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Title: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 24, 2012, 01:53:19 PM
here it is.  for fictional purposes allow us to imagine my campaign is headquartered in the back store room of Juan Deli Grocery, 13002 Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn, NY (photo currently unavailable).


in this Thread I will, over time, flesh out my platform, as well as other miscellaneous and potential irrelevant thoughts.


non-supporters and supporters alike are free to ask the candidate any question, but please keep discussion amongst each other to a minimum as we're in violation of zoning law, and if the cops hear a lot of voices coming from Juan Deli we're liable to get busted.



Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on February 24, 2012, 02:47:37 PM
I looked it up on Google Maps, and it's in Queens.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 24, 2012, 03:18:33 PM
I looked it up on Google Maps, and it's in Queens.

as such, we open with a gaffe.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 24, 2012, 05:59:31 PM
It's right next to Phil Rizzuto Park. How do you feel about your campaign's association with a Yankee?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on February 24, 2012, 07:50:31 PM
When will you announce me as your running mate?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 24, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
It's right next to Phil Rizzuto Park. How do you feel about your campaign's association with a Yankee?

the official position of the CPoA-M-L-T is to view all capital-sponsored sport as a means of diverting the pent up revolutionary and sexual energy of the proletariat away from threatening the regeneration of the means of production.  it is thus unworthy of comment.

When will you announce me as your running mate?

good question.  as I stated in my campaign kickoff thread, but this probably bears re-stating, all members of the Community are encourage to display interest in serving as my running mate via private message.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 24, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
'ah, also.  my official campaign theme song is "...My Nine Rides Shotgun" by Long Island's own, Brand New:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmHf5mWD4I

This has happened before
I'm sure
And it'll happen again
It's getting old
And you never know
It's not the first time
She said it's the last time...again

And you're a tease

Have fun overseas
No I'm kidding

Give it some time
And take my advice
see all these scars on me?
I'm just marking marking territory
But I know a million girls would kill to be you right now

Give me one night inside of your thighs
A million girls would kill to be you right now

And it's happened before
And it'll happen again!

When your boyfriend comes home
I suggest he keeps you terribly close
And you never know
Wouldn't be the first time
Don't think this will ever end

Know you're a tease

Have fun studying abroad
No I'm kidding

Give it some time
take my advice
see all these these scars on me?
I'm just marking territory
But I know a million girls would kill to be you right now

Give me one night inside of your thighs
A million girls would kill to be you right now

And it's happened before
And it will happen again

<largely unintelligible outro>


this will be played on a repeat loop throughout all of my speeches in the hopes of minimizing my gaffes.  much like the blender in Naso's YouTube video.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 24, 2012, 10:21:35 PM
Brand New kicks ass.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on February 24, 2012, 10:23:37 PM
It's right next to Phil Rizzuto Park. How do you feel about your campaign's association with a Yankee?

the official position of the CPoA-M-L-T is to view all capital-sponsored sport as a means of diverting the pent up revolutionary and sexual energy of the proletariat away from threatening the regeneration of the means of production.  it is thus unworthy of comment.

When will you announce me as your running mate?

good question.  as I stated in my campaign kickoff thread, but this probably bears re-stating, all members of the Community are encourage to display interest in serving as my running mate via private message.

I will only apply in public, as I believe in transparency, not shadowy backroom deals.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 24, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
in that case you will not be considered.  and besides your belief in this silly liberal 'transparency' is an anachronism.  when I am elected everything will be done in private, including but not limited to signing death warrants, defecation, eating low-carb cereal, sporting events, conferences with international drug kingpins (Atlasia will be converted to a narco-state), and your ghost-writing of my autobiography at gunpoint while I watch Seinfeld re-runs on state television.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on February 24, 2012, 11:34:28 PM
in that case you will not be considered.  and besides your belief in this silly liberal 'transparency' is an anachronism.  when I am elected everything will be done in private, including but not limited to signing death warrants, defecation, eating low-carb cereal, sporting events, conferences with international drug kingpins (Atlasia will be converted to a narco-state), and your ghost-writing of my autobiography at gunpoint while I watch Seinfeld re-runs on state television.

In that case, the Earth Liberation Front anti-endorses the Bourgeois Ivy League Suburban Long Islander Party Communist Party candidate..


