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Title: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: futurepres on February 16, 2012, 01:46:17 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-game (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-game)

Find out which candidate you match with the best. (Sorry forgot to put Obama)


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: AndrewTX on February 16, 2012, 01:53:29 PM
No surprise, first place was Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: TJ in Oregon on February 16, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Haha. That was a horrible quiz. I came out supporting Gingrich, with Obama above Santorum. I think the main problem is that it only gives the candidates points if you select the exact answer rather than giving some for similar answers.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: CatoMinor on February 16, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Paul 59%
Huntsman 43%
Obama 40%



Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 16, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
Huntsman/Obama (tied) and then Romney.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 16, 2012, 03:04:21 PM
Paul 65.9
Perry 53.8
Huntsman 51.3

That's about right.  My issue with Perry was that he was an idiot, not generally on the substance(?) of his positions.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Cobbler on February 16, 2012, 03:05:14 PM
I got Huntsman, Obama, and then Romney. Not very surprised.



Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Simfan34 on February 16, 2012, 03:16:23 PM
Jon Huntsman
Barack Obama
Rick Santorum
76.1%
43.6%
41.3%

Exactly what I've been saying.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Yelnoc on February 16, 2012, 03:30:12 PM
Jon Huntsman 60.1% (4/11)
Barack Obama 60.1% (6/11)
Rick Perry 44.6% (2/11)

Gingrich, Romney, and I can only agree that Global Warming exists.  Paul and I can only agree that Social Security is broken.  I have nothing in common with Bachmann or Santorum.  I guess this means I can't vote in the poll?


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 16, 2012, 03:31:19 PM
Barack Obama 44.9%
Jon Huntsman 36.3%
Ron Paul 36.3%

Quite happy with these results.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: angus on February 16, 2012, 03:54:33 PM
Huntsman 58%
Obama 51%
Romney 47%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Gustaf on February 16, 2012, 04:03:53 PM
Obama 65.2%
Huntsman 44.3%
Santorum 39.7%

But I'd say this test sucked.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 16, 2012, 04:17:17 PM
Obama/Huntsman/Paul.

Sounds about right, but some of the issues had bad choices.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: tpfkaw on February 16, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
Paul 9/11, Perry 2/11, Bachmann/Romney/Santorum 1/11.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Hash on February 16, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Obama 78.2
Paul 41.6
Grinch 39.1


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: useful idiot on February 16, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
Huntsman 62%
Obama 55%
Gingrich 49%
Santorum 42%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: afleitch on February 16, 2012, 05:09:38 PM
Obama 78.6%
Huntsman 39.4%
Romney 39.4%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 16, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Mitt Romney
73.4%

Jon Huntsman
53.4%


Michele Bachmann
40.1%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Sasquatch on February 16, 2012, 05:41:01 PM
1. Obama (46.8%)
2. Paul (46.8%)
3. Perry (40.1%)


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Reginald on February 16, 2012, 05:41:37 PM
Obama 48.9% (4/11)
Huntsman 42.7% (2/11)
Perry 38.4% (2/11)

Did Perry's position on Afghanistan really consist of reducing troops and focusing on intelligence gathering? Considering his position on Iraq, I can't see how this is possible (well, this is Rick Perry I'm talking about here, but still), and the quote they use as support for this supposed position isn't exactly absolute.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Democratic Hawk on February 16, 2012, 05:45:55 PM
Obama 79% (7/11:Afghanistan; Energy; Healthcare; Experience; Social Security; Taxes; Gay Marriage); Romney 38.5% (2/11: Medicare; Defense); Gingrich 34.6% (2/11: Medicare; Immigration)

Of the dropouts, Perry 38.4% (3/11: Immigration; Experience; Defense)


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 16, 2012, 05:47:40 PM
(Huntsman)
Obama
Gingrich
Paul/(Bachmann)
Romney/Santorum
(Perry)


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Vosem on February 16, 2012, 05:48:29 PM
Bizarre. For all candidates, I got

1. Jon Huntsman
2. Michele Bachmann
3. Rick Santorum

For only candidates still in, I got

1. Rick Santorum
2. Newt Gingrich
3. Barack Obama

I support Mitt Romney.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 16, 2012, 05:52:33 PM
1. Barack Obama 57.4% - 5/11 (Climate Change, Energy, Healthcare, Immigration & Experience)
2. Jon Hunstman  40.7% - 3/11 (Medicare, Afghanistan and Social Security)
3.... Michelle Bachmann?!?!? 37.1% - 2/11 (Medicare and defense spending)

Still in...
1. Obama
2. Mitt Romney - 37.0%
3. Ron Paul - 31.6%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Eraserhead on February 16, 2012, 06:11:18 PM
1. Obama 61.3%
2. Paul 45%
3. Bachmann 26.5%

