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Title: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (law'd) Post by: bgwah on November 25, 2011, 04:57:23 AM Quote Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution When updating the statute on the Wiki, the "Notes" section must, in addition to original sponsor, the date of passage, the date of coming into effect of law, and a link to the debate thread of the law in question, also include a note of which Senators amended the bill during it's period of debate. Sponsors: Marokai, Duke Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Napoleon on November 25, 2011, 07:57:28 AM I don't see anything wrong with this.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 25, 2011, 07:59:29 AM When I was AG, I always included sponsor, passage date, signing date, link to debate thread etc.
I think it's kind of legislating an obvious thing, but if you want this resolution, then I call for a rapid passage. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 25, 2011, 05:12:30 PM I would urge the PPT to invoke UC and call a 24 hour objection period on waving the minimum 72 hour debate period. If no one objects, we could have a final vote open by tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: bgwah on November 25, 2011, 05:15:20 PM So lemme get this straight... The AG is supposed to read through every thread and figure out who amended it? How much work would that have been for a longer bill, like the SS one? Isn't AG already the worst job in the world that Presidents have trouble filling?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 25, 2011, 05:19:39 PM Or they could just use my Amendment tracker. :P It includes the names of the bills which they are amending. Wouldn't be that hard to see click all the ones for a particular bill to see what passed or failed. I could do it in 30 minutes on dial up. So I would assume it would take you guys 10 or less.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 25, 2011, 09:23:12 PM So lemme get this straight... The AG is supposed to read through every thread and figure out who amended it? How much work would that have been for a longer bill, like the SS one? Isn't AG already the worst job in the world that Presidents have trouble filling? Most threads aren't terribly long anyway, and AGs already have to look for dates and current versions of bills. As Yankee said, there's also the amendment tracker. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: bgwah on November 25, 2011, 09:28:12 PM Another question---why is this a resolution? Are we just requesting that the AG does this?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Napoleon on November 26, 2011, 03:53:35 AM I guess people could also read the linked thread if they want to see the bill's creation and creators.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 26, 2011, 07:35:26 PM Another question---why is this a resolution? Are we just requesting that the AG does this? I thought it might be more appropriate, because we never really codified in statute the normal wikiing procedure anyway, but it could at least provide some sort of general guideline. I guess people could also read the linked thread if they want to see the bill's creation and creators. You're right, we should just get rid of the wiki entirely and make all the pages just links. If they want to read it, they could just click the link! Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Napoleon on November 26, 2011, 08:20:15 PM It's less tedious effort for an interested reader to click a linked thread to learn more about a law. It's more tedious effort to have the AG look up who amended each bill and post it on the Wiki. Still, I don't really care either way. This is one of the least important issues brought up during either of my Senate terms. :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 26, 2011, 08:22:30 PM As a former Attorney General, who literally spent hours cleaning up wiki mess and including all informations, I wholeheartedly support this measure.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 26, 2011, 08:59:35 PM As a former Attorney General, who literally spent hours cleaning up wiki mess and including all informations, I wholeheartedly support this measure. And I, as a three-time former AG, also support this. :P ATTORNEY GENERAL POWER. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Cincinnatus on November 26, 2011, 09:20:07 PM I'm not sure AG Vacancy has the time to fulfill the duties entailed in this law.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 26, 2011, 10:30:30 PM Yes, Cincy, I am quite sure AG Vacancy is too much of an empty suit for this. I doubt whether he has the mental competence to handle it. I mean you would think, he would have atleast shown up at the Justice Dept or a Senate hearing, just once. Wait, DRAG THAT SOB IN HERE AND CHARGE WITH CONTEMPT OF THE SENATE!!! :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (debating) Post by: bgwah on November 29, 2011, 12:46:17 AM Final vote time. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.
nay Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 29, 2011, 01:17:17 AM Aye; this is harmless codifying of wiki procedure with only a small addition.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: CatoMinor on November 29, 2011, 03:14:47 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on November 29, 2011, 03:23:51 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 29, 2011, 06:08:01 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 29, 2011, 12:33:54 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 29, 2011, 12:47:30 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: Napoleon on November 29, 2011, 02:13:23 PM Meh, aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: bgwah on November 29, 2011, 04:18:30 PM This has enough vote to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 29, 2011, 11:47:40 PM Nay ftr
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: bgwah on November 30, 2011, 03:38:54 AM With 7 ayes, 2 nays, and 1 non-voting abstention, this has passed...
I forget, do resolutions need the President's signature? :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Credit Where Credit is Due Resolution (at final vote) Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 30, 2011, 07:51:06 AM With 7 ayes, 2 nays, and 1 non-voting abstention, this has passed... I forget, do resolutions need the President's signature? :P Don't believe so. :P |