahoma is an "at-will" employment state, meaning employers can terminate the employment of anybody at any time with or without notice.  I have no tenure there, having only been permanent for 10 weeks.  I received a notice this past week that my position was going to be cut on Monday, 21 May 2012.  I had to do some immediate scrambling and trying to find a job and thankfully, I went to the Xerox plant in Yukon, Oklahoma (western suburb of OKC).  I now have a job working with Xerox doing technical support for Apple.  The job starts on Monday, 18 June 2012 at either 06:00-14:30 or 15:00-23:30.  It will be a significant pay cut, but it will be a permanent position (no temp service).  Apple only has 3 call centers in the nation, Portland, Oregon; Raleigh, North Carolina; and one other city.  They are expanding into Oklahoma City on 18 June, so I am the very first class for Apple in Oklahoma City.  They will be promoting from within, which means my class will have the very first opportunities to promote into supervisory or team lead roles.  I may not have to be on the phones for very long and I may work up to the pay I was at with Dell within a pretty short period of time.  We'll see.  So, the job search began and the job search ended with one interview.
Didn't someone predict this?

Yeah.. If I remember correctly, that would be everyone on this forum.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 21, 2012, 09:14:17 PM
Well, good thing Bushie is supporting politicians like Mitt Romney who will protect employers' right to fire people for no reason and with no notice. America!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 21, 2012, 09:22:53 PM
Well, good thing Bushie is supporting politicians like Mitt Romney who will protect employers' right to fire people for no reason and with no notice. America!

Somewhat ironic considering his employment history...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 21, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
In other news, Mr. Roper I think of the Gallop Poll was interviewed on NPR Marketplace (he's interviewed every week), and he said per his polls the state where residents had the most favorable view of their employment picture was well, you guessed it, Oklahoma! Imagine if Bushie lived in well, Riverside, CA, where there are no jobs to be found, or OC, where a friend of mine is living with me for awhile, because he can't find a job to save his life. And I get to "enjoy" his rug rats running around my house and in my pool every other weekend and on Tuesdays, to boot. :P

Bushie, did your parents spoil you rotten? I have to ask, because if I were your parent, I would have kicked your ass long ago, and hard.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 21, 2012, 10:39:16 PM
In other news, Mr. Roper I think of the Gallop Poll was interviewed on NPR Marketplace (he's interviewed every week), and he said per his polls the state where residents had the most favorable view of their employment picture was well, you guessed it, Oklahoma! Imagine if Bushie lived in well, Riverside, CA, where there are no jobs to be found, or OC, where a friend of mine is living with me for awhile, because he can't find a job to save his life. And I get to "enjoy" his rug rats running around my house and in my pool every other weekend and on Tuesdays, to boot. :P

Bushie, did your parents spoil you rotten? I have to ask, because if I were your parent, I would have kicked your ass long ago, and hard.

...and repeatedly.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on May 21, 2012, 10:57:48 PM
There are some updates I must make.  Something terrible has happened at Dell.  Oklahoma is an "at-will" employment state, meaning employers can terminate the employment of anybody at any time with or without notice.  I have no tenure there, having only been permanent for 10 weeks.  I received a notice this past week that my position was going to be cut on Monday, 21 May 2012.  I had to do some immediate scrambling and trying to find a job and thankfully, I went to the Xerox plant in Yukon, Oklahoma (western suburb of OKC).  I now have a job working with Xerox doing technical support for Apple.  The job starts on Monday, 18 June 2012 at either 06:00-14:30 or 15:00-23:30.  It will be a significant pay cut, but it will be a permanent position (no temp service).  Apple only has 3 call centers in the nation, Portland, Oregon; Raleigh, North Carolina; and one other city.  They are expanding into Oklahoma City on 18 June, so I am the very first class for Apple in Oklahoma City.  They will be promoting from within, which means my class will have the very first opportunities to promote into supervisory or team lead roles.  I may not have to be on the phones for very long and I may work up to the pay I was at with Dell within a pretty short period of time.  We'll see.  So, the job search began and the job search ended with one interview.
Didn't someone predict this?

Yeah.. If I remember correctly, that would be everyone on this forum.
I was playing the Captain Obvious part.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 21, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
First thing, this job-changing event is NOT my fault, so Torie and Polnut, shut it!

Second thing, this is not going to derail my Kenya plans.  It is not going to delay it and it is not going to speed it up.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 21, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
First thing, this job-changing event is NOT my fault, so Torie and Polnut, shut it!

Second thing, this is not going to derail my Kenya plans.  It is not going to delay it and it is not going to speed it up.

OK, but in closing, I notice you did not respond to the question.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 21, 2012, 11:25:58 PM
First thing, this job-changing event is NOT my fault, so Torie and Polnut, shut it!

Second thing, this is not going to derail my Kenya plans.  It is not going to delay it and it is not going to speed it up.

OK, but in closing, I notice you did not respond to the question.

They did spoil me, yes, but they did not spoil me to the point that I have no sense of reality.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 21, 2012, 11:57:34 PM
What the....

Apple has a hell of a lot more than three call centers.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on May 22, 2012, 01:11:44 AM
Sorry to hear that Jeff. Good Luck with the new job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 22, 2012, 01:23:47 AM
Sorry to hear about this, and glad you were successful in finding a replacement.

That said, I think this goes to show you, again that you need to stop planning years ahead. You see what can become of "careers", especially in places that can fire you at will.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 22, 2012, 06:54:31 AM
There are some updates I must make.  Something terrible has happened at Dell.  Oklahoma is an "at-will" employment state, meaning employers can terminate the employment of anybody at any time with or without notice.  I have no tenure there, having only been permanent for 10 weeks.  I received a notice this past week that my position was going to be cut on Monday, 21 May 2012.  I had to do some immediate scrambling and trying to find a job and thankfully, I went to the Xerox plant in Yukon, Oklahoma (western suburb of OKC).  I now have a job working with Xerox doing technical support for Apple.  The job starts on Monday, 18 June 2012 at either 06:00-14:30 or 15:00-23:30.  It will be a significant pay cut, but it will be a permanent position (no temp service).  Apple only has 3 call centers in the nation, Portland, Oregon; Raleigh, North Carolina; and one other city.  They are expanding into Oklahoma City on 18 June, so I am the very first class for Apple in Oklahoma City.  They will be promoting from within, which means my class will have the very first opportunities to promote into supervisory or team lead roles.  I may not have to be on the phones for very long and I may work up to the pay I was at with Dell within a pretty short period of time.  We'll see.  So, the job search began and the job search ended with one interview.
Didn't someone predict this?

Yeah.. If I remember correctly, that would be everyone on this forum.
I was playing the Captain Obvious part.

As was I, my friend. I figured it would be like icing on the cake.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 22, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Have you announced this on FB yet?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 22, 2012, 08:48:46 AM
Yes, I have Grumps.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 22, 2012, 10:21:06 AM
Are George and I ever going to be welcomed back onto said facebook?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 22, 2012, 10:33:37 AM
Are George and I ever going to be welcomed back onto said facebook?

and waltermitty


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 22, 2012, 11:23:09 AM
Are George and I ever going to be welcomed back onto said facebook?

and waltermitty

I am mulling it over.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 22, 2012, 11:42:20 AM
What I find most amusing is that after being fired from three call centers Bushie is now expecting a fourth one to not only work out for him but that he might get PROMOTED in it...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 22, 2012, 11:43:26 AM
Are George and I ever going to be welcomed back onto said facebook?

and waltermitty

Yes, how could I forget about our friend waltermitty. Three of the smartes't and brightest minds known to walk the Earth.. package deal here. No combo breakers allowed.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 22, 2012, 06:17:25 PM
There is so much more BushKE should be focusing on as opposed to moving to Kenya. So much more..


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 22, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
What I find most amusing is that after being fired from three call centers Bushie is now expecting a fourth one to not only work out for him but that he might get PROMOTED in it...

I don't think all call centers are the same.  I had to have something, and this is the first thing that came along.  Since it doesn't start until 18 June, I have time to look at other, higher paying positions without worry.  I don't have to worry, because I have this job with Xerox to fall back on.  Plus, neither Xerox or Apple are going anywhere for a long time.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 22, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
There is so much more BushKE should be focusing on as opposed to moving to Kenya. So much more..

Relax, I'm not planning to move for another 2 3/4 years.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on May 22, 2012, 06:30:09 PM
how often do you regret not staying on at the gas company?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 22, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
how often do you regret not staying on at the gas company?

Never


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 23, 2012, 01:25:55 AM

You don't regret leaving the one secure and stable job you had?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 23, 2012, 10:03:53 AM
What I find most amusing is that after being fired from three call centers Bushie is now expecting a fourth one to not only work out for him but that he might get PROMOTED in it...

in addition to quiting the gas company job, he's couldn't remained employed at three different call centers?

ok, this is probably grounds for banning Bushie from the Forum for his own good.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 23, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
It's strange they promoted BushKE and then immediately fired him for no reason. Are you sure nothing happened? That just seems like they jerked you around.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: King on May 23, 2012, 10:25:38 AM
Wait, it's a Xerox-run Apple call center?

At least it's not going anywhere as opposed to fly by night operations like Dell.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 10:33:50 AM
This is funny, you guys are acting like its MY fault I got let go from Dell.  What's more, you are not recognizing that having another job to replace it is a good thing.  I'm laughing at this forum right now for your unwillingness to see the other side of said facts.

I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

I will be going back to work in just 3 1/2 weeks, and while it is a pay cut, with the dynamics and the circumstances of this new class, it may not be too long before I'm back in similary pay territory than I was at with Dell.

As far as not regretting leaving ONG.  Yes, I do miss the security of the job, but I do not regret it because there was no advancement unless someone died.  I had to make a change, even if I fell flat on my face.  That face plant did hurt, and I still have scars from it, but I don't regret it.  Another reason I don't regret it, is I don't live in the past.  I let bygones be bygones.  I am focused on today and planning for tomorrow.  I learn from the past, but I don't live in the past.

Now, I will admit I do need to take better care of this job, and I will, but ONG was the last company I left voluntarily.  The other three were discrimination (Sprint fired me because I stuttered), following my manager's authority (Convergys fired me for doing what my manager told me to do), and at-will/downsizing (Dell let me go using the "at-will" card).  I just have been unfortunate in the last 2 years of my career.  I'm not regretting anything.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 23, 2012, 10:49:42 AM
Bushie, having worked at a call center for four years and seen the things people have managed to do and get away with without being fired I can assure you you were NOT fired for following your manager's instructions. Unemployment insurance is expensive, and companies try to make sure anyone employee being let go is not going to win a claim for unemployment against the company (which if everything you say about Convergys is true you probably could've unless Oklahoma's laws are even more messed up than I thought.) Some middle management drone might've used that as a dumb excuse, but it was obvious something else was going on, and you never implied any condition improved since Sprint.

And yes, it was your fault you were fired from Dell. Just because Dell took advantage of Oklahoma's ridiculously anti-worker laws doesn't mean they didn't have a reason to do so.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 11:07:23 AM

And yes, it was your fault you were fired from Dell. Just because Dell took advantage of Oklahoma's ridiculously anti-worker laws doesn't mean they didn't have a reason to do so.

Tell me EXACTLY how it was my fault.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 23, 2012, 11:09:58 AM
They had a reason to let you go. I'm not in Dell's HR department so I don't know what it is, but it's not like management were just playing a "Oh let's just throw a dart at a board and fire the random employee whose name it lands on just for kicks" sort of thing.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 11:11:53 AM
They had a reason to let you go. I'm not in Dell's HR department so I don't know what it is, but it's not like management were just playing a "Oh let's just throw a dart at a board and fire the random employee whose name it lands on just for kicks" sort of thing.

I wasn't alone in the dismissal.  I looked around yesterday when I turned in my badge, and there were several empty desks that were filled by employees just late last week.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 23, 2012, 11:19:06 AM
They had a reason to let you go. I'm not in Dell's HR department so I don't know what it is, but it's not like management were just playing a "Oh let's just throw a dart at a board and fire the random employee whose name it lands on just for kicks" sort of thing.

I wasn't alone in the dismissal.  I looked around yesterday when I turned in my badge, and there were several empty desks that were filled by employees just late last week.

If you honestly assessed yourself, just how good do you think you are in fielding calls from the noisome and sometimes irascible public?  I think I recall that at one point, that you said you found it a struggle, due to anxiety or something?  One of the most important things to learn in life in my experience, is being honest at least to yourself. I know, that is easier said then done. Maybe your calling is as a bookkeeper or something. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 11:24:33 AM
They had a reason to let you go. I'm not in Dell's HR department so I don't know what it is, but it's not like management were just playing a "Oh let's just throw a dart at a board and fire the random employee whose name it lands on just for kicks" sort of thing.

I wasn't alone in the dismissal.  I looked around yesterday when I turned in my badge, and there were several empty desks that were filled by employees just late last week.

If you honestly assessed yourself, just how good do you think you are in fielding calls from the noisome and sometimes irascible public?  I think I recall that at one point, that you said you found it a struggle, due to anxiety or something?  One of the most important things to learn in life in my experience, is being honest at least to yourself. I know, that is easier said then done. Maybe your calling is as a bookkeeper or something. 

I was decent at it.  I wasn't the greatest at it, but I definitely wasn't the worst, either.  I got better in the 11 1/2 months I was with Dell and I think going into Apple, I am definitely more prepared and better able to handle irate and abusive customers than i was with Convergys.  I am not an old pro at it, yet, but I am getting there!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 23, 2012, 11:29:21 AM
Why is it you always go for call center jobs, btw? Considering your disability, it seems less than ideal.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 23, 2012, 11:43:38 AM
Yeah! What those other people said!

 Also, there isn't a "guest" account. It's called not logging in. Currently, there are over 200 guests on the forum. But I'm glad you and your buddy get some good ol' LOLs at this thread. I know that a lot of us do too.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 23, 2012, 11:52:29 AM
They very well could've fired you for no reason other than downsizing, but it makes no sense given they just made you a permanent employee like 3 weeks ago. Companies don't just downsize randomly. It doesn't make sense to add you on full time if their balance sheet suggested they would need to downsize in the coming weeks. That's the part that doesn't make sense.

And it could be your fault. SC is a no fault state too and my mother has had to fire people. She uses the no fault excuse but there are always other reasons why that person was fired. They're not going to want to pay unemployment out to you for no reason at all. Something happened. We can't tell ou what because none of us were there, but unless they were in serious financial trouble where layoffs are the only way to stop the bleeding, you were fired for something you did.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 23, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Now, I will admit I do need to take better care of this job, and I will,

Better care of this job than what, Dell?  How did you not take care of the Dell one?

Or am I reading too much into your clipped sentence?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Why is it you always go for call center jobs, btw? Considering your disability, it seems less than ideal.

Out of desperation, mainly.  I have not had success in getting non-call center jobs  at a relatively quick pace.  I'm not talking the same day like Xerox, that was just a luck of the draw.  I'm talking about not having to spend more than 3 weeks on pins and needles waiting for a decision.  Nobody wants to hire someone who stutters, plain and simple with less than movie star looks.  I really believe there is some disguised discrimination going on with these companies.  So, I don't even bother.  Plus, I was desperate because I have no other means of financial support.  My mother has cut off major support at my 30th birthday and her retirement.  This was so sudden that I didn't have time to really plan out a game plan.  Now that I have a job and it doesn't start for 3 1/2 weeks, I have time to look for a better, non call center job.  Believe me, I would happily take a non-call center job, but I was desperate mainly due to the suddenness of this entire experience.  I got the notice on Thursday, and on Monday, I was let go.  I don't believe that is fair, and they should have given me a little bit of notice, but i don't have any retaliation ammunition because the shotty laws of Oklahoma say employers can get rid of people without cause and without notice.  So, I went from thinking I had a stable job on Thursday morning, to turning in my badge just 5 calendar days later on Tuesday afternoon.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 12:39:28 PM
Now, I will admit I do need to take better care of this job, and I will,

Better care of this job than what, Dell?  How did you not take care of the Dell one?

Or am I reading too much into your clipped sentence?

I got real sick about 10 days after I got back from Kenya and was out quite a few days.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 23, 2012, 12:53:30 PM
I got real sick about 10 days after I got back from Kenya and was out quite a few days.

ok, now I am angry, for I specific remember warning you NOT take a leave of absence soon after starting a new job.  if you want to secure employment, be the best employee.  arrive early and leave late.  be there day in and day out.  learn as much about the company's business as possible.  think outside the box in order to bring value to your company - don't just be content to do only what has been assigned to you.

if you do those things successfully, you will be one of the last employees to be axed during downturns.  if you're not willing to do those things, don't whine about being one of the first to be let go.

period.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 23, 2012, 12:58:02 PM
I got real sick about 10 days after I got back from Kenya and was out quite a few days.

ok, now I am angry, for I specific remember warning you NOT take a leave of absence soon after starting a new job.  if you want to secure employment, be the best employee.  arrive early and leave late.  be there day in and day out.  learn as much about the company's business as possible.  think outside the box in order to bring value to your company - don't just be content to do only what has been assigned to you.

if you do those things successfully, you will be one of the last employees to be axed during downturns.  if you're not willing to do those things, don't whine about being one of the first to be let go.

period.

Most of us did......and yeah, as a business person for 31 years I agree with the rest of jmf's post. 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 23, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
The Kenya trip may have been part of it, sure. They might think you care more about that than your job and didn't have a problem making you one of the first to go.

You need to focus on the here and now or just move to Kenya immediately. Taking weeks off at a time each year to go to Kenya will probably not sit well with your employers and you'll never be able to hold a steady job.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 23, 2012, 04:33:57 PM
What Bushie needs to realize is that, despite the state of Oklahoman culture to the contrary, this is not the 1950s anymore, and the vast majority of American workers are no longer allowed to have both vacations/sick leave/dreams for a better life and steady employment. He'll need to pick one or the other.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
The Kenya trip may have been part of it, sure. They might think you care more about that than your job and didn't have a problem making you one of the first to go.

You need to focus on the here and now or just move to Kenya immediately. Taking weeks off at a time each year to go to Kenya will probably not sit well with your employers and you'll never be able to hold a steady job.

I'm still on track to move to Africa in just under 3 years.  I don't think it was the vacation itself that cost me the job, but I think getting sick afterwards got me in the long run.  The first commandment of the workplace "Thou shall never get sick."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 23, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
What Bushie needs to realize is that, despite the state of Oklahoman culture to the contrary, this is not the 1950s anymore, and the vast majority of American workers are no longer allowed to have both vacations/sick leave/dreams for a better life and steady employment. He'll need to pick one or the other.

I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.  I'll be smart and take off VERY sparingly.  Once I start on June 18, I will not be able to take off until at least early October.  I am going to try to not take anytime off until Election Day and then some around Christmas to use up the leave before the year is over.  It is also looked down on if you throw any of your leave in the trash on December 31.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 23, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
Call centers basically never downsize unless they are losing a contract or whatever. The attrition rate is so high it's not worth it and the demand is fluid, if they lay a bunch of people off and then need to hire a bunch more three months later it's a bunch of waste money in recruitment and training. It's cheaper just to overstaff over those three months.

Bushie and the rest of those folks were clearly doing something really wrong. If he was truly let go "for no reason at all" then has no excuse for not filing at the unemployment office for now until June 18.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: memphis on May 23, 2012, 10:29:13 PM
I've had the same job for several years now and I always take a couple of weeks off in the summer for vacation. I give plenty of notice and it has never been an issue. Plenty of coworkers do the same.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 24, 2012, 04:26:18 AM
I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.

No offense, but these two sentences could easily serve as your life motto.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 24, 2012, 06:35:40 AM
I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.

No offense, but these two sentences could easily serve as your life motto.


Uh oh, looks like I have a new signature that I'll never see!!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 24, 2012, 06:44:38 AM
I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.

No offense, but these two sentences could easily serve as your life motto.


So he knows what his problem is and is in no way interested in changing for the better? Sad.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 24, 2012, 07:48:19 AM
This is funny, you guys are acting like its MY fault I got let go from Dell.  

Your postings since this one leave no other conclusion.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 10:06:19 AM
I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.

No offense, but these two sentences could easily serve as your life motto.


Contrary to popular forum opinion.  My life is not a mess right now.  I'm very stable in life right now and am just going through a job change.  It doesn't matter that I've gone through it several times before.  I know several people that have gone through job changes multiple times.  My youth minister, who now has found a stable company, has had 20+ different jobs.  I've had 5 different jobs in the past 4 years (I'm not counting the Kirbies or Ameriscam)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 24, 2012, 11:03:52 AM
I don't think it was the vacation itself that cost me the job, but I think getting sick afterwards got me in the long run.  The first commandment of the workplace "Thou shall never get sick."

You need to start taking personal responsibility, for it is given that your trip would most likely lead to an illness – there were several posters on here who even predicted it.  But, despite those known risks, you decided to go to Africa anyway, no matter the risks to your obligations to your employer.

It’s not like you came down with the flu after getting a flu vaccine.  Your company correctly concluded you did not do your due diligence to stay healthy in order to make a good first impression and meet your obligations to your employer.

You do NOT make pleasing your employer a priority in your life.  I would have fired you also.  Since you have a disability (stuttering) to being with, you need to make every effort to be doing it better and cleaner than the other guy.  Instead, you've lost your job in call centers three times. Been warned multiple times by posters, including me, with a history of half-chocked ventures with fly-by-night scam artists and two failed marriage engagements!

Reap-what-you-sow rules of engagement exist for your safety and for that of your team. They're not flexible, nor is the world. Obey them or your history will be written with government food stamps. Is that clear?

Dismissed.









Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 24, 2012, 11:12:11 AM
I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.

No offense, but these two sentences could easily serve as your life motto.


Contrary to popular forum opinion.  My life is not a mess right now.  I'm very stable in life right now and am just going through a job change.  It doesn't matter that I've gone through it several times before.  I know several people that have gone through job changes multiple times.  My youth minister, who now has found a stable company, has had 20+ different jobs.  I've had 5 different jobs in the past 4 years (I'm not counting the Kirbies or Ameriscam)

That is not the definition of stability at the age of 30. And it will not get any better as long as you are looking forward to the Kenya move. My advice is if you are dead set on going there for good, go now. No need to delay it 2-3 years. You decided to do that before because you wanted to work that job that you threw away, so now you should have no reason not to go.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
I don't think it was the vacation itself that cost me the job, but I think getting sick afterwards got me in the long run.  The first commandment of the workplace "Thou shall never get sick."

You need to start taking personal responsibility, for it is given that your trip would most likely lead to an illness – there were several posters on here who even predicted it.  But, despite those known risks, you decided to go to Africa anyway, no matter the risks to your obligations to your employer.

It’s not like you came down with the flu after getting a flu vaccine.  Your company correctly concluded you did not do your due diligence to stay healthy in order to make a good first impression and meet your obligations to your employer.

You do NOT make pleasing your employer a priority in your life.  I would have fired you also.  Since you have a disability (stuttering) to being with, you need to make every effort to be doing it better and cleaner than the other guy.  Instead, you've lost your job in call centers three times. Been warned multiple times by posters, including me, with a history of half-chocked ventures with fly-by-night scam artists and two failed marriage engagements!

Reap-what-you-sow rules of engagement exist for your safety and for that of your team. They're not flexible, nor is the world. Obey them or your history will be written with government food stamps. Is that clear?

Dismissed.









So, I should not have followed my dream and gone to Africa?  Just because I have a job, does not mean I have to discard every dream or ambition I have ever had.  If I had not gone to Africa this past March, it is likely I would have NEVER been able to go overseas at all and thus would not have had this ambition to MOVE to Africa.  Is that what employers want, to prohibit their employees from achieving their dreams?  I don't want any sarcastic remarks, either.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
I'm beginning to realize that.  However, stubborn as I am, I'm probably not going to listen to that.

No offense, but these two sentences could easily serve as your life motto.


Contrary to popular forum opinion.  My life is not a mess right now.  I'm very stable in life right now and am just going through a job change.  It doesn't matter that I've gone through it several times before.  I know several people that have gone through job changes multiple times.  My youth minister, who now has found a stable company, has had 20+ different jobs.  I've had 5 different jobs in the past 4 years (I'm not counting the Kirbies or Ameriscam)

That is not the definition of stability at the age of 30. And it will not get any better as long as you are looking forward to the Kenya move. My advice is if you are dead set on going there for good, go now. No need to delay it 2-3 years. You decided to do that before because you wanted to work that job that you threw away, so now you should have no reason not to go.

Stability takes on different shapes and sizes for everybody.  The last thing I want to do is do things because that's what everybody else does.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 24, 2012, 11:17:25 AM
I don't think it was the vacation itself that cost me the job, but I think getting sick afterwards got me in the long run.  The first commandment of the workplace "Thou shall never get sick."

You need to start taking personal responsibility, for it is given that your trip would most likely lead to an illness – there were several posters on here who even predicted it.  But, despite those known risks, you decided to go to Africa anyway, no matter the risks to your obligations to your employer.

It’s not like you came down with the flu after getting a flu vaccine.  Your company correctly concluded you did not do your due diligence to stay healthy in order to make a good first impression and meet your obligations to your employer.

You do NOT make pleasing your employer a priority in your life.  I would have fired you also.  Since you have a disability (stuttering) to being with, you need to make every effort to be doing it better and cleaner than the other guy.  Instead, you've lost your job in call centers three times. Been warned multiple times by posters, including me, with a history of half-chocked ventures with fly-by-night scam artists and two failed marriage engagements!

Reap-what-you-sow rules of engagement exist for your safety and for that of your team. They're not flexible, nor is the world. Obey them or your history will be written with government food stamps. Is that clear?

Dismissed.









So, I should not have followed my dream and gone to Africa?  Just because I have a job, does not mean I have to discard every dream or ambition I have ever had.  If I had not gone to Africa this past March, it is likely I would have NEVER been able to go overseas at all and thus would not have had this ambition to MOVE to Africa.  Is that what employers want, to prohibit their employees from achieving their dreams?  I don't want any sarcastic remarks, either.

Employers don't want employees there who do not want to be there. If you have other dreams, like to go to Africa, then go. Now. Like I said, there is no reason to try and find stable employment in the states if you are going to continue to go there every year and continue to talk about moving there. Don't put off what you plan to do anyway.

The ugly truth is, employees don't care about your dreams outside of what they are in the business of doing. If you have a dream to advance your career in the field you are in, most companies like to see that. If you have a dream that has nothing to do what you're doing at the present time, it's best not to walk around talking about how you'd rather be doing something else. Companies are not your parents. They don't care about your hopes and dreams.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 11:18:46 AM
Anyway, I am not going to think any more of Dell, what could have happened or what should have happened.  I am not going to live in the past.  I am looking forward to the future and the future is with Xerox and eventually Maisha International Orphanage in Kisumu, Kenya.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 24, 2012, 11:22:36 AM
Why was the "mission" trip to Kenya the only way to go abroad? It's impossibly to apply for a passport, buy a flight ticket, etc. outside of that context?

Not that it was a poor idea per se, just wondering what that meant.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 24, 2012, 11:22:45 AM
But you have to learn from your mistakes or you will never succeed at anything! Life is about successes and failures, and every time we fail, we have to learn from those mistakes.

And you're still under the impression you will adopt these kids when the laws clearly say you cannot!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 11:25:08 AM
But you have to learn from your mistakes or you will never succeed at anything! Life is about successes and failures, and every time we fail, we have to learn from those mistakes.

I am learning.  I'm just very hard-headed.

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And you're still under the impression you will adopt these kids when the laws clearly say you cannot!

I'm no longer under that impression, unless I can find a Kenya wife, which is definitely not out of the realm of possibility.  I know what the law says, and I am going to respect the law.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 24, 2012, 11:30:29 AM
I know what its like to be hard headed. I am hard headed myself, but I am not beyond learning from my mistakes and failures. I still think if you are 100% sure you are going to move to Kenya, you should go now. Delaying it will only hurt any progress you can make in the US because you will constantly be looking to Kenya and in turn, constantly lose you job. That will only make it harder to move in 2-3 years.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 24, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
So, I should not have followed my dream and gone to Africa?  Just because I have a job, does not mean I have to discard every dream or ambition I have ever had.

you obligations come before your dreams, even more so since you are under commandment from God to work for your employer as if you were working for Chirst himself.  

If you don't fulfill your obligations, you will never see your dreams fulfilled.  But, most of all, God is not going to bless and honor you, much less your dreams, if you don't honor your obligations.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 24, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
Bushie, do your church friends share your opinion concerning who is responsible for your employment history?  And if so, can we still conclude their opinions are "bathed in prayer"?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 12:06:37 PM
Bushie, do your church friends share your opinion concerning who is responsible for your employment history?  And if so, can we still conclude their opinions are "bathed in prayer"?

They definitely know that it's my responsibility, and so do I.  However, they still feel that dreams are not to be discarded or shoved to the backseat in favor of employment.

BTW, I am still not taking responsibility for being let go at Dell.  Sure, I made some mistakes, but everybody makes mistakes.

I seriously doubt that following my dream to go to Kenya was what doomed me.  I think it was getting sick and obeying doctor's orders after I came back that ultimately cost me.  Even then, I'm not 100% sure that's what cost me.  It likely played a part, but it wasn't the sole reason.  Especially when other people got let go.  It just coincided with Dell's stock plunging pretty low.  My Dad saw this coming long before I even mentioned Kenya.  He's pretty keen on the economic side of things and he saw this coming.  He sees a lot more growth  potential with Apple/Xerox than there was even with Dell and a million times more than ONG.  He is very excited that I am going to work for Xerox (which was his idea, as soon as he heard that i was going to be laid off from Dell, he grabbed the newspaper, Mom gave him an ink pen and he found Xerox and circled it and then immediately drove 13 miles to my house and dropped the paper off on my computer desk.  I called him that evening (Sunday evening) and said I was going to go up there first thing Monday.  I applied online at Xerox at 10:00 am on Monday and was up there by 11:20 am and passed the assessment with flying colors (having little previous knowledge of Apple products), and flew through the first interview and the second interview with the hiring manager, and was sat down at a computer to wait for my new hire documents and then took the drug test).  But, again, my father saw this coming and really was not all that suprised by it.  Was he disappointed? Sure, but he never once has blamed me for it.  He's extremely excited about Xerox.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 24, 2012, 12:15:54 PM
Until you take responsibility for your failures, you'll never learn from them.

You were one of the first to be let go from Dell because of your trip. You didn't give off the aura that you were a dedicated employee given your past behavior and that the reason you were laid off if they were downsizing. Since you were promoted just before being let go, I doubt it was your performance on the job. It was your nonchalant attitude. Taking 3 weeks off to go to Kenya. Staying out sick when you got back. Those things together add up. They saw you more as a liability than an asset to the workplace.

And dreams are not to be discarded, but they are to be put behind stable employment and realistic goals. You can have a dream and keep it in mind, but you need to work hard a what you're doing in order to make that dream a reality. You aren't. Instead, you're simply focusing on kenya, going back there next year, and letting your real life slip away. That's why you need to go to Kenya now if you don't plan to change anytime soon. That, or you will be forced to change now that your parents are no longer supporting you financially whenever you screw up.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 24, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
A massive company's stock taking a short-term beating doesn't cause them to axe a few people from a contracted call center.

And not taking responsibility for your dismissal is the whole problem.

Sorry but those two things are true.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Torie on May 24, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
Bushie's Daddy is apparently a financial seer. Who knew?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 24, 2012, 12:50:54 PM
Bushie's Daddy is apparently a financial seer. Who knew?

And it's safer to work for a call center for Xerox, than it ever would be at ONG. Because if there is one thing we all know, natural gas is going away, and FAST!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 12:55:49 PM
Until you take responsibility for your failures, you'll never learn from them.

You were one of the first to be let go from Dell because of your trip. You didn't give off the aura that you were a dedicated employee given your past behavior and that the reason you were laid off if they were downsizing. Since you were promoted just before being let go, I doubt it was your performance on the job. It was your nonchalant attitude. Taking 3 weeks off to go to Kenya. Staying out sick when you got back. Those things together add up. They saw you more as a liability than an asset to the workplace.

And dreams are not to be discarded, but they are to be put behind stable employment and realistic goals. You can have a dream and keep it in mind, but you need to work hard a what you're doing in order to make that dream a reality. You aren't. Instead, you're simply focusing on kenya, going back there next year, and letting your real life slip away. That's why you need to go to Kenya now if you don't plan to change anytime soon. That, or you will be forced to change now that your parents are no longer supporting you financially whenever you screw up.

I may have made some mistakes.  I'm not disputing that.  However, I don't believe that following my heart to Kenya was a mistake.

Yes, I was focused on moving to Kenya, but the fundamental reason I was not going to move right away remains the same, I don't have the funds to pull off the move.  I have to work here and make money so I can fund the trip in 2-3 years time.  Making less money now with Xerox, means I will just have to work a little harder and take advantage of any overtime that is offered.  Plus, I will have several holidays approaching in which I can make double time-and-a-half, such as July 4, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.  The last 6 months of the year have holidays every other month at least.

If you expect me to express any kind of regret, you can forget about it, because I have no regrets.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 24, 2012, 02:05:56 PM
You can learn from mistakes while not having regrets. Many things I have failed at in the past are things I don't regret doing, but I learned from them all the same.

And you have proved my point. By looking ahead or investing all your time and energy into focusing on Kenya, you are actually hurting your chances of ever moving there and hurting the money those kids you are sponsoring desperately need. If you are taking on those kids to support, you have to realize your decisions are now bigger than yourself. Being careless at a job hurts not only you, but them.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: WalterMitty on May 24, 2012, 03:07:06 PM
Bushie's Daddy is apparently a financial seer. Who knew?

didnt his dad encourage him to quit the gas company to go to the on company or ameriscam..whichever it was..


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 03:32:54 PM
You can learn from mistakes while not having regrets. Many things I have failed at in the past are things I don't regret doing, but I learned from them all the same.

And you have proved my point. By looking ahead or investing all your time and energy into focusing on Kenya, you are actually hurting your chances of ever moving there and hurting the money those kids you are sponsoring desperately need. If you are taking on those kids to support, you have to realize your decisions are now bigger than yourself. Being careless at a job hurts not only you, but them.

I agree with you on this post.  And, I may have been a little careless with Dell.  I will not deny that.  The good news is, though, I have another chance with Xerox.  I'm just on an extended, unpaid vacation as my dad calls it.  Thankfully, this vacation has an end date in just 3 1/2 weeks.  The bad news, I lost my job at Dell.  The good news, I have another job to take its place.  It doesn't pay as much, but it pays a heck of a lot more than $0.00 and it is stable employment.  I'm going to hang on to Xerox with all I've got, so i don't hurt my children.  My children will not go hungry because of my job situation.  I have a job, and I'm proud of it.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 24, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
Can't you get unemployment benefits for the next 3 1/2 weeks?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 03:40:27 PM
Can't you get unemployment benefits for the next 3 1/2 weeks?

Maybe, but doesn't it take forever for it to get started?  I know the tried and true answer will be "it'll take forever if you never get started", but seriously even if I did apply let's say on Tuesday (after the holiday), will I be approved and have checks coming in my mail before Friday, June 15, 2012?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 24, 2012, 03:41:41 PM
Can't you get unemployment benefits for the next 3 1/2 weeks?

Maybe, but doesn't it take forever for it to get started?  I know the tried and true answer will be "it'll take forever if you never get started", but seriously even if I did apply let's say on Tuesday (after the holiday), will I be approved and have checks coming in my mail before Friday, June 15, 2012?

Even if not, it would be retroactive, right? So it can only help you.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 03:43:49 PM
Can't you get unemployment benefits for the next 3 1/2 weeks?

Maybe, but doesn't it take forever for it to get started?  I know the tried and true answer will be "it'll take forever if you never get started", but seriously even if I did apply let's say on Tuesday (after the holiday), will I be approved and have checks coming in my mail before Friday, June 15, 2012?

Even if not, it would be retroactive, right? So it can only help you.

One thing I need to get over is pride.  I have never taken a dime from the government dole, and I don't want to start now, especially if my current financial state says I don't need to.

Having said that, I will definitely be going there on Tuesday.  I don't figure it would do much good on a Friday before a 3-day weekend.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 24, 2012, 03:53:03 PM
Pride? You pay taxes. That's what taxes are for - to fund government programs. If you qualify for something, it's only reasonable and certainly nothing to be ashamed of if you accept it. Whether you "need" it or not.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 24, 2012, 03:55:16 PM
Fine, file for it and send it to your kids.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 03:57:45 PM
Fine, file for it and send it to your kids.

I'll definitely be going down there on Tuesday and seeing what they say.  The worst they can say is "no", right? 


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 24, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
Bushie reminds me of a few individuals during my partying days - you go to pick up your home boys to go cruising and smoke a couple of joints.  But when you arrive at your buddy's house, you find his uncle's family is visiting and one of his cousin's jumps into the back seat and you have to bring him along for the night.

But after rolling a couple of numbers and getting stoned, listening to all of his cousin's BS totally kills your buzz.  So you tell you buddy, "Sorry, bro, but I can't take any more of your [Inks]ing cousin!"  And you find the first random street in the hood and kick him out of your car.  

Then you burn another one to help convince your buddy not to worry about all the crap his extended family is going to give him in the coming days.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 24, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 05:15:58 PM
Bushie reminds me of a few individuals during my partying days - you go to pick up your home boys to go cruising and smoke a couple of joints.  But when you arrive at your buddy's house, you find his uncle's family is visiting and one of his cousin's jumps into the back seat and you have to bring him along for the night.

But after rolling a couple of numbers and getting stoned, listening to all of his cousin's BS totally kills your buzz.  So you tell you buddy, "Sorry, bro, but I can't take anymore of your [Inks]ing cousin!"  And you find the first random street in the hood and kick him out of your car. 

Then you burn another one to help convince your buddy not to worry about all the crap his extended family is going to give him in the coming days.

That just went miles over my head.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 24, 2012, 05:25:47 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?

Which part?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on May 24, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?

Which part?


This seems an admission of trolling the forum for the amusement of a banned poster.  If this is the case Atlas should give him his walking papers too.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 08:45:07 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?

Which part?


This seems an admission of trolling the forum for the amusement of a banned poster.  If this is the case Atlas should give him his walking papers too.

No, we just discuss the happenings of the forum and we laugh about it on occasion.  Can we not talk about anything we want without people calling for my head because I am talking to one of the most hated people in the history of this forum?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on May 24, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?

Which part?


This seems an admission of trolling the forum for the amusement of a banned poster.  If this is the case Atlas should give him his walking papers too.

No, we just discuss the happenings of the forum and we laugh about it on occasion.  Can we not talk about anything we want without people calling for my head because I am talking to one of the most hated people in the history of this forum?

What do you laugh about then, how you have ignored every good piece of advice anyone on this forum has ever given you?  That doesn't seem like something you should be laughing about.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 24, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?

Which part?


This seems an admission of trolling the forum for the amusement of a banned poster.  If this is the case Atlas should give him his walking papers too.

Nah, just pretty much the laughing at other people with jamespol is what I want to talk about. Sounds like a ball.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
I will let you in on a little secret.  Jamespol and I have good, hearty laughs when we review the daily update thread.  We talk at least once or twice a week.  Yes, he still reads the forum through this thing called the Guest account and that no one can ban him from.

Can we all talk about this please?

Which part?


This seems an admission of trolling the forum for the amusement of a banned poster.  If this is the case Atlas should give him his walking papers too.

No, we just discuss the happenings of the forum and we laugh about it on occasion.  Can we not talk about anything we want without people calling for my head because I am talking to one of the most hated people in the history of this forum?

What do you laugh about then, how you have ignored every good piece of advice anyone on this forum has ever given you?  That doesn't seem like something you should be laughing about.

Pretty much!  We laugh because both sides are hard headed and seemingly unwilling to give an inch.  We laugh at the tug-of-war, even though I'm one of the teams in the tug-of-war.  We also laugh because the reality of the situation is not near as dire as what the forum thinks it is.  Perhaps that's because I'm being too candid to the point that I'm slightly over exaggerting.  That is possible.  I do tend to overthink things which causes the forum to overreact because of my extreme candidness. 

I will rebut one of your points, though, it was this forum that brought me out of ON Company and Ameriscam and the vacuum time wasters and it was this forum that got me to realize that I am not going to be able to adopt my children without either an American bride or a Kenyan bride.  If you've noticed, I haven't brought that up in a few weeks.  It is this forum along with my parents that, even though I'm appearing very hard headed and very stubborn, that is showing me where I can, and need to, improve at Xerox over how I handled Dell and the previous places.  I have to give props to Duke and ,IIRC, Grumps, in particular, who got me thinking that I need to focus on this next job at Xerox and zero in on it and take care of it so I can provide for my children and be in a better position to move down there.  I can't move down there, yet, because I don't have the funding, and I won't have the funding if I can't take care of a job up here.  So, believe me, Patrick, I am listening intently on what this forum is saying.  I may talk a good game, but I am listening.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on May 24, 2012, 11:50:58 PM
bushie...you've only been given common sense advice about your overall situation.  if you have to rely on an internet forum for so much common sense advice, then you should scale back your plans until you have a handle on the basics.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 24, 2012, 11:55:11 PM
bushie...you've only been given common sense advice about your overall situation.  if you have to rely on an internet forum for so much common sense advice, then you should scale back your plans until you have a handle on the basics.

Even with common sense advice, which it was, sometimes you have to hear it from someone else before it sinks in.  The forum has only echoed my parents advice.  So, I'm hearing it from my parents, people who have been there, and who are not internet friends.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on May 25, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
I am gonna throw a curveball - can you get employed in Kenya at Xerox?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 25, 2012, 12:33:14 AM
I am gonna throw a curveball - can you get employed in Kenya at Xerox?

I haven't researched that far, yet, but good question, though. :)


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: patrick1 on May 25, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
Bushie, sorry for mis-reading the nature of your yuks with jamespol then.  A lot of good people here have taken time out to try to help you along.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 25, 2012, 12:44:21 AM
Bushie, sorry for mis-reading the nature of your yuks with jamespol then.  A lot of good people here have taken time out to try to help you along.

You're fine, don't worry about it.  I really do appreciate the forum taking time out of their busy lives to give the advice.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 25, 2012, 11:21:11 AM
I figured out something this morning.

I am way too old to stay up until 2:00 am.  (I didn't get in bed until 2:15).  Subsequently, I didn't get up until 11:00.  I am way too old to be doing that, because now the day is literally almost half over (as of noon) and my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.  I'll be paying for this all day.  I can stay up until midnight just fine, and 1:00 is not that big of a deal, but once I get past 1:00, forget it, I need to go to bed.  I'm 30 years old and I'm not as young as I used to be.  My college self is long gone.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Franzl on May 25, 2012, 11:43:34 AM
I figured out something this morning.

I am way too old to stay up until 2:00 am.  (I didn't get in bed until 2:15).  Subsequently, I didn't get up until 11:00.  I am way too old to be doing that, because now the day is literally almost half over (as of noon) and my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.  I'll be paying for this all day.  I can stay up until midnight just fine, and 1:00 is not that big of a deal, but once I get past 1:00, forget it, I need to go to bed.  I'm 30 years old and I'm not as young as I used to be.  My college self is long gone.

It's just a matter of what you're used to.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 25, 2012, 11:46:23 AM
...my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.

Are you 30 or 87?


I'd love to see your "college self."


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on May 25, 2012, 11:50:45 AM
...my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.

Are you 30 or 87?


I'd love to see your "college self."
He does get senior discounts at restaurants...


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 25, 2012, 11:51:53 AM
...my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.


Are you 30 or 87?

To be honest, I'm not sure sometimes!

Quote

I'd love to see your "college self."

I wasn't too wild in college, but I did pull many 2, 3, 4 am mornings.


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 25, 2012, 11:52:37 AM
...my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.

Are you 30 or 87?


I'd love to see your "college self."
He does get senior discounts at restaurants...

LOL,

We went to the same place last evening for dinner and I looked at the ticket and we were charged correctly, this time!


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 28, 2012, 11:31:31 PM
As of this Friday, 1 June 2012, I will be exactly 2 3/4 years from my projected move date to the Republic of Kenya which is 1 March 2015!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on May 29, 2012, 09:05:23 AM

No way!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on May 31, 2012, 11:32:15 AM
OK this is just trolling.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 31, 2012, 11:42:56 AM

Maybe, but I'm just giving an update.  I will continue to give updates, but soon they will be real updates, not troll updates.  Why? I am only 2 1/2 weeks from starting at Xerox, so we'll be getting that revved up again.  Plus, I did apply for another, higher paying job yesterday, which i will hear about sometime next week.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 31, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Save your money for your bills and your kids.......


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on May 31, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Applying for other jobs before start date really shows the level of commitment I look for in my employees.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 31, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
Someone needs to convince The Professor to run a commentary in the Update Thread.  That's the only way to make it interesting again.

Bushie is applying for a new job before he starts this job?  How many of The Professor's students would apply to be in another class before they started his class?  That's not a good way to get girls.  He knows because he is a professor....

...and so on.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on May 31, 2012, 12:38:19 PM
Applying for other jobs before start date really shows the level of commitment I look for in my employees.

It shows the commitment I have to my family.  Once June 18 hits, if I have no other job that pays more and has more immediate benefits and is a better fit, then I will remain completely committed to Xerox.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 01:42:39 AM
Applying for other jobs before start date really shows the level of commitment I look for in my employees.
the 1%


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 01:43:44 AM
...my left shoulder is sore, and I've got a headache from sleeping too late.

Are you 30 or 87?


I'd love to see your "college self."
He does get senior discounts at restaurants...

LOL,

We went to the same place last evening for dinner and I looked at the ticket and we were charged correctly, this time!
Did your clothing preferences change?


Title: Re: I have a HUGE opportunity (Attention Whoring)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 01, 2012, 06:44:55 AM

Bushie's college self? He earned his e-degree in e-marketing after completing an online quiz, which took him probably twenty minutes.

God bless modern Oklahoma education!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 01, 2012, 01:21:28 PM
I just got a call from Xerox informing me that I am officially cleared to begin work on Monday, 18 June 2012.  The times are not known at this particular time as they are still trying to iron out the details for this class.  They do know there will be two classes one in the morning from 06:00-14:30 and the other from 15:00-23:30 Monday-Friday for the first four weeks which would take me through Friday, 13 July 2012.  After that, the schedules will likely go nuts again.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 01, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
I just got a call from Xerox informing me that I am officially cleared to begin work on Monday, 18 June 2012.  The times are not known at this particular time as they are still trying to iron out the details for this class.  They do know there will be two classes one in the morning from 06:00-14:30 and the other from 15:00-23:30 Monday-Friday for the first four weeks which would take me through Friday, 13 July 2012.  After that, the schedules will likely go nuts again.

How much does this job pay again?  I am just wondering if you have prepared a spreadsheet with a financial plan (be sure to include the cost of the presents you will buy for two Christmases by the way - you do know that present giving is Pagan by the way don't you?) of just how you will amass a financial war chest for your foray into Kenya to save the children (in more ways than one of course). Or is the plan to just make ends meet, and do a redux of the fleece thing from time to time as necessary? If only you could make yourself into a 501(c)(3) charity, then the fleecees could get a deduction for their payments to the fleeceor. Maybe you could get your congressman to put in a private bill for you. That was how my dad got our illegal Hispanic maid legalized back in the 1960's. I went to school with the daughter of the Congressman, and so it was a Daddy, to Torie to Congressman's daughter to Congressman infield play. Not bad for an 11 year old eh?  :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 01, 2012, 04:11:49 PM
I just got a call from Xerox informing me that I am officially cleared to begin work on Monday, 18 June 2012.  The times are not known at this particular time as they are still trying to iron out the details for this class.  They do know there will be two classes one in the morning from 06:00-14:30 and the other from 15:00-23:30 Monday-Friday for the first four weeks which would take me through Friday, 13 July 2012.  After that, the schedules will likely go nuts again.

How much does this job pay again?  I am just wondering if you have prepared a spreadsheet with a financial plan (be sure to include the cost of the presents you will buy for two Christmases by the way - you do know that present giving is Pagan by the way don't you?) of just how you will amass a financial war chest for your foray into Kenya to save the children (in more ways than one of course). Or is the plan to just make ends meet, and do a redux of the fleece thing from time to time as necessary? If only you could make yourself into a 501(c)(3) charity, then the fleecees could get a deduction for their payments to the fleeceor. Maybe you could get your congressman to put in a private bill for you. That was how my dad got our illegal Hispanic maid legalized back in the 1960's. I went to school with the daughter of the Congressman, and so it was a Daddy, to Torie to Congressman's daughter to Congressman infield play. Not bad for an 11 year old eh?  :P

The job doesn't pay near as much as Dell, but it is permanent and it is a direct-hire, not a temp-to-hire.  It will get my career started immediately instead of working for x months before getting my career started.

I do have a spreadsheet with my projected finances from now through the middle of October with every bill I have and anticipate between now and then with the knowledge that it is very fluid and very tentative.  I update it at least 3 times each week.  I am pretty good about tracking my finances.  Right now, this is primarily to make ends meet and to provide for my two children.  I'm not thinking of Christmas gifts right now for anybody, let alone my children.

The good news with this position, is that since Apple is moving to Oklahoma City for the first time, and that they promote from within, I will be able to promote relatively quickly and possibly get back to a decent wage again very soon.

My return trip to Kenya next March is already paid for, so I don't have to worry about that.  I am now going to start putting back for my month-long stay in Kenya for my "assessment period" of the living conditions which I hope to do in early 2014, maybe going there around February 22, 2014 and coming back when the team comes back on March 24.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 01, 2012, 04:16:06 PM
I was asking I guess for the hourly pay rate, so I could get some sense as to whether your spreadsheet was of this world, or more of the next actually, where the waters turn to wine with no production costs. I mean, I have some modest skill with financial spreadsheets myself. See, we have something in common. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 01, 2012, 04:21:42 PM
I was asking I guess for the hourly pay rate, so I could get some sense as to whether your spreadsheet was of this world, or more of the next actually, where waters turns to wine with no production costs. I mean, I have some modest skill with financial spreadsheets myself. See, we have something in common. :)

For the first 8 weeks (through Friday, 10 August 2012), I will be making $10.00/hr.  After that, I will make $12.00/hr.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 01, 2012, 04:24:51 PM
I was asking I guess for the hourly pay rate, so I could get some sense as to whether your spreadsheet was of this world, or more of the next actually, where waters turns to wine with no production costs. I mean, I have some modest skill with financial spreadsheets myself. See, we have something in common. :)

For the first 8 weeks (through Friday, 10 August 2012), I will be making $10.00/hr.  After that, I will make $12.00/hr.

So 24K per year more of less in gross pay prior to FICA and some other minor offsets, maybe 20K net. Maybe you should post your spreadsheet so we could help you "refine" it, and make this a team effort.

By the way, do you plan to lose any weight prior to facing the daunting challenges of Kenya? I mean, you need to get your resistance up.  You don't want to be a sickie in Kenya do you? Do they have "free" medical care in Kenya for foreigners?  By the way, can you legally go to Kenya, and just stay, or do they bounce you out after six months?  Or is the plan to become an illegal there?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 01, 2012, 04:29:09 PM
I was asking I guess for the hourly pay rate, so I could get some sense as to whether your spreadsheet was of this world, or more of the next actually, where waters turns to wine with no production costs. I mean, I have some modest skill with financial spreadsheets myself. See, we have something in common. :)

For the first 8 weeks (through Friday, 10 August 2012), I will be making $10.00/hr.  After that, I will make $12.00/hr.

So 24K per year more of less in gross pay prior to FICA and some other minor offsets, maybe 20K net. Maybe you should post your spreadsheet so we could help you "refine" it, and make this a team effort.

Pretty much.  My benefits won't take effect until the 1st of the month following 90 days of employment, which will be 1 October.  As for my spreadsheet, I still reserve some form of privacy. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 01, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
Bushie, you already told us all there is to know about your sex life. How much you spend on housing and sugared soft drinks and pizza and utilities (do you turn the AC on in the summer?), seems rather prosaic by comparison, no?  (Oh, I forgot the tithing God wants you to do, so that is a 2K expense right there, or maybe 2.4K if the 10% is off the gross rather than the net.) Yes, I knew that you would agree. It is not as if you have pot bills, or hooker/gigolo bills, or anything (not even booze right?). (Yes, my spreadsheet would probably be more interesting.) We are here to help Bushie. Think about it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 01, 2012, 05:03:30 PM
Bushie, you already told us all there is to know about your sex life. How much you spend on housing and sugared soft drinks and pizza and utilities (do you turn the AC on in the summer?), seems rather prosaic by comparison, no?  (Oh, I forgot the tithing God wants you to do, so that is a 2K expense right there, or maybe 2.4K if the 10% is off the gross rather than the net.) Yes, I knew that you would agree. It is not as if you have pot bills, or hooker/gigolo bills, or anything (not even booze right?). (Yes, my spreadsheet would probably be more interesting.) We are here to help Bushie. Think about it.

Still, there are somethings that should remain private.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 01, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
Ok, fair enough. Wear sex on your sleeve, but keep the sugared soft drinks closeted. Good luck! 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
How about we put a part of your expenses as "private" Bushie? You give us the estimate, we have the forum figure out the rest of the spreadsheet, and help you figure where you can cut back to help you save for your Kenyan adventures. You can also tell us if it's possible to cutback on the private expenses.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 05:22:51 PM
As bonus we can start a betting pool on Bushie's private expenses in case they ever get revealed, where members of the forum can buy-in.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 01, 2012, 05:23:07 PM
How about we put a part of your expenses as "private" Bushie? You give us the estimate, we have the forum figure out the rest of the spreadsheet, and help you figure where you can cut back to help you save for your Kenyan adventures. You can also tell us if it's possible to cutback on the private expenses.

No, I appreciate the offer, and I know this forum could give good advice as it has over the past 3 or more years of the Update life.  However, I choose to keep it private for obvious reasons that you never know who could be reading this forum and might use it against me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 01, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
How about we put a part of your expenses as "private" Bushie? You give us the estimate, we have the forum figure out the rest of the spreadsheet, and help you figure where you can cut back to help you save for your Kenyan adventures. You can also tell us if it's possible to cutback on the private expenses.

No, I appreciate the offer, and I know this forum could give good advice as it has over the past 3 or more years of the Update life.  However, I choose to keep it private for obvious reasons that you never know who could be reading this forum and might use it against me.

Bushie, we have more than enough already to put you away for life as it were, but we love you, and would never use it against you. But no problem.  It was just meant as a friendly offer. Whatever you are spending money on, or whatever other transfer payments you are getting that you don't want to disclose, is mere rounding error. As I said, my spreadsheet would lap yours several times over, and well, I have sort of "disclosed" mine. Life is beautiful, and the more you just open up, the happier you are. Closets are just so constricting - veritable self imposed prisons.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 02, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
How about we put a part of your expenses as "private" Bushie? You give us the estimate, we have the forum figure out the rest of the spreadsheet, and help you figure where you can cut back to help you save for your Kenyan adventures. You can also tell us if it's possible to cutback on the private expenses.

No, I appreciate the offer, and I know this forum could give good advice as it has over the past 3 or more years of the Update life.  However, I choose to keep it private for obvious reasons that you never know who could be reading this forum and might use it against me.

Bushie, we have more than enough already to put you away for life as it were, but we love you, and would never use it against you. But no problem.  It was just meant as a friendly offer. Whatever you are spending money on, or whatever other transfer payments you are getting that you don't want to disclose, is mere rounding error. As I said, my spreadsheet would lap yours several times over, and well, I have sort of "disclosed" mine. Life is beautiful, and the more you just open up, the happier you are. Closets are just so constricting - veritable self imposed prisons.

You have? Please direct me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 03, 2012, 09:51:23 PM
I am two weeks from beginning my job at Xerox.  While I don't know officially my shift for the first four weeks, I am pretty sure it will be 06:00-14:30.  With that in mind, beginning this Tuesday, I will start trending my wake up times every morning so when the morning of Monday, 18 June 2012 rolls around I will be prepared.  With a 06:00 start time, I want to be there by 05:15, and it is a 30 minute drive, so I will be leaving the house between 4:45-4:50 each morning.  I plan on having my alarm settle at 2:45 am to give me a full two hours to get ready for work.  This means I will need to be in bed by 20:00 or 20:30 at the latest.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 03, 2012, 09:57:53 PM
...45 minutes early? At my call center the doors aren't even openable until 30 minutes before we open. And the only people who show up 45 minutes early, or more than 15 minutes really are the people who carpool with people who start sooner.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 04, 2012, 05:34:46 PM

No, it gives me a nice cushion in case of traffic (but at 5:00, I don't think there will be much traffic), but more than that, it gives me time to settle down, get a drink, use the facilities, and relax before the day starts.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on June 04, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
He's done this before guys. I'm not surprised he's planning to show up so early. I doubt you'll run into any traffic at 5am though...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 04, 2012, 06:09:41 PM
He's done this before guys. I'm not surprised he's planning to show up so early. I doubt you'll run into any traffic at 5am though...

Fo realz! Oklahoma has like.. 30 cars, maybe 35 MAX.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 04, 2012, 06:31:58 PM
He's done this before guys. I'm not surprised he's planning to show up so early. I doubt you'll run into any traffic at 5am though...

Fo realz! Oklahoma has like.. 30 cars, maybe 35 MAX.

Hey, now, we have 40 and you know it. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on June 05, 2012, 03:30:36 AM
How do you double what a car's worth in Oklahoma?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on June 05, 2012, 05:50:26 AM
Do you have some method of defending yourself against these when you go on your next trip to Kenya?:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lions-unafraid-of-humans-are-preying-on-dogs-in-nairobis-suburbs/story-fnb64oi6-1226382544162


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 05, 2012, 12:50:21 PM
Do you have some method of defending yourself against these when you go on your next trip to Kenya?:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lions-unafraid-of-humans-are-preying-on-dogs-in-nairobis-suburbs/story-fnb64oi6-1226382544162


Wildlife don't normally make their way into the main cities on Nairobi and Kisumu.  When I go to Kenya, I will always stay in the main city and not venture out into the safari.  My goal is to have lunch, not be lunch!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on June 05, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
Do you have some method of defending yourself against these when you go on your next trip to Kenya?:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lions-unafraid-of-humans-are-preying-on-dogs-in-nairobis-suburbs/story-fnb64oi6-1226382544162


Wildlife don't normally make their way into the main cities on Nairobi and Kisumu.  When I go to Kenya, I will always stay in the main city and not venture out into the safari.  My goal is to have lunch, not be lunch!

You better hit up the treadmill there Bushie.   Lions tend to pick the low hanging fruit for lunch.  Your fellow Kenyans can run for days.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 05, 2012, 01:55:28 PM
And as our forum expert opbeo has frequently explained, lions do love them some Christian meat.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on June 05, 2012, 04:18:32 PM
Do you have some method of defending yourself against these when you go on your next trip to Kenya?:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lions-unafraid-of-humans-are-preying-on-dogs-in-nairobis-suburbs/story-fnb64oi6-1226382544162


Wildlife don't normally make their way into the main cities on Nairobi and Kisumu.  When I go to Kenya, I will always stay in the main city and not venture out into the safari.  My goal is to have lunch, not be lunch!

You don't have to venture out into the safari.  As the article says, lions have been penetrating Nairobi's suburbs of late.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Insula Dei on June 06, 2012, 03:56:05 PM
That's not actually what 'safari' means?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 11:49:05 AM
Yeah, I know that's not the actual meaning of safari, but it sounds cool!  You have to remember, I watch John Wayne's movie Hatari quite a bit which is based in the Tanzanian "Safari" (the southern neighbor of Kenya).  That movie is starting to become one of my favorites!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 07, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
am i misreading things here...or is torie being a total ass?

we get it torie...you have lots of money.  you drink a lot.  and you wouldnt allow any child of yours to turn out like bushie...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 07, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
Torie is frequently a total ass. He just hides it with verbosity.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 07, 2012, 02:58:22 PM
am i misreading things here...or is torie being a total ass?

we get it torie...you have lots of money.  you drink a lot.  and you wouldnt allow any child of yours to turn out like bushie...

Well the drink a lot part is false. Lawyers have a license to be asses.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 07, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
Why does it take you two hours to get ready? Even when I need to put on a suit it is no longer than a 45 min between when I get up and when I leave. You need 30 minutes to get ready. Leave at 5:15. Get there at 5:45, pour yourself a cup of coffee, go use the bathroom, lie back in your chair, whatever. Wake up at 4:45, get two more hours of sleep.

EDIT: Just timed myself. 9 minutes from underwear to tie, suit, socks, and shoes- ready to go. I usually proceed at a more leisurely pace, but it shows it can be done. It takes 10 minutes to shower- wash hair, shave, lather, brush teeth. 2 minutes for lotion and deodorant. It might take you 5 minutes for slacks and a shirt. What are we at- 17 minutes. That's 13 minutes for breakfast- more than enough time for oatmeal or cereal and a few articles in the paper or even some scrambled eggs and toast. Getting ready in 30 minutes is easy, if you time yourself. I used to struggle to be ready by 6:45 waking up at 6, since I started keeping track of the time I'm often ready to go by 6:25.

If this is too challenging, consider getting things ready the night before. I can spend an hour or more dithering on what suit/shirt/tie/shoe/combination to wear at times, so I like to arrange my wardrobe before going to sleep when the occasion calls. When pressed for time, I will shower in the evening and simply brush my teeth, floss, and shave in the morning. If I want eggs, often I will make eggs at night and reheat them for breakfast with toast. If one makes a point of it, you can save a lot of time getting ready, and in your case save two hours.

On a related note: how do you dress? What is your appearance like- clean shaven, glasses, etc?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Why does it take you two hours to get ready? Even when I need to put on a suit it is no longer than a 45 min between when I get up and when I leave. You need 30 minutes to get ready. Leave at 5:15. Get there at 5:45, pour yourself a cup of coffee, go use the bathroom, lie back in your chair, whatever. Wake up at 4:45, get two more hours of sleep.

EDIT: Just timed myself. 9 minutes from underwear to tie, suit, socks, and shoes- ready to go. I usually proceed at a more leisurely pace, but it shows it can be done. It takes 10 minutes to shower- wash hair, shave, lather, brush teeth. 2 minutes for lotion and deodorant. It might take you 5 minutes for slacks and a shirt. What are we at- 17 minutes. That's 13 minutes for breakfast- more than enough time for oatmeal or cereal and a few articles in the paper or even some scrambled eggs and toast. Getting ready in 30 minutes is easy, if you time yourself. I used to struggle to be ready by 6:45 waking up at 6, since I started keeping track of the time I'm often ready to go by 6:45.

If this is too challenging, consider getting things ready the night before. I can spend an hour or more dithering on what suit/shirt/tie/shoe/combination to wear at times, so I like to arrange my wardrobe before going to sleep when the occasion calls. When pressed for time, I will shower in the evening and simply brush my teeth, floss, and shave in the morning. If I want eggs, often I will make eggs at night and reheat them for breakfast with toast. If one makes a point of it, you can save a lot of time getting ready, and in your case save two hours.

On a related note: how do you dress? What is your appearance like- clean shaven, glasses, etc?

I say my alarm will go off at 3:00, but in reality, I'll probably end up getting up at 3:45 which would give me an hour until I leave, which, you're right, would be a lot easier especially that early in the morning.  I like to set my alarm earlier than I want to get up which is set to K-Love Christian Radio so i can listen to positive music and start rousing up before I get up.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 06:25:44 PM
Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 07, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
Why does it take you two hours to get ready? Even when I need to put on a suit it is no longer than a 45 min between when I get up and when I leave. You need 30 minutes to get ready. Leave at 5:15. Get there at 5:45, pour yourself a cup of coffee, go use the bathroom, lie back in your chair, whatever. Wake up at 4:45, get two more hours of sleep.

EDIT: Just timed myself. 9 minutes from underwear to tie, suit, socks, and shoes- ready to go. I usually proceed at a more leisurely pace, but it shows it can be done. It takes 10 minutes to shower- wash hair, shave, lather, brush teeth. 2 minutes for lotion and deodorant. It might take you 5 minutes for slacks and a shirt. What are we at- 17 minutes. That's 13 minutes for breakfast- more than enough time for oatmeal or cereal and a few articles in the paper or even some scrambled eggs and toast. Getting ready in 30 minutes is easy, if you time yourself. I used to struggle to be ready by 6:45 waking up at 6, since I started keeping track of the time I'm often ready to go by 6:45.

If this is too challenging, consider getting things ready the night before. I can spend an hour or more dithering on what suit/shirt/tie/shoe/combination to wear at times, so I like to arrange my wardrobe before going to sleep when the occasion calls. When pressed for time, I will shower in the evening and simply brush my teeth, floss, and shave in the morning. If I want eggs, often I will make eggs at night and reheat them for breakfast with toast. If one makes a point of it, you can save a lot of time getting ready, and in your case save two hours.

