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Title: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 12:11:16 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/co

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_state/CO_Page_0207.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_county/CO_Page_0207.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

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http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/mn

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_state/MN_Page_0207.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_county/MN_Page_0207.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

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http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/mo

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_state/MO_Page_0207.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_county/MO_Page_0207.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

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Sticky it please ... ;)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
Colorado has only 76 precincts ?

???

MN and MO have a couple thousand precincts and so did most other states.

Are they doing this by county in CO ?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on February 07, 2012, 12:18:18 PM
When are we going to have the first results?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 12:28:52 PM
When are we going to have the first results?

The first state to report will probably be MO after 8pm EST (2am my time, 3am in Athens), because polls close at 8pm EST there.

In MN, the caucus starts at 7pm CST (8pm EST) and will last 1 hour I guess ? So we can expect results after 9pm EST and 3am my time and 4am in Athens.

CO caucuses start at 7pm local time and will also end one hour later (?). So, results can be expected after 10pm EST, 4am here and 5am at your place.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
Does anyone know if CNN International shows anything of this ?

If not, I won't bother waking up for this ...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on February 07, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
Let's hope that Nevada was a fluke and when I wake up in the morning we will have some results.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Free Palestine on February 07, 2012, 02:11:59 PM
TO THE IRC


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 07, 2012, 02:18:57 PM
Will these be on TV like any other primary night? Aka do I need to go buy some beer beforehand?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
Anyone hearing anything about Missouri turnout? I'm curious how many people are actually going to vote there.

Also it looks like Google will be showing results for all three contests!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 02:42:50 PM
Anyone hearing anything about Missouri turnout? I'm curious how many people are actually going to vote there.

Also it looks like Google will be showing results for all three contests!

Very low:

http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/x290294439/Turnout-low-for-Missouri-primary

Poll workers are playing card games, because almost nobody is showing up to vote ...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 07, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
Will these be on TV like any other primary night? Aka do I need to go buy some beer beforehand?

CNN is doing their usual thing.

Anyone hearing anything about Missouri turnout? I'm curious how many people are actually going to vote there.

Also it looks like Google will be showing results for all three contests!

Missouri SoS predicted 23% turnout, only a little below average. Haven't heard anything today.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 02:48:32 PM
Are there other primaries happening today as well, or just the presidential one?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 07, 2012, 02:54:12 PM
Just the Presidential. The other ones are in August I think.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 03:09:37 PM
I'd be surprised if more than 15% vote in MO.

There are 4.2 Mio. voters in MO, so this would mean roughly 630.000 voters

In 2008, there were 1.45 Mio. voters (850K on the Dem side and 600 on the GOP side).

I think GOP turnout will be roughly 350-450K today and the rest belongs to the Democrats (ca. 100-150K).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 07, 2012, 03:19:49 PM
What should one call an election day headlined by caucuses in Colorado and Minnesota?

2008-National-Convention-Host Tuesday?
The-Super-Bowl-XXXIII-That-Never-Was Tuesday?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 07, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
What should one call an election day headlined by caucuses in Colorado and Minnesota?

2008-National-Convention-Host Tuesday?
The-Super-Bowl-XXXIII-That-Never-Was Tuesday?


No-Delegate Tuesday


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 03:58:41 PM
Say, if the turnout is half what it should me in Missouri, shouldn't Ron Paul's support be far higher than it should be?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 07, 2012, 04:02:47 PM
CNN Int'l only has 2hrs scheduled... from 4 hours time.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Oakvale on February 07, 2012, 04:11:51 PM
I know no-one really cares about these caucuses, obviously, but as usual some of us will be in the IRC (http://www.mibbit.com), at #atlasforum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 07, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
I know no-one really cares about these caucuses, obviously, but as usual some of us will be in the IRC (http://www.mibbit.com), at #atlasforum.

Of course we care. It's Rick Santorum Day.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 07, 2012, 04:19:30 PM
All beauty contests, though I hope Romney runs it up in CO while doing OK in MN and MO. The real contests are 3 weeks from today.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 07, 2012, 04:20:16 PM
Btw, here's the current national weather map:

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Apparently Denver got some snow overnight:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19909635


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: redcommander on February 07, 2012, 04:35:15 PM
Btw, here's the current national weather map:

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Apparently Denver got some snow overnight:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19909635


Lower turnout in Missouri might benefit Romney then.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ndcohn on February 07, 2012, 04:42:20 PM
I made some maps at work today, but pretty quickly so I'm sure there will be much to quibble with. Let me know what I have wrong. I think I've given Romney too much in Minnesota, but I acknowledge that in the accompanying post at electionate.com

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Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 07, 2012, 04:50:04 PM
I'm not sure how Santorum really fits farmland, seems a strange combination (he's clearly more of a rust belt socon).  Maybe if they abandon Gingrich en masse, but I am having a hard time visualizing that sort of a swing.

We'll see.  I wouldn't mind Gingrich getting out of the race.  While amusing, his joke/troll act has gone on a few states too long.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 07, 2012, 04:50:28 PM
Btw, here's the current national weather map:

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Apparently Denver got some snow overnight:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19909635


Lower turnout in Missouri might benefit Romney then.

Light rain is not going to drive down turnout for something like this. The people voting are the ones who always vote no matter what.


Title: February 7 Official Results and Commentary Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
Here we go, boys...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 06:16:55 PM
Unfortunately, I'll be at work until 9:00 CT, but I will be following the results on CNN.com and the Forum in between calls.  I will be home a bit before 9:30 and will flip on to Anderson Cooper on CNN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 06:21:13 PM
So when do the results come in? 8pm et?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 06:29:21 PM
So when do the results come in? 8pm et?

Both Colorado and Minnesota caucus like Iowa and both at 7:00 pm local time, (8 pm ET for MN and 9 pm ET for CO).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 07, 2012, 06:42:25 PM
Question for everyone: What's your standard election night dashboard?

For me, it's usually:

- AP results page
- NY Times The Caucus / FiveThirtyEight live-blog
- NY Times county results map
- Twitter (including FiveThirtyEight, Chuck Todd, Dave Weigel, Jonathan Bernstein, and others)
- The Atlas

Any other suggestions?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Bacon King on February 07, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
Question for everyone: What's your standard election night dashboard?

For me, it's usually:

- AP results page
- NY Times The Caucus / FiveThirtyEight live-blog
- NY Times county results map
- Twitter (including FiveThirtyEight, Chuck Todd, Dave Weigel, Jonathan Bernstein, and others)
- The Atlas

Any other suggestions?


Pretty much the same here, but I also have the IRC AtlasChat up in a tab.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
Atlas, Twitter, 538 blog, Google results map


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
I generally have the Forum Results page, CNN.com, and Politico.com.  I also have a separate page up for the rest of the forum in case I want to post elsewhere and don't feel like backing out of the results thread.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Beet on February 07, 2012, 07:03:58 PM
The Atlas, Intrade, one of CNN/NY Times/AP/Politico, and one streaming video site.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
CNN is doing full coverage but is MSNBC covering these? They covered the pointless Nevada race!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 07:14:06 PM
From Italy, Fox News in tv and one site between CNN and Politico.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 07, 2012, 07:15:59 PM
http://www.rentadrone.tv/cnn-live-stream/ - CNN stream
http://www.rentadrone.tv/msnbc-live-rockinroosters/ - MSNBC stream


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: SPQR on February 07, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
Atlas results page,another atlas tab,Google election results page.

For GE there are way more though.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
I'm checking
- atlas
- cnn
- nytimes + 538 blog


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
Atlas results page,another atlas tab,Google election results page.

For GE there are way more though.

Another Italian! What Italian site You will see? Termometro Politico will do a liveblogging, other sites?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: SPQR on February 07, 2012, 07:28:05 PM
Atlas results page,another atlas tab,Google election results page.

For GE there are way more though.

Another Italian! What Italian site You will see? Termometro Politico will do a liveblogging, other sites?
I've been reading Termometro Politico for years ;)
BTW I am going to bed now,but generally I would read Repubblica and check on Twitter any updates from Riotta (the journalist).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 07, 2012, 07:28:17 PM
Those of you watching the news networks, please let us know if they say anything about whether they're doing entrance polls for the caucuses.  It doesn't look like they did an exit poll for Missouri, or there would already be an AP story about it.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:28:58 PM
Today I'll also be in the IRC Chat... finally got it to work


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 07:29:44 PM
Atlas results page,another atlas tab,Google election results page.

For GE there are way more though.

Another Italian! What Italian site You will see? Termometro Politico will do a liveblogging, other sites?
I've been reading Termometro Politico for years ;)
BTW I am going to bed now,but generally I would read Repubblica and check on Twitter any updates from Riotta (the journalist).

;)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Progressive on February 07, 2012, 07:33:06 PM
What EST is each state closing?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 07:34:05 PM
Those of you watching the news networks, please let us know if they say anything about whether they're doing entrance polls for the caucuses.  It doesn't look like they did an exit poll for Missouri, or there would already be an AP story about it.

CNN said they won't have entrance/exit polls for any of the three contests.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
If Romney wins all three states tonight, will he clinch the republican nomination?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 07, 2012, 07:37:04 PM
If Romney wins all three states tonight, will he clinch the republican nomination?

The only thing that could unclinch Romney is Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Bacon King on February 07, 2012, 07:37:24 PM

When are we going to have the first results?

The first state to report will probably be MO after 8pm EST (2am my time, 3am in Athens), because polls close at 8pm EST there.

In MN, the caucus starts at 7pm CST (8pm EST) and will last 1 hour I guess ? So we can expect results after 9pm EST and 3am my time and 4am in Athens.

CO caucuses start at 7pm local time and will also end one hour later (?). So, results can be expected after 10pm EST, 4am here and 5am at your place.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
If Romney wins all three states tonight, will he clinch the republican nomination?

The only thing that could unclinch Romney is Santorum.

Santorum, really? Not Gingrich?

Actually I think the only thing that could unclinch Romney is Romney himself.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:40:44 PM
CNN is counting down from 20 right now. What happens when they get to zero?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
CNN is counting down from 20 right now. What happens when they get to zero?

Polls close in Missouri and caucuses begin in Minnesota.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
Does CNN have a live stream?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Bacon King on February 07, 2012, 07:41:54 PM
CNN is counting down from 20 right now. What happens when they get to zero?

Counting down from twenty minutes?
If so, that's when polls close in MO and the caucuses starts in MN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 07:42:24 PM
It seems silly that the boring NV contest got an entrance poll and yet neither of these caucuses will have one. At least it'll make watching the results come in more exciting though.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 07:43:03 PM
It seems silly that the boring NV contest got an entrance poll and yet neither of these caucuses will. At least it'll make watching the results come in more exciting though.

Yeah, elections without exit polls are much more fun.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: patrick1 on February 07, 2012, 07:43:58 PM
CNN is counting down from 20 right now. What happens when they get to zero?

Thermonuclear War.  Kiss your loved ones goodbye.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 07:44:50 PM
I'll report my precinct as soon as I can. Last year Romney won over 50%, Huckabee and Paul tied around 20% and McCain got around 10% with some 25 ish people for 08. Only four came in 2010. So it should be a decent indication of how the state will go by 08 standards.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:45:03 PM
CNN is counting down from 20 right now. What happens when they get to zero?

Polls close in Missouri and caucuses begin in Minnesota.

I was wondering more what CNN will show after they count down to zero. Will they put up results or just talk some more?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Gustaf on February 07, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
If Romney wins all three states tonight, will he clinch the republican nomination?

The only thing that could unclinch Romney is Santorum.

I hope that is as nasty a double entendre as I think.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 07:47:46 PM
The conversation in the IRC channel doesn't seem to have much to do with elections.... am I in the right place (mibbit[webirc] #atlasforum?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Insula Dei on February 07, 2012, 07:57:46 PM
The conversation in the IRC channel doesn't seem to have much to do with elections.... am I in the right place (mibbit[webirc] #atlasforum?

Probaby yeah. The conversation can get very off-topic.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
From Italy, Fox News in tv and one site between CNN and Politico.

Bret Baier on Fox News has said ten minutes ago "Buongiorno! For friends that are watching from Italy!"
Thank You Bret!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 08:02:32 PM
Okay CNN says we're going to see "Democracy in Action"...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 07, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
From Italy, Fox News in tv and one site between CNN and Politico.

Bret Baier on Fox News has said ten minutes ago "Buongiorno! For friends that are watching from Italy!"
Thank You Bret!

:D


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 07, 2012, 08:05:17 PM
Okay CNN says we're going to see "Democracy in Action"...
Yeah, they're pretty clueless when it comes to politics.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
First time posted in a long time - have to say I've been thrilled lurking and watching you Keystone Phil. :D

Cain supporter here who broke for Santorum after Iowa.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The_Texas_Libertarian on February 07, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
I'd be surprised if more than 15% vote in MO.

There are 4.2 Mio. voters in MO, so this would mean roughly 630.000 voters

In 2008, there were 1.45 Mio. voters (850K on the Dem side and 600 on the GOP side).

I think GOP turnout will be roughly 350-450K today and the rest belongs to the Democrats (ca. 100-150K).