It was hard not to pick "none of the above" for almost every answer though.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Simfan34 on February 16, 2012, 06:36:25 PM
A lot of you are FFs.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Simfan34 on February 16, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
But it's to be expected.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/americans-are-ideologically-closest-to--jon-huntsman/2011/12/29/gIQAglTkOP_blog.html

"Americans are ideologically closest to Jon Huntsman"


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Likely Voter on February 16, 2012, 06:43:44 PM
But it's to be expected.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/americans-are-ideologically-closest-to--jon-huntsman/2011/12/29/gIQAglTkOP_blog.html

"Americans are ideologically closest to Jon Huntsman"

Which is why the GOP wanted nothing to do with him of course


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Lambsbread on February 16, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
Paul, Gingrich, Perry.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 16, 2012, 06:54:32 PM
Obama 76%, Paul 35% (then comes Perry at 28%, but only for the "experience" issues which I really don't care about ; all others have 0%).


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: California8429 on February 16, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Gingrich 86.7%
Bachmann 53.4%
Perry 43.4%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Frodo on February 16, 2012, 06:58:49 PM
1. Barack Obama: 73%
2. Mitt Romney: 43.4%
3. Jon Huntsman, Jr.: 41%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: morgieb on February 16, 2012, 07:18:23 PM
Obama 52% (Afghanistan, Defence, Energy, Climate Change)
Gingrich 35% (Experience, Medicare)
Santorum 35% (Experience, Social Security)

Any quiz that has Gingrich and Santorum tied for 2nd needs looking at big time.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 16, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
Jon Huntsman, 61.8%
Newt Gingrich, 46.8%
Mitt Romney, 44.8%

lol. Needs more questions to be accurate.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: billbillerson on February 16, 2012, 08:28:58 PM
huntsman 61
newt 45
mitt 44


disagree with newt, huntsman is correct though.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: RosettaStoned on February 16, 2012, 08:42:48 PM
 1st Place: Ron Paul.

 2nd Place: Jon Huntsman.

 3rd Place: Barack Obama.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: opebo on February 16, 2012, 08:50:42 PM
Obama -    73.4%
Paul -        40.1%
Bachman - 33.5%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: minionofmidas on February 17, 2012, 06:00:05 AM
Obama 49, Paul 31, Perry 27

I had to pick "none of these suicide methods, importance high" on, like, a third of these sick jokes of answer options.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: angus on February 17, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
I had to pick "none of these suicide methods, importance high" on, like, a third of these sick jokes of answer options.

ha.  I picked none of these on at least a third as well, although I didn't change the importance of any of them from the default.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Pingvin on February 17, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Perry 62.7%
Paul 55.2%
Gingrich 47.7%
Romney 40.3%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 17, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
I had to pick "none of these suicide methods, importance high" on, like, a third of these sick jokes of answer options.

ha.  I picked none of these on at least a third as well, although I didn't change the importance of any of them from the default.

I started that way, but eventually just started voting for the obvious Paul quotes.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: hotpprs on February 17, 2012, 01:45:38 PM
This poll, even though it's such a small sample, and is only for the GOP candidates, really says a lot. Why? It is so opposite of what the National Polls are saying, which includes the whole electorate. (Ron Paul here has 57%?) It shows how a 3rd party could become very viable in the next 2 decades as us old geezers die off. I think the demographic of this site is basically on the younger side, and I see more and more of that group that are migrating away from both parties. It always seemed to lean Democratic, and still does, but it seems things have changed from 4 years ago.
A lot of younger people that seemed to like Obama in 2008, now seem to looking for another alternative. They are fed up with both parties. I don't blame them. Both parties really are in cahoots in some fashion. I'm kind of fed up too. I'm in a position where I might have to spend over 200K on college for my 2 kids, without having any confidence they will get jobs. So is that investment worth it? I definitely think that does not have to be the case if these 2 political parties weren't trying to appease their own lobby groups to get reelected.
But Ron Paul is too "out there", like Ross Perot was, to win a general election right now.
But if someone comes along that is more electable, and picks a serious VP, (unlike Ross Perot did), then you could see a 3rd party emerge.
So the forum polls on this site may not be a great indication of how things will turn out in the current elections, but they may be a great forecaster of things to come down the road.
(I do think the Presidential prediction maps are pretty accurate. But that is because people update them based on the daily polls that come out. Not their personal preferences like the forum polls).


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Simfan34 on February 17, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
No, not really, the Democrats simply go with Ron Paul on that list, Obama really should have been included.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: BlueSwan on February 17, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Obama - 75,1%
Ron Paul & Mitt Romney - 37,6%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: hotpprs on February 18, 2012, 12:27:59 AM
No, not really, the Democrats simply go with Ron Paul on that list, Obama really should have been included.