On a related note: how do you dress? What is your appearance like- clean shaven, glasses, etc?

I say my alarm will go off at 3:00, but in reality, I'll probably end up getting up at 3:45 which would give me an hour until I leave, which, you're right, would be a lot easier especially that early in the morning.  I like to set my alarm earlier than I want to get up which is set to K-Love Christian Radio so i can listen to positive music and start rousing up before I get up.

Read what I said. You don't need to wake up that early, still. What do you do in the mornings? Perhaps you should try a dry run of my suggestions- at least see if it works for you. And the dress?

What are these Tribal doctors like? I don't buy this.

Have you considered what to do in Kenya? I'd think you could try your luck setting up a call center- you good make some good money, maybe!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
Why does it take you two hours to get ready? Even when I need to put on a suit it is no longer than a 45 min between when I get up and when I leave. You need 30 minutes to get ready. Leave at 5:15. Get there at 5:45, pour yourself a cup of coffee, go use the bathroom, lie back in your chair, whatever. Wake up at 4:45, get two more hours of sleep.

EDIT: Just timed myself. 9 minutes from underwear to tie, suit, socks, and shoes- ready to go. I usually proceed at a more leisurely pace, but it shows it can be done. It takes 10 minutes to shower- wash hair, shave, lather, brush teeth. 2 minutes for lotion and deodorant. It might take you 5 minutes for slacks and a shirt. What are we at- 17 minutes. That's 13 minutes for breakfast- more than enough time for oatmeal or cereal and a few articles in the paper or even some scrambled eggs and toast. Getting ready in 30 minutes is easy, if you time yourself. I used to struggle to be ready by 6:45 waking up at 6, since I started keeping track of the time I'm often ready to go by 6:45.

If this is too challenging, consider getting things ready the night before. I can spend an hour or more dithering on what suit/shirt/tie/shoe/combination to wear at times, so I like to arrange my wardrobe before going to sleep when the occasion calls. When pressed for time, I will shower in the evening and simply brush my teeth, floss, and shave in the morning. If I want eggs, often I will make eggs at night and reheat them for breakfast with toast. If one makes a point of it, you can save a lot of time getting ready, and in your case save two hours.

On a related note: how do you dress? What is your appearance like- clean shaven, glasses, etc?

I say my alarm will go off at 3:00, but in reality, I'll probably end up getting up at 3:45 which would give me an hour until I leave, which, you're right, would be a lot easier especially that early in the morning.  I like to set my alarm earlier than I want to get up which is set to K-Love Christian Radio so i can listen to positive music and start rousing up before I get up.

Read what I said. You don't need to wake up that early, still. What do you do in the mornings? Perhaps you should try a dry run of my suggestions- at least see if it works for you. And the dress?

What are these Tribal doctors like? I don't buy this.

Have you considered what to do in Kenya? I'd think you could try your luck setting up a call center- you good make some good money, maybe!

If I have time in the mornings, I like to have a short 15-minute Bible Study to get my day started off on the right foot.  I don't always make time to do that, but that's something I like to do.

I have never been to these Tribal doctors, so I can't speak from experience, but my grandfather's cousin and her immediate family have all gotten free medical and dental care.  In fact, she told one story that her daughter had to take her grandson in for emergency wisdom teeth surgery.  Two were growing normally, but the other two were growing sideways into the jaw.  They sent them to Tahlequah in Eastern Oklahoma and what would have been an $8,000 procedure, all they paid was the gas money to get to and from Tahlequah.  The procedure itself was completely paid for.  Other people have had to go to Norman for bigger treatment and paid nothing.  So, I don't know what the experience will be like, but if it saves me a bunch of money, I am willing to do just about anything.

When I go down there, I will go down under the support of Maisha Int'l Orphanage and work mostly at the Orphanage on the outskirts of Kisumu.  I'm about ready to start researching places to stay in Kisumu.  I will, most likely, have to have a regular job to provide major support, but I still have 32 months (as of 1 July) at a minimum to research all that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on June 07, 2012, 06:58:41 PM
Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.

Snake it until you make it, I guess.

While I support Universal health care in the US as a goal, I don't think you should be taking up resources from people who are actually, you know, Native Americans. 1/32 what a joke.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 07:18:43 PM
Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.

Snake it until you make it, I guess.

While I support Universal health care in the US as a goal, I don't think you should be taking up resources from people who are actually, you know, Native Americans. 1/32 what a joke.

If I'm entitled to it, then by all means I'm going to endulge especially given my financial situation.  I am starting to become involved in more activities with the Citizen Potawatomi Nation.  I will be attending their annual Pow Wow on Friday evening, 29 June 2012 and Saturday, 30 June 2012.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on June 07, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 07, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Bible study? I see then. Do try the dry run.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 08:04:19 PM

That's what I plan on doing next week.  Maybe not at 4:00 am, but earlier than what I'm doing now, so probably about 6:00 am.  One morning next week I am going to do a dry run ending with a drive to work.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 07, 2012, 09:16:07 PM

That's what I plan on doing next week.  Maybe not at 4:00 am, but earlier than what I'm doing now, so probably about 6:00 am.  One morning next week I am going to do a dry run ending with a drive to work.

That sounds good. Try to time yourself- you'll find it take a lot shorter than it seems.

Back to the related note: how do you dress? What is your appearance like- clean shaven, glasses, etc?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 09:27:40 PM

That's what I plan on doing next week.  Maybe not at 4:00 am, but earlier than what I'm doing now, so probably about 6:00 am.  One morning next week I am going to do a dry run ending with a drive to work.

That sounds good. Try to time yourself- you'll find it take a lot shorter than it seems.

Back to the related note: how do you dress? What is your appearance like- clean shaven, glasses, etc?

Generally clean shaven, glasses, non-holy jeans and a collared polo.  My line of work doesn't require professional dress except when the customers visit the facility.  I try to shave at least every other day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 07, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
That sounds good. If I were you, I'd switch to dress slacks, with pleats, and button down shirts. Especially ones with vertical stripes- they accentuate height over girth. Avoid checks and horizontal stripes. Wear your pants at the natural waist to prevent ungainly fat hanging over your belt- happens to us all. Ties also serve to accentuate height, but perhaps that's a bridge too far.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on June 07, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 11:31:42 PM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 07, 2012, 11:59:24 PM
Do you still have the mustache?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 08, 2012, 12:14:46 AM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?

Yes, Sioux County, ND. But I don't have any experience with their medical care because my parents would commute 80 miles to Bismarck whenever me or any of my brothers had to go to the doctor, and also when all three of us were born. Which probably speaks to the quality of it. Please note this even applied when I fell into a window well at age 4 and knocked out some teeth and was bleeding from the mouth. They still took me on the 80 mile drive instead of seeking medical attention on the Reservation.

But as poor as many of the individuals on those Reservations are (Sioux has the 8th lowest median income in the US), I think it's a mistake to consider the tribes themselves poor, anyone who's visited a tribal casino can tell you they certainly aren't barely scraping by (and consider all those profits are tax-free...)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on June 08, 2012, 08:17:38 AM
Where does the money for the tribal medical care come from?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 08, 2012, 08:27:44 AM
Where does the money for the tribal medical care come from?

Your pocket.....now get back to work and fund it :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 08, 2012, 12:14:56 PM

Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 08, 2012, 04:42:02 PM

why not?  just curious....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 08, 2012, 05:26:23 PM

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 08, 2012, 05:32:55 PM

Bushie, is Ron Sparks your relative?

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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on June 08, 2012, 05:37:21 PM

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

I think I am beginning to see a method to your madness. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 08, 2012, 05:38:58 PM

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

what does this have to do with keeping a moustache?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 08, 2012, 08:17:51 PM

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

what does this have to do with keeping a moustache?

The whole reason I would have gotten rid of it was to try to look more attractive to the ladies.  Since that is not a major concern of mine at this point, I see no reason to shave it off entirely.  I will keep it trimmed and well groomed with the job, but I'm not going to shave it off completely.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 08, 2012, 08:18:18 PM

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

I think I am beginning to see a method to your madness. :)

See, I'm not completely loopy. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 08, 2012, 08:18:49 PM

Nope


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 08, 2012, 08:21:15 PM
I went to the Indian Clinic today and fill out the application.  It was VERY simple.  All I had to do was fill out a small slip of paper with 7 lines on it asking for Name, SSN, DOB, Address, and Tribe Affiliation.  They will give me a call on Monday to set up an appointment to come in and see the doctor.  The entire process took about 10 minutes.  I assume I will fill out the major paperwork at the first visit.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 09, 2012, 01:39:00 AM
Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.

1/32nd is enough to get you free stuff?  That seems a bit odd.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on June 09, 2012, 03:35:00 AM
Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.

1/32nd is enough to get you free stuff?  That seems a bit odd.
Should be 0/32 to get the "free" stuff ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 10, 2012, 10:55:22 AM
am i the only one who thinks that bushie isnt an indian?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Gustaf on June 11, 2012, 07:55:53 AM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!

Your monthly savings is more than I spend per year on healthcare. :o


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 11, 2012, 08:00:45 AM
am i the only one who thinks that bushie isnt an indian?


At 1/32nd.....it's not a strecth to say he's not.

Let's see, with European ancenstry I'm probably 1/32nd of every damn country there :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 11, 2012, 08:07:30 AM
am i the only one who thinks that bushie isnt an indian?


At 1/32nd.....it's not a strecth to say he's not.

Let's see, with European ancenstry I'm probably 1/32nd of every damn country there :)

By myself, I'm not indian, but it's because of my ancestors, not that many generations removed from me, that I can claim the Potawatomi as my heritage and am eligible for a card which entitles me to free tribal health care.

But, yeah, if you look at me and had no knowledge of my family history, I'm just a fat American.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 11, 2012, 09:19:39 AM
Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 11, 2012, 11:33:06 AM
Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?

No plans on that at this time.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on June 11, 2012, 12:26:07 PM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity.  

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!

Your monthly savings is more than I spend per year on healthcare. :o
It's news to you that healthcare is insanely overpriced here in the US? You should know that it's also a common experience to have to wait weeks for an appointment, then wait hours after your appointment time to be seen, be seen for just a minute or two, and then receive a bill for a few hundred dollars. And usually that's just to receive a permission slip to buy a drug that is also outrageously priced. A short hospital stay can easily cost a man a year's salary. And while fixing it all wouldn't be simple, it's not difficult to figure out that there are far too many hands in the cookie jar. Insurance companies, people whose job is to take pills from big bottles and put them in small bottles, and at every step of the way, an enormous army of very well paid advertisers and salesmen. And millions of Americans go bankrupt trying to manage the system. And plenty of them even have insurance. And now that even the government is going bankrupt just trying to pay for basic care for the elderly and destitute, it looks like this burden will soon be pushed even further onto those least able to afford it. All that said, I find it very difficult to cast judgement on Bushie for finding a way to circumvent this train wreck. Any sane person in his position would do the same.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 02:16:21 PM
Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?

No plans on that at this time.
Do you understand sarcasm at all?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Paul Kemp on June 11, 2012, 02:18:31 PM
This is getting better! A registered injun!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 11, 2012, 02:21:08 PM
I tend not to worry about it. My company pays for 100% of my insurance.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 11, 2012, 02:42:39 PM
Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?

No plans on that at this time.
Do you understand sarcasm at all?

Yes, and I was playing his game. ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 11, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
As you know, I begin my new career in one week on Monday, 18 June 2012.  I found out my hours for the first four weeks.  I will be working 15:30-00:00 Monday-Friday.  I was expecting 06:00-14:30, but I knew it could be the evening shift.  I will lose my evenings for a month, but I will get shift differential pay.  That may come back and bite a little bit come tax time, but I'm not worried about next Spring, I'm worried about June and July 2012.  So, all the talk about me getting up at 03:00 is out the window.  Instead, I'll be going to bed around 03:00!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on June 12, 2012, 03:34:27 AM
Wait, you got fired... again?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2012, 03:43:27 AM
Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity.  

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!

Your monthly savings is more than I spend per year on healthcare. :o
It's news to you that healthcare is insanely overpriced here in the US? You should know that it's also a common experience to have to wait weeks for an appointment, then wait hours after your appointment time to be seen, be seen for just a minute or two, and then receive a bill for a few hundred dollars. And usually that's just to receive a permission slip to buy a drug that is also outrageously priced. A short hospital stay can easily cost a man a year's salary. And while fixing it all wouldn't be simple, it's not difficult to figure out that there are far too many hands in the cookie jar. Insurance companies, people whose job is to take pills from big bottles and put them in small bottles, and at every step of the way, an enormous army of very well paid advertisers and salesmen. And millions of Americans go bankrupt trying to manage the system. And plenty of them even have insurance. And now that even the government is going bankrupt just trying to pay for basic care for the elderly and destitute, it looks like this burden will soon be pushed even further onto those least able to afford it. All that said, I find it very difficult to cast judgement on Bushie for finding a way to circumvent this train wreck. Any sane person in his position would do the same.

No, it's not news to me, I just still find it surprising. I can probably count the number of doctor/hospital visits I've done in my life on my two hands. Unless one has a chronic disease I'm not sure what one does to rack up these kinds of costs.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on June 12, 2012, 04:15:37 AM
Bushie, if you adopted those Kenyan kids and brought them back to Oklahoma, would they be eligible for free Indian health care?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 12, 2012, 08:24:02 AM

Someone's been a lil too pre-occupied with their band, I see :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 12, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
BushOK might be called up to star in an Obama ad. "Some say the economy isn't doing well. Some say they can't find a job. Hogwash! I've been able to find a job basically every other month even after being fired countless times!"


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on June 12, 2012, 09:27:01 AM
From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Call centers can be perilous work environments, for sure.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 12, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Call centers can be perilous work environments, for sure.

Its just a hypothetical scenario.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on June 12, 2012, 12:45:38 PM
BUSHIE!!! You're overlooking something major here: please shave your moustache before going to the PowWow.  You might meet a nice Potawatomi girl, Bushie. You never know what God has in store. ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 12, 2012, 12:49:01 PM
BUSHIE!!! You're overlooking something major here: please shave your moustache before going to the PowWow.  You might meet a nice Potawatomi girl, Bushie. You never know what God has in store. ;)

Yes, this x100.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Paul Kemp on June 12, 2012, 06:37:31 PM
BushOK might be called up to star in an Obama ad. "Some say the economy isn't doing well. Some say they can't find a job. Hogwash! I've been able to find a job basically every other month even after being fired countless times!"

You talking about RomneyKenya?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 13, 2012, 04:15:13 AM
btw... it's not a career... it's a job.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on June 13, 2012, 04:18:53 AM
btw... it's not a career... it's a job.

It's always a career. Until it's gone. Then the next career begins.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MasterJedi on June 13, 2012, 07:49:23 AM
btw... it's not a career... it's a job.

It's always a career. Until it's gone. Then the next career begins.

Well, a call center job can be a career, but it depends on the company and of course the person. Take for example the job I have in a call center at Northwestern Mutual. There are many advancement opportunities within the call center and the company also loves to fill other positions in the company internally so there are a lot of areas to go into after the required 22 months.

But the other part is on the person, and Bushie does not instil comfidence in me that this will actually turn into a career.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 13, 2012, 11:02:35 AM
I just got called with an appointment with the Indian Clinic.  It is on Saturday, 30 June 2012 at 8:00 am.  That is the day of the Citizen Potawatomi Festival (formerly Pow Wow), so I will be going down there then and staying for the Pow Wow.  The appointment should last until just before 10:00.

As for the job.  The reason I am not calling it a career at this point, is I only plan on staying there for 2 1/2 - 3 years as I hope to be moving to Kenya by 1 March 2015.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 14, 2012, 06:09:57 AM
It is on Saturday, 30 June 2012 at 8:00 am.  That is the day of the Citizen Potawatomi Festival (formerly Pow Wow), so I will be going down there then and staying for the Pow Wow. 

Of course you are.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on June 14, 2012, 08:04:17 AM
I think it's cool Bushie is going to a pow wow. We could all know a bit more about our background.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 14, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
Bushie I never asked, but do your kids know you're their dad exclusively, and do they write and call you daddy?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 15, 2012, 05:37:24 AM
Bushie I never asked, but do your kids know you're their dad exclusively, and do they write and call you daddy?

Yes to all questions.

----

I am about to head up to Northwestern Oklahoma to bid my beloved college suitemate adieu.  He passed away late Monday night after nearly 5 years battling Leukemia.  I'm going to leave here just before 6:00 and drive to Alva, our college town, and take a drive around town and then drive back to Enid for the funeral.  I haven't picked up a tuba in 10 years, but my suitemate wanted a band to play at his funeral.  They have asked me to play, as well, and I said I would be honored to honor my suitemate in that capacity.  I should be back into the OKC Metro by 5:30 and then will go straight to my cousins' for Bible Study before I come back home.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on June 15, 2012, 09:05:21 PM
My condolences on the loss of your friend.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 15, 2012, 09:26:17 PM
I'm home from a beautiful service honoring and celebrating the life of my college suitemate.  I drove 400 miles today just so i could have time to myself and reflect.  I left home at 5:45 this morning and just got home at 21:05.  I came home and found out that one of my next door neighbors passed away at 05:30 am today.  I wasn't especially close to him per se, but his son has cut my lawn quite often and done other yard work for me.  I've got many, many emotions running through my head right now, but I am rejoicing that Sunday is my first Father's Day thanks to my African children.  They are the apple of my eye and I so want to be there right now and hug them tightly, but I'm hugging them in Spirit!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 16, 2012, 09:47:01 AM
Ugh, you can't even be bothered to do your own yard work? You're no father, a father doesn't want nobody touching his damn grass.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 16, 2012, 10:01:16 AM
Really?  After a hard week you have to insult me?  Gee, thanks.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 17, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
If you read it as an insult, than sure. No problemo.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 18, 2012, 10:36:43 AM
I begin my career at Xerox this afternoon from 15:30-00:00.  I will leave here at 14:00 so I can get gas in the car and then be to work by 14:45.  I have to be there by 15:15 today, so 30 minutes earlier than that is perfect.  I will, of course, post an update on Day 1 sometime early Tuesday morning after I get home.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 18, 2012, 10:54:37 AM
What's up with the military time, dude?   I certainly can understand it well enough but why the change?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on June 18, 2012, 10:57:25 AM
What's up with the military time, dude?   I certainly can understand it well enough but why the change?

Because he's Kenyan, did you forget?

We use 24-hour time in Europe (and I imagine pretty much everywhere in the world).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 18, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
What's up with the military time, dude?   I certainly can understand it well enough but why the change?

Because he's Kenyan, did you forget?

We use 24-hour time in Europe (and I imagine pretty much everywhere in the world).

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, thanks, Franzl.....I didn't think he enlisted :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 18, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
What's up with the military time, dude?   I certainly can understand it well enough but why the change?

Because he's Kenyan, did you forget?

We use 24-hour time in Europe (and I imagine pretty much everywhere in the world).

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, thanks, Franzl.....I didn't think he enlisted :P

Technically, Kenya uses both civilian and military time, I just happen to prefer military time.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 18, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
Again... you started your JOB at Xerox today... each job change within the same field is not a new career.



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 19, 2012, 08:04:51 AM
Bushie is it Xerox, or a subcontractor of Xerox?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 19, 2012, 10:45:08 AM
Again... you started your JOB at Xerox today... each job change within the same field is not a new career.

Yeah the way he keeps saying "career" is pretty comical. This also means that he's on like his 7th "career" in the last two years, no one would consider that positive...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 19, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
Hell, I don't even know if I would consider my occupation a career. I make a good living, and it's not horrible work. I just can't see me calling it anything other than a job M


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 19, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
Bushie is it Xerox, or a subcontractor of Xerox?

My employer is Xerox, I am taking calls for their client, Apple.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on June 19, 2012, 12:48:37 PM
I begin my career at Xerox this afternoon from 15:30-00:00. 

Those are fantastic hours BushOK - anything to avoid the early mornings.



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 19, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
I begin my career at Xerox this afternoon from 15:30-00:00. 

Those are fantastic hours BushOK - anything to avoid the early mornings.



I don't mind them, mainly because of the shift differential I should receive!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 19, 2012, 02:53:49 PM
Bushie is it Xerox, or a subcontractor of Xerox?

My employer is Xerox, I am taking calls for their client, Apple.

Are you on a probationary period?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 20, 2012, 01:13:09 AM
Bushie is it Xerox, or a subcontractor of Xerox?

My employer is Xerox, I am taking calls for their client, Apple.

Are you on a probationary period?

I'm in a training phase that technically will last 90 days through September.  The classroom training will be over on Friday, 6 July 2012, and I'll be on the phones after that, but the "training/probationary" time lasts through September.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 20, 2012, 02:22:46 PM
uh.  bushie?  i hope this isnt you in this video.  :)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/19/white/


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 20, 2012, 02:44:19 PM
uh.  bushie?  i hope this isnt you in this video.  :)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/19/white/

Wow....just wow.....long lost brother?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 20, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Bushie isn't white though; he's a Native American.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on June 20, 2012, 03:01:32 PM
Bushie isn't white though; he's a Native American.

No, a native Kenyan-American.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 20, 2012, 06:16:28 PM
What's up with the military time, dude?   I certainly can understand it well enough but why the change?

It's kinda funny... when I see 24 hour time, I'm used to it being in UTC time, so I start converting it automatically.  But then I realize Bushie isn't talking UTC time, he's just using 24 hour CDT.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 21, 2012, 12:50:23 AM
What's up with the military time, dude?   I certainly can understand it well enough but why the change?

It's kinda funny... when I see 24 hour time, I'm used to it being in UTC time, so I start converting it automatically.  But then I realize Bushie isn't talking UTC time, he's just using 24 hour CDT.

Correct


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 21, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
I'm afraid that in less than a month.. I might be in the same state as Bushie for a few days. Super freaky!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 22, 2012, 01:04:11 AM
Bushie isn't white though; he's a Native American.

No, a native Kenyan-American.

Actually, I'm a Caucasian-Kenyan-Native American. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 22, 2012, 02:25:59 AM
I've completed 4 days at Xerox and I am having a blast.  I have a great group of coworkers who are very knowledgeable and very courteous and fun-loving.  I have a great trainer who is on loan from the Portland, Oregon location.  He is training us and will go back to Oregon after training is over on Saturday morning, 7 July 2012.  The reason he is here, is because as I mentioned before Apple is new at the Xerox in the Oklahoma City metropolitan area.  We are the 4th Apple Care site, which I am a part of.  The other three are Portland, Oregon; Raleigh, North Carolina; and Lexington, Kentucky.  There are other Apple call centers, but they are Tier 2, CPU (Mac computers), Sales, etc.  We are just Tier 1 for the iOS devices (iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch).

Later on tonight (Friday) at 22:30, I will have my first of three exams that I must pass to be able to move to the floor.  I'm not at all concerned about the first one, which is all we're focusing on for the moment.  It is only 22 questions and I will have 2 hours to do it.  I have to score 80% to pass the test, but my trainer says he took it himself and did not look anything up and scored 100% and said there are no trick questions and nothing is worded funny, which makes me feel better.



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 22, 2012, 02:36:17 AM
Um, I would hope that your trainer could score 100% on the test without having to look anything up...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 22, 2012, 02:41:03 AM
Um, I would hope that your trainer could score 100% on the test without having to look anything up...

LOL


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 23, 2012, 01:26:02 AM
Week 1 is in the books.  I really think this will be a good place to work.  I took the test Friday night at 23:00 and scored a 90%.  The minimum passing score was 80%, so I got more than enough. :)  Early next week, I will get my schedule for Week 4, which is our last week of training and our first week on the phone.  (9-13 July).  Then, hopefully, late next week, I will get my schedule for the next 3-4 months which will begin on Monday, 16 July 2012.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 23, 2012, 08:19:12 AM
Congrats!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 23, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
BushOK is going to have an interesting day tomorrow per his most recent status update! He's also going to be a "hot potato" by wearing jeans in the extreme Oklahoma heat!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 23, 2012, 11:19:07 PM
BushOK is going to have an interesting day tomorrow per his most recent status update! He's also going to be a "hot potato" by wearing jeans in the extreme Oklahoma heat!

Yep, I will be going to the Oklahoma City Zoo with the kids from church after church tomorrow.  The temperature is supposed to be 100 degrees under bright sunshine and since I don't own a pair of shorts, save for pajama shorts, I am going to be a baked potato by the time 17:00 rolls around!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on June 23, 2012, 11:40:27 PM
Yeah, shorts can be so prohibitively expensive these days.  Given the choice between buying a pair of shorts or paying the mortgage...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on June 24, 2012, 12:30:26 AM
Why would someone living some place with hot summers like Oklahoma not own any shorts?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on June 24, 2012, 12:31:46 AM
Why would someone living some place with hot summers like Oklahoma not own any shorts?

South/East coast "professionalism".


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 24, 2012, 01:23:02 AM
Why would someone living some place with hot summers like Oklahoma not own any shorts?

South/East coast "professionalism".

I'm just not a huge fan of shorts for some reason and probably it has something to do with professionalism.  The only pair of "public" shorts I own are my swim trunks.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on June 24, 2012, 01:30:42 AM
At 100 degrees, it matters very little whether one is wearing shorts or jeans. Either way, it's going to suck. I'd stick to the indoor attractions.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 24, 2012, 01:38:28 AM
At 100 degrees, it matters very little whether one is wearing shorts or jeans. Either way, it's going to suck. I'd stick to the indoor attractions.

It's definitely going to be hot, either way, I grant you.  I'll be sure to drink plenty of water throughout the 4 hours I will be out there.  I imagine I'll be spending some significant time in the air conditioned exhibits.

We went to the zoo back in late May when the temperatures were in the 80s primarily, but it was raining that day, so we had to go the indoor Science Museum (formerly known as the Omniplex) next door to the Zoo.  I would gladly trade!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on June 24, 2012, 03:35:47 AM
Wearing jeans in 100 degree weather is ridiculous.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 24, 2012, 08:28:46 AM
If shorts bother you (they kind of do for me) get some linen slacks, not jeans!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 24, 2012, 10:33:35 AM
I love this new term: "public shorts."


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 24, 2012, 10:54:59 AM
I love this new term: "public shorts."

I'm going to be using this from now on.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 24, 2012, 05:21:31 PM
I love this new term: "public shorts."

I'm going to be using this from now on.

Shorts acceptable to wear in public.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on June 24, 2012, 08:22:54 PM
What kind of shorts are not acceptable to wear in public? I've worn all kinds before.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 25, 2012, 07:53:28 AM
I don't think I want to see Bushie in shorts.......ugh.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 25, 2012, 11:12:22 AM
I don't think I want to see Bushie in shorts.......ugh.

THat's why I don't wear them. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 25, 2012, 11:42:23 AM
kenya is pretty hot.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 25, 2012, 12:13:33 PM
Generally, it is hotter in Kenya than in Oklahoma, but they are just coming out of their rainy season and while we are supposed to be 102-104 degrees over the next week, and 99 yesterday, Kisumu, Kenya was reporting light rain and lower 80's, according to weather.com.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on June 25, 2012, 01:05:17 PM
You'll need to buy some lighter clothes for Kenya. And maybe a few pairs of public shorts.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 25, 2012, 01:06:26 PM
I love this new term: "public shorts."


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 25, 2012, 01:12:49 PM
I don't think I want to see Bushie in shorts.......ugh.

THat's why I don't wear them. :)

...in public.

This man is crazy...like a fox.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 26, 2012, 02:16:51 AM
And now, a deep thought by BushKenya - I have often thought that Christmas lovers like myself get jipped every year.  There is 1 month out of the year where it's mostly our music, but 11 months out of the year there is not a peep of our music that is heard and if it is played, we are considered "weird, abnormal, crazy, even psychotic."  Why is that, I wonder?  Why are we considered crazy for practicing our hobby or interests?

Not trying to troll here, but just asking a question.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 26, 2012, 09:50:53 AM
Why would it be considered trolling? It's almost July. Christmas is right around the corner...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on June 26, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
yes bushie.  the war on christmas.   no one group is more oppressed than white christian males, obviously.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on June 26, 2012, 10:53:03 AM
And now, a deep thought by BushKenya - I have often thought that Christmas lovers like myself get jipped every year.  There is 1 month out of the year where it's mostly our music, but 11 months out of the year there is not a peep of our music that is heard and if it is played, we are considered "weird, abnormal, crazy, even psychotic."  Why is that, I wonder?  Why are we considered crazy for practicing our hobby or interests?

Not trying to troll here, but just asking a question.

One month? More like three, and it's damn annoying. Slaving year round for one day, that happens every year, is psychotic.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 26, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
yes bushie.  the war on christmas.   no one group is more oppressed than white christian males, obviously.

You're putting words in my mouth.  I was just asking a question and talked nothing about oppression.  I fully understand the effects of the Gregorian Calendar, and was actually trying to be a little comical with the words "deep thought".  I raised the same question on facebook, and was just trying to be a little comical.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 26, 2012, 11:50:26 AM
Bushie, I've always felt it was somewhat blasphemous to start celebrating Christmas before the proper season, since most of the pomp and circumstance about Christmas in September, October, and November is a commercialize, secularization, and distortion of the holiday. I'm aware many Protestants don't use Advent anymore and lack a clearly defined Christmas season on the calendar, but don't you think all of the lights, decorations, music, and storefront displays in October and November is a bit demeaning of the actual holiday?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 26, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
Bushie, I've always felt it was somewhat blasphemous to start celebrating Christmas before the proper season, since most of the pomp and circumstance about Christmas in September, October, and November is a commercialize, secularization, and distortion of the holiday. I'm aware many Protestants don't use Advent anymore and lack a clearly defined Christmas season on the calendar, but don't you think all of the lights, decorations, music, and storefront displays in October and November is a bit demeaning of the actual holiday?

To be fair, though, I don't believe there's evidence that suggests Jesus was born exactly on the 25th of December and that the day is just a formally set date for celebrating it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 26, 2012, 11:57:58 AM
Bushie, I've always felt it was somewhat blasphemous to start celebrating Christmas before the proper season, since most of the pomp and circumstance about Christmas in September, October, and November is a commercialize, secularization, and distortion of the holiday. I'm aware many Protestants don't use Advent anymore and lack a clearly defined Christmas season on the calendar, but don't you think all of the lights, decorations, music, and storefront displays in October and November is a bit demeaning of the actual holiday?

Not really.  Commercialism has gone too far, yes, but the way I see it, it gives me the opportunity to celebrate it more than just the 5 weeks between Thanksgiving and New Years.  That is exactly why I put my tree up and decorate my house in mid-October and is why I listen to Christmas music starting in the Summer.  In fact, I have a Christmas CD in my car CD player as we speak.  I don't listen to it constantly, and I switch back and forth with KLove Christian Radio, but I do listen to it often.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 26, 2012, 11:59:11 AM
Bushie, I've always felt it was somewhat blasphemous to start celebrating Christmas before the proper season, since most of the pomp and circumstance about Christmas in September, October, and November is a commercialize, secularization, and distortion of the holiday. I'm aware many Protestants don't use Advent anymore and lack a clearly defined Christmas season on the calendar, but don't you think all of the lights, decorations, music, and storefront displays in October and November is a bit demeaning of the actual holiday?

To be fair, though, I don't believe there's evidence that suggests Jesus was born exactly on the 25th of December and that the day is just a formally set date for celebrating it.

You're right, in fact, evidence suggests He was born in the Spring.  It doesn't matter the exact date, it just matters that He was indeed born.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 26, 2012, 12:13:11 PM
Born around the same time as the Easter Bunny, right?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 26, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
Born around the same time as the Easter Bunny, right?

Oh sure, BIG Daddy.....we can't have our Kenya story, but you can trash the guy.  :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 26, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
I just lost 5 infractions points by getting a 10-pointer (the Kenya story) due to shedding some older posts.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on June 26, 2012, 02:52:03 PM
What's the "Kenya story" people are getting infractions for?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on June 26, 2012, 03:02:57 PM
What's the "Kenya story" people are getting infractions for?

It was brilliant...but also very distasteful. Can't blame the mods.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 26, 2012, 03:30:56 PM
I don't think it was distasteful. It's not like the post was advocating RomneyKenya be fed to lions. We've had threads before like "guess how the previous poster will die" that are no worse.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 26, 2012, 03:33:45 PM
Born around the same time as the Easter Bunny, right?

Oh sure, BIG Daddy.....we can't have our Kenya story, but you can trash the guy.  :P

Me talking about the Easter Bunny is the same as Jeff being slowly killed and sufficated to death by a lion. Is that what you're telling me?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 26, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
Born around the same time as the Easter Bunny, right?

Oh sure, BIG Daddy.....we can't have our Kenya story, but you can trash the guy.  :P

Me talking about the Easter Bunny is the same as Jeff being slowly killed and sufficated to death by a lion. Is that what you're telling me?

Actually, the made up story was funny.......your trashes his faith........


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on June 26, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Born around the same time as the Easter Bunny, right?

Oh sure, BIG Daddy.....we can't have our Kenya story, but you can trash the guy.  :P

Me talking about the Easter Bunny is the same as Jeff being slowly killed and sufficated to death by a lion. Is that what you're telling me?

Actually, the made up story was funny.......your trashes his faith........

My apologies for the trashing of his faith. I'm sorry for making fun of my church Jeff, as well as yours. I will stop and ensure that nobody else does what I have. But I will now allow people to write stories on you having a horrific death. Let me know what works for you.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on June 26, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
Someone PM me the Kenya story!!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on June 26, 2012, 05:46:19 PM
I wish I had saved it now..:(


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on June 26, 2012, 08:23:29 PM
Mods, if you're going to delete something brilliant because of forum rules, at least have the decency to save it on pastebin for us to read with a NSFW tag.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on June 26, 2012, 11:23:37 PM
I have read the Kenya story. lol.

It might just be amusing enough to kick off a whole new craze, Bushie fanfic!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 27, 2012, 01:06:43 AM
To be honest, I actually got a good chuckle at the Kenya Story.  I can see why it was deleted and infracted and is the reason I didn't post in it, but I honestly took absolutely no offense and saw it as just some witty humor as something I would probably end up doing if given the right (or wrong?) circumstances.  It was just having fun at my expense.  I get that.  I was cool with it, but again I completely agree with the deletion and infraction of it for the precedent it could set.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 30, 2012, 02:49:22 AM
Good Saturday Morning!  I've had an eventful morning just in the two hours I've been off work.  My rear passenger tire nearly blew, but thankfully, I was able to pull off onto the side of I-40 on the east side of Yukon, west side of Oklahoma City and call AAA to come get me to take me to my parents' 35 miles away in Harrah.  This morning, I am going to just stay up as I am going to the Indian Clinic at 8:00 am this morning.  After I get back to my parents', I'm going to crash at their house for a few hours (at Dad's orders) before I head back home to Midwest City.  Then, tomorrow evening, which is Sunday, 1 July 2012, I'm going up to Broken Arrow (SE suburb of Tulsa) for a Christian Fireworks show, one of the largest displays in the State of Oklahoma.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on June 30, 2012, 04:05:55 AM
Good Saturday Morning!  I've had an eventful morning just in the two hours I've been off work.  My rear passenger tire nearly blew, but thankfully, I was able to pull off onto the side of I-40 on the east side of Yukon, west side of Oklahoma City and call AAA to come get me to take me to my parents' 35 miles away in Harrah.  This morning, I am going to just stay up as I am going to the Indian Clinic at 8:00 am this morning.  After I get back to my parents', I'm going to crash at their house for a few hours (at Dad's orders) before I head back home to Midwest City.  Then, tomorrow evening, which is Sunday, 1 July 2012, I'm going up to Broken Arrow (SE suburb of Tulsa) for a Christian Fireworks show, one of the largest displays in the State of Oklahoma.
How did you drive without a car? Isn't that like over 100 miles of driving too, considering that OKC is more sprawly than LA?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 30, 2012, 11:00:33 AM
Yeah, I fully understand the rationale.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 30, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
Good Saturday Morning!  I've had an eventful morning just in the two hours I've been off work.  My rear passenger tire nearly blew, but thankfully, I was able to pull off onto the side of I-40 on the east side of Yukon, west side of Oklahoma City and call AAA to come get me to take me to my parents' 35 miles away in Harrah.  This morning, I am going to just stay up as I am going to the Indian Clinic at 8:00 am this morning.  After I get back to my parents', I'm going to crash at their house for a few hours (at Dad's orders) before I head back home to Midwest City.  Then, tomorrow evening, which is Sunday, 1 July 2012, I'm going up to Broken Arrow (SE suburb of Tulsa) for a Christian Fireworks show, one of the largest displays in the State of Oklahoma.
How did you drive without a car? Isn't that like over 100 miles of driving too, considering that OKC is more sprawly than LA?

My grandmother (who is the instigator in all this) let me use her car.  My car is fixed now, it just had to have two new tires.

I got back from the Indian Clinic, and not only got a full doctor's appointment, but I also got new medicine, as well.  He's changing a couple of my medications to similar drugs, but the entire trip cost me $0.00 (except for gasoline) when without insurance it would have been at least $1000 mainly for medication.  I have to go back in early January for blood work and a follow up doctor's appointment.  This doctor is already starting to take action, as well, unlike my previous doctor.  He told me to start walking 20 minutes a day for 4 days a week and start watching my diet.  My previous doctor never made it a priority.  He mentioned it, but never "enforced" it.  This new doctor is taking action immediately.  The blood work in January will be diabetes, complete blood count, and thyroid.  I'm going to have less blood walking out of there on Thursday, 3 January 2013, but if it costs me nothing except my blood, I'll take it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 01, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
But you've already known you had to diet... you talked about eating fish sticks and all that unhealthy crap years ago.  Seeing a doctor every few months isn't going to "enforce" anything.  If  you keep eating the way you have been, eventually he'll probably stop telling you to diet because  he'll realize you're not going to.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on July 01, 2012, 10:29:38 AM
But you've already known you had to diet... you talked about eating fish sticks and all that unhealthy crap years ago.  Seeing a doctor every few months isn't going to "enforce" anything.  If  you keep eating the way you have been, eventually he'll probably stop telling you to diet because  he'll realize you're not going to.

Do you mean to imply that leaving the cheese off a hamburger doesn't make it a healthy eating option?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 01, 2012, 11:23:05 AM
Speaking of blood tests, one of the factors that caused me to take a major tack in life about 3 years back, and do a full court press to drop 60 pounds in 6 months (protein drink in the morning, cutting out all potatoes, bread and rice and chips), hiring a trainer, and hitting the gym three times a week, mainlining testosterone, and getting more "social," was when my doctor told me hey,  congratulations, your glucose count is up to 101 into the high range (120 means you have diabetes, a most horrible and terrifying and wasting disease as it slowly destroys your organs), and you are doing a splendid job of  moving towards becoming a diabetic, you fat slob you. Yes, he was very blunt about my being a fat, and I admired him for it. My major source of sugar during this full court press period against the fat, was from booze, which I continued to consume. Life is a balancing test.

My glucose count now is about 75-80.  My waist size dropped from 42 to 32. Now, my weight stays about the same, 165-170 pounds, no matter what I do it seems vis a vis food. I eat what I want, when I want. But I continue the balance of the regime.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 01, 2012, 11:37:32 AM
But you've already known you had to diet... you talked about eating fish sticks and all that unhealthy crap years ago.  Seeing a doctor every few months isn't going to "enforce" anything.  If  you keep eating the way you have been, eventually he'll probably stop telling you to diet because  he'll realize you're not going to.

Do you mean to imply that leaving the cheese off a hamburger doesn't make it a healthy eating option?

While I haven't been exercising, I haven't been going hog wild on my food selection, either.  I haven't exactly been perfect, and I have endulged on more than one occasion, and I haven't dropped any more weight since I got home from Kenya in late March, but I haven't gained, either.  I'm still at roughly 257-259.

My point was, and you guys mentioned this before, that my previous physician didn't seem too concerned about my weight and didn't make it a priority of his.  This doctor is.  He congratulated me for dropping nearly 30 pounds since November, but said it's time to keep going down.  My BMI is 41.  A BMI of 30 is considered Obese, and I'm almost 50% greater than that number.

This afternoon and evening, I'm going to Broken Arrow (SE suburb of Tulsa) with my former pastor and his wife to a Christian Patriotic and Fireworks Show.  I should be home between 01:00-02:00 Monday Morning.  It will be, of couse, dark and milder, so I'm going to take about 20 minutes and walk up and down my street before I come in and get ready for bed.  I'm going to do that Tuesday morning after work, Thursday morning, and Friday morning.  He said to start off with 4 days a week at 20-minutes a day.  He also said for a guy that doesn't exercise for the purpose of exercising to start off with brisk walking.  After 3 weeks, I will step it up to 20 minutes a day, 5 days a week.  Then, after 3 more weeks, 30 minutes a day, 4 days a week.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 01, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
Do you have any idea what your glucose count is Bushie?  My inquiry here is more about whether you even know, as opposed to what it is.

Your doctor is not giving you the kind of advice you need to effect an actionable program by the way. You know, and I know, you are not going to be walking around Oklahoma streets 5 days a week, no matter what the weather, for 30 minutes or whatever. That is just not practical. And you need to be on a treadmill in a gym, watching your heart rate, and "jogging" up at a slight incline to protect your knees. I wonder if there is some kind of buddy system, where you can hook up with another fat, and hit the gym 3 times a week, at a specified time, to keep each other on the straight and narrow. I did that with a trainer, but that's expensive, and won't work for you, I understand. It was my trainer however, that turned me on to the morning protein drink. That is all I have for breakfast ever, absent some very special occasion. I also consume a variety of pills with it, so it serves more than one purpose. :)

My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on July 01, 2012, 12:22:56 PM
My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.

You mean your BMI was 28 when you were supposed to be 'so fat and falling apart'?  28 isn't very high at all.

And 12 is dangerously underweight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 01, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
Do you have any idea what your glucose count is Bushie?  My inquiry here is more about whether you even know, as opposed to what it is.

Your doctor is not giving you the kind of advice you need to effect an actionable program by the way. You know, and I know, you are not going to be walking around Oklahoma streets 5 days a week, no matter what the weather, for 30 minutes or whatever. That is just not practical. And you need to be on a treadmill in a gym, watching your heart rate, and "jogging" up at a slight incline to protect your knees. I wonder if there is some kind of buddy system, where you can hook up with another fat, and hit the gym 3 times a week, at a specified time, to keep each other on the straight and narrow. I did that with a trainer, but that's expensive, and won't work for you, I understand. It was my trainer however, that turned me on to the morning protein drink. That is all I have for breakfast ever, absent some very special occasion. I also consume a variety of pills with it, so it serves more than one purpose. :)

My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.

No, I have no idea what the count is.  All I know when I was tested for diabetes earlier this year, it came back negative.

I disagree, I think he is giving some practical and actionable advice.  He told me to take a brisk walk for 20 minutes, enough to get my heart rate going and sweat forming and do that 4 days a week.  I will definitely be doing the walking right after I get home from work each morning.  I'll go out for 20 minutes in the 1:00 hour.  My neighborhood is a great place for walking.  I'm just going to walk up and down my street, which is only 1/4 mile long at best.  I should easily be able to go up and back down within 20-25 minutes.  I know from past experience, most of the forum is saying "I'll believe it when I see it" and for good reason, but I will do it!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on July 01, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.

You mean your BMI was 28 when you were supposed to be 'so fat and falling apart'?  28 isn't very high at all.

And 12 is dangerously underweight.

Yeah, I'd think he means a BMI of 22 or he is talking about body fat percentage.  A 12 BMI is General Wainwright territory- 6 feet around 87lbs.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 01, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.

You mean your BMI was 28 when you were supposed to be 'so fat and falling apart'?  28 isn't very high at all.

And 12 is dangerously underweight.

Oh I was thinking of body fat percentage. BMI is a different number.  Below is the formula for converting BMI into body fat percentage (or one of them):
Adult Body Fat % = (1.20 x BMI) + (0.23 x Age) - (10.8 x gender) - 5.4 (gender: 1 for male, 0 for female).

A chart about body fat percentage is here (http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/).

The formula for BMI is x/(y squared) times 703, with x pounds and y inches, so mine is (170/(73*73))*703, or (170/5329) x 703 = 22.43


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on July 01, 2012, 12:51:58 PM
Do you have any idea what your glucose count is Bushie?  My inquiry here is more about whether you even know, as opposed to what it is.

Your doctor is not giving you the kind of advice you need to effect an actionable program by the way. You know, and I know, you are not going to be walking around Oklahoma streets 5 days a week, no matter what the weather, for 30 minutes or whatever. That is just not practical. And you need to be on a treadmill in a gym, watching your heart rate, and "jogging" up at a slight incline to protect your knees. I wonder if there is some kind of buddy system, where you can hook up with another fat, and hit the gym 3 times a week, at a specified time, to keep each other on the straight and narrow. I did that with a trainer, but that's expensive, and won't work for you, I understand. It was my trainer however, that turned me on to the morning protein drink. That is all I have for breakfast ever, absent some very special occasion. I also consume a variety of pills with it, so it serves more than one purpose. :)

My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.

No, I have no idea what the count is.  All I know when I was tested for diabetes earlier this year, it came back negative.

I disagree, I think he is giving some practical and actionable advice.  He told me to take a brisk walk for 20 minutes, enough to get my heart rate going and sweat forming and do that 4 days a week.  I will definitely be doing the walking right after I get home from work each morning.  I'll go out for 20 minutes in the 1:00 hour.  My neighborhood is a great place for walking.  I'm just going to walk up and down my street, which is only 1/4 mile long at best.  I should easily be able to go up and back down within 20-25 minutes.  I know from past experience, most of the forum is saying "I'll believe it when I see it" and for good reason, but I will do it!

Did the tribal docs let you know your blood pressure?  Exercise and knocking some weight off is great for that.  I was a mess at the start of this year but Ive managed to drop around 70lbs and stopped smoking at same time.  My BP went from a very bad 150/90 to 110/73. You shouldnt just do it because the doctor told you also but be selfish and do it for yourself. You'l have better self esteem and be more productive at work and in life in general.

Good luck.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 01, 2012, 12:55:27 PM
Do you have any idea what your glucose count is Bushie?  My inquiry here is more about whether you even know, as opposed to what it is.

Your doctor is not giving you the kind of advice you need to effect an actionable program by the way. You know, and I know, you are not going to be walking around Oklahoma streets 5 days a week, no matter what the weather, for 30 minutes or whatever. That is just not practical. And you need to be on a treadmill in a gym, watching your heart rate, and "jogging" up at a slight incline to protect your knees. I wonder if there is some kind of buddy system, where you can hook up with another fat, and hit the gym 3 times a week, at a specified time, to keep each other on the straight and narrow. I did that with a trainer, but that's expensive, and won't work for you, I understand. It was my trainer however, that turned me on to the morning protein drink. That is all I have for breakfast ever, absent some very special occasion. I also consume a variety of pills with it, so it serves more than one purpose. :)

My top BMI was around 28 by the way, and things were beginning to fall apart, but then I am an old. It is around 12 now. The fat is all gone.

No, I have no idea what the count is.  All I know when I was tested for diabetes earlier this year, it came back negative.

I disagree, I think he is giving some practical and actionable advice.  He told me to take a brisk walk for 20 minutes, enough to get my heart rate going and sweat forming and do that 4 days a week.  I will definitely be doing the walking right after I get home from work each morning.  I'll go out for 20 minutes in the 1:00 hour.  My neighborhood is a great place for walking.  I'm just going to walk up and down my street, which is only 1/4 mile long at best.  I should easily be able to go up and back down within 20-25 minutes.  I know from past experience, most of the forum is saying "I'll believe it when I see it" and for good reason, but I will do it!

Did the tribal docs let you know your blood pressure?  Exercise and knocking some weight off is great for that.  I was a mess at the start of this year but Ive managed to drop around 70lbs and stopped smoking at same time.  My BP went from a very bad 150/90 to 110/73. You shouldnt just do it because the doctor told you also but be selfish and do it for yourself. You'l have better self esteem and be more productive at work and in life in general.

Good luck.

Yes, my BP was 130/80, and that was after having 4 frozen Eggo waffles for breakfast, so maybe a tad inflated.  Thanks to my BP medicine, I haven't had real high BP since my Stage 2 Hypertension scare about 18 months ago.

EDIT:  130/80 is definitely higher than it's been in quite a while, but again, it may be due to breakfast.  80 is right on target with healthy numbers while 130 is halfway between normal and Stage 1.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 01, 2012, 02:23:45 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 01, 2012, 02:30:58 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.

It was either that or starve.  This boy doesn't like to not eat...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on July 01, 2012, 02:44:50 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.

It was either that or starve.  This boy doesn't like to not eat...

That's all grocery stores in Oklahoma have?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 01, 2012, 03:01:55 PM
Bushie, avoid IHOP, McDonalds, B-K, other fast food......admit it you still eat it.  And tell you PARENTS not to cook bad sh**t for you when you eat there......I'm sure your mom would accomodate you.

And Torie, that's all cool and southern Californian, but Bushie can't afford pills, a gym, trainer or  some health food store or anything....if he just eats better and truly does some excercise let's leave it at that for now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 01, 2012, 03:09:39 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.

It was either that or starve.  This boy doesn't like to not eat...

That's all grocery stores in Oklahoma have?

It's all that was available at Mom's house at the time.  I wasn't about to starve and I didn't have time to run to the grocery store and fix a healthy breakfast.

Gramps,

Yes, I still eat that stuff, and I know I shouldn't, but since I don't know how to cook (except for Spaghetti and Eggs), and my parents and grandmother haven't come over and taught me in over a year.  We've talked about it many times, but we have never done it.  If I can at least exercise and cut down on the bad stuff, and continue to lay off the regular soda, I'll be at least headed in the right direction. (I still have majority Diet Dr. Pepper with only an occasional regular Dr. Pepper or Pepsi).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 01, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.

It was either that or starve.  This boy doesn't like to not eat...

Always an excuse. ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 01, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.

It was either that or starve.  This boy doesn't like to not eat...

That's all grocery stores in Oklahoma have?

It's all that was available at Mom's house at the time.  I wasn't about to starve and I didn't have time to run to the grocery store and fix a healthy breakfast.

Gramps,

Yes, I still eat that stuff, and I know I shouldn't, but since I don't know how to cook (except for Spaghetti and Eggs), and my parents and grandmother haven't come over and taught me in over a year.  We've talked about it many times, but we have never done it.  If I can at least exercise and cut down on the bad stuff, and continue to lay off the regular soda, I'll be at least headed in the right direction. (I still have majority Diet Dr. Pepper with only an occasional regular Dr. Pepper or Pepsi).

Ah yes, learning how to cook. I never had lessons. My mother was a horrible cook. But I got a BBQ, and managed to figure out that if you drop meat or poultry on the grill, it tends to cook. I discovered marinating beef and poultry in terriyaki sauce. I learned to read the labels on rice boxes, about how you put water in a pan in a certain amount, plus a certain amount of rice, drop in some olive oil maybe (you of course would use butter), cover and cook for a certain period of time.

As the years went by, I became more adventurous, and bought a cook book of stuff you can prepare in 30 minutes. Sure it took me twice as long, since I didn't know how to cook, but hey, there was some good stuff in there - like green bean soup.  You get some beans, some onions, some chicken broth soup, and saute the onions,, then heat the beans in the broth with the onions covering the pan, and after about 20 minutes, you blend it, and pour it into a bowl, drop a dollop of sour cream on the top, with some grated almonds, and voila, you have a protein packed dish that will cause your friends to think you are a gourmet cook, particularly if you add a bit of fresh garlic, or some lemon pepper into the mix.

I will save my catfish recipe for later - that one is even better. In meantime, shove some center cut lamb chops into the oven, covered in stone ground mustard (you might grill them first on the Barbee for a minute or two on each side, just to make them looked grilled for appearances sake). Do that, and you will have your way with any dinner guest you might be entertaining. He or she will be veritable putty in your hands. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 01, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
4 eggo waffles? Gotta cut that out.

It was either that or starve.  This boy doesn't like to not eat...

Jeff, can I make a possible suggestion to breakfasts i you have the time? Is it the healthiest thing, no.. probably not. But it can be very filling. Sometimes for breakfast, I do egg whites and turkey sausage with some salsa. It's pretty good, and pretty easy to make.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 01, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
Cooking isn't that hard. At least for me it isn't, but I am Greek so maybe it just runs in our blood.

That said, you can get by without simply eating things like eggos, regular soda, frozen processed food etc. you'd be shocked at how much sodium things like that have in them, and if you simply cut that out, you'd see a tremendous difference. You said you had hypertension which isn't good for your age, but it is caused by high levels of sodium. You have to stop it or you won't live long. I know you won't but I feel like I have you warn you all the same.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 01, 2012, 09:20:34 PM
Jesus F... Christos...

Just experiment... do you know how to boil water? that's a good start - that means you can steam and poach...

I wasn't taught how to cook, I just started to do it when I was about 8 by just watching then I did simple things... now I love it and make really complex stuff.

If you want some healthy and simple recipes to try, just PM me, or ask here.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on July 01, 2012, 11:45:29 PM
Bushie, Internet can teach you how to cook.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on July 01, 2012, 11:54:47 PM
If you can bring water in two pots to a boil (one for your choice of pasta, rice, or a potato; one for some 99 cent frozen veggie pack), preheat an oven to 375 degrees (for fresh chicken, beef, fish, whatever choice), and shake a seasoning shaker for five seconds, you can cook a complete square meal.  It's not gourmet, but neither is Wendy's.

Thanks for this thread, Bushie.  I hate fast food for lunch and dinner today, but these posts have reminded me how easy it is to cook for myself.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 02, 2012, 02:09:27 AM
I am home from Northeastern Oklahoma.  First off, thanks for all the cooking tips guys.  I guess it is pretty simple, I just have to start doing it.  It was a really good concert and fireworks display last evening, but the best part was spending time with my former pastor and his family.  I walked quite a bit last evening between the van and the concert venue.  It was a 5 minute walk one way and we made 2 complete laps (total of 20 minutes) carrying a big ice chest full of ice and bottled water.  So, because of that, I am going to defer my early morning walk until tomorrow morning (Tuesday morning).  I must have had about 5 glasses of water while I was there (2 bottles) plus had 2 glasses of instant iced tea mixed with sugar-free lemonade, oranges, lemons, and limes.  So, if you count the tea as water, I had 7 glasses of water.  Not bad, considering the recommended daily amount is between 6 and 8 glasses.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on July 02, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
You know breakfast and lunch are pretty easy to have without cooking at all.  You can have a bowl of cereal for breakfast, or a bagel, or banana, or some other sliced fruit without much of any preparation. Oatmeal is also really easy; you just pour it into a bowl, add water, and stick it in the microwave.

I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch almost every day, which also takes almost no preparation time and while it isn't an amazingly healthy choice is better than almost every other lunch mentioned here. You could put something else in the sandwich, maybe canned tuna or something, or make a salad. Those tend to work pretty well for people who pack lunches.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 02, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Bushie, avoid IHOP, McDonalds, B-K, other fast food......admit it you still eat it.  And tell you PARENTS not to cook bad sh**t for you when you eat there......I'm sure your mom would accomodate you.

And Torie, that's all cool and southern Californian, but Bushie can't afford pills, a gym, trainer or  some health food store or anything....if he just eats better and truly does some excercise let's leave it at that for now.

Bushie could  afford a gym and a protein drink. I understand about the trainer expense, which is why I suggested trying to find a fellow fat with whom to set up dates. Keeping appointments is a way to make sure you actually do drag your butt to the gym, even if you would rather do something else.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 02, 2012, 12:41:43 PM
I dunno torie. Protein costs like $50 for about a months worth of shakes. I would worry about Bushie first getting his diet in check before I worry about him taking supplements. I don't think the guy eats vegetables at all, at least vegetables that haven't been fried/processed/contain bread/cheese.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 02, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I dunno torie. Protein costs like $50 for about a months worth of shakes. I would worry about Bushie first getting his diet in check before I worry about him taking supplements. I don't think the guy eats vegetables at all, at least vegetables that haven't been fried/processed/contain bread/cheese.

$50/30 equals $1.66 per breakfast. Add to that the cost of a cup of orange juice as mix. In my experience, that is the singe most effective way to lose weight putting aside being physically active, and in particular jogging.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 02, 2012, 01:52:46 PM
My point was, and you guys mentioned this before, that my previous physician didn't seem too concerned about my weight and didn't make it a priority of his.  This doctor is.  He congratulated me for dropping nearly 30 pounds since November, but said it's time to keep going down.  My BMI is 41.  A BMI of 30 is considered Obese, and I'm almost 50% greater than that number.

This doctor is new... of course he's concerned.  Are you telling me that your old doctor never told you to lose weight?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 02, 2012, 01:56:40 PM
I dunno torie. Protein costs like $50 for about a months worth of shakes. I would worry about Bushie first getting his diet in check before I worry about him taking supplements. I don't think the guy eats vegetables at all, at least vegetables that haven't been fried/processed/contain bread/cheese.

$50/30 equals $1.66 per breakfast. Add to that the cost of a cup of orange juice as mix. In my experience, that is the singe most effective way to lose weight putting aside being physically active, and in particular jogging.

Yeah... but Bushie still took a pretty big pay cut going to Xerox now. I'm sure $50-$80 bucks is gonna be pretty hard to spend on stuff like this. Is it needed, of course. But when you have other bills that come first, this is totally back burner stuff.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 02, 2012, 01:59:53 PM
I dunno torie. Protein costs like $50 for about a months worth of shakes. I would worry about Bushie first getting his diet in check before I worry about him taking supplements. I don't think the guy eats vegetables at all, at least vegetables that haven't been fried/processed/contain bread/cheese.

$50/30 equals $1.66 per breakfast. Add to that the cost of a cup of orange juice as mix. In my experience, that is the singe most effective way to lose weight putting aside being physically active, and in particular jogging.

But does he have that kind of disposable income? He will have to factor in the cost of buying fresh food instead of the cheaper frozen/fast food he is accustomed to, which will also add up. I am trying to go one step at a time with him, knowing in my heart he will do none of what we suggest because it's too hard to do, and what he is eating now tastes better to him.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 02, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
My point was, and you guys mentioned this before, that my previous physician didn't seem too concerned about my weight and didn't make it a priority of his.  This doctor is.  He congratulated me for dropping nearly 30 pounds since November, but said it's time to keep going down.  My BMI is 41.  A BMI of 30 is considered Obese, and I'm almost 50% greater than that number.

This doctor is new... of course he's concerned.  Are you telling me that your old doctor never told you to lose weight?

Right. My grandmother was like that, and she started claiming later in life that her doctor never told her to exercise so it was okay that she rarely did. She was never obese though, and lived into her 80s, so she wasn't unhealthy by any means, but doctors stop harping on things after a certain point.

We have been encouraging Bushie to lose weight now for a long time and he continues to make up excuses to justify not doing so (it's a cheat weekend, it's a holiday, i didn't have anything in the house, that's all my parents made, I can't cook, etc). I'm sure he did the same thing to his last doctor so he just stopped hounding him knowing he simply wouldn't do it.

The point is, none of us want him to be in bad shape, and right now he has a lot of health problems for someone who just turned 30.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 02, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
I dunno torie. Protein costs like $50 for about a months worth of shakes. I would worry about Bushie first getting his diet in check before I worry about him taking supplements. I don't think the guy eats vegetables at all, at least vegetables that haven't been fried/processed/contain bread/cheese.

$50/30 equals $1.66 per breakfast. Add to that the cost of a cup of orange juice as mix. In my experience, that is the singe most effective way to lose weight putting aside being physically active, and in particular jogging.

But does he have that kind of disposable income? He will have to factor in the cost of buying fresh food instead of the cheaper frozen/fast food he is accustomed to, which will also add up. I am trying to go one step at a time with him, knowing in my heart he will do none of what we suggest because it's too hard to do, and what he is eating now tastes better to him.

$2.00 for breakfast, and $20 a month for a cheap gym?  I am not talking about Equinox here. :)

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You can see the array of treadmills I use, the rowing machines, and the assisted chin up and dips device. Hey, I can finally do a chin up without assistance, a new first for the Torie man. :)  Service personnel in blue shirts wander around handing your fresh towels, and offering to spot you to do bench presses or whatever. The trainers have black shirts. That rack machine near the window under the light is a favorite venue for my trainers to torture me. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on July 02, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
I think Bush must have a glandular condition.  I eat whatever I like and never exercise and my 'BMI' is about 26.

Bush you should try moving to Thailand.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 02, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
Bush you should try moving to Thailand.

Stop posting spoilers, opebo!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 02, 2012, 07:48:43 PM
I dunno torie. Protein costs like $50 for about a months worth of shakes. I would worry about Bushie first getting his diet in check before I worry about him taking supplements. I don't think the guy eats vegetables at all, at least vegetables that haven't been fried/processed/contain bread/cheese.

$50/30 equals $1.66 per breakfast. Add to that the cost of a cup of orange juice as mix. In my experience, that is the singe most effective way to lose weight putting aside being physically active, and in particular jogging.

But does he have that kind of disposable income? He will have to factor in the cost of buying fresh food instead of the cheaper frozen/fast food he is accustomed to, which will also add up. I am trying to go one step at a time with him, knowing in my heart he will do none of what we suggest because it's too hard to do, and what he is eating now tastes better to him.

$2.00 for breakfast, and $20 a month for a cheap gym?  I am not talking about Equinox here. :)

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You can see the array of treadmills I use, the rowing machines, and the assisted chin up and dips device. Hey, I can finally do a chin up without assistance, a new first for the Torie man. :)  Service personnel in blue shirts wander around handing your fresh towels, and offering to spot you to do bench presses or whatever. The trainers have black shirts. That rack machine near the window under the light is a favorite venue for my trainers to torture me. :P

That's a deal. My gym runs $45 a month at the medical university, and that is with the student discount for law students! I shouldn't scold Bushie too much though given I've slacked off when it comes to working out this summer. My workout partner is working in NY till next month and it's tough to motivate myself to go at it alone. That's why Bushie needs a friend to take him along and not allow him to make excuses for himself.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 03, 2012, 01:12:38 AM
My point was, and you guys mentioned this before, that my previous physician didn't seem too concerned about my weight and didn't make it a priority of his.  This doctor is.  He congratulated me for dropping nearly 30 pounds since November, but said it's time to keep going down.  My BMI is 41.  A BMI of 30 is considered Obese, and I'm almost 50% greater than that number.

This doctor is new... of course he's concerned.  Are you telling me that your old doctor never told you to lose weight?

Right. My grandmother was like that, and she started claiming later in life that her doctor never told her to exercise so it was okay that she rarely did. She was never obese though, and lived into her 80s, so she wasn't unhealthy by any means, but doctors stop harping on things after a certain point.

We have been encouraging Bushie to lose weight now for a long time and he continues to make up excuses to justify not doing so (it's a cheat weekend, it's a holiday, i didn't have anything in the house, that's all my parents made, I can't cook, etc). I'm sure he did the same thing to his last doctor so he just stopped hounding him knowing he simply wouldn't do it.

The point is, none of us want him to be in bad shape, and right now he has a lot of health problems for someone who just turned 30.

My previous doctor was concerned, but never made it a big issue.  He took the attitude of "you keep hitting yourself? more power to you"  which, I understand where he came from, but as a doctor you should have the attitude "you keep hitting yourself? stop it, and here's how we're going to stop it."  I had the previous doctor for 16 years since 1996, and I've followed him around the Oklahoma City Metro, and I thought about finding a new one, but I enjoyed his demeanor.  I'll be honest, the only thing that got me to leave him now was the dangling carrot of free health care.

As far as my health is concerned, sure it could be better, but I have had the diabetes AC1 test twice and both times they have come back negative and both of them at 30 lbs heavier than where i'm at now.  My blood pressure has been near normal or just a hair above normal for the past 18 months thanks to the medicine and losing 30 pounds.  Since that Stage 2 Hypertension scare in January 2011, my blood pressure has come back down to consistently well below Stage 1 criteria.  There have been a couple times when it has gone lower than normal getting somewhat close to Stage 1 on the Low Blood Pressure side.  My new doctor is just going to perform this blood work in 6 months because I am a new patient and he wants to know where to start from.  He is a little more concerned about the diabetes potential simply because I have had 2 family members with diabetes and as a pretty high Native American ratio, I have a higher chance of diabetes.  I am 1/32, which may not sound like a lot, but he said a lot of the patients he sees are 1/128, 1/256 or even lower.  There are some that are more than 1/32, like 1/16, 1/8, but most of them are 1/64 or lower.  I'm only 5 generations removed from full blood Potawatomi and Native Americans, of any tribe, have a higher risk of Type II Diabetes


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 03, 2012, 01:53:11 AM
My guess is that when you had your doctor of 16 years, for the first 2-3 years, he told you to diet.  After you didn't for the first 2-3 years, he stopped  telling you, because you didn't listen.