Was Missouri also a non-binding primary back in 2008?  The news about it being a non-binding primary could also decrease turnout somewhat


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
This Ed Show host is awful. But Ezra Klein is about to be on, so that's cool.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: rbt48 on February 07, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
Missouri was WTA and McCain barely edged out Huckaby.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 08:20:24 PM
First results from Missouri are in

Romney is ahead, but not by much

I still haven't figured out the sense of the Missouri primary. It seems as if it is just a glorified / over-dimensional poll.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 07, 2012, 08:20:46 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/mo

1% in from Missouri:

Romney 41%
Santorum 26%
Uncommitted 13%
Paul 8%


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
1 percent in - 500 votes

Romney 37
Santorum 36
Other 10
Paul 9

Ouch - other is beating Paul.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 07, 2012, 08:24:13 PM
Hm, still early to predict MO but Santorum in 2nd place is surprising.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
1 percent in - 500 votes

Romney 37
Santorum 36
Other 10
Paul 9

Ouch - other is beating Paul.
I imagine other would be diehard Gingrichers.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Hm, still early to predict MO but Santorum in 2nd place is surprising.

There are barely any votes in yet...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:25:30 PM
New Madrid Romney 47 Santorum 42

St. Louis Romney 42 Santorum 25

Henry Romney 46 Santorum 21.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
Hm, still early to predict MO but Santorum in 2nd place is surprising.

There are barely any votes in yet...
Yeah, Santorums now at 42% on CNN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 08:26:07 PM
Hm, still early to predict MO but Santorum in 2nd place is surprising.

Not any more, Romney's now in a distant second.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
Quote
Hm, still early to predict MO but Santorum in 2nd place is surprising.

Most of the votes are coming in from St. Louis.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
I didn't even realize Missouri had an "Uncommitted" option on the ballot. Interesting.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 08:33:26 PM
Strong start for Santorum.... do we have an upset in the making?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 08:35:03 PM
The forum is slowwwwwwwwwwww. Just saying.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:36:07 PM
1.5k votes in Santorum up by 200 votes now.

44 Santorum
31 Romney
11 Paul
08 Other


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 08:36:30 PM
Minnesotta (1% in)
Santorum: 49%
Paul: 28%
Romney: 14%
Gingrich: 9%

Go for that 3rd place finish Mitt!



Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 08:37:37 PM
Big Stl county batch of numbers in puts Romney ahead.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 08:38:43 PM
Interestingly google are tracking results for dropped out candidates.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 08:39:06 PM
Whoops Romney is back on top in MO... don't blink it could change again...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:39:31 PM
Not gonna be enough to hold.

MO:

5k in

38 Romney
36 Santorum
10 Uncommitted
09 Paul


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: bloombergforpresident on February 07, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
Watch for St. Charles and suburban KC counties in Missouri for indications of a strong Santorum finish.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: RI on February 07, 2012, 08:41:06 PM
Vote is almost all St. Louis County so far. Wouldn't read too much into it.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reginald on February 07, 2012, 08:44:33 PM
Interestingly google are tracking results for dropped out candidates.

And they're all absurdly high. I wonder if this is because of early voters or if people are treating this primary as the waste of time that it is and just voting for whomever.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 08:46:20 PM
Is the forum unbearably slow for anyone else?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 08:46:20 PM
Romney up in MO by 1 vote.

Iowa part II.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 07, 2012, 08:47:10 PM
No exit polls for MO either?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 08:48:31 PM

Nope.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
Way too early to call it Iowa redux. There - Santorum didn't come out on top until 60 percent in.

Santorum back up by 2 now. 2 percent in.



Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reginald on February 07, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
Google says 1% of Minnesota's in:

Santorum 44%
Paul 25%
Romney 17%
Gingrich 14%


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 08:52:56 PM
MN

800 votes in.

49 Santorum
22 Paul
15 Romney
14 Gingrich


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 08:54:26 PM
MN

800 votes in.

49 Santorum
22 Paul
15 Romney
14 Gingrich
GO NEWT! GET IN THIRD!!!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
Santorum gets 78% in big stone county Minnesota, 22/23 precincts in. That's domination.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 07, 2012, 08:56:04 PM
Congratulations, Phil.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
CNN just started talking to people in a caucus room in Colorado, almost everyone was for Santorum or Paul...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on February 07, 2012, 08:58:11 PM
Holy crap, those Minnesota results are amazing. No wonder the Romney camp have been spinning furiously about these contests today.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: LastVoter on February 07, 2012, 08:59:09 PM
IRC be off the hook, yo!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 07, 2012, 08:59:26 PM
Santorum owning in Chisago County with 60% in....he will win MN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 08:59:48 PM
One hour into Minnesota and Missouri and we only have 1%.  Colorado is about to begin.  I might be able to get home in 85-90 minutes and not miss much. :)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 08:59:48 PM
CNN just started talking to people in a caucus room in Colorado, almost everyone was for Santorum or Paul...
Guys, tonight could be epic.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reginald on February 07, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
Santorum gets 78% in big stone county Minnesota, 22/23 precincts in. That's domination.

Still waiting on that last precinct of course, but as of right now Mitt has one vote in that county. Priceless.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: homelycooking on February 07, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
Am I the only one who is absolutely thrilled that because the MN and MO contests are occuring early enough while Santorum is still in the race, the geographic pattern of Santorum wins will be more or less continuous across the IA state line? :D


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 09:02:29 PM
Seems like Gingrich will not do well tonight. These events are not that important as far as delegates go, but three defeats for Gingrich remind me of baseball


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
Romney really could come in fourth in Minnesota. Astonishing.

And Santorum is brutalizing Romney in Missouri so far.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
Seems like Gingrich will not do well tonight. These events are not that important as far as delegates go, but three defeats for Gingrich remind me of baseball

That would be 5 defeats in a row.  Ouch...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
Santorum breaking 50% in Missouri!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cavalcade on February 07, 2012, 09:05:20 PM
It's starting to look like an open convention again...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 07, 2012, 09:05:38 PM
I'm going to bed (2am local time). Gonna go out on a limb, Rick carries MO and MN and makes a good run at it in Colorado.

In the morning, Mitt'll be back to square one. My reaction will basically be Obama's in my sig.

And someone on CNN just called Bachmann's district "a blue spot in a tradionionally red state". Clearly an atlas fan.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 07, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
Fig Newton Grinch needs to drop out if he doesnt make any of these states.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on February 07, 2012, 09:06:39 PM
WOO MAPLE GROVE!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 07, 2012, 09:06:49 PM
Is the forum unbearably slow for anyone else?
yep.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 09:06:49 PM
Congrats Phil.

I'm calling MO for Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
THIS IS THE HAPPIEST NIGHT OF MY LIFE SINCE SOUTH CAROLINA


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on February 07, 2012, 09:07:15 PM
Google's results seem to have stalled or broken for Missouri. The Secretary of State has a map (http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrmaps/20120207/county_map.asp?party=rep) that isn't as pretty, but has more detail, and is farther along in reporting.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 09:07:23 PM
Fig Newt Grinch needs to drop out if he doesnt make any of these states.

He needs to, but he won't.  He'll stay in through Super Tuesday, and possibly later.  He's got an eye on the South and on Ohio.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cavalcade on February 07, 2012, 09:08:27 PM
Google's results seem to have stalled or broken for Missouri. The Secretary of State has a map (http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrmaps/20120207/county_map.asp?party=rep) that isn't as pretty, but has more detail, and is farther along in reporting.

I think they just fixed it...I have Google up to 8.3% reporting now.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 07, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
Oh my goodness this is turning out to be an awful night for Mittens. Huzzah!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 09:10:30 PM
It would be nice if the results got in a little faster. It would be interesting to see if Santorum can keep his strong lead.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 07, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
lol, 50% in Missouri


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
Oooo counting on CNN. May beat Super Bowl ratings.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Volrath50 on February 07, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
Here's hoping for a surprising outburst of Santorum from Colorado.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 07, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
What the actual f**k is going on here...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:12:47 PM
Paul leads Romney everywhere in Minnesota, and is improving everywhere.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 09:12:56 PM
Romney still can hope for Colorado... on CNN he has a big pile


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
Nice, Santorum's so far winning every county in MN, except for one where he's tying Paul.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 09:13:11 PM
It would be nice if the results got in a little faster. It would be interesting to see if Santorum can keep his strong lead.

Noooo, they can stay this slow until I get home at 9:25 (70 minutes from now).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:14:12 PM
Paul is leading in a county now. This is a great night.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 09:14:38 PM
Something's happening here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY&feature=related


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on February 07, 2012, 09:15:10 PM
Chisago County went for Mittens with 48% in 2008.  With 75% in there now, Santorum has 56%.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Volrath50 on February 07, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
Lol, Santorum is now leading in Colorado, by 1 vote out of about 40.

Would be so awesome if Santorum won all three states.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on February 07, 2012, 09:18:00 PM
I call Minnesota and Missouri for ricky :) :P


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
I call Minnesota and Missouri for ricky :) :P


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
CNN has a few votes in for Colorado.

Santourm has 19 votes, Romney with 18, Paul with 8 and Newt with 6.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reginald on February 07, 2012, 09:20:16 PM
Hennepin's coming in now. Santorum up 43-25 on Romney.

Only four precincts though. :P


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:21:19 PM
Bizarre result from lafayette missouri, Mitt 93%, uncommitted 7%.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 09:21:43 PM
So is Rick going to talk tonight?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
Bizarre result from lafayette missouri, Mitt 93%, uncommitted 7%.
And they changed it.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 09:22:44 PM
Bizarre result from lafayette missouri, Mitt 93%, uncommitted 7%.

Do one of the Romneys live there or something or is that an aberration?

EDIT:  Never mind, I thought it had to be erroneous.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 09:26:20 PM
Way too early to call Missouri guys. Romney is going to make up a lot of ground in St. Louis and suburbs.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 09:26:35 PM
These poor people. You go to a caucuse and CNN is all up in your bizznas.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
CNN loves the low-tech process in Minnesota... did Wolf mean that sarcastically? Quite a contrast to CNN's smart-boards and flashy graphics


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on February 07, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
These poor people. You go to a caucuse and CNN is all up in your bizznas.

I've been to Maple Grove Junior High several times and would have ended up going there if I didn't move out of the school district.  I hope they get up in lots of people's bizznas just in case there's someone I know!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
Romney? Honest? Silly lady.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
Quote
Way too early to call Missouri guys. Romney is going to make up a lot of ground in St. Louis and suburbs.

Santorum's winning in KC. It's over. Sure, Romney's gonna make up some ground in St. Louis - but he's only got a 20 point lead there, and that's not going to be enough to overcome a 25 point lead.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The_Texas_Libertarian on February 07, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
Lol, Santorum is now leading in Colorado, by 1 vote out of about 40.

Would be so awesome if Santorum won all three states.



Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cavalcade on February 07, 2012, 09:33:37 PM
Santorum ahead in Dakota County (30/141 precincts in) and Hennepin (13/425) in MN.  Possibly smaller precincts, but Romney might end up not winning a county there.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: LastVoter on February 07, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMflZKJXmrs
This summarizes KC for Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:34:36 PM
Paul leads in St. Paul lol. And by a lot.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 09:35:06 PM
CO -

300 votes in:

52 Santorum
20 Romney
18 Gingrich
10 Paul



Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 09:37:10 PM
In Minnesota it could actually turn out to be a tight race between Romney and Gingrich...




...for third place :)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
Colorado:
Santorum: 146 votes
Gingrich: 69 votes
Romney: 51 votes
Paul: 27 votes


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Ron Paul is winning Minneapolis AND St. Paul.

This must be BRTD's doing!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 09:41:36 PM
In Minnesota it could actually turn out to be a tight race between Romney and Gingrich...




...for third place :)

Gingrich beating Romney, even for 3rd place will be considered by the Gingrich campaign as a huge victory.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
CNN calls Missouri for Santorum!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 07, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
Saintly Rick wins Missouri!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: retromike22 on February 07, 2012, 09:43:27 PM
Gingrich actually won a county in east Colorado!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 09:43:46 PM
Missouri has been called for Rick Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: bloombergforpresident on February 07, 2012, 09:44:46 PM
My God, I never would of thought Santorum could win MO. Hell, he's going win St. Charles and the KC suburbs


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on February 07, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
Poor mittens:p


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 07, 2012, 09:46:58 PM
A huge night for Santorum?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
Paul is having a fantastic night in Minnesota. It's just being overshadowed Santorum's even better showing. The old bastard can't catch a break.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
Santorum's bleeding a little off to Ron Paul in MN.

Not enough and not enough to stop me from calling it 11 percent in.

MN for Rick Santorum.

Congrats Phil.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 07, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
We might see Santorum spreading all over America! Good for Rick!

Tonight's clear winner: President Obama


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
Romney 3rd in CO? I know it's early, but wow.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: platypeanArchcow on February 07, 2012, 09:50:47 PM
Paul is no longer winning Hennepin and won't be winning St. Paul for long-- probably it's the small liberal precincts that reported first (remember the U of M straddles the border.)

Still a great night for him, of course.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 09:52:06 PM
Paul has lost both urban counties to Santorum, but as long as he keeps above 25%, which should be easy, it's a great night. We can win Maine if we beat Romney in MN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 09:53:47 PM
The only question left in MN: is there a county where Romney will win?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
Romney should drop out.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reaganfan on February 07, 2012, 09:56:13 PM

No, Gingrich should. Then we can unite behind Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 07, 2012, 09:56:59 PM
Gingrich needs to drop out.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cavalcade on February 07, 2012, 09:57:35 PM
Santorum now ahead of Romney in St. Louis County, 48% to 31%.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 09:57:58 PM
St. Louis County flips to Santorum.

