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Title: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: California8429 on February 22, 2012, 09:56:23 PM
?


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: King on February 22, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
Gingrich.  It's quite obvious all four are terrible and the two in the center lose every time.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 22, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
Willard McMoneybags


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: retromike22 on February 22, 2012, 09:58:17 PM
Gingrich A-
Paul A
Romney B+
Santorum C+


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Vosem on February 22, 2012, 09:58:22 PM
The media picks that, as of now no one 'won'. Santorum saying he doesn't want the federal government to do anything to stop the secularist culture ("that's what they do") shifted me from probably-Johnson to probably-Santorum in the general election, as my fear that he would do something was what kept me a Santorum skeptic.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 22, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
Barack Obama.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on February 22, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
Romney was winning for a while but absolutely floundered and bombed towards the end without even having to make any major gaffes.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 22, 2012, 10:00:38 PM
So when Santorum falls, does Newt make his next rise?


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Likely Voter on February 22, 2012, 10:01:01 PM
i dont think anyone won. I think Romney was buoyed by the audience. I bet his organization got a lot of supporters into the crowd.

Rick faltered a bit and was too Senatorial, but had some good shots.

Gingrich held his own and might slow his bleeding.

Paul is Paul


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: NHI on February 22, 2012, 10:02:57 PM
Romney
Gingrich
Paul
Santorum


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: 5280 on February 22, 2012, 10:04:10 PM


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 22, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
Gingrich
Paul
Romney







Santorum


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 22, 2012, 10:07:57 PM
Gingrich made a comeback, IMO.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Yank2133 on February 22, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
Newt won the debate....therefore Romney wins.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: cavalcade on February 22, 2012, 10:10:41 PM
In a sense, nobody increased their chances of winning so Romney won.

But Paul burned Santorum real good...capstone of his political career?  It's like giving Best Picture to Return of the King, you just gotta do it.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Sam Spade on February 22, 2012, 10:10:52 PM
So we have the last supposed debate, and I have to ask, how much Santorum did Santorum receive after that performance.

Romney's last answer though - dear God...  Fortunately, those voting for him wouldn't their mind on him even if he revealed to having a couple of wives on the side.

So, Newt won, by a good bit.  I expect him to gain 15 points over the next couple of weeks...  :P


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Politico on February 22, 2012, 10:54:06 PM

This.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Cory on February 22, 2012, 11:17:11 PM
I think Romney won because he was able to defend himself from attacks effectively and was aggressive against Santorum. I couldn't help but notice Paul spent the night attacking Rick, now I'm officially convinced he is working in cahoots with Mitt for influence at the convention.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Lincoln Republican on February 22, 2012, 11:53:32 PM
Clearly Romney.

And I am backed up by the CNN political panel, the best political panel in the business.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Smash255 on February 23, 2012, 12:00:16 AM
Much like every other debate, Obama.  This really is one big clusterf*** of a Primary.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: California8429 on February 23, 2012, 01:03:22 AM
“Newt's message on energy development was spot-on. Drill now and stop bowing to foreign regimes begging them to do it for us. Then we'll all be "cheerful."
Sarah Palin

“On points, Newt wins.”
Guy Benson

“My verdict: 1) Gingrich”
Piers Morgan

“We have arrived back at where we began – Newt Gingrich as the adult in the room.”
Erick Erickson

“Newt Gingrich has a solid night.”
Bret Baier

“Newt Gingrich is the statesman of the party.” and
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Newt found his way back to be the frontrunner.”
Donna Brazil

“Do not underestimate the very real possibility of Newt coming back from the dead one more time.”
Joe Trippi

“I really like what Newt Gingrich said, that he will work with the governors. ”
Governor Jan Brewer

“Sure like Newt’s ideas!”
Neal Boortz

“Newt’s right about tyranny.”
Jonah Goldberg

“Newt came out and was affable, thoughtful, and deep.”
Ari Fleischer

“Newt is right to focus on gas and energy policies. The real answer to terrorism.”
Dick Morris

“Newt is doing the best job taking jabs at Obama tonight.”
Erick Erickson

“Gingrich nails it on Israel and Iran.”
Neal Boortz

“Newt’s having a good night, again.”
Stephen Hayes

“Newt completely aces the women in combat question.”
Jim Geraghty

“Great Newt answer.”
Matt Lewis

“Debate analysis so far – Newt: A”
John Hawkins

“Newt is impressive tonight and he keeps making thoughtful points.”
Ari Fleischer