And I'll predict the same thing with this new doctor.  He'll tell you to diet, and you won't listen.

Honestly, Jeff, if it takes a DOCTOR to tell you to diet, when you're morbidly obese, there's something wrong with you.  You yourself have told us you're 50% past the obese BMI... why does it take a doctor to convince you to eat healthier?  You should know that on your own.  It's simple math.  But you haven't listened before, and you probably won't now.  So in 2 years, if you're still obese, the Indian doctor probably won't be reminding you to diet.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 03, 2012, 01:59:33 AM
he said a lot of the patients he sees are 1/128, 1/256 or even lower.  There are some that are more than 1/32, like 1/16, 1/8, but most of them are 1/64 or lower.

wtf


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on July 03, 2012, 02:22:49 AM
My great-great-great-grandfather was from England.  Therefore, I demand free healthcare through the National Health Service.  I don't care if they're short on resources and still need to serve the people who actually pay into it; it's my God-given birthright.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 03, 2012, 02:50:51 AM
My guess is that when you had your doctor of 16 years, for the first 2-3 years, he told you to diet.  After you didn't for the first 2-3 years, he stopped  telling you, because you didn't listen.

And I'll predict the same thing with this new doctor.  He'll tell you to diet, and you won't listen.

Honestly, Jeff, if it takes a DOCTOR to tell you to diet, when you're morbidly obese, there's something wrong with you.  You yourself have told us you're 50% past the obese BMI... why does it take a doctor to convince you to eat healthier?  You should know that on your own.  It's simple math.  But you haven't listened before, and you probably won't now.  So in 2 years, if you're still obese, the Indian doctor probably won't be reminding you to diet.

I wasnt obese or even overweight in high school. I was just heavy.  He didnt see me much in college, because I was three hours away and was just starting to gain weight.

The thing Im lacking right now is motivation, which is a very good point that Duke brought up. I do havea support group, but I dont have the resources to go to a gym.  The biggest motivation I have, and I'm appalled I havent taken advantage of this reason, is my two children in Africa.

However, I have a new resolve now that its July. Im going to set my alarm earlier today and go for a 20 minute walk before it gets too hot. Wednesday, I am going to swim for three hours from 11-2. Thursday, I will walk more and again Friday. Ill mow Saturday for an hour.  Ive got a plan. Also, I am going to the grocery store on Wednesday to get some healthier food such as produce, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk, whole grain cereal, etc. I weigh 258 right now. I want to be sniffing 250 by 1 August and then 240 by 1 September.  Ultimately, I want to be down to 215 by Thanksgiving.

I am using you guys as my "support group". So, I am posting my plans so you can keep me accountable.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 03, 2012, 06:17:05 AM


I am using you guys as my "support group". So, I am posting my plans so you can keep me accountable.

Ha! You know we're good at accountability!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: afleitch on July 03, 2012, 06:22:15 AM
Service personnel in blue shirts wander around handing your fresh towels, and offering to spot you to do bench presses or whatever.

Uhhh....can I come to your gym?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on July 03, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
Bush you should try moving to Thailand.

Stop posting spoilers, opebo!

You mean you think he will end up in Thailand? 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 03, 2012, 09:42:47 AM
Bush you should try moving to Thailand.

Stop posting spoilers, opebo!

You mean you think he will end up in Thailand? 

Or at least claiming he will be moving there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 03, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Service personnel in blue shirts wander around handing your fresh towels, and offering to spot you to do bench presses or whatever.

Uhhh....can I come to your gym?

Sure.  I will arrange for you to get a week's guest pass. And the weather is Socal lately has been simply marvelous near the beach. Come on down!  :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Oakvale on July 03, 2012, 11:50:06 AM
My guess is that when you had your doctor of 16 years, for the first 2-3 years, he told you to diet.  After you didn't for the first 2-3 years, he stopped  telling you, because you didn't listen.

And I'll predict the same thing with this new doctor.  He'll tell you to diet, and you won't listen.

Honestly, Jeff, if it takes a DOCTOR to tell you to diet, when you're morbidly obese, there's something wrong with you.  You yourself have told us you're 50% past the obese BMI... why does it take a doctor to convince you to eat healthier?  You should know that on your own.  It's simple math.  But you haven't listened before, and you probably won't now.  So in 2 years, if you're still obese, the Indian doctor probably won't be reminding you to diet.

I wasnt obese or even overweight in high school. I was just heavy.  He didnt see me much in college, because I was three hours away and was just starting to gain weight.

The thing Im lacking right now is motivation, which is a very good point that Duke brought up. I do havea support group, but I dont have the resources to go to a gym.  The biggest motivation I have, and I'm appalled I havent taken advantage of this reason, is my two children in Africa.

However, I have a new resolve now that its July. Im going to set my alarm earlier today and go for a 20 minute walk before it gets too hot. Wednesday, I am going to swim for three hours from 11-2. Thursday, I will walk more and again Friday. Ill mow Saturday for an hour.  Ive got a plan. Also, I am going to the grocery store on Wednesday to get some healthier food such as produce, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk, whole grain cereal, etc. I weigh 258 right now. I want to be sniffing 250 by 1 August and then 240 by 1 September.  Ultimately, I want to be down to 215 by Thanksgiving.

I am using you guys as my "support group". So, I am posting my plans so you can keep me accountable.

I recently lost the roughly eight pounds I gained after quitting smoking, so here's some tips.

I know there's kind of a difference in scale, but the same principles apply. :P (I also went from ~170 to ~150 - I'm 5'8" (AND A HALF!) and 146 lbs as of this morning - a few years ago and have hovered around there since. Again, not as big a loss as you'd be looking for but it feels a lot better not lugging around twenty pounds of fat with me, and I was - and am - a lot happier, too.)

The good news is if you're 260 pounds you're probably eating a ridiculous amount of crap just to maintain that weight, so just by eating somewhat sanely you're going to drop the pounds fairly quickly.

BTW, diet is pretty much everything when it comes to weight loss, exercise is important to stay healthy and fit, sure, but if you'd be better off focusing on improving what you put in your face. The worry here is that you could get burned out on exercising constantly, miss a few days, and then give up. This is pretty common AFAIK.

Eat vegetables and lean meats. Don't eat white bread or a bucket of fried chicken or whatever. Some people say fruit is bad 'cause it's basically sugar, but it's probably better than a donut. I don't know if  you drink, but if you do go for spirits instead of beer, since as we all know beer is liquid bread.

If you're seriously obese it might be worth giving low-carb or something a try. I don't have any experience with those diets, but some people swear by them.

By the way, the most important thing to do is to drink water. Drink stupid amounts of water.

You're still young, so time's on your side, but this is something you need to address, Bushie. If someone's overweight but in good health and happy, I don't think that they should feel a need to change just because society says so, but when your weight starts affecting either your health or happiness you have to change. Even if you don't have any major problems now, you will down the road. At the risk of being cheesy, this is an investment in your future.

If I can help you out feel free to ask or PM me. Again, I don't have some kind of ridiculous transformation story or anything, but I dropped twenty pounds and went from vaguely fat and crappy looking to slim and, well, uh, still crappy looking but that's cause I post on the Atlas and never get sunlight. ;):P

EDIT: If all else fails, just stick to this mantra -

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To lose weight, add a zero to your weight. Eat that many calories per day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 04, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
You don't need a gym to lose weight.  Diet is the main thing.  Just start eating less and eating healthier.  Eat food with less calories - it still fills you up, but you burn off weight.  Go jogging and/or walking - it's good exercise and you don't need a gym membership.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 04, 2012, 12:41:05 AM
And the most important advice of all: drink whiskey over beer. It'll go far in helping you burn off those excess calories!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on July 04, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
And the most important advice of all: drink whiskey over beer. It'll go far in helping you burn off those excess calories!

Amen

Really, this is something I and many others on the forum are passionate about. We could give you all kinds of advice until our fingers start to bleed. The only real thing that makes a difference is that passion. If you really want it, you'll find what works for you and your lifestyle. You're gonna have to make concessions, but if you're serious you can formulate a new diet, exercise regiment, and attitude about your health. The important thing is to be flexible and not stick adamantly to rules. That's just a setup for failure. Fool around with different tactics and try new things constantly. Getting healthy doesn't mean starving yourself and working your body to the breaking point every day. It's about changing your life permanently to make your tastes and activities work for you.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on July 04, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
off topic:  bushie is the 'hobby lobby' a christian establishment?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 04, 2012, 06:54:43 PM
off topic:  bushie is the 'hobby lobby' a christian establishment?

Yes.  It is even closed on Sundays to allow employees time for family and worship.  It says that on the door of each store.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 04, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
off topic:  bushie is the 'hobby lobby' a christian establishment?

Every December they take out a full page ad in the local paper (I presume in many papers; it'd be really weird if it were only in Memphis) reminding people to remember the reason for the season. I'm not at all an arts and crafts kind of person, but if I were, I would definately go to Michael's. I don't need retailers telling me what religion to be.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 04, 2012, 10:28:44 PM
off topic:  bushie is the 'hobby lobby' a christian establishment?

Every December they take out a full page ad in the local paper (I presume in many papers; it'd be really weird if it were only in Memphis) reminding people to remember the reason for the season. I'm not at all an arts and crafts kind of person, but if I were, I would definately go to Michael's. I don't need retailers telling me what religion to be.

That happens in OKC, too.  To me, it's kind of refreshing to see companies standing up for what is right.  They are just expressing their beliefs as a Company, not shoving it down anybody's throats.  Because, contrary to popular opinion, just telling some about Christ is not the same thing as shoving it down their throats.  Not saying that's what you were getting out, but I still had to mention it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 04, 2012, 10:30:56 PM
It is 22:30 Wednesday Night.  In 90 minutes, I will officially kick off the 2012 Christmas Season by watching the Muppet Christmas Carol.  That's the best way to watch The Christmas Carol.  Patrick Stewart doesn't do it right because he doesn't make us laugh throughout the movie.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 04, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
Christmas 2012 is here!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on July 05, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
It is 22:30 Wednesday Night.  In 90 minutes, I will officially kick off the 2012 Christmas Season by watching the Muppet Christmas Carol.  That's the best way to watch The Christmas Carol.  Patrick Stewart doesn't do it right because he doesn't make us laugh throughout the movie.

wtf?

it is bad enough that you are 'kicking off' the christmas season on july 4.  it is even worse that you are watching the muppets.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 05, 2012, 09:58:18 AM
Stop being a Scrooge, Walter.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 05, 2012, 11:44:56 AM
It is 22:30 Wednesday Night.  In 90 minutes, I will officially kick off the 2012 Christmas Season by watching the Muppet Christmas Carol.  That's the best way to watch The Christmas Carol.  Patrick Stewart doesn't do it right because he doesn't make us laugh throughout the movie.

wtf?

it is bad enough that you are 'kicking off' the christmas season on july 4.  it is even worse that you are watching the muppets.

Hey, now, the Muppets are an American Institution.  There is nothing wrong with them other than they might be too clean.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 06, 2012, 01:14:13 PM
Today is my final day of classroom training and subsequently, my final 15:30-00:30 shift.  Next week, I will be working 14:15-23:15 for "Nesting" which is essentially phone training.  I will begin my full schedule on Sunday, 15 July 2012.  I submitted by preferences for the shift yesterday, and will find out the results either today or Monday.  This shift will remain in place through the 3rd quarter (through September).

The only way the shift will change again before the end of the 3rd quarter is if i get promoted.  My manager is already looking at my class for new supervisors, training, quality analysts, etc.  They will probably be promoting some of us before the end of July.  If I get promoted, I will no longer be taking calls.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on July 08, 2012, 03:50:37 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 08, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!

Well, technically, I can't until I get past my 90 days which will be 18 September, so I'm good there, not that I planned on it anyway!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on July 08, 2012, 06:21:55 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!

Well, technically, I can't until I get past my 90 days which will be 18 September, so I'm good there, not that I planned on it anyway!

So what happens if people really get sick during the first 90 days?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 08, 2012, 06:27:08 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!

Well, technically, I can't until I get past my 90 days which will be 18 September, so I'm good there, not that I planned on it anyway!

So what happens if people really get sick during the first 90 days?

They make exceptions.  They're humans, too, and they understand life happens and there is nothing you can do about it sometimes.  As a general rule you're supposed to minimize sick days as much as possible within the first 90 days and definitely take no vacation days in that time span, unless you have already cleared it with Personnel and with your Manager.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 10, 2012, 03:35:51 PM
Torie, the poor guy goes to an effing Indian reservation to see the Medicine Man....knock off this talk of shakes and gyms.

Push away from the table.......all will be well.  And avoid your parents food and all fast food and IHOP


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on July 10, 2012, 03:46:22 PM
It is 22:30 Wednesday Night.  In 90 minutes, I will officially kick off the 2012 Christmas Season by watching the Muppet Christmas Carol.  That's the best way to watch The Christmas Carol.  Patrick Stewart doesn't do it right because he doesn't make us laugh throughout the movie.

"Us"?  Please tell me you don't subject another human being to this ludicrous routine.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 10, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!

Well, technically, I can't until I get past my 90 days which will be 18 September, so I'm good there, not that I planned on it anyway!

So what happens if people really get sick during the first 90 days?
Employers have no obligation to give time off for minor illnesses or for new employees. Employees are only entitled to (unpaid) time off if
1. The company has 50 or more employees within a 75 mile radius of the worksite.
AND
2. The employee has worked there for 12 months and has worked at least 1250 hours.
AND
3. The employee is seriously ill or needs the time to care for an immediate family member who is seriously ill or a new baby.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on July 10, 2012, 04:05:50 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!

Well, technically, I can't until I get past my 90 days which will be 18 September, so I'm good there, not that I planned on it anyway!

So what happens if people really get sick during the first 90 days?
Employers have no obligation to give time off for minor illnesses or for new employees. Employees are only entitled to (unpaid) time off if
1. The company has 50 or more employees within a 75 mile radius of the worksite.
AND
2. The employee has worked there for 12 months and has worked at least 1250 hours.
AND
3. The employee is seriously ill or needs the time to care for an immediate family member who is seriously ill or a new baby.

Why are things so f**ked up in the US....? I'm sorry....but wow.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on July 10, 2012, 04:40:02 PM
Why are things so f**ked up in the US....? I'm sorry....but wow.

The people accept to be slaves, Franzl.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 10, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
Usually, new employees have to be at a company 6 months before they can start taking paid sick time.  Before that, it's unpaid, and usually frowned upon if you take any time off within the first 90 days of employment. Of course, if you're really sick, than your sick and you don't go in.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on July 10, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
Usually, new employees have to be at a company 6 months before they can start taking paid sick time.  Before that, it's unpaid, and usually frowned upon if you take any time off within the first 90 days of employment. Of course, if you're really sick, than your sick and you don't go in.

I'm used to unlimited PAID "sick time" based on it being determined medically necessary by a doctor. Whether you've worked somewhere for 30 days or 1 year, doesn't really affect whether you're too sick to work or not...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 10, 2012, 05:32:44 PM
Usually, new employees have to be at a company 6 months before they can start taking paid sick time.  Before that, it's unpaid, and usually frowned upon if you take any time off within the first 90 days of employment. Of course, if you're really sick, than your sick and you don't go in.

I'm used to unlimited PAID "sick time" based on it being determined medically necessary by a doctor. Whether you've worked somewhere for 30 days or 1 year, doesn't really affect whether you're too sick to work or not...
Wouldn't work here. Poors don't frequently see doctors.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Oakvale on July 10, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
do not take a sick day anytime soon!

Well, technically, I can't until I get past my 90 days which will be 18 September, so I'm good there, not that I planned on it anyway!

So what happens if people really get sick during the first 90 days?
Employers have no obligation to give time off for minor illnesses or for new employees. Employees are only entitled to (unpaid) time off if
1. The company has 50 or more employees within a 75 mile radius of the worksite.
AND
2. The employee has worked there for 12 months and has worked at least 1250 hours.
AND
3. The employee is seriously ill or needs the time to care for an immediate family member who is seriously ill or a new baby.

Why are things so f**ked up in the US....? I'm sorry....but wow.

Yeah, that threw me. That's very Ayn Rand.

Also, everyone, I'm new to this thread... why is Bushie "beginning the Christmas season" when it's the middle of July? ???


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 10, 2012, 08:56:12 PM
Ban Oakvale for asking one of the dumbest and most insulting questions ever.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 10, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
Ban Oakvale for not reading this entire thread. It should be a requirement now, not a choice.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Oakvale on July 10, 2012, 10:13:15 PM
I will accept my approaching permaban with good grace and humility.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 10, 2012, 11:52:38 PM
Ban Oakvale for not reading this entire thread. It should be a requirement now, not a choice.

It's only 1,654 posts long, shouldn't take more than 5 hours. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 10, 2012, 11:58:07 PM
I have finished two days on the phones and my confidence is growing by leaps and bounds already!  Of course, having worked in a call center environment for 2 years eliminates a lot of the curveballs that are thrown to newbie call center reps.

I also got my new work schedule that will begin this Sunday, 15 July 2012 - I will be working 13:15-22:15 Saturday-Wednesday with Thursday and Friday off.  This is a fantastic shift and the shift I asked for because it still allows me to go to church on Sunday morning, as long as I leave promptly when the service is over at noon.  Second, it allows me to go to our bi-weekly men's meeting every other Thursday evenings and our weekly Bible Study on Friday evenings.  The only thing I lose is Wednesday Evening Worship.  No biggie there.  I will lose football Saturdays and Sundays, but I signed up for NFL Rewind on NFL.com and it will automatically renew on 1 August and allow me to rewatch every game, or the games that interest me most.  I'll just have to put the college football games on DVR.  The schedule will likely change again in September or October or if I'm promoted before then.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 11, 2012, 12:33:58 AM
I will accept my approaching permaban with good grace and humility.

You should. This thread isn't just any thread on this forum. It is a legend. Countless forumites have told their families about BushKE over dinner and during cocktail parties, only to be met with praise and goodwill for their courage to spread The Good Word. By failing to read this entire thread, you are doing a disservice to yourself and to all of us who have read it. While it may not be a big deal to you right now, it will be when you're old and gray, trying to conjure up stories to tell your grandkids who already think you're too friendly and boring. You might not believe me now, but do yourself and your future offspring a favor and spend the next few hours reading this thread. You will thank me and everyone else here a million times in the future.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on July 11, 2012, 06:06:12 AM
But this thread is only a fraction of the story.  Before this, there were several other updates, an "I have a new job" thread, a BushOK blog, etc.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 11, 2012, 09:17:37 AM
There have been times that I go back and re-read the Update thread and Have a new job thread. It's a lot of fun.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 11, 2012, 11:20:02 AM
But this thread is only a fraction of the story.  Before this, there were several other updates, an "I have a new job" thread, a BushOK blog, etc.


That is true, there are at least 3 other mega-threads before preceding this one.  One just has to do a little digging to find them!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 11, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
Is it weird that I have them all saved?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 11, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
No. I have them all saved as well. Any good American would.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on July 11, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
Did he get another woman yet?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 11, 2012, 07:23:50 PM
No. I think if he gets a woman it will make me as happy as finding another woman of my own. It will give just as many gifts.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 11, 2012, 08:45:08 PM
He is saving himself for a nice Kenyan girl.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 11, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
He is saving himself for a nice Kenyan girl.

He is now an Indian chief so his interests are a little closer to home...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 12, 2012, 10:22:12 AM
He is saving himself for a nice Kenyan girl.

He is now an Indian chief so his interests are a little closer to home...

Ah yes! I forgot about this. Could get more intersting now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 12, 2012, 10:10:29 PM
Bushie, back to the exercise thing..

If you can't afford a gym, one thing you can simply due is get a set of dumbbells for $20 or so and work out with that.

Also as was mentioned jogging and even walking is extremely good.  Its something I have started to take up a bit more myself.  Last few weeks I have gone into Manhattan once a week or so simply to enjoy the day and walk around.

Last Sunday I walked ll the way from Penn Station (34th and 7th) to the North Meadow in Central Park (near 5th and 98th) and back, and up and down some parts of 5th and 7th avenue several times as well as around Central Park several times.  I easily walked 10 miles with temps in the low to mid 90's and it actually felt great. 

Now I don't expect you to do something like that, but even walking round much smaller distances are good for you.  Granted walking around OKC s never gong to compare to Manhattan, but you can likely find somewhere, and if you don't want to deal with the head, something indoors.  I work real close to a large mall, and often get lunch in the mall.  After I et since I still have some time I will walk around for a bit. 

Something like that is also a good replacement if you don't want to go jogging in the heat, but want to get some exercise in and stay cool, which is something I have done also.  A real hot day, might not feel like jogging so will just walk around for a bit after work.



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 13, 2012, 03:04:20 AM
Good Friday Morning! Thursday evening at work, I received a HUGE promise from my employer based on what I have dealt with for the past two years. They promised me that neither Xerox nor Apple will let me go unless my attendance goes down the toilet. Even if I perform terribly, they have promised to do everything they can to coach me in the right direction. I have NEVER received that promise from ANY employer in the 13 years I've been in the work force (starting from my first job at KFC in May 1999). I don't know what to make of it, yet. I really do enjoy what I do. It doesn't pay much, but it pays in other ways besides monetary. I have one more day of nesting this evening and then I will get Saturday off before I go into work on Sunday at 1:15 pm. They are holding themselves to a very high standard and I'm going to take them at their word, because that's all I can do. I've switched between jobs way too much and now that I'm 9 months from 31 years old, I need to settle down in one spot and ride it out! I'm getting close to mid-life years and I cannot afford to keep hopping from job to job. I'm going to stay put. They have given me a promise that they will not let me go as long as I go to work everyday. I will return the favor with a promise of my own that I will not leave them.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 13, 2012, 07:37:22 AM
My friend, are you sure you didn't pass your "mid life years" about five years ago?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 13, 2012, 08:58:10 AM
Good Friday Morning! Thursday evening at work, I received a HUGE promise from my employer based on what I have dealt with for the past two years. They promised me that neither Xerox nor Apple will let me go unless my attendance goes down the toilet. Even if I perform terribly, they have promised to do everything they can to coach me in the right direction. I have NEVER received that promise from ANY employer in the 13 years I've been in the work force (starting from my first job at KFC in May 1999). I don't know what to make of it, yet. I really do enjoy what I do. It doesn't pay much, but it pays in other ways besides monetary. I have one more day of nesting this evening and then I will get Saturday off before I go into work on Sunday at 1:15 pm. They are holding themselves to a very high standard and I'm going to take them at their word, because that's all I can do. I've switched between jobs way too much and now that I'm 9 months from 31 years old, I need to settle down in one spot and ride it out! I'm getting close to mid-life years and I cannot afford to keep hopping from job to job. I'm going to stay put. They have given me a promise that they will not let me go as long as I go to work everyday. I will return the favor with a promise of my own that I will not leave them.

As always, did you get this promise in writing? Because If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 13, 2012, 11:34:34 AM
My friend, are you sure you didn't pass your "mid life years" about five years ago?

That's true, no one knows exactly when their mid-life years are, but I'm basing it on the life expectancy which is ~80 years.  To me, based on 80 year life expectancy, the mid-life years are from 35-45.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: © tweed on July 13, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
My friend, are you sure you didn't pass your "mid life years" about five years ago?

That's true, no one knows exactly when their mid-life years are, but I'm basing it on the life expectancy which is ~80 years.  To me, based on 80 year life expectancy, the mid-life years are from 35-45.

yeah but Kenya life expectancy is probably half that (and Oklahoma 2/3 of it).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 13, 2012, 11:52:27 AM
My friend, are you sure you didn't pass your "mid life years" about five years ago?

That's true, no one knows exactly when their mid-life years are, but I'm basing it on the life expectancy which is ~80 years.  To me, based on 80 year life expectancy, the mid-life years are from 35-45.

yeah but Kenya life expectancy is probably half that (and Oklahoma 2/3 of it).

Its true, Kenya's life expetancy is roughly 50-55.  Oklahoma is >75.

The reason people die so young in Kenya, of course, is due to HIV/AIDs and Malaria.

When I go down there, having had a little bit of experience four months ago, I will take proper precautions.  I fully realize that despite all the precautions I can take, I could still die younger than I would if I lived in America the rest of my life.  Since I am a believer in Christ, I don't have to worry about what happens when I pass from this life.  The Bible says that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

I have been starting to research employment and housing in both Kisumu and Nairobi and the best way to get between the two cities, whether by air, train, bus, or car.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 13, 2012, 11:59:58 AM
No glove, no love, even though wrapping that thing sucks so bad, you have no idea. So when you're in the moment with your Kenyan honey, don't forget my advice if you want to live longer than 50 years.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 13, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
I just received a MAJOR blessing.  My move to Kenya may have just gotten a lot easier!  One of my very good friends has offered to help pay for the big move in 2 1/2 years.  In the medium term, everybody knows my 2013 trip to Kenya is paid for, but my 2014 "testing" period of Kenya may be paid for within the next several months!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on July 13, 2012, 12:24:39 PM
Get these all in writing.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 13, 2012, 12:29:34 PM
One of my brothers has taken several mission trips to Kenya and loved it. Hopefully you will enjoy it as well! :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 13, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
One of my brothers has taken several mission trips to Kenya and loved it. Hopefully you will enjoy it as well! :)

I really enjoyed it this past March and I'm itching to go back this coming March!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on July 13, 2012, 01:22:30 PM
Your lord truly loves you, Bushie!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 13, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
So.. you made a promise not to leave them, but you're going to leave them in 2 1/2 years? That seems pretty rude.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on July 13, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
bushie, hasnt your attendance been rather poor in your past jobs?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 14, 2012, 12:05:31 AM
So how's the exercise and diet going?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 14, 2012, 12:18:53 AM

Honestly, not so well.  My mind has been preoccupied as of late.

----

This morning's update:
Nesting is over and so is training as a whole!  I am now ready to move to the floor, on my own, beginning on Sunday at 1:15 pm!  At the very end of the day on Friday, as we were in our final team huddle of Nesting, our General Manager gave us the Job Numbers for the Supervisor, QA, and Trainer positions that is open.  He said they will be conducting interviews next week.  There are 14 positions total and we ended nesting with around 30 advisors.  This means, I have a 50/50 shot at getting one of the positions!  Right now, though, I am focusing on getting ready for being on my own tomorrow afternoon (Sunday) at 1:15 pm.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 14, 2012, 12:22:08 AM
What does preoccupied have anything to do with it?  Exercise is as easy as a 30-minute walk a day.  You were all gung-ho about this new doctor, but you're not putting any effort into it.  What's the point of having a good doctor if you don't follow his advice?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 14, 2012, 12:36:46 AM

Honestly, not so well.  My mind has been preoccupied as of late.

----

This morning's update:
Nesting is over and so is training as a whole!  I am now ready to move to the floor, on my own, beginning on Sunday at 1:15 pm!  At the very end of the day on Friday, as we were in our final team huddle of Nesting, our General Manager gave us the Job Numbers for the Supervisor, QA, and Trainer positions that is open.  He said they will be conducting interviews next week.  There are 14 positions total and we ended nesting with around 30 advisors.  This means, I have a 50/50 shot at getting one of the positions!  Right now, though, I am focusing on getting ready for being on my own tomorrow afternoon (Sunday) at 1:15 pm.

Get up off your ass and go for a walk....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 14, 2012, 12:48:14 AM
What does preoccupied have anything to do with it?  Exercise is as easy as a 30-minute walk a day.  You were all gung-ho about this new doctor, but you're not putting any effort into it.  What's the point of having a good doctor if you don't follow his advice?

I am exercising, though.  I'm not just sitting on my rear end all day being sedentary.  I'm not doing as well as I would like, but I am doing something.  At work, from the front row parking spot to my desk is about a full 5 minute walk, do that 4 times a day, that's 20 minutes.  However, I tend to park farther back, so I can get out faster, which adds about 2 minutes.  That's 7 minutes * 4 times a day which is 28 minutes a day walking.  That's not all at once, of course, but it is cumulative.  I know what you're going to say, "if you're doing that 4 times a day, you're going out to eat for lunch and eating the junk food negating the walk, right?"  Yes, I am going out to eat, but I'm not eating junk food.  I'm not getting burgers and fries except for once a week, I'm getting Subway generally with a Diet Coke.  I have actually lost about 4 pounds in the past couple of weeks.  Again, it's not where I want to be, but it is better than nothing.  Sometimes, I walk 4 times a day, and just go right back into the building at lunch instead of eating.  I'll just eat a small sandwich or a granola bar.  It is a very big parking lot, so I could actually get out there and walk around the parking lot for 20 minutes before I go back in.
I'm not doing nothing, I'm just not doing enough (in my opinion).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 14, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
What does preoccupied have anything to do with it?  Exercise is as easy as a 30-minute walk a day.  You were all gung-ho about this new doctor, but you're not putting any effort into it.  What's the point of having a good doctor if you don't follow his advice?

I am exercising, though.  I'm not just sitting on my rear end all day being sedentary.  I'm not doing as well as I would like, but I am doing something.  At work, from the front row parking spot to my desk is about a full 5 minute walk, do that 4 times a day, that's 20 minutes.  However, I tend to park farther back, so I can get out faster, which adds about 2 minutes.  That's 7 minutes * 4 times a day which is 28 minutes a day walking.  That's not all at once, of course, but it is cumulative.  I know what you're going to say, "if you're doing that 4 times a day, you're going out to eat for lunch and eating the junk food negating the walk, right?"  Yes, I am going out to eat, but I'm not eating junk food.  I'm not getting burgers and fries except for once a week, I'm getting Subway generally with a Diet Coke.  I have actually lost about 4 pounds in the past couple of weeks.  Again, it's not where I want to be, but it is better than nothing.  Sometimes, I walk 4 times a day, and just go right back into the building at lunch instead of eating.  I'll just eat a small sandwich or a granola bar.  It is a very big parking lot, so I could actually get out there and walk around the parking lot for 20 minutes before I go back in.
I'm not doing nothing, I'm just not doing enough (in my opinion).

That is nothing.......


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 14, 2012, 08:25:58 AM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 14, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Oakvale on July 14, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
Bushie, to re-iterate what I said earlier you're really better off changing your diet than trying to walk everywhere or whatever. No amount of exercise is going to negate a sh--ty diet.

Exercise just doesn't burn very much calories unless you're Michael Phelps. It's very important for general health and fitness, but your priority now should be to lose weight - you can worry about getting into shape after that's taken care of.

Start watching what you eat, and don't mess around - there's sites where you can keep a log of what you eat during the day, the calorie counts, etc. Even just keeping track of the food you're eating will help, just because you might realise how much crap you're eating without even realising it.

Bushie, look, you're morbidly obese. You're trying to lose weight so you don't die of a stroke or something at 40, you're not going to become a "self-righteous health-freak".

BTW, another problem I see with trying to exercise is related to what I mentioned above - you're going to (and, trust me, you will do this) massively exaggerate how much impact your exercise has, and if you're not careful it's very easy to turn that into "well, I walked for an hour today, guess I can help myself to a Big Mac!".


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on July 14, 2012, 07:04:36 PM
hahahahaha

Why are you people even bothering? See, there are two possibilities. Either (even if only in part) trolling to some extent, or is content to line his arteries and his internal organs with industrial quantities of grease until he drops dead at the age of forty. Nowt you can do either way, waste of time as well.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 14, 2012, 08:31:21 PM
Bushie, to re-iterate what I said earlier you're really better off changing your diet than trying to walk everywhere or whatever. No amount of exercise is going to negate a sh--ty diet.

Exercise just doesn't burn very much calories unless you're Michael Phelps. It's very important for general health and fitness, but your priority now should be to lose weight - you can worry about getting into shape after that's taken care of.

Start watching what you eat, and don't mess around - there's sites where you can keep a log of what you eat during the day, the calorie counts, etc. Even just keeping track of the food you're eating will help, just because you might realise how much crap you're eating without even realising it.

Bushie, look, you're morbidly obese. You're trying to lose weight so you don't die of a stroke or something at 40, you're not going to become a "self-righteous health-freak".

BTW, another problem I see with trying to exercise is related to what I mentioned above - you're going to (and, trust me, you will do this) massively exaggerate how much impact your exercise has, and if you're not careful it's very easy to turn that into "well, I walked for an hour today, guess I can help myself to a Big Mac!".

I know I'm obese, which is why I'm not going to just sit on my butt and do nothing.  It may take some time and experimentation and probably a lot of trial and error, but I've got to find the routine that works best for me, that will give me the nutrients and energy I need, that tastes good, and still allow me to lose weight.  I stlll have a goal of losing 25 pounds within the next 4 months which would put us at Thanksgiving.  My next doctor's appointment is on Friday, 28 September 2012 for a fasting lab and then Friday, 5 October 2012 to see the doctor for the results of the labs.  I have 75 days until the lab appointment and 82 days until the doctor's appointment.  I have a goal to lose at least 15 pounds by that time.  Longer term, I have a goal to have lost 50 pounds by my 31st birthday, which is 288 days away (9 1/2 months).  So, I'm going to have to get busy as we're already starting to approach August.  I can do it, though.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.  I have enough OCD, anyway, I don't need to add another obsession to the list.  I will be persistent, but not obsessed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on July 14, 2012, 08:33:39 PM
I'm still puzzled as to why in the fock this reached 100+ pages.

There's such thing as a joke getting old, guys. Time to take this one out in the backyard and shoot it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 14, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
I'm still puzzled as to why in the fock this reached 100+ pages.

There's such thing as a joke getting old, guys. Time to take this one out in the backyard and shoot it.

There are always interesting twists in the stories.  Many posters would reluctantly agree that this thread provided the need drama, comedy, reality, soap opera-ish material that this forum needs when the Presidential Election is dry of big news and talking points.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 14, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.

The health of the body absolutely matters, the fact you don't believe so might play a huge factor in why you are obese.

No one is saying you should worry yourself sick to get healthier.  Eating healthier and getting regular exercise should not worry you.  Eating nothing but cap and not getting much exercise should worry you because its dangerous.  That is FAR FAR more unhealthy than thinking about eating better and exercising.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 14, 2012, 10:23:04 PM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.

The health of the body absolutely matters, the fact you don't believe so might play a huge factor in why you are obese.

No one is saying you should worry yourself sick to get healthier.  Eating healthier and getting regular exercise should not worry you.  Eating nothing but cap and not getting much exercise should worry you because its dangerous.  That is FAR FAR more unhealthy than thinking about eating better and exercising.

I fully agree with that.  If you read my posts, I've got a plan that I am going to implement.  I am not going to just sit on my butt all day.  I'm going to find what plan is right for me that gives me the nutrients and energy I need, the taste I crave, and still allows me to lose weight.  I'm also going to get started walking around the parking lot, because I do believe exercise does do quite a bit.  It is true that exercise with no proper diet is useless, but a proper diet without exercise is also useless.  The two go hand in hand, and I'm going to do both.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on July 15, 2012, 01:47:38 AM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.

The health of the body absolutely matters, the fact you don't believe so might play a huge factor in why you are obese.

No one is saying you should worry yourself sick to get healthier.  Eating healthier and getting regular exercise should not worry you.  Eating nothing but cap and not getting much exercise should worry you because its dangerous.  That is FAR FAR more unhealthy than thinking about eating better and exercising.

I fully agree with that.  If you read my posts, I've got a plan that I am going to implement.  I am not going to just sit on my butt all day.  I'm going to find what plan is right for me that gives me the nutrients and energy I need, the taste I crave, and still allows me to lose weight.  I'm also going to get started walking around the parking lot, because I do believe exercise does do quite a bit.  It is true that exercise with no proper diet is useless, but a proper diet without exercise is also useless.  The two go hand in hand, and I'm going to do both.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.
Bushie, I know this is Oklahoma, but is there a walking trail along the road or a park nearby where you live/work that you can use to walk?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 15, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.

The health of the body absolutely matters, the fact you don't believe so might play a huge factor in why you are obese.

No one is saying you should worry yourself sick to get healthier.  Eating healthier and getting regular exercise should not worry you.  Eating nothing but cap and not getting much exercise should worry you because its dangerous.  That is FAR FAR more unhealthy than thinking about eating better and exercising.

I fully agree with that.  If you read my posts, I've got a plan that I am going to implement.  I am not going to just sit on my butt all day.  I'm going to find what plan is right for me that gives me the nutrients and energy I need, the taste I crave, and still allows me to lose weight.  I'm also going to get started walking around the parking lot, because I do believe exercise does do quite a bit.  It is true that exercise with no proper diet is useless, but a proper diet without exercise is also useless.  The two go hand in hand, and I'm going to do both.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.
Bushie, I know this is Oklahoma, but is there a walking trail along the road or a park nearby where you live/work that you can use to walk?

Yes, actually there are a few of them. In fact, there is a park in my neighborhood that is about a block from my house.  I've lived in this house for 3 years and have never visited it because I didn't want to be looked at suspiciously being a single guy.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 15, 2012, 11:12:55 PM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.

The health of the body absolutely matters, the fact you don't believe so might play a huge factor in why you are obese.

No one is saying you should worry yourself sick to get healthier.  Eating healthier and getting regular exercise should not worry you.  Eating nothing but cap and not getting much exercise should worry you because its dangerous.  That is FAR FAR more unhealthy than thinking about eating better and exercising.

I fully agree with that.  If you read my posts, I've got a plan that I am going to implement.  I am not going to just sit on my butt all day.  I'm going to find what plan is right for me that gives me the nutrients and energy I need, the taste I crave, and still allows me to lose weight.  I'm also going to get started walking around the parking lot, because I do believe exercise does do quite a bit.  It is true that exercise with no proper diet is useless, but a proper diet without exercise is also useless.  The two go hand in hand, and I'm going to do both.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.
Bushie, I know this is Oklahoma, but is there a walking trail along the road or a park nearby where you live/work that you can use to walk?

Yes, actually there are a few of them. In fact, there is a park in my neighborhood that is about a block from my house.  I've lived in this house for 3 years and have never visited it because I didn't want to be looked at suspiciously being a single guy.
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You won't visit a park, but you want to adopt children?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 16, 2012, 08:45:20 AM
I'm still puzzled as to why in the fock this reached 100+ pages.

There's such thing as a joke getting old, guys. Time to take this one out in the backyard and shoot it.

You werent here for Tiffanye. So, ya know.. gtfo.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 16, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
You do realize that stretching it out over the course of the day doesn't help. By the time you get your heart rate up, you're at your desk.

Yes, i realize that.

To counter that, I am thinking about taking advantage of that big parking lot at work and walk for about 25 minutes 3 times a week during my lunch hour and then coming back in and eating a quick bite before time to get back on the phones.

Honestly, though, I am not going to worry myself sick and make myself sick to get healthier.  Yes, I'm going to do what I can, but I am not going to go overboard and the last thing I want to turn into is a self-righteous health-freak.  I would rather work on my "insides" and purifying my heart before my God.  As much as physical health is important, it is all superficial, because nobody can take their health, in whatever state its in, with them when they die.  The only thing that truly matters in the long run is not the health of the body, but the health of the soul.  The health of the body is temporary, the health of the soul is permanent.  Am I going to use that as an excuse to sit on my lazy rear end?  No, because that is also contrary to the Bible.  I am called to take care of my physical temple, which is my body, but not to let fitness and nutrition become my god or sole focus in life.

The health of the body absolutely matters, the fact you don't believe so might play a huge factor in why you are obese.

No one is saying you should worry yourself sick to get healthier.  Eating healthier and getting regular exercise should not worry you.  Eating nothing but cap and not getting much exercise should worry you because its dangerous.  That is FAR FAR more unhealthy than thinking about eating better and exercising.

I fully agree with that.  If you read my posts, I've got a plan that I am going to implement.  I am not going to just sit on my butt all day.  I'm going to find what plan is right for me that gives me the nutrients and energy I need, the taste I crave, and still allows me to lose weight.  I'm also going to get started walking around the parking lot, because I do believe exercise does do quite a bit.  It is true that exercise with no proper diet is useless, but a proper diet without exercise is also useless.  The two go hand in hand, and I'm going to do both.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.
Bushie, I know this is Oklahoma, but is there a walking trail along the road or a park nearby where you live/work that you can use to walk?

Yes, actually there are a few of them. In fact, there is a park in my neighborhood that is about a block from my house.  I've lived in this house for 3 years and have never visited it because I didn't want to be looked at suspiciously being a single guy.
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You won't visit a park, but you want to adopt children?

Again, because I have a fear of the stereotype that all single men are predators.  Maybe, its an irrational fear, but its one I have.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 16, 2012, 01:22:42 PM
It's the stache! It's causing you to have this fear of being a child predator!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on July 16, 2012, 01:27:07 PM
^ Exactly.  Looking like a child predator tends to give people the impression that you are a child predator.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 16, 2012, 02:48:12 PM
What does preoccupied have anything to do with it?  Exercise is as easy as a 30-minute walk a day.  You were all gung-ho about this new doctor, but you're not putting any effort into it.  What's the point of having a good doctor if you don't follow his advice?

I am exercising, though.  I'm not just sitting on my rear end all day being sedentary.  I'm not doing as well as I would like, but I am doing something.  At work, from the front row parking spot to my desk is about a full 5 minute walk, do that 4 times a day, that's 20 minutes.  However, I tend to park farther back, so I can get out faster, which adds about 2 minutes.  That's 7 minutes * 4 times a day which is 28 minutes a day walking.  That's not all at once, of course, but it is cumulative.  I know what you're going to say, "if you're doing that 4 times a day, you're going out to eat for lunch and eating the junk food negating the walk, right?"  Yes, I am going out to eat, but I'm not eating junk food.  I'm not getting burgers and fries except for once a week, I'm getting Subway generally with a Diet Coke.  I have actually lost about 4 pounds in the past couple of weeks.  Again, it's not where I want to be, but it is better than nothing.  Sometimes, I walk 4 times a day, and just go right back into the building at lunch instead of eating.  I'll just eat a small sandwich or a granola bar.  It is a very big parking lot, so I could actually get out there and walk around the parking lot for 20 minutes before I go back in.
I'm not doing nothing, I'm just not doing enough (in my opinion).

Jeff, my walk into work is about 12 minutes from the parking lot to the office plus another 10 minutes from the office to my restaurant.  So that's 44 minutes a day, plus all of the walking I do to check on the restaurants near my main location.  I don't count that as exercise, so surely you shouldn't be counting your 14 minute walk in and out of work as exercise.  Is it good that you walk the extra 2 minutes, yes.  But a 14-minute walk is negligible in terms of calorie burning.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 16, 2012, 02:51:47 PM
I fully agree with that.  If you read my posts, I've got a plan that I am going to implement.  I am not going to just sit on my butt all day.  I'm going to find what plan is right for me that gives me the nutrients and energy I need, the taste I crave, and still allows me to lose weight.  I'm also going to get started walking around the parking lot, because I do believe exercise does do quite a bit.  It is true that exercise with no proper diet is useless, but a proper diet without exercise is also useless.  The two go hand in hand, and I'm going to do both.  I'm just not going to obsess over it.

I disagree with that.  It's all about calories.  If you cut your calories without exercising, you will still lose weight.  If you add exercise, it's better for you and for the weight loss, but I guarantee if you cut your diet without exercising, you'd still lose weight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 16, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
^ Exactly.  Looking like a child predator tends to give people the impression that you are a child predator.

I couldn't agree moar.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 17, 2012, 11:43:29 AM
Today is the final day of Month 1 at Xerox-Apple.  Moreover, today is my Thursday (the second-to-the-last day of the week).  The "weekend" will begin in about 34 1/2 hours at 22:45 tomorrow night.  They are planning to start the interviews for the higher positions (Sup, QA, Trainer, Real-Time Analyst) tomorrow.  The interviews for all 4 positions will likely continue through the rest of July, and possibly into August.  They have 14 positions total they need to fill and probably 40-50 applicants, so it will take a while to interview all the applicants for the positions.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on July 17, 2012, 07:25:58 PM
you are a afraid to go to a park because you are a single man?  wtf?

there are no tracks or trials anywhere?   you dont have to have kids to exercise....outdoors.  is jokelahoma really that bad?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 17, 2012, 08:28:49 PM
you are a afraid to go to a park because you are a single man?  wtf?

there are no tracks or trials anywhere?   you dont have to have kids to exercise....outdoors.  is jokelahoma really that bad?

That's a pretty silly question, Ray.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 18, 2012, 01:09:08 AM
you are a afraid to go to a park because you are a single man?  wtf?

there are no tracks or trials anywhere?   you dont have to have kids to exercise....outdoors.  is jokelahoma really that bad?

That's a pretty silly question, Ray.

It is a silly question because Oklahoma is a wonderful state.  It has plenty of parks and walking trails.  It all boils down to one thing and I'll admit, I'm lazy.  What I need is an accountability partner and walking buddy to keep me motivated.  We can discuss good suggestions and game plans all day long, but if the will is not on board, the train will never leave the depot.  Its something I am trying to work and not just in weight loss.  Dont expect results overnight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on July 18, 2012, 01:52:31 AM
you are a afraid to go to a park because you are a single man?  wtf?

there are no tracks or trials anywhere?   you dont have to have kids to exercise....outdoors.  is jokelahoma really that bad?

That's a pretty silly question, Ray.

It is a silly question because Oklahoma is a wonderful state.  It has plenty of parks and walking trails.  It all boils down to one thing and I'll admit, I'm lazy.  What I need is an accountability partner and walking buddy to keep me motivated.  We can discuss good suggestions and game plans all day long, but if the will is not on board, the train will never leave the depot.  Its something I am trying to work and not just in weight loss.  Dont expect results overnight.

You need a walking buddy you can discuss Christ with.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 18, 2012, 02:20:18 AM
Why don't churches in Oklahoma promote exercise and healthy eating? Surely going on a walk for an hour or playing soccer or something is better for the health of their congregation than Wednesday night prayer meetings or whatever nonsense they're currently doing instead. I mean, if you're going to brainwash these poor people to the point that they're willing to go die in Africa for you, the least you could do is brainwash them into eating right and exercising as well.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 18, 2012, 08:28:10 AM
Why don't you just get a dog walker to walk you around the block a few times? Kind of like what they did to Arthur on King of Queens.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 18, 2012, 08:33:41 AM
Yes I must say that using the excuse for not taking walkies that folks will think one is a pedophile is most original and novel. Well done Bushie!  I mean if you are going to sit on your butt and be a fat, at least get out of the box as to the reason why you feel constrained to remain in that state. Not having the time or money are far too "pedestrian"  types of excuses.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on July 18, 2012, 09:53:32 AM
Yes I must say that using the excuse for not taking walkies that folks will think one is a pedophile is most original and novel. Well done Bushie! 

It is true!  I don't care if the man's 500 pounds, his sense of humor alone makes him beautiful.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 18, 2012, 10:47:33 PM
you are a afraid to go to a park because you are a single man?  wtf?

there are no tracks or trials anywhere?   you dont have to have kids to exercise....outdoors.  is jokelahoma really that bad?

That's a pretty silly question, Ray.

It is a silly question because Oklahoma is a wonderful state.  It has plenty of parks and walking trails.  It all boils down to one thing and I'll admit, I'm lazy.  What I need is an accountability partner and walking buddy to keep me motivated.  We can discuss good suggestions and game plans all day long, but if the will is not on board, the train will never leave the depot.  Its something I am trying to work and not just in weight loss.  Dont expect results overnight.

How about looking at yourself in the mirror??

Or wanting to actually be around for your Kenyan "Children", you know not die on them because you are an unhealthy and obese?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 01:39:19 AM
you are a afraid to go to a park because you are a single man?  wtf?

there are no tracks or trials anywhere?   you dont have to have kids to exercise....outdoors.  is jokelahoma really that bad?

That's a pretty silly question, Ray.

It is a silly question because Oklahoma is a wonderful state.  It has plenty of parks and walking trails.  It all boils down to one thing and I'll admit, I'm lazy.  What I need is an accountability partner and walking buddy to keep me motivated.  We can discuss good suggestions and game plans all day long, but if the will is not on board, the train will never leave the depot.  Its something I am trying to work and not just in weight loss.  Dont expect results overnight.

How about looking at yourself in the mirror??

Or wanting to actually be around for your Kenyan "Children", you know not die on them because you are an unhealthy and obese?

You're right, my kids are a big motivator.  I do want to be around to see them grow up and turn into teenagers and then adults and maybe give me "grandchildren" later on down the road.  My daughter, Mercy, is just 20 months from becoming a teenager.  She will be 12 on 24 March 2013.  I'll be down there to celebrate with her!  I want to celebrate many more birthdays with her and with my son, Phelix, is 8 years old.

I'm proud of where I've come since last November.  I'm down 25-30 pounds from my peak of 285.0 that was hit on 14 November 2011, just two days after what likely was a minor heart attack on 12 November 2011.  I've fallen off the bandwagon in the past 3 or 4 months.  I'm determined to get back on the bandwagon.  The only thing I'm still doing right is not drinking regular soda, except on a rare occasion.  I am now drinking Diet Dr Pepper, Sprite Zero, an occasional glass of milk, and good ole' water!  I am currently in the process of lowering the soda intake and raising the water intake.  If I can get them to at least be even with one another in consumption, I'll be doing well.  Next thing I need to do is eat at the house.  Even if its not the healthiest food, its still better than consuming a half pound or a 2/3 pound grease bucket otherwise known as a hamburger and better than consuming those large death sticks (otherwise known as french fries).  Those are okay once in a while, but that's it, once in a while, not once a day or really even once a week.  I'll start with the dieting for now, and then as the temperatures start cooling down late this summer heading into the fall, I'll start getting outside and walking.  Right now, I weigh ~260.0, my goal is to be at least 245 by my doctor's appointments at the end of September and the beginning of October.  Beyond that, my goal is to be down to 235 by Thanksgiving and 225 by New Year's.  I'm not going to make any goals beyond that for now as I don't want to get discouraged if I'm not on track toward that goal.  The only reason I won't get outside now is we're entering a stretch of 103-107 degree heat that has no real end in sight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 19, 2012, 02:13:14 AM
You had a minor heart attack??? And that wasn't enough motivation?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 02:26:53 AM
You had a minor heart attack??? And that wasn't enough motivation?

It was the motivation for losing 25 pounds.  I've since lost track of that motivation and I had to find a new motivation, that being my children.

Actually, that was my 2nd minor heart attack.  The first one was in my Junior Year of High School back in the Fall 1999.  I was actually a normal weight back in high school.  I was in the lunch cafeteria and I felt my chest tighten, my breath become laborous, and my left arm tingle.  I didn't have to leave school, I just had to rest in the principal's office all of 3rd period and was able to go back to 4th period to complete the day.  The first heart attack was a real quick one, while the second heart attack felt like it lasted most of the day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 19, 2012, 02:33:17 AM
You had a minor heart attack??? And that wasn't enough motivation?

It was the motivation for losing 25 pounds.  I've since lost track of that motivation and I had to find a new motivation, that being my children.

Actually, that was my 2nd minor heart attack.  The first one was in my Junior Year of High School back in the Fall 1999.  I was actually a normal weight back in high school.  I was in the lunch cafeteria and I felt my chest tighten, my breath become laborous, and my left arm tingle.  I didn't have to leave school, I just had to rest in the principal's office all of 3rd period and was able to go back to 4th period to complete the day.  The first heart attack was a real quick one, while the second heart attack felt like it lasted most of the day.

Was the heart attack actually confirmed by an ECG?

And so what if it's 102 during the day?  You CAN walk at night, you know.  Stop making excuses.  If you really wanted to get in shape, you could easily start doing it right now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on July 19, 2012, 02:36:19 AM
I'm down 25-30 pounds from my peak of 285.0 that was hit on 14 November 2011, just two days after what likely was a minor heart attack on 12 November 2011.

You had a minor heart attack on November 12?  I just looked to see what you were posting about that day:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=1387;sa=showPosts;start=1860

You posted in the afternoon saying that you were going watch the GOP primary debate that night.  Is that what did you in?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 19, 2012, 08:18:51 AM
Wow...just...wow


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: afleitch on July 19, 2012, 09:51:59 AM
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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 11:55:37 AM
You had a minor heart attack??? And that wasn't enough motivation?

It was the motivation for losing 25 pounds.  I've since lost track of that motivation and I had to find a new motivation, that being my children.

Actually, that was my 2nd minor heart attack.  The first one was in my Junior Year of High School back in the Fall 1999.  I was actually a normal weight back in high school.  I was in the lunch cafeteria and I felt my chest tighten, my breath become laborous, and my left arm tingle.  I didn't have to leave school, I just had to rest in the principal's office all of 3rd period and was able to go back to 4th period to complete the day.  The first heart attack was a real quick one, while the second heart attack felt like it lasted most of the day.

Was the heart attack actually confirmed by an ECG?

And so what if it's 102 during the day?  You CAN walk at night, you know.  Stop making excuses.  If you really wanted to get in shape, you could easily start doing it right now.

No, neither heart attack was confirmed by ECG.  It just felt extremely similar to one.

I'm not going to start doing everything at once.  I'm going to start with the diet and then as time goes on add in the exercise.  I don't want to overwhelm myself at the very front.  I want to gradually ease into this.  Will I eventually do both?  Yes, but I want to ease into it first instead of starting full throttle right away and burning out.  The last thing I want to is burn out and see the 25 pounds I lost earlier this year come back.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 19, 2012, 01:35:31 PM
How do you know what a heart attack feels like without knowing what one feels like? Sometimes an irregular heart beat is said to feel nearly similiar to one, and it can be very rare.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 02:50:01 PM
How do you know what a heart attack feels like without knowing what one feels like? Sometimes an irregular heart beat is said to feel nearly similiar to one, and it can be very rare.

Like I said, I am not 100% sure either one of them were heart attacks, and like you said, I have never felt one before.  All I know is neither incident was good whatever it was.  The first one didn't spur me into anything because I was still of a normal weight.  The second one scared me and got me to lose 30 pounds.  I have since gained 5 pounds back, but I'm about ready to started aiming downward again.  I talked to my mother a couple hours ago and she is trying to lose weight as well.  So, I can go on a diet with her and we can keep each other accountable.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on July 19, 2012, 07:05:08 PM
bushie if you did in fact have two 'minor heart attacks' before the age of 30 that is really f'ing bad news.  statistically speaking...very bad.

how much motivation do you need?

being morbidly obese + having two minor heart attacks before age 30 = a very short life expectancy.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 07:22:07 PM
bushie if you did in fact have two 'minor heart attacks' before the age of 30 that is really f'ing bad news.  statistically speaking...very bad.

how much motivation do you need?

being morbidly obese + having two minor heart attacks before age 30 = a very short life expectancy.

Did you not read my posts?  Is nobody reading my posts?  I said the last incident last November was the motivation for losing 30 pounds which reversed my trend.  Without that incident I likely would have been over 300 pounds by now.  Instead, I'm at 260 right now and am beginning the process of losing more.  The motivation of that incident played itself out earlier this year, but now, my motivation is my children.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 19, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
If actually thinking sponsor children are actually yours motivates you to lose weight, good for you.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
If actually thinking sponsor children are actually yours motivates you to lose weight, good for you.

It's just as good a motivation as any, isn't it?  Whatever gets me to lose weight should be good, right?  Regardless of the validity of the motivator, its still good!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 19, 2012, 11:13:31 PM
You had a minor heart attack??? And that wasn't enough motivation?

It was the motivation for losing 25 pounds.  I've since lost track of that motivation and I had to find a new motivation, that being my children.

Actually, that was my 2nd minor heart attack.  The first one was in my Junior Year of High School back in the Fall 1999.  I was actually a normal weight back in high school.  I was in the lunch cafeteria and I felt my chest tighten, my breath become laborous, and my left arm tingle.  I didn't have to leave school, I just had to rest in the principal's office all of 3rd period and was able to go back to 4th period to complete the day.  The first heart attack was a real quick one, while the second heart attack felt like it lasted most of the day.

Was the heart attack actually confirmed by an ECG?

And so what if it's 102 during the day?  You CAN walk at night, you know.  Stop making excuses.  If you really wanted to get in shape, you could easily start doing it right now.

No, neither heart attack was confirmed by ECG.  It just felt extremely similar to one.

I'm not going to start doing everything at once.  I'm going to start with the diet and then as time goes on add in the exercise.  I don't want to overwhelm myself at the very front.  I want to gradually ease into this.  Will I eventually do both?  Yes, but I want to ease into it first instead of starting full throttle right away and burning out.  The last thing I want to is burn out and see the 25 pounds I lost earlier this year come back.

How the f*** can you burn out by doing both eating healthier and exercising??

No one is suggesting you try to start running several miles a day, but you should be able to eat healthier and go for some walks without burning out.....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 19, 2012, 11:37:06 PM
You had a minor heart attack??? And that wasn't enough motivation?

It was the motivation for losing 25 pounds.  I've since lost track of that motivation and I had to find a new motivation, that being my children.

Actually, that was my 2nd minor heart attack.  The first one was in my Junior Year of High School back in the Fall 1999.  I was actually a normal weight back in high school.  I was in the lunch cafeteria and I felt my chest tighten, my breath become laborous, and my left arm tingle.  I didn't have to leave school, I just had to rest in the principal's office all of 3rd period and was able to go back to 4th period to complete the day.  The first heart attack was a real quick one, while the second heart attack felt like it lasted most of the day.

Was the heart attack actually confirmed by an ECG?

And so what if it's 102 during the day?  You CAN walk at night, you know.  Stop making excuses.  If you really wanted to get in shape, you could easily start doing it right now.

No, neither heart attack was confirmed by ECG.  It just felt extremely similar to one.

I'm not going to start doing everything at once.  I'm going to start with the diet and then as time goes on add in the exercise.  I don't want to overwhelm myself at the very front.  I want to gradually ease into this.  Will I eventually do both?  Yes, but I want to ease into it first instead of starting full throttle right away and burning out.  The last thing I want to is burn out and see the 25 pounds I lost earlier this year come back.

How the f*** can you burn out by doing both eating healthier and exercising??

No one is suggesting you try to start running several miles a day, but you should be able to eat healthier and go for some walks without burning out.....

I was going too hard and trying to do too much.  Plus, I got caught up in planning for Kenya that I lost track of what I was doing.  Not to mention, when my body got home, my mind was still in Kenya even now, 4 months later.

That's in the past now, it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect what I'm doing now.

It is 20 minutes until midnight, Friday, 20 July 2012.  This means, I am 20 minutes away from officially beginning this diet.  I've put it off long enough, its time to get back to what I was doing late last year and early this year.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 20, 2012, 08:44:33 AM
I agree, whatever motivates you to lose weight is good. See, I don't use the possibility of me dying 30 to 40 years early as a motivation. The thought of me seeing a black President was mine. Of course, that happened in 2008 so I just stoped working out.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 20, 2012, 09:24:46 AM
Insert dates, Bushie:

Last visit to IHOP =

Last visit to fast food chain =

Last time mom made something smothered in butter =

Last visit to Cracker Barrell =

K?  Thx.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 20, 2012, 09:30:09 AM
Insert dates, Bushie:

Last visit to IHOP = Probably 2-3 weeks ago

Last visit to fast food chain = Last night

Last time mom made something smothered in butter = Long time ago, probably a year or more

Last visit to Cracker Barrell = Last Saturday Afternoon

K?  Thx.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 20, 2012, 11:06:36 AM
I'm suspicious that momma's home cooking is healthy in any way shape or form, but ok.....start eating better and walk and all will be well.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 20, 2012, 11:10:32 AM
I'm suspicious that momma's home cooking is healthy in any way shape or form, but ok.....start eating better and walk and all will be well.

The problem is she doesn't cook very often.  Tonight, we're having soft tacos, but she doesn't cook a whole lot, so when I'm over there we're either grilling out or eating out.  She cooks more during the winter months, but still not very often.  Usually, if anybody cooks a family dinner, its my grandmother.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 20, 2012, 11:54:19 PM
My plan to move to Kenya has not abated one bit in the past 4 months.  This passion for missions has been 30 years 3 months in the making and 9 months in knowledge.  God has been preparing me my entire life for such a time as this.  He brought this opportunity before me to go to Kenya late October 2011.  I initially  made a mistake and declined the opportunity.  God put His hands on my shoulder and it wasn’t more than 2 weeks later that I had changed course and was seeking information about Maisha International Orphanage.  I am so glad God changed my mind or I would have missed a HUGE blessing.  I have fallen in love with Kenya, the Kenyan People, and especially my children, Phelix and Mercy.  I have a passion to one day make my home in Kisumu and spread my ministry to the region such as Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and if God permits, Somalia.  I still have some ministry left in Oklahoma, but my heart is still in East Africa.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: © tweed on July 21, 2012, 12:05:41 AM
those aren't their real names dude.  you shameless cultural imperialist.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on July 21, 2012, 01:57:31 AM
Bushie, if you have had a heart attack already you need to immediately go on a whole foods, plant based diet if you want to live past 40. Do you take drugs for your cholesterol and blood pressure? Are you a diabetic? If you are, your chances of having another heart attack just went up even more. Do you monitor your cholesterol and blood sugar often?

Also if you can, please watch the movie "Forks over Knives". The insistence that meat and dairy products cause cancer are controversial, but otherwise the movie is right on in showing you what you should be eating most of the time. In your case I would not eat any animal product, except for completely fat free milk. Not 1% or 2%, completely fat free. And no oil whatsoever. Not only no butter or margarine, but no olive or canola oil either. Just put grilling spices on vegetables and bake them. Eat them along with high fiber whole grain bread. Also no processed foods whatsoever. If you have had a heart attack and you don't take these drastic steps, you will not live very long.

Also most importantly, if you haven't told you doctor about these possible heart attacks, do so immediately.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on July 21, 2012, 05:22:28 AM
those aren't their real names dude.  you shameless cultural imperialist.

You expect Bushie to post the real names of minors here on Atlas?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on July 21, 2012, 09:52:25 AM

I'm proud of where I've come since last November.  I'm down 25-30 pounds from my peak of 285.0 that was hit on 14 November 2011, just two days after what likely was a minor heart attack on 12 November 2011.  I've fallen off the bandwagon in the past 3 or 4 months.  I'm determined to get back on the bandwagon.  The only thing I'm still doing right is not drinking regular soda, except on a rare occasion.  I am now drinking Diet Dr Pepper, Sprite Zero, an occasional glass of milk, and good ole' water!  I am currently in the process of lowering the soda intake and raising the water intake.  If I can get them to at least be even with one another in consumption, I'll be doing well.  Next thing I need to do is eat at the house.  Even if its not the healthiest food, its still better than consuming a half pound or a 2/3 pound grease bucket otherwise known as a hamburger and better than consuming those large death sticks (otherwise known as french fries).  Those are okay once in a while, but that's it, once in a while, not once a day or really even once a week.  I'll start with the dieting for now, and then as the temperatures start cooling down late this summer heading into the fall, I'll start getting outside and walking.  Right now, I weigh ~260.0, my goal is to be at least 245 by my doctor's appointments at the end of September and the beginning of October.  Beyond that, my goal is to be down to 235 by Thanksgiving and 225 by New Year's.  I'm not going to make any goals beyond that for now as I don't want to get discouraged if I'm not on track toward that goal.  The only reason I won't get outside now is we're entering a stretch of 103-107 degree heat that has no real end in sight.

Bushie, you want to lose 15 pounds by the end of September, right?  You've been promising and promising to improve yourself, and then reneging on those promises, disappointing all the good folks here that have gotten involved with your story and really want to help you.  One could almost say your constant moves towards doing something good, then not, are trolling the audience.

Proposal on that front: that this is now time to put up or shut up.  Over the next two moths between now and September 30th, you reduce your weight to 245 lbs.  If you are unsuccessful in doing so, I will give your posts in this thread 50 infraction points and get you on Mod Review.

I am doing this not because I don't like you (I do like you, and think you're a good person), but because, like the rest of the good folks here, I'm concerned about you.  I realize this isn't much encouragement, but it's the most I have the power to do, and I sincerely hope you succeed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on July 21, 2012, 11:26:46 AM
^ Mikado is completely serious; the Mod team discussed this and we* are in full agreement.