City and Boone are the only 2 counties that Mitt is winning tonight. If Santorum can flip St. Louis city, he could sweep MO.

Santorum's winning every county but Winona, Boone and St. Louis City tonight.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: platypeanArchcow on February 07, 2012, 09:58:20 PM
BBC headline: "Romney duels a surging Santorum"

what an image...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: useful idiot on February 07, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
My enthusiasm is being hampered by the fact that Gingrich is going to cost us Colorado. Surely if Mitt wins without breaking 40% there Newt has to realize that he's doing far more harm to the anti-Romney forces than good. The fact that Rick is going to carry two out of three states tonight makes him the only ABR choice left, especially if these victories gain him the kind of media coverage they should. If Newt wants any kind of future in a possible Republican administration he needs to back out. Yeah, I know it's Newt Gingrich, but still...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: HST1948 on February 07, 2012, 09:58:41 PM
Real Loser of the Night: Tim Pawlenty


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 09:59:03 PM
Edit - ninja'd by Calvacade.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 07, 2012, 10:00:30 PM
Why is Mitt doing so poorly in Colorado so far?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
We're back ahead in St. Paul! That would be the icing on the cake.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 10:01:45 PM

Ok, dude. The fact of the matter is Santorum had an impact of this race while the rest of you were doubled over in laughter a month and a half ago, saying he would be out immediately after a disastrous performance in Iowa (or sooner). And only a few had the class to give him credit and admit you were wrong. Instead, it's "LOL HE WILL BE A LOSER SOON ENOUGH!"

Hmm. Gotta apologize to Phil here ... :P ;)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on February 07, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
We Pick Rick!


Santorum 2012!


<33333 Mizzou.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 10:03:27 PM
So far, Mitt has only won 2 counties tonight.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 07, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
What the actual f**k is going on here...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Wow, all 3 states look like a Romney trainwreck ... :)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 07, 2012, 10:08:13 PM
Looking like a Santorum sweep in Missouri.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Nhoj on February 07, 2012, 10:08:28 PM
Wow, all 3 states look like a Romney trainwreck ... :)
Still a bit early to predict CO so far its just some rural hinterlands reporting.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: RI on February 07, 2012, 10:08:39 PM
Every county could go to Santorum in MO.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:09:22 PM
Wow, all 3 states look like a Romney trainwreck ... :)

I think he'll win Colorado in the end. We need some votes from there though.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: homelycooking on February 07, 2012, 10:10:06 PM
So far, Mitt has only won 2 counties tonight.

He hasn't won any. Those two in Missouri have reported only a miniscule number of precincts.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 07, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
So far, Mitt has only won 2 counties tonight.
He's down to 1 right now,  Boone in Missouri with all of 4% of the vote in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 10:11:05 PM
I'd be surprised if more than 15% vote in MO.

There are 4.2 Mio. voters in MO, so this would mean roughly 630.000 voters

In 2008, there were 1.45 Mio. voters (850K on the Dem side and 600 on the GOP side).

I think GOP turnout will be roughly 350-450K today and the rest belongs to the Democrats (ca. 100-150K).

That should also be not too bad of a prediction ...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 10:11:23 PM
Don't look now, but St. Louis City just flipped to Santorum.

Dammit - Ninjas.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: useful idiot on February 07, 2012, 10:15:44 PM
Does Romney have a serious shot at winning St. Louis County (MN)? Otherwise I don't know where he's going to win in Minnesota. I know there are a lot of counties out, but Santorum seems to be winning in areas I'd have pegged to go to Romney


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
And there goes Boone.  As of right now, Mitt Romney is not leading in a single county in any of the contests today.  


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
Looks like Saint Paul truly believes in Saint Paul.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 10:18:31 PM
St. Paul so far is the only one withstanding the Santorum onslaught.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2012, 10:18:53 PM
Congratulations Phil.

And Obama.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
When the hell will we get some more votes from Colorado?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 10:21:14 PM
St. Paul so far is the only one withstanding the Santorum onslaught.

If only they were named Saint Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 10:21:39 PM
Wolf is VERY excited tonight.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 07, 2012, 10:22:42 PM

LOTS OF YELLING.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on February 07, 2012, 10:23:08 PM
When the hell will we get some more votes from Colorado?

CNN has some results in from Douglas and Arapahoe; enough to push Romney into a 2-vote lead.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:23:56 PM
Vote dump in CO finally. Romey and Santorum tied with 11% in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
When the hell will we get some more votes from Colorado?

They just finished caucusing about 20 minutes ago ...

http://results.cologop.org


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 10:24:37 PM
Santorum's victory in Missouri is crazy. Jesus Christ what a landslide.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Thomas D on February 07, 2012, 10:24:54 PM
MSNBC called MN for Rick.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Romney up by 2 votes in Colorado.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 10:27:00 PM
Paul will get a boost in Minnesota since Minneapolis isn't in yet.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 07, 2012, 10:27:39 PM
When the hell will we get some more votes from Colorado?

When Romney's campaign reaches a fair financial settlement with Colorado insiders to dump out all the excess Santorum votes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
Paul will get a boost in Minnesota since Minneapolis isn't in yet.

Did you caucus for him?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 10:29:05 PM
I'm home, folks and I'm glad to see neither Minnesota or Colorado called.  I'm buckling up for a great night. :)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 10:29:30 PM
Paul will get a boost in Minnesota since Minneapolis isn't in yet.

Did you caucus for him?

I couldn't bring myself to attend a GOP caucus. Too dirty feeling.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
MN was already called. :)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
Hmm. No Exit Polls tonight ?

F**k !


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 10:30:40 PM
I'm home, folks and I'm glad to see neither Minnesota or Colorado called.  I'm buckling up for a great night. :)
Minnesota is as good as won.  Romney's being shut out in both MN and MO and not winning as single county between them.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 07, 2012, 10:32:29 PM
CNN finally projects Rick in MN


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 10:32:50 PM
Quote
Paul will get a boost in Minnesota since Minneapolis isn't in yet.

Really? I'm seeing Hennepin with 35-30 on CNN. St. Paul's the only county with a substantial count that he's behind in MN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 10:33:21 PM
Does Romney have a serious shot at winning St. Louis County (MN)? Otherwise I don't know where he's going to win in Minnesota. I know there are a lot of counties out, but Santorum seems to be winning in areas I'd have pegged to go to Romney

With the way he's doing in the rest of the state, no he's not winning St. Louis.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 10:33:30 PM
Vote dump in CO finally. Romey and Santorum tied with 11% in.

Which site?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 10:33:42 PM

THANK YOU BASED GOD


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 10:33:50 PM
Quote
Paul will get a boost in Minnesota since Minneapolis isn't in yet.

Really? I'm seeing Hennepin with 35-30 on CNN. St. Paul's the only county with a substantial count that he's behind in MN.

Based on the MN SOS's site, that's all suburbs.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2012, 10:35:02 PM
Santorum becomes the new anti-Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 07, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
Obama still getting more votes than Romney in MO ...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 10:36:32 PM
Santorum becomes the new anti-Romney.
You mean the new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new Anti-Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:36:41 PM

CNN


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 10:38:09 PM

Oh, that was so few votes, I figured it couldn't be 11%. Well, when you have 76 precincts statewide, turnout is going to be pathetic.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 07, 2012, 10:40:11 PM
CNN Reporter: "What happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas."

;D


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 10:41:58 PM
My precinct

Romney 13
Santorum 8
Gingrich 4

Romney got half the vote in 08. Slightly higher turnout this year. CO GOP is set up to support Romney.  Our captains, chosen by the party beforehand, are now automatically state delegates (the ones who vote for the national delegates).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: HST1948 on February 07, 2012, 10:42:05 PM
CNN Reporter: "What happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas."

;D


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Dereich on February 07, 2012, 10:43:56 PM
Ok, I've mostly been ignoring politics after Florida. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST WEEK?  How could this happen? Did Mitt get caught eating a baby or something?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 10:45:35 PM
HURRAY! Cream him in Colorado RICK!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Simfan34 on February 07, 2012, 10:49:09 PM
I hope that Santorum can win all counties in MN and MO.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 07, 2012, 10:50:34 PM
Santorum is giving a brilliant intro.  He's doing everything possible to show he's a real human being with emotions and setting the contrast to Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Volrath50 on February 07, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
Ok, I've mostly been ignoring politics after Florida. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST WEEK?  How could this happen? Did Mitt get caught eating a baby or something?

Mitt Romney didn't spend $20 million in those states. That's what happened.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 07, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Are insiders saying that Romney will still win Colorado?

Hard to say. He's underperforming in most counties compared to 08.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 10:51:38 PM
I hope that Santorum can win all counties in MN and MO.

He's already tied one county with Paul here. I'm not sure if he can pull ahead in Ramsey, he might fall behind in Winona, I bet he loses Blue Earth (my college county, Paul 2008 county) and based on what's out he might lose Hennepin to Paul too.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 10:51:57 PM
When Mitt Romney doesn't spend millions of dollars on a state, he loses in a landslide.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 10:52:47 PM
Are insiders saying that Romney will still win Colorado?

wait for Jefferson, El Paso, and Pueblo. Romney went below 50% in Douglas and he got 70% in 08 and that's a big county.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on February 07, 2012, 10:53:04 PM
I root for Santorum tonight for political junkie reasons... and then he starts talking and I remember why I hate each and every one of these little weasels with the "R" next to their name.  


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 07, 2012, 10:53:19 PM
When Mitt Romney doesn't spend millions of dollars on a state, he loses in a landslide.

And his opposition hasn't been able to match. Obama will match him dollar for dollar with change in the general. This guy is toast.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 10:53:44 PM
Hopefully, Mittens can pull off a narrow Colorado win.  We've got to have some sense of normalcy, can't we.

Lesson learned from tonight regardless of outcome in Colorado: We're just getting started, folks. :)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 10:54:22 PM
I hope that Santorum can win all counties in MN and MO.

He's already tied one county with Paul here. I'm not sure if he can pull ahead in Ramsey, he might fall behind in Winona, I bet he loses Blue Earth (my college county, Paul 2008 county) and based on what's out he might lose Hennepin to Paul too.
Paul's won Red Lake as well.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on February 07, 2012, 10:54:40 PM
Santorum is a good man and would be a fantastic spokesman for the conservative movement. He deserves these victories.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 10:54:44 PM
Facebook friends from around the state are reporting close Romney-Santorum races or huge Santorum blow outs. I'm getting results from the eastern plains, denver-metro area and Colorado Springs area.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Santorum beat Romney by 30 points in Missouri. Holy crap. Too bad it doesn't count.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 10:55:23 PM
What's the holdup in Colorado?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on February 07, 2012, 10:55:52 PM
He needs to work on his speaking, though.  He had some good phrasing with saying Obama "just doesn't listen", and such, but he had no sense for the cadences that should accompany such repetition.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 10:57:13 PM
His Iowa speech was better. Still better than any speech Romney's ever given though.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: platypeanArchcow on February 07, 2012, 10:57:30 PM
Amusingly, Red Lake County currently has 13 votes spread over 11 precincts.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 10:57:52 PM

I agree.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 10:59:15 PM
I hope that Santorum can win all counties in MN and MO.

He's already tied one county with Paul here. I'm not sure if he can pull ahead in Ramsey, he might fall behind in Winona, I bet he loses Blue Earth (my college county, Paul 2008 county) and based on what's out he might lose Hennepin to Paul too.
Paul's won Red Lake as well.

Paul just took Benton in a landslide. Must've been good GOTV amongst SCSU students.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 07, 2012, 10:59:23 PM
The Iowa speech was phenomenal. The story was perfect. Tonight's speech is ok.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 07, 2012, 11:00:23 PM
He's saying all the right things but he's not being particularly articulate.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 11:00:49 PM
Amusingly, Red Lake County currently has 13 votes spread over 11 precincts.

The final result is 25 votes in 21 precincts. That's almost a third of the total precincts for the entire state of Colorado.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 07, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Rick Santorum wants everyone to know that he's Catholic.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:01:28 PM
He's saying all the right things but he's not being particularly articulate.

He sounds tired to me.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
Well, regardless of whether Santorum wins Colorado, he'll have landslided the collective popular vote in tonight's states.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:02:12 PM
Obama's secular agenda. *Plays spooky music*


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: retromike22 on February 07, 2012, 11:02:47 PM
Paul is projected to take 2nd.... which means Romney has placed 3rd in a primary/caucus for the first time.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 07, 2012, 11:03:06 PM
Amusingly, Red Lake County currently has 13 votes spread over 11 precincts.

The final result is 25 votes in 21 precincts. That's almost a third of the total precincts for the entire state of Colorado.

There are 2917 Precincts in Colorado, per the Colorado GOP's website.  I'm not sure from where the AP got their 76 precincts.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 07, 2012, 11:03:36 PM
He's saying all the right things but he's not being particularly articulate.

He sounds tired to me.

He has visited Colorado, Missouri, and Minnesota more than all of the other candidates combined.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reginald on February 07, 2012, 11:04:08 PM
So I guess if Mitt still wants that decisive and quick victory, he's really going to have to start pouring money into every state. Apparently that's the only thing that's getting him the votes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 07, 2012, 11:04:23 PM
He's saying all the right things but he's not being particularly articulate.

