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Founding of the Moderate Party on the condition of the dissolution of the JCP and RPP

The Moderate Party is a right of centre, classically liberal party. We believe that the best state for any person, family or community in the pursuit of happiness is one that allows for individual freedoms to be expressed. We believe that society is progressive and that it changes through the increased interaction with and understanding of others. We support progressive social freedoms. We support the principles of a welfare state to assist those who are vulnerable and wish to better themselves and their families. We are committed to fighting the causes of poverty through lowering tax, not through raising credit. We believe in a progressive taxation system that lifts the poorest out of paying tax altogether. We are supportive of community solutions to local problems. We believe in an internationalist foreign policy and an interventionist policy to protect the rights of people to express themselves. We welcome peoples of all social status, all genders and sexualities, all faiths, beliefs and those who hold no faith or belief but the belief in humanity itself.

dissolution has passed both parties.

Maybe you can use a torch and the color blue as your logo.

See above :)

It looks like Skype :suspicious:

Well it's a yellow circle with an 'M' partly inspired by the Swedish Moderate Party.

As a voter of dissolution, I really hope a number of different parties emerge.  I am a little concerned about the state of affairs right now, but I am happy this party which is in line with my beliefs exists (and hopefully becomes a force in Atlasian politics).  Thus:

x Junkie

I'll give it a try, even though I can't support the foreign policy bit in the platform.

X Cincinnatus

Welcome :) The 'platform' is more a statement of belief. Input is welcome

I am intrigued by your party, but can you tell me what this sentence means?  I am not sure what you mean by 'not through raising credit'. 

It's admittedly not clear. It means that the best way to tackle poverty and to assit low income earners is to remove them from the tax system, rather than tax them but give them money back through tax credits or welfare.

So what is the difference between you and the Liberal Party? 

The Moderates are a continuation of the DA; we are further to the right on economics that the Liberals I would assume.

A name. Join the Liberal Party! :)

From what I can tell, there are those who have personal problems with members of the Liberal Party who are unwilling to man up and put them aside; and so want to join an identical party that does not have the person or persons they dislike.

The Moderates seem to be to the right of the Liberals economically.

I don't reach that conclusion.

Or, the three of us are cautious of joining a party that has grown so large over-night.  I may still join the party, but I'd like to see how the parties play out for a few days.  Of course, campaign donations and gifts (off the record, obviously) might convince me.  

I would make that nifty $500,000 donation, but I think I dropped the briefcase I was carrying it in somewhere in your office. ;)

But, is 13 members large? I don't think so.

I thought you had 15 members. Anyways, I'd welcome dialogue between the Whig-Communitarian Party and the Moderate Party.

I can't speak for the others, but personality is never the only reason for a decision.  Cinci's rights, I hope we don't end up with two large parties.  As I have stated before, and as Bgwah has stated before, the ideal system would be a far left, far right, center right, center left, and maybe a libertarian party.  I see the Liberals as the center left and am hoping this party can be the center right.

Additionally, while the platform of the Liberals appears fairly centered, I feel it is a bit too to the left for me.  I was a former DAer and am alum of the Duke wing of the RPP, so while I am center on many issues, economically I am right.  Quite frankly, the Liberals do not seem to be a good fit for me.  This does and I hope it survives.

I'm afraid that will result in essentially the same old JCP vs RPP but with new names. Center left and left would work together and the center right and right would work together and we are left with the same thing we tried to move on from.

From what I can tell, this is how it shakes out:

Far left: Social Democratic Union (name subject to change)
Center left: Liberal Party
Center right: Moderate Party
Far right: Communitarian Party
Libertarian: Individual Freedom Party
Socialist: WSRP
Regional: United Imperial Front

I dont think so.  Depending on the issue or race, the two center parties might even work together or play an honest broker.  Even if they do work together, at least there are multiple parties and real discussion.  Having everyone join the Liberal Party seems to just create a big tent party, which is what I am trying to avoid.  I want smaller parties with real positions on the issues, not just parties that try to win an election.

I think the POP is the larger Libertarian Party. Don't forget bgwah's Green Party, the ELF!

Where does The Moderate Party stand on abortion and same sex marriage?

I like a lot of your ideas but these two issues are important to me.

I would not at all characterize our party as far-right. I encourage you to take a look at our platform, Winfield.

You quoted me. The name's Fritz.

Depends how you define far-right, I suppose...at any rate, your party is closest to it.

I was encouraging Winfield to take a look at our party, not calling you Winfield! :P

Are we to the right of the Moderate Party? Sure. But while I'd call them centrist, I'd say we're centre-right.

To answer Winfield, we fully support gay rights (I’d be a hypocrite if I personally didn’t) and abortion isn’t something that we would take a stance on; it’s a personal matter (and one of the very few social issues that is) It’s only been recently that it has been politicised again.

As for the Whig-Communitarians, they have emerged from a Pro-Life grouping and have attracted many of the hard right from the RPP; so it stands to reason that it is a right-wing party.

The presidential elections are approaching and both me and Jbrase would be happy about an endorsement from the Moderates. If you do have any questions about our views, we will answer them with pleasure!

Any takers :P

Best to be blunt.

The Moderates are going to stick this one out as there are a lot of undecideds out there and people who are not even aware of the dissolution of the old system. There may be a temptation to join one of the largest parties, for support and for traction but I ask anyone who is a European Liberal, whether you know it or not, to join the Moderates. We have no desire to dominate the political landscape but we aim to compliment it. The right wing in Atlasia is increasingly socially conservative. We cannot be sure that the progressive consensus that has existed in Atlasia for six years will remain if we do not fight for it. Settled issues, such as abortion are being brought to the fore. We can do as our name suggests; we can moderate their plans and those of the Liberals and Labor too. However where we can work to achieve compromise we will.

Stand out from the crowd and stand up for yourselves. Make each and every race competitive and make each and every vote count by allowing Atlasia to have a rainbow of parties. Likewise if you are a socialist or a staunch social democrat, join Labor. Make friends and make enemies because that promises you a fight and a good one at that. If you are a new player trust me, it was alot more fun just a few short years ago :) It can be again.

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Party slogan. Very apt :)

Well, since it is you and me, what do you want to next?

Spend all the money?

Ohh, pretty banner! :)

Excellent idea.  Love the banner, although since the party is just us two, maybe we could incorporate something that is part of us "being ourselves."  Thus, I respectfully ask that a bottle of beer will be added to the banner.

I suppose this is where I belong if I follow my ideology and want to join a party. I guess, since it is February 1, I am an independent now.

Nice!

You would be extremely welcome.

Also I noticed we've been joined by Tmth; thank you and welcome.

Duke, just join us already.

2 more members to reach Major Party!

We do favor gays and like abortion, yes? Because I like both of those things.

I love the gays ;D I can accomodate abortion but really don't give two hoots on the smallprint as I'm British.

ELECTIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR

Nominate yourselves or others now.

I nominate Afleitch for chair.

I'll run for Vice Chair unless someone else has a strong interest.

I support you for Vice Chair!

I second Tmth for Vice-Chair. I'll accept nomination for Chair.

I support both of you for each position.

So, what's happening? 

Is this party already dead?  :P

Not sure it was ever alive. Join the Liberal Party. :P