* Those of us who actually give a sh[inks], anyway.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 21, 2012, 11:43:51 AM

I'm proud of where I've come since last November.  I'm down 25-30 pounds from my peak of 285.0 that was hit on 14 November 2011, just two days after what likely was a minor heart attack on 12 November 2011.  I've fallen off the bandwagon in the past 3 or 4 months.  I'm determined to get back on the bandwagon.  The only thing I'm still doing right is not drinking regular soda, except on a rare occasion.  I am now drinking Diet Dr Pepper, Sprite Zero, an occasional glass of milk, and good ole' water!  I am currently in the process of lowering the soda intake and raising the water intake.  If I can get them to at least be even with one another in consumption, I'll be doing well.  Next thing I need to do is eat at the house.  Even if its not the healthiest food, its still better than consuming a half pound or a 2/3 pound grease bucket otherwise known as a hamburger and better than consuming those large death sticks (otherwise known as french fries).  Those are okay once in a while, but that's it, once in a while, not once a day or really even once a week.  I'll start with the dieting for now, and then as the temperatures start cooling down late this summer heading into the fall, I'll start getting outside and walking.  Right now, I weigh ~260.0, my goal is to be at least 245 by my doctor's appointments at the end of September and the beginning of October.  Beyond that, my goal is to be down to 235 by Thanksgiving and 225 by New Year's.  I'm not going to make any goals beyond that for now as I don't want to get discouraged if I'm not on track toward that goal.  The only reason I won't get outside now is we're entering a stretch of 103-107 degree heat that has no real end in sight.

Bushie, you want to lose 15 pounds by the end of September, right?  You've been promising and promising to improve yourself, and then reneging on those promises, disappointing all the good folks here that have gotten involved with your story and really want to help you.  One could almost say your constant moves towards doing something good, then not, are trolling the audience.

Proposal on that front: that this is now time to put up or shut up.  Over the next two moths between now and September 30th, you reduce your weight to 245 lbs.  If you are unsuccessful in doing so, I will give your posts in this thread 50 infraction points and get you on Mod Review.

I am doing this not because I don't like you (I do like you, and think you're a good person), but because, like the rest of the good folks here, I'm concerned about you.  I realize this isn't much encouragement, but it's the most I have the power to do, and I sincerely hope you succeed.

I don't like the fact that my Forum life is on the line here, but I'll take the proposal.  I have to be down to 245 lbs by 30 September.  I am already on my way.  Of course, the diet just started yesterday, so I haven't really lost anything yet, except a half a pound.  I can do this and I will do this.  Today, I'm going to eat real light.  Except for some Diet Dr. Pepper and Water to keep my voice lubricated while I take calls, I'm going to just have a sandwich for lunch and a couple sandwiches for dinner.  I'll be hungry by the time I get off work at 10:15 this evening, but I'll live.  Hopefully tomorrow morning will be better than this morning was.  I'll check in again with you tonight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on July 21, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
It's on the line to give you encouragement.  We want you to succeed.

Even if you fail, a period of mod review isn't the end of Forum life, either.  You'll be back in action in just over a week.

The point is that constantly saying you're going to lose the weight and not doing so, and disregarding all of the assistance offered you in this thread, is, in a very real sense, trolling the forum.

For the record I'm 100% confident that if you try, you can get yourself to 245 by September 30th, and I wouldn't have made this challenge if I wasn't.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 21, 2012, 11:57:46 AM
It's on the line to give you encouragement.  We want you to succeed.

Even if you fail, a period of mod review isn't the end of Forum life, either.  You'll be back in action in just over a week.

The point is that constantly saying you're going to lose the weight and not doing so, and disregarding all of the assistance offered you in this thread, is, in a very real sense, trolling the forum.

For the record I'm 100% confident that if you try, you can get yourself to 245 by September 30th, and I wouldn't have made this challenge if I wasn't.

Oh, I know I can do it.  And, I'm already on my way!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on July 21, 2012, 04:55:04 PM

I'm proud of where I've come since last November.  I'm down 25-30 pounds from my peak of 285.0 that was hit on 14 November 2011, just two days after what likely was a minor heart attack on 12 November 2011.  I've fallen off the bandwagon in the past 3 or 4 months.  I'm determined to get back on the bandwagon.  The only thing I'm still doing right is not drinking regular soda, except on a rare occasion.  I am now drinking Diet Dr Pepper, Sprite Zero, an occasional glass of milk, and good ole' water!  I am currently in the process of lowering the soda intake and raising the water intake.  If I can get them to at least be even with one another in consumption, I'll be doing well.  Next thing I need to do is eat at the house.  Even if its not the healthiest food, its still better than consuming a half pound or a 2/3 pound grease bucket otherwise known as a hamburger and better than consuming those large death sticks (otherwise known as french fries).  Those are okay once in a while, but that's it, once in a while, not once a day or really even once a week.  I'll start with the dieting for now, and then as the temperatures start cooling down late this summer heading into the fall, I'll start getting outside and walking.  Right now, I weigh ~260.0, my goal is to be at least 245 by my doctor's appointments at the end of September and the beginning of October.  Beyond that, my goal is to be down to 235 by Thanksgiving and 225 by New Year's.  I'm not going to make any goals beyond that for now as I don't want to get discouraged if I'm not on track toward that goal.  The only reason I won't get outside now is we're entering a stretch of 103-107 degree heat that has no real end in sight.

Bushie, you want to lose 15 pounds by the end of September, right?  You've been promising and promising to improve yourself, and then reneging on those promises, disappointing all the good folks here that have gotten involved with your story and really want to help you.  One could almost say your constant moves towards doing something good, then not, are trolling the audience.

Proposal on that front: that this is now time to put up or shut up.  Over the next two moths between now and September 30th, you reduce your weight to 245 lbs.  If you are unsuccessful in doing so, I will give your posts in this thread 50 infraction points and get you on Mod Review.

I am doing this not because I don't like you (I do like you, and think you're a good person), but because, like the rest of the good folks here, I'm concerned about you.  I realize this isn't much encouragement, but it's the most I have the power to do, and I sincerely hope you succeed.

I don't like the fact that my Forum life is on the line here, but I'll take the proposal.  I have to be down to 245 lbs by 30 September.  I am already on my way.  Of course, the diet just started yesterday, so I haven't really lost anything yet, except a half a pound.  I can do this and I will do this.  Today, I'm going to eat real light.  Except for some Diet Dr. Pepper and Water to keep my voice lubricated while I take calls, I'm going to just have a sandwich for lunch and a couple sandwiches for dinner.  I'll be hungry by the time I get off work at 10:15 this evening, but I'll live.  Hopefully tomorrow morning will be better than this morning was.  I'll check in again with you tonight.

Drink only water Bushie. Why do you need to put any other liquid in your body?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 21, 2012, 10:59:13 PM
I did pretty good today.  I only had a couple sandwiches and some chips for dinner, and nothing for lunch.  I should be able to lose a little bit in the morning.  So, I had my only meal of the day at 5:30 pm this evening.  Maybe that's going too far the other way, but I woke up too late for breakfast and ran out of time for lunch.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 21, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
What do you mean when you say "a couple of sandwiches"?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 21, 2012, 11:31:29 PM
What do you mean when you say "a couple of sandwiches"?

Ham sandwiches with mustard, lettuce, and a slice of cheese.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 22, 2012, 12:23:43 AM
I know it's not good to weigh yourself more than once a day (or really once a week), but I had to take a peek just a bit ago.  I'm already underneath what I weighed in at Saturday morning.  I was at 263.8 Saturday morning and down to 263.4 Saturday night.  I'm finished with food for the night, so I'm pretty much guaranteed to lose a little bit of weight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 22, 2012, 12:24:58 AM
those aren't their real names dude.  you shameless cultural imperialist.

You expect Bushie to post the real names of minors here on Atlas?


Exactly, I learned my lesson with a few death points over that a couple years ago.  I just posted their first names this time, not their last names.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 22, 2012, 08:04:39 AM
What do you mean when you say "a couple of sandwiches"?

And chips! It's part of the new health craze.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 22, 2012, 08:18:11 AM
Bushie, nothing is guaranteed. Nothing at all. Just because you dropped .4 pounds doesn't mean a darn thing in the long run. Not that you should be discouraged. I've wavered between like a range of five pounds over the course of a week, and not all in a trend either. Just saying. But keep hanging in there and keep trying. I haven't been reading this entire thread, but I'll assume you've been walking regularly.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 22, 2012, 10:04:16 AM
I weighed in this morning at 261.8 which is 2 pounds down from where I was yesterday morning.  Good start, there's a lot of work left to do!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on July 22, 2012, 11:25:26 AM
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Godspeed, Bushie.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 23, 2012, 12:36:18 AM
Another pretty good day on my diet.  I went through the same routine on Sunday as I did on Saturday, so I should lose a little bit more by the time I wake up this morning.  One of the things I need to do, though, is find a way to eat healthy throughout the day instead of eating my first meal of the day at 17:30.  That will let me lose weight for a little bit, but that's not sustainable, and I will burn out quickly because I'll get hungry.  If I can make myself get up a little earlier of a morning or force myself to step away from the computer for just a few minutes to get a decently healthy late breakfast or early lunch and then continue with a decently healthy dinner, I'll be in better shape and better set up for the long term.  Any suggestions on a breakfast item(s) that tastes great, is easy and quick to prepare, and will give me the nutrients I need to last until my dinner time?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: © tweed on July 23, 2012, 12:40:40 AM
hard boiled eggs and turkey bacon doused with honey


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 23, 2012, 12:55:14 AM
hard boiled eggs and turkey bacon doused with honey

That actually sounds pretty appetizing.  I may try that pretty soon.  Thanks!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on July 23, 2012, 12:56:32 AM
Try making oatmeal. It's pretty cheap, quick to make, and reasonably healthy unless you douse it in sugar.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 23, 2012, 12:58:51 AM
Try making oatmeal. It's pretty cheap, quick to make, and reasonably healthy unless you douse it in sugar.

I do put quite a bit of brown sugar in oatmeal, generally.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 23, 2012, 01:03:52 AM
Low-fat yogurt (real yogurt, not Yoplait or whatever, that's just sugar) + fruits (+ possibly granola, but a lot of granola is way too sugary and not actually good for you, despite what the package might say) is good. You can even buy lots of frozen fruits (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, mango chunks, whatever you want) so you don't have to worry about them going bad or whatever. You can put some honey or splenda on top as well if you'd like it a bit sweeter.

Also whole grain toast + natural peanut butter (look on the back of the jar of peanut butter, if the ingredients are anything besides peanuts and salt you're doing it wrong) + sliced banana (+ a little bit of honey) is really delicious and filling. It's probably not super low fat/calories but compared to what most Americans eat, it's fine.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 23, 2012, 01:09:24 AM
Low-fat yogurt (real yogurt, not Yoplait or whatever, that's just sugar) + fruits (+ possibly granola, but a lot of granola is way too sugary and not actually good for you, despite what the package might say) is good. You can even buy lots of frozen fruits (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, mango chunks, whatever you want) so you don't have to worry about them going bad or whatever. You can put some honey or splenda on top as well if you'd like it a bit sweeter.

Also whole grain toast + natural peanut butter (look on the back of the jar of peanut butter, if the ingredients are anything besides peanuts and salt you're doing it wrong) + sliced banana (+ a little bit of honey) is really delicious and filling. It's probably not super low fat but compared to what most Americans eat, it's fine.

All of that does sound delicious.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 23, 2012, 01:13:59 AM
Bushie, do you ever go to things in downtown OKC and walk to them? I started a new policy of walking to anything I wanted to go to in downtown Minneapolis and lost 15 pounds in a couple months with basically no change in my diet whatsoever.

Also you should look up where the shows are in OKC. The moshing and dancing is a big workout. I once did an experiment and found out that I lost six pounds after going to Dude Fest, despite the fact my diet the whole time was an utter disaster (it was basically nothing but McDonald's, potato chips, ice cream, and alcohol.)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 23, 2012, 01:31:33 AM
Bushie, do you ever go to things in downtown OKC and walk to them? I started a new policy of walking to anything I wanted to go to in downtown Minneapolis and lost 15 pounds in a couple months with basically no change in my diet whatsoever.

Also you should look up where the shows are in OKC. The moshing and dancing is a big workout. I once did an experiment and found out that I lost six pounds after going to Dude Fest, despite the fact my diet the whole time was an utter disaster (it was basically nothing but McDonald's, potato chips, ice cream, and alcohol.)

I don't do much in Bricktown or Downtown OKC very often, mainly because I don't have anyone to go with, hardly.  I would love to experience a little of the "night life" in Oklahoma City which is pretty bustling, I just don't have very many people to go with who I would like to hang out with.  Most of them either stay home or have their own families or drink, smoke, swear, and are "naughty" to a degree.  Things I don't need to be around being a clergyman.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 23, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Can somebody please just get Bushie some adderall? Sometimes drugs are the answer.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 23, 2012, 06:58:40 AM
Maybe when I go up to Oklahoma next month I'll take him out for a nice walk in the park with me, so he doesn't feel like a pedo.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 23, 2012, 08:17:49 AM
Bushie, do you ever go to things in downtown OKC and walk to them? I started a new policy of walking to anything I wanted to go to in downtown Minneapolis and lost 15 pounds in a couple months with basically no change in my diet whatsoever.

Also you should look up where the shows are in OKC. The moshing and dancing is a big workout. I once did an experiment and found out that I lost six pounds after going to Dude Fest, despite the fact my diet the whole time was an utter disaster (it was basically nothing but McDonald's, potato chips, ice cream, and alcohol.)

I'm gonna agree with BRTD for maybe the second time in my life here. Moshing is an incredible workout.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 23, 2012, 08:27:20 AM
Also, congrats BushOaklahoma. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 23, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
The weight is dropping like nobody's business.  As of this morning, I am down to 258.1.  I started at 263.8 on Friday.  That's nearly 6 pounds in 72 hours...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 23, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
Bushie, do you ever go to things in downtown OKC and walk to them? I started a new policy of walking to anything I wanted to go to in downtown Minneapolis and lost 15 pounds in a couple months with basically no change in my diet whatsoever.

Also you should look up where the shows are in OKC. The moshing and dancing is a big workout. I once did an experiment and found out that I lost six pounds after going to Dude Fest, despite the fact my diet the whole time was an utter disaster (it was basically nothing but McDonald's, potato chips, ice cream, and alcohol.)

I don't do much in Bricktown or Downtown OKC very often, mainly because I don't have anyone to go with, hardly.  I would love to experience a little of the "night life" in Oklahoma City which is pretty bustling, I just don't have very many people to go with who I would like to hang out with.  Most of them either stay home or have their own families or drink, smoke, swear, and are "naughty" to a degree.  Things I don't need to be around being a clergyman.

What? I know clergy who hang out with people who do those things/frequently do them themselves. I even once heard an anecdote where some guy talked about how he had to get up at 9AM to speak at some church despite being hung over. Oklahoma really is that backward and messed up after all.

Bushie, would it actually be a scandal at your church if it was found out that someone who goes it to regularly used weed?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on July 23, 2012, 04:51:34 PM
I'm glad Catholics (at least in that respect) aren't crazies.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 23, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
I'm glad Catholics (at least in that respect) aren't crazies.

Considering that they don't even let their priests get married...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 24, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
I am in the 5th day of this Thanksgiving 2012 Diet.  I started at a weight of 263.8.  As of this morning, I am down to 257.  Nearly 7 pounds in just 4 days.  I've just been eating less.  Plain and simple.  I haven't developed or used a x-step program.  I've just been eating less.  That 257, puts me at a grand total of 28 pounds lost since I started my first diet on 14 November, 2011.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 24, 2012, 02:50:46 PM
I know it's not good to weigh yourself more than once a day (or really once a week), but I had to take a peek just a bit ago.  I'm already underneath what I weighed in at Saturday morning.  I was at 263.8 Saturday morning and down to 263.4 Saturday night.  I'm finished with food for the night, so I'm pretty much guaranteed to lose a little bit of weight.

Depending on the quality of your scale, and if you weighed yourself in the same clothes, you do realize that that's a negligible amount of weight lost that's most likely within the margin of error of the scale.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 24, 2012, 02:53:25 PM
Although I now see you've lost more.  Good to see - keep it up! :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on July 24, 2012, 04:43:38 PM
I am in the 5th day of this Thanksgiving 2012 Diet.  I started at a weight of 263.8.  As of this morning, I am down to 257.  Nearly 7 pounds in just 4 days.  I've just been eating less.  Plain and simple.  I haven't developed or used a x-step program.  I've just been eating less.  That 257, puts me at a grand total of 28 pounds lost since I started my first diet on 14 November, 2011.

Just realize that this is likely around 90% water weight and you could be back up 5 lbs after a few glasses of water or a salty meal. This is why you shouldn't obsess on the scale.  Don't weigh yourself that often.  A real good judge of your progress is how your clothes fit.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 24, 2012, 08:50:22 PM
I am in the 5th day of this Thanksgiving 2012 Diet.  I started at a weight of 263.8.  As of this morning, I am down to 257.  Nearly 7 pounds in just 4 days.  I've just been eating less.  Plain and simple.  I haven't developed or used a x-step program.  I've just been eating less.  That 257, puts me at a grand total of 28 pounds lost since I started my first diet on 14 November, 2011.

Just realize that this is likely around 90% water weight and you could be back up 5 lbs after a few glasses of water or a salty meal. This is why you shouldn't obsess on the scale.  Don't weigh yourself that often.  A real good judge of your progress is how your clothes fit.

Good point, as important as losing weight is losing body fat is even more important.  You should be able to find a scale that measures body fat % for $30.

Also weight fluctuates during the day a it, so getting excited over a few pounds either way might not actually mean anything.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on July 24, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
Fixing your diet is the first step. To really see those pounds drop, it is imperative that you exercise. Walking for an hour a day will be a boon. Once you drop enough pounds, you could take up running to accelerate the process.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 25, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Thanks, guys!  My smaller jeans (size 38) are already fitting better.  In addition, my bigger jeans (size 40) are starting to get too big.  A few more pounds and the right/wrong circumstances, I could give my coworkers an eye full!  I'm about 20 lbs from needing to start buying size 36 jeans.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on July 25, 2012, 12:13:28 AM
Thanks, guys!  My smaller jeans (size 38) are already fitting better.  In addition, my bigger jeans (size 40) are starting to get too big.  A few more pounds and the right/wrong circumstances, I could give my coworkers an eye full!  I'm about 20 lbs from needing to start buying size 36 jeans.
Great job!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 26, 2012, 12:22:37 AM
Good Thursday Morning, folks!  As of yesterday morning, I have lost 7 1/2 pounds.  I'm down to 256.4.  I'm continuing to lose weight and I am going to keep this up all the way until at least Thanksgiving, most likely, longer.  In the near term, I'm hoping to be down to 250 by the middle of August.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 26, 2012, 12:41:38 AM
So what exactly have you done to lose weight?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 26, 2012, 12:47:15 AM

Just eating less, usually 1 1/2 meals a day.  I'll be honest, I've still had the hamburgers, but I've limited it to one per day.  I'm having a small snack when I get home from work.  Before, I would be eating probably 2 hamburgers a day and/or a large vanilla malt with one of the hamburgers.  I'm about to switch out of the hamburgers for the most part.  I wanted to do a step down into my diet instead of quitting every bad habit cold turkey.  I'll still have a hamburger once in a while, but not near as often as what I'm doing now.  I'll probably  be eating more Subway than McDonalds's if I go out.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 26, 2012, 01:33:02 PM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine. Truisms about diet and exercise don't seem to be getting the job done in the real world. Moving to a walkable neighborhood seems the most obvious, but moving is a difficult, often unrealistic, step. Surrounding one's self with others who exercise and live a healthy lifestyle seems somewhat more feasible, though still a challenge. Our behavior is heavily dependent on what we observe others doing, as we are all seeking out social cues. Any other specific suggestions? I don't have as much weight to lose as Bushie does, but I wouldn't mind dumping the spare tire either.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: ZuWo on July 26, 2012, 01:40:48 PM
You are off to a very promising start. Congratulations!
Now you have to make sure that you don't get discouraged if you experience a couple of days where your weight doesn't move downwards. It is completely normal if you are trying to lose weight and is no reason to give up and to return to your old eating habits. Indeed, if you are able to overcome such critical moments you will be on track to lose quite a bit of weight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 27, 2012, 12:00:15 AM
You are off to a very promising start. Congratulations!
Now you have to make sure that you don't get discouraged if you experience a couple of days where your weight doesn't move downwards. It is completely normal if you are trying to lose weight and is no reason to give up and to return to your old eating habits. Indeed, if you are able to overcome such critical moments you will be on track to lose quite a bit of weight.

Thanks, ZuWo!  I feel I am off to a good start.  I need to continue it, though.  I know I'll have days where I will hold steady or even gain a bit.  Those days don't bother me unless they become a trend, then I know it's time to either change what I'm doing or go back to what I was doing that saw the weight drop.  I know I'll probably gain weight in the morning, simply because I had a cheat day with my parents taking me out for Mexican.  That's okay, as I'll get back on it tomorrow and press on.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: ilikeverin on July 28, 2012, 05:22:54 AM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine.

Behaviorist?!?  Dude, go back to the 30s :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 28, 2012, 09:28:05 PM
Im on my way to losing the weight I gained on Thursday. I had gained 3 pounds on Thursday, but as of this morning, I've lost 1.5 lbs of the weight gained. I am sitting at 259.0 or 5 lbs since last Friday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on July 28, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine.

Behaviorist?!?  Dude, go back to the 30s :P
I'm no psychologist. Perhaps I used the wrong term. What I mean is what actually works to get people to change their poor habits. Just about everybody who tries to lose weight and keep it off fails. It would be nice to know how to change that beyond platitudes about eating better and being more active.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 29, 2012, 07:05:00 PM
I've been off work the past two days because I've been in excruciating pain for the past 9 days.  I'm not going to say what I have, because that's not important.  It's been extremely painful to sit, stand, or lay.  I'm going to the doctor tomorrow morning at 8:00 and see what they can do about it.  The pain is just now starting to ease up as I believe what I had is starting to go away.  Generally, the only way to get rid of this particular ailment is surgery.  So, I might be going under the knife in the near future.  I'm pretty sure I can avoid it, but there is still a chance I may be given surgery to make sure there is nothing major going on.  Your prayers and thoughts would be highly coveted as I head to the doctor tomorrow morning.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Oakvale on July 29, 2012, 08:22:57 PM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine.

Behaviorist?!?  Dude, go back to the 30s :P
I'm no psychologist. Perhaps I used the wrong term. What I mean is what actually works to get people to change their poor habits. Just about everybody who tries to lose weight and keep it off fails. It would be nice to know how to change that beyond platitudes about eating better and being more active.

The reason that happens is because people think of it as a "diet" and when they "finish", they revert back to their old terrible habits. You're not going to find someone who made a permanent lifestyle change yet magically gained back whatever weight they lost.


Oakvale's Not Very Original Generic Diet Plan For Atlas Posters

1. Add a zero to your weight. If you're 190 pounds, for example, that's 1900.

2. Eat that many calories a day.

3. Religiously count your calories for at least a month, report back.

If you don't want to feel bad you should also consider the nutrient side -


Protein: IIRC the general advice is to eat 1g of protein per pound of body weight - so in this example you'd be eating 190g of protein.

Fat: According to the internet, you should multiply your calorie goal as worked out above by 0.25, then you divide that number by 9. Eat that many grams of fat a day. Using our example, that works out to ~52 grams of fat a day.

Important - get your fats from good sources like cheese and eggs, don't pig out on a bucket of lard or something.

Carbohydrates: The general recommendation is to eat no less than 100 grams a day. Anything under can make you sluggish, although if you're going for a low-carb thing go ahead.

There's probably at least one bit of advice here that's very wrong, I'm just going from memory and some quick googling to refresh the gaps. But stick to this and you will lose weight. It's mathematics. :)

EDIT: Due to the curse of water retention, there'll be days and weeks where you plateau. That's normal, don't give up. It'll sort itself out. You're still losing fat, it's just being hidden. Also, drink water. Tons of water.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 30, 2012, 10:47:33 AM
I'm home from the doctor's office.  It's looking like I'll need surgery.  He's given me some medicine to help out in the mean time, but it's looking very likely I will be going to the Indian Clinic in Ada, Oklahoma this Friday, 3 August 2012 to have the surgery done outpatiently.  At least this surgery will cost me nothing as far as money is concerned.  As far as it being pain free?  Forget about it.  There is an oldie's song entitled See You in September that may fit this criteria...  I could be doped up on pain meds for a while. :(


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 30, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
Well we hope you get better......does this now kill Xerox?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 30, 2012, 11:10:14 AM
This doesn't kill Xerox as I talked to my supervisor this morning and updated her on the situation and she said I can combine a string of however many consecutive days I miss into just one occurrence (or point).  I have 4 points to play with, so this will just be 1 point even if heaven forbid I have to miss the first half of August.  She told me my job is guaranteed when I get back.

However, there is a dead rat starting to smell about Xerox, but has nothing to do with my illness, but that story is for a little later.

Stay tuned - there is about to be yet another twist on this Update thread - the writers are gathering their sources and information.  The twist could come later today or it could come in the next few days.

Geez, this Update thread has more twists than all the seasons of Big Brother has ever had... combined...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on July 30, 2012, 12:52:48 PM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine.
Yeah. Lay off the fried food and fast food (except maybe Subway), drink coffee in the morning and UNSWEETENED green tea in the afternoon, and have fruit or a salad with every meal. 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 30, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine.
Yeah. Lay off the fried food and fast food (except maybe Subway), drink coffee in the morning and UNSWEETENED green tea in the afternoon, and have fruit or a salad with every meal. 

I'll be doing most of this with the specialized diet I'm needing to go on for this condition.  I'll need a high fiber diet with a lot of fruits and vegetables and calorie free lemon lime soda (Sprite Zero)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Yelnoc on July 30, 2012, 07:34:12 PM
Does anybody know if there has been any behaviorist work on what makes for an effective and sustainable weight loss routine.
Yeah. Lay off the fried food and fast food (except maybe Subway), drink coffee in the morning and UNSWEETENED green tea in the afternoon, and have fruit or a salad with every meal. 
Try running a lot.  Like...5 miles a day.  Keeps the pounds off, I'll tell ya.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on July 30, 2012, 10:18:06 PM
So like what you have shingles or the piles now...? You were presumably healthy enough to tell us about going out for Mexican food but miss work for extended periods.  You just make no sense whatsoever and this fits your pattern. Didnt you also have had a heart attack but were perfectly fine enough to post on this forum without a peep.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 30, 2012, 10:37:39 PM
No, Patrick, I'm going to be very blunt with this and hope I don’t get called down for being too personal.  I have an external hemorrhoid.  I have been in such severe pain for the past 11 days and it was a struggle making it through work last week.  I finally had to break down and call the doctor on Friday to get an appointment for this morning.  I was in so much pain just from sitting on my bottom that I couldn’t go to work Saturday or Sunday.  I went to the doctor this morning and he gave me some medicine to help get rid of it and told me to stay off it as much as I can the rest of this week.  He also said that this medicine may not work and that I will probably need to go to the Emergency Room at the Indian Hospital in Ada, Oklahoma to get this lanced and drained.  I initially thought he meant full hemorrhoid surgery which would have likely put me on the shelf until at least September, possibly October.  Then, I remembered what he did say (after I posted earlier today) which was lancing and draining which may shelve for no more than another week instead of a month or longer.  The surgery is still a possibility depending on several factors and the doctor did caution me that it may be needed down the road at some point because this draining is only temporary, not a permanent solution like the surgery is.  There is a good chance they will come back at some point, but I’m still not sure it’s worth being in excruciating pain for an entire month or longer and missing work for nearly a month.  It’s a decision I’ll have to weigh when and if the time comes.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 30, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
I know everybody is dying to hear what the breaking news and the new twist is all about.  Xerox is jacking with my pay.  When I accepted the job, it was on the notion that I would get $10.00 an hour the first 60 days and then $12.00 an hour after, not great but manageable.  They did not tell me that I have to work up to both amounts.  I’ve been looking at my pay stubs the past month and a half and I have been getting $9.25 an hour.  I’ve been told by numerous sources that the base pay will actually DROP to $8.75 an hour after the 60 days.  I can work up to $12.00 an hour or even up to $13.75, but it would never be consistent and I could make $9.50 one pay period, $12.45 the next, $11.25 the next one after that.  The customers would directly control my pay.  If a customer has a bad day when they fill out the survey, I could literally lose money.  Not only that, but I’ve been there 7 weeks and have only accrued 6.74 hours of leave.  I have to take this illness all unpaid.  If that weren’t enough, the supervisory positions they are offering are rigged.  They already have the selections made before they conduct the first interview.  So, based on that, I’m still at Xerox right now, but I am looking around and I am now looking outside the call center and outside Oklahoma.  This may have to put my Kenya plans on hold for a while, but I’ve got to do what’s best for me right now, not worry about what’s going to happen 2 ½ years from now.  One of the places I’m looking is Salt Lake City.  We have a couple former posters who live in Utah, namely TexasIndy and Jamespol and I am going to get them started looking with me for IT jobs in and around Salt Lake City.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on July 30, 2012, 11:35:28 PM
Immigrate to Sweden.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 31, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
Wait jamespol lives in Salt Lake City now???


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 12:37:38 AM
Wait jamespol lives in Salt Lake City now???

In the metro, yes.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on July 31, 2012, 12:38:12 AM
Okay, this is getting pretty interesting again.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 01:01:03 AM
Okay, this is getting pretty interesting again.

Like I said it has more twists than a full season of Big Brother!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MasterJedi on July 31, 2012, 07:29:41 AM
Makes me feel better about my own job at Northwestern Mutual's call center. I get $17.31 an hour.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on July 31, 2012, 09:52:34 AM

$9.25 per hour would make you J. Paul Getty there :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on July 31, 2012, 11:12:57 AM
Are we talking wages now? Mine works out to $22.75 an hour.

Okay, this is getting pretty interesting again.

Like I said it has more twists than a full season of Big Brother!!

Your life should not have plot twists. Your should be constant and follow an unyielding pattern. Get up, run, shower, eat, go to work, eat lunch, go back to work, run some more, eat dinner, do something cultural, repeat again. You keep on doing the same thing over and over. You do not leave your job, you do not take foreign adventures. You stay put, and maybe, just maybe, they'll leave you be.

I don't know if you're serious or if this whole thing is some longstanding work of fiction, but you take what life gives you and you cope. You cope and hope that constancy will lead to betterment, the gradual accumulation of experience and respect at a steady rate. You are conscious, which is good. Avoid further exploitation and just stay where you are.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 02:26:57 PM
There is promising news on the Salt Lake City front.  There is a job in SLC that would pay a lot higher than what I'm making now.  It's not a call center, thankfully.  The position would pay $33,000 with benefits starting after 90 days and normal working hours - 8:00 am - 5:30 pm Monday-Friday.  That is $15,000 a year more than I'm making now.  I'm going to discuss it with my parents here in a couple hours or so and get their input.  I'm not necessarily looking for their permission, I'm looking for their blessing and advice and help.  I have until next Tuesday, 7 August 2012 to make my decision.  This position would start on Monday, 1 October 2012 so it gives me time to wrap things up here and get up there.  I haven't fully made my mind up, yet, but I'm getting close.  Kenya may have to be put on the back burner for a little bit.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 31, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
The Kenya trip will have to wait until...what...2017 now? That'll be here in no time.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on July 31, 2012, 02:57:42 PM
I think mine turn up to be like.. $31 an hour or so. It's hard to tell with any commissions or bonus.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 31, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
You're making $18,000 a year now? Is that even above poverty level?

The problem is that every time you take a job, you decide to go on extended vacations or have some medical problem pop up where you take 2-3 weeks off. I think you desperately need to get away from your parents/Oklahoma, but I wouldn't be surprised if your performances at your past jobs hurt you. I wonder what the law is in OK when someone does a reference check. Do they discuss performance or just confirm you worked there?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on July 31, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
Bushie, load up on food stamps and think about the earned income tax credit that you will be getting. In the meantime, take a book keeping class.  You do that, and you will be in the hunt for making $20 an hour.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 07:22:49 PM
You're making $18,000 a year now? Is that even above poverty level?

The problem is that every time you take a job, you decide to go on extended vacations or have some medical problem pop up where you take 2-3 weeks off. I think you desperately need to get away from your parents/Oklahoma, but I wouldn't be surprised if your performances at your past jobs hurt you. I wonder what the law is in OK when someone does a reference check. Do they discuss performance or just confirm you worked there?

$8.75/hr is $18,200/yr.  I agree with you for the most part.  I have accepted this position in Salt Lake City, Utah and will be leaving Oklahoma City on Thursday, August 30, 2012 to move there.  I don't start work until Monday, October 1, 2012, but this gives me a month to get acclimated to the new climate and find my way around a little better without having to rush right to work.

The law in Oklahoma is that employers can only confirm that you worked there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 31, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
Damn it! I was just about to tell everyone to see his Facebook status and then he goes and breaks the news here. :(


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 31, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
What?!? You're moving to Utah?? Holy crap. Who saw this one coming that fast?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on July 31, 2012, 08:06:58 PM
Intrade odds on Bushie converting to Mormonism within 2 years?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 08:36:17 PM
Intrade odds on Bushie converting to Mormonism within 2 years?


Non-existent


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on July 31, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
Intrade odds on Bushie converting to Mormonism within 2 years?


42


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 31, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
BushUT?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 31, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
Intrade odds on Bushie converting to Mormonism within 2 years?


First thing I thought of when I heard the news.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 31, 2012, 09:05:35 PM
So wait. This place just offered a job to Bushie in SLC without interviewing him or anything? Just agreed to hire on this guy from a bit far away like that? Does this sound rather familiar to anyone else?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 31, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
So wait. This place just offered a job to Bushie in SLC without interviewing him or anything? Just agreed to hire on this guy from a bit far away like that? Does this sound rather familiar to anyone else?

Yeah, I was about to say... this sounds incredibly fishy. You don't just make a call and suddenly get a $33,000 a year job.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 31, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
Oh no. Did you interview for this, BushKE? Or did you fill out a resume and they just called and accepted you?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 31, 2012, 09:25:55 PM
In regards to him converting to Mormonism, it's not really any less likely than I would've said the odds would be in 2010 of me going to a church in the next two years with faith healing rituals and where the pastor once preached while holding a snake. And Bushie is obviously easily led so...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 31, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
ah... well, this can ONLY go well.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 31, 2012, 09:41:05 PM
Hey remember my screenplay I was talking about writing? I guess the protagonist moving to SLC could be the sequel!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 31, 2012, 09:54:43 PM
Hey remember my screenplay I was talking about writing? I guess the protagonist moving to SLC could be the sequel!

You ever gonna get this project off the ground?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on July 31, 2012, 10:02:00 PM
So now he becomes a Mormon! We have our next arc! Good grief...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 10:16:27 PM
Oh no. Did you interview for this, BushKE? Or did you fill out a resume and they just called and accepted you?

I interviewed for it last week face to face in Oklahoma City.  I've known about this for at least a couple weeks, but I wanted to keep the cards close to my chest and didn't want to reveal them before I knew absolutely sure.  There are still a couple details that need to be ironed out, mainly timing, but we'll get that sorted out within the next week or sooner.

No, this was not a call and accept job, this was an actual face-to-face interview from the guys in Salt Lake City when they were visiting Oklahoma City.

There were actually four slots open in different locations - Salt Lake City, Utah; Portland, Oregon; Lexington, Kentucky; and Raleigh, North Carolina.  They gave me a choice and I picked SLC because I've never been west of I-25 and always wanted to go out that direction, but didn't want to pay the astronomical cost of living in Portland.  Plus, the Wasatch Mountains can't be anything but beautiful!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 31, 2012, 10:21:37 PM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 31, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 31, 2012, 11:13:44 PM
I feel somewhat more comfortable if you had a face to face interview and it's with the same company. Should've moved to Raleigh though. East coast > West Coast


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 11:16:53 PM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 11:18:04 PM
I feel somewhat more comfortable if you had a face to face interview and it's with the same company. Should've moved to Raleigh though. East coast > West Coast

Salt Lake City has a lot less humidity and allergies should be a whole lot better!  Plus, I would love to see the Wasatch Mountains outside my window!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on July 31, 2012, 11:29:41 PM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.

What are you going to do with your home?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on July 31, 2012, 11:38:12 PM
I feel somewhat more comfortable if you had a face to face interview and it's with the same company. Should've moved to Raleigh though. East coast > West Coast
Hell no. Now that Bushie is moving to SLC he might be able to get his health under control and enjoy a healthy lifestyle though. Off course Portland would be better, but it might be more of BRTD kind of city.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smid on July 31, 2012, 11:47:50 PM
Good luck with the move! It's a big step to be leaving your family and personal connections and moving interstate for a fresh job. I did that a few years back and it was very daunting, but it ended up being about the best thing I've ever done.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 11:50:13 PM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.

What are you going to do with your home?

I'm actually going to keep it for another year.  I want to have a safety net just in case things were to fail up there, especially with it being so far away and no family up there except for a great uncle whom I have only met one time in my entire life.  I don't anticipate that happening, but I want a safety net and a home to come back to just in case.  I will probably put the house on the market next Fall.  I've poured over my finances quite extensively this evening and I should be able to swing rent and a mortgage.  I'm going to transfer the utilites to my mother and dad and they're going to pay for those as they will checking on the house from time to time.  As far as my cat goes, I'll have to find him a new home.  I've got someone in mind that I'm going to ask first.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on July 31, 2012, 11:51:44 PM
I feel somewhat more comfortable if you had a face to face interview and it's with the same company. Should've moved to Raleigh though. East coast > West Coast
Hell no. Now that Bushie is moving to SLC he might be able to get his health under control and enjoy a healthy lifestyle though. Off course Portland would be better, but it might be more of BRTD kind of city.

That is a BIG plus.  I've never been to Utah, but it doesn't strike me as fast-food filled town.  Sure there are probably fast food joints, but its probably not the main meal like it is in most of the South.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on July 31, 2012, 11:59:26 PM
I feel somewhat more comfortable if you had a face to face interview and it's with the same company. Should've moved to Raleigh though. East coast > West Coast
Hell no. Now that Bushie is moving to SLC he might be able to get his health under control and enjoy a healthy lifestyle though. Off course Portland would be better, but it might be more of BRTD kind of city.


That is a BIG plus.  I've never been to Utah, but it doesn't strike me as fast-food filled town.  Sure there are probably fast food joints, but its probably not the main meal like it is in most of the South.
I was thinking about how the weather is pretty nice for 10 months of the year there, and you can escape the heat in the summer by going to the hills and hiking/walking there, that should help you a lot with weight loss.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 01, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Wait, so you own a house in OK, and you're (at least initially) going to have it sit empty, with no one living there?

Also, what will your health insurance situation be in UT?  No more free Native American medicine?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 01, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
I thought you were certain that God was telling you to go to Kenya in 2013.  So... what happened with that?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 12:23:59 AM
Wait, so you own a house in OK, and you're (at least initially) going to have it sit empty, with no one living there?

Also, what will your health insurance situation be in UT?  No more free Native American medicine?


My mother and dad will check on the house each week and do maintenance as needed.

I will have benefits after 90 days, and i will have a doctor in Salt Lake for minor illnesses, but I will also fly back to Oklahoma once a year and go to the Indian Doctor for a full checkup.  In the mean time, I'm going to have my mother pick up my prescriptions every 90 days and mail them to me.  I can still get free medicine except for those prescribed in Utah.  I'm going to visit my doctor one more time before I leave and see if I can get a 90-day supply of my medicine and allow my mother to pick them up.

Inks, things change.  Kenya is still in the picture, but I have to do what I need to do now.  Kenya will be pushed back a few years.  As far as going this next March,  that's not gonna happen.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 01, 2012, 12:26:32 AM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.

What are you going to do with your home?

I'm actually going to keep it for another year.  I want to have a safety net just in case things were to fail up there, especially with it being so far away and no family up there except for a great uncle whom I have only met one time in my entire life.  I don't anticipate that happening, but I want a safety net and a home to come back to just in case.  I will probably put the house on the market next Fall.  I've poured over my finances quite extensively this evening and I should be able to swing rent and a mortgage.  I'm going to transfer the utilites to my mother and dad and they're going to pay for those as they will checking on the house from time to time.  As far as my cat goes, I'll have to find him a new home.  I've got someone in mind that I'm going to ask first.

You need to be really careful here.  As someone who works in the industry I can tell you here are very few things that can screw up your credit worse than missing a mortgage payment.

Now I know you have claimed you went over your finances extensively, but your history on this is a bit suspect.  I know the costs are far cheaper where you are and in Utah than anything I am use to, but a mortgage and rent on $33k a year (if that is even true), doesn't seem to fit.


Anyway I have a few questions for you

1.  What do you owe on your mortgage?

2.  What do you think your home is worth?

3.  What is your mtg payment? (including escrows, or what is the taxes and ins if no escrow)

4.  How much do you think you would be able to rent for in SLC?  


If you don't want to answer this on the board, fine, I can certainly understand s its personal financial info (though you have given out just about everything else on here), but you really need to sit down and think this through rather than making any rash decisions.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 01, 2012, 12:29:30 AM
Things change.  God doesn't.  You were telling us you knew that God was telling you - that he spoke to you.  God's spoken words don't change.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 12:43:11 AM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.

What are you going to do with your home?

I'm actually going to keep it for another year.  I want to have a safety net just in case things were to fail up there, especially with it being so far away and no family up there except for a great uncle whom I have only met one time in my entire life.  I don't anticipate that happening, but I want a safety net and a home to come back to just in case.  I will probably put the house on the market next Fall.  I've poured over my finances quite extensively this evening and I should be able to swing rent and a mortgage.  I'm going to transfer the utilites to my mother and dad and they're going to pay for those as they will checking on the house from time to time.  As far as my cat goes, I'll have to find him a new home.  I've got someone in mind that I'm going to ask first.

You need to be really careful here.  As someone who works in the industry I can tell you here are very few things that can screw up your credit worse than missing a mortgage payment.

Now I know you have claimed you went over your finances extensively, but your history on this is a bit suspect.  I know the costs are far cheaper where you are and in Utah than anything I am use to, but a mortgage and rent on $33k a year (if that is even true), doesn't seem to fit.


Anyway I have a few questions for you

1.  What do you owe on your mortgage?

2.  What do you think your home is worth?

3.  What is your mtg payment? (including escrows, or what is the taxes and ins if no escrow)

4.  How much do you think you would be able to rent for in SLC? 


If you don't want to answer this on the board, fine, I can certainly understand s its personal financial info (though you have given out just about everything else on here), but you really need to sit down and think this through rather than making any rash decisions.

I'm not going to reveal my answers here, but just know that my mother and I are taking all these questions into account and we're both going to sit down together probably this afternoon (Wednesday) or tomorrow (Thursday) and go over them together.  It would be a very tight squeeze, but I can do it, because I'm going to pay off one credit card entirely before I leave and get ready to start paying down the other.  That is a risk, I will agree, but I would rather take that risk and have a safety net in place just in case things fail.  I remember what happened in Dallas in Spring 2008.  The job turned out to be a bait and switch and I ended up coming back to Oklahoma City after just 2 months.  I'm well aware of that, so with that in mind, I'm also going to make absolutely sure that this is still going to happen the way they say.  I'm going to get it in writing complete with salary.  I've got several phone calls to make today to confirm several things.  One of which is the timing, which based on new information last evening while I was at my parents discussing it, I got an email tweaking the timing just a bit.  As of now, it turns out I will be ending my Xerox-Oklahoma City Tenure on August 15 and will be departing Oklahoma City on Thursday, August 23 with the start date no later than October 1.  I can start any Monday in September I want to, but no later than October 1.  They are giving me a lot of flexibility here and I'm going to take advantage of it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 01, 2012, 12:57:03 AM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.

What are you going to do with your home?

I'm actually going to keep it for another year.  I want to have a safety net just in case things were to fail up there, especially with it being so far away and no family up there except for a great uncle whom I have only met one time in my entire life.  I don't anticipate that happening, but I want a safety net and a home to come back to just in case.  I will probably put the house on the market next Fall.  I've poured over my finances quite extensively this evening and I should be able to swing rent and a mortgage.  I'm going to transfer the utilites to my mother and dad and they're going to pay for those as they will checking on the house from time to time.  As far as my cat goes, I'll have to find him a new home.  I've got someone in mind that I'm going to ask first.

You need to be really careful here.  As someone who works in the industry I can tell you here are very few things that can screw up your credit worse than missing a mortgage payment.

Now I know you have claimed you went over your finances extensively, but your history on this is a bit suspect.  I know the costs are far cheaper where you are and in Utah than anything I am use to, but a mortgage and rent on $33k a year (if that is even true), doesn't seem to fit.


Anyway I have a few questions for you

1.  What do you owe on your mortgage?

2.  What do you think your home is worth?

3.  What is your mtg payment? (including escrows, or what is the taxes and ins if no escrow)

4.  How much do you think you would be able to rent for in SLC? 


If you don't want to answer this on the board, fine, I can certainly understand s its personal financial info (though you have given out just about everything else on here), but you really need to sit down and think this through rather than making any rash decisions.

I'm not going to reveal my answers here, but just know that my mother and I are taking all these questions into account and we're both going to sit down together probably this afternoon (Wednesday) or tomorrow (Thursday) and go over them together.  It would be a very tight squeeze, but I can do it, because I'm going to pay off one credit card entirely before I leave and get ready to start paying down the other.  That is a risk, I will agree, but I would rather take that risk and have a safety net in place just in case things fail.  I remember what happened in Dallas in Spring 2008.  The job turned out to be a bait and switch and I ended up coming back to Oklahoma City after just 2 months.  I'm well aware of that, so with that in mind, I'm also going to make absolutely sure that this is still going to happen the way they say.  I'm going to get it in writing complete with salary.  I've got several phone calls to make today to confirm several things.  One of which is the timing, which based on new information last evening while I was at my parents discussing it, I got an email tweaking the timing just a bit.  As of now, it turns out I will be ending my Xerox-Oklahoma City Tenure on August 15 and will be departing Oklahoma City on Thursday, August 23 with the start date no later than October 1.  I can start any Monday in September I want to, but no later than October 1.  They are giving me a lot of flexibility here and I'm going to take advantage of it.


After doing some quick calculations, based off what you would make, what comes out fir federal and state withholding and what not, considering you are single with no dependents you would clear approx $2,200  month after taxes, that number would drop a bit once the benefits kick in and you start paying for that.  You could technically have less withheld, but that wouldn't be smart since you would wind up owing that anyway.

I find it extremely difficult anyone can handle a mortgage and rent when they are only clearing $2,200 a month


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on August 01, 2012, 01:05:17 AM
What type of job is it?  What are you going to do about housing?

It is a supervisor position with Xerox.  The pay screw up was more Apple's fault than Xerox.  As far as housing goes, I'm aiming for a furnished, efficiency apartment.  I'm going to try to avoid having to hire movers, so I'm going to travel light.

Wait, so you were just complaining about being misled about how you were being paid and the process being rigged and now you are moving to another part of the country to tale a job with the same company that just misled you??

When I take a step back, I think it was more Apple that rigged the pay and not Xerox, because in the same building in OKC, US Cellular offers their workers a flat $9.50 in training and $10.00 after.  I don't hold Xerox responsible.  As far as the rigging, I obviously don't think that now.

What are you going to do with your home?

I'm actually going to keep it for another year.  I want to have a safety net just in case things were to fail up there, especially with it being so far away and no family up there except for a great uncle whom I have only met one time in my entire life.  I don't anticipate that happening, but I want a safety net and a home to come back to just in case.  I will probably put the house on the market next Fall.  I've poured over my finances quite extensively this evening and I should be able to swing rent and a mortgage.  I'm going to transfer the utilites to my mother and dad and they're going to pay for those as they will checking on the house from time to time.  As far as my cat goes, I'll have to find him a new home.  I've got someone in mind that I'm going to ask first.

Why don't you rent out your home?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 01, 2012, 01:33:06 AM

Yeah, why not approach a rental company, and see if you can get them to rent out your OK house for you (I assume that would be a lot more manageable than handling it yourself, if you'll be in a different state)?

Also, Obamacare's provisions for pre-existing conditions haven't kicked in yet, have they?  Since you were saying that you might need surgery in the near future, is your health insurance at your new job actually going to cover that?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 01:44:48 AM
I'm considering renting the house to help with the cost, but I'm not really fond of the idea.  The way I'm feeling now, I will be able to avoid the surgery altogether and won't even have to go down to Ada at all.  The hemorrhoid is pretty much gone or at least is not bothersome anymore.

I've already got my itinerary mapped out for the drive up there and according to Google Maps, the best way to go is up through Denver and southern Wyoming and enter Utah from the Northeast.  I'm going to leave OKC on Thursday, August 23 and I'm going to try to leave at 5:00 am and try to spend the night on the north side of Denver so I can avoid the Friday morning rush hour.  That would make a 12 hour day on Thursday and an 8 hour day on Friday with stops factored in.  If you guys know of a better way that's mostly interstate, let me know.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 01, 2012, 03:21:03 AM
I'm considering renting the house to help with the cost, but I'm not really fond of the idea. 

Look, to be blunt here, maintaining homes in two separate states like you're suggesting is just utterly ridiculous on your salary.  You should just pick one or the other city to live in and maintain one home there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: ilikeverin on August 01, 2012, 04:33:33 AM
Your life should not have plot twists. Your should be constant and follow an unyielding pattern. Get up, run, shower, eat, go to work, eat lunch, go back to work, run some more, eat dinner, do something cultural, repeat again. You keep on doing the same thing over and over. You do not leave your job, you do not take foreign adventures. You stay put, and maybe, just maybe, they'll leave you be.

Hahaha, oh my god, that was the exact opposite of the advice you want to be giving to someone with OCPD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_personality_disorder).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 01, 2012, 04:59:58 AM
What happened to the money mentioned in this dangling plot thread?:

It is official!  At 19:59 CDT Wednesday, 16 May 2012, my trip to the Republic of Kenya in March 2013 has been PAID IN FULL!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 05:04:19 AM
What happened to the money mentioned in this dangling plot thread?:

It is official!  At 19:59 CDT Wednesday, 16 May 2012, my trip to the Republic of Kenya in March 2013 has been PAID IN FULL!!

I'll get it back.  I'm going to call Maisha this morning and get the money refunded.  They will get with the donor if they want the money back or what.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 01, 2012, 05:30:37 AM
Bushie, you need to think about your sons in Kenya! Looks like they are going to have to grow up without their daddy around now. :(


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on August 01, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
Things change.  God doesn't.  You were telling us you knew that God was telling you - that he spoke to you.  God's spoken words don't change.

What are you trying to accomplish, Inks?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on August 01, 2012, 08:18:53 AM
I'm considering renting the house to help with the cost, but I'm not really fond of the idea..

No one likes or enjoys renting out their property. It's the cash flow that makes it compelling because otherwise you can't afford to maintain two properties.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 01, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
Things change.  God doesn't.  You were telling us you knew that God was telling you - that he spoke to you.  God's spoken words don't change.

What are you trying to accomplish, Inks?

Mockery.....shame Mik won't slap him with quick 10 death point barage.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 01, 2012, 08:30:26 AM
Things change.  God doesn't.  You were telling us you knew that God was telling you - that he spoke to you.  God's spoken words don't change.

What are you trying to accomplish, Inks?

Mockery.....shame Mik won't slap him with quick 10 death point barage.


Why would he? He's just mentioning what Bushie has already told us.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on August 01, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I've had several jobs in my life. Plenty have been crappy, low wage service jobs. None have been "bait and switch." I don't understand where he keeps finding these defective jobs. And while my math skills are quite rudimentary, it's pretty clear his financials don't add up. But, whatever. I'll suspend my disbelief. I enjoy the narrative as much as everybody else.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 01, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
Jeff..I know you're nervous about possibly renting out your house, but perhaps you could speak to your church about someone who might need it on a month to month basis. That way, you've got someone who you might feel comfortable with living there and helping you with the bills. If things fail in Utah and you move back, worse thing that happens is you live with your parents for a few weeks until they've moved out, and you're back in your house.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 01, 2012, 01:39:14 PM
Definitely rent the house. Leaving a house vacant only leads to problems. My grandfather has his old home in North Carolina that he refuses to rent and it costs him $25,000 a year to maintain with all the problems and the like that goes on. If you're making only $33,000 a year, I doubt you will be able to maintain two properties, and it would be selfish to ask your parents to foot the bill yet again for it because you're too afraid to make a full jump to Utah.

Don't go out there expecting to fail or keeping a safety net. The best way to go it is to go and make the best of it, whatever happens will happen and you will learn from it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 01, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
Definitely rent the house. Leaving a house vacant only leads to problems. My grandfather has his old home in North Carolina that he refuses to rent and it costs him $25,000 a year to maintain with all the problems and the like that goes on. If you're making only $33,000 a year, I doubt you will be able to maintain two properties, and it would be selfish to ask your parents to foot the bill yet again for it because you're too afraid to make a full jump to Utah.

Don't go out there expecting to fail or keeping a safety net. The best way to go it is to go and make the best of it, whatever happens will happen and you will learn from it.

I couldn't agree with this more. Of course, I wasn't dependent on my parents before I moved out of Connecticut, but now that I'm in Texas, I'm even more independent now than I was before. This move to Utah will help you grow up quite a bit. But seriously, don't leave your house vacant. You simply can't afford rent in Utah, and to pay mortgage, and your utilities in Oklahoma at that pay. I'm sure there is a family from your church who could use a house for a few months, and you could use the money, especially with your pay now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 01, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
Utah is a nice place.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 01, 2012, 04:37:01 PM
I don't get the fear of renting out your house Bushie. Heck, I rent out lots of properties. Plus the rent you get will be largely tax sheltered by the depreciation that you can take, plus the tenant will be paying for utilities and taking care of the yard (put that in your lease, the duty of the tenant to maintain the yard, and if he doesn't, send in a gardener and charge him for it). 5K or 6K a year after tax is a big number for you. Anything that  I don't have rented out, and am not otherwise using, I get antsy about the opportunity cost involved.

But it won't be the first decision of yours that has baffled me. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 01, 2012, 06:59:43 PM
Things change.  God doesn't.  You were telling us you knew that God was telling you - that he spoke to you.  God's spoken words don't change.

What are you trying to accomplish, Inks?

Mockery.....shame Mik won't slap him with quick 10 death point barage.

Not at all.  I'm genuinely curious how Jeff can rationalize that he heard God tell him to go to Kenya and that was what God wanted him to do, just to turn around and not go to Kenya.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 07:25:56 PM
Things have changed a bit.  I am going to be keeping the utilities of the house (~$150) and will be leasing it out on a month to month basis. I am having them pay the mortgage and I'll pay the utilities.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 01, 2012, 10:42:48 PM
Things have changed a bit.  I am going to be keeping the utilities of the house (~$150) and will be leasing it out on a month to month basis. I am having them pay the mortgage and I'll pay the utilities.

Does the rent you can get for the property cover the mortgage?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 11:11:09 PM
Things have changed a bit.  I am going to be keeping the utilities of the house (~$150) and will be leasing it out on a month to month basis. I am having them pay the mortgage and I'll pay the utilities.

Does the rent you can get for the property cover the mortgage?

The vast majority of it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 01, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Okay, folks.  Here is the final timeline for the big move.  I will turn in my formal acceptance letter to my supervisor on Saturday and at the same time turn in my Oklahoma City badge.  Then, I will sleep in my house for the last time on the night of! Wednesday, August 15 and spend the next four nights at my parents house.  Mom and I will leave her house bound for Midvale, Utah where the apartment is located at 4:30 am CDT on Monday, August 20, 2012.  We are going to stop for the night in Ft Collins, Colorado.  We will get up and leave Ft Collins at 7:00 am MDT on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 and hope to arrive in Midvale, Utah by 14:00.  We will probably get a room that night and move into the apartment on Wednesday, August 22, 2012.  My father will rent an SUV and leave Oklahoma on Friday, August 24, 2012.  When he arrives we'll probably eat dinner and relax the rest of the evening.  We'll finish moving stuff in oln Sunday and Monday, August 26-27, 2012 before Mom and Dad head back to Oklahoma on Tuesday, August 28, 2012.  That may be the last I see of them in 2012.  I'm expecting to spend Thanksgiving and Christmas at home.  I report to work on Monday, September 17, 2012.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 02, 2012, 08:45:56 AM
Glad to hear you doing this Jeff. It's a big step in really growing up. You'll find life is really different when you put this kind of distance between you and your family. Don't get me wrong, I miss my family and friends back in Connecitcut and now Pennsylvania,... But I'm loving making a new life for myself.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Glad to hear you doing this Jeff. It's a big step in really growing up. You'll find life is really different when you put this kind of distance between you and your family. Don't get me wrong, I miss my family and friends back in Connecitcut and now Pennsylvania,... But I'm loving making a new life for myself.

Thanks, Andrew!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 03:57:32 PM
Here is some excellent news!  My Supervisor in Salt Lake City called me about 1:00 pm today and wanted to make sure I was still on board.  I replied in the affirmative.  He also said he wants to meet with me in person the week I get there, probably on August 22 or 23 so he can get to know me and I can get to know him and so I'll know where to report when the time comes.  I thought that was very courteous of him to reach out to me and want to meet me in person when i get there.  The job is guaranteed, he just wants to know who he's working with.

I've got the movers scheduled and the apartment almost reserved.  I am filling out the apartment application now and will scan that in within the next hour.  The application should be approved by Monday or Tuesday.  The movers are going to pick my furniture up on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 and deliver it as early as Tuesday, August 21, 2012.  So, with that said, my mother and I are going to leave Oklahoma City on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 4:30 am CDT and get to Utah around 1:00-2:00 pm MDT on Monday, August 20, 2012.  We're going to go ahead and lease the apartment that evening so we can be there in case the movers show up on Tuesday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 02, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
You are leaving at 4:30 in the morning?  Is that a normal time for you to do things, Bushok?  I'm usually going to bed about that time (it is 4:00 AM now).  



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 02, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
That's what I always did when I have a long ride or move. Leave at 4 or so in the morning, that way you can get a few hours on the road before any potential traffic.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 02, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
Bushie should now adopt an orphaned Mormon child. Aww.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 04:47:29 PM
Bushie should now adopt an orphaned Mormon child. Aww.

I'm sorry that just made me LOL. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
It turns out my father will be staying here and not coming with my mother and me.  We probably will not need his SUV, as we can get everything else in the movers truck or my Nissan Sentra.  This trip is already going to be expensive with me being out of work now until I actually start work and paying for the movers and the motel and the apartment and the gas and food.  If we can cut costs by not renting an SUV and letting Mom fly home after we're done moving things in, then that'll be wonderful.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 02, 2012, 10:17:01 PM
It turns out my father will be staying here and not coming with my mother and me.  We probably will not need his SUV, as we can get everything else in the movers truck or my Nissan Sentra.  This trip is already going to be expensive with me being out of work now until I actually start work and paying for the movers and the motel and the apartment and the gas and food.  If we can cut costs by not renting an SUV and letting Mom fly home after we're done moving things in, then that'll be wonderful.

Where's  he going to live? They're separating?!

Also, I'm about 60 pages into the second Update. Oh my God, Bushie. I now see the futility of this. You are beyond help.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
It turns out my father will be staying here and not coming with my mother and me.  We probably will not need his SUV, as we can get everything else in the movers truck or my Nissan Sentra.  This trip is already going to be expensive with me being out of work now until I actually start work and paying for the movers and the motel and the apartment and the gas and food.  If we can cut costs by not renting an SUV and letting Mom fly home after we're done moving things in, then that'll be wonderful.

Where's  he going to live? They're separating?

I will live in Salt Lake City, my parents will continue to live in Oklahoma City for at least a few more years

EDIT:  My mother will fly back to the Oklahoma City Airport after the movers come and go in Salt Lake City.  She's driving up with me and then flying home where Dad will pick her up.

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Also, I'm about 60 pages into the second Update. Oh my God, Bushie. I now see the futility of this. You are beyond help.

Keep reading, my friend...  It only gets more futile. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 02, 2012, 11:04:39 PM
Are you going to evangelize to Mormons?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 11:07:56 PM
It's also interesting to note that the company my Dad works for has a branch in Ogden, Utah which is 40-45 miles north of Salt Lake City.  He has been out there on numerous occasions over the 13 years he's worked for this company.  They like him so well in Ogden that they have flat told him that anytime he wants to move to Ogden he's more than welcome.  He told them that he had two anchors in Oklahoma City preventing him from moving, one was his mother-in-law and one was his younger son (me).  Well, now, the second anchor is moving to Salt Lake City.  We have discussed, though not near decided, that when his mother-in-law passes away that he and mom might move themselves to Ogden.  Naturally, he's not rushing her along by any means, but it is something they are thinking about as she is 86 years old.  He is 60 and Mom will be 60 on October 8.  I have a sneaking suspicion I might see them in Utah before they reach 70.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 02, 2012, 11:12:26 PM

I am going to be a witness to them, but I'm not going to force my beliefs down their throat.  I will not convert to a Mormon and will stay a Southern Baptist.  The way I see it is I'm a newbie coming to their area, so what place do I have to come in and turn everything upside down?  I found out that the NBC affiliate in Salt Lake City is owned by the LDS Church.  I will not stop watching NBC because of that because if I do there are probably hundreds of other entities that are owned by the same and if I wanted to apply the same standard across the board by not watching or attending to such items then I might as well keep the television off and stay home.  I'm going to watch Utah football, Utah State football, maybe even BYU football.  I'm going to watch Utah Jazz basketball (while rooting for the OKC Thunder, of course!).  I'm going to try to engage with the culture as much as I can without becoming a Mormon.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 03, 2012, 03:29:18 AM
I'm reminded of this post:

Same as with the Black man he supported for President four years ago, so I would suppose so. >:D

Let me clarify.  I would let him step into my home on Presidential/cordial terms, not as a Mormon trying to convert me.  The moment he starts trying to convert me, I would show him the door.

I would enjoy having President Obama in my home, because there is at least a chance he is a Christian, nobody knows for sure.  Romney is definitely not a Christian, he's a Mormon (I'm not going to get into the differences at this time).

My vote for President Romney is not about his religious beliefs, because I think he will keep them separate from public policy.  My vote for Romney is about Obama wanting to cut the military.  That turned me off real fast.  I still would not be too disappointed if Obama wins in 9 months, because he's done several pretty good things in his first term.

Bushie, you might want to avoid getting into debates with Mormons about whether or not they're really Christians.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 03, 2012, 05:01:34 AM
As someone who has watched Utah State football for years, you're better off leaving that alone.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 03, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
Bushie, exactly what is this new job?  I mean describe the occupation/position for which  you've been hired without an in person interview.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 03, 2012, 11:37:46 AM
I'm reminded of this post:

Same as with the Black man he supported for President four years ago, so I would suppose so. >:D

Let me clarify.  I would let him step into my home on Presidential/cordial terms, not as a Mormon trying to convert me.  The moment he starts trying to convert me, I would show him the door.

I would enjoy having President Obama in my home, because there is at least a chance he is a Christian, nobody knows for sure.  Romney is definitely not a Christian, he's a Mormon (I'm not going to get into the differences at this time).

My vote for President Romney is not about his religious beliefs, because I think he will keep them separate from public policy.  My vote for Romney is about Obama wanting to cut the military.  That turned me off real fast.  I still would not be too disappointed if Obama wins in 9 months, because he's done several pretty good things in his first term.

Bushie, you might want to avoid getting into debates with Mormons about whether or not they're really Christians.


Yeah, I'm going avoid that discussion as much as possible.  Again, I'm a newbie coming to their turf, and I don't want to rock the boat too much.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 03, 2012, 11:42:48 AM
Bushie, exactly what is this new job?  I mean describe the occupation/position for which  you've been hired without an in person interview.

You must have missed an earlier post - I did have a face-to-face interview on Monday, July 23, 2012.  I've known about this for a couple weeks, but I kept it under my hat for a change because I didn't want to count the chickens before they hatched.  I didn't even tell Mom and Dad until this past Tuesday, July 31.  I kind of let the cat have a peek outside the bag when I mentioned Salt Lake City to her privately late Sunday night, July 29.  I let the cat run wild on Tuesday.  Anyway, it is a supervisor position at the Xerox in Salt Lake City.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 03, 2012, 01:03:57 PM
That's what I always did when I have a long ride or move. Leave at 4 or so in the morning, that way you can get a few hours on the road before any potential traffic.

Leave at ten PM and drive all night and you won't see any traffic at all.  And your car will run cooler, and you won't have any annoying sun in your eyes.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 03, 2012, 02:07:41 PM
That's what I always did when I have a long ride or move. Leave at 4 or so in the morning, that way you can get a few hours on the road before any potential traffic.

Leave at ten PM and drive all night and you won't see any traffic at all.  And your car will run cooler, and you won't have any annoying sun in your eyes.