He sounds tired to me.

He has visited Colorado, Missouri, and Minnesota more than all of the other candidates combined.

Yeah. He probably is tired.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:04:59 PM
He's saying all the right things but he's not being particularly articulate.

He sounds tired to me.

He has visited Colorado, Missouri, and Minnesota more than all of the other candidates combined.

That's true.  Is he going to Maine at all in the last few days or is he going back home to rest for a little bit before taking on Arizona, Michigan, and Super Tuesday states?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 11:05:23 PM
Yeah, this is the first time Paul's beat Romney anywhere. Congrats to Ron Paul's folks for becoming the runner up MN. First time I believe.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 11:05:40 PM
Great great great victory for Rick Santorum! Very compliments to Phil and for all the supporters of Rick Santorum.
Hard defeat for Romney! His results in Minnesota (where He had 41% in 2008, and homestate of Pawlenty and Bachmann) is drammatic.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 07, 2012, 11:07:01 PM
On CNN, Santorum's sugar daddy.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:07:11 PM
I admire these candidates, whether I support them or not, for traveling across the country for two straight years or more, spending very little time at home with their families, standing up for what they believe.  If I tried to do that, I would have passed out after the 2nd week.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:11:01 PM
CNN is trying to dismiss Paul as usual but he put in a very solid performance in Minnesota.

And he kicked Romney's ass! Good for him.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 11:11:18 PM
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So I guess if Mitt still wants that decisive and quick victory, he's really going to have to start pouring money into every state. Apparently that's the only thing that's getting him the votes.

The loss in MN hurts his 'Obama' base. With SC to Gingrich, IA, MO and MN to Santorum - we are looking at the following.

MS, AR, LA, TX, MS, GA, AL, NC, VA, TN, KY, WV, OH, WI, ND, SD, KA, OK, NE, IL, IN, OH, PA are gone.

That's a buttload of EVs.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 07, 2012, 11:11:33 PM
Paul: "You guys can take your non-binding democracy and shove it!  We're gonna troll the f**k out of the convention! ON TO MAINE!"

I love this man.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 11:12:59 PM
Also, TX is gone as well. Depending on what comes out of Colorado - we'll have a better idea of MT, WY, ID, and yes, AZ and NM.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:14:47 PM
God dammit, Colorado! Count your votes!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:16:06 PM
Ha, I just got a tweet from CNN saying that a Romney campaign source confirmed he called Santorum to congratulate but did not connect.  He left a message.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 11:17:44 PM
Why Colorado is so slow?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 11:18:03 PM
Paul: "You guys can take your non-binding democracy and shove it!  We're gonna troll the f**k out of the convention! ON TO MAINE!"

I love this man.

He is truly after the hearts of those of us who enjoy chaos.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 07, 2012, 11:19:03 PM
Ha, I just got a tweet from CNN saying that a Romney campaign source confirmed he called Santorum to congratulate but did not connect.  He left a message.

That is the story tonight.  Romney's failure to connect.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Person Man on February 07, 2012, 11:20:08 PM
Ha, I just got a tweet from CNN saying that a Romney campaign source confirmed he called Santorum to congratulate but did not connect.  He left a message.

That is the story tonight.  Romney's failure to connect.

Burrrnnnn...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 07, 2012, 11:20:22 PM
Open primaries/caucuses are a joke. Why would you let Democrats participate in a Republican presidential primary/caucus, especially in a year when the Democratic incumbent is running unopposed? That does not even make sense.

I'm going to bed. When I wake up, Colorado will either be in the Romney column, or we're going to have to annihilate Santorum's campaign too. There is no way to stop Romney, and this is only helping Obama's chances...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:20:48 PM
Another vote dump in CO. Santorum takes a big lead!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:21:10 PM

We just voted. My precinct didn't even vote until 8:15 despite sign in beginning at 6 and the vote supposed to start at 7. A majority of the precincts went "super caucus" this year and did all the candidate speeches together and then either broke up into precincts and continued through payments and voting and selection of delegates or did that in a big group. The point is it isn't the counting that's slow, it is the fact that the results are just getting in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 11:21:29 PM
In Colorado 26% of the vote is in.

Santorum: 42%
Romney: 31%
Gingrich: 15%
Paul: 12%


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2012, 11:22:16 PM

We just voted. My precinct didn't even vote until 8:15 despite sign in beginning at 6 and the vote supposed to start at 7. A majority of the precincts went "super caucus" this year and did all the candidate speeches together and then either broke up into precincts and continued through payments and voting and selection of delegates or did that in a big group. The point is it isn't the counting that's slow, it is the fact that the results are just getting in.

;) Thanks for info...sorry if I'm look a little impatient, but now in Italy is 5.22 am and I start to be tired.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Smid on February 07, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
I'm going to bed. When I wake up, Colorado will either be in the Romney column, or we're going to have to nuke the  out of Santorum's campaign too.

I hate this "not a team player" attitude. Attack ads used during the primaries can only harm the chances of the successful candidate in the general.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:23:06 PM
Santorum winning Adams and the SE and southern I-25. This is a bad night for Romney. Santorum might win all the Hispanic counties and he's competitive in the metro area! Bye bye Romney :D unless boulder come in for you heavy. Santorum focussed his campaigning in the north, Weld and Larimer.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:23:49 PM
Open primaries/caucuses are a joke. Why would you let Democrats participate in a Republican presidential primary/caucus, especially in a year when the Democratic incumbent is running unopposed? That does not even make sense.

I'm going to bed. When I wake up, Colorado will either be in the Romney column, or we're going to have to annihilate Santorum's campaign too. There is no way to stop Romney, and this is only helping Obama's chances...

You mad, bro?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 11:24:00 PM
Wow, I'm calling CO for Santorum. That's amazing.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cavalcade on February 07, 2012, 11:24:37 PM
In Colorado 26% of the vote is in.

Santorum: 42%
Romney: 31%
Gingrich: 15%
Paul: 12%

A lot of that is wannabe Kansas though.

Edit: Spoke too soon, Santorum leads in Adams County.  That should pretty much finish it.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 11:24:59 PM

We just voted. My precinct didn't even vote until 8:15 despite sign in beginning at 6 and the vote supposed to start at 7. A majority of the precincts went "super caucus" this year and did all the candidate speeches together and then either broke up into precincts and continued through payments and voting and selection of delegates or did that in a big group. The point is it isn't the counting that's slow, it is the fact that the results are just getting in.

;) Thanks for info...sorry if I'm look a little impatient, but now in Italy is 5.22 am and I start to be tired.
I can imagine, its 11:30 where I am and I'm already impatient.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 07, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
Open primaries/caucuses are a joke. Why would you let Democrats participate in a Republican presidential primary/caucus, especially in a year when the Democratic incumbent is running unopposed? That does not even make sense.

I'm going to bed. When I wake up, Colorado will either be in the Romney column, or we're going to have to annihilate Santorum's campaign too. There is no way to stop Romney, and this is only helping Obama's chances...

There is no way that Democrats could give Santorum a 30 point win in MO. Mittens has big problems with real Midwest folk, just like Southern folk. And unless he does something soon, he is going to loose this primary and big. I just pray it is to Santorum and not to Newt.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 11:26:32 PM
In Colorado 26% of the vote is in.

Santorum: 42%
Romney: 31%
Gingrich: 15%
Paul: 12%

A lot of that is wannabe Kansas though.

True, Romney could still win decently with solid showings in the Denver area and wannabe Utah.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:26:45 PM

We just voted. My precinct didn't even vote until 8:15 despite sign in beginning at 6 and the vote supposed to start at 7. A majority of the precincts went "super caucus" this year and did all the candidate speeches together and then either broke up into precincts and continued through payments and voting and selection of delegates or did that in a big group. The point is it isn't the counting that's slow, it is the fact that the results are just getting in.

;) Thanks for info...sorry if I'm look a little impatient, but now in Italy is 5.22 am and I start to be tired.
I can imagine, its 11:30 where I am and I'm already impatient.

We've never done it this way before, but it is more efficient so the congressional and state candidates can talk to everyone at once instead of going precinct by precinct fast enough before precincts adjourn.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on February 07, 2012, 11:27:23 PM
Absolutely amazing. Go Santorum!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 07, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
Santorum won Adams with 41% to Romney's 31%. In 2008, Romney carried it with 61% of the vote.

Santorum may just sweep the board tonight.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:27:36 PM
Romney's speech in CO should be pretty funny if they lose there too.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: useful idiot on February 07, 2012, 11:27:47 PM
Open primaries/caucuses are a joke. Why would you let Democrats participate in a Republican presidential primary/caucus, especially in a year when the Democratic incumbent is running unopposed? That does not even make sense.

LOL, says the Romney supporter

Quote
I'm going to bed. When I wake up, Colorado will either be in the Romney column, or we're going to have to annihilate Santorum's campaign too. There is no way to stop Romney, and this is only helping Obama's chances...

Yeah because Romney's horribly negative campaign did him a lot of favors tonight. Gingrich was the most flawed candidate in recent political memory, and it still took Romney millions of dollars and a massive loss in SC to put him away. Santorum won't be so easy...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on February 07, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
Santorum won Adams with 41% to Romney's 31%. In 2008, Romney carried it with 61% of the vote.

Santorum may just sweep the board tonight.
Epic.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 07, 2012, 11:28:16 PM

Gays for Santorum?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on February 07, 2012, 11:29:38 PM
WOO...HOOO!!!!! Go Santorum!!!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 11:30:47 PM
Of course my county is one of the last to come in. Joplin gets destroyed by a tornado, and it still reports faster than Laclede County. Sigh.

All of the Republican caucuses have been pretty slow.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 07, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
Wow, Im surprised Santorum is doing this good for CO.  This will be a long primary from now until July, but it will be interesting.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Miles on February 07, 2012, 11:31:38 PM
Santorum won Adams with 41% to Romney's 31%. In 2008, Romney carried it with 61% of the vote.

Santorum may just sweep the board tonight.

Thats what I'm thinking.

The Adams win really bodes well for Santorum winning CO.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
I think this could be pretty close.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 11:34:10 PM
28 in Santorum holding steady. I don't think he's gonna drop more than about 4 or so, which still puts Romney short.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 07, 2012, 11:35:15 PM
hahahawow


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:35:29 PM
Mitt has his cracked out "I just had my ass handed to me" look on his face. I love it.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:35:57 PM
28 in Santorum holding steady. I don't think he's gonna drop more than about 4 or so, which still puts Romney short.

These numbers are off. 3,000 voters is not 1/4 of the vote. Turnout in Jefferson was larger than 08 so if they report less numbers...idk where ballots are going.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: izixs on February 07, 2012, 11:37:06 PM
From the perspective of a map geek, the results from this primary season are fantastic map-crack.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mopsus on February 07, 2012, 11:40:10 PM
I just noticed that both Nevada and Colorado have Lincoln Counties that are shaped like reverse Utahs. Weird, huh?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 11:41:53 PM
OMG BLUE EARTH COUNTY!

YES! MAVERICKS! MAVERICKS! MAVERICKS! MAVERICKS!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 07, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Mitt is so horrible when he tries to sound like a regular guy.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
Paul is carrying several counties in Minnesota now.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 07, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
Paul is carrying several counties in Minnesota now.

I'm amazed he lost Winona.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:44:13 PM
It sounds like something is stuck to the roof of Romney's mouth.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:44:37 PM
Yuma County GOP Results (Eastern plains): Santorum 115, Gingrich 40, Romney 33, Paul 16, Bachmann 2.

I'm getting reports of huge Santorum wins in El Paso.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:44:48 PM
That was a "You knocked me down, but you did not knock me out" speech by Governor Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: riceowl on February 07, 2012, 11:46:07 PM
what just happened?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:46:25 PM
somebody tried to jump Romney, I guess.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: tpfkaw on February 07, 2012, 11:47:01 PM

He probably didn't...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2012, 11:47:13 PM
Looks like someone tried to attack Romney and was rushed out.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cavalcade on February 07, 2012, 11:47:23 PM
I'm getting reports of huge Santorum wins in El Paso.

Colorado Springs is crawling with evangelicals, right?  Makes sense.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:48:07 PM
El paso County, CO Precinct 158...Paul 5, Gingrich 2, Romney 22, Santorum 33

El Paso...50 votes for Santorum, 13 for Romney, 11 for Gingrich, 4 for Paul.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 07, 2012, 11:48:55 PM
I'm getting reports of huge Santorum wins in El Paso.

Colorado Springs is crawling with evangelicals, right?  Makes sense.
Colorado Springs is the bible thumping belt of Colorado.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Vote UKIP! on February 07, 2012, 11:49:15 PM
Mitt is so horrible when he tries to sound like a regular guy.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 07, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
LOL, the GOP base really does hate Mitt:

Quote
Here's why Mitt Romney is vulnerable to a loss in Colorado tonight. Although indications are that turnout is down in the Denver suburbs, where Mr. Romney runs strongly, the same is not true in outlying areas of the state, where he is losing by a wide margin to Rick Santorum.

