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Title: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Eraserhead on February 02, 2012, 08:04:13 PM
Some of you might strongly favor a third party candidate or might not have very strong feelings on Obama or Romney or might love or hate both of them but pick the answer that comes closest to your view out of the four available for the sake of this exercise.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on February 02, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
Anti-both but more Anti-Obama


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 02, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
The whole election's going to be more about voting against the other guy, IMO.  Progressives no longer feel we have a true blue, viable candidate to stand by, and Romney's just the 'meh' candidate.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Eraserhead on February 02, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
I'm incredibly Anti-Romney, of course.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 02, 2012, 08:21:36 PM
Meh on Romney, anti-Obama, pro-Congressional GOP.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Oakvale on February 02, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
Pro-Obama, but very, very, very anti-GOP.

e: To clarify, I like Obama, and think he's done a pretty good job. But ultimately it doesn't matter that much. The alternative is unacceptable.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: TJ in Oregon on February 02, 2012, 08:24:31 PM
Meh on the GOP, but very, very, very anti-Obama.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Yelnoc on February 02, 2012, 08:27:08 PM
Meh on Romney, anti-Obama, pro-Congressional GOP.
Why?


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on February 02, 2012, 08:27:26 PM


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Oakvale on February 02, 2012, 08:27:38 PM

^ This amazes me. Even people being enthusiastically pro-Mitt I understand more than that.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: NVGonzalez on February 02, 2012, 08:29:35 PM


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Yank2133 on February 02, 2012, 08:38:42 PM
Anti-Romney.

I like President Obama, but my hatred of Mitt Romney is a big reason why I will vote for him in November.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 02, 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Very, very anti-Obama. 


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on February 02, 2012, 08:51:50 PM
I'm Pro-Romney. I'd like to see what he could do as President. But I'm fine with Obama staying on, since he really hasn't governed as a liberal anyway.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Oakvale on February 02, 2012, 08:52:46 PM

Plus, Obama (preferably deliberately) losing will ensure a Democratic landslide fifty years hence.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 02, 2012, 08:53:17 PM
Pro-Obama, but very, very, very anti-GOP.

e: To clarify, I like Obama, and think he's done a pretty good job. But ultimately it doesn't matter that much. The alternative is unacceptable.

This is pretty much where I am


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 02, 2012, 08:59:55 PM
I like Obama, and think he's done a pretty good job. But ultimately it doesn't matter that much. The alternative is unacceptable.

These are my sentiments. Also I really hate Mitt Romney and want to laugh at him as he concedes.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on February 02, 2012, 09:10:55 PM
Anti-Obama more than Anti-Romney.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on February 02, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
Anti-Romney. I'm not too passionate about Obama even though I admire him as a person because of his background and what he stands for.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 02, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
Anti-Romney.

I like President Obama, but my hatred of Mitt Romney is a big reason why I will vote for him in November.

Pretty much this, ftr.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: greenforest32 on February 02, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Obama: Meh
Romney: LOL


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Vote UKIP! on February 02, 2012, 09:24:46 PM


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 02, 2012, 10:21:14 PM
Anti-reelecting-another-incumbent-who-does-not-deserve-reelection. Mediocrity and disappointment should not be rewarded, right? You are either competent and successful, or you are not. There are no stickers for effort, or talking a good talk, at this level of power.

As Romney put it the other night: Obama was elected to lead, he chose to simply follow the special interests, and now he ought to get out of the way. Obama had his turn. Now it's Romney's turn.

America can do a lot better than this, folks.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 02, 2012, 10:21:24 PM


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 02, 2012, 11:17:37 PM
Politico makes me more anti-Romney.

Just throwing that out there.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 02, 2012, 11:26:03 PM
Politico makes me more anti-Romney.

Just throwing that out there.

Good. A bunch of clueless youngsters ragging on Romney is exactly what we want. Whatever you do, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE tell your parents, grandparents, and aunts/uncles how much you hate Romney...


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: California8429 on February 02, 2012, 11:32:27 PM
Anti-both but moreWAY more Anti-Obama


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 02, 2012, 11:33:40 PM

Attaboy. You'll come around. I know you will. As will the jmfcsts, who will be our prize endorsement sooner or later.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 02, 2012, 11:34:23 PM
Politico makes me more anti-Romney.

Just throwing that out there.

Good. A bunch of clueless youngsters ragging on Romney is exactly what we want. Whatever you do, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE tell your parents, grandparents, and aunts/uncles how much you hate Romney...

Don't worry about it- they don't like him either.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: courts on February 03, 2012, 12:16:51 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 03, 2012, 12:31:49 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

I'm sorry, but I actually LOL'd when I read that...