Unless he's not a fan of night driving.  I'm fine with it, because I'm a night person.  But some people just get way too tired.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 03, 2012, 02:22:19 PM
eave at ten PM and drive all night and you won't see any traffic at all.  And your car will run cooler, and you won't have any annoying sun in your eyes.

Unless he's not a fan of night driving.  I'm fine with it, because I'm a night person.  But some people just get way too tired.

Yeah I know, and I admit I'm being a little facetious - if you proposed to me leaving for somewhere at 8 AM I'd be horrified. Its all what one is used to.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 03, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
It's so kinky how BushKE uses cat so frivolously. Letting the cat out of the bag... letting the cat have a peek out.... letting the cat run wild.... so risqué. I'm shocked no one else has picked up on this subtly.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on August 03, 2012, 09:26:05 PM
Bushie, I'm 130 pages into the Second update, and I can draw no conclusion except you are truly a cursed, miserable, terrible specimen of a human being. I cannot believe I was able to go and attempt to give you advice when you have so thoroughly ignored every piece of advice offered to you in this forum. Nor can I believe that we continued to give it.

I don't know what to say. You should be ashamed of yourself, scamming and exploiting and lying about your job situation, then claiming that you've received guidance from God! God is not talking to you... our God is a good God and He would not be leading you down your destructive path, so maybe it's Satan. But I doubt anyone is talking to you, at least not talking sense. No, you have your enablers, your parents and that pastor, who are useless enough to lead you to where you are today. I come from an African background, as you know, and we deeply follow and abide by our parents. But you depend on them as if you are five.

You go from a good paying job to a scam in which you rip off your own parents. You are terrible. No self-respecting man would do such a thing. A MUGU, and one who can be fooled by dishonest ones easily. You were a reverend, a Christian. You blaspheme God by involving Him in your tomfoolery... perhaps that's why you are so wretched.

You claim to take things slow and are engaged in a matter of months to a woman with the maturity of a ten year old. My God, do you not see the rest of us? 2-5+ years before engagement, like normal, coastal Americans! Then you try to get back together with her after she breaks up with you through your parents. I've never even heard of that happening. Ever! I mean, what's wrong with you!?

Then you sign up for a job with a company you worked for and quit before because you didn't like it after a day, I MEAN WHAT IS THAT? HOW CAN YOU BE SO IGNORANT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING??!!! You go and tell us you're doing one thing and do another, saying you didn't want to believe you were doing sales???? No one's making you do that! You're not a slave! Slavery would be better for you, you would be doing honest work and be made to stick with it! Instead you quit jobs after months, weeks, days, hours! How many jobs have you had since you started the update?

Perhaps you're not real. I desperately want to believe such. Perhaps you're a collaborative effort between authoritarian leftists to erode our faith in humanity... as that's what your update is doing! Chris Christie a few weeks ago said that "Washington thinks it can manage your lives better than you can", and looking at you the answer is "damn right it can!" I know intelligent, sensible, attractive, and personable Oklahomans. What went wrong with you??

I'm watching the weather Channel right now. There's a fire in Oklahoma. I hope it burns your house, maybe that'll drive you to sensible behavior.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 03, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
Simfan going for the jugular. 

I'm quite confident that these threads are trolling and/or posting anything resembling advice to this character is 100% useless, but I think it all boils down that I like the sound of my own voice.  I dislike myself for participating in this train wreck of threads but oh well.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 03, 2012, 09:59:11 PM
Thanks for making me laugh, Sim!  I needed that!  Off to Bushie's ignore box you go. (just kidding).  I'm not going to get angry because that would be dignifying this rant with a response more than what I'm already giving it.  It doesn't phase me one bit.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 03, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
Why do you tell me this? I know you'll pay no attention. You could at least answer my questions.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 03, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
It's so kinky how BushKE uses cat so frivolously. Letting the cat out of the bag... letting the cat have a peek out.... letting the cat run wild.... so risqué. I'm shocked no one else has picked up on this subtly.

Speaking of the cat, the real cat that is, the cat that made me cry by licking my ear, I have found him a new home!  My aunt and my cousin will come over after church on Sunday and meet him and one of them will likely take him home either that afternoon or a day or two later.  They are both cat lovers and have 2 cats apiece already.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 03, 2012, 10:13:12 PM
Why do you tell me this? I know you'll pay no attention. You could at least answer my questions.

Why respond to raging insults?  I don't have time to mess around with that.  You have your opinions and I know anything I say will start a flame war and will be immediately shot down.  I, on the other hand, have more important things to do than to argue, I'm leaving for Salt Lake City, Utah in 342 hours 15 minutes at 4:30 am CDT on Saturday, August 18, 2012.  Will I probably waste time on Atlas, anyway?  Probably, but I'm not going to spend all my time on one conversation that will be going nowhere.  If you don't like me for some reason, fine, put me on ignore or don't come to this thread.  Two very simple solutions.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 03, 2012, 10:16:09 PM
I too have far better things to do right now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 03, 2012, 10:23:07 PM
Simfan--My default assumption for everyone I meet on the internet is that they're compulsive liars, and nothing they say about themselves is real.  So no, I don't believe much of what Bushie says about himself, nor what most other folks on the interwebs say about themselves, but that's OK.  Even if it's not true, you can still read it and absorb it for entertainment purposes.  I assume you did find it entertaining on some level, if you actually read through 100+ pages of Update!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 03, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
That's what I always did when I have a long ride or move. Leave at 4 or so in the morning, that way you can get a few hours on the road before any potential traffic.

Leave at ten PM and drive all night and you won't see any traffic at all.  And your car will run cooler, and you won't have any annoying sun in your eyes.

Unless he's not a fan of night driving.  I'm fine with it, because I'm a night person.  But some people just get way too tired.

Living where I do and traveling where I will be traveling, I prefer not to drive at night because 1) my Tourette's have been acting up at night lately and 2) Deer like to roam at night.  I know it's not cooler weather yet and deer like the cooler weather better, but I want to take as minimal chance to run into Bambi or her dad!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: dead0man on August 04, 2012, 12:08:20 AM
Bushie, I'm 130 pages into the Second update
I too have far better things to do right now.
Do ya?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 04, 2012, 06:35:33 AM

I was in a car travelling from New York to Washington. I did not then. I did when I wrote that.  I was outside, actually. I enjoyed myself greatly.

So, Bushie moves to Utah: I give it 1/12.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Thomas D on August 04, 2012, 12:14:58 PM
Okay, I've been away for a few months. What did I miss and what Did Romney do to turn off Bushie?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 04, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Okay, I've been away for a few months. What did I miss and what Did Romney do to turn off Bushie?

Well, you missed the end of Dell, you missed the beginning of Xerox, and you've caught the beginning of the big promotion and move to Salt Lake City, Utah.  I am moving on August 18.

As far as Romney, he's hasn't really done anything, and I will still likely vote for him in November, but I've always been fond of Obama and given the right circumstances, he might be able to regain my vote (not that it matters as i'm going from deep red state to deep red state), but the sentiment is still there.  I'm on the fence leaning toward Romney's side right now.  So, I guess you could put me in the undecided column!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on August 04, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
what do 'hope' and 'phelix' think about this move?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 04, 2012, 04:08:47 PM
Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 04, 2012, 08:19:36 PM
I am officially under two weeks remaining in Oklahoma.  I leave in 320.25 hours at 4:30 am 8/18/2012.  I have 352 hours until I enter Salt Lake City at roughly 2:00 pm MDT 8/19/2012.  I also have 10 more nights in my house, the last night being 8/13/2012.  This isn't my first attempt at leaving Oklahoma (Kansas City, Autumn 2007; Dallas, Spring 2008), but I hopefully will make this the first successful attempt.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 04, 2012, 08:29:02 PM
Your personal motto is Semper Eadem. I'll return from Ethiopia and you'll still be in Oklahoma, mark my words.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.

Thus my mention of an authoritarian leftist conspiracy.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 04, 2012, 08:30:31 PM
Bush is moving to Utah when I'm moving to New York, what a co-inky-dink.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 04, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Your personal motto is Semper Eadem. I'll return from Ethiopia and you'll still be in Oklahoma, mark my words.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.

Thus my mention of an authoritarian leftist conspiracy.


If you return on or before 8/17/2012 then, yes, I will still be in Oklahoma.  After 4:30 am on 8/18/2012 I will be on the road to Utah.

Simfan, seriously, if u can only insult me and defame my name, then get off this thread.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 04, 2012, 08:48:11 PM
Your personal motto is Semper Eadem. I'll return from Ethiopia and you'll still be in Oklahoma, mark my words.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.

Thus my mention of an authoritarian leftist conspiracy.


If you return on or before 8/17/2012 then, yes, I will still be in Oklahoma.  After 4:30 am on 8/18/2012 I will be on the road to Utah.

Simfan, seriously, if you can only insult me and defame my name, then get off this thread.

I came with no opinion and no prejudice, but you always say things and never carry through. What evidence do I have to assume it will be the contrary this time?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 04, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Your personal motto is Semper Eadem. I'll return from Ethiopia and you'll still be in Oklahoma, mark my words.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.

Thus my mention of an authoritarian leftist conspiracy.


If you return on or before 8/17/2012 then, yes, I will still be in Oklahoma.  After 4:30 am on 8/18/2012 I will be on the road to Utah.

Simfan, seriously, if you can only insult me and defame my name, then get off this thread.

I came with no opinion and no prejudice, but you always say things and never carry through. What evidence do I have to assume it will be the contrary this time?

Fair point.  This time, I've already hired movers, I've already secured an apartment, I've already secured employment in Utah and have ceased employment in Oklahoma.  We have a lot of money already invested in this move.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 04, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
what do 'hope' and 'phelix' think about this move?

Papa was a rolling stone, Walter.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 04, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
Your personal motto is Semper Eadem. I'll return from Ethiopia and you'll still be in Oklahoma, mark my words.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.

Thus my mention of an authoritarian leftist conspiracy.


If you return on or before 8/17/2012 then, yes, I will still be in Oklahoma.  After 4:30 am on 8/18/2012 I will be on the road to Utah.

Simfan, seriously, if you can only insult me and defame my name, then get off this thread.

I came with no opinion and no prejudice, but you always say things and never carry through. What evidence do I have to assume it will be the contrary this time?

Fair point.  This time, I've already hired movers, I've already secured an apartment, I've already secured employment in Utah and have ceased employment in Oklahoma.  We have a lot of money already invested in this move.

Quote from: BushOklahoma
They say that Walt Disney World is the most popular place for honeymoons all around the world, actually.

We're not going to do any of the Disney Honeymoon Vacations, as I can combine the flights, hotel, and rental car for only $850 and then add in the gasoline and the food and the park tickets, we should be able to spend a full 8 days, 9 nights for under $2,000.  I'm expecting to keep it in the $1,750 range without souvenirs.  Even though we aren't going to fly out until the early afternoon the day after the wedding, our honeymoon will officially begin after we leave the reception, because we'll stay at a hotel near the Oklahoma City airport Saturday night and then get up and get to the airport late Sunday morning.

I found out something very encouraging yesterday.  As some may know on the forum, I have a huge obsession with dates and times and countdowns (part of the reason I countdown Christmas so early).  She was over at my house yesterday afternoon and I showed her a countdown until midnight the morning of our Wedding Day that includes the days, hours, minutes, and seconds.  She said "awww, how sweet".  She really liked that!!  I'm finding out more and more each day that she is the one for me!!

BTW, as of 8:00 pm CDT, we are down to 8,500 hours even until Saturday, April 9, 2011 at 12:00 am CDT!!!!

What investments did you make in your prior abortive moves?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 04, 2012, 09:16:22 PM
Your personal motto is Semper Eadem. I'll return from Ethiopia and you'll still be in Oklahoma, mark my words.

Mods, why haven't you banned this idiot yet? He's trolling, soliciting advice and not taking it, indeed doing the exact opposite of what we say. You set your ultimatum, Mikado, but he's failed about 20 such of his own similar goals. Get rid of him. Now!

What's wrong with you simfan?  Most of us enjoy reading his tale, and you don't have to read it.  You're living in a fantasy world if you think Bushies litany of woes, failures, and disappointments isn't closer to the real life of the vast majority of americans than your buppy-in-a-tuxedo pretense.

Thus my mention of an authoritarian leftist conspiracy.


If you return on or before 8/17/2012 then, yes, I will still be in Oklahoma.  After 4:30 am on 8/18/2012 I will be on the road to Utah.

Simfan, seriously, if you can only insult me and defame my name, then get off this thread.

I came with no opinion and no prejudice, but you always say things and never carry through. What evidence do I have to assume it will be the contrary this time?

Fair point.  This time, I've already hired movers, I've already secured an apartment, I've already secured employment in Utah and have ceased employment in Oklahoma.  We have a lot of money already invested in this move.

They say that Walt Disney World is the most popular place for honeymoons all around the world, actually.

We're not going to do any of the Disney Honeymoon Vacations, as I can combine the flights, hotel, and rental car for only $850 and then add in the gasoline and the food and the park tickets, we should be able to spend a full 8 days, 9 nights for under $2,000.  I'm expecting to keep it in the $1,750 range without souvenirs.  Even though we aren't going to fly out until the early afternoon the day after the wedding, our honeymoon will officially begin after we leave the reception, because we'll stay at a hotel near the Oklahoma City airport Saturday night and then get up and get to the airport late Sunday morning.

I found out something very encouraging yesterday.  As some may know on the forum, I have a huge obsession with dates and times and countdowns (part of the reason I countdown Christmas so early).  She was over at my house yesterday afternoon and I showed her a countdown until midnight the morning of our Wedding Day that includes the days, hours, minutes, and seconds.  She said "awww, how sweet".  She really liked that!!  I'm finding out more and more each day that she is the one for me!!

BTW, as of 8:00 pm CDT, we are down to 8,500 hours even until Saturday, April 9, 2011 at 12:00 am CDT!!!!

What investments did you make in your prior abortive moves?

That was 2-3 years ago for crying out loud.  Give it a rest already.  I tell you what, I'll post from Ft Collins, Colorado on Sat eve 8/18/2012 and from SLC, Utah on Sun eve 8/19/2012.  Mods, is there any way to verify the location from where a post was sent? I want to remove any trace of doubt thatwill hapen.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 04, 2012, 09:40:35 PM
I'm not saying you'll lie. If you say you did, you did.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 12:58:18 AM
This is Sunday Morning, August 5, 2012.  This is the beginning of my final full week in Oklahoma, which means officially next Saturday (which according to the calendar is August 18), I will be leaving Oklahoma bound for Fort Collins, Colorado!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on August 05, 2012, 01:28:54 AM
Quite frankly Fort Collins and the rest of the Front Range seem like considerably nicer places than most of the populated part of Utah, but good luck, I guess.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 05, 2012, 09:11:06 AM
Simfan34, this thread is not about 'actions', or about 'carrying things through'.  This thread is about dreams, heartbreak, despair, and hopelessness that we cannot even imagine.  And a man who keeps going regardless.  It is the most heroic thread on the forum.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 01:58:25 PM
This afternoon at 4:00 pm will be kind of a sad moment.  My cat's new owner will be here to meet him and to take him home with her.  Thankfully, the new owner is my cousin so he'll stay in the family and I made her promise that I can see him when I come home to visit every once in a while.  He will always be my cat.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 05, 2012, 02:29:49 PM
Simfan34, this thread is not about 'actions', or about 'carrying things through'.  This thread is about dreams, heartbreak, despair, and hopelessness that we cannot even imagine.  And a man who keeps going regardless.  It is the most heroic thread on the forum.

Agreed. And none of us can turn away.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: afleitch on August 05, 2012, 02:43:15 PM
Simfan34, this thread is not about 'actions', or about 'carrying things through'.  This thread is about dreams, heartbreak, despair, and hopelessness that we cannot even imagine.  And a man who keeps going regardless.  It is the most heroic thread on the forum.

Agreed. And none of us can turn away.

It's powerful enough to bring you back for a gander every few months. It must be something!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 05, 2012, 04:04:57 PM
Simfan34, this thread is not about 'actions', or about 'carrying things through'.  This thread is about dreams, heartbreak, despair, and hopelessness that we cannot even imagine.  And a man who keeps going regardless.  It is the most heroic thread on the forum.

Agreed. And none of us can turn away.

It's powerful enough to bring you back for a gander every few months. It must be something!

Welcome back J-Mann.  Oh and I forgot 'folly', but I suppose that both goes without saying and is somewhat deceptive...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 05, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
Quite frankly Fort Collins and the rest of the Front Range seem like considerably nicer places than most of the populated part of Utah, but good luck, I guess.

The Salt Lake Valley is a very nice place, really.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on August 05, 2012, 04:55:30 PM
Quite frankly Fort Collins and the rest of the Front Range seem like considerably nicer places than most of the populated part of Utah, but good luck, I guess.

The Salt Lake Valley is a very nice place, really.

Compared to the rest of the Wasatch Front or on its own merits? Bear in mind that I strongly dislike extensive development outside urban or small-town cores.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 05, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
Hmm... I still think something is really odd. I have to go up to Oklahoma the 19th through the 21st for work, and the day before I'm supposed to get there Jeff leaves. I'm wondering, perhaps he isn't real after all.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on August 05, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
Quite frankly Fort Collins and the rest of the Front Range seem like considerably nicer places than most of the populated part of Utah, but good luck, I guess.

The Salt Lake Valley is a very nice place, really.

If it wasn't for the sprawl it would be one of the nicest places in the country.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
Quite frankly Fort Collins and the rest of the Front Range seem like considerably nicer places than most of the populated part of Utah, but good luck, I guess.

The Salt Lake Valley is a very nice place, really.

I'm looking forward to Christmas time.  Hoping for a White Christmas!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 08:50:19 PM
I am 5 days into this Utah preparation. I'm doing more research on Utah tonight and will probably hit the sack about 12:30 Monday morning. I am down to 12 days until I leave for the Beehive State. Tomorrow, I've got quite a few things to do, so it's going to be a busy day. At 9:00 pm CDT tonight, I have 295.5 hours remaining until my mother and I pull out of her driveway. This time is going by very quick! I started the preparation with 17 days and I've already spent 5, so I'm almost 1/3 of the way through this preparation. 2 weeks from tonight, I will be spending my first night in Salt Lake City, Utah at the La Quinta Inn in Midvale, Utah which is a southern suburb of SLC.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2012, 09:41:28 PM

Well, it is Utah...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 09:47:47 PM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on August 05, 2012, 11:00:32 PM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.

I'm pretty sure Phil was implying something else.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 11:10:13 PM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.

I'm pretty sure Phil was implying something else.

I'll admit, that bird just flew a mile over my head!  Unless it has a Mormon reference, he lost me...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 05, 2012, 11:24:58 PM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.

I'm pretty sure Phil was implying something else.

I'll admit, that bird just flew a mile over my head!  Unless it has a Mormon reference, he lost me...


Persons of color are thin on the ground in Utah. Even the landscaping crews tend to be white. I didn't see anyone of color at the two fast food joints I patronized in Provo a few years ago either. In fact the only persons of color I have seen in Utah were in Boulder, two Hispanics tending the horses at a remote guest ranch, very remote, which offered that amenity. Speaking of "color," Boulder, Utah, yes Utah, not Colorado, is the "darkest" place in the continental US when it comes to light pollution, and is at 8,000 feet elevation,, and fairly arid, which equals crystal clear night skies. I plan to go back soon with a telescope when the moon is not making an appearance, to savor the cosmos, while sipping a cocktail on the porch of the ranch. It is an undiscovered treasure, and very cheap, about 80 bucks a night. It won't be for long.

I have so many things to do before I sleep, and time is slipping away.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 05, 2012, 11:28:12 PM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.

I'm pretty sure Phil was implying something else.

I'll admit, that bird just flew a mile over my head!  Unless it has a Mormon reference, he lost me...


Persons of color are thin on the ground in Utah. Even the landscaping crews tend to be white. I didn't see anyone of color at the two fast food joints I patronized in Provo a few years ago either. In fact the only persons of color I have seen in Utah were in Boulder, two Hispanics tending the horses at a remote guest ranch, very remote, which offered that amenity. Speaking of "color," Boulder, Utah, yes Utah, not Colorado, is the "darkest" place in the continental US when it comes to light pollution, and is at 8,000 feet elevation,, and fairly arid, which equals crystal clear night skies. I plan to go back soon with a telescope when the moon is not making an appearance, to savor the cosmos, while sipping a cocktail on the porch of the ranch. It is an undiscovered treasure, and very cheap, about 80 bucks a night. It won't be for long.

I have so many things to do before I sleep, and time is slipping away.

Ahh, thanks, Torie!  That makes perfect sense.  I've checked the White percentage and it showed like 91.9% with the second biggest group being Asians at a paltry 2.2%.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 06, 2012, 01:39:00 AM
Bush is moving to Utah when I'm moving to New York, what a co-inky-dink.

Where in NY are you moving to?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on August 06, 2012, 08:17:28 AM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.

I'm pretty sure Phil was implying something else.

I'll admit, that bird just flew a mile over my head!  Unless it has a Mormon reference, he lost me...


Persons of color are thin on the ground in Utah. Even the landscaping crews tend to be white. I didn't see anyone of color at the two fast food joints I patronized in Provo a few years ago either. In fact the only persons of color I have seen in Utah were in Boulder, two Hispanics tending the horses at a remote guest ranch, very remote, which offered that amenity. Speaking of "color," Boulder, Utah, yes Utah, not Colorado, is the "darkest" place in the continental US when it comes to light pollution, and is at 8,000 feet elevation,, and fairly arid, which equals crystal clear night skies. I plan to go back soon with a telescope when the moon is not making an appearance, to savor the cosmos, while sipping a cocktail on the porch of the ranch. It is an undiscovered treasure, and very cheap, about 80 bucks a night. It won't be for long.

I have so many things to do before I sleep, and time is slipping away.

Was this the Boulder Mountain Lodge? I stayed there in 2001. Would love to go back, but not for that drive.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 06, 2012, 08:48:01 AM
Ahh, thanks, Torie!  That makes perfect sense.  I've checked the White percentage and it showed like 91.9% with the second biggest group being Asians at a paltry 2.2%.

R +1


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 06, 2012, 10:18:02 AM

I was reading online that there is a 53% probability of having 1" of snow on the ground on Christmas Day.

I'm pretty sure Phil was implying something else.

I'll admit, that bird just flew a mile over my head!  Unless it has a Mormon reference, he lost me...


Persons of color are thin on the ground in Utah. Even the landscaping crews tend to be white. I didn't see anyone of color at the two fast food joints I patronized in Provo a few years ago either. In fact the only persons of color I have seen in Utah were in Boulder, two Hispanics tending the horses at a remote guest ranch, very remote, which offered that amenity. Speaking of "color," Boulder, Utah, yes Utah, not Colorado, is the "darkest" place in the continental US when it comes to light pollution, and is at 8,000 feet elevation,, and fairly arid, which equals crystal clear night skies. I plan to go back soon with a telescope when the moon is not making an appearance, to savor the cosmos, while sipping a cocktail on the porch of the ranch. It is an undiscovered treasure, and very cheap, about 80 bucks a night. It won't be for long.

I have so many things to do before I sleep, and time is slipping away.

Was this the Boulder Mountain Lodge? I stayed there in 2001. Would love to go back, but not for that drive.

Close, but Boulder Maintain Guest Ranch actually - more remote, more rustic - and cheaper than the lodge.  You can see the deck where one can enjoy a most excellent dinner.  I brought my own booze and medications.  :)  We had the place basically all to ourselves, with the exception of a beautiful fit lady and her 12 year old son staying in an out building, who does a TV cooking show in Omaha, Nebraska, and hiked with her son up to a lake the day before and ran into a bear. Boy, was she a pistol! Fearless and adventurous women turn me on.

I also append a view from the top of the ridge (about 9,500 feet elevation) looking down on the Capitol Reef National Monument area. On a clear day in the rich afternoon light, if the view does not for just a moment cause one to question their atheism, then there is something wrong with them. It is indeed akin to a religious experience. :) Pity though that since I was there in college (at that time Boulder had nothing but a gas station and convenience market) the aspens have largely died off along the top of the ridge due to some disease. Maybe it was global warming of something!  They added a nice foreground to the view, and in the fall of course were dressed in their rich gold color in all their glory. I think I sat there in a grass meadow savoring it all for about an hour. I just could not leave.

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And this overview of the topography gives you some idea as to just why the view is so magnificent. The ridge sort of juts out from the mountain range to the east, therefore affording about a 270 degree view. Magnifico! The LDS did indeed find God's favorite spot on this planet. Yes they did.

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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 03:54:40 PM
It’s a beautiful early Monday evening.  I’m in the process of making several phone calls to iron out much needed items, then I need to start cleaning my kitchen cabinets and get rid of all the food that is in there.  Tomorrow, I’ve got a busy day, I’ve got to get my car door looked at 9:00 am, then need to run out to Mardel’s on 240 and get a couple Bibles for the children I am baptizing on Sunday.  Then, I’ll need to head to my mother’s and see how we’re doing on our list.  After I get through there, I’ll have to run back to Grandma’s to get a couple items before coming back home so my aunt can meet my cat without so many kids around.  Wednesday, I’ll probably do some more cleaning of the cabinets and probably get some boxes to start packing stuff in.  Thursday, I will start packing the boxes and start organizing what will go in my car and what will go with the movers.  Friday, Mom and I are going to officially switch cars and I’ll take her car to Utah.  Saturday, it will be heavy sermon prep for Sunday and then Sunday will be my final worship service at Woods Baptist Church.  I’ll baptize, I’ll preach, and then we’ll have a church dinner after the AM service.  Then, next week, I’ll have to get my 50” TV over to Grandma’s and then wait for the movers on either Wednesday or Thursday and then get my tail on the road at 4:30 am Saturday!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Paul Kemp on August 06, 2012, 06:21:14 PM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Paul Kemp on August 06, 2012, 06:24:49 PM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.

Oh good. Hows the love life?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 06:30:05 PM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.

Oh good. Hows the love life?

Non existent right now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 06, 2012, 06:38:00 PM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.

How long were you working at this job again?  You must have made quite an impression because wouldn't you still be under probation and not even covered by health insurance yet?



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 06:44:39 PM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.

How long were you working at this job again?  You must have made quite an impression because wouldn't you still be under probation and not even covered by health insurance yet?



I started June 18.  When I first started, they kept mentioning over and over about the likelihood of a quick first promotion.  Sure enough, at the end of Week 4, they announced that interviews for these higher positions would be starting very soon.  I had the interview for the supervisor position on July 23 and found out that i had the job in Salt Lake City on July 30.  I'm not eligible for benefits until January 1, but I can still keep the Indian Clinic here in Oklahoma for my medicine and for a yearly checkup.  Probation was supposed to end on August 17 after 2 full months, but they liked me well enough because I was there early everyday, I passed all my tests by much more than the minimum score, and I had great Customer Satisfaction Survey results.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
11 days until I'm out of Oklahoma!!  I am making great progress on my list, but there's still a lot more work to be done.  11 days is pretty much a week and a half.  At 4:30 tomorrow evening, it will be exactly 1.5 weeks.  When I leave next Saturday morning at 4:30 am, I will probably not return at all in the remainder of 2012.  We are currently less than 2 hours from Tuesday morning, at which time I will be 2 days away from beginning to pack.  I'm buttoning up the last few items in Oklahoma this week and then will officially move into the transition process on Monday.  I won’t have everything wrapped up in Oklahoma until likely September, but that will just be one item.  At 10:30 pm tonight, I am exactly 270 hours away (11 ¼ days)!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 06, 2012, 10:11:54 PM
So why the shift away from the 24-hour clock?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 10:13:51 PM

Changing it up.  It'll come back at some point.  I go through cycles.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on August 06, 2012, 10:49:16 PM

Is that before or after 9 in the afternoon?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 10:54:56 PM

Probably before.  Sorry, I consider anything after 3:00 to be evening, in the winter generally after 2:00.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 06, 2012, 10:56:21 PM

Probably before.  Sorry, I consider anything after 3:00 to be evening, in the winter generally after 2:00.

And you also consider 12:30 P.M. to be the morning?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 11:13:59 PM

Probably before.  Sorry, I consider anything after 3:00 to be evening, in the winter generally after 2:00.

And you also consider 12:30 P.M. to be the morning?

12:30 PM, as in 30 minutes after Noon, I consider to be afternoon.  The night ends at 23:59:59.  Anything from 00:00:00 through 11:59:59 am is morning.  So, if you mean 12:30 as in 30 minutes after midnight, I do consider that morning.

Basically here is a break down of what times I use with their designation.  It does change with the sunset.  See below for which months I use each designation.

00:00:00-03:59:59   -    Early Morning
04:00:00-07:59:59   -    Mid Morning
08:00:00-11:59:59   -    Late Morning
12:00:00-12:59:59   -    Early Afternoon (May-August)
13:00:00-13:59:59   -    Mid Afternoon (May-August
14:00:00-14:59:59   -    Late Afternoon (May-August)
15:00:00-16:59:59   -    Early Evening (May-August)
17:00:00-18:59:59   -    Mid Evening (May-August)
19:00:00-20:59:59   -    Late Evening (May-August)
21:00:00-23:59:59   -    Night (May-August)

12:00:00-13:14:59   -    Early Afternoon (September, October, March, April)
13:15:00-14:29:59   -    Late Afternoon (September, October, March, April)
14:30:00-16:29:59   -    Early Evening (September, October, March, April)
16:30:00-18:29:59   -    Mid Evening (September, October, March, April)
18:30:00-20:29:59   -    Late Evening (September, October, March, April)
20:30:00-23:59:59   -    Night (September, October, March, April)

12:00:00-12:59:59   -    Early Afternoon (November-February)
13:00:00-13:59:59   -    Late Afternoon (November-February)
14:00:00-15:59:59   -    Early Evening (November-February)
16:00:00-17:59:59   -    Mid Evening (November-February)
18:00:00-19:59:59   -    Late Evening (November-February)
20:00:00-23:59:59   -    Night (November-February)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
I never say midnight last night or midnight tonight.  I always say midnight this morning or midnight tomorrow morning.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smid on August 06, 2012, 11:31:55 PM
I never say midnight last night or midnight tonight.  I always say midnight this morning or midnight tomorrow morning.

I use evening for anything after the end of the work day until one turns toward home/bed, when it becomes night. I guess that means you can't "dance the night away" or have "a big night out" though, unless you're foxtrotting up the footpath home. I guess I might use night for post-midnight but before bed, and then morning from when you get up until noon. Midnight is midnight tonight in my mind.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 06, 2012, 11:39:32 PM
I never say midnight last night or midnight tonight.  I always say midnight this morning or midnight tomorrow morning.

I use evening for anything after the end of the work day until one turns toward home/bed, when it becomes night. I guess that means you can't "dance the night away" or have "a big night out" though, unless you're foxtrotting up the footpath home. I guess I might use night for post-midnight but before bed, and then morning from when you get up until noon. Midnight is midnight tonight in my mind.

I go based on when the day officially begins (which is 00:00:00).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 07, 2012, 01:37:06 AM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.

How long were you working at this job again?  You must have made quite an impression because wouldn't you still be under probation and not even covered by health insurance yet?



I started June 18.  When I first started, they kept mentioning over and over about the likelihood of a quick first promotion.  Sure enough, at the end of Week 4, they announced that interviews for these higher positions would be starting very soon.  I had the interview for the supervisor position on July 23 and found out that i had the job in Salt Lake City on July 30.  I'm not eligible for benefits until January 1, but I can still keep the Indian Clinic here in Oklahoma for my medicine and for a yearly checkup.  Probation was supposed to end on August 17 after 2 full months, but they liked me well enough because I was there early everyday, I passed all my tests by much more than the minimum score, and I had great Customer Satisfaction Survey results.

What in the hell kind of company makes you wait over six months for benefits!?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 07, 2012, 01:38:04 AM
The kind of company that fires you after 5 months and 30 days.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 07, 2012, 01:56:23 AM
Bushie is going to marry a Mormon girl and convert.  I can feel it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 07, 2012, 02:34:01 AM
Bushie is going to marry a Mormon girl and convert.  I can feel it.

You mean get engaged and then break up after he converts again?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 07, 2012, 04:04:14 AM
It must have been what, two years now since he's had sex? I'd get engaged as soon as I could if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be able to help it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 07, 2012, 08:27:51 AM
Haven't read this in a week or so. Anyone got the cliffnotes?

Basically, I got a promotion at work and am moving to Salt Lake City, Utah on August 18.

How long were you working at this job again?  You must have made quite an impression because wouldn't you still be under probation and not even covered by health insurance yet?



I started June 18.  When I first started, they kept mentioning over and over about the likelihood of a quick first promotion.  Sure enough, at the end of Week 4, they announced that interviews for these higher positions would be starting very soon.  I had the interview for the supervisor position on July 23 and found out that i had the job in Salt Lake City on July 30.  I'm not eligible for benefits until January 1, but I can still keep the Indian Clinic here in Oklahoma for my medicine and for a yearly checkup.  Probation was supposed to end on August 17 after 2 full months, but they liked me well enough because I was there early everyday, I passed all my tests by much more than the minimum score, and I had great Customer Satisfaction Survey results.

What in the hell kind of company makes you wait over six months for benefits!?

Yeah, that's pretty weird. When I got this job, I got my benefits the first day, and was able to go to the doctor the same day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 07, 2012, 11:24:04 AM
Bushie, maybe I'm just getting oldtimers here but what, exactly, is your new position and don't say "supervisor".......I mean what are you supervising and for who, exactly.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 07, 2012, 12:08:21 PM
Bushie, maybe I'm just getting oldtimers here but what, exactly, is your new position and don't say "supervisor".......I mean what are you supervising and for who, exactly.

He is listed as Supervisor for some type of scam so when the scam gets busted, he is the one that goes to jail....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 07, 2012, 12:41:56 PM
Bushie, maybe I'm just getting oldtimers here but what, exactly, is your new position and don't say "supervisor".......I mean what are you supervising and for who, exactly.

He is listed as Supervisor for some type of scam so when the scam gets busted, he is the one that goes to jail....

I really wish Bushie well but he's being coy about the job, while giving us every other detail.....that bothers me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on August 07, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
the chances this job is a scam is over 50%.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 07, 2012, 03:59:29 PM
Bushie, maybe I'm just getting oldtimers here but what, exactly, is your new position and don't say "supervisor".......I mean what are you supervising and for who, exactly.

He is listed as Supervisor for some type of scam so when the scam gets busted, he is the one that goes to jail....

I really wish Bushie well but he's being coy about the job, while giving us every other detail.....that bothers me.

It is odd for someone who admits he compulsively must share details of his life to the forum.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 07, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
Well you know what they say, as this associate attorney I used to work with way back when put it, who admittedly had a twisted and bigoted mind: "[T]he Jews commit the major fraud, and the Baptists commit the petty fraud."  Now again, before you all get upset, I am merely repeating what he said. But well, maybe it kind of fits in this one instance. :P Maybe. Is this new job in sales, as opposed to taking service calls? 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 07, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
I will spill the beans here.  I will be supervising a group of employees at Xerox Salt Lake City just like my supervisor here in OKC was doing.  I will be coaching the advisors, training them, and such.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 07, 2012, 05:57:26 PM
My how plans have changed!! My preparation time has been cut significantly! The movers will be here on Monday, August 13, 2012 between 9:00-12:00. Mom and I will be leaving Oklahoma City now on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 4:30 am instead of Saturday, August 18, 2012. We've got 4 full days to get ready for the movers since Sunday is mostly booked with church, salad luncheon, and moving my big TV to Grandma's. I'll be able to do a little bit Sunday evening, but then the movers will be here between 9-12 Monday. That means 8 days until I leave!!!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 07, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Why you leaving so early now?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 07, 2012, 08:07:25 PM

The movers will be here on Monday, August 13, 2012 and will deliver the furniture on Tuesday, August 21, 2012.  They have to pick up Monday to deliver it by the next Tuesday.  So, Mom and I are going up on Thursday, August 16, 2012 to go ahead and get the apartment on Saturday and then have 3 days to clean it (if it needs cleaning) before the movers get there.  It cuts off 48 hours of preparation which is 20% of the remaining time that we did have.  We were down to 10 days as of tonight, but now, we've been cut to 8 days.  We're leaving at 4:30 am so we can get to Fort Collins, Colorado early enough to relax the rest of the evening before setting out for Utah the next morning.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 07, 2012, 09:06:55 PM
Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 07, 2012, 10:52:54 PM
Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 12:24:13 AM
It's starting to dawn on me.  Today is Wednesday, 8 August 2012.  This means I officially leave 1 week from tomorrow on Thursday, 16 August 2012!!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 12:27:01 AM
It must have been what, two years now since he's had sex? I'd get engaged as soon as I could if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be able to help it.

I'm not worried about it right now, honestly.  In fact, I would prefer to remain single for right now so I can get myself fully established before I take care of someone else.  As they say on airplanes as part of their safety checklist, "adjust your nozzle before you help someone else."  I know the analogy fails quite miserably after that, but go with it!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on August 08, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
Good luck!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 08, 2012, 01:25:48 AM
Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.

All the more absurd....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 08, 2012, 03:45:31 AM
Wait, what are you back on the fence about? The presidential election or the move?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 08, 2012, 07:56:23 AM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 08, 2012, 08:12:51 AM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

He's not selling his house so this job is no sure thing......plates and licenses are no big whup,  your'e right, no rush.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 08:41:40 AM
Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.

All the more absurd....

How is it more absurd?  There is nothing fishy about what I just posted.  Businesses don't have a one-size-fits-all approach to promoting.  Businesses are allowed to do things that will best benefit their bottom line, even if its not what everybody else does.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 08:45:35 AM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

Utah gives me 60 days to change things over, but I want to go ahead and do it if for nothing else so I can register to vote in Utah.  I'll probably do it in early September.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 08:47:01 AM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

He's not selling his house so this job is no sure thing......plates and licenses are no big whup,  your'e right, no rush.

The job is a sure thing, the only reason I'm keeping the house is because of what happened to me in Kansas City and Dallas when things turned on me on a dime.  I'm being very cautious right now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 08, 2012, 09:19:39 AM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

He's not selling his house so this job is no sure thing......plates and licenses are no big whup,  your'e right, no rush.

The job is a sure thing, the only reason I'm keeping the house is because of what happened to me in Kansas City and Dallas when things turned on me on a dime.  I'm being very cautious right now.

Good man!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 12:10:16 PM
Wait, what are you back on the fence about? The presidential election or the move?

The election


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 08, 2012, 12:17:05 PM
Wait, what are you back on the fence about? The presidential election or the move?

The election

The Muslim vs The Mormon would be a tough one.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 08, 2012, 12:36:54 PM
Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.

All the more absurd....

How is it more absurd?  There is nothing fishy about what I just posted.  Businesses don't have a one-size-fits-all approach to promoting.  Businesses are allowed to do things that will best benefit their bottom line, even if its not what everybody else does.

I realize Business's don't have  one sized fit all approach however to make someone who has no previous experience as a Supervisor , a supervisor that quickly doesn't pass the small test.  I hope I'm wrong, but something just doesn't seem right.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.

All the more absurd....

How is it more absurd?  There is nothing fishy about what I just posted.  Businesses don't have a one-size-fits-all approach to promoting.  Businesses are allowed to do things that will best benefit their bottom line, even if its not what everybody else does.

I realize Business's don't have  one sized fit all approach however to make someone who has no previous experience as a Supervisor , a supervisor that quickly doesn't pass the small test.  I hope I'm wrong, but something just doesn't seem right.

How does one gain experience as a supervisor?  Does the rule that everybody has to start somewhere not apply here, or does it not apply to me?

Anyway, we have a good plan going.  My supervisor wants to meet with me next week and his secretary will call me on Friday to set up the date.  The day before we meet, I am going to fly out there and then he'll call the apartment to verify my employment and then I'll lease the apartment and fly home.  After I fly home, we'll get everything finished up and packed up and then Mom and I will drive up there.  We want to do it this way so if by some low chance this doesn't work out, then all the money we'll be out is a plane ticket/rental car/hotel instead of the mover's expenses.  I don't expect anything to fall through, because my supervisor reiterated today that this job is guaranteed, but that he wants to meet with me in person to confirm to him that i haven't backed out.  The last thing he wants to do is tell the apartment I am employed when I am actually not employed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 08, 2012, 05:11:50 PM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

Utah gives me 60 days to change things over, but I want to go ahead and do it if for nothing else so I can register to vote in Utah.  I'll probably do it in early September.

And if the job doesn't work out, you don't mind dropping all of that money into changing all of that?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 08, 2012, 05:12:44 PM
Have you ever been in any type of supervisory position anywhere?  Including places where you simply volunteer?  And if so, how many people reported to you?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 05:17:30 PM
Have you ever been in any type of supervisory position anywhere?  Including places where you simply volunteer?  And if so, how many people reported to you?

Yes, I was a supervisor (Assistant Director) of a computer camp in summers of 2007 and 2008 in Philadelphia/Boston in 2007 and Atlanta in 2008.  About 10 people at each site reported to me.  Granted that was only for the summer, but it still was a supervisory role.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

Utah gives me 60 days to change things over, but I want to go ahead and do it if for nothing else so I can register to vote in Utah.  I'll probably do it in early September.

And if the job doesn't work out, you don't mind dropping all of that money into changing all of that?

That's another reason I'm going to fly up there next week to test the waters and make absolutely sure everything is guaranteed and set in stone before we drop tons of money on the movers, the apartment, and the car tag and title.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 08, 2012, 06:07:52 PM
What in the hell kind of company makes you wait over six months for benefits!?

That doesn't sound particularly strange to me, given that most companies don't even provide any benefits at all.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 08, 2012, 08:53:42 PM
Sounds like the job is going to fall through.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 09:55:11 PM
Sounds like the job is going to fall through.

I highly doubt it.  He reiterated to me this afternoon that the job is secure he just wants to meet with me in person to make sure I haven't backed out.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 08, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
I am just waiting for the day when Bushie stops walking with a limp like Keyser Soze and gets into a car driven by Jamespol.

Well even if I have huge doubts on the sincerity of a lot posted in this thread, I wish you luck in your new path.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 08, 2012, 10:07:07 PM
BushKE is going to nail his supervisor so hard when he gets to Utah that he will have a job for the next decade. I have the utmost confidence in him going forward.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 08, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

Utah gives me 60 days to change things over, but I want to go ahead and do it if for nothing else so I can register to vote in Utah.  I'll probably do it in early September.

And if the job doesn't work out, you don't mind dropping all of that money into changing all of that?

That's another reason I'm going to fly up there next week to test the waters and make absolutely sure everything is guaranteed and set in stone before we drop tons of money on the movers, the apartment, and the car tag and title.

Do you have a job offer in writing?  Yes, to me, the job you got seems too good to be true, given all the circumstances. Why on God's green earth would they have hired you, with your resume, when jobs like you got have hordes of folks willing to "die for" to get?  How can you train others, when you barely know how to do the job yourself, as you have admitted, with your mental and concentration challenges and all? Very odd.

And if it turns out it is not real, you should shut this thread down. Really.  Of course, I hope it is real, and this fable has a very happy ending. Of course. But I was born, raised, and trained as a rather ruthless skeptic. That is probably a character flaw, but that's me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 10:22:16 PM
BushKE is going to nail his supervisor so hard when he gets to Utah that he will have a job for the next decade. I have the utmost confidence in him going forward.

If he doesn't, I'll lock him in a room with Jamespol and Texaslefty for an entire week. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 08, 2012, 11:54:06 PM
Jeff, I have a suggestion for you. Don't get a new drivers License, tags and all that before you start working. I've lived by the 3 month rule. You are normally given a 3 month grace period on it, and that way you should be stable at that point. If something happens and you're out of a job before that, and you have to move back to Oklahoma, you wont be out the money for changing them back and forth.

Of course, that's what I've been doing with all my moves this year.

Utah gives me 60 days to change things over, but I want to go ahead and do it if for nothing else so I can register to vote in Utah.  I'll probably do it in early September.

And if the job doesn't work out, you don't mind dropping all of that money into changing all of that?

That's another reason I'm going to fly up there next week to test the waters and make absolutely sure everything is guaranteed and set in stone before we drop tons of money on the movers, the apartment, and the car tag and title.

Do you have a job offer in writing?  Yes, to me, the job you got seems too good to be true, given all the circumstances. Why on God's green earth would they have hired you, with your resume, when jobs like you got have hordes of folks willing to "die for" to get?  How can you train others, when you barely know how to do the job yourself, as you have admitted, with your mental and concentration challenges and all? Very odd.

And if it turns out it is not real, you should shut this thread down. Really.  Of course, I hope it is real, and this fable has a very happy ending. Of course. But I was born, raised, and trained as a rather ruthless skeptic. That is probably a character flaw, but that's me.

Yes, I do have job offer in writing.  As far as why they would hire me over a huge pool of other candidates?  I do not know.  It is purely by the grace of God that I've been given this promotion and this opportunity.  Though it means I will have to leave all my family and friends behind, I know His hand will guide me every step of the way.  It's a lot of sacrifice to move up there.  I am 100% confident that I will be living up there and on my own before the end of August.  I am just doing the responsible thing and flying up there first next week, on my dime, and meeting with my manager first and then leasing the apartment.  Normally, the company should pay for meetings like this, but I wanted to pay it myself as I'm not going to book the plane ticket back to Oklahoma until I have leased the apartment.  I don't want to get all the way up there with my household goods in the movers truck and find out that for some odd reason everything fell through.  Doing it this way, if things collapse, I will just be out a plane ticket/rental car/hotel and the mover's deposit.  I have faith, but I'm also using common sense.  My father is actually the one that came up with this idea on Wednesday afternoon.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 09, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
After 134 pages, I'm still trying (and failing) to locate even the slightest sign of a rational thought here.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 09, 2012, 01:01:18 AM
So why is it falling through? Why do they think you're "backing out"?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 09, 2012, 08:29:21 AM
So why is it falling through? Why do they thin you're "backing out"?

You are not listening.  The job is not falling through and they don't think I'm backing out.  He just wants to make absolutely sure that I haven't backed out.  He doesn't think I will, but he wants to make sure.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 09, 2012, 08:56:29 AM
But...you're going to spend all this money to introduce yourself? If he wants to meet face to face next week, the company should be paying it, not you.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on August 09, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
It is purely by the grace of God that I've been given this promotion and this opportunity.  Though it means I will have to leave all my family and friends behind, I know His hand will guide me every step of the way.  It's a lot of sacrifice to move up there.  I am 100% confident that I will be living up there and on my own before the end of August.

If I were religious, this is the point where I'd start to pray for you and that you come out of this ok.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 09, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
This saga may end up taking one of its darkest turns yet.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 09, 2012, 03:27:37 PM
Simfan called it!  Xerox called me today and canceled on me.  I am staying in Oklahoma.  I will still be looking in SLC, but for now I am staying in OKC.  I am changing my direction away from call centers.  I am looking at vo-techs now to get additional training in another field.  I'll be alright.  I'm bummed, of course, but its probably for the best.  At least he told me now before I moved up there and coughed up $3000 for movers and rent.  The only thing I lose is the $300 movers deposit, but it can be used if I need to use it again.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 09, 2012, 03:32:48 PM
And I would like to see a screen shot of the written job offer that you allege exists, Jeff, which was now allegedly suddenly out-of-the-blue for no apparent reason been rescinded. What I wonder is just how much you post here is your real world, and how much is your fantasy world, and just how much you can discern the difference between the two.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 09, 2012, 03:34:04 PM
Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?  And what reason did he give for un-offering the job?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on August 09, 2012, 03:38:35 PM
so this was really an mlm scam that jamespol and texasindy were recruiting you for?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on August 09, 2012, 03:39:04 PM
Well at least by staying in OK you'll be surrounded by your religious brethren still.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 09, 2012, 03:39:46 PM
Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?

No.  Even if I did, though, $8.75 an hour with gas prices skyrocketing would barely even get me gas money.

Torie,

I've already shredded that job offer because it's no good anymore.  Like I said, though, I'm still looking in Salt Lake City, but I'm not in any hurry out there.  I have, though, learned my lesson and will stay away from call centers.  They are unstable critters and I have been going round and round with them and always end up in the same spot.  I want off the call center merry go-round!!  I'm not going to let desperation get the best of me this time.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 09, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
The story is getting a little stale again. Too predictable. I think we need another engagement...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 09, 2012, 03:44:37 PM
Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?

No.  Even if I did, though, $8.75 an hour with gas prices skyrocketing would barely even get me gas money.

Torie,

I've already shredded that job offer because it's no good anymore.  Like I said, though, I'm still looking in Salt Lake City, but I'm not in any hurry out there.  I have, though, learned my lesson and will stay away from call centers.  They are unstable critters and I have been going round and round with them and always end up in the same spot.  I want off the call center merry go-round!!  I'm not going to let desperation get the best of me this time.

You spoliated the evidence Jeff?  Naughty!  When did you shred it?  Isn't it still in the dust bin, since you just found out?  Why don't you go and retrieve it?  


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on August 09, 2012, 03:47:03 PM
bushie if you had a written job offer, on what grounds did they rescind it?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 09, 2012, 03:53:15 PM
Can you get food stamps?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 09, 2012, 03:58:41 PM
What I wonder is just how much you post here is your real world, and how much is your fantasy world, and just how much you can discern the difference between the two.

Embrace cynicism!:

My default assumption for everyone I meet on the internet is that they're compulsive liars, and nothing they say about themselves is real.  So no, I don't believe much of what Bushie says about himself, nor what most other folks on the interwebs say about themselves, but that's OK.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 09, 2012, 04:19:52 PM
What I wonder is just how much you post here is your real world, and how much is your fantasy world, and just how much you can discern the difference between the two.

Embrace cynicism!:

My default assumption for everyone I meet on the internet is that they're compulsive liars, and nothing they say about themselves is real.  So no, I don't believe much of what Bushie says about himself, nor what most other folks on the interwebs say about themselves, but that's OK.


You may have a point. However the really frightening thing is that everything I post about myself is in fact real. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 09, 2012, 04:20:57 PM
Did Simfan really call it? Or did everyone in the forum call it?

Sorry to hear, Jeff. Looks like you and I will be in the same state next week. Super scary!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 09, 2012, 04:25:15 PM
Did Simfan really call it? Or did everyone in the forum call it?

Sorry to hear, Jeff. Looks like you and I will be in the same state next week. Super scary!

The dots from the getgo were simply not connectable Andrew.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 09, 2012, 04:26:19 PM
I was jamming the Book of Mormon cast album today and thinking of you, Jeff.  It's too bad Sal Tlay Ka Siti isn't working out, but it's probably for the best.  I have no doubt that deep inside you are still Africa.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 09, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
the really frightening thing is that everything I post about myself is in fact real. :P

Same here!  And I certainly always found you to be very credible.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 09, 2012, 05:48:12 PM
And I would like to see a screen shot of the written job offer that you allege exists, Jeff, which was now allegedly suddenly out-of-the-blue for no apparent reason been rescinded. What I wonder is just how much you post here is your real world, and how much is your fantasy world, and just how much you can discern the difference between the two.

Oh man, what if the twist ending to this whole saga is that the entire thing was a dream???


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 09, 2012, 06:08:27 PM
Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?

No.  Even if I did, though, $8.75 an hour with gas prices skyrocketing would barely even get me gas money.

Torie,

I've already shredded that job offer because it's no good anymore.  Like I said, though, I'm still looking in Salt Lake City, but I'm not in any hurry out there.  I have, though, learned my lesson and will stay away from call centers.  They are unstable critters and I have been going round and round with them and always end up in the same spot.  I want off the call center merry go-round!!  I'm not going to let desperation get the best of me this time.

Honestly, Jeff, everything about this was fishy from the start. My guess is that you actually lost your job with Xerox (or maybe left in a hurry, as you did with the gas company) and were concocting a story to cover for yet another sour turn of events.

Think about it: you went from being convinced that they were "jacking" with your pay to accepting a promotion to a position for which you have little qualification (and after just a month with this company) in an entirely different part of the country where you would be jobless for a two-month period but living off of the supposed generosity of a company that wouldn't even provide you with benefits for more than six months. Your moving date changed repeatedly, as did your moving plans, from no movers to movers to a quicky flight to SLC to meet face-to-face with a manager who was worried that you would back out prior to a sudden and unexplained rescinding of the job offer.

Simply put: W T F ...

Either you're flat-out lying about the circumstances surrounding the last couple of weeks, or Xerox (or Apple? Why did you mention that Apple was involved at one point?) invented a Rube Goldberg-esque scheme to get rid of you ... and trust me, companies like that don't bother with ridiculously intricate fabricated promotions in order to get rid of someone. They simply fire them.

What is the truth?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 09, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
Either you're flat-out lying about the circumstances surrounding the last couple of weeks, or Xerox (or Apple? Why did you mention that Apple was involved at one point?) invented a Rube Goldberg-esque scheme to get rid of you ... and trust me, companies like that don't bother with ridiculously intricate fabricated promotions in order to get rid of someone. They simply fire them.

Don't forget "I've already shredded that job offer because it's no good anymore."  Who ever heard of such a thing?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 09, 2012, 06:20:47 PM
Either you're flat-out lying about the circumstances surrounding the last couple of weeks, or Xerox (or Apple? Why did you mention that Apple was involved at one point?) invented a Rube Goldberg-esque scheme to get rid of you ... and trust me, companies like that don't bother with ridiculously intricate fabricated promotions in order to get rid of someone. They simply fire them.

Don't forget "I've already shredded that job offer because it's no good anymore."  Who ever heard of such a thing?


Yeah, I would never do that. Of course, we're all pretty sure that letter never existed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 09, 2012, 07:47:04 PM
Jeff - do you have any proof you can give us that this job is real?  Or that you still hold your current job?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smid on August 09, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
Think about it: you went from being convinced that they were "jacking" with your pay

You've been watching too much Office Space. They did that to Milton - stopped paying him, rather than fired him... "These things have a way of just sorting themselves out..." - that doesn't happen in real life.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 09, 2012, 08:15:34 PM
Busher, you foreshadowed this plot twist too much with the way you were speaking about things the last couple of days. Anyway, at least you can still see the local Shaman now when your aliments need to be addressed.

What do people think the next call center scam will be? I'm sure he'll tell us the next one is "really different" from all of the others.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 09, 2012, 11:29:38 PM
Jeff - do you have any proof you can give us that this job is real?  Or that you still hold your current job?

He already said that he no longer has the OK job, and is now unemployed:

Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?

No.  Even if I did, though, $8.75 an hour with gas prices skyrocketing would barely even get me gas money.

Look, I'm all for calling out Bushie on the preposterous-sounding nature of his story, but I don't see the point of now demanding proof.  Why do you care so much as to demand proof?  He tells his tale, we tell him we don't believe him, but it's his choice as to whether he wants to try to convince us otherwise.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 09, 2012, 11:30:55 PM
Jeff - do you have any proof you can give us that this job is real?  Or that you still hold your current job?

He already said that he no longer has the OK job, and is now unemployed:

Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?

No.  Even if I did, though, $8.75 an hour with gas prices skyrocketing would barely even get me gas money.

Look, I'm all for calling out Bushie on the preposterous-sounding nature of his story, but I don't see the point of now demanding proof.  Why do you care so much as to demand proof?  He tells his tale, we tell him we don't believe him, but it's his choice as to whether he wants to try to convince us otherwise.


Because if he's making this up just to fool with the forum, he probably won't be here much longer.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 09, 2012, 11:35:08 PM
I've moved past Salt Lake City, now, and will not answer any more questions about it.

Instead, I've got something else in mind.  My parents and I were talking about vo-tech classes.  I've found a program at a local vo-tech here in Oklahoma City, a Web Developer program.  It takes 9 months to complete at a total investment of $2,025.  Once the classes are complete, I can get a Web Developer job that would pay anywhere between $23-$33 an hour.  I can take the courses online for the same price as I can in the classroom.  I would just have to invest 15 hours a week in the course.  Of course, I would find a part-time job in the mean time to help out with the bills.  My parents have been generous enough to help me with my bills until I can get on my feet.  Web Developer is more closely aligned with my college degree.  This vo-tech has a very high job placement rate for its graduates.  I will talk to my parents about it on Friday, but I figure if I can bide my time for another year in Oklahoma City and take this course while working at a fast-food joint or something just to help out at least a little bit, then once I get a Web Developer job, I can pay my mother back for the course.  It's definitely something to think about, but I've got to act fast as the semester begins on August 17.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 09, 2012, 11:39:40 PM
Jeff - do you have any proof you can give us that this job is real?  Or that you still hold your current job?

He already said that he no longer has the OK job, and is now unemployed:

Do you still have your OK job, Bushie?

No.  Even if I did, though, $8.75 an hour with gas prices skyrocketing would barely even get me gas money.

Look, I'm all for calling out Bushie on the preposterous-sounding nature of his story, but I don't see the point of now demanding proof.  Why do you care so much as to demand proof?  He tells his tale, we tell him we don't believe him, but it's his choice as to whether he wants to try to convince us otherwise.


Because if he's making this up just to fool with the forum, he probably won't be here much longer.

I'll answer this one last question - I have proof and I was not making things up.  I don't purposefully or intentionally mislead the forum like you may think I do.  Everything I tell you is what actually goes on.  I will not provide the proof to the forum, because I don't have to provide any such information to people I've only met online.  I'm very transparent, but there are some things I will not disclose, one being personal documents of any kind, occupational, personal, medical, financial, etc.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: RI on August 09, 2012, 11:48:06 PM
Is this vo-tech program from a school that's a part of the Oklahoma DoCTE (CareerTech)?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on August 10, 2012, 12:29:58 AM
http://onion.com/meyjWs


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on August 10, 2012, 05:15:01 AM
I continue to maintain that this constitutes trolling. I derive no pleasure from my vindication.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 10, 2012, 05:17:47 AM
Sure, but some of our most entertaining posters are trolls. Nothing wrong with it, as long as it amuses us.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 10, 2012, 06:19:26 AM
I continue to maintain that this constitutes trolling. I derive no pleasure from my vindication.

I maintain that your maintaining of this is trolling.  I would derive pleasure from your absence from this thread.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 10, 2012, 09:42:20 AM
Hope you find something soon, Jeff. Honestly, you know that there have been a few of us out there who have given you some good advise, even going back to telling you not to leave your job at ONG. We know you need a job, but you keep jumping from call center to call center, and the same things happen. Hopefully you get some good prospects soon, and will get back on the right track. Just remember, some of us may have poke fun, but we dont want to see you fail.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Yelnoc on August 10, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
Instead, I've got something else in mind.  My parents and I were talking about vo-tech classes.  I've found a program at a local vo-tech here in Oklahoma City, a Web Developer program.  It takes 9 months to complete at a total investment of $2,025.
Wow, that's a lot.

HTML and CSS are really easy to pick up on your own, so I hope that is not all you are paying for.  Even if it includes Javascript, php, and some graphic designing stuff (how to make buttons, animations, etc) I still cannot imagine the course being worth that much.  Everything you need to be a freelance web developer can be learned on line.  I won't try to tell you whether or not to take the course, but I do suggest starting the learning process on your own before you even start the course.  If you want specific suggestions (from programs to use to tutorials to follow) PM me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 10, 2012, 11:05:53 AM
Instead, I've got something else in mind.  My parents and I were talking about vo-tech classes.  I've found a program at a local vo-tech here in Oklahoma City, a Web Developer program.  It takes 9 months to complete at a total investment of $2,025.
Wow, that's a lot.

HTML and CSS are really easy to pick up on your own, so I hope that is not all you are paying for.  Even if it includes Javascript, php, and some graphic designing stuff (how to make buttons, animations, etc) I still cannot imagine the course being worth that much.  Everything you need to be a freelance web developer can be learned on line.  I won't try to tell you whether or not to take the course, but I do suggest starting the learning process on your own before you even start the course.  If you want specific suggestions (from programs to use to tutorials to follow) PM me.

Here are the required courses - mind you they are in clock hours, not credit hours.

Career Major: Web Developer 1080 hours
Courses:

Internet Technology Fundamentals 90 hours
Web Authoring Languages 90 hours
Database Development 90 hours
Web Application Technologies 90 hours
Website Production 90 hours
Advanced Web Authoring Languages 90 hours
Advanced Web Application Technologies 90 hours
Interaction Design 90 hours
Project Collaboration 90 hours
Database Driven Applications 90 hours
Professional Enhancement 90 hours
Web Design and Development Capstone 90 hours


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 10, 2012, 11:09:23 AM
Most of the obvious holes in this latest story have been covered, but here's one in particular that stood out to me:

It sounds as if Xerox was tying pay to performance and $8.75 was the true minimum, and with good numbers one could earn $12/hour for that period, or even higher. However Bushie kept claiming he was offered that supervisor position because his numbers were so great. So why would he be making $8.75 then? By that standard he'd probably be getting above $12/hour.

What I'm guessing happened is he was fired again (or did poorly and was paid only the minimum) and the "new job" he was looking at in SLC is another one of those MLM scams.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 10, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
Hope you find something soon, Jeff. Honestly, you know that there have been a few of us out there who have given you some good advise, even going back to telling you not to leave your job at ONG. We know you need a job, but you keep jumping from call center to call center, and the same things happen. Hopefully you get some good prospects soon, and will get back on the right track. Just remember, some of us may have poke fun, but we dont want to see you fail.

Thanks, Andrew.  I know the forum wants to see me succeed.  I am finally going to follow the advice of the forum and stay away from the call center.  While I work on this vo-tech program, I'm going to find a job, any non-call center job, that pays something.  My father said it doesn't have to be a $15+ hour job, just as long as it brings in some income.  Even if I have to work part-time somewhere, it would be better than nothing.  Dad is willing to fork over the money for the program, as long as I (1) stick with it and (2) get a good job right after it.

Yelnoc,  it is high, but I figure the payout on the other end will quickly dwarf the investment.  I know how to do most of this stuff, but it seems I have to have the certificate to at least get my foot in the door.  I want to stay in the IT field because that's where the majority of the jobs nowadays are.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 10, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
Aside from the "shredding" incident (odd term there - you don't literally have a shredder do you?), it is rather disappointing Jeff that you "hid" that you had been canned from your latest job, until you got a multiple full court press on that one from several posters, and owned up to that at least. And no, I don't believe your story. Beyond what I said before as to the basis of my skepticism, even odder than that to which I alluded to before is that a Utah based outfit would respond positively to a resume out of Oklahoma, revealing a very ragged employment history, involving a job promotion to boot. That seems about as likely as Moses literally parting the Red Sea with a wave of his hand.

I kind of view your thread as akin to a novel, that just goes on forever, and ever, with most of the action as it were in your mind, rather than on the ground. Which is OK for a novel of a certain genre.  


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on August 10, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
I kind of view your thread as akin to a novel, that just goes on forever, and ever, with most of the action as it were in your mind, rather than on the ground. Which is OK for a novel of a certain genre. 

I'm rereading Hayashi's Floating Clouds right now, actually! I still need to track down Vagabond's Song.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on August 10, 2012, 12:56:31 PM
i can think of three scenarios:

1. the job was an mlm scam.  in that case it is probably best that it 'fell through.'

2. as j-mann said he got fired from xerox (or is it apple?) and concocted the whole slc story.

3.  he really did have a job offer and failed the background check.



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 10, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
Aside from the "shredding" incident (odd term there - you don't literally have a shredder do you?)

I don't think it is all that unusual for poors to have shredders, Torie - I think with Globalization/Deflation they cost about $5 now.  I know we had one in the family office from my earliest memories of the place (mid 1980s).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 10, 2012, 01:56:55 PM
i can think of three scenarios:

1. the job was an mlm scam.  in that case it is probably best that it 'fell through.'

2. as j-mann said he got fired from xerox (or is it apple?) and concocted the whole slc story.

3.  he really did have a job offer and failed the background check.



I will go with something similar to the online job he left Ok Nat Gas for.  It was an online offer, and the offer came over to him as a little letter in the body of an e-mail with no company letter head or anything like that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 10, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
He probably got canned from OK Gas also...which is why he was primed to get scammed.

Certainly, Bushie's work ethic is not bathed in prayer.  I think it is time for his parents to allow him to either sink or learn how to swim.  Maybe he could go live with opebo.