“Gingrich is winning this debate handily.”
Ed Morrissey

“Newt is so knowledgeable.”
Dick Morris

“Newt’s right about tyranny.”
Jonah Goldberg

“Rock on new Gingrich!”
Kathryn Lopez

“SOUTH CAROLINA NEWT IS BACK”
Jamie Dupree

“Newt is NAILING it on the auto bailout.”
Neal Boortz

“That was the best Newt moment in weeks.”
Ben Smith

“Fantastic answer from Gingrich on UAW and bankruptcy.”
Dana Loesch

“Newt hit out of park on infanticide & Barack Obama.”
Laura Ingraham

“Newt is going to get a bounce again, isn't he?”
Kathryn Lopez

“Newt is brilliant in his education school critique with self esteem.”
Dick Morris

Newt was "intellectually superior" to the others on stage.
Governor Rick Perry


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 23, 2012, 01:05:15 AM
“Newt's message on energy development was spot-on. Drill now and stop bowing to foreign regimes begging them to do it for us. Then we'll all be "cheerful."
Sarah Palin

“On points, Newt wins.”
Guy Benson

“My verdict: 1) Gingrich”
Piers Morgan

“We have arrived back at where we began – Newt Gingrich as the adult in the room.”
Erick Erickson

“Newt Gingrich has a solid night.”
Bret Baier

“Newt Gingrich is the statesman of the party.” and
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Newt found his way back to be the frontrunner.”
Donna Brazil

“Do not underestimate the very real possibility of Newt coming back from the dead one more time.”
Joe Trippi

“I really like what Newt Gingrich said, that he will work with the governors. ”
Governor Jan Brewer

“Sure like Newt’s ideas!”
Neal Boortz

“Newt’s right about tyranny.”
Jonah Goldberg

“Newt came out and was affable, thoughtful, and deep.”
Ari Fleischer

“Newt is right to focus on gas and energy policies. The real answer to terrorism.”
Dick Morris

“Newt is doing the best job taking jabs at Obama tonight.”
Erick Erickson

“Gingrich nails it on Israel and Iran.”
Neal Boortz

“Newt’s having a good night, again.”
Stephen Hayes

“Newt completely aces the women in combat question.”
Jim Geraghty

“Great Newt answer.”
Matt Lewis

“Debate analysis so far – Newt: A”
John Hawkins

“Newt is impressive tonight and he keeps making thoughtful points.”
Ari Fleischer

“Gingrich is winning this debate handily.”
Ed Morrissey

“Newt is so knowledgeable.”
Dick Morris

“Newt’s right about tyranny.”
Jonah Goldberg

“Rock on new Gingrich!”
Kathryn Lopez

“SOUTH CAROLINA NEWT IS BACK”
Jamie Dupree

“Newt is NAILING it on the auto bailout.”
Neal Boortz

“That was the best Newt moment in weeks.”
Ben Smith

“Fantastic answer from Gingrich on UAW and bankruptcy.”
Dana Loesch

“Newt hit out of park on infanticide & Barack Obama.”
Laura Ingraham

“Newt is going to get a bounce again, isn't he?”
Kathryn Lopez

“Newt is brilliant in his education school critique with self esteem.”
Dick Morris

Newt was "intellectually superior" to the others on stage.
Governor Rick Perry


How long did it take to put this together? :P


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Joe Republic on February 23, 2012, 01:08:03 AM
"It is my purely objective belief that the candidate I am supporting won the debate, and the other candidates did terribly."

-- Any Republican


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on February 23, 2012, 01:40:24 AM
Including yourself?


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: King on February 23, 2012, 02:37:52 AM
"Four stars!" -- Roger Ebert


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Eraserhead on February 23, 2012, 02:40:41 AM
So was this worth watching or no?

Based on what I'm reading it sounds like everything is in place for Santorum to flop next Tuesday and for Gingrich to carry the ABR battle flag into Super Tuesday.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Bacon King on February 23, 2012, 10:40:39 AM
^^^^^^

This. Newt did great since he's not the center of attention anymore. Paul had a solid debate as well; he had several good applause lines. Romney was mediocre but fairly solid throughout. Santorum faced a lot of harsh attacks and, while I admire the way he attempted to explain how the earmark process actually works, that doesn't win with the voter's against Mitt's vague platitudes.