Some 16 counties outside of the Denver area had reported all of their results as of 11:40 P.M. In total, there were 1,512 votes in those counties, up slightly from 1,480 in 2008.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: exopolitician on February 07, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
According to twitter, someone tried to Glitterbomb Romney. Fabulous.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 11:52:18 PM
LOL, the GOP base really does hate Mitt:

Quote
Here's why Mitt Romney is vulnerable to a loss in Colorado tonight. Although indications are that turnout is down in the Denver suburbs, where Mr. Romney runs strongly, the same is not true in outlying areas of the state, where he is losing by a wide margin to Rick Santorum.

Some 16 counties outside of the Denver area had reported all of their results as of 11:40 P.M. In total, there were 1,512 votes in those counties, up slightly from 1,480 in 2008.

The Republicans in Bent county certainly want Mitt to get bent.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2012, 11:52:41 PM
Mittens had a chance to shut this down in SC; after that this was going to go to March 7th at least.  He still is in the staying power contest with Gingrich.  Santorum will need money.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 07, 2012, 11:53:05 PM
I'm getting reports of huge Santorum wins in El Paso.

Colorado Springs is crawling with evangelicals, right?  Makes sense.
Colorado Springs is the bible thumping belt of Colorado.

James Dobson's Focus on the Family, a conservative family-oriented Christian organization, is headquartered in Colorado Springs, so it makes sense.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: tpfkaw on February 07, 2012, 11:55:16 PM
Speaking of which, Bushie, when are you going to announce that you've become a Santorum supporter?  The suspense is killing us!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2012, 11:55:59 PM
Oh wow, Romney is in 4th place with 11% in Dolores county, the one county that touches Utah that has reported. Romneyland doesn't seem to go east from Utah.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 07, 2012, 11:56:50 PM
Come on Mitt... I need a win in CO for my prediction!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:57:03 PM
Btw Phil, I like Santorum a lot and have contemplated of switching to his camp, but every time I think of it, I see/get some press release from their student coalition and their president/leader makes me want to punch the Santorum campaign in the face, but mostly the student coalition. As for the more legit part of his campaign, they have him on exactly the right track. They knew to get the he!l out of Nevada and go to Colorado and Minnesota instead, props to common sense.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 07, 2012, 11:57:35 PM
Oh wow, Romney is in 4th place with 11% in Dolores county, the one county that touches Utah that has reported. Romneyland doesn't seem to go east from Utah.

Dolores isn't like that. It is very Hispanic and was the only county Cleve Tidwell (libertarian) carried in the 2010 Senate caucus.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 07, 2012, 11:58:13 PM
43 Santorum
29 Romney

with 32 percent in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: greenforest32 on February 07, 2012, 11:58:30 PM
Quote
Missouri Primary - 99.7% reporting (3124/3134)
Santorum - 138,681 (55.2%)
Romney - 63,709 (25.3%)
Paul - 30,584 (12.2%)

Quote
Minnesota Caucus - 74.4% reporting (3076/4137)
Santorum - 17,592 (44.8%)
Paul - 10,696 (27.2%)
Romney - 6,714 (17.1%)
Gingrich - 4,169 (10.6%)

Quote
Colorado Caucus - 26.3% reporting (20/76)
Santorum - 1,891 (43.9%)
Romney - 1,187 (27.6%)
Gingrich - 666 (15.5%)
Paul - 552 (12.8%)

Beautiful ಥ_ಥ

Bring it home for Santorum Colorado!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 07, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
Btw Phil, I like Santorum a lot and have contemplated of switching to his camp, but every time I think of it, I see/get some press release from their student coalition and their president/leader makes me want to punch the Santorum campaign in the face, but mostly the student coalition. As for the more legit part of his campaign, they have him on exactly the right track. They knew to get the he!l out of Nevada and go to Colorado and Minnesota instead, props to common sense.
Nevada doesn't strike me as a social Conservative hotspot, so I understand he had to tread to CO and MN, and that worked out in his favor.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 07, 2012, 11:58:54 PM
Other than Adams County, none of the CO counties that are in were strongly for Romney in 2008.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 07, 2012, 11:59:44 PM
Oh wow, Romney is in 4th place with 11% in Dolores county, the one county that touches Utah that has reported. Romneyland doesn't seem to go east from Utah.

Romney won Eagle County (Vail) handily.  Seems like the type of upscale county that Romney should win.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 08, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
Btw Phil, I like Santorum a lot and have contemplated of switching to his camp, but every time I think of it, I see/get some press release from their student coalition and their president/leader makes me want to punch the Santorum campaign in the face, but mostly the student coalition. As for the more legit part of his campaign, they have him on exactly the right track. They knew to get the he!l out of Nevada and go to Colorado and Minnesota instead, props to common sense.
Nevada doesn't strike me as a social Conservative hotspot, so I understand he had to tread to CO and MN, and that worked out in his favor.

But Gingrich stayed in and had no chance there from the start.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 08, 2012, 12:01:19 AM
The results from Arapahoe County look odd to me.  With 67% in there are 189 reported votes.  In 2008, there were 8,901 votes.  Did they go with one big meeting site and two small ones, and if so, why?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 08, 2012, 12:01:35 AM
NBC CALLS IT FOR SANTORUM


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 08, 2012, 12:04:58 AM
Damn it I was about to call it for Santorum in Colorado. Goddamn librul NBC. Oh well I gotta go to sleep now.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:05:44 AM
Speaking of which, Bushie, when are you going to announce that you've become a Santorum supporter?  The suspense is killing us!

Not anytime soon, I can tell you that.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 08, 2012, 12:05:53 AM
46 in

Santorum up by 11 still.

Holding steady as she goes.

Predicting:

Santorum 39
Romney 32


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 08, 2012, 12:06:15 AM
False alarm. Turns out NBC did not call it yet.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 08, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
False alarm. Turns out NBC did not call it yet.

Well, I called it Phil so you have nothing to worry about. Congrats.

Santorum wins by about 3-6 points.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Chaddyr23 on February 08, 2012, 12:07:02 AM
Didn't expect a Santorum sweep honestly. Also, I see turnout is way down in CO and MN. Is Romney even envitable anymore?!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 12:14:57 AM
Who are all these idiots voting for Santorum?  Yuck.  At least Paul is a strong 2nd in Minnesota.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: California8429 on February 08, 2012, 12:15:29 AM
The results from Arapahoe County look odd to me.  With 67% in there are 189 reported votes.  In 2008, there were 8,901 votes.  Did they go with one big meeting site and two small ones, and if so, why?

Exactly what I'm not understanding


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
Who are all these idiots voting for Santorum?  Yuck.  At least Paul is a strong 2nd in Minnesota.
Evangelicals


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MaxQue on February 08, 2012, 12:16:13 AM
If Santorum wins Colorado, he will have won more states than Romney.

Strange.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 12:19:50 AM
The results from Arapahoe County look odd to me.  With 67% in there are 189 reported votes.  In 2008, there were 8,901 votes.  Did they go with one big meeting site and two small ones, and if so, why?

Exactly what I'm not understanding

The only organization that has Arapahoe results is CNN.  It's probably the results of one or two precincts where they or another organization stationed reporters.   I doubt it's from one super-site, unless they had one out in the more rural parts of the county.  After all, the county stretches from Denver to about half way to Kansas.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:20:41 AM
Is the turnout in Colorado really this low? What the hell is going on?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 08, 2012, 12:21:26 AM
CNN says Romney wins Denver county by only 353 votes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: retromike22 on February 08, 2012, 12:22:35 AM
Is the turnout in Colorado really this low? What the hell is going on?

They have only Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Paul to choose from.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
CNN says Romney wins Denver county by only 353 votes.
That's quite low for the population of 600k in Denver alone.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: useful idiot on February 08, 2012, 12:23:03 AM
The Right-Wing Media's collective fellatio on Santorum tomorrow is going to be pretty disgusting. Especially since they were all holding a candle for Gingrich until today.

I don't know why I subject myself to talk radio, Ingraham is going to be particularly unbearable tomorrow...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 12:23:17 AM
Is the turnout in Colorado really this low? What the hell is going on?

Only 18% of precincts are in.  And the most populated parts of the state haven't reported yet.  


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: bullmoose88 on February 08, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Santorum wins Larimer County with 80 votes?

What the hell?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 12:23:55 AM
I'm voting for Obama if Santorum wins the nomination.  Can't take a chance of this guy possibly running anything.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: exopolitician on February 08, 2012, 12:25:54 AM
Romney is leading now 37-35.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: bullmoose88 on February 08, 2012, 12:27:51 AM
Romney takes Boulder and Denver Counties...up 333.  It seems like he has one more barrel with Jefferson County...and then has to withstand all those small pop Rick counties.  So Santorum must come from behind again.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:27:51 AM
Is the turnout in Colorado really this low? What the hell is going on?

Only 18% of precincts are in.  And the most populated parts of the state haven't reported yet.  

Most counties that have reported still seem to be way, way down from 2008 though.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 12:28:06 AM
I'm voting for Obama if Santorum wins the nomination.  Can't take a chance of this guy possibly running anything.
You shouldn't vote at all if you make that decision.  Santorum doesn't have it in the bag completely.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 08, 2012, 12:28:22 AM
Yep - but Denver is 100 percent in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 08, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
Sheesh, turnout... so pathetic


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Miles on February 08, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Santorum won Larimer county, which is usually a good indicator of the state as a whole.

I'd be amazed if he loses CO.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 08, 2012, 12:29:47 AM
Santorum wins Larimer County with 80 votes?

What the hell?

They pulled Larimer, seems like it was a mistake.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 12:30:08 AM

Yes, it's closer now that most of the Denver area is in. Jefferson is the only major Denver area county left, although Boulder has some comparitively large number of votes (how many Republicans are there in Boulder?) and says only 0% reporting.


50% of the precincts are reporting.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: bullmoose88 on February 08, 2012, 12:30:25 AM
Romney wins Arapaho...by 702 votes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:30:30 AM
Romney takes the lead after Denver, but he didn't perform great there.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 08, 2012, 12:31:45 AM
Colorado is maybe a new Iowa?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on February 08, 2012, 12:31:56 AM
I just got home and I look on Politico to see Santorum within two points in Colorado.

Am I dreaming?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: CaDan on February 08, 2012, 12:32:10 AM
Santorum is ahead in El Paso by over 1700 votes.

https://twitter.com/#!/jpmeyerDPost/status/167114094455955456%22


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
Is the vote coming in so slowly because they're throwing Santorum's votes out? That would help explain the horrible turnout too.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 08, 2012, 12:37:10 AM
We're still waiting on Colorado Springs to come in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:37:34 AM
Will Colorado be called pretty soon, do you think? Or will it turn into an Iowa?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 08, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
I now see why the GOP is so concerned with voter fraud... they can't run elections.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 08, 2012, 12:39:18 AM
Ugh looks like I have to change my call. Rick may still win it but it will be within 3 points either way. I hate Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: CaDan on February 08, 2012, 12:39:48 AM
Romney only won Jefferson by 208 votes according to reporters at the Denver Post.

Santorum is up more than 1700 votes in El Paso County, with 193 of 199 precincts.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 12:40:13 AM
CO needs to get their voting crap straightened out, be quick and efficient.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:40:38 AM
Will Colorado be called pretty soon, do you think? Or will it turn into an Iowa?

I doubt it'll turn into another Iowa but it's probably going to be a while before they call it.

Romney leads 39%-35% now.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 08, 2012, 12:40:45 AM
Source?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 12:42:39 AM
Is the vote coming in so slowly because they're throwing Santorum's votes out? That would help explain the horrible turnout too.

A-Bob already explained why the vote is supposedly coming in "so slowly".  People were voting until a few hours ago.  It took Iowa at least 5 hours to report close to everything.  And Minnesota results are still trickling in.  Colorado's reporting is actually fairly fast, compared to Nevada and probably even compared to Iowa.

There is no anti-Santorum conspiracy.  Given what is out, he will probably win this.  El Paso County will put him over the top.  Jefferson County won't be enough to counter it.  Weld and Larimer Counties will also likely go to him.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:43:20 AM
Jefferson and Mesa counties could still be a big boost to Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 08, 2012, 12:43:26 AM
Quote
Ugh looks like I have to change my call. Rick may still win it but it will be within 3 points either way. I hate Romney.

I'm sticking to my call. All they've done is dump every thing Romney's got at Santorum while holding back Santorum counties.

Romney needed to do better in Denver + Boulder to take this. Jefferson is all he's got and after that it's just going to be all Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 12:44:30 AM
Jefferson and Mesa counties could still be a big boost to Romney.

Santorum won Mesa County by 314 votes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:45:18 AM
Jefferson and Mesa counties could still be a big boost to Romney.

Santorum won Mesa County by 315 votes.

Ouch.  Where are you seeing this?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:46:18 AM
59% in now, and Romney's only up by 400 votes... not good for Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 12:46:28 AM

CO GOP site:
http://results.cologop.org/


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Stan on February 08, 2012, 12:46:40 AM
Romney has only 364 votes more than Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 08, 2012, 12:46:46 AM
Inks, where are you seeing these results?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:47:08 AM
The Gingrich-Paul undercard in CO looks very close too.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:47:18 AM
Inks, where are you seeing these results?

CNN


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:48:12 AM
Wolf says a whole bunch of votes coming in within 10-15 minutes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MaxQue on February 08, 2012, 12:48:27 AM
Google has 58% in, Santorum leading by 268.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:49:17 AM
Looks like it's over for Romney...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:49:28 AM
Santorum takes a tiny lead with 64%.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: CaDan on February 08, 2012, 12:49:38 AM
CNN Doesn't have the Mesa County, Jefferson County or El Paso County results that others are reporting.