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 25, 2012, 02:12:44 AM
Why Seinfeld, specifically?


Title: Tweed campaign first Vlog.
Post by: © tweed on February 25, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Young Tweed answers questions and provides his campaign mission statement in this first video of the campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFwAhKPsX0

WARNING: extensive use of profanity


Title: Re: Tweed campaign first Vlog.
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 25, 2012, 01:25:52 PM
Young Tweed answers questions and provides his campaign mission statement in this first video of the campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFwAhKPsX0

WARNING: extensive use of profanity

I love you.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 25, 2012, 01:46:08 PM
Just FTR, my response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvUtwuVHsmo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvUtwuVHsmo)

This may be the first time I've ever posted something with me talking...


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on February 25, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
Young Tweed answers questions and provides his campaign mission statement in this first video of the campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFwAhKPsX0

WARNING: extensive use of profanity

This is why you need Atlasia's original troll as your running mate.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Lincoln Republican on February 25, 2012, 04:21:07 PM
I can be bought.

What are you offering?


Title: bgwah will be Tweed VP: video announcement
Post by: © tweed on February 25, 2012, 07:12:45 PM
very excited to announce that bgwah will serve as my vice presidential candidate for the June 2012 election cycle.  here is my speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUYoIMI5kM&feature=youtu.be


WARNING: use of adult language.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: greenforest32 on February 25, 2012, 07:27:01 PM
That beard doesn't suit you Tweed

You should shave


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 25, 2012, 07:27:54 PM
Tweed swears way too f**kin' much. :P


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 25, 2012, 07:49:26 PM
Can we get a video from Bgwah? :P


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 25, 2012, 07:52:34 PM
Seriously though, the rant you went on about Mikado and Bgwah and everyone that doesn't post pictures...I died.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on February 25, 2012, 08:28:03 PM
Seriously though, the rant you went on about Mikado and Bgwah and everyone that doesn't post pictures...I died.
I was in the chat when he was talking to Mikado about this (where he got that material from).  I can't fault someone for not wanting to give out personal info on a site like this.  I know I, for one, have posted enough stupid sh**t that connected this particular internet persona with the real me would be...awkward.  But each to his own, eh Tweed?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on February 25, 2012, 09:34:34 PM
Brilliant speech, comrade. I'm honored to serve as your running mate.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: TomC on February 25, 2012, 10:31:41 PM
Sweet- I'll come back for this.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 26, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
delighted to have Old Forum veteran TCash101 on board.  everyone knows my feelings about the importance of tenure to the membership.


for everyone else, please note that the most active (and earliest aboard) of my supporters will be duly rewarded once I assume power, so jump aboard now and receive your deferred prize. 


I am the anti-meritocratic candidate.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on February 26, 2012, 11:47:55 AM
Might an ambassadorship be in order should I join you in your campaign?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 26, 2012, 11:56:34 AM
Might an ambassadorship be in order should I join you in your campaign?

that is setting the bar quite low.  if I were you, I would have began by asking for a high level cabinet position.  but, to each their own.  my answer to you: absolutely!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 26, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
Ah, now you have my attention. This should be good. The Golden Era...


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 26, 2012, 12:07:23 PM
Ah, now you have my attention. This should be good. The Golden Era...

glad to hear it, Phil.  Marxism-Leninism-Tweedism (also known as Marxism-Leninism with Atlasian Characteristics or Boss Tweed Thought) is a systematic fusion of the reactionary-cultural with the revolutionary-political, destined to bring many into the fold.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 26, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
Ah, now you have my attention. This should be good. The Golden Era...

glad to hear it, Phil.  Marxism-Leninism-Tweedism (also known as Marxism-Leninism with Atlasian Characteristics or Boss Tweed Thought) is a systematic fusion of the reactionary-cultural with the revolutionary-political, destined to bring many into the fold.

Oh, ok. Keystone Phil-ism promotes Atlasian fun and a return to the old days so...yeah.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 26, 2012, 12:17:31 PM
Ah, now you have my attention. This should be good. The Golden Era...

glad to hear it, Phil.  Marxism-Leninism-Tweedism (also known as Marxism-Leninism with Atlasian Characteristics or Boss Tweed Thought) is a systematic fusion of the reactionary-cultural with the revolutionary-political, destined to bring many into the fold.