Oh it's jmfcst! Hi there. How are you doing buddy?  See you on the other side.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 10, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
what's the story on your sig...is that something you built in your backyard?

jmf, the browns Torie employs built it while he sipped daiquiris and toked on some weed.....be serious, there isn't any dirt under those fingernails ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 10, 2012, 02:38:24 PM
what's the story on your sig...is that something you built in your backyard?

jmf, the browns Torie employs built it while he sipped daiquiris and toked on some weed.....be serious, there isn't any dirt under those fingernails ;)

Actually the overseer was a very talented white boy. I needed a specialist to handle the rocks, some of which weighed 3000 pounds or more, and required a two story crane to put in place. Fortunately the adjacent lots on either side of the house were empty, so the cranes could drive onto them - otherwise, the crane would have had to have been massive, lifting the coco flat rocks over the house itself - a rather frightening prospect if one dropped! I selected each rock myself at the rock quarry. I'm fussy about my rocks - they needed to be big and beautiful!  Behind the main water fall, is a love seat, where one can make out behind a wall of pulsating water. :)

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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 10, 2012, 04:45:47 PM
I'm not answering any more questions about Salt Lake City, so your suspicions will have to remain just that.  I'm not going to do anything to prove or dispel them.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 10, 2012, 04:56:06 PM
I am going to lock this thread for a while.  It's become boring even for me, so it's going under lock and key.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on August 10, 2012, 04:58:57 PM
I'm fine with this thread being locked for now, but come September 30th, I'm fully holding you to give us an update on your weight.  Moving is a big deal, but it's no excuse.  This is your health at stake.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 14, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
I thought I would pop in and briefly unlock this thread with a little update.  I am currently in the process of job searching.  I've got a possibility with J-Mann up in Manhattan, Kansas.  I'll have a phone interview with him by the end of the week.  My eyes have also been opened to the possibility of working for the Federal Aviation Administration.  I'm currently looking at the jobs available at the FAA and when and where I can take the Civil Service Test.  I've still got a prospect or two in Northern Utah.  I am looking elsewhere around the country, as well.  I've just got to make sure if I do find something outside Oklahoma City that it is a solid, confirmed job that will pay well enough to support uprooting my life here and moving.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 14, 2012, 06:47:35 PM
Possible jobs in Kansas, but El Reno was too far?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 14, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
Possible jobs in Kansas, but El Reno was too far?

I would be living here for El Reno, and it would be too far of a drive.  I would, naturally, have to move to Kansas (or Utah or wherever), and I would position myself closer to my work place than I currently am to El Reno.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 14, 2012, 11:31:16 PM
I am really looking forward to tomorrow.  I’ve got a phone interview with J-Mann tomorrow at 2:00 pm!!  I’ve also got eyes and ears in Salt Lake City, as well, thanks to Jamespol!!  I’ve got more prospects outside of Oklahoma than I do inside Oklahoma!  Wherever God leads, I’ll go.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 14, 2012, 11:54:28 PM
I’ve got a phone interview with J-Mann tomorrow at 2:00 pm!!

Why not just conduct the interview in this thread?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 15, 2012, 12:02:59 AM
I’ve got a phone interview with J-Mann tomorrow at 2:00 pm!!

Why not just conduct the interview in this thread?


I'm sure you'll get a full overview afterwards.

If nothing else, my hope is that some advice and direction in a more-formal setting than the forum will help Jeff get on the right track.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 15, 2012, 01:17:50 AM
There will be an overview afterwards.  I somehow find it a courtesy to let the forum know how I'm doing since the forum has invested so much time in my journey.  I criticize you all quite a bit, but you all do give pretty good advice.  There is some noise and some static, but most of it is sound advice.  I may not follow the advice publicly, but I do think about them and occasionally do implement them.

When I joined the forum 8 years ago before the 2004 Presidential Election, I never imagined the forum would be useful for more than just political education.  Of course, I never envisioned myself still struggling to find stable employment and still living largely off my parents dole at 8 months shy of my 31st birthday.  Now, not only is the forum being useful for more than just politics, one current and one former member are being proactive in helping me.  Thank you, J-Mann and Jamespol.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 15, 2012, 02:22:25 AM
So have you already given back the money for the Kenya trip?

And how are you paying your day-to-day bills since you quit your job?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 15, 2012, 09:54:42 AM
So have you already given back the money for the Kenya trip?

And how are you paying your day-to-day bills since you quit your job?

No, I haven't given the money back, yet.

My mother and dad have been gracious enough to help me out with the bills.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 15, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
I hope BushKE can find a stable job that doesn't involve a call center. I also still stress he gets his life in order in the US before using all that money to go to Kenya. Priorities, priorities... if he does want to go over there in a few years, he needs to have a job and a life here independent of his parents.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 15, 2012, 01:24:45 PM
I hope BushKE can find a stable job that doesn't involve a call center. I also still stress he gets his life in order in the US before using all that money to go to Kenya. Priorities, priorities... if he does want to go over there in a few years, he needs to have a job and a life here independent of his parents.

I agree wholeheartedly with you, Andrew.  I put in two applications to call centers here in Oklahoma City, but I'm thinking about withdrawing them.  I don't need to keep going through that endless hamster wheel.  I am actually looking more outside of Oklahoma than I am inside Oklahoma for the very reason that you mentioned which is I desperately need to get out from under their shadow.  As I said last night, I am 8 months away being 31 years old and I need to get started.  I've got the phone interview with J-Mann here in 40 minutes so we'll see how that goes.  My only stipulation for moving outside Oklahoma is that either 1) I remain within a half-days drive or 2) be very close to a major airport so I can zip home if they have any medical needs.  It is my obligation to do that since my brother still has 22 months left in the Navy and is currently aboard ship so he cannot come home.  Right now, though, I do want to remain in Oklahoma at least another month as my mother has been in the hospital since Sunday with severe stomach pains.  They had to go in this morning and take out the right side of her colon and she'll be in the hospital another 4-7 days.  So, to be honest, i'm not doing a whole lot of job searching right now because my attention has been on her.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 15, 2012, 01:31:24 PM
Don't be afraid to leave Oklahoma. I remember when I was looking at colleges, most of my high school class stayed in South Carolina for the 4 years because they didn't want to change scenery, but I went to North Carolina because I wanted to get out from under my parents rule. I am so happy I did, because I had so many experiences and freedoms I would never have had if I lived in the same town. I have always maintained that it isn't healthy to be that close in proximity to your parents. Love them with all your heart, but make a life for yourself. You shouldn't have to stick around to care for them or keep them company.

And I would not go back to a call center. You've tried it over and over again. To frame it as Christian as possible, maybe god is telling you that isn't for you. We all have failures, which is what makes life the way it is. Why not look at something like you were doing at the utility company? Surely you can find work there. Do the laws in OK state that companies can give you bad references or just that you worked there? Before this whole mess started, it sounded like you had a stable life, a stable job and could pay your bills. Go back to what works, not what you think might work or something that is a huge risk.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 15, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
...most of my high school class stayed in South Carolina for the 4 years because they didn't want to change scenery, but I went to North Carolina...

Wow, so exotic!  Was there a culture shock?  Hard to get used to the food?

Just kidding, good for you for going to university out-of-state, even if next door.  Though keep in mind this option is only open to the wealthy.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 15, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
Jesus man, you get the point.. :P I was far enough away from my parents to where I didn't see them but during holidays. BushKE is 30 and still sees them every day - hell he still eats with them almost daily. He needs a new lady, fresh, young, full of life to really kickstart him!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 15, 2012, 05:29:04 PM
The interview is done and I am at the hospital with my mother for another 90 minutes.  I walked away from the interview extremely encouraged.  J-Mann was very cordial and courteous.  I have applied for a position with his company and while nothing is guaranteed, I feel very good about my chances.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 15, 2012, 05:51:10 PM
Throw yo hands in the air (for BuskKE), and wave em like you just don't care, and if you like fish and grits and all that pimp s**t everybody let me hear ya say ohhh yeahhhhh


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 15, 2012, 06:10:27 PM
...most of my high school class stayed in South Carolina for the 4 years because they didn't want to change scenery, but I went to North Carolina...

Wow, so exotic!  Was there a culture shock?  Hard to get used to the food?

http://www.theonion.com/articles/that-trip-to-canada-really-broadened-my-horizons,10812/


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 15, 2012, 06:35:13 PM
It's clear that God wants UndecidedKE to go to Thailand and live with opebo. And if he doesn't, we'll just have to write an Update! fan fiction where he does.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 16, 2012, 12:02:58 AM
I have decided to suspend my job search until Monday.  With my mother in the hospital at least until Saturday or Sunday, I need to be up there with her as much as possible the next two days.  The only way I'll jump is if J-Mann's company were to call me for a face to face interview.  I will still respond accordingly to job ads, but I will not actively job search until Sunday's paper comes out and get started acting on it on Monday.

Again, I feel very encouraged about the conversation I had with J-Mann Wednesday Afternoon.  I really think it could go places.  It would be awesome and weird to work with a fellow Atlasian at the same company.  I will be jumping at the chance if it were to come to fruition.  At the very least, even if his company does not call me, I still hung up the phone Wednesday afternoon very encouraged and know which direction I need to head in.  I've also got my good friend and former fellow Atlasian, jamespol looking for me in Northern Utah.  I will be calling on a Utah prospect probably on Monday, 27 August 2012 after my mother is safely back home from the hospital.  I would call this Monday, but I don't want to get called up there for an interview and she still need me.  This particular company has classes starting every other Wednesday and is Customer Service, but it is not a call center.  It's actually located about 30 minutes north of Salt Lake City in the town of Layton, which is just south of Ogden.  I will also get other feelers out in other cities across the country looking for me.  My next city may be Kansas City.  After KCMO, it will be Albuquerque, New Mexico.  I've got places to look that won't run dry.  As I said previously, I am looking more outside Oklahoma than I am inside Oklahoma.  I think it is that critical I get out of Oklahoma.  I even think Tulsa is still too close.  I want somewhere that will take at least a half day to drive there.  Manhattan is 5 hours from Oklahoma City, which is just far enough.  Dallas is too close (3 1/2 hours) and Wichita is too close (3 hours).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 16, 2012, 12:46:06 AM
...most of my high school class stayed in South Carolina for the 4 years because they didn't want to change scenery, but I went to North Carolina...

Wow, so exotic!  Was there a culture shock?  Hard to get used to the food?

Just kidding, good for you for going to university out-of-state, even if next door.  Though keep in mind this option is only open to the wealthy.

My family certainly wouldn't be considered wealthy, though granted due to reciprocity agreements going to college in Minnesota for North Dakota residents is still considered in-state.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 16, 2012, 06:48:30 AM
I've also got my good friend and former fellow Atlasian, jamespol looking for me in Northern Utah. 

Ahem......mistake.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 16, 2012, 08:49:13 AM
  I've also got my good friend and former fellow Atlasian, jamespol looking for me in Northern Utah. 

Yeah, you also had someone who had a job opening for you in Oklahoma that paid pretty well too, and was still fairly close to your home.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 16, 2012, 08:57:59 AM
  I've also got my good friend and former fellow Atlasian, jamespol looking for me in Northern Utah. 

Yeah, you also had someone who had a job opening for you in Oklahoma that paid pretty well too, and was still fairly close to your home.

I know, but I am of the opinion that staying in Oklahoma may be a mistake as it would be too easy to ask Mom for help.  I need to get away.  Ive got something brewing in Utah.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 16, 2012, 09:25:49 AM
Dude you cannot trust jamespol......


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 16, 2012, 09:55:52 AM

Why not? Just because he was a forum troll, does not mean he is a troll in real life.  He actually has stable employment in Park City, UT just east of SLC.  You cannot judge the man.

That said, this next Utah possibility has nothing to do with James.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 16, 2012, 09:57:47 AM
Don't be afraid to leave Oklahoma. I remember when I was looking at colleges, most of my high school class stayed in South Carolina for the 4 years because they didn't want to change scenery, but I went to North Carolina because I wanted to get out from under my parents rule. I am so happy I did, because I had so many experiences and freedoms I would never have had if I lived in the same town. I have always maintained that it isn't healthy to be that close in proximity to your parents. Love them with all your heart, but make a life for yourself. You shouldn't have to stick around to care for them or keep them company.

And I would not go back to a call center. You've tried it over and over again. To frame it as Christian as possible, maybe god is telling you that isn't for you. We all have failures, which is what makes life the way it is. Why not look at something like you were doing at the utility company? Surely you can find work there. Do the laws in OK state that companies can give you bad references or just that you worked there? Before this whole mess started, it sounded like you had a stable life, a stable job and could pay your bills. Go back to what works, not what you think might work or something that is a huge risk.

I am definitely not afraid to leave Oklahoma. As I mentioned earlier, I think its actually a detriment to stay in Oklahoma.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 16, 2012, 01:25:36 PM
Jesus man, you get the point.. :P I was far enough away from my parents to where I didn't see them but during holidays. BushKE is 30 and still sees them every day - hell he still eats with them almost daily. He needs a new lady, fresh, young, full of life to really kickstart him!

Yes, I get you, for sure, was just having a little fun.  I myself went to college partially in my own state, just a few hours from home (though also in NY state partially as well).  But yes, the key is to be at least far enough away that you rarely see the parents, and they can't just 'pop by'.

As for your ambition for the BushOK loins.. perhaps you set the bar a bridge too far, my friend.  Lets help him get to the point where he can find it, before we advise him to use it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 16, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
I have made my desire to leave Oklahoma crystal-clear to my family.  They fully agree, but want me to keep ALL my options open including Oklahoma.  They would prefer me in Kansas instead of Utah because its close.  I reiterated my criteria for a place to live would be either a days drive or a major airport nearby in case I need to zip home, because my grandmother is almost 87, dad is almost 61 and mom is almost 60 and is starting to see a declination in her health.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 16, 2012, 11:29:09 PM

Why not? Just because he was a forum troll, does not mean he is a troll in real life.  He actually has stable employment in Park City, UT just east of SLC.  You cannot judge the man.

That said, this next Utah possibility has nothing to do with James.

His trolling is just the latter stages.  I think he revealed enough about himself early on to show that he's too unstable to trust.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 16, 2012, 11:35:09 PM

Why not? Just because he was a forum troll, does not mean he is a troll in real life.  He actually has stable employment in Park City, UT just east of SLC.  You cannot judge the man.

That said, this next Utah possibility has nothing to do with James.

His trolling is just the latter stages.  I think he revealed enough about himself early on to show that he's too unstable to trust.

I will admit I do have a lot of trust in humanity, sometimes to my hurt, but I do trust not only jamespol, but texasindy as well.  I know at the very least they would be able to show me around the Salt Lake City Metro and make it easier to get used to.  With those two, I only have 3 friends in Northern Utah and my closest family is in Las Vegas, which is a good 5 hour drive south on I-15.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 17, 2012, 05:12:34 AM
You guys remember RickRoll? I wonder what he'd have to say about all of the recent happenings, especially the Kenya stuff?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 17, 2012, 09:47:20 AM
Are you still going to the IHOP?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 17, 2012, 09:54:18 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 17, 2012, 09:59:29 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 17, 2012, 10:03:51 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 17, 2012, 10:18:18 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 17, 2012, 10:25:04 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

We are super cereal. We're getting ready for the final day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on August 17, 2012, 06:29:39 PM
Bushie, whatever you choose to do in SLC...hope your patterns change, for your own sake. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 17, 2012, 06:41:21 PM
Bushie, whatever you choose to do in SLC...hope your patterns change, for your own sake. :P

Thanks, Realist!

My dad right now is not making sense.  Yesterday, he said to keep all my options open including Oklahoma.  Today, he is saying to only look in Oklahoma because he would have to pay for relocation.  As soon as Mom feels like it, I'm going to talk to her.  She has consistently said to keep my options open inside and outside of Oklahoma.  Dad even cheered when Utah was canceled last week.  Mom was genuinely disappointed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 17, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Bushie, just find an f'ing job, and work at holding it. KISS baby. You need to focus on just one thing, finding and holding a job, and showing some personal discipline.  The rest is noise. Basically you are a man of 31 who is veritably powerless, which to me seems totally emasculating. Get some power. That involves being economically independent.

But I think you kind of enjoy these posts from me and others, as in ignoring them. In that sense, I am beginning to wonder if I am contributing to your enabling.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 17, 2012, 10:43:06 PM
As far as trusting jamespol.  The guy has grown up a lot since his trolling days. While I haven't seen him in person, I've watched him grow.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 18, 2012, 02:47:22 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

I'll outdrink my counterpart any day. ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 18, 2012, 04:37:19 AM
While I haven't seen him in person, I've watched him grow.

Oh my.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 18, 2012, 09:55:05 AM
Tell jamespol to come back to the forum. We all miss him!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 18, 2012, 04:08:28 PM

That made me lol too


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MasterJedi on August 18, 2012, 10:25:46 PM
If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 18, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on August 18, 2012, 10:43:45 PM
If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.

You have no desire to be slim and fit?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 18, 2012, 10:56:16 PM
If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.

You have no desire to be slim and fit?

Not really.  The reason is this body is going to die whether it's slim or fat.  I want to let it live as long as possible, so I still want to lose another 35-45 pounds, but I have no desire to be obsessed about it.  I'm more concerned with the health of my soul which will live forever instead of the health of my body which is only temporary.  I'm not done losing weight, I still have the desire to lose quite a bit more, but I'm not going to fret over it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on August 19, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
Didn't god/jesus ask us to treat our body as a temple? Why would you put crap food in it?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 19, 2012, 12:49:30 AM
If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.

Big Brother?  That doesn't seem like the type of show that would be healthy for you.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on August 19, 2012, 01:06:49 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

I'll outdrink my counterpart any day. ;)

...No comment.

Anyway, I am dead serious about BushOK's weight.  September 30th.  245 pounds.

And no, falling below 245 between now and then but going back over it by the target date doesn't count.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Smash255 on August 19, 2012, 01:22:43 AM
If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.

You have no desire to be slim and fit?

Not really.  The reason is this body is going to die whether it's slim or fat.  I want to let it live as long as possible, so I still want to lose another 35-45 pounds, but I have no desire to be obsessed about it.  I'm more concerned with the health of my soul which will live forever instead of the health of my body which is only temporary.  I'm not done losing weight, I still have the desire to lose quite a bit more, but I'm not going to fret over it.

Just because someone wants to be in good shape and fit doesn't mean they need to obsess over it.  Eating right doesn't men you can never partake it junk food and have to obsess over everything you have, it just means being smarter and after awhile basically becomes 2nd nature so you don't have to obsess over it.  Same with exercising, it doesn't men you need to spend hours and hours at the gym and fretting over missing a day.  However, getting regular exercise does keep you active and more healthy.  Also when talking about weight, obviously you need to lose quite a bit, but you shouldn't just be looking at the pounds body fat% is even more important.  


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Sbane on August 19, 2012, 01:23:26 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

I'll outdrink my counterpart any day. ;)

...No comment.

Anyway, I am dead serious about BushOK's weight.  September 30th.  245 pounds.

And no, falling below 245 between now and then but going back over it by the target date doesn't count.
How will you know what his weight really is?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on August 19, 2012, 10:30:02 AM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

I'll outdrink my counterpart any day. ;)

...No comment.

Anyway, I am dead serious about BushOK's weight.  September 30th.  245 pounds.

And no, falling below 245 between now and then but going back over it by the target date doesn't count.
How will you know what his weight really is?

He's a good Christian man, I don't suppose he'd blatantly lie to us.

That being said, I was thinking I'd request a picture of his scale.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 19, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
I find this personally embarrassing, but I am at the point where it must be done. One pic is three years ago, the other a couple of weeks ago. All it takes is will and personal discipline, and once you get with the program, it is not hard. What we have here, is neither - just pathetic excuses. But it's Jeff's life. I find it all quite sad - and depressing really.
 
()()


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 19, 2012, 10:52:18 AM
I preferred you when you were a swarthy Mexican day laborer, Torie.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 19, 2012, 11:23:10 AM
Torie was hardly 'fat' before.  

By the way, BushOK, if we may pry - whatever happened to that telephone interview with what's-his-name, the helpful forum member..


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 19, 2012, 12:48:59 PM
Torie was hardly 'fat' before.  

By the way, BushOK, if we may pry - whatever happened to that telephone interview with what's-his-name, the helpful forum member..

Opebo, you've forgotten my name already!? I'm wounded ... we've had such fun together over the years!

My conversation with Jeff was preliminary to any formal interview with my company, which would be handled through human resources first. We discussed his current situation, looked at an assessment which covered his strengths as a contributor and a leader (with the goal of making him aware of those strengths so that he can focus on them in interview situations), and did a resume critique so that he could make his look stronger. We have one position at my company that Jeff may be qualified for, and I encouraged him to apply after he'd cleaned up his resume.

He came across well over the phone (more confident in tone than I would have imagined) and honestly has some skills of which I wasn't aware. Jeff has potential ... he just needs to focus on his strengths, cut the fat in his life (literally, as well as in terms of poor advice and the following of whims) and commit to turning decent employment into a career.

I find this personally embarrassing, but I am at the point where it must be done. One pic is three years ago, the other a couple of weeks ago. All it takes is will and personal discipline, and once you get with the program, it is not hard. What we have here, is neither - just pathetic excuses. But it's Jeff's life. I find it all quite sad - and depressing really.
 
()()

Torie, you look great! Nice work! I hadn't worked out ... well ... ever in my life up until about six months ago. I am close to turning 30 and though I was "healthy" -- underweight, in fact -- I knew that I could and should look and feel a lot better. In that time, I've gained 25 pounds of muscle, feel a lot better and have a pretty nice looking body. It's all possible, you've just got to commit.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 19, 2012, 12:59:37 PM
Opebo, you've forgotten my name already!? I'm wounded ... we've had such fun together over the years!

My conversation with Jeff was preliminary to any formal interview with my company, which would be handled through human resources first. We discussed his current situation, looked at an assessment which covered his strengths as a contributor and a leader (with the goal of making him aware of those strengths so that he can focus on them in interview situations), and did a resume critique so that he could make his look stronger. We have one position at my company that Jeff may be qualified for, and I encouraged him to apply after he'd cleaned up his resume.

He came across well over the phone (more confident in tone than I would have imagined) and honestly has some skills of which I wasn't aware. Jeff has potential ... he just needs to focus on his strengths, cut the fat in his life (literally, as well as in terms of poor advice and the following of whims) and commit to turning decent employment into a career.

Sorry, J-Mann, it was more of a temporary lapse, now I place your name and character.  I am after all getting very old, and you have been largely absent for a long time.

I'm happy to hear the positive tone of your assessment (though your history suggests you are a rather extremely positive person), but it doesn't surprise me.  I have always surmised that BushOK is probably a competent and rather normal middle-American.  The fact that he is mis-categorized as some kind of 'pitiable case' (or even 'loser') here says a lot about our forum's misunderstanding of both the terrible nature of the economy and employment nowadays, and also those same middle Americans.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 19, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
Indeed, the discussion with J-Mann went extremely well.  I came out of that discussion really enlightened and encouraged.  I did apply for that position and, hopefully, I'll hear something this week.  Manhattan, Kansas would be great since it's only 5 hours from Oklahoma City and only 90 minutes from other family in Kansas City.  I look forward to hopefully having a formal face-to-face interview pretty soon.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on August 19, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
Indeed, the discussion with J-Mann went extremely well.  I came out of that discussion really enlightened and encouraged.  I did apply for that position and, hopefully, I'll hear something this week.  Manhattan, Kansas would be great since it's only 5 hours from Oklahoma City and only 90 minutes from other family in Kansas City.  I look forward to hopefully having a formal face-to-face interview pretty soon.

I thought you wanted to be somewhere different from OK.

EDIT: Oh, college town. Nice (I guess?)...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 19, 2012, 04:12:43 PM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

I'll outdrink my counterpart any day. ;)

...No comment.

Anyway, I am dead serious about BushOK's weight.  September 30th.  245 pounds.

And no, falling below 245 between now and then but going back over it by the target date doesn't count.
How will you know what his weight really is?

He's a good Christian man, I don't suppose he'd blatantly lie to us.

Ummmm.......Pages 135-136 of this thread.....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 19, 2012, 05:56:53 PM

Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

Ah, ok, mod reivew......but Mikado's a serious man (except when he's drinking and whoring around), so get to losing the weight ;)

I'll outdrink my counterpart any day. ;)

...No comment.

Anyway, I am dead serious about BushOK's weight.  September 30th.  245 pounds.

And no, falling below 245 between now and then but going back over it by the target date doesn't count.
How will you know what his weight really is?

He's a good Christian man, I don't suppose he'd blatantly lie to us.

Ummmm.......Pages 135-136 of this thread.....


Except everything on those two pages is truth.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 20, 2012, 09:13:08 AM
It's beginning to look like we'll be moving forward with Kansas.  One of the managers just emailed me back this morning clarifying  some of my expertise and confirming I am able and willing to relocate.  I take that as good news, because he could have just flat out said no.  We shall see.

EDIT:  I have a phone interview at 2:00 today!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on August 20, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
It's beginning to look like we'll be moving forward with Kansas.  One of the managers just emailed me back this morning clarifying  some of my expertise and confirming I am able and willing to relocate.  I take that as good news, because he could have just flat out said no.  We shall see.

EDIT:  I have a phone interview at 2:00 today!

Godspeed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 20, 2012, 03:05:04 PM
How tall are you, BushOK?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 20, 2012, 03:10:03 PM
It's beginning to look like we'll be moving forward with Kansas.  One of the managers just emailed me back this morning clarifying  some of my expertise and confirming I am able and willing to relocate.  I take that as good news, because he could have just flat out said no.  We shall see.

EDIT:  I have a phone interview at 2:00 today!

Godspeed.

The interview is over and I feel great!  He was very impressed with my qualities and my expertise.  He is forwarding me to the hiring manager who should request a phone interview.  After that, will come a face to face interview.  I would be starting in September.  We talked pay and benefits which is a good sign.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 20, 2012, 03:10:24 PM

5'8"


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 20, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-farm-labor-shortage-worst-172326668.html


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 20, 2012, 05:26:42 PM

You should really try to get down to 190 at the very least then, purely for health reasons. You'd still be pretty plump.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 20, 2012, 09:51:55 PM

You should really try to get down to 190 at the very least then, purely for health reasons. You'd still be pretty plump.

Really, my ideal weight would be around 180.  I realize that unless i make a major lifestyle change, it's going to be near impossible to get down under 200.  It's not impossible, but near impossible.  I figure 205-210 is a heck of a lot better than 285 where I started all this.  I'll still be borderline obese, but I'll be a lot healthier being only 25-30 pounds overweight instead of 100+ pounds.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on August 20, 2012, 09:53:59 PM
A major lifestyle change is precisely what you need.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 20, 2012, 09:59:18 PM

You should really try to get down to 190 at the very least then, purely for health reasons. You'd still be pretty plump.

Really, my ideal weight would be around 180.  I realize that unless i make a major lifestyle change, it's going to be near impossible to get down under 200.  It's not impossible, but near impossible.  I figure 205-210 is a heck of a lot better than 285 where I started all this.  I'll still be borderline obese, but I'll be a lot healthier being only 25-30 pounds overweight instead of 100+ pounds.

I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on August 20, 2012, 10:20:44 PM
I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 20, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Guys you have to crawl before you can walk, walk before you can run...etc.   

Bushie, keep chipping away at it and keep making new goals once you've completed the small ones. You've already done a good job losing some weight. However, from your posts I'd recommend that you really should start exercising more and eat better than you do. You'll feel miles better and have more energy in every facet of life.  I personally got huge so I know it can be hard.  While, Ive managed to lose a lot and I still want to keep going. View it that you are rewarding yourself with exercise and good food.   And don't make some spiritual excuse: A fitter BuskOk will be able to that much more efficiently serve the lord :).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 20, 2012, 11:41:22 PM
Guys you have to crawl before you can walk, walk before you can run...etc.   

Bushie, keep chipping away at it and keep making new goals once you've completed the small ones. You've already done a good job losing some weight. However, from your posts I'd recommend that you really should start exercising more and eat better than you do. You'll feel miles better and have more energy in every facet of life.  I personally got huge so I know it can be hard.  While, Ive managed to lose a lot and I still want to keep going. View it that you are rewarding yourself with exercise and good food.   And don't make some spiritual excuse: A fitter BuskOk will be able to that much more efficiently serve the lord :).

Thanks, Patrick.  I am definitely pressing on toward my weight loss goal.  My goal is just to be healthier than I am now.  My first goal is working down to the goal that Mikado set - 245.  We'll set a new goal after I meet that.  To use an Olympic analogy, there's no sense in looking at the tenth hurdle when the first hurdle is approaching.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 21, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
This is exciting! First, a potential job and then a new lady friend hopefully! Things are looking up up up!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 21, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 21, 2012, 01:22:22 PM
This is exciting! First, a potential job and then a new lady friend hopefully! Things are looking up up up!

First things first.  Lets get the job, first.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 21, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
This is exciting! First, a potential job and then a new lady friend hopefully! Things are looking up up up!

First things first.  Lets get the job, first.

A lady would make the time between job searches more pleasant, no?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 21, 2012, 02:16:30 PM
This is exciting! First, a potential job and then a new lady friend hopefully! Things are looking up up up!

First things first.  Lets get the job, first.

A lady would make the time between job searches more pleasant, no?

Also, would create even more strain on the wallet.  Ladies are expensive!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 21, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
This is exciting! First, a potential job and then a new lady friend hopefully! Things are looking up up up!

First things first.  Lets get the job, first.

A lady would make the time between job searches more pleasant, no?

Also, would create even more strain on the wallet.  Ladies are expensive!

Not if you don't feed them!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on August 21, 2012, 02:43:37 PM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

lol opebo they're not "abnormal". That's a normal weight. I'm 6'2" and weigh 145 lbs. Perhaps you could consider me "abnormal" in that sense but certainly not adult men weighing 165-190.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 21, 2012, 02:47:31 PM
145lbs and you're 6 2? Jesus you must be thin as a rail, TJ! I weigh about the same and I'm only 5' 9" or 5' 10". You need to hit the weights for the ladies just like BushKE!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 21, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

lol opebo they're not "abnormal". That's a normal weight. I'm 6'2" and weigh 145 lbs. Perhaps you could consider me "abnormal" in that sense but certainly not adult men weighing 165-190.

Holy crap, that's skinny...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 21, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

lol opebo they're not "abnormal". That's a normal weight. I'm 6'2" and weigh 145 lbs. Perhaps you could consider me "abnormal" in that sense but certainly not adult men weighing 165-190.

They are certainly 'abnormal' in the sense of being unusual, particularly Torie.  Nathan is perhaps closer to normal, but still, the point is they are setting the bar far, far to high for BushOK.  Tories BMI is around 22, which is in the 10th percentile for his age group, and the other guy is having a BMI of around 23, in the 25th percentile for his age group.

Encouraging a very over weight man to shoot for that which is statistically unusual is not advisable.  My BMI of around 26-27 is a much more realistic target, and roughly average for my age group.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 21, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
Well, my mother is home from the hospital after 9 nights in the hospital for colitis.  She had her first meal in 10 days this evening with roast and mashed potatoes.

On the job front, In addition to the Kansas position, I've got another very strong position in Oklahoma City that is brewing, with the Federal Aviation Administration.  Both pay really well, the one in Kansas paying between $35,000-$40,000 and the one in Oklahoma City paying $14.91/hr + $3.50/hr health insurance allowance.  I've got a live interview with the Oklahoma City position this Thursday morning at 8:30 am with an answer by Friday.  I should have a call with a possible phone or live interview with the Kansas position by tomorrow.  I'm really torn on which one to accept should be they both offer me a position.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 21, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
The Federal Aviation Commission? Someone find that opebo quote from earlier in the thread about grabbing hold of government jobs and never letting go.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 21, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
The Federal Aviation Commission? Someone find that opebo quote from earlier in the thread about grabbing hold of government jobs and never letting go.

It is the FAA along side the Chickasaw Indian Nation.

I remember that comment you speak of.  That is one of my major considerations and a huge plus in its favor.  Plus, I should have an answer by the end of the week.  There are 2 positions and they are interviewing 4 candidates including myself.  That's a 50/50 chance.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 21, 2012, 10:34:47 PM
To be honest, though, my heart is still in Kansas and if given the choice, I would still probably choose Kansas.  I need to get out of Oklahoma.  I need to get out from under my parents' shadow and out from under their thumb.  I love them to death, but I'm almost 31 years old and it's time to start living for Jeff Brown.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 22, 2012, 02:56:49 AM
How are your Kenyan children doing lately?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 22, 2012, 03:51:07 AM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

lol opebo they're not "abnormal". That's a normal weight. I'm 6'2" and weigh 145 lbs. Perhaps you could consider me "abnormal" in that sense but certainly not adult men weighing 165-190.

Holy crap, that's skinny...

Yeah, I'm seven inches shorter and I weigh the same. Wow.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 22, 2012, 10:46:19 AM
I'm glad we're not in a rush to go to Kenya any longer...ugh (http://www.france24.com/en/20120822-dozens-hacked-burnt-death-kenya-village-attack-ethnic-clash-woman-children)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 22, 2012, 11:05:39 AM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

Do I look emaciated to you?  Maybe I need another shirtless snap.  :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 22, 2012, 11:06:56 AM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

Do I look emaciated to you?  Maybe I need another shirtless snap.  :P

I was going to say "wrong forum" for that, Torie, but maybe not.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 22, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Oh Bushie! You're heart is in so many states. I'm sure that soon we will find out that you left you're heart in San Fransisco.

Anywho, y'all are so tiny! I'm a real man. I'm 6 foot, and an average weight of 387lbs. People love it. I get special seating and everything!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on August 22, 2012, 12:16:47 PM
In my defense, I have a slight amount of paunch because I lack muscle tone, but I'm still pretty skinny, yeah. Regardless, Bushie's a lot shorter than I am.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 22, 2012, 01:56:24 PM
What would the job with the FAA be?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 02:09:52 PM
IT Network Tech


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 22, 2012, 02:20:23 PM
Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

Do I look emaciated to you?  Maybe I need another shirtless snap.  :P

I didn't say you look bad, Torie, just that your level of thin-ness is a bit unrealistic for BushOK, and not really necessary.  I have one older friend here in his late fifities who is has become a compulsive dieter, and he does verge into that emaciated look a bit.  You I think exercise enough to avoid that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 03:18:58 PM
Kansas interview Round 3 this Friday at 10:00 am!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 22, 2012, 03:43:40 PM
Bushie don't go making any big announcements til you're sitting behind a desk in Kansas on the clock.....these false alarms are driving everyone here and on your fb nutso.  JMO.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 04:02:33 PM
Bushie don't go making any big announcements til you're sitting behind a desk in Kansas on the clock.....these false alarms are driving everyone here and on your fb nutso.  JMO.

I will wait at least until I have a job offer letter.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 22, 2012, 06:59:16 PM
On the plus side, I'd at least be able to confirm it! I'm proud of Jeff -- he's made it fairly far in a hiring process with a legitimate company that is not a call center! It's typically competitive to land one of our positions, but I'm very happy to see him going through this process and (apparently) putting in a strong showing.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
I'm 6 feet 1 inch, and weigh 165-170 pounds.

I'm between 6'2" and 6'3" and I weigh around 175-190. Your target weight should be at least in that range, Bushie.

Surely you realize you guys are extremely abnormal.

lol opebo they're not "abnormal". That's a normal weight. I'm 6'2" and weigh 145 lbs. Perhaps you could consider me "abnormal" in that sense but certainly not adult men weighing 165-190.

Holy crap, that's skinny...

i am roughly 6'2" and at the end of my drinking career (fall of 2008) i was down to 135.

now i try to hold it just a notch below 200.  i am about 195 now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 08:16:23 PM
On the plus side, I'd at least be able to confirm it! I'm proud of Jeff -- he's made it fairly far in a hiring process with a legitimate company that is not a call center! It's typically competitive to land one of our positions, but I'm very happy to see him going through this process and (apparently) putting in a strong showing.

Thank you for the vote of confidence, Jesse!  Mom and I were talking this afternoon and if I were given a choice between Kansas and Oklahoma City, I would choose Kansas.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 22, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
On the plus side, I'd at least be able to confirm it! I'm proud of Jeff -- he's made it fairly far in a hiring process with a legitimate company that is not a call center! It's typically competitive to land one of our positions, but I'm very happy to see him going through this process and (apparently) putting in a strong showing.

Thank you for the vote of confidence, Jesse!  Mom and I were talking this afternoon and if I were given a choice between Kansas and Oklahoma City, I would choose Kansas.

Just so you know ... if you do happen to make the cut and move here, I'm not going to take it easy on you. But I can guarantee you'll be better off out of Oklahoma and with a little solid mentorship.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
On the plus side, I'd at least be able to confirm it! I'm proud of Jeff -- he's made it fairly far in a hiring process with a legitimate company that is not a call center! It's typically competitive to land one of our positions, but I'm very happy to see him going through this process and (apparently) putting in a strong showing.

Thank you for the vote of confidence, Jesse!  Mom and I were talking this afternoon and if I were given a choice between Kansas and Oklahoma City, I would choose Kansas.

Just so you know ... if you do happen to make the cut and move here, I'm not going to take it easy on you. But I can guarantee you'll be better off out of Oklahoma and with a little solid mentorship.

I really appreciate that, Jesse.  I really do.  If I make the cut and move up there, I'm going to be the hardest worker and I'm going to learn from your mentorship.  I've got a phone interview Friday morning and a possible live interview next week.  I hope to be in Kansas as a resident by the first week of September.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on August 22, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
How are your Kenyan children doing lately?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 09:27:35 PM

They're doing great!  The Maisha coordinator was down there recently over the summer and said they have a relieved look on their face knowing that someone is praying for them, that someone back in America loves them and providing for their education.  Even though their caretaker is 8,500 miles away as the crow flies, they feel as if I'm right next to them and same on my end.  I feel that even though they are so far away that they are playing in my house.  I still look forward to being able to go next March or sometime next year.  If I'm living in Kansas, I can just fly out of the Kansas City Airport or the Wichita Airport instead of the Oklahoma City Airport.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 22, 2012, 09:39:06 PM
I see you're leaning towards supporting our President again. Terrific!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 22, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
I see you're leaning towards supporting our President again. Terrific!

Haha, yeah, although it won't matter whether I'm in Oklahoma or Kansas.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on August 22, 2012, 10:18:41 PM
I see you're leaning towards supporting our President again. Terrific!

Notice a pattern here? Same thing happens every election year.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 22, 2012, 11:18:05 PM
What has drawn you back to Obama, BushKE? Is it his smile? The way he makes your heart flutter when he speaks? Or the way he favors sane principles like gay marriage and allowing abortion?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 23, 2012, 07:50:30 AM
It's gotta be the abs


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 23, 2012, 08:20:52 AM
Bushie has a new found love of muslims, maybe? 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 23, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
When he looks at Obama, he sees the faces of his Kenyan children.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 23, 2012, 02:36:51 PM
When he looks at Obama, he sees the faces of his Kenyan children.

Aha!  I knew E would nail it.  :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 23, 2012, 05:44:55 PM
I'm going with Obama mainly due to the new platform the GOP has adopted.  Two things I disagree with on the platform.  Abortion is sometimes needed in cases where the mother's life is in danger, rape, and incest.  I also am all for Civil Unions and am not opposed to gay marriage.

I had the FAA interview this morning and they told me I should hear something by next week.  However, when I got home around noon, I already had an email saying thanks, but no thanks.  So, that leaves Kansas left on the table.  I can put all my eggs (for now) in the Kansas basket and won't have a tough decision to make, because the FAA job would have paid $18.41/hr.  I've got the last phone interview with Kansas tomorrow morning at 10:00.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 23, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
So you're going for the government job, right Bushie?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 23, 2012, 05:51:26 PM
I'm going with Obama mainly due to the new platform the GOP has adopted.  Two things I disagree with on the platform.  Abortion is sometimes needed in cases where the mother's life is in danger, rape, and incest.  I also am all for Civil Unions and am not opposed to gay marriage.

Bushie, if anything, you should go with Obama because Romney and his ilk want to economically exterminate you.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 23, 2012, 05:54:24 PM
So you're going for the government job, right Bushie?

Not anymore, because the government job didn't want me - with that thanks, but no thanks email just 3 hours after I got out of the interview.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 24, 2012, 07:45:03 PM
Well, folks, I had the phone interview with Kansas this morning.  I feel pretty confident about it.  It may be a little bit of time before I know anything, but I talked to the person that interviewed me on Monday and he says I have a better than average chance because I am the only one that he sent to the hiring manager who has the specific software experience.  The others have more of a hardware background and this is a software-based position.  Now, we just wait and see.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Thomas D on August 24, 2012, 07:46:57 PM
Good Luck. :D


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 24, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
Thanks, Thomas.  This weekend and much of next week while I watch the GOP Convention, I'm going to be making preparations to move up to Manhattan.  I doubt I will be up there by September 1 like I had thought, instead, it's looking more like September 8 or 15.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 25, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
Thanks, Thomas.  This weekend and much of next week while I watch the GOP Convention, I'm going to be making preparations to move up to Manhattan.  I doubt I will be up there by September 1 like I had thought, instead, it's looking more like September 8 or 15.

Although I don't know anything about their hiring process at the moment, take your planning one step at a time. Plan for the on-site interview and don't get too overly distracted by moving plans. You've set a goal of getting this job ... that's your "big picture," so to speak. But if you get too invested in planning to execute the final stage in the plan, you'll overlook steps in between.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 25, 2012, 12:36:49 PM
Thanks, Thomas.  This weekend and much of next week while I watch the GOP Convention, I'm going to be making preparations to move up to Manhattan.  I doubt I will be up there by September 1 like I had thought, instead, it's looking more like September 8 or 15.

Although I don't know anything about their hiring process at the moment, take your planning one step at a time. Plan for the on-site interview and don't get too overly distracted by moving plans. You've set a goal of getting this job ... that's your "big picture," so to speak. But if you get too invested in planning to execute the final stage in the plan, you'll overlook steps in between.

I wont get distracted.  I just want to be ready to go when he says go.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 25, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
I actually feel pretty good about this position in Kansas.  I really think I've got an excellent chance.  The old rule that "it's who you know" could very well come into play thanks to J-Mann.  Not to mention, I'm confident in my abilities and strengths.  I look forward to a live interview.  I should hear something either this coming week or the next week.  I will have my cell phone awake and ready for their call Monday Morning at 7:00 am.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 27, 2012, 09:23:18 AM
Just thinking that my possible trip to The Little Apple could be quite painful if Isaac decides to shut down the refineries in the Gulf.  Thankfully, I probably won't go up there until late this week or sometime next week, so it won't be quite as painful as if I were going the middle of this week.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 27, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
It's people who have that stupid irrational fear that this storm is going to shut everything down is the reason I don't have much gas in my car. Why, you ask? Because I'm not waiting an hour for gas.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 27, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
This isn't another Katrina. It will be bad and you should take shelter, but as far as I know it isn't a category 5 and it won't wreck havoc 500 miles inland. It's silly they even cancelled the RNC for a few high waves.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 27, 2012, 01:49:45 PM
I have just been notified there will be a Kansas update this afternoon.  Stay tuned. :)  I'm very optimistic and praying hard right now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 27, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
This isn't another Katrina. It will be bad and you should take shelter, but as far as I know it isn't a category 5 and it won't wreck havoc 500 miles inland. It's silly they even cancelled the RNC for a few high waves.

I disagree with that one - at the point they cancelled it, there was much less certainty in the track of the storm.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 27, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 27, 2012, 08:29:43 PM
This isn't another Katrina. It will be bad and you should take shelter, but as far as I know it isn't a category 5 and it won't wreck havoc 500 miles inland. It's silly they even cancelled the RNC for a few high waves.

I'm pretty sure Katrina was only a Category 3 when it actually made landfall.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on August 27, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

Are you going to tell us why the Manhattan "solution" went bust?  So many job offers made and then withdrawn. Odd that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 27, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

Are you going to tell us why the Manhattan "solution" went bust?  So many job offers made and then withdrawn. Odd that.

Unless I'm missing something, he never said there was an offer on the Manhattan job.  Just that he'd done an interview with them, and was awaiting their decision.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 27, 2012, 10:35:32 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

Are you going to tell us why the Manhattan "solution" went bust?  So many job offers made and then withdrawn. Odd that.

"Bust" is a poor description. Jeff was going through an interview gauntlet, and we have a number of steps in all of our hiring process. Nothing was ever a guarantee with my company and offers are never made until the hiring managers are positive that they want to move forward. I'll let him share details about his experience if he wishes, but I hope that speaking with me and my HR specialist were positive regardless of the outcome on the hiring front. If nothing else, Jeff got some decent coaching on his resume, interview skills and strengths that he may want to focus on in future employment.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 27, 2012, 11:49:05 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

So you lied again?  You said you were putting all of your eggs in one basket (being Kansas).  Come on, man...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 27, 2012, 11:52:08 PM
This isn't another Katrina. It will be bad and you should take shelter, but as far as I know it isn't a category 5 and it won't wreck havoc 500 miles inland. It's silly they even cancelled the RNC for a few high waves.

I'm pretty sure Katrina was only a Category 3 when it actually made landfall.

It was; however, it's possible that Category 4 winds impacted Louisiana right before it weakened to a Category 3.  Even if this hits as a Category 1 though, you're going to see a lot of flooding in the city.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Meeker on August 28, 2012, 12:41:41 AM
Since when does Bushie have any web development skills?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 28, 2012, 12:57:10 AM
He probably just found a job selling vacuums in Utah.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 28, 2012, 01:28:11 AM
Some number from Ogden, Utah has been calling me constantly for months. Are you sure it's a legit job?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 28, 2012, 08:48:46 AM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

So you lied again?  You said you were putting all of your eggs in one basket (being Kansas).  Come on, man...

I did not lie.  I was putting all my eggs in the Kansas basket, then when Kansas went down, I withdrew the eggs and placed them in the Utah basket.  I was all in for Kansas should they have accepted me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 28, 2012, 10:19:51 AM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

So you lied again?  You said you were putting all of your eggs in one basket (being Kansas).  Come on, man...

I did not lie.  I was putting all my eggs in the Kansas basket, then when Kansas went down, I withdrew the eggs and placed them in the Utah basket.  I was all in for Kansas should they have accepted me.

Fair enough, but since J-Mann, properly I might add, won't provide details, what happened and what did you learn?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 28, 2012, 10:22:06 AM

Your poor, poor eggs.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 28, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
I found out the number in Odgen that keeps calling me constantly was a call center advertising things. I really hope BushKE has not taken a job with them.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 28, 2012, 10:31:51 AM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

So you lied again?  You said you were putting all of your eggs in one basket (being Kansas).  Come on, man...

I did not lie.  I was putting all my eggs in the Kansas basket, then when Kansas went down, I withdrew the eggs and placed them in the Utah basket.  I was all in for Kansas should they have accepted me.

Fair enough, but since J-Mann, properly I might add, won't provide details, what happened and what did you learn?

I found out the number in Odgen that keeps calling me constantly was a call center advertising things. I really hope BushKE has not taken a job with them.

I am not going to disclose the details of the employment for two main reasons (1) the forum really does not need to know and (2) the forum is searchable and I don't want spying eyes from the company to see that their information and their employment of one individual is fully out in public.

I will suffice Duke's fear by saying that it is not a call center.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 28, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
Oh boy, this doesn't sound very good.

I'm actually kind of bummed about Kansas. I thought he might really have a shot at that one.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 28, 2012, 12:13:20 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

So you lied again?  You said you were putting all of your eggs in one basket (being Kansas).  Come on, man...

I did not lie.  I was putting all my eggs in the Kansas basket, then when Kansas went down, I withdrew the eggs and placed them in the Utah basket.  I was all in for Kansas should they have accepted me.

So you had never heard from the Utah company until after Kansas rejected you, and the first thing you heard from Utah was that you all of a sudden had a job without talking to them before this?  Because if not, not all of your eggs were in Kansas...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 28, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
There are more important questions that need to be asked. Exactly how many eggs do you have, and how large is this basket you're talking about? Also, where is this basket? Can you take pictures?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 28, 2012, 12:25:59 PM
Knowing BushOK, they're probably Cadbury eggs.

(Sorry, I had to...)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 28, 2012, 12:27:23 PM
Things have changed dramatically just over the last 5 hours. First of all, the opportunity in Kansas busted.  That wasn’t the end of it, though.  I got a call from a firm in, guess…, Utah, Ogden, Utah.  I’ve got a job up there as a junior web developer if I want it starting Monday, September 10, 2012.  I have talked it over with my parents, and I will be on my way to Utah on Monday, September 3, 2012.  I will be staying in an extended stay hotel for probably the first two months until I get a real good feel for how I will like the job.  This is my opportunity, and I’m taking it!!  This application process started earlier in August even while Xerox was playing its game with me, but I just kept it under my hat for a while as Kansas was my first choice.

So you lied again?  You said you were putting all of your eggs in one basket (being Kansas).  Come on, man...

I did not lie.  I was putting all my eggs in the Kansas basket, then when Kansas went down, I withdrew the eggs and placed them in the Utah basket.  I was all in for Kansas should they have accepted me.

So you had never heard from the Utah company until after Kansas rejected you, and the first thing you heard from Utah was that you all of a sudden had a job without talking to them before this?  Because if not, not all of your eggs were in Kansas...

Okay, so maybe I exaggerated the all of the eggs.  This job in Utah started developing even while Xerox was still possible earlier this month, but I had kept it under my hat so as to not jump the gun with it.  I had been accepted while Kansas and Oklahoma City were both in the cooker.  When I said all eggs in Kansas basket, meant I was going to go to Kansas without hesitation.  That was my main focus, but I had Utah in my hip pocket.  I can tell you this is a large, well-known, reputable company I'm going to work for.  I won't disclose the identity, but it is large, well-known, and reputable.

Stop trying to get me on small technicalities.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 28, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
When I get to Salt Lake City.  I am not going to hop into an apartment right away.  I've got a 4 week stay in an extended stay hotel  in Ogden so I can test out the job and gauge to see if I will like it or not.  After the 4 weeks (which will end October 2), if I like the job, I will extend the extended stay another 4 weeks while I look for an apartment and try to be moved in by October 30 when the next 4 weeks will be up.  If somehow the job doesn't work out, I can come back to Oklahoma on October 2 and look for a job here without having to sever an apartment lease.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 28, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
It's not a small technicality.  Putting all of your eggs in one basket, just to have that basket fall to the ground means you don't have any eggs left.  Putting most of your eggs in one basket means you still have eggs left.  It's not a technicality - it's a huge difference.  Time after time you've been dishonest with the forum, and your story never stays the same.

All of a sudden your sure-fire plan falls through and WHAMO! there's a sudden back-up plan.  But we can't know what the company is?  For someone who compulsively shares details of his life with the forum, that seems strange.  So why all of a sudden is there secrecy with this company and none of the previous ones?  Is this another Rainbow incident?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 28, 2012, 03:54:52 PM
It's not a small technicality.  Putting all of your eggs in one basket, just to have that basket fall to the ground means you don't have any eggs left.  Putting most of your eggs in one basket means you still have eggs left.  It's not a technicality - it's a huge difference.  Time after time you've been dishonest with the forum, and your story never stays the same.

All of a sudden your sure-fire plan falls through and WHAMO! there's a sudden back-up plan.  But we can't know what the company is?  For someone who compulsively shares details of his life with the forum, that seems strange.  So why all of a sudden is there secrecy with this company and none of the previous ones?  Is this another Rainbow incident?

Alright, fine, I'll disclose the name of the company - Aetna Insurance.  Jr. Web Developer for Aetna Insurance located in Layton, Utah which is 12 miles south of downtown Ogden.  This position has been developing since Xerox was still in play back in early August.  It has slowly materialized and I was actually accepted a week ago, but I just kept it under my hat because I really wanted to go to Kansas.  Since I am not going to Kansas, I am going to Utah, instead.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 28, 2012, 08:03:08 PM
I've now got a game plan for the next 5 days.  I've got a few places to call and places to go each of the next 3 business days.  I'm in the process of doing my laundry so I can start packing on Thursday.  I'm going to load the car on Friday and then leave Oklahoma at 4:00 am on Monday, September 3, 2012 - Labor Day.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 12:29:23 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 29, 2012, 12:30:34 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on August 29, 2012, 12:31:49 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A
The plot... thickens


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 29, 2012, 12:36:46 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A
The plot... thickens

When does it ever thin?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 12:43:26 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A

I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 12:53:28 AM
It's not a small technicality.  Putting all of your eggs in one basket, just to have that basket fall to the ground means you don't have any eggs left.  Putting most of your eggs in one basket means you still have eggs left.  It's not a technicality - it's a huge difference.  Time after time you've been dishonest with the forum, and your story never stays the same.

All of a sudden your sure-fire plan falls through and WHAMO! there's a sudden back-up plan.  But we can't know what the company is?  For someone who compulsively shares details of his life with the forum, that seems strange.  So why all of a sudden is there secrecy with this company and none of the previous ones?  Is this another Rainbow incident?

Alright, fine, I'll disclose the name of the company - Aetna Insurance.  Jr. Web Developer for Aetna Insurance located in Layton, Utah which is 12 miles south of downtown Ogden.  This position has been developing since Xerox was still in play back in early August.  It has slowly materialized and I was actually accepted a week ago, but I just kept it under my hat because I really wanted to go to Kansas.  Since I am not going to Kansas, I am going to Utah, instead.

Either you're lying to us or someone is lying to you.

Here's why!

  • The three Aetna Insurance offices in Utah are located in Salt Lake City, Sandy, and Taylorsville. None of these are very close to Ogden or Layton.
  • Looking at the Aetna website, jobs with the prefix "junior" seem to be exclusively for college interns.
  • There is no "junior" position that exists in their web team.
  • Aetna doesn't call the position "Web Developer", they call it "Web Engineer."
  • None of Aetna's three Utah offices are currently hiring Web Engineers, or any other jobs in the IT field for that matter, besides a few random non-web IT jobs in SLC.
  • Oh, actually, the entire Web Engineer team is based solely out of their national headquarters in Connecticut, so there's literally no reason for them to ever be offered in Utah or anywhere else.

You will be interviewing for a non-existent job in a non-existent office, and if the job were to exist it would effectively be a minimum wage internship, and instead of being at the non-existent office near Ogden it would actually be in Hartford, Connecticut, on the other side of the country.

edit- it appears i've been ninja'd by others doing their own research, but i think most of this is still valid.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 12:56:22 AM
It's not a small technicality.  Putting all of your eggs in one basket, just to have that basket fall to the ground means you don't have any eggs left.  Putting most of your eggs in one basket means you still have eggs left.  It's not a technicality - it's a huge difference.  Time after time you've been dishonest with the forum, and your story never stays the same.

All of a sudden your sure-fire plan falls through and WHAMO! there's a sudden back-up plan.  But we can't know what the company is?  For someone who compulsively shares details of his life with the forum, that seems strange.  So why all of a sudden is there secrecy with this company and none of the previous ones?  Is this another Rainbow incident?

Alright, fine, I'll disclose the name of the company - Aetna Insurance.  Jr. Web Developer for Aetna Insurance located in Layton, Utah which is 12 miles south of downtown Ogden.  This position has been developing since Xerox was still in play back in early August.  It has slowly materialized and I was actually accepted a week ago, but I just kept it under my hat because I really wanted to go to Kansas.  Since I am not going to Kansas, I am going to Utah, instead.

Either you're lying to us or someone is lying to you.

Here's why!

  • The three Aetna Insurance offices in Utah are located in Salt Lake City, Sandy, and Taylorsville. None of these are very close to Ogden or Layton.
  • Looking at the Aetna website, jobs with the prefix "junior" seem to be exclusively for college interns.
  • There is no "junior" position that exists in their web team.
  • Aetna doesn't call the position "Web Developer", they call it "Web Engineer."
  • None of Aetna's three Utah offices are currently hiring Web Engineers, or any other jobs in the IT field for that matter, besides a few random non-web IT jobs in SLC.
  • Oh, actually, the entire Web Engineer team is based solely out of their national headquarters in Connecticut, so there's literally no reason for them to ever be offered in Utah or anywhere else.

You will be interviewing for a non-existent job in a non-existent office, and if the job were to exist it would effectively be a minimum wage internship, and instead of being at the non-existent office near Ogden it would actually be in Hartford, Connecticut, on the other side of the country.

I know what I know and that's all I will say.  I will see when I get to Utah.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 01:05:52 AM
I'm going to speak no more of the job in Utah until I get there and get started.  I will however continue to speak on the preparations for moving up there.  So, I ask everyone to please give it a rest until I get up there and find out exactly what is going on.  I know what I know from the interview, and I will find out even more when I get up there and sign the paperwork on September 10.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 01:13:28 AM
When I get to Salt Lake City.  I am not going to hop into an apartment right away.  I've got a 4 week stay in an extended stay hotel  in Ogden so I can test out the job and gauge to see if I will like it or not.  After the 4 weeks (which will end October 2), if I like the job, I will extend the extended stay another 4 weeks while I look for an apartment and try to be moved in by October 30 when the next 4 weeks will be up.  If somehow the job doesn't work out, I can come back to Oklahoma on October 2 and look for a job here without having to sever an apartment lease.
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A

I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

1. If Aetna is apparently a sure thing, and it's in Salt Lake City, why the hell are you planning to be in an extended stay motel in Ogden? So you can work at the "possibility that you don't have to worry about"?
2. With all your typical anal-retentive planning around every miniscule detail, how do you somehow suddenly mix up something as important as where you'll be living and working?
3. How the hell could a job with a Fortune 100 company be a "sure thing" for someone with your resume, especially when it's for a position that doesn't exist?
4. I want to write more but Jesus Angry Tapdancing Christ it won't make a difference will it?

Just wanna go to Utah to be buddy buddy with Jamespol or just get out of your parents' house or whatever, and come up with some excuse about jobs so your parents will pay for you to travel and then you'll come up with another sob story about getting let off after two weeks so your parents will give you more money to come home? Hell, why else would you be jumping the gun to make travel plans before things are even slightly certain, and then planning to stay in an extended stay hotel "just in case"?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 29, 2012, 01:20:13 AM
It's not a small technicality.  Putting all of your eggs in one basket, just to have that basket fall to the ground means you don't have any eggs left.  Putting most of your eggs in one basket means you still have eggs left.  It's not a technicality - it's a huge difference.  Time after time you've been dishonest with the forum, and your story never stays the same.

All of a sudden your sure-fire plan falls through and WHAMO! there's a sudden back-up plan.  But we can't know what the company is?  For someone who compulsively shares details of his life with the forum, that seems strange.  So why all of a sudden is there secrecy with this company and none of the previous ones?  Is this another Rainbow incident?

Alright, fine, I'll disclose the name of the company - Aetna Insurance.  Jr. Web Developer for Aetna Insurance located in Layton, Utah which is 12 miles south of downtown Ogden.  This position has been developing since Xerox was still in play back in early August.  It has slowly materialized and I was actually accepted a week ago, but I just kept it under my hat because I really wanted to go to Kansas.  Since I am not going to Kansas, I am going to Utah, instead.

Either you're lying to us or someone is lying to you.

Here's why!

  • The three Aetna Insurance offices in Utah are located in Salt Lake City, Sandy, and Taylorsville. None of these are very close to Ogden or Layton.
  • Looking at the Aetna website, jobs with the prefix "junior" seem to be exclusively for college interns.
  • There is no "junior" position that exists in their web team.
  • Aetna doesn't call the position "Web Developer", they call it "Web Engineer."
  • None of Aetna's three Utah offices are currently hiring Web Engineers, or any other jobs in the IT field for that matter, besides a few random non-web IT jobs in SLC.
  • Oh, actually, the entire Web Engineer team is based solely out of their national headquarters in Connecticut, so there's literally no reason for them to ever be offered in Utah or anywhere else.

You will be interviewing for a non-existent job in a non-existent office, and if the job were to exist it would effectively be a minimum wage internship, and instead of being at the non-existent office near Ogden it would actually be in Hartford, Connecticut, on the other side of the country.

edit- it appears i've been ninja'd by others doing their own research, but i think most of this is still valid.

Ha, I thought you were going to bed. We discussed this in IRC which is why I brought it up. Regardless good work, your research here is far more thorough and does provide proof beyond a doubt this is not real and does also debunk his excuse for the office not being in Layton.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 01:24:09 AM
Ha, I thought you were going to bed. We discussed this in IRC which is why I brought it up. Regardless good work, your research here is far more thorough and does provide proof beyond a doubt this is not real and does also debunk his excuse for the office not being in Layton.

Was gonna make a quick post before sleeping, then got distracted by the research :P

(are you still in the chat? if so, can you invite me? i think the room is broken now. take this convo to the chat thread btw if you respond, so we don't taint the glorious update thread with off topic chatter)

But regardless, thanks!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Boris on August 29, 2012, 01:25:39 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A

I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

Option A on the map is West Jordan and appears to be mislabeled - it's a random house in a random subdivision. There's a behavioral health center in Sandy, but that's like 50 miles south of Ogden. Quite the commute if you ask me! Is there even an Aetna office in Salt Lake City? Google maps does not yield its location.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Boris on August 29, 2012, 01:27:06 AM
Ha, I thought you were going to bed. We discussed this in IRC which is why I brought it up. Regardless good work, your research here is far more thorough and does provide proof beyond a doubt this is not real and does also debunk his excuse for the office not being in Layton.

Was gonna make a quick post before sleeping, then got distracted by the research :P

(are you still in the chat? if so, can you invite me? i think the room is broken now. take this convo to the chat thread btw if you respond, so we don't taint the glorious update thread with off topic chatter)

But regardless, thanks!

Yeah i can't get on either...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 29, 2012, 01:36:41 AM
I'm out of chat now and now heading to bed anyway. See you guys tomorrow. I imagine there will be quite the drama here in the morning.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 01:40:34 AM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A

I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

Option A on the map is West Jordan and appears to be mislabeled - it's a random house in a random subdivision. There's a behavioral health center in Sandy, but that's like 50 miles south of Ogden. Quite the commute if you ask me! Is there even an Aetna office in Salt Lake City? Google maps does not yield its location.

I can't find the location, but per Aetna's own website a SLC location does indeed exist. It must be pretty minor, because they even use out-of-state addresses in CA and CT for their various filings with the Utah Department of Insurance.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 29, 2012, 01:43:33 AM
Brilliant sleuthing, folks.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 29, 2012, 06:54:14 AM
I'm going to speak no more of the job in Utah until I get there and get started.

Yes, this is the standard pattern.  People start poking holes in the logic of Bushie's narrative, and he says he's going to stop answering questions about the topic in question.  For example:

I'm not answering any more questions about Salt Lake City, so your suspicions will have to remain just that.  I'm not going to do anything to prove or dispel them.

Then the next step is that he says he's going to lock the thread for a while, if not forever.  E.g.:

link (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=109091.msg2843561#msg2843561)

Quote
This may sound like a cheap way out, but I'm going to save all of us a bunch of endless back-and-forth and lock this thread.  It's certain that you're not going to get through to me and it's certain I'm not going to get through to you.

Per advice from a certain poster in authority, I am locking this thread. I'm not getting through to you nor you to me.  I will continue posting sans update.

I am going to lock this thread for a while.  It's become boring even for me, so it's going under lock and key.

Then he'll wait until people forget or lose interest in the particular plot hole in question, and then reopen the thread.  It's the exact same script every single time.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 29, 2012, 07:03:25 AM
Oh, and I'm also reminded of this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=131728.0

Another common Bushie tactic (though he doesn't use it as much anymore) is to ask "Why do you guys care so much about the details of my life that you spend all this time trying to prove me wrong?", to which the obvious rejoinder is given by Kal here:

Why are the people believe in anything related to BushOK?

More importantly, why do they care?

Most importantly, why are you telling all this BS to us?

....to which there seems to be no good answer.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 29, 2012, 08:06:07 AM
I heart my fraternity brother Bacon King.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 09:37:12 AM
I probably won't lock the thread this time, as I've tried that, I can't help myself.  I'm just going to let you guys mock all you want to mock and I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it.  I know what I know and we'll find out if what I know is true or not in 12 days.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 29, 2012, 10:05:14 AM
I know what I know and we'll find out if what I know is true or not in 12 days.

How will "we find out" when all we have to go on is what you post?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 29, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
I love the reoccurring themes throughout this drama. BushKE has taken yet another scam job or is lying to us altogether and yet continues to use the same tactics he has used in the past to divert attention from the mistakes he has once again made knowing that the forum had predicted the downfall before it even happened.

For the sake of his parents, I truly hope he isn't just using this as an excuse to visit jamespol for a few weeks on their bill. But it's pretty clear this job he claims to have does not exist, which means he either doesn't have the job, took a job with some other call center or vacuum sales company, or is just making up an excuse to visit his buddy. I don't see any other outcome.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Holmes on August 29, 2012, 10:21:06 AM
Ban and close this thread please.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 29, 2012, 10:55:10 AM
I'm going to speak no more of the job in Utah until I get there and get started.