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Eraserhead on February 03, 2012, 12:47:02 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

Beyond Ron Paul, where is the Republican opposition to any kind of warmongering?


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: tpfkaw on February 03, 2012, 12:50:03 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

Beyond Ron Paul, where is the Republican opposition to any kind of warmongering?

You had Bachmann & Co. opposing Libya, and relatively anti-warmongerish Donald Trump did lead in the polls at one point (admittedly not for that reason).  Still not typical in the GOP, but non-warmongering ideas are much more popular within them than in '08.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: courts on February 03, 2012, 12:53:38 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

Beyond Ron Paul, where is the Republican opposition to any kind of warmongering?

You had Bachmann & Co. opposing Libya, and relatively anti-warmongerish Donald Trump did lead in the polls at one point (admittedly not for that reason).  Still not typical in the GOP, but non-warmongering ideas are much more popular within them than in '08.

That's mostly what I was getting at, but you had at least a few Republican politicians and talk radio hosts claiming to be anti-NDAA or SOPA or whatever. Does anyone see that happening under Romney? I honestly think the best chance (however slim it is) for this country to regain some sanity is for us to hit rock bottom under Obama.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 03, 2012, 12:54:38 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

Beyond Ron Paul, where is the Republican opposition to any kind of warmongering?

You had Bachmann & Co. opposing Libya, and relatively anti-warmongerish Donald Trump did lead in the polls at one point (admittedly not for that reason).  Still not typical in the GOP, but non-warmongering ideas are much more popular within them than in '08.

At it has NOTHING to do with the morality or ethics of war...


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: courts on February 03, 2012, 12:57:18 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

Beyond Ron Paul, where is the Republican opposition to any kind of warmongering?

You had Bachmann & Co. opposing Libya, and relatively anti-warmongerish Donald Trump did lead in the polls at one point (admittedly not for that reason).  Still not typical in the GOP, but non-warmongering ideas are much more popular within them than in '08.

At it has NOTHING to do with the morality or ethics of war...

Did I ever say it wasn't partisan?


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 03, 2012, 12:59:28 AM
Interchangeable. However, Republicans and "conservatives" would be more likely to oppose warmongering and stupid/evil policies under Obama. And the public would be much more likely to blame liberalism or socialism for the country being in the toilet.. I don't think OWS' nonsense (or worse) would have as much of a chance of gaining a serious foothold in public opinion under him. So I guess Obama, if you held a gun to my head. Of course there's a small part of me that would be happy seeing him lose in an landslide to just about anyone.

Beyond Ron Paul, where is the Republican opposition to any kind of warmongering?

You had Bachmann & Co. opposing Libya, and relatively anti-warmongerish Donald Trump did lead in the polls at one point (admittedly not for that reason).  Still not typical in the GOP, but non-warmongering ideas are much more popular within them than in '08.

At it has NOTHING to do with the morality or ethics of war...

Did I ever say it wasn't partisan?

Personally, I don't think I've heard more blatant chest-thumping out of a Presidential candidate since Reagan, than that which spews forth from Romney.

It makes people feel more secure... but by God it costs.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: tpfkaw on February 03, 2012, 01:02:21 AM
Well, Reagan was one of those crazy isolationists, y'know.

[/Democrats 2012]


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 03, 2012, 01:04:03 AM
I honestly think the best chance (however slim it is) for this country to regain some sanity is for us to hit rock bottom under Obama.

That has already happened. Or, I should say, will happen before November.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 03, 2012, 01:05:57 AM
Well, Reagan was one of those crazy isolationists, y'know.

[/Democrats 2012]

Who the hell says that?!


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: tpfkaw on February 03, 2012, 01:09:32 AM
Well, Reagan was one of those crazy isolationists, y'know.

[/Democrats 2012]

Who the hell says that?!

By the standards of Obama (or, actually, any Democratic president since Cleveland except maybe Carter, who's about tied), Reagan pursued a generally peaceful foreign policy.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 03, 2012, 01:12:38 AM
Well, Reagan was one of those crazy isolationists, y'know.

[/Democrats 2012]

Who the hell says that?!

By the standards of Obama (or, actually, any Democratic president since Cleveland except maybe Carter, who's about tied), Reagan pursued a generally peaceful foreign policy.

As in didn't engage in any real wars... sure - but bloating the DoD and *cough* Iran Contra... Reagan did plenty.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: tpfkaw on February 03, 2012, 01:13:59 AM
Well, Reagan was one of those crazy isolationists, y'know.

[/Democrats 2012]

Who the hell says that?!