If we go to bizzaro world, and only Democrats could vote in the general election, and the only 2 choices were Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. They would pick Ron Paul?
No way!
Any moderate Republican or Democrat will keep the 2 party spending machine alive and well. (George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush are proof of that).
Ron Paul does not believe in the nanny state, and does not appeal to the traditional Democrat voter. I don't believe the young people who supported Obama are traditional Democratic voters. They just hate George W. Bush, and blame him and all the GOP for their sorry looking futures. (They just don't get the fact that the Congress passes the laws, and the President just signs them. But they formed their opinions as teenagers when Bush was in office, so I guess he gets the blame. Life ain't always fair). So they are searching for a candidate, or party they can call their own, who will steer policy towards a better world for them, not the X-generation or the baby boomers. But Democrats in general would be way better off with Romney then Ron Paul.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on February 18, 2012, 12:52:40 AM
1st Place: Ron Paul.

 2nd Place: Jon Huntsman.

 3rd Place: Barack Obama.

Same here. 61.3%, 45%, and 42.9% respectively.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Chaddyr23 on February 18, 2012, 01:07:57 AM
Obama 67.4%
Romney 46.1%
Huntsman 40.4%

Obama's biggest pluses in my book according to this graph: Immigration, Taxes.
Romney's: Experience and Medicare.
Huntsman's: Social Security & Gay Marriage


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Јas on February 18, 2012, 02:32:10 AM
51.1% Obama
49.1% Huntsman
36.8% Gingrich
32.8% Santorum


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: bgwah on February 18, 2012, 02:53:32 AM
63.0% Obama
46.6% Paul
39.7% Huntsman


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Miles on February 18, 2012, 03:32:06 AM
Obama- 58%
Huntsman- 51%
Perry- 42%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: jeron on February 18, 2012, 03:33:18 AM
Obama 66.7
Paul 46.8
Santorum 33.5


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: minionofmidas on February 18, 2012, 08:17:58 AM
No, not really, the Democrats simply go with Ron Paul on that list, Obama really should have been included.

If we go to bizzaro world, and only Democrats could vote in the general election, and the only 2 choices were Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. They would pick Ron Paul?
No way!
Eh. Paul would certainly take a larger share of the vote in that scneario than in one where only the Republicans vote. Turnout would be lower, obviously.

Paul would win the younger Democrats' vote, obviously, and that's what's going on in the poll here too - Democrats are a clear majority on this site, and Paul is simply the candidate selector result (among those four options) for most of them.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Niemeyerite on February 18, 2012, 09:59:11 AM
1. Obama
2. Paul
3. Gingrich



Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Hash on February 18, 2012, 10:27:13 AM
I had to pick "none of these suicide methods, importance high" on, like, a third of these sick jokes of answer options.

Yeah, the choices were terrible. Where was the normal "gay marriage is a human right which nobody should be concerned about" option? Or where was the "oil sucks period" answer? I didn't pick NOTA, but I should have.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Peeperkorn on February 18, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
Paul 55.5%
Huntsman 51.1%
Perry 51.1%


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Dereich on February 18, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Huntsman 70.6%
Bachmann 54.7%
Santorum 54.7%

I'm surprised that I could get Huntsman and Bachmann so close to each other.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: King on February 18, 2012, 02:34:49 PM
Obama followed by Huntsman.   Bachmann was third, but even with Santorum and Romney..  Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul were both last.


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on February 18, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
Obama/Huntsman


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on February 18, 2012, 03:26:07 PM
Bachmann (64.3%)
Santorum (60.7%)
Perry (55.3%)
Gingrich (53.7%)
Paul (37.5%)
Romney
Obama
Huntsman (lol)


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Earthling on February 18, 2012, 08:07:48 PM
1. Barack Obama (78,0%)
2. Jon Huntsman (42,2%)
3. Mitt Romney (40,1%)


Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on February 19, 2012, 01:54:48 AM
Interesting.

Took the test with my natural cares - rolled out Perry, Bachmann and Gingrich.

Readjusted for balance, Perry, Gingrich, Bachmann (ie, I care 50 percent).

Readjusted for prominence, Bachmann, Santorum, Perry.

Gay marriage, Health Care, Afghanistan and Climate change become my top 4 issues.

I'm surprised at how high Newt figured into it. There should be a button that distinguishes between caring about the issue, and caring about the position on the issue - many candidates are close.

A better test would let me flag 'acceptable' and 'unacceptable' to all the opinions, not just one.




Title: Re: 2012 Candidate Selector: Very accurate.
Post by: frihetsivrare on February 22, 2012, 05:58:09 PM
Ron Paul 90.7% 9/11
Rick Santorum 43.4% 3/11
Newt Gingrich 28.3%, 1/11

This is just what I thought.  President Obama comes in right behind Gingrich also with 1/11.