Yes, this is the standard pattern.  People start poking holes in the logic of Bushie's narrative, and he says he's going to stop answering questions about the topic in question.  For example:

I'm not answering any more questions about Salt Lake City, so your suspicions will have to remain just that.  I'm not going to do anything to prove or dispel them.

Then the next step is that he says he's going to lock the thread for a while, if not forever.  E.g.:

link (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=109091.msg2843561#msg2843561)

Quote
This may sound like a cheap way out, but I'm going to save all of us a bunch of endless back-and-forth and lock this thread.  It's certain that you're not going to get through to me and it's certain I'm not going to get through to you.

Per advice from a certain poster in authority, I am locking this thread. I'm not getting through to you nor you to me.  I will continue posting sans update.

I am going to lock this thread for a while.  It's become boring even for me, so it's going under lock and key.

Then he'll wait until people forget or lose interest in the particular plot hole in question, and then reopen the thread.  It's the exact same script every single time.

That's not the first time everyone told Bushie how wrong he is and he just goes into extreme cognitive dissonance either, see when he was selling vacuums for example. Actually basically every single time this has happened the rest of the forum has been right and he has been wrong.

I love the reoccurring themes throughout this drama. BushKE has taken yet another scam job or is lying to us altogether and yet continues to use the same tactics he has used in the past to divert attention from the mistakes he has once again made knowing that the forum had predicted the downfall before it even happened.

For the sake of his parents, I truly hope he isn't just using this as an excuse to visit jamespol for a few weeks on their bill. But it's pretty clear this job he claims to have does not exist, which means he either doesn't have the job, took a job with some other call center or vacuum sales company, or is just making up an excuse to visit his buddy. I don't see any other outcome.

Oh that explains why he's so big on Utah. Well it wouldn't be the first time he screwed over his family, see signing them up for Ameriplan.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: afleitch on August 29, 2012, 10:58:29 AM

Or rename it to 'As Bushie's Lies Unravel'


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on August 29, 2012, 11:01:05 AM

Or rename it to 'As Bushie's Lies Unravel'

Whether it is as an exercise in fine fiction writing or internet buff's sleuthing, the thread has a lot of interest and value.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 29, 2012, 11:08:58 AM
I just have to say Bushie is the worst cover story fabricator ever, such as the excuse he made after being shown there is no way the job could be near Layton. After being proven that the job can't be in Utah at all he basically just dodges the whole thing.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: fezzyfestoon on August 29, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
Well, it's clear he is quite partial to lying to himself to avoid reality, so I wouldn't take all this so personally if I were you guys. In fact most of what he does seems to have roots in avoidance.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
Apparently other people already posted the stuff I researched last night. :(  I was hoping to break the story.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 12:17:50 PM
I probably won't lock the thread this time, as I've tried that, I can't help myself.  I'm just going to let you guys mock all you want to mock and I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it.  I know what I know and we'll find out if what I know is true or not in 12 days.

People aren't mocking you.  Rather we are pointing out that yet again, a non-truth was told.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 29, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
Hmm.. I really hope this turns into something real. This certainly can't be a joke, because although entertaining, Bushie is certainly no Ruth Buzzi.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 12:39:03 PM
Is this a job with an actual Aetna office in Layton?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Aetna&ll=41.019283,-111.934204&spn=1.104496,2.705383&sll=41.060222,-111.971053&sspn=0.137979,0.338173&near=Layton,+UT&geocode=CZmH28LT8_SNFX6HcgIdE3VT-Sn5MAfZ1v1ShzEYnBsAfrCxjA&gl=us&hq=Aetna&t=m&z=9&iwloc=A

I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

How is it a "sure job"?  Are all off your eggs in this basket again now?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 29, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
Hmm.. I really hope this turns into something real. This certainly can't be a joke, because although entertaining, Bushie is certainly no Ruth Buzzi.

I will assure you, it is nowhere near as real as the love we have for one another.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 29, 2012, 12:51:42 PM
I don't know guys, just a search for Aetna Salt Lake City reveals some jobs with company in the Salt Lake City area and plenty of them involve web development.  Maybe Bushie isn't lying this time.

Either way, I won't be surprised.  Hopefully the writers have a better twist coming.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 12:55:53 PM
I don't know guys, just a search for Aetna Salt Lake City reveals some jobs with company in the Salt Lake City area and plenty of them involve web development.  Maybe Bushie isn't lying this time.

Either way, I won't be surprised.  Hopefully the writers have a better twist coming.

For that to be true, you're believing that SLC job is real, and he intended to tell us about that.  Instead, he told us about the job, but accidentally described it as in the city of anothe job he so far hasn't mentioned once (coming from someone who shares almost everything he does with the forum), but that doesn't matter because the SLC job is a guarantee, so we don't have to worry about the othe job.

Does that sound reasonable?  No.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 29, 2012, 01:00:54 PM
I don't know guys, just a search for Aetna Salt Lake City reveals some jobs with company in the Salt Lake City area and plenty of them involve web development.  Maybe Bushie isn't lying this time.

Either way, I won't be surprised.  Hopefully the writers have a better twist coming.

For that to be true, you're believing that SLC job is real, and he intended to tell us about that.  Instead, he told us about the job, but accidentally described it as in the city of anothe job he so far hasn't mentioned once (coming from someone who shares almost everything he does with the forum), but that doesn't matter because the SLC job is a guarantee, so we don't have to worry about the othe job.

Does that sound reasonable?  No.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Bushie considers finding the willpower to fill out an application as being on the verge of getting hired.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 29, 2012, 01:03:19 PM
Maybe J-Mann knows if this is real or not?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on August 29, 2012, 01:19:24 PM
Maybe J-Mann knows if this is real or not?

Unfortunately, I don't -- all I have is Jeff's word to go on. My company had one specific position that he applied for, but we didn't talk about any other possibilities.

Jeff -- I would hope that, if nothing else, the little bit of counseling and interview experience that you got with us proved that legitimate organizations have a detailed vetting process that (even if you don't get the job) can be of great benefit to both the company and the candidate.

I find it very odd that you're saying that you'll have to wait until you get to Utah to see whether or not this opportunity is what you believe it to be. You know I'm supportive ... but I'd be awfully disappointed in you if this supposed new job wasn't as thoroughly vetted by you as it should have been. You know better.

EDIT: I'd also be disappointed if you are not telling the truth. Extremely disappointed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 29, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
The whole going there and staying in an econolodge or a few weeks to see if you like it sounds so fishy to me. If you're not all in, don't go for it. This whole I might stay or I might not sounds so odd, especially if it is a legitimate job.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 29, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
Wow, this season has plot holes big enough to drive a Mack Truck through!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Guys, I know what job I have and I'm going up there on Monday to get into the hotel.  The reason for the hotel is to make 100% sure this job is going to last.  I know it will last, but just by some chance it doesn't, I'm not tied to a 6 month lease.  I'm taking things cautiously because I remember what happened to me in Kansas City 5 years ago and Dallas 4 1/2 years ago.  I dont want a repeat.  Anyway, I will get up there Tuesday evening about 3:00-3:30 and sign the paperwork and get the badge on Monday, and officially start Wednesday, September 12, 2012.  I will be fine.  Inks, not all of my eggs are in this basket.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 29, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
Hmm.. I really hope this turns into something real. This certainly can't be a joke, because although entertaining, Bushie is certainly no Ruth Buzzi.

I will assure you, it is nowhere near as real as the love we have for one another.

<3


Guys, I know what job I have and I'm going up there on Monday to get into the hotel.  The reason for the hotel is to make 100% sure this job is going to last.  I know it will last, but just by some chance it doesn't, I'm not tied to a 6 month lease.  I'm taking things cautiously because I remember what happened to me in Kansas City 5 years ago and Dallas 4 1/2 years ago.  I dont want a repeat.  Anyway, I will get up there Tuesday evening about 3:00-3:30 and sign the paperwork and get the badge on Monday, and officially start Wednesday, September 12, 2012.  I will be fine.  Inks, not all of my eggs are in this basket.

Again.. can you give us any specifics of this basket, as well as exactly how many eggs we are talking about. The people have the right to know.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
You KNOW this job is going to last?  You told us that about Kenya...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
>describes job as a "sure thing"
>cautious because he's not "100% sure this job is going to last"

>he's going to be working for "a large, well-known, reputable company"
>this mystery company apparently already has given him a date for getting his badge
>he's only talked with this company on the phone once
>he didn't mention it to the forum until after Kansas plans fell through

>The mystery job is totally a Jr. Web Developer at Aetna
>Except it's not for like a dozen reasons

>The job is just south of Ogden
>oh wait, it's in SLC
>yeah, totally in SLC, it's Location A on that map
>Location A is not in SLC
>Zoom in and see it's a mislabeled residential neighborhood

>There's apparently a second job offer near Ogden that's a possibility
>Didn't mention this until he had to cover a lie
>Says he's not going to worry about it because other job is a "sure thing"
>Hasn't mentioned it since

>Even though "Aetna job" isn't "100%", is already planning on coming home if it falls through
>Totally ignoring the "other offer" he fabricated to cover his lie
>Totally ignoring the possibility of finding any other jobs there
>Already has a specific date for when to come home if "just by some chance" things don't work

I think that covers all the plot holes! Anyone see anything I missed? :)

PS:

Quote from: a stupid meme

>2012
>Knowing Bushie's history
>Believing any of this
>ISHYGDDT

()



Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 29, 2012, 02:26:06 PM
I'm rooting for BushKE, but I know this is a lie. I guess we can just sit back and wait until he returns to Oklahoma after being let go for some random reason.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 29, 2012, 02:36:46 PM
I just hope he's following J-Mann's advice.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
I'm rooting for BushKE, but I know this is a lie. I guess we can just sit back and wait until he returns to Oklahoma after being let go for some random reason.

I don't think he'll make it that far, because I don't think the job exists.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 02:46:41 PM
I'm rooting for BushKE, but I know this is a lie. I guess we can just sit back and wait until he returns to Oklahoma after being let go for some random reason.

It is no lie.  The reason why I'm saying we'll wait until I get there is I've realized that no matter what I say, the forum won't believe me and I'll be wasting my time trying to answer their questions.  That's fine if the forum won't believe me.  I know what I've got in Utah and I will not be derailed.  I'm really not looking for the forum's approval, I'm just having fun.  There is no need to lock the thread right now (at least from my view point).  I know I opened Pandora's Box when I reopened the thread this past Spring and I told Inks I could handle anything that came my way.  The forum hasn't derailed my thinking at all, I've just been having fun.  Sometimes, talking to a brick wall is fun (you guys can understand that!).  I enjoy this forum and even when you guys bicker and poke holes in every thing I bring before you, I'm just having fun.  The only thing I ask is that none of this ever makes its way to facebook.  What is said on the forum, stays on the forum.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 29, 2012, 02:48:09 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 03:11:24 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

Not quite yet!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 29, 2012, 03:23:11 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

No... someone who quit a job to go chase a potential job just to have his dreams shot down should not be on welfare.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 29, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
This whole thing isn't funny. It's not even pathetic. This is just sad.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Holmes on August 29, 2012, 03:31:26 PM
Can we get another Simfan post in here?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 29, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
See, this is almost like that one job he had, where he thought it was for Playground equipment.. he showed us the link to the place and everything...and it turned out to be a different company, selling vacuums.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 29, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Having just read the last four pages, this is profoundly shocking and disturbing.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 03:58:39 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

No... someone who quit a job to go chase a potential job just to have his dreams shot down should not be on welfare.

That, I agree with.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 29, 2012, 03:59:28 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

No... someone who quit a job to go chase a potential job just to have his dreams shot down should not be on welfare.

Obviously his (and most Americans) lives would be much better if he were guaranteed housing and a generous dole by the state. Some people are just not cut out for or do not want to have employment, and for them the government should step in and support them.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 04:02:45 PM
Can we get another Simfan post in here?

If you dont like the content, you are under no obligation to read it. Same goes for any poster on any thread.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 04:03:37 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

No... someone who quit a job to go chase a potential job just to have his dreams shot down should not be on welfare.

Obviously his (and most Americans) lives would be much better if he were guaranteed housing and a generous dole by the state. Some people are just not cut out for or do not want to have employment, and for them the government should step in and support them.

Why should the government help people who are not willing to help themselves?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 04:46:45 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

No... someone who quit a job to go chase a potential job just to have his dreams shot down should not be on welfare.

Obviously his (and most Americans) lives would be much better if he were guaranteed housing and a generous dole by the state. Some people are just not cut out for or do not want to have employment, and for them the government should step in and support them.

Why should the government help people who are not willing to help themselves?

Why should your parents?
[/possibly excessive low-blow]


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 29, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
I'm rooting for BushKE, but I know this is a lie. I guess we can just sit back and wait until he returns to Oklahoma after being let go for some random reason.

It is no lie.  The reason why I'm saying we'll wait until I get there is I've realized that no matter what I say, the forum won't believe me and I'll be wasting my time trying to answer their questions.  That's fine if the forum won't believe me.  I know what I've got in Utah and I will not be derailed.  I'm really not looking for the forum's approval, I'm just having fun.  There is no need to lock the thread right now (at least from my view point).  I know I opened Pandora's Box when I reopened the thread this past Spring and I told Inks I could handle anything that came my way.  The forum hasn't derailed my thinking at all, I've just been having fun.  Sometimes, talking to a brick wall is fun (you guys can understand that!).  I enjoy this forum and even when you guys bicker and poke holes in every thing I bring before you, I'm just having fun.  The only thing I ask is that none of this ever makes its way to facebook.  What is said on the forum, stays on the forum.

Oh this response is full of all of BushKE's defense mechanisms! It's sending tingles up my spine!

But really, I do wish you luck and if it is a real job, I hope it works out. I can't imagine it being fun to always be in limbo, and finding stability in life is one of the more fulfilling things I could think of at your age.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 29, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
My going theory is that Bushie never quit Oklahoma Natural Gas, but got injured on the job and went on workman's comp, and decided to start spinning these elaborate tales to serve as entertainment during his downtime for the last two years.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 29, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
My going theory is that Bushie never quit Oklahoma Natural Gas, but got injured on the job and went on workman's comp, and decided to start spinning these elaborate tales to serve as entertainment during his downtime for the last two years.


I would hope that that is the case.  Either that or my take that he is Keyser Soze, mastermind extraordinaire.  We all think he is the hapless Verbal Kint but it is he that is laughing at us poor fools.

Really though if this is some real life- functional people do not act like this. Hopping from one job to another or some hair brained flight of fancy, fantasy world is not helping his life. Rather than going off on the next escapade, I would hope that he reflects on things and perhaps talks things through with someone competent.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 29, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
The man needs to get on welfare. Period.

No... someone who quit a job to go chase a potential job just to have his dreams shot down should not be on welfare.

Obviously his (and most Americans) lives would be much better if he were guaranteed housing and a generous dole by the state. Some people are just not cut out for or do not want to have employment, and for them the government should step in and support them.

Why should the government help people who are not willing to help themselves?

Because it should be the government's responsibility to do so.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Holmes on August 29, 2012, 07:56:24 PM
Can we get another Simfan post in here?

If you dont like the content, you are under no obligation to read it. Same goes for any poster on any thread.

It's like a beautiful train wreck. Horrible, sad, and there's nothing you can do about it, but you just can't look away.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 29, 2012, 08:20:34 PM
BushOK really should watch Precious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqB2fKbflWw


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 29, 2012, 08:31:25 PM
My going theory is that Bushie never quit Oklahoma Natural Gas, but got injured on the job and went on workman's comp, and decided to start spinning these elaborate tales to serve as entertainment during his downtime for the last two years.


I would hope that that is the case.  Either that or my take that he is Keyser Soze, mastermind extraordinaire.  We all think he is the hapless Verbal Kint but it is he that is laughing at us poor fools.

If he's fooling us, he's fooling everyone who knows him in real life as well. He posts the same stuff here as he does on his Facebook page (his announcements here are sometimes even word-for-word reposts), and plenty of family and friends always send him their best wished for his new job opportunities and offer their prayers when things don't work out.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 29, 2012, 08:33:57 PM
I cannot believe this isn't all made up.  It's too shocking, and disturbing.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 08:45:44 PM
My going theory is that Bushie never quit Oklahoma Natural Gas, but got injured on the job and went on workman's comp, and decided to start spinning these elaborate tales to serve as entertainment during his downtime for the last two years.


I would hope that that is the case.  Either that or my take that he is Keyser Soze, mastermind extraordinaire.  We all think he is the hapless Verbal Kint but it is he that is laughing at us poor fools.

If he's fooling us, he's fooling everyone who knows him in real life as well. He posts the same stuff here as he does on his Facebook page (his announcements here are sometimes even word-for-word reposts), and plenty of family and friends always send him their best wished for his new job opportunities and offer their prayers when things don't work out.

I am not fooling anyone.  A lot of times, I will just copy and paste.  I normally type my facebook status updates onto Microsoft Word and then copy and paste to facebook and frequently to the forum (modified just a bit on occasion to suit the audience).  I've had too many occasions where my wrist accidentally clicks the back button on the touchpad of my laptop and I lose everything or facebook will have to reload and I lose everything I have typed which is very frustrating after I've typed a novel, which I frequently do.

Anyway, I've said all that to say that, everything I say on facebook is me, the real me, not some fabricated me.  I did quit Oklahoma Natural Gas, which despite my two years in the wilderness that ensued, I view as a blessing because it got me out of a bankruptcy waiting to happen with my sure-fire wedding to that wonderful lady, Susan.  She would have bankrupt me within the first two months.  It took me quitting that job, which was a sinking ship anyway, that got me out of that conundrum.  I wish I could have had her without her financial pitfall.  Oh well, that's in the past now.

Yes, it is the real me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 29, 2012, 09:55:01 PM
Jeff, I have a serious question for you. I was reading this, and something hit me and I really feel like this has to be asked.

Now, as we already know, I'm not a very religious person anymore. So please, don't take this as a jab at your faith or anything. Now, we've talked about a leap of faith when you left ONG, and about how the Lord is going to help take care of you during all the rough times you've encountered since that time.

You claim that God has spoken to you, and about your calling to Kenya. Sometimes we all know, messages can be subtle, and where you least expect them. You've left a job we all told you not to leave, and had a series of job escapades one after another.. and a lot of older and wise members of the forum tell you it isn't a good idea, but you choose to ignore it.

After all this rambling, I've got to just ask.. do you think it might, in some way be possible, that  someone higher is speaking to you, through the forum. A lot of people like to raz you, but admit it... you know that some of us have only the best intentions, and try to point you in the right direction. Heck, two of us have already tried to get you legitimate positions. Maybe someone thought the best way to communicate with you, was through somewhere you'd least expect ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 29, 2012, 10:12:11 PM
Jeff, I have a serious question for you. I was reading this, and something hit me and I really feel like this has to be asked.

Now, as we already know, I'm not a very religious person anymore. So please, don't take this as a jab at your faith or anything. Now, we've talked about a leap of faith when you left ONG, and about how the Lord is going to help take care of you during all the rough times you've encountered since that time.

You claim that God has spoken to you, and about your calling to Kenya. Sometimes we all know, messages can be subtle, and where you least expect them. You've left a job we all told you not to leave, and had a series of job escapades one after another.. and a lot of older and wise members of the forum tell you it isn't a good idea, but you choose to ignore it.

After all this rambling, I've got to just ask.. do you think it might, in some way be possible, that  someone higher is speaking to you, through the forum. A lot of people like to raz you, but admit it... you know that some of us have only the best intentions, and try to point you in the right direction. Heck, two of us have already tried to get you legitimate positions. Maybe someone thought the best way to communicate with you, was through somewhere you'd least expect ;)

I've definitely considered the possibility, Andrew.  God has spoken to me through the forum on occasion.  I may say I'm ignoring the advice and it may seem like I'm ignoring the advice, but I always take every advice I get from the forum, from facebook, and from my own family and weigh it and take the best action for me and the best action that will further my ministry.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 29, 2012, 10:30:05 PM
I don't know guys, just a search for Aetna Salt Lake City reveals some jobs with company in the Salt Lake City area and plenty of them involve web development.  Maybe Bushie isn't lying this time.

Either way, I won't be surprised.  Hopefully the writers have a better twist coming.

Huh? I'm not seeing any, just some non-IT stuff Bushie is obviously not qualified for and IT jobs that are way beyond web design and he isn't qualified for either. And as BK noted Aetna does all their web design at the HQ in Connecticut.

The only insurance company jobs I can see Bushie being qualified for are customer service (in which case he's not qualified, because we all know how well he does at call centers) or some low level bookkeeping/data entry position. And if this is the latter, why doesn't he just say so instead of coming up with all these elaborate stories and excuses?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on August 29, 2012, 11:53:32 PM
Bushie, what's the pay?  (Don't be coy with this, you've told us that type of info and more before.)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on August 30, 2012, 01:12:48 AM
What Can I Do with an E-Commerce Degree? I can be a/an Hospital/HMO.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 30, 2012, 01:29:15 AM
Bushie, what's the pay?  (Don't be coy with this, you've told us that type of info and more before.)

Hmmm he answered this earlier but seems to have deleted it...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 30, 2012, 01:39:25 AM
Bushie, what's the pay?  (Don't be coy with this, you've told us that type of info and more before.)

Hmmm he answered this earlier but seems to have deleted it...

Sorry.  That might have been me.  My laptop froze while I was reading the thread earlier, and I clicked a couple times on the page as well as scrolled up and down - so it might've happened once it unfroze.  I didn't notice anything different, but it's possible it got deleted then - I'm honestly not sure.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 30, 2012, 02:07:43 AM
Bushie, what's the pay?  (Don't be coy with this, you've told us that type of info and more before.)

Hmmm he answered this earlier but seems to have deleted it...

Sorry.  That might have been me.  My laptop froze while I was reading the thread earlier, and I clicked a couple times on the page as well as scrolled up and down - so it might've happened once it unfroze.  I didn't notice anything different, but it's possible it got deleted then - I'm honestly not sure.

Hey, that's happened to me once or twice.

IIRC he said 36k


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 09:21:34 AM
Bushie, what's the pay?  (Don't be coy with this, you've told us that type of info and more before.)

Hmmm he answered this earlier but seems to have deleted it...

Sorry.  That might have been me.  My laptop froze while I was reading the thread earlier, and I clicked a couple times on the page as well as scrolled up and down - so it might've happened once it unfroze.  I didn't notice anything different, but it's possible it got deleted then - I'm honestly not sure.

I was under the assumption it was you or Mikado deleting it for privacy reasons, that's why I didn't put it back up.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 30, 2012, 02:06:43 PM
Nope... just a 6-year-old Dell laptop that thinks it's a rebel.  Like I said earlier, as long as you're not posting private information about other people, you pretty much have free reign with this thread now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on August 30, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
Inks, don't sweat it.  I've gotten rid of whole threads accidentially.  Buttons are close together and all.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on August 30, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
I would hope that that is the case.  Either that or my take that he is Keyser Soze, mastermind extraordinaire.  We all think he is the hapless Verbal Kint but it is he that is laughing at us poor fools.

Then shouldn't we, the viewers, be aware of this already? Even if everything we see seems to point the other way; for this entire thing would all be about the experience of reading an internet forum.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on August 30, 2012, 02:35:07 PM
I would hope that that is the case.  Either that or my take that he is Keyser Soze, mastermind extraordinaire.  We all think he is the hapless Verbal Kint but it is he that is laughing at us poor fools.

Then shouldn't we, the viewers, be aware of this already? Even if everything we see seems to point the other way; for this entire thing would all be about the experience of reading an internet forum.

That is actually the good part of this thread for me.  I can't take any joy in the rather mundane misfortunes of this fellow. He needs help and guidance that this forum cannot provide- absolutely nothing wrong there either... What I do find interesting is how the thread kinda holds up the proverbial mirror.  The reactions, advice etc are telling and quite indicative of where the viewer is at the moment. For instance, here I am giving Bushie advice on weight like I'm some sort of fitness guru or something. While I have managed to just lose a tremendous amount of weight, I'm probably replying to threads mostly to reinforce myself, and with some well-intentioned advice to a stranger (Bushie) sprinkled in.  Maybe that makes some sense, maybe I'm just full of hot air...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 03:13:51 PM
Nope... just a 6-year-old Dell laptop that thinks it's a rebel.  Like I said earlier, as long as you're not posting private information about other people, you pretty much have free reign with this thread now.

Okay, I just didn't want to usurp your authority.

To answer Joe's question, I will be making $17.30/hr ($36,000) per year according to the offer letter.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 30, 2012, 03:32:30 PM
Are you selling your OK house?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 03:38:31 PM

Not for another 6 months at least.  Just in case Aetna falls through for some reason and I have to come back home, I'll have a place to live.  I should be well established by the Spring, so there won't be any need in keeping it beyond that.  It's not that I'm doubting anything, it's the vivid memory of the Kansas City and Dallas debacle in 2007 and 2008.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 30, 2012, 04:17:11 PM
You should definitely list it. Like I said, you'll never break away unless you're all in. Otherwise you will keep looking back at that safety net and know that if you screw up, you can go to a house that your parents pay for and have no worries.

In a way, we can never truly succeed until our backs are against the wall and we have to fight to survive. Only then will you find success. Until then you will keep spinning your wheels and slacking off because you know your parents will foot the bill for you when you fail. You aren't hungry. Success doesn't mean much to you because you don't have to succee to live.

But that's just my opinion. This whole keeping the house in case you fail is not a good thing because ultimately you will fail. You're planning on it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 05:06:35 PM
That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 30, 2012, 05:29:04 PM
That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.

From an economics standpoint, you might not sell it in 6 months anyway given the market, and if the job does work out in Utah, you don't want your parents paying for that house for upwards of a year.

My grandfather owns 7 houses right now, and many of them he wants to sell but can't because of the market. He pays about $80,000 a year on upkeep/taxes and the like. I don't know what your parents will pay, but an idle house has lots of problems, so please consider at least listing the house and see what happens. Don't ask your parents to pay for it while you are gone.

If you truly want to leave Oklahoma and feel it is the best route, go for it. Something WILL work out eventually. What you need, and really I need, is stability in life. You're much older so the need is much higher, but you get my point.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 05:41:29 PM
That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.

From an economics standpoint, you might not sell it in 6 months anyway given the market, and if the job does work out in Utah, you don't want your parents paying for that house for upwards of a year.

My grandfather owns 7 houses right now, and many of them he wants to sell but can't because of the market. He pays about $80,000 a year on upkeep/taxes and the like. I don't know what your parents will pay, but an idle house has lots of problems, so please consider at least listing the house and see what happens. Don't ask your parents to pay for it while you are gone.

If you truly want to leave Oklahoma and feel it is the best route, go for it. Something WILL work out eventually. What you need, and really I need, is stability in life. You're much older so the need is much higher, but you get my point.

If it were up to me, I'd put it on the market now.  It's mainly for my parents sake.  My mother is overly worried about me (acting like a mother) and want me to have some safety net.  They will pay the mortgage, but they want me to have a safety net.  I could care less, honestly.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 30, 2012, 05:42:05 PM
Bushie, I just want to know WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Not only you're wasting your life and every possibilities, but also you're dedicating hours to write a damn story, in f**king Microsoft word, to tell us about your repeated failures.

Don't you have ANYTHING BETTER to do with your life? Can't you LEARN from your own story? You're doing this all over again.

What do you want from us? Sympathy? Support? Well, I have no damn sympathy for you until you start to THINK.

Grow up.

Moderators, please lock this. Bushie should get his life in order, not distracted by posting there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 30, 2012, 05:46:22 PM
That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.

From an economics standpoint, you might not sell it in 6 months anyway given the market, and if the job does work out in Utah, you don't want your parents paying for that house for upwards of a year.

My grandfather owns 7 houses right now, and many of them he wants to sell but can't because of the market. He pays about $80,000 a year on upkeep/taxes and the like. I don't know what your parents will pay, but an idle house has lots of problems, so please consider at least listing the house and see what happens. Don't ask your parents to pay for it while you are gone.

If you truly want to leave Oklahoma and feel it is the best route, go for it. Something WILL work out eventually. What you need, and really I need, is stability in life. You're much older so the need is much higher, but you get my point.

If it were up to me, I'd put it on the market now.  It's mainly for my parents sake.  My mother is overly worried about me (acting like a mother) and want me to have some safety net.  They will pay the mortgage, but they want me to have a safety net.  I could care less, honestly.

You have to learn that living for your parents happiness means you will always be unhappy. They have to let go sometime. You're almost 31, right? I mean, good grief. My mother is awful about letting go. I am 23 and she thinks I am still 16, but thats her, I learned to ignore it and move on with my life as an adult. If it is your house, tell them you want to list it to see what becomes of it, got to Utah like you have nothing left in OK except for your parents and build your life there.

Come on, man. You're 31. You need a stable job, a lady who might marry you, and a good outlook on life. You need to independent from your parents, otherwise you'll just be serving them until they die, and when they do, you will be all alone, and I don't want that and I am sure no one else on this forum does either.

I might be hard on you, but I do truly care about your success, because you are a good man deep down and deserve a break. I hope some of the advice I have given is sound and you take it to heard. I will keep rooting and following your story, and I do hope it has a happy ending. Life is never easy regardless, but we make of it what we can.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.

From an economics standpoint, you might not sell it in 6 months anyway given the market, and if the job does work out in Utah, you don't want your parents paying for that house for upwards of a year.

My grandfather owns 7 houses right now, and many of them he wants to sell but can't because of the market. He pays about $80,000 a year on upkeep/taxes and the like. I don't know what your parents will pay, but an idle house has lots of problems, so please consider at least listing the house and see what happens. Don't ask your parents to pay for it while you are gone.

If you truly want to leave Oklahoma and feel it is the best route, go for it. Something WILL work out eventually. What you need, and really I need, is stability in life. You're much older so the need is much higher, but you get my point.

If it were up to me, I'd put it on the market now.  It's mainly for my parents sake.  My mother is overly worried about me (acting like a mother) and want me to have some safety net.  They will pay the mortgage, but they want me to have a safety net.  I could care less, honestly.

You have to learn that living for your parents happiness means you will always be unhappy. They have to let go sometime. You're almost 31, right? I mean, good grief. My mother is awful about letting go. I am 23 and she thinks I am still 16, but thats her, I learned to ignore it and move on with my life as an adult. If it is your house, tell them you want to list it to see what becomes of it, got to Utah like you have nothing left in OK except for your parents and build your life there.

Come on, man. You're 31. You need a stable job, a lady who might marry you, and a good outlook on life. You need to independent from your parents, otherwise you'll just be serving them until they die, and when they do, you will be all alone, and I don't want that and I am sure no one else on this forum does either.

I might be hard on you, but I do truly care about your success, because you are a good man deep down and deserve a break. I hope some of the advice I have given is sound and you take it to heard. I will keep rooting and following your story, and I do hope it has a happy ending. Life is never easy regardless, but we make of it what we can.

You have been hard on me?  Since when?  I do agree with you that I need to be independent.  I will be 31 in 8 months.  I'm definitely taking everything into consideration.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 30, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
Maybe I am a softy, I don't know. :P

But it does take guts to break away from overbearing parents. I do identify with you because my parents are the same way. I am the oldest child and the thought of me growing up and moving away is tough on them. So I know how they can guilt you into things. But be strong, do what you know you should for YOUR life and not theirs. They will be fine. All parents are in the end.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on August 30, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
Duke, he already knows the Utah job is bogus. There are darker forces at work here.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 07:04:07 PM
Duke, he already knows the Utah job is bogus. There are darker forces at work here.

I've got proof that it's real sitting in my email - a real offer letter.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 30, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
Why is your mother paying your mortgage?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 30, 2012, 08:08:00 PM
Duke, he already knows the Utah job is bogus. There are darker forces at work here.

I've got proof that it's real sitting in my email - a real offer letter.

Can we see a screenshot of this e-mail?  Feel free to redact anything confidential.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 08:17:11 PM
 

August 13, 2012

Jeffrey Brown
Xxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxx, xx, xxxxx

Dear Jeffrey:
Congratulations and welcome to the Aetna Team! Aetna, Inc is pleased to inform you that you have been offered a position of Web Developer. Your tentative start date will be Monday, September 10, 2012, located in our Sandy, Utah location.
Your starting compensation for this non-exempt position will be an hourly rate of $17.30/hr, ($36,000 annually) which will be paid to you bi-weekly. You will be eligible for overtime compensation as well as a shift differential when working the night shift. Your specific responsibilities and duties, which
may be changed by the company, will be provided to you by your manager. You will be eligible
for the Aetna benefits program based on your state of residence.
You will be eligible for an annual Incentive Bonus Percentage (IBP) on terms that may vary,
depending upon the company’s financial results and attainment of strategic corporate initiatives.
The terms of the bonus plan are subject to annual re-evaluation and modification by Aetna’s Board
of Directors.
You will become eligible for the employee benefits offered by Aetna, Inc after you meet the
applicable participation and enrollment conditions. These benefits include paid time off, medical,
vision, and dental insurance, group life and short term and long-term disability insurance, flexible
spending accounts, tuition reimbursement, and a 401(k) plan with company matching
contributions. You will become eligible to participate in most benefit programs, including
medical, vision, dental, life and disability insurance, on your start date. During the integration
process it will take approximately 30 days after your start date, for you to receive an email
from the Aetna, Inc benefits team regarding benefits enrollment. You will have 30 days from the
time of the email to enroll in benefits. You will be eligible for leave (vacation and personal
business allowance) hours after 30 days of continuous service. Your leave bank will be prorated
based on your hire date.
Details regarding enrollment will be reviewed during your orientation.

                  Regards,            
                     Talent Acquisition


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on August 30, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
What a tweest!

Seems legit, especially given the speed you posted that, but still doesn't explain why you'll be staying so damn far from the office. Or why you originally said it was in two other places when the email clearly states the city the office is in.

While Aetna does their own web stuff thru their Connecticut office, perhaps this is for something like making fancy websites for Aetna policy doctors in Utah.

Did you ever get back to them or have you just been planning to show up and hope the job is still waiting for you somehow? Have you actually spoken with anyone on the phone?   


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
What a tweest!

Seems legit, especially given the speed you posted that, but still doesn't explain why you'll be staying so damn far from the office. Or why you originally said it was in two other places when the email clearly states the city the office is in.

While Aetna does their own web stuff thru their Connecticut office, perhaps this is for something like making fancy websites for Aetna policy doctors in Utah.

Did you ever get back to them or have you just been planning to show up and hope the job is still waiting for you somehow? Have you actually spoken with anyone on the phone?   

I chose the extended stay motel before I realized where it was at, oh well - it's called the Frontrunner light rail transportation.

I have officially accepted the job (did that this past Tuesday) and, yes, I have spoken with the hiring manager over the phone.  I'm going up there knowing what I've got.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 30, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
It is approaching 11:00 pm in Oklahoma, 10:00 pm in Utah.  I’m going to pack the second suitcase here in a little bit before the night ends.  Tomorrow, I don’t have a whole lot to do in the morning except for a couple phone calls and a quick trip to the post office.  At 1:30, I will head to my mother’s and take her to the Newalla Tag Agency and officially put her car in my name and talk over the weekend strategy.  I’ll come home after dinner and load the car tomorrow evening with things I want to take.  Saturday, my house Internet will be turned off in the morning after I take my modem to Cox.  My Aunt Susan will come get my cat and take him to her house around 2:00.  I will then head to my cousin Sherry’s for a breakfast dinner at 5:00 before heading to Mom and Dad’s to spend the night.  Sunday, I will be going to my final worship service at Woods Baptist Church, the church I have been at since I was 4 years old in September 1986 – 26 years ago.  Then, after Worship, one final family dinner with my Grandmother and Parents’ before relaxing in the afternoon and getting to bed by 7:30-8:00 pm.  I’ll wake up at 2:45 am Monday and be on the road by 4:15 am.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on August 31, 2012, 12:18:16 AM
I would hope that that is the case.  Either that or my take that he is Keyser Soze, mastermind extraordinaire.  We all think he is the hapless Verbal Kint but it is he that is laughing at us poor fools.

Then shouldn't we, the viewers, be aware of this already? Even if everything we see seems to point the other way; for this entire thing would all be about the experience of reading an internet forum.

That is actually the good part of this thread for me.  I can't take any joy in the rather mundane misfortunes of this fellow. He needs help and guidance that this forum cannot provide- absolutely nothing wrong there either... What I do find interesting is how the thread kinda holds up the proverbial mirror.  The reactions, advice etc are telling and quite indicative of where the viewer is at the moment. For instance, here I am giving Bushie advice on weight like I'm some sort of fitness guru or something. While I have managed to just lose a tremendous amount of weight, I'm probably replying to threads mostly to reinforce myself, and with some well-intentioned advice to a stranger (Bushie) sprinkled in.  Maybe that makes some sense, maybe I'm just full of hot air...


It's true. Bushie's inability to cook even the simplest foods has really inspired my own cookery.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on August 31, 2012, 08:00:57 AM
L-O-L


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 31, 2012, 11:43:52 AM
64 hours, kids - 2 2/3 days until I am out of Oklahoma!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 31, 2012, 11:59:18 AM
When are you meeting up with jamespol and texaswhackjob?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 31, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
When are you meeting up with jamespol and texaswhackjob?

jamespol probably Thursday or Friday for lunch.  Texasindy, don't know, yet.

A side note:

Due to moving and the lack of Internet, I will be posting very little from about 12:30 tomorrow morning until after 5:00 pm MDT Tuesday.  I will pop in a little Saturday night and a little Monday night, but probably won't post at all on Sunday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on August 31, 2012, 06:53:49 PM
Well, I’ve got the car mostly loaded.  I’ve got a couple more boxes to fit in somewhere and then my atlas and electronics.  I am under 24 hours left in my house.  I’ll be over at Mom and Dad’s from 6:30 pm tomorrow until I leave at 4:00 am Monday.  57 hours at 7:00 pm!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 01, 2012, 12:03:53 AM
Happy September to All!!  Since today is now Saturday, I now leave the DAY AFTER TOMORROW!!

Just a fair warning, my posting will be less for the next 96 hours.  I will still post, just not as much.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 01, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
My cat is gone...  :(   It was hard letting him go.  I will be out of the house in 45 minutes and will be leaving Oklahoma in just a day and a half.  After I get settled in Utah and get an apartment, which should be early to mid November, I will try to get a pet-friendly apartment and come back around Christmas and get him.  The move may be hard on him, but he needs his daddy and his daddy needs him!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on September 01, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
God speed, ObamaleanUT!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 01, 2012, 03:33:16 PM
Are you telling us you put Utah before your cat?

WTF?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 01, 2012, 03:40:27 PM
Are you telling us you put Utah before your cat?

WTF?

No, I'm just trying to create a better life for the two of us.  He is still my cat, he's just staying with my aunt until I can come back and get him.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 01, 2012, 07:30:20 PM
I had a great dinner with my cousins, pastor, and their 9 kids. (my pastor is my cousin's husband).  They have 4 kids + 2 foster kids + 3 nephews.  They are ALL spending the night witn them tonight!  I am now at my parents for the next two nights.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 01, 2012, 09:24:18 PM
30 hours until departure - 1 1/4 days!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 01, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
29 hours til departure, 65 hours til arrival in Ogden!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 12:03:46 AM
My final full day in Oklahoma has begun!  This means I officially leave TOMORROW!!!!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 04:02:03 PM
I am exactly a half of a day from beginning my journey to the Wasatch Mountains!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on September 02, 2012, 04:08:05 PM
It's been 18 hours since you told us how many hours you have left.  What's the current count?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 02, 2012, 04:11:26 PM
How exciting. I raise a glass to you for new beginnings!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 04:42:10 PM
It's been 18 hours since you told us how many hours you have left.  What's the current count?

11 hours


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Thomas D on September 02, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
I wish you safe travels.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
Thank you, Thomas!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on September 02, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
Best of luck in Utah.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 06:32:22 PM

Thank you, Snow!

I am just under 9 hours 30 minutes away!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 06:56:36 PM
As of 8:00 pm CDT - 8 hours til departure, 20 hours until arrival in Colorado, 36 hours til departure from Colorado, and 44 hours til arrival in Utah!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 02, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
This is likely my last post before I leave.  I will keep facebook updated as I go on through the journey.  The next time I post on Atlas, I will be in Fort Collins, Colorado.  Please pray for a safe journey and I will talk to you all in Colorado!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 02, 2012, 10:55:45 PM
Good luck on the drive, Jeff. I remember my move to both PA and TX fondly. They were both great adventures.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 03, 2012, 02:22:22 AM
So you're living in Layton now? This is crazy - I literally have a brother who lives in Layton. I'll be sure to warn them of your arrival. ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 03, 2012, 03:08:19 AM
Thanks, Andrew!

Tmth, I will be living in Ogden, actually, at least for the first two months, probably until after the election.

I am awake for my drive away from Oklahoma!  I will be on the road in just under one hour at 4:00 am CDT/3:00 am MDT.

See you guys later this evening!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on September 03, 2012, 03:12:42 AM
Safe travels!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 03, 2012, 07:11:32 AM
So you're living in Layton now? This is crazy - I literally have a brother who lives in Layton. I'll be sure to warn them of your arrival. ;)

One more fat guy bevy-ing up to the food-bar at the Ryan's steak-house more or less isn't going to make any difference.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 03, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
I have arrived in Fort Collins, Colorado after 12 hours!  Nice trip, indeed.  I will wake up at 5:30 MDT and will depart for Utah by 7:00!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 03, 2012, 07:20:27 PM
I am going to add 4 big firsts to my life tomorrow.  First off, I have never before been west of I-25.  I will do just that tomorrow morning.  Secondly, I'm going to add 3 new states to my have been in list.  Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.  Idaho is only 57 miles north of Ogden, so I'm going to drive up and touch the southeastern corner of Idaho on I-15, by going up and back down.  It should only add an additional hour and 45 minutes to my trip.  So, I am going to leave earlier than I had planned, around 5:00 MDT.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 03, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
Just tell us when you meet up with jamespol and save the rest.....k? Thx.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on September 03, 2012, 08:00:06 PM
Tell jamespol his favorite dumbfock says hi.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on September 03, 2012, 08:42:11 PM
I am going to add 4 big firsts to my life tomorrow.  First off, I have never before been west of I-25.  I will do just that tomorrow morning.  Secondly, I'm going to add 3 new states to my have been in list.  Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.  Idaho is only 57 miles north of Ogden, so I'm going to drive up and touch the southeastern corner of Idaho on I-15, by going up and back down.  It should only add an additional hour and 45 minutes to my trip.  So, I am going to leave earlier than I had planned, around 5:00 MDT.

You're truly a bizarre individual.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on September 03, 2012, 10:18:21 PM
I am going to add 4 big firsts to my life tomorrow.  First off, I have never before been west of I-25.  I will do just that tomorrow morning.  Secondly, I'm going to add 3 new states to my have been in list.  Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.  Idaho is only 57 miles north of Ogden, so I'm going to drive up and touch the southeastern corner of Idaho on I-15, by going up and back down.  It should only add an additional hour and 45 minutes to my trip.  So, I am going to leave earlier than I had planned, around 5:00 MDT.

You're truly a bizarre individual.

Hey you never know when he'll make it all the way to near Idaho again,  oh wait he plans on living right there.....

Anyway, best of luck and safe travels.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on September 03, 2012, 10:56:47 PM
I wish I'd have asked about your itinerary so I'd have known you were going through Salina, KS. I'm only about an hour from Salina and would have met you there to wish you luck. If you're ever driving back the same way, you'll have to let me know.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on September 04, 2012, 01:02:28 AM
I am going to add 4 big firsts to my life tomorrow.  First off, I have never before been west of I-25.  I will do just that tomorrow morning.  Secondly, I'm going to add 3 new states to my have been in list.  Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.  Idaho is only 57 miles north of Ogden, so I'm going to drive up and touch the southeastern corner of Idaho on I-15, by going up and back down.  It should only add an additional hour and 45 minutes to my trip.  So, I am going to leave earlier than I had planned, around 5:00 MDT.

You're truly a bizarre individual.

It's kind of a ridiculous waste of gas.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 04, 2012, 01:22:00 AM
On the other hand, that part of the world is very pretty. I certainly enjoyed my time there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 04, 2012, 05:19:10 AM
I am going to add 4 big firsts to my life tomorrow.  First off, I have never before been west of I-25.  I will do just that tomorrow morning.  Secondly, I'm going to add 3 new states to my have been in list.  Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.  Idaho is only 57 miles north of Ogden, so I'm going to drive up and touch the southeastern corner of Idaho on I-15, by going up and back down.  It should only add an additional hour and 45 minutes to my trip.  So, I am going to leave earlier than I had planned, around 5:00 MDT.

You're truly a bizarre individual.

I take that as a compliment :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 04, 2012, 05:21:26 AM
it is 430 a.m. Mountain Daylight Time, and I am awake and will be ready to leave by 5.  with my trip to Idaho, I should be in Ogden by 2:45.  I will post again when I get to Utah and settled in for the evening.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 04, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
I am going to add 4 big firsts to my life tomorrow.  First off, I have never before been west of I-25.  I will do just that tomorrow morning.  Secondly, I'm going to add 3 new states to my have been in list.  Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho.  Idaho is only 57 miles north of Ogden, so I'm going to drive up and touch the southeastern corner of Idaho on I-15, by going up and back down.  It should only add an additional hour and 45 minutes to my trip.  So, I am going to leave earlier than I had planned, around 5:00 MDT.

You're truly a bizarre individual.

It's kind of a ridiculous waste of gas.

Not if he has a goal of getting to all of the states or something like that.  That's something a fair amount of people do.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 04, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
^ Still, I wouldn't add over an hour and a half to my drive, to just go through part of Idaho. If I lived 50 miles from it, I would just wait and on a day off, go visit the state.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 04, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
He's arrived in Utah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 04, 2012, 04:47:42 PM
Yes, indeed!  I have arrived in Ogden, Utah and I did not go to Idaho this afternoon.  I was too pooped after 20 hours driving over two days.  I'm piece mealing my luggage and other personal belongings in.  I'll save Idaho for another day.  When I do, I may get into Montana, as well, to kill two birds with one stone.  Another day, I will get into Nevada for my first ever visit to the Pacific Time Zone!  California is too far to visit on a "joy" ride and so is Oregon.

While I was on the road in Southern Wyoming, my boss called me and wants to meet up for lunch tomorrow at 1:00 pm in Salt Lake City!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 04, 2012, 05:39:33 PM
If you're going to go to Montana, make it a trip to Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons. Grand Teton National Park in particular is one of my favorite places in the world, and the drive from Utah to Yellowstone takes you through eastern Idaho, which is beautiful.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 04, 2012, 06:16:02 PM
I will definitely be going to Yellowstone!  I've got a lot to sight see!

I have a gorgeous view outside my window.  I am on the 4th floor of my hotel facing east which gives me a very picturesque view of the High Uinta Mountains which are part of the Wasatch Mountain Range!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 04, 2012, 07:12:32 PM
Have you set up a meeting with jamespol yet?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 04, 2012, 07:16:53 PM
Have you set up a meeting with jamespol yet?

Yes, we are meeting for lunch in Ogden on Friday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: J-Mann on September 04, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
Out of curiosity, how are you managing the hotel bill? I can't imagine that it's cheap, even for a long-term stay. I'd think a month-to-month apartment lease would be significantly cheaper.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 04, 2012, 10:34:19 PM
Have you set up a meeting with jamespol yet?

Yes, we are meeting for lunch in Ogden on Friday.

Tell him that we miss him and we love him and he hope he is happy and safe.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 04, 2012, 10:46:30 PM
I respectfully decline to answer your question, Jesse, for privacy reason.  In case you haven't noticed, I'm trying to start holding personal information back.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 05, 2012, 12:39:37 AM
Feel free to post pictures from your hotel room... I love seeing the mountains in that area.  It's such a pretty area of the U.S.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on September 05, 2012, 01:26:17 AM
Have you set up a meeting with jamespol yet?

Yes, we are meeting for lunch in Ogden on Friday.

We need a full report on this.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 05, 2012, 05:50:29 AM
Out of curiosity, how are you managing the hotel bill? I can't imagine that it's cheap, even for a long-term stay. I'd think a month-to-month apartment lease would be significantly cheaper.

I imagine it's the normal answer?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 07:38:08 AM
Feel free to post pictures from your hotel room... I love seeing the mountains in that area.  It's such a pretty area of the U.S.

I will be posting a picture sometime later on this evening during the Cowboys game.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on September 05, 2012, 08:13:02 AM
While I was on the road in Southern Wyoming, my boss called me and wants to meet up for lunch tomorrow at 1:00 pm in Salt Lake City!

By "my boss called me," is this a way to refer to God speaking to you in a way that someone might "accidentally" misinterpret as referring to the private job which is putatively the cause for this trip?

Or am I being too cynical?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 08:32:02 AM
While I was on the road in Southern Wyoming, my boss called me and wants to meet up for lunch tomorrow at 1:00 pm in Salt Lake City!

By "my boss called me," is this a way to refer to God speaking to you in a way that someone might "accidentally" misinterpret as referring to the private job which is putatively the cause for this trip?

Or am I being too cynical?

No, it's just the boss wanting to meet me before I start on Monday for the sole purpose of putting a face with a name for both of us.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 05, 2012, 08:35:22 AM

Yes, and I didn't know you had it in you :D   Well, actually I did but it's nice you let some of it out once in a while ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 05, 2012, 08:35:57 AM
Out of curiosity, how are you managing the hotel bill? I can't imagine that it's cheap, even for a long-term stay. I'd think a month-to-month apartment lease would be significantly cheaper.

I imagine it's the normal answer?

That would be my guess.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 05, 2012, 08:53:55 AM
I respectfully decline to answer your question, Jesse, for privacy reason.  In case you haven't noticed, I'm trying to start holding personal information back.

AKA, his parents are paying for it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 11:32:16 AM
The lunch with my boss is at 1:00 pm in Salt Lake, which is 37 miles from my hotel.  I want to be there by 12:30 so I can be waiting on him rather than him having to wait on me.  Since it is so far, in the lunch hour traffic, I am going to leave here between 11:15-11:30 to make sure I get down there no later than 12:30.  I should be through with lunch by 1:45 and be headed back to Ogden.  I will need to make a quick Walmart run on my way home so I don't have to keep eating out and blowing money and gaining weight.  I should be to Walmart by 2:30, which would put me at 3:00-3:15 getting out of there, so I should be back to the hotel and ready to relax for the evening by 4:00.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 05, 2012, 11:36:52 AM
I don't think I've ever seen traffic in Utah.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 12:09:15 PM
I don't think I've ever seen traffic in Utah.

Well, its definitely not traffic like you saw in San Francisco or what you're likely seeing now in Maryland and its not even traffic like I saw in Oklahoma City (since OKC is twice as big as SLC), but it does demand respect, nonetheless.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 05, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
...I will need to make a quick Walmart run on my way home so I don't have to keep eating out and blowing money and gaining weight.

What can you get at Walmart that won't make you fat?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 05, 2012, 03:09:33 PM
How did lunch go with the new boss?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 05, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
...I will need to make a quick Walmart run on my way home so I don't have to keep eating out and blowing money and gaining weight.

What can you get at Walmart that won't make you fat?

Apparently nothing

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(thanks to waltermitty for the pic)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 03:52:50 PM
Lunch went really well this afternoon.  It was very nice to meet my new manager and he seemed pleased to meet me.  This lunch will make an easier transition when I start on Monday.

I've got two more business days to get the preliminary things done.

I haven't gone to Walmart, yet, and I will probably wait until tomorrow.  I've got to go back into Salt Lake tomorrow morning and then I'll have the rest of the day free.  I will likely go to Walmart, get a haircut, find a bank, find a church I can go to, and a few other things.

I know my body doesn't need this, but I may order pizza for dinner tonight while I watch the game.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on September 05, 2012, 04:11:26 PM
All the Wal-Mart snobbery has gotten really stale. While the experience of being in Wal-Mart is not a pleasant one, it's a great money saving tool. I get just about all my non-perishables there. For example, a box of rice krispies there is the same product as at Kroger, which is in a far more convenient location, and at Wal-Mart it is usually about a dollar cheaper. I try very hard to ensure that my income is greater than my expenses, as I am a firm believer in saving for a rainy day. Wal-Mart helps to make that possible.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 05, 2012, 04:26:13 PM
I actually love Wal-Mart. It's 3 miles closer than a regular grocery store, they tend to be cheaper, and they have a much wider selection. It's so convient for me to go to Wal-Mart versus finding an HEB or something like that here in Houston.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
I decided to make a mini Walmart run just a little bit ago.  I didn't get much, but I got the basics, enough for breakfast, lunch, and dinner for a few days.  Not much more than that.  This will help me save money by not having to go out for meals as much.  I found a Walmart closer than the one I found yesterday.  The one yesterday was 7 miles, this one was 2 miles and just down the same road from me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 07:40:13 PM
I got some major clarification today at lunch as to where Layton fit into all this.  I will be starting the position at a remote location in Layton, but then move into a permanent location in Sandy by December 1.  The offer letter said Sandy because that's where the position will end up and they want me to plan my living arrangements around Sandy or Salt Lake, instead of Layton or Ogden.  So, as a result, I may be staying in this hotel until possibly middle November so I can be closer to work as much as possible.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 05, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
2 1/2 months in a hotel is f[inks]ing crazy......crazy!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 05, 2012, 08:10:58 PM
I want to stay close to work, so I'll stay in the hotel that's close until after Election Day and then I'll move to Salt Lake/Sandy area into an apartment so I can be close when the move happens on December 1.  By doing that, I'll only have two weeks or so of a long drive to and from work and part of that taken up by Thanksgiving.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 06, 2012, 01:02:27 AM
Feel free to post pictures from your hotel room... I love seeing the mountains in that area.  It's such a pretty area of the U.S.

I will be posting a picture sometime later on this evening during the Cowboys game.

A picture of the game?  That's less picturesque than I was hoping for.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 06, 2012, 01:04:26 AM
I got some major clarification today at lunch as to where Layton fit into all this.  I will be starting the position at a remote location in Layton, but then move into a permanent location in Sandy by December 1.  The offer letter said Sandy because that's where the position will end up and they want me to plan my living arrangements around Sandy or Salt Lake, instead of Layton or Ogden.  So, as a result, I may be staying in this hotel until possibly middle November so I can be closer to work as much as possible.

So there were 2 job offers for Layton?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 06, 2012, 07:20:57 AM
Disaster is coming....patience, dear viewers, patience.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 06, 2012, 08:29:16 AM
I got some major clarification today at lunch as to where Layton fit into all this.  I will be starting the position at a remote location in Layton, but then move into a permanent location in Sandy by December 1.  The offer letter said Sandy because that's where the position will end up and they want me to plan my living arrangements around Sandy or Salt Lake, instead of Layton or Ogden.  So, as a result, I may be staying in this hotel until possibly middle November so I can be closer to work as much as possible.

So there were 2 job offers for Layton?

I've only had 1 job offer that was located in Sandy, but will be starting off remotely in Layton.  That's where Layton fits in to this whole equation.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on September 06, 2012, 08:29:16 AM
Disaster is coming....patience, dear viewers, patience.

Exactly what I was thinking, George.

I'm sure his parents are going to be thrilled about paying for this hotel room till god knows when...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 06, 2012, 08:39:04 AM
Disaster is coming....patience, dear viewers, patience.

Exactly what I was thinking, George.

I'm sure his parents are going to be thrilled about paying for this hotel room till god knows when...

It's got to be $2K for 2 and half months.....just for the room.....yowza.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 06, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 06, 2012, 12:07:25 PM
How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.

Maybe they're financing things the way the US government does?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 06, 2012, 12:16:21 PM
How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.

Maybe they're financing things the way the US government does?

Stealing from the poors to give to the riches?  ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 06, 2012, 12:20:04 PM
I got some major clarification today at lunch as to where Layton fit into all this.  I will be starting the position at a remote location in Layton, but then move into a permanent location in Sandy by December 1.  The offer letter said Sandy because that's where the position will end up and they want me to plan my living arrangements around Sandy or Salt Lake, instead of Layton or Ogden.  So, as a result, I may be staying in this hotel until possibly middle November so I can be closer to work as much as possible.

So there were 2 job offers for Layton?

I've only had 1 job offer that was located in Sandy, but will be starting off remotely in Layton.  That's where Layton fits in to this whole equation.

When the forum pointed out there was no Aetna office in Layton, you said there was another job offer there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 06, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.

Maybe they're financing things the way the US government does?

Maybe. I've always wondered how they manage to pay for all of his expenses while he has been out of work, like the house and the car, etc.. Maybe they are just driving into deep debt. He could rent an apartment month by month for much cheaper than staying in a hotel. I think the whole hotel thing is silly anyway. He needs to work on establishing himself there, not being a visitor until he think he will get fired.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 06, 2012, 01:06:08 PM
I'd figure there would at least have to be a room he could rent, or something to that effect.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on September 06, 2012, 01:38:26 PM
How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.

Maybe they're financing things the way the US government does?

Maybe. I've always wondered how they manage to pay for all of his expenses while he has been out of work, like the house and the car, etc.. Maybe they are just driving into deep debt. He could rent an apartment month by month for much cheaper than staying in a hotel. I think the whole hotel thing is silly anyway. He needs to work on establishing himself there, not being a visitor until he think he will get fired.
In the Middle School years of Saved by the Bell, the kids went to school in Indianapolis, IN and Zach once made a fleeting reference to a sister. In the high school years Zach, Lisa and Screech were magically transported to California, with the same principal no less, and Zach is an only child. Sometimes you just have to suspend disbelief and enjoy a show.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 06, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
Good Thursday Afternoon!  I have had a great day! I took my drug test in Salt Lake earlier this morning and have just been running a few errands since.  I will go in and sign new hire paperwork on Monday, and then will officially start Wednesday.  My hours will be 9:00-5:30 Monday-Friday, again, starting Wednesday, September 12, 2012.  I’m going to pretty much relax the remainder of the evening as I have used too much gas today.  Going to Salt Lake is 75 miles round trip.  I just filled up Tuesday after I got here, now I’m already down to a half tank with 2 trips to Salt Lake and a trip to North Ogden yesterday.  I shouldn’t have to make too many more trips to Salt Lake for a while, and I should be able to stay in Ogden or in Layton for work.  Occasionally, I will need to go down to Salt Lake, but hopefully not too often.  Now, when the job transfers to Sandy, I will get an apartment in Salt Lake, Sandy, or Midvale so I can be closer to work.  For now, though, it is prudent for me to stay in this extended stay until November so I can be closer to work and then move just before the job moves on December 1.  This will mean I only have to drive a long distance to work for 2-3 weeks in late November with Thanksgiving taking some time out of it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 06, 2012, 11:33:07 PM
I am eating lunch with jamespol tomorrow at 11:30 am.  He's coming up to Ogden and we'll spend probably an hour together.  I can't spend too long, because I have other errands to run and I need to find the church I plan to attend on Sunday.  I am Southern Baptist by denomination and, of course, Utah is majority Mormon.  I do not see Southern Baptist Churches on every corner in Utah that I do in Oklahoma.  I have found one, though, in Salt Lake that I'm going to try to find tomorrow afternoon.  I want to go to church in Salt Lake because I will eventually be living and working in Salt Lake, so I need to start focusing my long term plans in Salt Lake as opposed to Ogden.  Sunday School is at 9:45 and Morning Worship is at 11:00.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 07, 2012, 02:27:16 AM
So, what about the other Layton job offer?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 07, 2012, 08:38:56 AM
I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

Inks, I declined the offer because after further investigation it was an old Oklahoma City nemesis - Kirby.  I ran as far and as fast as I could...  I am NOT falling back into that trap again!!  Thankfully, with the guarantee with Aetna, so Kirby wasn't even a temptation this time!  I laughed all the way back to Ogden (15 miles).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 07, 2012, 09:15:25 AM
Perhaps you should try and focus on working in Ogden and making a good impression, and not put too much focus on Salt Lake.

That's what I did. I got the job in PA, and worked hard, proved myself, and after 9 months got the offer to come play with the big boys down here in Houston.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 07, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
I just had dinner and am visiting with one of the forum's all time greatest trolls - jamespol.  A very nice fellow indeed.  He says to tell everyone hi.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 07, 2012, 08:20:43 PM
I'm enjoying a nice football game between the Utah Utes and the Utah State Aggies.  13-0 Aggies almost halftime.  I'm just going to relax the rest of the evening, do laundry after the game, and then just watch football tomorrow and Sunday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 08, 2012, 09:13:40 AM
I've got 14 straight hours of college football today - a quadruple header from 10:00 am until midnight.  Then, tomorrow, I've got 10 1/2 straight hours of football.  I'm going to live it up, football style this weekend!

The Utah vs. Utah State game from last night was an excellent matchup.  The Aggies won 27-20 in Overtime.  Special teams were a problem for both sides the entire evening.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 08, 2012, 05:14:53 PM
I'm watching a great day of college football.  Tomorrow is, of course, NFL Football.  Monday, I go in to work and sign my new hire paperwork and then will have the rest of the day and Tuesday off before I actually start on Wednesday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on September 08, 2012, 06:47:48 PM
This is officially the new PA-13


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 08, 2012, 07:41:53 PM

Yes, sir!!  Welcome back!  Haven't seen you in a while!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 09, 2012, 12:35:50 AM
I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

Inks, I declined the offer because after further investigation it was an old Oklahoma City nemesis - Kirby.  I ran as far and as fast as I could...  I am NOT falling back into that trap again!!  Thankfully, with the guarantee with Aetna, so Kirby wasn't even a temptation this time!  I laughed all the way back to Ogden (15 miles).

So at what point did you start applying for jobs out in Layton, Utah?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 09, 2012, 08:47:34 AM
I stand corrected, it is Salt Lake City, actually Option A on the map.  I don't know why I said Layton, I must have been thinking of another possibility, not Aetna.  Aetna is indeed Option A on the map and another possibility I have is in Layton.  Since Aetna is a sure job, I don't have to worry about the possibility.

Inks, I declined the offer because after further investigation it was an old Oklahoma City nemesis - Kirby.  I ran as far and as fast as I could...  I am NOT falling back into that trap again!!  Thankfully, with the guarantee with Aetna, so Kirby wasn't even a temptation this time!  I laughed all the way back to Ogden (15 miles).

So at what point did you start applying for jobs out in Layton, Utah?

This was during and even before Xerox was still on the table.  In fact, as soon as the pay started turning sour in July at Xerox, I started looking in the Salt Lake Valley.  The reason why Salt Lake Valley, not anywhere else was because I have a friend here and it's far enough from home that I can't run home every weekend, but is a fairly short plane ride away from Oklahoma City.  I looked all over the Valley from Ogden to Layton to (mostly) Salt Lake City.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 09, 2012, 11:23:39 AM
Changing the subject just a bit, but I have 3 weeks left in my challenge issued by Mikado.  I have just 3 pounds to lose from reaching the goal in that challenge.  Despite all the moving, I'm still losing weight!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on September 09, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
I stand corrected. Perhaps you are bathed in prayer. Jmf has been praying for you regardless of the fact he's banned. Godspeed Bushie, Godspeed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 09, 2012, 08:18:30 PM
I stand corrected. Perhaps you are bathed in prayer. Jmf has been praying for you regardless of the fact he's banned. Godspeed Bushie, Godspeed.

Thanks, Simfan!

I go in tomorrow to sign my new hire paperwork and get official reporting instructions from 9:00-11:00 am.  I will have the rest of the day tomorrow and all day Tuesday free before I start work 9:00-5:30 on Wednesday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on September 09, 2012, 08:28:13 PM
Have you considered pursuing education as a career? Your spirit and your organization in the reporting makes me think you ought to...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 09, 2012, 08:55:51 PM
Have you considered pursuing education as a career? Your spirit and your organization in the reporting makes me think you ought to...

I have not considered education as a career.  That is an interesting idea.  I do believe I would be good at it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 09, 2012, 11:17:51 PM
Have you considered pursuing education as a career? Your spirit and your organization in the reporting makes me think you ought to...

I have not considered education as a career.  That is an interesting idea.  I do believe I would be good at it.

Yes, if there's one thing you excel at, it's learning things!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on September 10, 2012, 01:21:30 AM
Read through each of your threads again, focusing only on the posts in which people make fun of you.  Now amplify that by a factor of about 25, and that's what putting you at the front of a classroom would be like.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 10, 2012, 01:29:03 AM
Read through each of your threads again, focusing only on the posts in which people make fun of you.  Now amplify that by a factor of about 25, and that's what putting you at the front of a classroom would be like.

Don't you think it's too complicated task for our friend Bushie?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 10, 2012, 06:26:13 AM

No.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 10, 2012, 06:30:12 AM
What would you want to teach?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 10, 2012, 10:13:28 AM

He would be just fine. 