By the standards of Obama (or, actually, any Democratic president since Cleveland except maybe Carter, who's about tied), Reagan pursued a generally peaceful foreign policy.

As in didn't engage in any real wars... sure - but bloating the DoD and *cough* Iran Contra... Reagan did plenty.

Oh, I don't disagree, but at this point for either party to reduce themselves to merely Reagan levels of "chest-thumping" would be a major improvement.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 03, 2012, 01:15:58 AM
Well, Reagan was one of those crazy isolationists, y'know.

[/Democrats 2012]

Who the hell says that?!

By the standards of Obama (or, actually, any Democratic president since Cleveland except maybe Carter, who's about tied), Reagan pursued a generally peaceful foreign policy.

As in didn't engage in any real wars... sure - but bloating the DoD and *cough* Iran Contra... Reagan did plenty.

Oh, I don't disagree, but at this point for either party to reduce themselves to merely Reagan levels of "chest-thumping" would be a major improvement.

Granted, but only Romney is promising a massive Reaganesque bloat of the DoD... at the same time as cutting taxes, and bringing the Budget into surplus... Jesus... his hair must be magnificent ;)


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: tpfkaw on February 03, 2012, 01:19:25 AM
Well yeah, I'd expect the Mittster to deliver on one of those three; prize for whomever guesses which one.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 03, 2012, 01:52:56 AM
Well yeah, I'd expect the Mittster to deliver on one of those three; prize for whomever guesses which one.

Balancing the budget, and eventually running surpluses to lower the national debt load. Mittster will give the federal government a haircut--hell, a buzzcut--it has never seen before.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Vote UKIP! on February 03, 2012, 02:04:15 AM
Well yeah, I'd expect the Mittster to deliver on one of those three; prize for whomever guesses which one.

Balancing the budget, and eventually running surpluses to lower the national debt load. Mittster will give the federal government a haircut--hell, a buzzcut--it has never seen before.

Will President Romney receive.a.buzzcut in order to show solidarity with the shaven government?


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Pyro on February 03, 2012, 02:13:41 AM
Anti-Obama, very anti-GOP.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2012, 02:45:20 AM
I don't care for Obama, but the alternative is horrifying.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 03, 2012, 02:51:09 AM
I don't care for Obama Bush, but the alternative is horrifying.

Change your avatar to blue, and you're now a 2004 Republican supporter of George W. Bush!

Just say no to re-electing incumbents who do not deserve re-election.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Politico on February 03, 2012, 02:51:58 AM
Well yeah, I'd expect the Mittster to deliver on one of those three; prize for whomever guesses which one.

Balancing the budget, and eventually running surpluses to lower the national debt load. Mittster will give the federal government a haircut--hell, a buzzcut--it has never seen before.

Will President Romney receive.a.buzzcut in order to show solidarity with the shaven government?

That would be very Johnny Unitas of him, but I am not sure the country is ready for a buzzcut president.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on February 03, 2012, 02:56:42 AM
I don't care for Obama Bush, but the alternative is horrifying.

Change your avatar to blue, and you're now a 2004 Republican supporter of George W. Bush!

Just say no to re-electing incumbents who do not deserve re-election.

From the point of view of 2004 Republican supporters of George W. Bush, there probably is quite a lot to be said for having reelected him instead of electing Kerry, in spite of everything. I don't take this view, of course, but I imagine it's true of a lot of people.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Ebowed on February 03, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
Strongly Pro-Obama.  In 2008, I was torn between Pro-Obama and Anti-McCain, so it is refreshing to remove the ambiguity in this regard.  Also, anyone who expects perfection from a President should prepare for a hideously unfulfilling existence.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 03, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Barack Obama is cutting the DoD by some $1 trillion. Mitt Romney wants to build a brand new fleet of battleships for some reason. The choice is pretty clear if you want our military reduced.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: RI on February 03, 2012, 11:42:48 AM
Very anti-Romney, for the primaries and general.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 03, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
Probably Pro-Obama if things continue to improve like they seem to be. You rarely see an anti-non incumbent election so it won't be anti-Romney. It'll be anti or Pro Obama.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: © tweed on February 03, 2012, 11:50:41 AM
1. Anti-Romney
2. Anti-Obama
3. Pro-Obama
4. Pro-Romney


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 03, 2012, 01:39:50 PM
Oh, I don't disagree, but at this point for either party to reduce themselves to merely Reagan levels of "chest-thumping" would be a major improvement.


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: Democratic Hawk on February 03, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
Pro-Obama


Title: Re: What best describes your view of the general election?
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
I don't care for Obama, but the alternative is horrifying.

Sums my position as well.