Jefferson was +208 Romney
El Paso is at least +1700 Santorum
Mesa + 315 Santorum

This should be over.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:50:30 AM
CNN and 538 are saying Mesa isn't in yet...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: RI on February 08, 2012, 12:50:38 AM
Santorum has it. Not enough Romney areas left.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on February 08, 2012, 12:51:05 AM
Santorum has it. Not enough Romney areas left.

Definitely.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:51:16 AM
CO GOP doesn't have Arapahoe though...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 08, 2012, 12:52:02 AM
Romney shot his load in Denver and suburbs and it wasn't enough.

Amazing night for Santorum. Romney may have a bit of a home state effect in Michigan but Santorum's brand of Conservatism is a strong match.

Just when you think this primary is done, something great happens.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 08, 2012, 12:52:39 AM
Looks like February 7th is a day that will live in infamy for the Mittbots.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:53:20 AM
Romney takes the lead back in with 70% in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
Romney wins Jefferson county by only 200 votes... it's over #COcaucus


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Marston on February 08, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
I have a strange feeling that a tsunami of Moneybags ads are coming my way. Ugh.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 12:54:51 AM
Romney is ahead of Santorum in Jefferson county by 8 votes, LOL


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:55:08 AM
Looks like February 7th is a day that will live in infamy for the Mittbots.

It's definitely not a good night for us Mittbots.

Funny, Politico went to bed early and we haven't heard a peep out of Winfield.  I'm a Romney supporter, but I'm not licking my wounds, I'm gearing up for a reset on the campaign over the next three weeks.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 12:56:35 AM
Still waiting for Broomfield county...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 12:56:54 AM
Looks like February 7th is a day that will live in infamy for the Mittbots.

It's definitely not a good night for us Mittbots.

Funny, Politico went to bed early and we haven't heard a peep out of Winfield.  I'm a Romney supporter, but I'm not licking my wounds, I'm gearing up for a reset on the campaign over the next three weeks.

You're not a real Romney supporter though. You won't even let him in your house.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 08, 2012, 12:57:09 AM
People self-identifying as Mittbots is a new idea.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:58:09 AM
Looks like February 7th is a day that will live in infamy for the Mittbots.

It's definitely not a good night for us Mittbots.

Funny, Politico went to bed early and we haven't heard a peep out of Winfield.  I'm a Romney supporter, but I'm not licking my wounds, I'm gearing up for a reset on the campaign over the next three weeks.

You're not a real Romney supporter though. You won't even let him in your house.

I said several times I would let him into my home as the President of the United States, but not as a Mormon.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 12:58:35 AM
People self-identifying as Mittbots is a new idea.

:P


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 12:58:41 AM
I wonder what the actual delegate split is in Minnesota.  I remember in 2008 my caucus had more Huckabee supporters, but Ron Paulers got more delegates.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: exopolitician on February 08, 2012, 12:58:52 AM
I have a strange feeling that a tsunami of Moneybags ads are coming my way. Ugh.

I feel your pain. Santorum will be here tomorrow, bleh.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 08, 2012, 01:00:08 AM
If I'm Mitt Romney, I have to be terrified about Michigan, Arizona and Ohio... watch him burn another 30 million on those states before firing a single shot at Obama.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 01:01:15 AM
Yep, time for Mitt to buy some more elections.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: CatoMinor on February 08, 2012, 01:01:26 AM
Santorum wins CO


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 08, 2012, 01:01:35 AM
John McCain should enter the race so that conservatives have an excuse to vote for Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 08, 2012, 01:01:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwARpaKHx_w


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 08, 2012, 01:01:51 AM
Colorado GOP chair says Santorum wins


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: retromike22 on February 08, 2012, 01:01:56 AM
CO GOP Chair says SANTORUM WINS!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 08, 2012, 01:02:50 AM
YES! YES!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 5280 on February 08, 2012, 01:02:57 AM
John McCain should enter the race so that conservatives have an excuse to vote for Romney.
And that worked back in 2008, the irony


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 01:03:05 AM
CO GOP Chair calls the race for Santorum live on CNN. Pretty cool, dudes.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 01:03:29 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 01:03:53 AM
State GOP and CNN call it for Santorum.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 08, 2012, 01:04:19 AM
Gee - looks like my call back at 28 percent was right. ;)

Said Santorum would win by 7, so see how close I come.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 08, 2012, 01:05:04 AM
It is officially still Rick Santorum Day.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Yank2133 on February 08, 2012, 01:05:18 AM
lol at Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mopsus on February 08, 2012, 01:05:37 AM
Best night of the campaign so far?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on February 08, 2012, 01:06:44 AM
Santorum 40.2%
Romney 34.9%


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 08, 2012, 01:06:53 AM
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S, P H I L


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: muon2 on February 08, 2012, 01:07:07 AM
CO needs to get their voting crap straightened out, be quick and efficient.

I've participated in caucuses. They are not regular elections. Getting a result as soon as we do is actually quite efficient.


Title: BREAKING NEWS Santourum win COLORADO
Post by: technical support on February 08, 2012, 01:07:59 AM
In a three-state sweep, former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum will win the Colorado GOP caucuses, Colorado GOP chair says.



Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Volrath50 on February 08, 2012, 01:08:17 AM
Good god, does even Mitt have the money to buy the remaining states? The only places he's won are ones he's sunk untold millions into.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 01:08:34 AM
I have a strange feeling that a tsunami of Moneybags ads are coming my way. Ugh.

This ad was epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiCqxKLIVDY


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reds4 on February 08, 2012, 01:10:31 AM
Congrats to Rick Santorum and his supporters... huge night for him! I'm a Republican from Ohio who is still undecided as to who I'll vote for in the primary a month from today, but things just got a lot more interesting!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 01:11:20 AM
Wow, I didn't think Santorum was going to have a clean sweep. Romney's front runner status is in serious trouble, especially if Gingrich drops out after his poor performance.

Looks like February 7th is a day that will live in infamy for the Mittbots.

He happened to drop out on February 7th last time.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The Mikado on February 08, 2012, 01:11:35 AM
I'm thrilled at a Romney loss by anyone's hands.  Rick Santorum is an honorary FF for the night in my book.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 01:14:44 AM
Gingrich should edge Paul out in CO if the GOP Party Chair's results are accurate.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 08, 2012, 01:15:44 AM
Good god, does even Mitt have the money to buy the remaining states? The only places he's won are ones he's sunk untold millions into.

Maybe, but it will definitely test his resources. Santorum is a less vulnerable target than Newt, and tonight seemed to show that, unlike Gingrich, he's capable of organizing.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 01:16:28 AM
Gingrich should edge Paul out in CO if the GOP Party Chair's results are accurate.

Still a terrible night for Gingrich.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 08, 2012, 01:17:10 AM
Does anyone have a link to video of Romney and Gingrich's speeches?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
99% of precincts reporting the GOP chair says.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 01:18:34 AM
From the CO GOP website:

Statewide Results
2894 of 2917 Precincts Reporting (99%)

Candidate    Votes    %
Santorum     26,354    40.24%
Romney        22,855    34.90%
Perry                   52    0.08%
Paul                7,708    11.77%
Others                 57    0.09%
Huntsman            46    0.07%
Gingrich           8,390    12.81%
Bachman              27    0.04%
Total             65,489    100%


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 08, 2012, 01:18:49 AM
GOP Chair:

Santorum - 40.24% - 26,300
Romney 34.9% - 22,855
Gingrich - 12.81% - 8,390
Paul - 11.77% - 7,708


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 08, 2012, 01:19:01 AM
Right now, Romney has to be agreeing with Dick Tuck.

"The people have spoken, the bastards." - Dick Tuck, after losing his 1966 election.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 01:20:47 AM
GOP Chair:

Santorum - 40.24% - 26,300
Romney 34.9% - 22,855
Gingrich - 12.81% - 8,390
Paul - 11.77% - 7,708

Wow, not even that close.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 08, 2012, 01:25:28 AM
Oh this is a great night. O praise the One who paid my debt and raised this life up from the dead.

Tomorrow I'm going to be reading Politico's posting history for laughs.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS Santourum win COLORADO
Post by: Volrath50 on February 08, 2012, 01:26:19 AM
Remember that time we thought Romney would win all 50 states? Yeah, things have been weird since then...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reds4 on February 08, 2012, 01:26:27 AM
What was the final turnout in both Minnesota and Colorado compared to 2008? Anyone know?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 08, 2012, 01:27:15 AM
What was the final turnout in both Minnesota and Colorado compared to 2008? Anyone know?

Absolutely dire.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 01:28:07 AM
I've got to hand it to Rick Santorum.  He handed our rear ends to us.  Mitt Romney's last win all of a sudden was 4 states ago, if you count Missouri.

Oh, and Newt Gingrich could say 43 states to go, but he'd be lying.  He has 42 states left since he failed in Virginia.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on February 08, 2012, 01:29:09 AM
Folks, I'm out.  I do have to go to work today, so I'd better get some sleep.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: greenforest32 on February 08, 2012, 01:29:55 AM
I love this primary


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on February 08, 2012, 01:31:24 AM
What was the final turnout in both Minnesota and Colorado compared to 2008? Anyone know?

Absolutely dire.

Yeah, I just looked at the Colorado 2008 Republican contest, and turnout this year is dismal compared to that.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on February 08, 2012, 01:34:29 AM
Hahahaha, this is great !

Now Santorum has enough time to raise money for AZ and MI.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 01:35:56 AM
Hahahaha, this is great !

Now Santorum has enough time to raise money for AZ and MI.

Remember the Maine!

OK, they're kind of irrelevant, having partially voted already.
Oh, Maine is even more screwed up than I thought. See the wiki page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Republican_caucuses,_2012


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 01:37:19 AM
This cluster is actually good for Paul, considering his secret weapon is caucus delegates.   He probably actually won Minnesota if you polled who got delegate positions and who they support.



Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: cinyc on February 08, 2012, 01:38:45 AM
What was the final turnout in both Minnesota and Colorado compared to 2008? Anyone know?

Absolutely dire.

Nonsense.

Colorado's 2012 vote was 94% of the 2008 vote.  Minnesota's 2012 results aren't all in, but they will likely be worse than that, probably somewhere in the mid 80s.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 08, 2012, 01:40:04 AM
What was the final turnout in both Minnesota and Colorado compared to 2008? Anyone know?

Absolutely dire.

Nonsense.

Colorado's 2012 vote was 94% of the 2008 vote.  Minnesota's 2012 results aren't all in, but they will likely be worse than that, probably somewhere in the mid 80s.

In that case there was much worse turnout than I seem to have remembered from 2008. It's still bad, considering what the narrative about the political climate of the country was until recently.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on February 08, 2012, 01:40:41 AM
What was the final turnout in both Minnesota and Colorado compared to 2008? Anyone know?

Absolutely dire.

Nonsense.

Colorado's 2012 vote was 94% of the 2008 vote.  Minnesota's 2012 results aren't all in, but they will likely be worse than that, probably somewhere in the mid 80s.

That's quite bad.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS Santourum win COLORADO
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 08, 2012, 01:44:57 AM
Looking at all the states results just imagine if Newt Gingrich were to drop out santorrum would destroy Romney. Take alot look at  Missouri  for instance where newt wasn't on the ballot just Romney vs santourum

Of course Gingrich being on the ballot in Minnesota didn't stop Romney from being destroyed there too.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: platypeanArchcow on February 08, 2012, 01:58:40 AM
Minnesota being slow getting the last few votes in.  I was going to say that Paul did well in the colorful counties, Blue Earth and Red Lake, but Santorum totally owned Yellow Medicine, not to speak of Brown and Goodhue.  The Silly French Name constituency also went for Santorum largely at above-average margins, although much more so in Talking Lake than in The Sweat, with Thousand Lakes and Reed somewhere in between.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: smoltchanov on February 08, 2012, 02:05:08 AM
Expected in Missoury and Minnesota, but unexpected in Colorado. I underestimated evengelical strength there...

P.S (somewhat offtopic). Personally i am an absolute  opponent of caucus system as undemocratic., unrepresentative (65 thousands votes in 4+ million Colorado, 53 thousands in 5+ million Minnesota????) and, in addition, because caucuses are dominated by extreme left on Democratic side (Obama wouldn't beat Hillary if not for caucuses) and extreme right on Republican (typical Republican voter in Minnesota, Colorado and, especially, Missoury is, of course conservative, but not by so much as typical "religious right caucusgoer") their skew the real feelings of voters in their state grreatly. Primary is another matter and i am reasonably sure that under primary system Romney ("establishment candidate") would beat Santorum in Colorado and would be at least close in Minnesota..


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Reds4 on February 08, 2012, 02:21:18 AM
I think you make a great point. It's a shame that these caucuses play such a large role, because when you look at the % of people who decide the winner it really is pathetic. There should be primaries in every state... enough of this caucus stuff..

I'm not saying this because I don't want Rick Santorum to do well either... I just agree that caucuses don't represent the state as a whole well at all.


Expected in Missoury and Minnesota, but unexpected in Colorado. I underestimated evengelical strength there...

