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Title: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 29, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
Fun little thing someone showed me.

Link. (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/budget/?def=28000000000&opts=a1%3A2100000000%7Ca2%3A504000000%7Ca3%3A385000000%7Ca4%3A280000000%7Ca5%3A0%7Ca6%3A0%7Ca7%3A0%7Cb1%3A270000000%7Cb2%3A250000000%7Cb3%3A0%7Cb4%3A0%7Cb5%3A0%7Cb6%3A40500000%7Cc1%3A285600000%7Cc2%3A106000000%7Cc3%3A20000000%7Cc4%3A0%7Ce1%3A0%7Ce2%3A22100000%7Ce3%3A71500000%7Ce4%3A0%7Cf1%3A3450000000%7Cf2%3A9400000000%7Cf3%3A4300000000%7Cf4%3A4300000000%7Cf5%3A702000000%7Cf6%3A0%7Cf7%3A1500000000%7Cf8%3A0%7Cf9%3A0%7Cf10%3A412000000)
My proposal. (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/budget/?def=20780000000&opts=a1:903000000|a2:504000000|a3:165550000|a4:0|a5:0|a6:0|a7:93000000|b1:1188000000|b2:1100000000|b3:0|b4:0|b5:1886000000|b6:67500000|c1:2040000000|c2:106000000|c3:50000000|c4:250000000|e1:0|e2:84500000|e3:84500000|e4:0|f1:0|f2:0|f3:4300000000|f4:4300000000|f5:2600000000|f6:1800000000|f7:1500000000|f8:0|f9:0|f10:412000000)


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: greenforest32 on December 29, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
I've always thought it would be an interesting idea to merge the UC/CSU university systems and allow community colleges to offer 4-year degrees.

Also no option to revise the state property tax?


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: tpfkaw on December 29, 2011, 11:11:09 AM
http://lat.ms/hAkLH4

That was easy.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 29, 2011, 11:14:20 AM

Cut everything but prison rehabilitation?


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: tpfkaw on December 29, 2011, 11:29:20 AM

Ultimately saves money because it cuts down on recidivism.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 29, 2011, 01:49:32 PM
I've always thought it would be an interesting idea to merge the UC/CSU university systems and allow community colleges to offer 4-year degrees.

Also no option to revise the state property tax?


Merging the two systems would degrade the UCs without adding anything to the CSUs.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on December 29, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
http://lat.ms/upi3Ga


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: LastVoter on January 01, 2012, 07:14:04 AM
http://lat.ms/veNsiC
Nuke the suburbs to hell. Unfortunately I can't nuke them hard enough on this app to balance the budget.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Roemerista on January 01, 2012, 10:53:48 AM
http://lat.ms/rQTsS8
Eliminate most programs but funding for k-12
Tax the hell out of alcohol. And some on gas.

I rather enjoy that every state cut has a listed side effect, but each tax proposal has no listed issues...Say what you will, there are always trade offs...


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Niemeyerite on January 01, 2012, 11:56:37 AM
http://lat.ms/vZAsuJ

Taxes, taxes, taxes!


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: General White on January 01, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
I say we tax the rich hardcore if there making 100million a year and we tax 20% of that it will be easyly payed back and will have much more money left + a balanced budget.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Bacon King on January 01, 2012, 08:30:23 PM
Maintain current education spending levels, make no cuts. Raise gas tax by $0.50 cents, alcohol tax by $0.30, cigarette tax by $2.50, pass the temporary tax hikes, the rate hike for high earners, the vehicle license fee, and repeal that business tax break.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on January 01, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
This was tough. I wanted it to be as heavy as I could be on the spending cuts while mostly avoiding cuts to education and to avoid raising the tax burden in the state. Unemployment is still high and we don't need to pressure it to stay up there. That said:

Spending Cuts
  • No MediCal for Recent Imigrants
  • Cut CSU Funding (The CSUs aren't bad if you want a cheap education but they're more analogous to a continuation of high school instead of a college experience. SLO is the best, the rest are FAR behind. UCs are top tier and shouldn't be dragged down to the level of the CSUs)
  • Cut CC Funding. The hike in tuition is manageable even for a kid on minimum wage.
  • Release 40k Prisoners
  • Deport illegals
  • Cut State Payroll by 10%

Revenue Increases:
  • ~ $0.35 Gas Tax
  • $0.30 Alcohol Tax
  • $4.00 Cigarette Tax
  • Vehicle Licence Fee Tax
  • Temp Tax Hikes

http://lat.ms/ryoIY7


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Miles on January 17, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
My proposal. (http://lat.ms/xLs10G)


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on January 17, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
Provide the minimum constitutional amount for K-12.  Make a 10% reduction in payroll.

Raise the gas tax by $0.50/gallon, the liquor tax by $0.20/drink, temporary tax hike, tax hike for high earners, end tax breaks for business, and tax oil.

No hike on cigarette taxes, no speeding cameras, and no taxing granny's social security.

I believe the booze tax affects the population more evenly than a cigarette tax since more people drink and richer people drink too.



Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Ljube on February 01, 2012, 04:37:24 PM
Gas tax is the wrong way to go as it would raise all prices and reduce the money available to consumers. When raising taxes always consider side effects:

Tax the rich = they move offshore (Romney)
Vehicle license fee = fewer cars
Tax hikes = less spending (slower economy)
End business tax break = more businesses close/move to other states
Cigarette tax = fewer smokers/black market (the tax is already too high)
Crude oil tax = just bad (more imported oil)
Speeding cameras = annoying to people
Tax social security income = it isn't high enough (reduced spending)

The only tax worth raising is alcohol tax. It doesn't reduce consumption if it is moderate enough.

Obviously, the way to go is to cut spending and the biggest chunk is K-12 which must be cut by 50%. The rest is unimportant.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 01, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
Obviously, the way to go is to cut spending and the biggest chunk is K-12 which must be cut by 50%. The rest is unimportant.

wtf


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Barnes on February 03, 2012, 04:34:10 PM
Those cuts in education were very painful. (http://lat.ms/yZTz5W)


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Is Totally Not Feeblepizza. on February 03, 2012, 05:34:47 PM
http://lat.ms/A9hIGx


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: muon2 on March 12, 2012, 07:33:50 PM
I'm surprised that public employee pension benefits aren't on the list. In IL (with a worse credit rating than CA) pensions and Medicaid are expected to be the big ticket items on the chopping block.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: RI on March 12, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
How I view libertarians:

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Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 20, 2012, 09:47:22 AM
I didn't like how this just has sliding scales instead of describing specific programs and proposals.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Pingvin on March 20, 2012, 11:30:47 AM
http://lat.ms/eVIIWI
I hate raising taxes, but in this case...
And I won't release the priosners, but, well... you understand what I mean...


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: 7,052,770 on March 25, 2012, 10:44:03 PM
It's pretty easy if you're willing to accept temporary tax hikes and the cig/alcohol taxes, even if you absolutely refuse to cut any education.


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P! on March 30, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
That wasn't too hard.

http://lat.ms/eSWYac


Title: Re: How much can you cut from California's budget?
Post by: morgieb on April 01, 2012, 03:31:51 AM
http://lat.ms/HwGqi1

The key is to raise taxes.