Oh, ok. Keystone Phil-ism promotes Atlasian fun and a return to the old days so...yeah.

glad to see that we are in agreement!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Franzl on February 26, 2012, 01:13:42 PM
I endorse your candidacy and look forward to my reward once you are in power. Good luck sir!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 26, 2012, 01:34:25 PM
I endorse your candidacy and look forward to my reward once you are in power. Good luck sir!

duly noted.


I encourage ;) all of my supporters to re-register under the name 'Communist Party of Atlasia (Marxist-Leninist-Tweedist)'.  and this will be duly noted as well.


Title: Re: Tweed campaign first Vlog.
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 26, 2012, 08:59:44 PM
Young Tweed answers questions and provides his campaign mission statement in this first video of the campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFwAhKPsX0

WARNING: extensive use of profanity

This is brilliant! Oh my God. You seem so normal.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 26, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
"Av-your-ez Nix"


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 26, 2012, 09:20:20 PM

I've always pronounced it "Ay-Vee-Or-Ose Nix"


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on February 26, 2012, 09:37:26 PM
Tweed, what do you think about reducing the number of regions from five to three?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on February 26, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
I always love it when old timers come along and think that by appearing to not care about anything, it's somehow some sort of rebellious, revolutionary, very subversive effort. As if it comes across as anything but a shallow wish that they could be the center of some sort of contest of egos, coasting purely on their personalities and characters they've so carefully constructed on an internet messageboard over many years, while lecturing others for the effort they put into things.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on February 26, 2012, 10:37:33 PM

That's pretty much how I pronounce it. Where'd'ja get that name anyway?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 27, 2012, 08:37:56 AM

Ha. That was just my phonetical spelling of Tweed's pronunciation.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: minionofmidas on February 27, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
in that case you will not be considered.  and besides your belief in this silly liberal 'transparency' is an anachronism.  when I am elected everything will be done in private, including but not limited to signing death warrants, defecation, eating low-carb cereal, sporting events, conferences with international drug kingpins (Atlasia will be converted to a narco-state), and your ghost-writing of my autobiography at gunpoint while I watch Seinfeld re-runs on state television.
Presidents defecating in private? Sacrilege!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 27, 2012, 09:07:44 AM
Tweed, what is your opinion of the cabinet positions, specifically SoIA? The Senate has recently debated a bill to abolish the position.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 27, 2012, 01:24:22 PM
Tweed, what is your opinion of the cabinet positions, specifically SoIA? The Senate has recently debated a bill to abolish the position.

I've supported paring down the number of jobs.  SOIA just the tip of the iceberg.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 27, 2012, 11:00:31 PM
BGWAH STANDS FOR SOMETHING? AND IS PRONOUNCED BEEG-WAH?!?!

endorsed.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on February 28, 2012, 04:49:42 AM
BGWAH STANDS FOR SOMETHING? AND IS PRONOUNCED BEEG-WAH?!?!

endorsed.

my campaign will be chock full of revelations.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: minionofmidas on February 28, 2012, 07:21:43 AM
I only now noticed the second video, and the fact that Mr Wah is running. As a Wahist, obviously you have my vote.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on February 28, 2012, 12:36:04 PM
I always think of it as BIG-wah for some reason.  :P


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on February 28, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
I always think of it as BIG-wah for some reason.  :P

I've always said "bag-wah"


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on February 28, 2012, 05:31:25 PM
I always think of it as BIG-wah for some reason.  :P
Me too.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Insula Dei on February 28, 2012, 06:24:35 PM
Wait, Averroes Nix' username isn't a reference to, you know, Averroes?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Simfan34 on February 28, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Ditto.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on February 28, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
Might an ambassadorship be in order should I join you in your campaign?

that is setting the bar quite low.  if I were you, I would have began by asking for a high level cabinet position.  but, to each their own.  my answer to you: absolutely!

Fine. If it's open I'd take Secretary of External Affairs. That's my ambition as a participant in Tweedish patronage.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on February 29, 2012, 01:19:26 AM
I only now noticed the second video, and the fact that Mr Wah is running. As a Wahist, obviously you have my vote.