P.S (somewhat offtopic). Personally i am an absolute  opponent of caucus system as undemocratic., unrepresentative (65 thousands votes in 4+ million Colorado, 53 thousands in 5+ million Minnesota????) and, in addition, because caucuses are dominated by extreme left on Democratic side (Obama wouldn't beat Hillary if not for caucuses) and extreme right on Republican (typical Republican voter in Minnesota, Colorado and, especially, Missoury is, of course conservative, but not by so much as typical "religious right caucusgoer") their skew the real feelings of voters in their state grreatly. Primary is another matter and i am reasonably sure that under primary system Romney ("establishment candidate") would beat Santorum in Colorado and would be at least close in Minnesota..


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Miles on February 08, 2012, 03:35:56 AM
This was an unusually bad night for PPP.

The showed a big lead for Santorum in MO, but really underestimated him in MN and had Romney up 10 in Colorado.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: minionofmidas on February 08, 2012, 04:37:14 AM
Oh wow Colorado.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 08, 2012, 06:18:15 AM
I think I saw John King and his board suggesting turnout was 1-2% of 2008 turnout in some CO counties. Looking at the Atlas 2008 results page, those numbers were erroneous.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The_Texas_Libertarian on February 08, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
How embarrassing for Romney


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: The_Texas_Libertarian on February 08, 2012, 06:37:11 AM
Santorum won every county in Missouri!  Even though it is a non-binding primary that is still bad news for Romney


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 08, 2012, 06:46:27 AM
Congrats Phil!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 08, 2012, 06:52:48 AM
Wow...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 08, 2012, 07:20:46 AM
Why was Romney's best county in Missouri Pemiscot?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 08, 2012, 08:03:59 AM
What a great night! Damn I called the Colorado race pretty well at first and then backed off after I saw Douglas county. Jefferson was the biggest surprise for me. It's also a pretty upscale county consisting of Denver suburbs. Why didn't it vote like Douglas? And I guess I didn't think Santorum would get that sort of margin out of Larimer though in hindsight I should have. So what I thought would be a tied race became a commanding lead for Santorum. The rest of the primaries should be great unless moneybags buys all of them.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 08, 2012, 08:06:24 AM
Told you you should have stuck with your prediction :p


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 08, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
Woke up this morning to find that Rick had swept all three (in some style too!)

LOL, Romney. Well done Rick, the more electable candidate (and Phil!)


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 11:36:56 AM
A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: angus on February 08, 2012, 11:37:16 AM
AAAAAAAhahahahaha!  This is awesome!  

Wow!  Santorum won all three!  Okay, you guys probably think I'm a choad for just now learning this, but I was actually busy and didn't watch any news last night, and I had some work to do this morning so I didn't check any on-line news till now.  It's all very exciting.  I guess Keystone Phil must be stoked!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sbane on February 08, 2012, 11:56:35 AM
Told you you should have stuck with your prediction :p

Indeed. Too bad I had to go to sleep or else I would have waited for a couple more counties to come in. Another place that through me off was western Colorado actually, especially Mesa County. Santorum did much, much better there than I expected, although the population is small.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Franzl on February 08, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Haha. Wow.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 08, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Yes.

Good news is that it makes more space/uncertainty for Paul, and if Santorum gets the nomination, more space for Gary Johnson.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Harry Hayfield on February 08, 2012, 02:15:06 PM
I know we had a major moan about the lack of speed in NV at the weekend but even so. It is now 1.13pm CST and according to the Minnesota Secretary of State's own website only 4062 out of 4137 precincts have reported (98.2% of the total). I know that MN is a rural state and I know that it is probably under several feet of snow, but for goodness sakes, what are they using to count the votes? First graders?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Colbert on February 08, 2012, 02:21:37 PM
Minnesota being slow getting the last few votes in.  I was going to say that Paul did well in the colorful counties, Blue Earth and Red Lake, but Santorum totally owned Yellow Medicine, not to speak of Brown and Goodhue.  The Silly French Name constituency also went for Santorum largely at above-average margins, although much more so in Talking Lake than in The Sweat, with Thousand Lakes and Reed somewhere in between.


wowowoww ! those lands belong to us, you didn't pay lousiana :D


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 08, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
5% left to come in in Minnesota. Good thing there's nothing left to decide. I'm glad Paul did so well in the only state he tried in. Now for fk's sake we must win Maine. HIs vote was also spread out very well across MN.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 08, 2012, 02:51:43 PM
A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Mitt Romney's pro-gay? Really?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 08, 2012, 02:55:37 PM
A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Mitt Romney's pro-gay? Really?

Congratulations!  You've just committed a logical fallacy.

Romney isn't pro-gay but he's not particularly anti-gay.  Santorum is particularly anti-gay.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 08, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
Why was Romney's best county in Missouri Pemiscot?

Seriously. This makes no sense.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Ebowed on February 08, 2012, 04:12:56 PM
There are hardly any Republicans in Pemiscot county anyway.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 08, 2012, 04:19:33 PM
Abe Simpson on beauty contest primaries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoWc6WRHKEE


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 08, 2012, 04:31:02 PM
LOL, only two people predicted a Santorum win in Colorado: https://uselectionatlas.org/PRED/PRESIDENT/2012R/pred.php?action=statepred&fips=8


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 08, 2012, 05:13:41 PM
The NY Times has Santorum winning all 37 delegates but CNN has it broken up more proportionally... anyone know what the truth is?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 08, 2012, 06:04:31 PM
The NY Times has Santorum winning all 37 delegates but CNN has it broken up more proportionally... anyone know what the truth is?

The truth is that no delegates were formally bound to vote for any nominee last night.  It's how Colorado and Minnesota get to avoid the 50% penalty for going early.  No delegates at all will selected in Colorado until the district conventions in late March/early April select three delegates each.  If Gingrich has dropped out by then and backs Santorum, its possible for Santorum to get all the delegates then and at the 14 April state convention, tho I would expect Romney to get all the delegates from a couple of the CD's.  Paul and Gingrich are only going to get delegates out of Colorado if their support is still needed.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Yes.

Good news is that it makes more space/uncertainty for Paul, and if Santorum gets the nomination, more space for Gary Johnson.


If Paul drops out at some point, and Santorum gets the nomination - I might vote for Johnson if he can push real numbers (Paul could endorse him?).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 08, 2012, 06:54:34 PM
I know we had a major moan about the lack of speed in NV at the weekend but even so. It is now 1.13pm CST and according to the Minnesota Secretary of State's own website only 4062 out of 4137 precincts have reported (98.2% of the total). I know that MN is a rural state and I know that it is probably under several feet of snow, but for goodness sakes, what are they using to count the votes? First graders?

They are counting the votes in the one-room schoolhouse in the Northwest Angle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Angle


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Sam Spade on February 09, 2012, 12:17:21 AM
Mitt's campaign has to be the most incompetent ever.

Doesn't anyone realize that pushing the message that the race is "over" might cause your supporters to think that the race is actually over and not show up? 

And given that a couple of caucus states are up, where the message to turn out is even more important than normal, isn't this just asking for trouble?

My point is - do Mitt's people think that all those who have been against him since 2007 are just going to simply give up because he pulled some of Giuliani and McCain's voters in FL, SC and NH?  Are they really that arrogant?

This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 09, 2012, 01:20:35 AM
Mitt's campaign has to be the most incompetent ever.

Doesn't anyone realize that pushing the message that the race is "over" might cause your supporters to think that the race is actually over and not show up? 

And given that a couple of caucus states are up, where the message to turn out is even more important than normal, isn't this just asking for trouble?

My point is - do Mitt's people think that all those who have been against him since 2007 are just going to simply give up because he pulled some of Giuliani and McCain's voters in FL, SC and NH?  Are they really that arrogant?

This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

That's actually a really great point.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 09, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
Mitt's campaign has to be the most incompetent ever.

Doesn't anyone realize that pushing the message that the race is "over" might cause your supporters to think that the race is actually over and not show up? 

And given that a couple of caucus states are up, where the message to turn out is even more important than normal, isn't this just asking for trouble?

My point is - do Mitt's people think that all those who have been against him since 2007 are just going to simply give up because he pulled some of Giuliani and McCain's voters in FL, SC and NH?  Are they really that arrogant?

This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

His campaign style reminds me of a certain platitude loving, vague, robotic, Governor of New York, circa 1948....


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 09, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
Mitt's campaign has to be the most incompetent ever.

Doesn't anyone realize that pushing the message that the race is "over" might cause your supporters to think that the race is actually over and not show up? 

And given that a couple of caucus states are up, where the message to turn out is even more important than normal, isn't this just asking for trouble?

My point is - do Mitt's people think that all those who have been against him since 2007 are just going to simply give up because he pulled some of Giuliani and McCain's voters in FL, SC and NH?  Are they really that arrogant?

This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

His campaign style reminds me of a certain platitude loving, vague, robotic, Governor of New York, circa 1948....

?

George Romney didn't run until 1968.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 09, 2012, 01:55:56 AM
Mitt's campaign has to be the most incompetent ever.

Doesn't anyone realize that pushing the message that the race is "over" might cause your supporters to think that the race is actually over and not show up? 

And given that a couple of caucus states are up, where the message to turn out is even more important than normal, isn't this just asking for trouble?

My point is - do Mitt's people think that all those who have been against him since 2007 are just going to simply give up because he pulled some of Giuliani and McCain's voters in FL, SC and NH?  Are they really that arrogant?

This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

His campaign style reminds me of a certain platitude loving, vague, robotic, Governor of New York, circa 1948....

?

George Romney didn't run until 1968.

Thomas Dewey. The parallels between him and Romney are bountiful. Romney seems to have picked up his playbook.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on February 09, 2012, 01:59:34 AM
Ha, I loved the use of "bountiful". It's even better if that wasn't deliberate.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: yourelection on February 09, 2012, 02:18:08 AM
This was an amazing victory for Santorum and threw a major wrench in the gears of the Romney campaign. Not that he won't win, but an annoying setback that tarnishes his image.

Summed up my thoughts about the Tuesday results:
http://www.yourelection.net/2012/02/santorum-wins-caucuses-in-minnesota-and-colorado/


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Torie on February 09, 2012, 10:13:09 AM
I missed the bit where Mittens said the race is over, which is something, that yes, while I may say it, a candidate shouldn't. Which brings to my mind a question. Is Sam more of a hack against Romney, or am I more of a hack for him?  :P


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 09, 2012, 12:56:57 PM
This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

Bingo


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 09, 2012, 04:17:03 PM
This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

All it is going to take to beat Obama is NOT having a history of speaking about man-on-dog relations, colonizing the dark side of the moon, and bringing back the gold standard while allowing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.

Neither sleeping with multiple mistresses nor sleeping with a fetus is going to be a huge winner with the 20% of the electorate who are going to decide whether or not Obama gets thrown out. The Santorum bit is a true tragedy, and I see nothing wrong with it because I cannot say what I would do in that situation. I might very well do the same thing he did. However, I am just reporting what the swing voters are going to think about it. The forecast: Not looking good. Still, Santorum is a huge improvement over the moral degeneracy of Newt Gingrich...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 09, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

All it is going to take to beat Obama is NOT having a history of speaking about man-on-dog relations, colonizing the dark side of the moon, and bringing back the gold standard while allowing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.

Neither sleeping with multiple mistresses nor sleeping with a fetus is going to be a huge winner with the 20% of the electorate who are going to decide whether or not Obama gets thrown out. The Santorum bit is a true tragedy, and I see nothing wrong with it because I cannot say what I would do in that situation. I might very well do the same thing he did. However, I am just reporting what the swing voters are going to think about it. The forecast: Not looking good. Still, Santorum is a huge improvement over the moral degeneracy of Newt Gingrich...

I agree with most of this, except the Ron Paul stuff, which most of the electorate generally agrees with (even though I differ from him on the gold standard, I don't have any problem with fiat currency).

Romney's "strength" is that he's not extreme.  In a general election, I think the recurring point is that Obama is, and there's plenty of supporting material.

I'd much prefer an ideologically pure libertarian, and remain convinced that Paul is the strongest GE candidate.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on February 09, 2012, 04:39:13 PM
This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

Mitt Romney is a terrible candidate for a lot of reasons, and he probably won't win against Barack Obama. But no matter how much his detractors want to shout "ROMNEY CAN'T WIN," the fact doesn't change: The other two losers in the GOP race will get beat much, much worse.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 09, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
This is a serious question I'm asking Mitt's supporters.  Do you think a guy with this incompetent of a campaign, who seemingly miss these rather obvious points, can actually win an election barring it being a situation where anyone can win?

Mitt Romney is a terrible candidate for a lot of reasons, and he probably won't win against Barack Obama. But no matter how much his detractors want to shout "ROMNEY CAN'T WIN," the fact doesn't change: The other two losers in the GOP race will get beat much, much worse.


Kudos. I disagree about him probably not winning against Barack Obama. In 2008? Absolutely. But Obama is toast, especially if what many think is going to happen in Europe happens in September or October.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 09, 2012, 07:47:13 PM
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The other two losers in the GOP race will get beat much, much worse.

So we get bonus points for a close loss?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Oakvale on February 09, 2012, 07:59:01 PM
Romney's "strength" is that he's not extreme.  In a general election, I think the recurring point is that Obama is, and there's plenty of supporting material.


This is a joke, right? Apologies if it is and I've missed it, but there are plenty of people on this sub-forum who post things like this on a regular basis without any trace of irony.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 09, 2012, 07:59:44 PM
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The other two losers in the GOP race will get beat much, much worse.