The best exchange of the debate was the earmark bit; I was laughing out loud when Santorum and Romney were both trying to stutter over each other and OUT OF KNOWHERE Newt just explains everything, and then Santorum brings Ron Paul in too just to get a four-way debate going on.

I loved the chairs, too, that was amusing. A great finale to this debate season; I only wish we still had another few coming (hosted by CNN, of course, theirs har been the best by far.)


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 23, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
"It is my purely objective belief that the candidate I am supporting won the debate, and the other candidates did terribly."

-- Any Republican


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: useful idiot on February 23, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: BigSkyBob on February 23, 2012, 02:38:19 PM
Gingrich won the debate handily.

Moderates Republicans ought to be nominated for idiots of the year. Their candidate decided to make their fellow moderates in tough races radioactive to anyone whom is even remotely considering running for President someday. Probably for the better.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 23, 2012, 03:32:42 PM
Santorum gained and lost from the debate.  He gained from the fact that the tenor of the debate made it clear that he was (as of the start of the debate) the frontrunner, and there is always a degree of herd mentality in the electorate.  That confirmed frontrunner status will gain him ABR votes that previously had been leaning towards Gingrich and Paul.  However, he didn't respond as well as I would have liked in his first debate as the target, not that many politicians could have.  It's a shame the March 1st debate was canceled.  It would have been nice to have a definite event at which we could judge whether Rick can rebound from that barrage instead of determining that from how the campaign trail goes.

Romney gained from having only one person gunning for him instead of three.  Either Newt has delusions that he can regain the leading ABR spot, or he thinks Romney will be the nominee, so it's time to get inside the wagon circle before he gets left alone on the prairie.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P! on February 23, 2012, 05:39:33 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: useful idiot on February 23, 2012, 06:28:23 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Gustaf on February 23, 2012, 06:47:12 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Jason Alvarez on February 23, 2012, 06:51:14 PM
Ron Paul did.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: useful idiot on February 23, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.

Romneycare, previous support for gun control, support for federal involvement in education on a greater level than Santorum certainly, Chinese trade issues, Wall Street bailout, cap and trade, minimum wage tied to inflation....

These should all be killers for a supposedly principled leader like Paul. However Paul rips the other candidates for more minor issues...


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: argentarius on February 23, 2012, 07:11:57 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.

Romneycare, previous support for gun control, support for federal involvement in education on a greater level than Santorum certainly, Chinese trade issues, Wall Street bailout, cap and trade, minimum wage tied to inflation....

These should all be killers for a supposedly principled leader like Paul. However Paul rips the other candidates for more minor issues...
Maybe if Rick didn't act like such a dick to him Ron Paul wouldn't attack him so much. While Rick was a footnote, he dedicated his debates to having spats with Ron Paul.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: useful idiot on February 23, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.

Romneycare, previous support for gun control, support for federal involvement in education on a greater level than Santorum certainly, Chinese trade issues, Wall Street bailout, cap and trade, minimum wage tied to inflation....

These should all be killers for a supposedly principled leader like Paul. However Paul rips the other candidates for more minor issues...
Maybe if Rick didn't act like such a dick to him Ron Paul wouldn't attack him so much. While Rick was a footnote, he dedicated his debates to having spats with Ron Paul.

Maybe he had spats with Paul because, you know, they disagree about stuff. I know that's a foreign concept, but maybe, just maybe, Santorum was focused on the issues and actually wanted to discuss them, rather than getting pissy over personality differences like the rest of the field.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: argentarius on February 23, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.

Romneycare, previous support for gun control, support for federal involvement in education on a greater level than Santorum certainly, Chinese trade issues, Wall Street bailout, cap and trade, minimum wage tied to inflation....

These should all be killers for a supposedly principled leader like Paul. However Paul rips the other candidates for more minor issues...
Maybe if Rick didn't act like such a dick to him Ron Paul wouldn't attack him so much. While Rick was a footnote, he dedicated his debates to having spats with Ron Paul.