Bushie, you remember I told you many times that you could come teach in Thailand?  Just go back and get your teaching certification from an Oklahoma 'university', and you can make a $3,500/month salary in Bangkok - a fabulous living here.  And, its really not that difficult for an early-morning type such as yourself.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 10, 2012, 01:03:30 PM


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 10, 2012, 01:41:41 PM
Have you considered pursuing education as a career? Your spirit and your organization in the reporting makes me think you ought to...

I have not considered education as a career.  That is an interesting idea.  I do believe I would be good at it.

What subject could you teach, that makes you believe you would be a good shaper of minds.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 10, 2012, 01:41:57 PM

What's to be 'good' at, guys?  That's like asking 'would he be good at being a garbageman?'  The whole trick of it is to stomach it.  I think he can stomach it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 10, 2012, 01:44:46 PM

Oh good lord.  Stop discouraging him, guys.  Teaching is NOT a job that requires special talent.  It is a job that requires stomaching abysmal pay and loads of unpleasant duty - rather like most jobs.  

One thing the neophyte teacher better understand from the get-go - you aren't going to shape anything, much less a young 'mind'.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 10, 2012, 01:48:04 PM

Oh good lord.  Stop discouraging him, guys.  Teaching is NOT a job that requires special talent.  I it is a job that requires stomaching abysmal pay and loads of unpleasant duty - rather like most jobs. 

One thing the neophyte teacher better understand from the get-go - you aren't going to shape anything, must less a young 'mind'.

We don't want young minds destroyed, opebo.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 10, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Bushie...as a teacher...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUQcoaIdolU


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 10, 2012, 02:24:43 PM
We don't want young minds destroyed, opebo.

It is rare any teacher has any significant effect on young minds, Grumps, and a BushOK type of teacher would only reinforce convention.  You have to be worried - marginally - about the intelligent, open-minded skeptic in the role of teacher, not the deluded conformist.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 10, 2012, 02:30:21 PM
I agree, I think Bushie would make a terrific teacher. He could document his Pryzbylewskian adventure here on the forum for all our amusement.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on September 10, 2012, 05:32:07 PM

He would be just fine. 

Bushie, you remember I told you many times that you could come teach in Thailand?  Just go back and get your teaching certification from an Oklahoma 'university', and you can make a $3,500/month salary in Bangkok - a fabulous living here.  And, its really not that difficult for an early-morning type such as yourself.

I think this may be a good idea...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 10, 2012, 05:44:06 PM

He would be just fine. 

Bushie, you remember I told you many times that you could come teach in Thailand?  Just go back and get your teaching certification from an Oklahoma 'university', and you can make a $3,500/month salary in Bangkok - a fabulous living here.  And, its really not that difficult for an early-morning type such as yourself.

He should just try to get citizenship in the European Union somehow and live off the welfare state...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 10, 2012, 07:46:19 PM
Surely he can claim some sort of "disability" payment from the government? He does seem to have plenty of ailments, one of them must qualify.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 10, 2012, 08:04:30 PM
I doubt I will go into teaching, my heart is just not into it.  I have a lot of patience, but I don't think I have the proper patience needed to deal with students, parents, administration, school board, etc.

As for now, I will be officially starting work at 9:00 am Wednesday, 12 September 2012.  I work 9:00-17:30 MT for the first few weeks.  It could change sometime in October, but for now that's what it will be for at least the next 3 1/2 - 4 weeks.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 11, 2012, 03:46:45 AM
The idea of Bushie teaching children represents what's worst about America.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 11, 2012, 07:01:09 AM
The idea of Bushie teaching children represents what's worst about America.

Seriously?  Teachers only get like $30,000/year, who do you think will become a teacher?   If they'd double or triple the salary it might attract someone a bit more exciting.

As it is they'd be lucky to get someone like BushOK.

Surely he can claim some sort of "disability" payment from the government? He does seem to have plenty of ailments, one of them must qualify.

No.  It is too much to difficult to get this kind of a dole, and that is something much more 'wrong with america' than what kawledgt refers to.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 11, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
The idea of Bushie teaching children represents what's worst about America.

Seriously?  Teachers only get like $30,000/year, who do you think will become a teacher?   If they'd double or triple the salary it might attract someone a bit more exciting.


Where are teachers only making that much a year? Most teachers are starting off at 40 grand. A friend of mine who I went to school with is a teacher now, and is making almost 60 thousand a year. Teachers make good money, and have great benefits.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on September 11, 2012, 10:01:34 AM
The idea of Bushie teaching children represents what's worst about America.

Seriously?  Teachers only get like $30,000/year, who do you think will become a teacher?   If they'd double or triple the salary it might attract someone a bit more exciting.


Where are teachers only making that much a year? Most teachers are starting off at 40 grand. A friend of mine who I went to school with is a teacher now, and is making almost 60 thousand a year. Teachers make good money, and have great benefits.

Here's a schedule of minimum salaries for TX teachers. I don't know how many make the minimum or more.

http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index2.aspx?id=2147507406

Going to salary.com shows the median for teachers in various parts of TX at $45,000, higher ($52,000) in Houston.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Torie on September 11, 2012, 11:45:10 AM
Is it safe to assume that Jeff really has a job now? 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 11, 2012, 11:46:14 AM
Is it safe to assume that Jeff really has a job now? 

Has it ever been safe?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 11, 2012, 11:47:41 AM
Most teachers are starting off at 40 grand. Teachers make good money, and have great benefits.

Haha, no.  It is a grim job with horrific working conditions and survival level pay.  The starting salary is well below 30k, and even at the height of one's career one barely makes enough to support a family.  Yes, so far they do get things like real health insurance and a sort of pension, but as we all know, every effort is being expended to take away even these small sops.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 11, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
Is it safe to assume that Jeff really has a job now? 

Officially starting tomorrow - 9:00 am - 5:30 pm.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 11, 2012, 12:24:42 PM
Most teachers are starting off at 40 grand. Teachers make good money, and have great benefits.

Haha, no.  It is a grim job with horrific working conditions and survival level pay.  The starting salary is well below 30k, and even at the height of one's career one barely makes enough to support a family.

No, it's really not: http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 11, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
There's also this: http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/international/tables/c_2_14.asp


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 11, 2012, 12:36:18 PM
Yeah.. I'm going to just let opebo keep living in his fantasy world, mainly because I know I'm right, and he's wrong.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 11, 2012, 12:37:26 PM
Easy, Inks and (not so) Fat Daddy TX.....opebo's engaging in a bit of excessive hyperbole now.....if we weren't talking about teachers he probably wouldn't even be involved in the discussion ;)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 11, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
Well, I am preparing to begin work tomorrow morning at 9:00 am.  Again, I work 9:00-5:30 pm MT.  I am very excited about starting a fresh new job in a fresh new state!  I will probably hit the sack by 11:00 pm tonight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 11, 2012, 06:17:10 PM
Yeah.. I'm going to just let opebo keep living in his fantasy world, mainly because I know I'm right, and he's wrong.

The table provided above shows I am right - if the average starting salary country wide is $30,000, it is assuredly less in the Midwest and South (balancing out the civilized zones).  And after 15 years of work they rise on average to less than $45,000 - as I said, not really enough to raise a family.

Teachers are paid absurdly low salaries, my friend. I wouldn't blame them for actively sabotaging their 'duties' as a form of protest. 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 11, 2012, 06:25:08 PM
I base your wanting to continue this arguing on the fact that you like me. I'm flattered


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: LastVoter on September 11, 2012, 07:20:48 PM
I base your wanting to continue this arguing on the fact that you like me. I'm flattered
http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/international/tables/c_2_14.asp
I think Opebo is right here. Considering that Bushie falls into "minimum training" category.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: 7,052,770 on September 11, 2012, 07:33:54 PM
My friend with a masters in education is making $28,000 in his second year of teaching. He teaches in the Nashville suburbs.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 11, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
Actually, opebo is not far off the mark especially for Oklahoma.  Oklahoma pays their teachers one of the worst in the nation.  Their pay is not too much higher than burger flippers at McDonalds.  No joke.  Oklahoma produces a lot of good, quality teachers, but a lot of them move to Texas because the pay there is closer to what Andrew described for his state.  It truly is sad.  I love Oklahoma, it will always be home, but the teacher pay sucks.  I don't know what Utah pays, though.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 11, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

That table was also for minimum training.

As the other chart showed, the lowest average starting salary was $32,180 and that was for South Dakota.

Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 11, 2012, 09:05:29 PM
Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Perhaps it was an exaggeration, but the point was they get paid poorly compared to other professions and once you consider that many of the teachers invest their own money in supplies for the classroom and for their students.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 11, 2012, 09:15:13 PM
Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Perhaps it was an exaggeration, but the point was they get paid poorly compared to other professions and once you consider that many of the teachers invest their own money in supplies for the classroom and for their students.

Well you can say that about any profession.  And this is a starting salary we're talking about, not the permanent salary.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 11, 2012, 09:18:56 PM
Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Perhaps it was an exaggeration, but the point was they get paid poorly compared to other professions and once you consider that many of the teachers invest their own money in supplies for the classroom and for their students.

Well you can say that about any profession.  And this is a starting salary we're talking about, not the permanent salary.

I guess I just have memories growing up of a lot of our teachers fleeing to Texas for a lot better pay.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: 7,052,770 on September 12, 2012, 07:21:25 AM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

That table was also for minimum training.

As the other chart showed, the lowest average starting salary was $32,180 and that was for South Dakota.

Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Regardless of whatever chart, I have first hand evidence that the starting salary in Tennessee is less than $30,000.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 12, 2012, 07:38:53 AM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

The general point - that it is a miserable job, with abysmal pay, certainly stands unassailable.

I know the starting salary was around 26-27,000 a few years ago in Missouri, because some poor unfortunates I know had to resort to it.  It is very difficult to live on such a salary - it is a subsistence - and of course in many cases they never progress to the career-topping (haha) $45,000 (itself inadequate to raise a family properly) because they leave the thankless profession long before that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 12, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

That table was also for minimum training.

As the other chart showed, the lowest average starting salary was $32,180 and that was for South Dakota.

Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Regardless of whatever chart, I have first hand evidence that the starting salary in Tennessee is less than $30,000.

You have first hand evidence that a starting salary in one school district in Tennessee is less than $30,000.  That does not mean that THE starting salary in TN is less than $30,000.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on September 12, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

That table was also for minimum training.

As the other chart showed, the lowest average starting salary was $32,180 and that was for South Dakota.

Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Regardless of whatever chart, I have first hand evidence that the starting salary in Tennessee is less than $30,000.
The difference could very well be net v gross. By the time taxes, insurance, retirement, etc are withheld, you could both be right.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 12, 2012, 09:14:39 PM
I had a great day at work today.  I have great coworkers and what looks to be a great job.  Tomorrow, as part of my initial training, I have a meeting in Idaho from 10:00-2:00.  It also happened today that I found out that twice a year I will be going to other regional locations for meetings and such in other parts of the Northwest United States including Sacramento and San Francisco, California; Portland, Oregon; Seattle, Washington; Boise, Idaho; Denver, Colorado and possibly the Southwest such as Los Angeles or San Diego, California; Las Vegas, Nevada; Phoenix, Arizona; Albuquerque, New Mexico; and El Paso, Texas.  The trips would most likely be in late Spring and early Fall so as not to be impacted too much by winter weather.  The trip to Idaho will count as the trip for this early Fall.  Disclaimer: Not all of these cities have actual Aetna offices (i.e. Layton, Utah), but they are locations the Company has set for a regional meeting.  Tomorrow's meeting is in Pocatello, Idaho which is 2 hours to the north of Ogden, Utah.  It's probably the closest city I will go to.  I won't know about the particular trip until about a month before.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on September 12, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
seems legit


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 13, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
Does part of your job require depositing checks?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 04:55:47 PM
Does part of your job require depositing checks?

Haha, thankfully it doesn't!

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Anyway, I'm home from Idaho.  It was a really good trip into a beautiful state.  I'm just going to sit back and relax and watch some football before I hit the sack.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 13, 2012, 05:05:20 PM

You have a problem depositing checks?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 05:10:01 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
This is hilarious! Just about 30 minutes ago, I got a phone call from... XEROX... wanting to re-offer the position they had offered me in early August in Sandy, Utah!  Of course, I'm no longer in the market, but I thought it was a hilarious call!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
One quick update on Kenya.  Throughout the summer, my church, Woods Baptist Church in Choctaw, Oklahoma has been raising money to feed the orphans in October.  The goal was $1500, the deadline was September 23.  We raised the entire $1500 in July and August and now we will be able to feed an entire village in Kenya for the entire month of October.

My physical location may be Utah, but my heart is still in Kisumu, Kenya!  I look forward to going back in just 6 months!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 13, 2012, 07:13:17 PM
  I look forward to going back in just 6 months!

You'll be fired.  Another job down the drain.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 07:15:53 PM
  I look forward to going back in just 6 months!

You'll be fired.  Another job down the drain.

Naturally, I will only go if I am able to take the leave.  If not, then I will not be going.  I am not going to jeopardize this job!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on September 13, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
  I look forward to going back in just 6 months!

You'll be fired.  Another job down the drain.

Naturally, I will only go if I am able to take the leave.  If not, then I will not be going.  I am not going to jeopardize this job!

Bushie, I honestly don't think you are in a position to take any unpaid leave. It is not exactly like you would need a couple days off either.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 07:40:39 PM
  I look forward to going back in just 6 months!

You'll be fired.  Another job down the drain.

Naturally, I will only go if I am able to take the leave.  If not, then I will not be going.  I am not going to jeopardize this job!

Bushie, I honestly don't think you are in a position to take any unpaid leave. It is not exactly like you would need a couple days off either.

The trip isn't until March, so I should have some vacation by then, but I'm not going to take any unpaid leave, and yes, you are right, I've had too much time off already, I'm good for a while!  And, if I can't go in 2013, I can probably go in 2014.  The money will still be there.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Brittain33 on September 13, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
What are your tasks at work?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 09:56:50 PM

I, along with a team, are responsible for maintaining and debugging the Aetna website and give our input for additions to the website or for a new website.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 13, 2012, 11:17:03 PM
I'm going to be heading to bed at 11:00 pm tonight (45 minutes from now) to get ready for Day 3 of my Utah Career. Tomorrow, I'm actually going to be heading down to my new office in Salt Lake City that I will move into on December 1. It's all a part of the initial training. I will be down there from 9:00-12:00. After lunch, I will head back to the Layton office to finish out the day and be back home by 6:00 after the shift ends. I will begin full time at the Layton office and officially start learning the job on Monday. I'll find out for sure tomorrow, but there is a chance my shift could change on September 24, but I don't know what it will change to.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 14, 2012, 12:16:24 AM
They might give you the leave, but when it comes time to downsize or fire someone, you might be the first to go... that's the only concern I would have about the Kenya trip. Jobs might give you the leave but they won't forget it when they think about their most dedicated employees. I am glad to hear things are going well though!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on September 14, 2012, 12:55:10 AM
Whatever happnened to the thread of mod review if Bushie fails to lose x pounds? Has the time elapsed yet? I would love an update on this particular subplot.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 14, 2012, 08:21:44 AM
^^ I agree. It's the same as if you say you're going to leave the company, but stay when they offer you a raise.. it doesn't show company loyalty.

^ I think there is still a few more days on that, but Mikado would know better.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 14, 2012, 12:17:51 PM
I have to say it is completely crazy that jobs don't allow people a couple of weeks off to go somewhere on holiday - such as Kenya.  Such holidays should be required to be paid, by law.

My sympathies to all of you, not just BushOK, facing this oppressive environment.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 14, 2012, 12:24:11 PM
I have to say it is completely crazy that jobs don't allow people a couple of weeks off to go somewhere on holiday - such as Kenya.  Such holidays should be required to be paid, by law.

My sympathies to all of you, not just BushOK, facing this oppressive environment.

Agree entirely, actually.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 14, 2012, 12:36:58 PM
I have to say it is completely crazy that jobs don't allow people a couple of weeks off to go somewhere on holiday - such as Kenya.  Such holidays should be required to be paid, by law.

My sympathies to all of you, not just BushOK, facing this oppressive environment.

Agree entirely, actually.

Another reason why the idea that large numbers of Europeans would vote Republican if they just lived in this country is ridiculous.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 14, 2012, 03:06:16 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.

What was this problem?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 14, 2012, 07:39:34 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.

What was this problem?

If you remember, ON Company which occurred in between Oklahoma Natural Gas and Ameriscam was stretching into money laundering territory which included depositing other people's checks into my account and then take the checks out less a small "handling fee".  Bad news.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 14, 2012, 10:03:56 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.

What was this problem?

If you remember, ON Company which occurred in between Oklahoma Natural Gas and Ameriscam was stretching into money laundering territory which included depositing other people's checks into my account and then take the checks out less a small "handling fee".  Bad news.

Ameriscam?  So did you finally concede that Ameriplan was a scam?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 14, 2012, 10:09:34 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.

What was this problem?

If you remember, ON Company which occurred in between Oklahoma Natural Gas and Ameriscam was stretching into money laundering territory which included depositing other people's checks into my account and then take the checks out less a small "handling fee".  Bad news.

Ameriscam?  So did you finally concede that Ameriplan was a scam?


I conceded that a long time ago.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 15, 2012, 08:33:47 PM
It's been a pretty good Saturday watching college football.  Tomorrow, I will probably attend my first Worship Service in Utah.  I plan to go to the First Southern Baptist Church of Salt Lake City.  Sunday School is at 9:45 and Morning Worship is at 11:00.  I'll leave the hotel about 8:30 and I should be home by 1:00.  The rest of the day tomorrow will be spent watching NFL Football.  Monday, I begin training for my actual job.  I started work last Wednesday, but have only spent a day and a half at the Layton office.  I went to Idaho on Thursday and to Sandy, Utah on Friday morning.

I'm liking this job so far and I believe it will be a keeper.  I may have just found me a new city to live in!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on September 16, 2012, 10:37:21 AM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

That table was also for minimum training.

As the other chart showed, the lowest average starting salary was $32,180 and that was for South Dakota.

Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Inks, you know perfectly well that a median average means that 50% of new teachers make below said figure.

Whatever happnened to the thread of mod review if Bushie fails to lose x pounds? Has the time elapsed yet? I would love an update on this particular subplot.

Deadline is two weeks from now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 16, 2012, 11:40:34 AM
I may have just found me a new city to live in!

Did you just intentionally but subtly reference the 1980s band 'the Talking Heads'?  Personally I find that rather cool.

BushOK, best of luck to you.  It appears I may be unemployed soon, and I fear I'm far less employable than your good self.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 16, 2012, 04:21:38 PM
Whatever happnened to the thread of mod review if Bushie fails to lose x pounds? Has the time elapsed yet? I would love an update on this particular subplot.

Deadline is two weeks from now.

Deadline is two weeks away and I'm just 3 pounds away!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 16, 2012, 04:33:05 PM
Opebo, you said that teachers get $30,000 a year and that the starting salary is well below $30,000.  In some areas, it may be below $30,000, but that's not what you said.

That table was also for minimum training.

As the other chart showed, the lowest average starting salary was $32,180 and that was for South Dakota.

Also, Jeff, they make a lot more than "burger flippers at McDonald's".  If we assume the burger flipper gets paid $8/hour and works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd make $16,640, less than half of what the average starting teacher makes in Oklahoma (which is $35,880).

Inks, you know perfectly well that a median average means that 50% of new teachers make below said figure.

Whatever happnened to the thread of mod review if Bushie fails to lose x pounds? Has the time elapsed yet? I would love an update on this particular subplot.

Deadline is two weeks from now.

Yes, but it also means 50% (roughly) make above that.  My claim isn't that all teachers make above $30,000, but there's no state in the country where most teachers are making below $30,000.  There probably isn't even a state where close to 50% is making less than $30,000, considering that the lowest average is more than $2,000 above that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 16, 2012, 04:36:24 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.

What was this problem?

If you remember, ON Company which occurred in between Oklahoma Natural Gas and Ameriscam was stretching into money laundering territory which included depositing other people's checks into my account and then take the checks out less a small "handling fee".  Bad news.

Oh, I missed when you worked there.  I thought you were referring to ONG and left off the "G" on accident.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 16, 2012, 08:50:10 PM

My paychecks, no.

Other people's checks, yes.

I think Andrew was hinting at On Company, and that's what I was mindful of when I responded.

What was this problem?

If you remember, ON Company which occurred in between Oklahoma Natural Gas and Ameriscam was stretching into money laundering territory which included depositing other people's checks into my account and then take the checks out less a small "handling fee".  Bad news.

Oh, I missed when you worked there.  I thought you were referring to ONG and left off the "G" on accident.

I never officially worked there.  I discovered their borderline-criminal activites before I started.  It caused me to leave ONG, but I never actually made any moves with them except to quit before I was to officially start.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 16, 2012, 08:53:08 PM
I may have just found me a new city to live in!

Did you just intentionally but subtly reference the 1980s band 'the Talking Heads'?  Personally I find that rather cool.

BushOK, best of luck to you.  It appears I may be unemployed soon, and I fear I'm far less employable than your good self.

I don't even know who that band is, but I'm sorry to hear that you may be unemployed.  I don't know what the Thai economy is like, but I hope you find employment very soon.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on September 17, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
I may have just found me a new city to live in!

Did you just intentionally but subtly reference the 1980s band 'the Talking Heads'?  Personally I find that rather cool.

I don't even know who that band is, but I'm sorry to hear that you may be unemployed.  I don't know what the Thai economy is like, but I hope you find employment very soon.

Talking Heads:

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The song you accidentally quoted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB9W8St1pDc) is 'Cities'.  I love it - my favorite line is "I smell home cooking... its only the river".

As for Thai economic - it is fantastic as always.  There are huge numbers of jobs, I just can't bear to get up in the morning-time.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 17, 2012, 02:07:41 PM
Lunch time in Layton, Utah!  I have a really good boss.  He is going to allow me to take a half day off Wednesday and get my drivers license switched from Oklahoma to Utah and start the process of becoming a Utah resident.  The time off will be unpaid, but it is generous from my boss who knows that I have just gotten into Utah and only have a limited amount of time to get everythng switched over.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on September 18, 2012, 11:09:57 AM
Whatever happnened to the thread of mod review if Bushie fails to lose x pounds? Has the time elapsed yet? I would love an update on this particular subplot.

Deadline is two weeks from now.

Deadline is two weeks away and I'm just 3 pounds away!
Pics or it didn't happen.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 18, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
Whatever happnened to the thread of mod review if Bushie fails to lose x pounds? Has the time elapsed yet? I would love an update on this particular subplot.

Deadline is two weeks from now.

Deadline is two weeks away and I'm just 3 pounds away!
Pics or it didn't happen.

Put a piece of paper that says "Atlas" while you're on the scale and we can see the weight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
Well, I've got my car officially registered in Utah complete with Utah plates.  Tomorrow, I've got a nice, long day.  I found out this morning at work that they are moving us down to Salt Lake sooner than December 1.  October 15 is the new date.  I'm already looking at apartments...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
I am exploring my housing options for the month of October.  My lease with the hotel expires on October 2 and I will probably extend it out another 2 weeks at least until the apartment opens up.  Things are going along splendidly in Utah.  I have started my 3rd week in Utah and things could not be going more smoothly.  I'm just exploring my housing options for next month.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 09:56:56 PM
Well, I've got my car officially registered in Utah complete with Utah plates.  Tomorrow, I've got a nice, long day.  I found out this morning at work that they are moving us down to Salt Lake sooner than December 1.  October 15 is the new date.  I'm already looking at apartments...

Why do that so quickly?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on September 18, 2012, 10:05:18 PM
Well, I've got my car officially registered in Utah complete with Utah plates.  Tomorrow, I've got a nice, long day.  I found out this morning at work that they are moving us down to Salt Lake sooner than December 1.  October 15 is the new date.  I'm already looking at apartments...

Why do that so quickly?

You mean most people don't change license plates before finding a roof over their head.
How quaint:)

Congrats on the move, Jeff. Glad that you are enjoying it out there. 


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 10:16:33 PM
Also, did you change your insurance to reflect the new registration?  You can run into legal trouble if you haven't done that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 10:18:31 PM
Also, did you change your insurance to reflect the new registration?  You can run into legal trouble if you haven't done that.

Yes, I changed my insurance before I left Oklahoma.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 10:22:13 PM
Also, did you change your insurance to reflect the new registration?  You can run into legal trouble if you haven't done that.

Yes, I changed my insurance before I left Oklahoma.

You changed it before you even registered the car?  That's kinda odd, and also contrary to Utah law.

I don't see why you're making all of these changes so fast.  They're unnecessary at this point.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on September 18, 2012, 11:00:00 PM
Has any of the mod squad worked their techno magic to confirm that he is, in fact, posting from Utah?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 11:02:38 PM
Also, did you change your insurance to reflect the new registration?  You can run into legal trouble if you haven't done that.

Yes, I changed my insurance before I left Oklahoma.

You changed it before you even registered the car?  That's kinda odd, and also contrary to Utah law.

I don't see why you're making all of these changes so fast.  They're unnecessary at this point.

I wanted to get them done early on so I don't have to take much time off work.  I will have to take a half day or so next week or the week after and change my driver's license, and I want to do it before we get too deep into training.  Once we get into October, I don't want to take any more time off the rest of the year.  I really don't want to even do it now, but I have to do it because the DMV is not open on Saturdays.

As far as the apartment goes, since I am working Monday-Friday during the apartment's business hours, I can only sign the lease and stuff like that on a Saturday.

Another reason I'm doing it so early is I take my voting privilege very seriously and I cannot register to vote unless I have a Utah driver's license and I must register minimum 15 days before the election to ensure I can vote in November's contests.  If I were moving up here let's say in early August like I had originally planned, I wouldn't be in such a hurry, nor or if I had moved up here after the election.  Since we are getting into the last part of September, I've got to get busy, because the election is just 7 weeks away, so the deadline to register is only 5 weeks.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
They don't register cars and drivers' licenses at the same place in Utah?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Eraserhead on September 18, 2012, 11:12:45 PM
Congrats, Bushie. You've managed to move to one of the few states where your vote matters even less than it does in Oklahoma. :P


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 11:28:28 PM
memphis, this photo was taken 09/04/2012.

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Also, look closely in the lower right corner of this picture - Utah's ABC Station

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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 18, 2012, 11:29:02 PM
They don't register cars and drivers' licenses at the same place in Utah?

I had to change my license and car registration to Minnesota at difference places.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 11:47:15 PM
They don't register cars and drivers' licenses at the same place in Utah?

No, unfortunately they don't.  They are both DMV, but they are completely separate divisions.  Even if they did, for Drivers Licenses Utah requires a passport or birth certificate to verify US Citizenship and I left both documents in Oklahoma by accident.  My mother just sent the passport to me via certified mail today, so I have to wait until it gets here.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 18, 2012, 11:48:25 PM
the question on all of our minds' is, is there a lady on the radar?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
Congrats, Bushie. You've managed to move to one of the few states where your vote matters even less than it does in Oklahoma. :P

This is true.  When I was in high school or college, and even throughout my entire 20s, I never envisioned Utah a place I would move to mainly because it's smaller than Oklahoma and it's heavily Mormon.  I always envisioned somewhere that has more electoral votes in Oklahoma and is somewhat of a swing state, which is why I initially looked at Missouri 5 years ago.  Texas, of course, has more electoral votes than Oklahoma, but it's not a perennial swing state.  Now, since I've moved to Utah, I've thrown all of that out the window.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 18, 2012, 11:53:54 PM
the question on all of our minds' is, is there a lady on the radar?

Not at this time.  I'm not in the market right now.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 18, 2012, 11:56:34 PM
Has any of the mod squad worked their techno magic to confirm that he is, in fact, posting from Utah?

Yes, he is.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Insula Dei on September 19, 2012, 08:44:56 AM
Anyone care to summarize the past 10 pages or so (the Utah-episode so far) in three sentences or fewer?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on September 19, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 19, 2012, 09:43:14 AM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   

Probably because he wanted to "feel" like a proper Utah resident. Bushie seems to place a lot of value on meaningless stuff like that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 19, 2012, 10:30:39 AM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   

Probably because he wanted to "feel" like a proper Utah resident. Bushie seems to place a lot of value on meaningless stuff like that.

I've already answered that question 10 times, so I'm not going to answer it again.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Franzl on September 19, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   

Probably because he wanted to "feel" like a proper Utah resident. Bushie seems to place a lot of value on meaningless stuff like that.

I've already answered that question 10 times, so I'm not going to answer it again.

Voting? Why go through all the trouble when you could just as easily cast an absentee ballot in Oklahoma?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 19, 2012, 11:26:42 AM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   

Probably because he wanted to "feel" like a proper Utah resident. Bushie seems to place a lot of value on meaningless stuff like that.

I've already answered that question 10 times, so I'm not going to answer it again.

Voting? Why go through all the trouble when you could just as easily cast an absentee ballot in Oklahoma?

Because Obama needs his vote in Utah more than in Oklahoma.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 19, 2012, 03:36:57 PM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   

Probably because he wanted to "feel" like a proper Utah resident. Bushie seems to place a lot of value on meaningless stuff like that.

I've already answered that question 10 times, so I'm not going to answer it again.

Wait, really?  Because I haven't seen that.  How do you have a permanent address?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 19, 2012, 08:53:21 PM
Wait, wait, how the hell are you switching your vehicle registration, drivers license, voter registration, and car insurance all over to Utah when you don't even have a permanent address in the state yet? And even if Utah law for some reason allows you to do all those things by giving them your hotel address and room number or whatev, why would you go through the time (and money) to change all those things now when you'll have to update them in a couple of weeks anyway when you find an apartment?
   

Probably because he wanted to "feel" like a proper Utah resident. Bushie seems to place a lot of value on meaningless stuff like that.

I've already answered that question 10 times, so I'm not going to answer it again.

Wait, really?  Because I haven't seen that.  How do you have a permanent address?

The question was answered with the response that I could exercise my privilege to vote.  However, at lunch today, I found out I may be able to get into the apartment either September 29, October 6 or October 13, all Saturday's, because my application has been approved and they are just waiting to get the furniture in the room (it is a brand new building just completed construction and a furnished studio apartment).  The way I interpret Utah voting law, I have until 15 days before the election to register to vote.  With the election on November 6, this would mean i have to be registered by Monday, October 22, 2012.  I should find out tomorrow exactly what Saturday I can sign the lease and move in.  I'm thinking if it's on or before October 13, I can wait until then to get my driver's license changed and thus register to vote.  I'll just have to go online and change my address for the car tags and registration.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 19, 2012, 09:50:41 PM
Oh, I meant to the first question.  What address could you have possibly used if you don't know where you're living yet?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 19, 2012, 10:10:46 PM
Oh, I meant to the first question.  What address could you have possibly used if you don't know where you're living yet?

I would have used the extended stay address.  The post office recognizes it as a legitimate address and they have people who have been over 2 years.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 19, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
Oh, I meant to the first question.  What address could you have possibly used if you don't know where you're living yet?

I would have used the extended stay address.  The post office recognizes it as a legitimate address and they have people who have been over 2 years.

But what address?  Your hotel?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 19, 2012, 10:21:24 PM
I don't understand why the hesitation to take the jump. It's like BushKE has one foot in and one foot in OK, and that's honestly the worst way to live a life.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 19, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Oh, I meant to the first question.  What address could you have possibly used if you don't know where you're living yet?

I would have used the extended stay address.  The post office recognizes it as a legitimate address and they have people who have been over 2 years.

But what address?  Your hotel?

Yes, the hotel address with my room number.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 19, 2012, 11:15:34 PM
I don't understand why the hesitation to take the jump. It's like BushKE has one foot in and one foot in OK, and that's honestly the worst way to live a life.

I'm about to take the second foot out of Oklahoma.  I'm getting into an apartment more than a month sooner than I had planned.  My hand is being forced into that, really, because my office location is moving to Salt Lake City 6 weeks earlier than originally thought.  October 15 instead of December 1.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 19, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
I don't understand why the hesitation to take the jump. It's like BushKE has one foot in and one foot in OK, and that's honestly the worst way to live a life.

I'm about to take the second foot out of Oklahoma.  I'm getting into an apartment more than a month sooner than I had planned.  My hand is being forced into that, really, because my office location is moving to Salt Lake City 6 weeks earlier than originally thought.  October 15 instead of December 1.

And because you need to do it if you're seriously about staying in Utah. You won't truly be able to adapt or feel comfortable living out of an extended stay hotel. You'll just feel like a visitor.

Embrace Utah! Be on with their people! And you'll be fine.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 20, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
Oh, I meant to the first question.  What address could you have possibly used if you don't know where you're living yet?

I would have used the extended stay address.  The post office recognizes it as a legitimate address and they have people who have been over 2 years.

But what address?  Your hotel?

Yes, the hotel address with my room number.

And for how long do you think you'll be living at the hotel?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 20, 2012, 09:11:12 AM
So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 20, 2012, 09:50:29 AM
So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

Yes ^^^ which is why this is so silly. I wish BushKE would just commit to Utah fully, find a permanent place to live and go all in. Otherwise, he will have one foot in OK and one in UT and end up letting it affect his work which will ultimately lead to getting fired. No one wants to see that.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on September 20, 2012, 09:52:37 AM
So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

Yes ^^^ which is why this is so silly. I wish BushKE would just commit to Utah fully, find a permanent place to live and go all in. Otherwise, he will have one foot in OK and one in UT and end up letting it affect his work which will ultimately lead to getting fired. No one wants to see that.

I agree, but at the same time he also has his THIRD foot in Kenya. I don't think a man with three feet will have an easy time commiting to staying in Utah.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 20, 2012, 10:06:49 AM
Oh, I meant to the first question.  What address could you have possibly used if you don't know where you're living yet?

I would have used the extended stay address.  The post office recognizes it as a legitimate address and they have people who have been over 2 years.

But what address?  Your hotel?

Yes, the hotel address with my room number.

And for how long do you think you'll be living at the hotel?

If you haven't been paying attention, I plan on being in the hotel another week or two at the most.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 20, 2012, 10:07:41 AM
So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

I should be able to change it online.  We'll see, though.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 20, 2012, 10:09:02 AM
So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

Yes ^^^ which is why this is so silly. I wish BushKE would just commit to Utah fully, find a permanent place to live and go all in. Otherwise, he will have one foot in OK and one in UT and end up letting it affect his work which will ultimately lead to getting fired. No one wants to see that.

Is one possibly two weeks not soon enough for you?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 20, 2012, 10:14:33 AM
So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

Yes ^^^ which is why this is so silly. I wish BushKE would just commit to Utah fully, find a permanent place to live and go all in. Otherwise, he will have one foot in OK and one in UT and end up letting it affect his work which will ultimately lead to getting fired. No one wants to see that.

Is one possibly two weeks not soon enough for you?

Two weeks is soon enough.. :P

I just hope you stick to it and not make excuses. I'm sure you're not all that comfortable living out of an extended stay hotel.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 20, 2012, 08:03:10 PM
Good Thursday Evening! Another really good day at work. One more day before the weekend! This will be my final weekend in the extended stay hotel. I will be signing the lease on an apartment in Midvale, UT (Salt Lake City suburb) next Saturday, September 29, 2012 and will be signing out of this extended stay at that time! Other good news is my mother will be flying up here on Saturday, October 6, 2012 to help me get situated! That weekend is her 60th birthday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 21, 2012, 08:01:27 PM
Good Friday Evening! The weekend has arrived.  This is my final weekend in the Extended Stay hotel before I move into my new apartment next Saturday, September 29, 2012 at 11:00 am.  That’s when I sign the lease and move in.  I will be moving out of the extended stay earlier that morning, probably leaving Ogden by 9:45.  I’ll probably load the car on Friday night.  Tomorrow, I am going to the apartment and putting down the deposit to secure the apartment.  I’m just getting a furnished studio apartment.  What’s extremely nice is all the utilities are paid and I get free cable through Comcast!  I believe it’s only the basic standard definition cable, but I am free to upgrade the cable if I so desire.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 24, 2012, 08:42:43 PM
A little update on work.  Things are going tremendously well right now!  I'm still in training for another 3 weeks, through October 12, but things are going very well.  As I've mentioned, I've only got 4 days left in this extended stay hotel before I sign the lease on the apartment in Midvale at 11:00 am Saturday.  Tomorrow night, I will finish the laundry; Wednesday night, I'll start packing; Thursday night is Cleveland Browns vs. Baltimore Ravens so nothing there; Friday night, I'll load the car and Saturday morning, I'll get up early, get the money order, and head to the apartment.  I'll likely have to make two trips up and down, so I may not check out of the hotel officially until Sunday, though I will sleep in the apartment Saturday night.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 28, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
Tomorrow is moving day.  I'll be signing the lease to the apartment in the SLC suburb of Midvale tomorrow at 11:00 am, although I won't officially turn in the keys to the hotel until Sunday.  Tomorrow, I plan to wake up around 7:30, go get the money order at 9:00, retrieve my mail from the week from the hotel at 10:00, and heading down to Midvale by 10:10.  It will take me all of 50-60 minutes to get to the apartment complex.  I hope to have the apartment keys in hand by 12:00.  After I unload the car, I will go to Best Buy and purchase a small 24" TV and then settle in for the evening.  I will then wake up about 8:00 Sunday and be back to the hotel by 10:00 to take one final check of the room and officially check out.  That should put me back to the hotel by 12:00 Sunday so I can start getting ready for work on Monday.

Why am I telling you all this?  Because, I'm bored...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Paul Kemp on September 29, 2012, 09:13:36 AM
OK I've missed a lot. Anyone have the Sparknotes?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 29, 2012, 01:13:45 PM
OK I've missed a lot. Anyone have the Sparknotes?

He got a job in Utah, living in an extended stay hotel, getting his own aparment.

So far it's been a boring month....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on September 29, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
I don't know what you guys are taking about. My unmarried AP Euro teacher earned over 100K a year and owns a Jaguar.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on September 29, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
BushOK: how's the weight?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 29, 2012, 07:06:25 PM

Not doing too well.  I'm going to have to accept the infractions.  How long does mod review last?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Bacon King on September 29, 2012, 07:09:39 PM

Not doing too well.  I'm going to have to accept the infractions.  How long does mod review last?

Five days I think? Maybe a week.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 29, 2012, 07:29:12 PM

Not doing too well.  I'm going to have to accept the infractions.  How long does mod review last?

Five days I think? Maybe a week.

Okay, thanks.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 29, 2012, 07:31:00 PM
Mikado, is there any way I can start my mod review on Thursday, October 4?  I want to post actively during Wednesday's debate.  So, could you impose it on Thursday morning, please?  I would greatly appreciate it.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on September 29, 2012, 10:36:45 PM
Mikado, is there any way I can start my mod review on Thursday, October 4?  I want to post actively during Wednesday's debate.  So, could you impose it on Thursday morning, please?  I would greatly appreciate it.

Because you're honest and facing your punishment like a man, I'll be fine with waiting until Thursday. 

Anyway, was curious as to what you ended up at.  Again, this isn't me being hard on you, it's really important for you to lose some of that gut so that you don't die by the time you're 40.  I think this is an interesting experiment: I don't plan on doing it again.  Anyway, you'll be put on mod review Thursday morning and get off it again in a week.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 30, 2012, 12:04:44 AM
Mikado, is there any way I can start my mod review on Thursday, October 4?  I want to post actively during Wednesday's debate.  So, could you impose it on Thursday morning, please?  I would greatly appreciate it.

Because you're honest and facing your punishment like a man, I'll be fine with waiting until Thursday. 

Anyway, was curious as to what you ended up at.  Again, this isn't me being hard on you, it's really important for you to lose some of that gut so that you don't die by the time you're 40.  I think this is an interesting experiment: I don't plan on doing it again.  Anyway, you'll be put on mod review Thursday morning and get off it again in a week.

I'm not really sure.  I haven't been near a scale in a while.  I'm probably ~245.  I won't have access to buy a scale for another week so I'm not real sure.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on September 30, 2012, 12:24:06 PM
Bushie, I admire your honesty here.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 30, 2012, 12:34:55 PM

Thanks, Sim!  Its about integrity.  Integrity is very precious and once damaged can almost never be repaird completely.  This is a result of the faith I have in Jesus Christ.  My faith, and just the decency of being a homo-sapien, implores me to be honest.  Have I thought about lying to get out of mod review?  Sure, but I am trying to display Christ as much as possible.

Plus, I know that mod review is only a week, and my posts should still go through because I am not being punished for misbehaving, as Mikado said, it's more of a real-life prodding.  I also know that by Thursday, October 11, I will be back to full posting and I also know that in early January, if I don't accrue any more points, all those points will be removed and I will be back to 0.  Given my track record, I accrue maybe 2-3 points per year.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 30, 2012, 05:47:17 PM
Today has been a productive day.  I've got my apartment nearly clean from the move in, just one more spot to take care of.  After that, I will be ready to add in these things called life and work into this apartment.  Right now, I'm taking a mini break enjoying the Saints /Packers game which looks like the momentum is swinging in the Big Easy's direction.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 30, 2012, 08:18:31 PM
Bushie, you should start going to shows. Salt Lake City actually has a really good scene. Going to shows and dancing is a very physically exhausting workout. I usually take a shower whenever I get home from one, even if I'm going to bed right afterwards, because I am that sweaty.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 30, 2012, 09:19:38 PM
Bushie, you should start going to shows. Salt Lake City actually has a really good scene. Going to shows and dancing is a very physically exhausting workout. I usually take a shower whenever I get home from one, even if I'm going to bed right afterwards, because I am that sweaty.

I am going to get more active in Salt Lake City than I was in Oklahoma City, I just have to figure out what I want to do.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 30, 2012, 09:56:22 PM
http://www.slchardcore.com

Next show: Oct 9 - Handguns, State Champs, Allison Weiss, Moneypenny, Rejoin the Team - 6pm - $10

GO GO GO

Also for more info:

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Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 01, 2012, 12:42:18 AM
http://www.slchardcore.com

Next show: Oct 9 - Handguns, State Champs, Allison Weiss, Moneypenny, Rejoin the Team - 6pm - $10

GO GO GO

Also for more info:

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I'll definitely consider it.  I have thought about concerts and the like.  I just dont know, yet.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 01, 2012, 09:27:50 PM
Work went well today. I really enjoy what I do. It is a joy to go to work each day.

I won't be able to check my weight for another couple weeks.  I need to buy a scale, but I want to wait until the next paycheck (October 12).


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 01, 2012, 09:33:17 PM
Work went well today. I really enjoy what I do. It is a joy to go to work each day.

I won't be able to check my weight for another couple weeks.  I need to buy a scale, but I want to wait until the next paycheck (October 12).

Bathrooms in the malls around you don't have those quarter-activated scales?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 01, 2012, 10:03:14 PM
Work went well today. I really enjoy what I do. It is a joy to go to work each day.

I won't be able to check my weight for another couple weeks.  I need to buy a scale, but I want to wait until the next paycheck (October 12).

Bathrooms in the malls around you don't have those quarter-activated scales?

Usually by the time I see one, I've recently eaten, so I know the result will be skewed.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 02, 2012, 03:42:37 AM
Work went well today. I really enjoy what I do. It is a joy to go to work each day.

I won't be able to check my weight for another couple weeks.  I need to buy a scale, but I want to wait until the next paycheck (October 12).

Bathrooms in the malls around you don't have those quarter-activated scales?

Usually by the time I see one, I've recently eaten, so I know the result will be skewed.

So account for the 1-2 pound skew.  It should still give you an approximate.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: opebo on October 02, 2012, 05:01:46 AM
I don't know what you guys are taking about. My unmarried AP Euro teacher earned over 100K a year and owns a Jaguar.

Um, how is it that you know how much he or she makes?  Did you go for a ride in the Jaguar?

Anyway, to be serious, 100,000 is an extremely atypical income for a teacher.  Even half that is not usual in the majority of the country, alas.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 04, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
Well, any moment, I should be placed on mod review for a week.  I will still be as active as I normally am, the mods will just have to send my posts through.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on October 04, 2012, 10:39:37 AM
I just noticed on here about honesty and integrity. Was this something that came after telling everyone on facebook about your job with Rainbow Playground, even after the forum was told it was actually selling vaccums? I can't remember.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 04, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
I never said I was perfect. :)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 04, 2012, 09:09:59 PM
Today was Thursday, October 4, 2012.  I am beginning my second month in the Beehive State.  It's been a wonderful month and I look forward to many more months in this state.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: The Mikado on October 05, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
Just remembered this, one sec.  Let me know if you want another go sometime, Bushie, and I'd be happy to, in case you thought that the added pressure will be helpful.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 05, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
Im conflicted by the personal messages from Dave.  I just wanted to test if I am indeed on mod review.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: memphis on October 05, 2012, 09:27:42 PM
So, is he on mod review or not?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 05, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Yes, memphis, I am.  I should be off Wednesday.


Title: The BushOK Institute for Updates
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 05, 2012, 11:04:20 PM
Im conflicted by the personal messages from Dave.  I just wanted to test if I am indeed on mod review.

Dave has sent you personal messages?  What have you done to be so blessed?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 06, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
Im conflicted by the personal messages from Dave.  I just wanted to test if I am indeed on mod review.

Dave has sent you personal messages?  What have you done to be so blessed?


I'm sure they are auto-generated.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 07, 2012, 12:57:47 AM
Well, I've got scales now, so I will be weighing first thing Sunday morning.  At least, my size 40 jeans are still big on me.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 07, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Weighed in at 267 this morning.  September was not good!  I will be starting my diet after my Mom leaves on Tuesday.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 08, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
I'm taking my mother out to eat tomorrow night for her birthday.  Starting Tuesday at 5:00 am, I will begin my diet.  My goal is to be at 250 by Christmas and 225 by my 31st birthday, which is a little over 6 1/2 months away.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 11, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
I'm back!!!!! Off moderator review and ready to debate the debate!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on October 12, 2012, 07:50:42 AM
I'm back!!!!! Off moderator review and ready to debate the debate!

I will forever hate Mikado for letting you out of jail.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 12, 2012, 08:26:19 AM
So how much did you lose?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on October 12, 2012, 08:49:05 AM

Dude, he gained, that's why Mikado locked him up.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 12, 2012, 07:42:40 PM

I have to be honest, I haven't lost anything.  I just started a new diet this past Tuesday after my mother flew back to Oklahoma.  The 3rd quarter was not good for me at all.  July wasn't too bad, but August I had the thought of Utah in the beginning of the month, then my mother was hospitalized for 9 days in the middle of the month, then family came in at the end of the month and Utah came back on the scene in late August.  Early September, of course, I was moving to Utah, first setting in the hotel in Ogden.  I didn't want to make too many big Walmart runs because i knew I would soon be leaving the hotel.  Things have finally begun to settle down for me.  I'm not using these events as excuses, but just as obstacles that I failed to overcome.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 13, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
If you guys have me friended on facebook, check my profile out!  It's up!!  By "It", I do mean my 2012 Christmas Tree!!  This is the official beginning of my first Christmas in my 30's!!  It still needs a star, a skirt, and some ornaments, but its up!!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 13, 2012, 11:43:21 PM

I have to be honest, I haven't lost anything.  I just started a new diet this past Tuesday after my mother flew back to Oklahoma.  The 3rd quarter was not good for me at all.  July wasn't too bad, but August I had the thought of Utah in the beginning of the month, then my mother was hospitalized for 9 days in the middle of the month, then family came in at the end of the month and Utah came back on the scene in late August.  Early September, of course, I was moving to Utah, first setting in the hotel in Ogden.  I didn't want to make too many big Walmart runs because i knew I would soon be leaving the hotel.  Things have finally begun to settle down for me.  I'm not using these events as excuses, but just as obstacles that I failed to overcome.

So you lost like 10 or 15 pounds (or whatever it was you started losing once this started) and gained it back?  How?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 14, 2012, 09:23:31 AM

I have to be honest, I haven't lost anything.  I just started a new diet this past Tuesday after my mother flew back to Oklahoma.  The 3rd quarter was not good for me at all.  July wasn't too bad, but August I had the thought of Utah in the beginning of the month, then my mother was hospitalized for 9 days in the middle of the month, then family came in at the end of the month and Utah came back on the scene in late August.  Early September, of course, I was moving to Utah, first setting in the hotel in Ogden.  I didn't want to make too many big Walmart runs because i knew I would soon be leaving the hotel.  Things have finally begun to settle down for me.  I'm not using these events as excuses, but just as obstacles that I failed to overcome.

So you lost like 10 or 15 pounds (or whatever it was you started losing once this started) and gained it back?  How?

I was guessing before without scales.  I was completely wrong...


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 15, 2012, 01:33:57 PM
No, you were blatantly lying before.  I'll be honest... I never believed that you were losing weight when you said, you were, and this proves it.  This is not guessing.  You had it down to decimals, and you even said your pants were looser:

I know it's not good to weigh yourself more than once a day (or really once a week), but I had to take a peek just a bit ago.  I'm already underneath what I weighed in at Saturday morning.  I was at 263.8 Saturday morning and down to 263.4 Saturday night.  I'm finished with food for the night, so I'm pretty much guaranteed to lose a little bit of weight.

The weight is dropping like nobody's business.  As of this morning, I am down to 258.1.  I started at 263.8 on Friday.  That's nearly 6 pounds in 72 hours...

Thanks, guys!  My smaller jeans (size 38) are already fitting better.  In addition, my bigger jeans (size 40) are starting to get too big.  A few more pounds and the right/wrong circumstances, I could give my coworkers an eye full!  I'm about 20 lbs from needing to start buying size 36 jeans.

Good Thursday Morning, folks!  As of yesterday morning, I have lost 7 1/2 pounds.  I'm down to 256.4.  I'm continuing to lose weight and I am going to keep this up all the way until at least Thanksgiving, most likely, longer.  In the near term, I'm hoping to be down to 250 by the middle of August.


Not near as often.  When I went this past Monday, it was the first time I had gone in a couple months.

Good cause the threat to ban you for being a fat still exists, no?

At least mod review, yes.  The criteria for avoiding the 50 death points was 25 pounds.  I've got 6 weeks left and I have lost 15 pounds.  It's been more difficult with my mother being in the hospital this week, and because of that, I'm still going out, but I'm just getting a singly patty burger with no cheese and no fries.  I started at 264, and I'm down to 250.  So, I guess that's 14 pounds to be exact.

If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.


You should really try to get down to 190 at the very least then, purely for health reasons. You'd still be pretty plump.

Really, my ideal weight would be around 180.  I realize that unless i make a major lifestyle change, it's going to be near impossible to get down under 200.  It's not impossible, but near impossible.  I figure 205-210 is a heck of a lot better than 285 where I started all this.  I'll still be borderline obese, but I'll be a lot healthier being only 25-30 pounds overweight instead of 100+ pounds.

Changing the subject just a bit, but I have 3 weeks left in my challenge issued by Mikado.  I have just 3 pounds to lose from reaching the goal in that challenge.  Despite all the moving, I'm still losing weight!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on October 15, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
Stop trying to get me on small technicalities.

:)


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 15, 2012, 02:08:22 PM
It'll be interesting to see his reaction to this.  He's seldom admitted to actually lying, but there's not a good way to say he approximated losing "14 pounds to be exact."  Comments like that and the one saying he dropped pants sizes completely eliminate the possibility that he thought we would believe weights to the tenth of a pound were guesses without scales.

And I don't point out all of this to be mean.  I do it because, like I've said before, Bushie, you need help.  This is neither normal nor healthy activity.  Instead of discussing your problems only on the Internet (not saying you have to stop), these are problems that you really should be seeing a doctor for.  When you lie this much, something's not right.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on October 15, 2012, 05:02:04 PM
Inks, where is the lie exactly?  It is rather easy to bounce 15lbs in the matter of a few weeks- hell boxers and wrestlers can do this in a day.  Wasn't he in OKC when he was quoting decimal weights?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 15, 2012, 06:09:41 PM
Inks, where is the lie exactly?  It is rather easy to bounce 15lbs in the matter of a few weeks- hell boxers and wrestlers can do this in a day.  Wasn't he in OKC when he was quoting decimal weights?

His last update was 3 weeks prior to the deadline, when he said he was 3 pounds away.  Even that is a weird number go guesstimate.  We'll find out what he fully meant when he said he was "guessing before without scales", but it's pretty hard to gain 22 pounds in 3 weeks.  The most I knew of anybody losing or gaining weight in wrestling was our heavyweight gaining 5 pounds overnight after "not eating"... that was a lie, and a loss of 6 pounds.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on October 15, 2012, 06:44:32 PM
Inks, where is the lie exactly?  It is rather easy to bounce 15lbs in the matter of a few weeks- hell boxers and wrestlers can do this in a day.  Wasn't he in OKC when he was quoting decimal weights?

His last update was 3 weeks prior to the deadline, when he said he was 3 pounds away.  Even that is a weird number go guesstimate.  We'll find out what he fully meant when he said he was "guessing before without scales", but it's pretty hard to gain 22 pounds in 3 weeks.  The most I knew of anybody losing or gaining weight in wrestling was our heavyweight gaining 5 pounds overnight after "not eating"... that was a lie, and a loss of 6 pounds.

This is a reason why focusing solely on the scale is misguided and stupid.  You take a show like the Biggest Loser for example.  You get very fat people who eat like crap who weigh themselves after eating and drinking a bunch and after a lifetime of eating crap food.  You have them finally exercise and eat a healthy diet and many drop like 15lb-20lbs in a week. So water retention/salt will affect how much you weigh. Note that someone around Bushies weight will naturally fluctuating around 5lbs just on what time of day he weighs himself.   The body is mostly made up of water so you everyone can fluctuate. Soccer players and baseball catchers can drop like 10lbs during a game just by sweating.  Some MMA fighters can swing like 20lbs back and forth over course of a day or two.

Now with Bushie it is a classic example of a yo-yo dieter. He didnt really make a serious commitment to exercise and probably lost like 5 or maybe 10 lbs of real weight/fat with the rest being water weight.  When you start eating like crap again and are sedentary,  all of that weight comes back on real quick.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 15, 2012, 07:04:50 PM
Inks, it was all true up through July.  When we got into August, I was taking care of my mother who was in the hospital for 9 days.  I didn't have any scales from September 1-October 6.  I'll admit I was lying in August and September, mainly because I didn't think my weight should have had anything to do with mod review on an internet forum.  Yes, I've made empty promises, but overall in the past 11 months, I am down 20 pounds from my height of 285.0.  I am down to 265 right now, which is still up 8 pounds from earlier this summer.  I need to get back on it and I'm trying.  Although, I didn't do very well this evening as I was late getting home from work and I was extremely tired so I decided to stop and get a pizza.  That's my problem, I get tired and I let the slightest amount of tiredness stop me from cooking and get a fast food meal, whether burgers or pizza.  i use the excuse of "oh, I can get back on the diet tomorrow."  Well, how many tomorrows?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 15, 2012, 07:12:24 PM

This is the internet Inks.  Lying this much is standard practice.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on October 15, 2012, 07:25:47 PM
Your lying is repulsive, Bushie


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: King on October 15, 2012, 07:30:19 PM
Don't you guys ever visit the polling boards? Never trust numbers with decimal points.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Simfan34 on October 15, 2012, 08:50:41 PM


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Republic on October 15, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
I'll admit I was lying in August and September, mainly because I didn't think my weight should have had anything to do with mod review on an internet forum.

You agreed to Mikado's challenge, genius.  Do you even have a single clue as to why he set it in the first place?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 15, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Inks, it was all true up through July.  When we got into August, I was taking care of my mother who was in the hospital for 9 days.  I didn't have any scales from September 1-October 6.  I'll admit I was lying in August and September, mainly because I didn't think my weight should have had anything to do with mod review on an internet forum.  Yes, I've made empty promises, but overall in the past 11 months, I am down 20 pounds from my height of 285.0.  I am down to 265 right now, which is still up 8 pounds from earlier this summer.  I need to get back on it and I'm trying.  Although, I didn't do very well this evening as I was late getting home from work and I was extremely tired so I decided to stop and get a pizza.  That's my problem, I get tired and I let the slightest amount of tiredness stop me from cooking and get a fast food meal, whether burgers or pizza.  i use the excuse of "oh, I can get back on the diet tomorrow."  Well, how many tomorrows?

The ONLY reason that your weight had something to do with mod review on an Internet forum is because you (at the time) wanted it to.  It reminds me of the Republicans and their whining about defense cuts... if you didn't want it, don't agree to the sequestration!

Do you notice a pattern of lying?  You lie, get caught, and come up with an excuse.  Then you get mad because we push you on it, so you say, "I'm not answering any more questions about _________."  All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.  The only problem is that you don't have a plan.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on October 16, 2012, 02:44:52 AM
I sent you a picture... what did you think?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: AndrewTX on October 16, 2012, 08:57:09 AM

It's very un-Christian.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 16, 2012, 11:44:31 AM
Inks, where is the lie exactly?  It is rather easy to bounce 15lbs in the matter of a few weeks- hell boxers and wrestlers can do this in a day.  Wasn't he in OKC when he was quoting decimal weights?

His last update was 3 weeks prior to the deadline, when he said he was 3 pounds away.  Even that is a weird number go guesstimate.  We'll find out what he fully meant when he said he was "guessing before without scales", but it's pretty hard to gain 22 pounds in 3 weeks.  The most I knew of anybody losing or gaining weight in wrestling was our heavyweight gaining 5 pounds overnight after "not eating"... that was a lie, and a loss of 6 pounds.

This is a reason why focusing solely on the scale is misguided and stupid.  You take a show like the Biggest Loser for example.  You get very fat people who eat like crap who weigh themselves after eating and drinking a bunch and after a lifetime of eating crap food.  You have them finally exercise and eat a healthy diet and many drop like 15lb-20lbs in a week. So water retention/salt will affect how much you weigh. Note that someone around Bushies weight will naturally fluctuating around 5lbs just on what time of day he weighs himself.   The body is mostly made up of water so you everyone can fluctuate. Soccer players and baseball catchers can drop like 10lbs during a game just by sweating.  Some MMA fighters can swing like 20lbs back and forth over course of a day or two.

Again, your numbers for weight lost from sweat are a bit high here.  Most soccer players aren't dropping 10 lbs during a game.  If they're doing that, they're severely dehydrating themselves.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on October 16, 2012, 02:51:50 PM
This story needs a real shot in the arm. A lady. A development at work. Something. Right now it's just a shell of its former self. We are arguing over weight that we all know he will never lose because it's in his upbringing and culture to eat unhealthy things. His parents never made health with their country cooking so he simple does not know how to live a healthy lifestyle. We really can't fault him too much. We are basically asking him to go against everything he has been taught in life.

For example, he was busy so he got a PIZZA for dinner. Hell, I am always busy, I am a law student, but I manage to get healthy food most of the time without cooking a huge meal. Even a grilled chicken sandwich is much better for you than a freaking pizza. But it makes sense to him. If you spent your whole life eating burgers, pot roasts with gravy, country fried steak, golden corral type food, you don't know of anything else. It would be like telling me to change my diet to a diet where I would gain 20 pounds in a month. I really couldn't eat food like that. It wouldn't be possible.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 16, 2012, 06:56:31 PM
Interesting tidbit, despite that pizza last night, I still lost 1.5 lbs from where I was yesterday morning.  I'm not going to take that as a reason to continue eating pizza, because I know if I play with fire, I will eventually get burned.

Changing the subject,

I finally have my Utah Driver's License AND I just registered to vote online this evening!


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on October 16, 2012, 10:51:44 PM
Interesting tidbit, despite that pizza last night, I still lost 1.5 lbs from where I was yesterday morning.  I'm not going to take that as a reason to continue eating pizza, because I know if I play with fire, I will eventually get burned.


Flawless logic there Bushie:
Drinks pint of water
gains a lb.
must be bad for your diet....


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on October 16, 2012, 11:05:04 PM
Inks, where is the lie exactly?  It is rather easy to bounce 15lbs in the matter of a few weeks- hell boxers and wrestlers can do this in a day.  Wasn't he in OKC when he was quoting decimal weights?

His last update was 3 weeks prior to the deadline, when he said he was 3 pounds away.  Even that is a weird number go guesstimate.  We'll find out what he fully meant when he said he was "guessing before without scales", but it's pretty hard to gain 22 pounds in 3 weeks.  The most I knew of anybody losing or gaining weight in wrestling was our heavyweight gaining 5 pounds overnight after "not eating"... that was a lie, and a loss of 6 pounds.

This is a reason why focusing solely on the scale is misguided and stupid.  You take a show like the Biggest Loser for example.  You get very fat people who eat like crap who weigh themselves after eating and drinking a bunch and after a lifetime of eating crap food.  You have them finally exercise and eat a healthy diet and many drop like 15lb-20lbs in a week. So water retention/salt will affect how much you weigh. Note that someone around Bushies weight will naturally fluctuating around 5lbs just on what time of day he weighs himself.   The body is mostly made up of water so you everyone can fluctuate. Soccer players and baseball catchers can drop like 10lbs during a game just by sweating.  Some MMA fighters can swing like 20lbs back and forth over course of a day or two.

Again, your numbers for weight lost from sweat are a bit high here.  Most soccer players aren't dropping 10 lbs during a game.  If they're doing that, they're severely dehydrating themselves.

I said can lose that much weight., it is quite common to be able to manipulate your weight for an event.  There are detailed articles about how to do such things- o/c it can kill you... Bad crash diets typically work on this trick.  My overall general point is that water retention reflects how much you weigh. Thus, the scale; especially when you are using it as your sole daily metric,is not a great indicator of overall health and fitness.

As an example, People on that dopey show the Biggest loser put a lot of weight back on right away just because they are not properly hydrated.  Back in my drinking days, I could actually lose 5lbs after a bender just because I was so dehydrated- it certainly wasn't for lack of calories.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 16, 2012, 11:18:17 PM
Interesting tidbit, despite that pizza last night, I still lost 1.5 lbs from where I was yesterday morning.  I'm not going to take that as a reason to continue eating pizza, because I know if I play with fire, I will eventually get burned.


Flawless logic there Bushie:
Drinks pint of water
gains a lb.
must be bad for your diet....

I didn't say that.  Look at my post again, I said I can't continue eating pizza and expect to lose weight.  The reverse is true.  Water is the most well-known, and arguably, the most efficient weight loss substance that one can eat or drink, and a little bit of water weight is nothing to get upset about, because it will eventually turn around.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: patrick1 on October 16, 2012, 11:55:40 PM
Jeff, I dont need to read it over again because I read the same post 3, 6 and 9 months ago. You can just replace pizza with burgers or an all you can eat buffet.  You are good at typing about  it, not so much it actual doing it.   Finish something you started.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 17, 2012, 01:23:19 AM
Interesting tidbit, despite that pizza last night, I still lost 1.5 lbs from where I was yesterday morning.  I'm not going to take that as a reason to continue eating pizza, because I know if I play with fire, I will eventually get burned.

So you've bought a scale within the past 2 days?


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: WalterMitty on October 17, 2012, 09:28:30 AM
the sad/unhealthy thing isnt that bushie lies to us...he lies to himself.  he believes all of his fantasies and delusions.

yes something is wrong.  and he needs help.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on October 17, 2012, 10:36:17 AM
BushKE, just get a grilled chicken sandwich if you're busy and need to eat. It's far more healthy than a pizza or a cheeseburger. It won't taste as good right now, but eventually you will adapt to eating healthy and start feeling sick whenever you do gorge your face with food that does nothing but give you heart disease and causes you to gain weight.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 17, 2012, 07:26:46 PM
Interesting tidbit, despite that pizza last night, I still lost 1.5 lbs from where I was yesterday morning.  I'm not going to take that as a reason to continue eating pizza, because I know if I play with fire, I will eventually get burned.

So you've bought a scale within the past 2 days?

I bought a scale on October 6.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on October 17, 2012, 07:34:53 PM
It's not much, but right now, I'm fluctuating between 265-266.  That's down from 272-273 where I topped out about 10 days ago.  I still have a goal of 250 by Christmas.


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 17, 2012, 08:21:54 PM
Perhaps locking this and starting a new Update thread will reenergize things somewhat:

So are multiple smaller threads preferrable to larger ones?  I always just assumed that like more boards, more threads would slow down the forum even if the number of posts are the same.  If this is the case, there are probably some threads on Off Topic/Forum Community that can be locked and restarted.

Yes - go ahead and lock some of these longer threads - should probably keep the post count to 2k or so max per thread.

Thanks,
Dave


Title: Re: As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on October 17, 2012, 08:35:46 PM
Dave has given soft guidelines (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153452.msg3469671#msg3469671) to keep threads to about 2,000 replies, as apparently the more replies a thread has, the more burden it puts on the server, so I'm going to lock this and allow Jeff to start a new thread (since his titles are usually mroe creative than mine).