So we get bonus points for a close loss?

Yeah, it's called winning back the Senate at best or at least holding onto the House. Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 09, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
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The other two losers in the GOP race will get beat much, much worse.

So we get bonus points for a close loss?

Yeah, it's called winning back the Senate at best or at least holding onto the House. Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

I doubt that, and even it did, unless the Democrats suddenly develop an appreciation for original intent, they aren't going to ditch the filibuster, so they won't be able to do much in the next Congress.  60 Democratic Senators is not possible.  And if they did ditch the filibuster and restore responsible government (responsible in the sense that a majority party will no longer be able to blame a minority party for their failures) that will be a long term benefit to the country.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 09, 2012, 10:32:43 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 09, 2012, 11:42:45 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on February 10, 2012, 02:02:42 AM
The Republican candidate that fares the best with independents is Paul. So I guess following Politico's logic he must be the party's standard-bearer if they want to take the senate and retain the house.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Ebowed on February 10, 2012, 09:44:38 AM
All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Spoken like a true suffragette!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on February 10, 2012, 10:28:03 AM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 10, 2012, 12:16:03 PM
Women voters obviously won't care that Mitt wants them to pay hundreds more dollars a year on their birth control to satisfy the archaic views of some old Catholic bishops. No, all those small-brained women care about is Romney's strong jaw and handsome hairline.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 10, 2012, 12:56:16 PM
Romney's "strength" is that he's not extreme.  In a general election, I think the recurring point is that Obama is, and there's plenty of supporting material.


This is a joke, right? Apologies if it is and I've missed it, but there are plenty of people on this sub-forum who post things like this on a regular basis without any trace of irony.
I know us Irish have none of it, but a lot of Americans have been convinced the Obama is extreme. Globalizer might be saying Romney will call Obama extreme, that Americans think Obama is extreme, or that he thinks Obama is extreme.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MaxQue on February 10, 2012, 01:01:07 PM
Romney's "strength" is that he's not extreme.  In a general election, I think the recurring point is that Obama is, and there's plenty of supporting material.


This is a joke, right? Apologies if it is and I've missed it, but there are plenty of people on this sub-forum who post things like this on a regular basis without any trace of irony.
I know us Irish have none of it, but a lot of Americans have been convinced the Obama is extreme. Globalizer might be saying Romney will call Obama extreme, that Americans think Obama is extreme, or that he thinks Obama is extreme.

Except he is not, under sane definitions of extreme.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: argentarius on February 10, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Romney's "strength" is that he's not extreme.  In a general election, I think the recurring point is that Obama is, and there's plenty of supporting material.


This is a joke, right? Apologies if it is and I've missed it, but there are plenty of people on this sub-forum who post things like this on a regular basis without any trace of irony.
I know us Irish have none of it, but a lot of Americans have been convinced the Obama is extreme. Globalizer might be saying Romney will call Obama extreme, that Americans think Obama is extreme, or that he thinks Obama is extreme.

Except he is not, under sane definitions of extreme.
I know, I'm not calling him that.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 10, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
Romney's "strength" is that he's not extreme.  In a general election, I think the recurring point is that Obama is, and there's plenty of supporting material.


This is a joke, right? Apologies if it is and I've missed it, but there are plenty of people on this sub-forum who post things like this on a regular basis without any trace of irony.
I know us Irish have none of it, but a lot of Americans have been convinced the Obama is extreme. Globalizer might be saying Romney will call Obama extreme, that Americans think Obama is extreme, or that he thinks Obama is extreme.

All of the above, to varying degrees.

In recent American political discourse, he isn't extreme in message, but he is extreme in outcomes.  HillaryCare was extreme and was killed.  ObamaCare is extreme and was passed through shenanigans.  Obama has been extreme on enviromental issues, particularly his "green jobs" fetish.

I'm sure he's a moderate by Greenwich Village (or Irish) standards but by American apple pie standards, he's pretty far outside of the norm.  Taking some sort of global perspective isn't really relevant.  By global standards, spousal rape isn't particularly extreme either - it's all based on your frame of reference.  The relevant scope of analysis here is American political discourse.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 10, 2012, 01:54:16 PM
The odd thing is that policy-wise Obama isn't extreme at all but discourse-wise he's painted as extreme because the American political culture has created a false consciousness that tends to be very far to the right of what people actually want when polled honestly on the issues. I think at one point something like a third of all opposition to Obamacare was from the left.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 10, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
The odd thing is that policy-wise Obama isn't extreme at all but discourse-wise he's painted as extreme because the American political culture has created a false consciousness that tends to be very far to the right of what people actually want when polled honestly on the issues. I think at one point something like a third of all opposition to Obamacare was from the left.

IMO, 10% of the population on the left is extreme.  As are about 15% or so on the right.  The rest of us get along with each other just fine.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 10, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
The odd thing is that policy-wise Obama isn't extreme at all but discourse-wise he's painted as extreme because the American political culture has created a false consciousness that tends to be very far to the right of what people actually want when polled honestly on the issues. I think at one point something like a third of all opposition to Obamacare was from the left.

IMO, 10% of the population on the left is extreme.  As are about 15% or so on the right.  The rest of us get along with each other just fine.

Well, yes, but my point was that Obama's policy proposals divorced from how they're spun and rhetoricalized really aren't outside the American mainstream at all.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.

Are you denying that women, in general, are biologically hardwired to prefer tall, handsome men? Let's be objective here...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 10, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.

Are you denying that women, in general, are biologically hardwired to prefer tall, handsome men? Let's be objective here...

I'm certainly denying that.

At most, they're sociologically hardwired to do so.

It should be mentioned that Obama is also a tall, handsome man.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 10, 2012, 04:31:04 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.

Are you denying that women, in general, are biologically hardwired to prefer tall, handsome men? Let's be objective here...

I'm certainly denying that.

At most, they're sociologically hardwired to do so.

It should be mentioned that Obama is also a tall, handsome man.

But... um... you see, Romney's white.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Torie on February 10, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.

Are you denying that women, in general, are biologically hardwired to prefer tall, handsome men? Let's be objective here...

Since you are chatting up hormones in a psephological context,  just why did the diminutive and rather homely Dukakis carry the female vote while losing the male vote?

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Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 10, 2012, 04:42:15 PM
Politico, if Santorum will be such a disaster for the Republicans in November, then please explain why the polls Rassmunsen released today for Florida and yesterday for Ohio have Santorum doing better in a head-to-head against Obama than Romney does?


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on February 10, 2012, 04:45:39 PM
Politico, if Santorum will be such a disaster for the Republicans in November, then please explain why the polls Rassmunsen released today for Florida and yesterday for Ohio have Santorum doing better in a head-to-head against Obama than Romney does?

It's all part of the Operation Backdoor. Don't you see it?????


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 04:45:50 PM
It should be mentioned that Obama is also a tall, handsome man.

They're so ready to move on, you see.

Put another way, they need to "talk" with Obama.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 04:49:50 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.

Are you denying that women, in general, are biologically hardwired to prefer tall, handsome men? Let's be objective here...

Since you are chatting up hormones in a psephological context,  just why did the diminutive and rather homely Dukakis carry the female vote while losing the male vote?

Simple: The alternative was George H.W. Bush. A wimp or a wimp. An old, rather homely guy or a younger, somewhat less homely guy. Age differences, and the eight years of Republican rule, probably eliminated H.W.'s height advantage.

In general, women chose Gore and Kerry because they were taller than Bush, and judged to be slightly more handsome. Same applies to Obama over McCain, but obviously a big advantage for Obama in the looks department.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
So, now it's all about which candidate have bigger penis, Politico?

Good thing that is not the case! Because, you know, I've heard about what happens "once you go black..."


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 10, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
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Do you really want to hand Obama a landslide victory, a Democratic Congress, and a massive so-called "mandate"? That's what happens if Santorum or Gingrich get the nod.

What evidence do you have that Romney has coattails? From where I sit - the conservatives did better in '10 by expressing conservative principles. It would seem to me that Romney would depress turnout in the downballot races.

Independents and Democrats traditionally come out in stronger force for presidential elections compared to midterms. If we turn off independents by nominating Santorum, or especially Gingrich, we're in for huge downballot losses. All signs point towards Romney being the least likely to lose independents, and especially female voters. Females like Mitt's appearance, background, and overall presence. These females are going to decide which way things go this election. We are best off giving them what they want deep down inside: A good-looking, tall guy. Psychologists have looked into this. Romney is the best hope.

Oh, so you're not just a Romney hack - you're also a misogynistic prick. Good to know.

Are you denying that women, in general, are biologically hardwired to prefer tall, handsome men? Let's be objective here...

Since you are chatting up hormones in a psephological context,  just why did the diminutive and rather homely Dukakis carry the female vote while losing the male vote?

Simple: The alternative was George H.W. Bush. A wimp or a wimp. An old, rather homely guy or a younger, somewhat less homely guy.

In general, women chose Gore and Kerry because they were taller than Bush, and judged to be slightly more handsome. Same applies to Obama over McCain.

In flight of this, it's not a shame to just admit Mitt Romney is a tall and hairy hero of your nighttime wet dreams, Politico.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 04:54:07 PM
BTW, to clarify: This is about the 20% of the women who could go either way. Obviously both sides have 40% of women locked up no matter the appearance/height of either side.

For some of you, it is a sad fact of life that looks matter, as does your height. But you cannot deny they make a difference in many situations.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Torie on February 10, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Hey politico, I have a rather personal question for you. I hope you don't mind. Just what percentage of the content of your posts do you actually believe, as opposed to just having fun jiving, hoping that some at least won't get the joke? 


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 10, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Hey politico, I have a rather personal question for you. I hope you don't mind. Just what percentage of the content of your posts do you actually believe, as opposed to just having fun jiving, hoping that some at least won't get the joke? 

He believes in Mitt Romney.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: King on February 10, 2012, 04:58:34 PM
BTW, to clarify: This is about the 20% of the women who could go either way. Obviously both sides have 40% of women locked up no matter the appearance/height of either side.

I always saw it as Women being 50% Democrat, 40% Republican, 10% Swing and Men being 50% Republican, 40% Democrat, 10% Swing.  That makes sense considering the floor for both parties in the recent two decades has been 45%.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 10, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
BTW, to clarify: This is about the 20% of the women who could go either way. Obviously both sides have 40% of women locked up no matter the appearance/height of either side.

For some of you, it is a sad fact of life that looks matter, as does your height. But you cannot deny they make a difference in many situations.

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I'm thinking of Mitt Romney right now...


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
Hey politico, I have a rather personal question for you. I hope you don't mind. Just what percentage of the content of your posts do you actually believe, as opposed to just having fun jiving, hoping that some at least won't get the joke? 

He believes in Mitt Romney.

I believe in an America that believes in America. That is the America that I believe America should believe in.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Politico on February 10, 2012, 05:08:03 PM
BTW, to clarify: This is about the 20% of the women who could go either way. Obviously both sides have 40% of women locked up no matter the appearance/height of either side.

I always saw it as Women being 50% Democrat, 40% Republican, 10% Swing and Men being 50% Republican, 40% Democrat, 10% Swing.  That makes sense considering the floor for both parties in the recent two decades has been 45%.

It's possible, but I like to think that's just how it generally ends up appearing. I suspect that both sides are always going to have about 40% of each gender no matter what. Then there's the potential of either side getting those 20% of each gender who are up for grabs. It just happens that the GOP usually wins the males and the Democrats usually win the females. But I do think it's possible to win both, and perhaps even to a large degree (e.g., a Gingrich/Obama match-up).


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: Torie on February 10, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
Hey politico, I have a rather personal question for you. I hope you don't mind. Just what percentage of the content of your posts do you actually believe, as opposed to just having fun jiving, hoping that some at least won't get the joke? 

He believes in Mitt Romney.

I believe in an America that believes in America. That is the America that I believe America should believe in.

That is very good: 20 words used, only 9 of which are different, with a content level that asymptotically approaches zero. Yes, you might have some potential in politics. You would fit right in!


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on February 10, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
I believe in you, Politico.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 10, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
The odd thing is that policy-wise Obama isn't extreme at all but discourse-wise he's painted as extreme because the American political culture has created a false consciousness that tends to be very far to the right of what people actually want when polled honestly on the issues. I think at one point something like a third of all opposition to Obamacare was from the left.

IMO, 10% of the population on the left is extreme.  As are about 15% or so on the right.  The rest of us get along with each other just fine.

Well, yes, but my point was that Obama's policy proposals divorced from how they're spun and rhetoricalized really aren't outside the American mainstream at all.

I disagree.  His proposals are far outside of the mainstream as I perceive it, but then he compromises the sh** out of them to force them into the mainstream, successfully pissing everyone off.

My view of his record is that he's an unprincipled socialist/progressive, with corporatist tendencies.


Title: Re: The CO, MN & MO Results Thread
Post by: RI on February 10, 2012, 06:21:20 PM
Hey politico, I have a rather personal question for you. I hope you don't mind. Just what percentage of the content of your posts do you actually believe, as opposed to just having fun jiving, hoping that some at least won't get the joke?  

He believes in Mitt Romney.

I believe in an America that believes in America. That is the America that I believe America should believe in.

Believe in America! Not in Romney who believes in America. Not in the America who believes in Romney. Believe in the America that believes in itself. Its is the drill that will pierce the heavens!