Maybe he had spats with Paul because, you know, they disagree about stuff. I know that's a foreign concept, but maybe, just maybe, Santorum was focused on the issues and actually wanted to discuss them, rather than getting pissy over personality differences like the rest of the field.
And maybe Paul also likes discussing the issues too. I think if we had 90 minutes of candidates agressively engaging eachother it would make for a good debate. Paul just gets along with Romney, and doesn't with Santorum. Maybe they have the same sort of personality.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: useful idiot on February 23, 2012, 07:53:10 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.

Romneycare, previous support for gun control, support for federal involvement in education on a greater level than Santorum certainly, Chinese trade issues, Wall Street bailout, cap and trade, minimum wage tied to inflation....

These should all be killers for a supposedly principled leader like Paul. However Paul rips the other candidates for more minor issues...
Maybe if Rick didn't act like such a dick to him Ron Paul wouldn't attack him so much. While Rick was a footnote, he dedicated his debates to having spats with Ron Paul.

Maybe he had spats with Paul because, you know, they disagree about stuff. I know that's a foreign concept, but maybe, just maybe, Santorum was focused on the issues and actually wanted to discuss them, rather than getting pissy over personality differences like the rest of the field.
And maybe Paul also likes discussing the issues too. I think if we had 90 minutes of candidates agressively engaging eachother it would make for a good debate. Paul just gets along with Romney, and doesn't with Santorum. Maybe they have the same sort of personality.

Except that Paul's attacks on Santorum last night, and a lot of his attacks on Gingrich previously, weren't about issues. They weren't over foreign policy, where I'd like to see Gingrich and Santorum attacked, and they weren't even over social issues. They were character attacks. To call Santorum a "fake" and criticize him for being establishment while tacitly supporting Romney is akin to being in a debate with David Duke and Shirley Sherrod and spending all your time calling Sherrod a racist without making a peep about Duke...


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Napoleon on February 23, 2012, 07:56:37 PM
Romney won and Rick lost.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: tpfkaw on February 23, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
It's not like Romney being a member of the establishment is news to anyone.  Anyone who is voting for Romney realizes he is part of the establishment and is okay with that.


Title: Re: Who won the CNN debate?
Post by: Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P! on February 23, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Paul

Mitt continues to reveal himself as a whiny spoiled bitch. Paul's fellatio of Romney distracted from whatever point he wanted to get across and debunked the myth of Paul having any sort of integrity.

"PAUL ATTACKED MY CANDIDATE, WHAT A MONSTER"

His attacks could have been against Gingrich and it would have been no different. The fact that he's a lapdog for a spineless piece of filth like Romney speaks volumes about him. Paul is supporting-by-proxy a man who has even less in common with him on the issues than the other two candidates in the race. It doesn't matter if it's for his son's possible political gain or because he likes Romney, both reasons are despicable.

How so? I don't see why Paul would be closer to Santorum or Gingrich compared to Romney.

Romneycare, previous support for gun control, support for federal involvement in education on a greater level than Santorum certainly, Chinese trade issues, Wall Street bailout, cap and trade, minimum wage tied to inflation....

These should all be killers for a supposedly principled leader like Paul. However Paul rips the other candidates for more minor issues...
Maybe if Rick didn't act like such a dick to him Ron Paul wouldn't attack him so much. While Rick was a footnote, he dedicated his debates to having spats with Ron Paul.

Maybe he had spats with Paul because, you know, they disagree about stuff. I know that's a foreign concept, but maybe, just maybe, Santorum was focused on the issues and actually wanted to discuss them, rather than getting pissy over personality differences like the rest of the field.
And maybe Paul also likes discussing the issues too. I think if we had 90 minutes of candidates agressively engaging eachother it would make for a good debate. Paul just gets along with Romney, and doesn't with Santorum. Maybe they have the same sort of personality.

Except that Paul's attacks on Santorum last night, and a lot of his attacks on Gingrich previously, weren't about issues. They weren't over foreign policy, where I'd like to see Gingrich and Santorum attacked, and they weren't even over social issues. They were character attacks. To call Santorum a "fake" and criticize him for being establishment while tacitly supporting Romney is akin to being in a debate with David Duke and Shirley Sherrod and spending all your time calling Sherrod a racist without making a peep about Duke...

Everyone and his cousin's dog knows that Romney is an establishment fake, and has known that ever since South Carolina Newt at least. Santorum being an establishment fake, on the other hand, is new to the majority of the electorate.

Ragging on Romney for that at this point would be entirely redundant and pointless since we've already heard just about everything on him already.