I didn't know you were a fan!! :D


Title: Young Tweed continues on the trail, with a new speech.
Post by: © tweed on March 05, 2012, 09:23:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQWU5dwIqPg&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on March 05, 2012, 09:49:25 PM
That was deep, man.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 07, 2012, 09:07:16 PM
I love these videos.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 07, 2012, 09:10:41 PM
Okay so I just got to about the 5:30 point of the video and I am crying. Because you're absolutely right. AF is really the only place I've ever felt welcome and it kinda saved my life.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on March 08, 2012, 12:29:24 AM
This is not a message board. This is a way of life.

Tweed '12!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on March 08, 2012, 03:03:20 AM
I think you will rank pretty high up on my ballot.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 08, 2012, 09:19:02 AM
I think you will rank pretty high up on my ballot.

I encourage my supporters to disassociate from preferential voting and simply vote "1. Boss Tweed" in June.  as I did in the recent Northeastern election despite not being a candidate.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 08, 2012, 09:26:14 AM
Okay so I just got to about the 5:30 point of the video and I am crying. Because you're absolutely right. AF is really the only place I've ever felt welcome and it kinda saved my life.

as President I will nationalize counseling & psychological services and they will be free at the point of use for all, except the rich.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on March 08, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
Okay so I just got to about the 5:30 point of the video and I am crying. Because you're absolutely right. AF is really the only place I've ever felt welcome and it kinda saved my life.

as President I will nationalize counseling & psychological services and they will be free at the point of use for all, except the rich.
Why not for the rich? They should be required to attend counseling since being rich is a symptom of an underlying mental illness.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on March 08, 2012, 06:24:53 PM
Okay so I just got to about the 5:30 point of the video and I am crying. Because you're absolutely right. AF is really the only place I've ever felt welcome and it kinda saved my life.

as President I will nationalize counseling & psychological services and they will be free at the point of use for all, except the rich.
Why not for the rich? They should be required to attend counseling since being rich is a symptom of an underlying mental illness.

God, I hope these people are sarcastic.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 08, 2012, 08:12:58 PM
Okay so I just got to about the 5:30 point of the video and I am crying. Because you're absolutely right. AF is really the only place I've ever felt welcome and it kinda saved my life.

as President I will nationalize counseling & psychological services and they will be free at the point of use for all, except the rich.
Why not for the rich? They should be required to attend counseling since being rich is a symptom of an underlying mental illness.

they will be forced to attend counseling at their forced labor camps but they'll have to pay for it out of their nationalized property and nominal wages.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on March 09, 2012, 03:41:54 PM
Okay so I just got to about the 5:30 point of the video and I am crying. Because you're absolutely right. AF is really the only place I've ever felt welcome and it kinda saved my life.

as President I will nationalize counseling & psychological services and they will be free at the point of use for all, except the rich.
Why not for the rich? They should be required to attend counseling since being rich is a symptom of an underlying mental illness.

they will be forced to attend counseling at their forced labor camps but they'll have to pay for it out of their nationalized property and nominal wages.
Sounds great!


Title: Tweedist policy position: abolish preferential voting
Post by: © tweed on March 12, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
when elected, I will abolish the system of preferential voting for all federal elections, to be replaced with a system of pure first-past-the-post, on Inauguration Day.  this will be done via executive order.*

I trace the death knell of the game to the push for preferential voting that occurred in the first half of 2004.  I say with disdain that this was backed by President Nym90, for whom I bled in February.  this motion was, of course, backed by the forefathers of everything that is evil, the United Atlas Centrists.

the UAC was a bandwagon to end all bandwagons, the post-modern political juggernaut we all must come to hate should the race be saved.  they had no cogent positions or orientations short of 'Elect the UAC'.  this was the worst form of liberalism... its extreme; no longer must we simply operate within a system that is a vacuum full of egotists, but we had to within that elect a float full of egotists.

and so the UAC banked on being everyone's second choice, and it worked, as Gustaf deposed Nym90, who had sewn the seeds of his own demise (as I had warned him; he did not seem to care).  I attempted to organize a movement that would have been a 'counter-ideological alliance' between Democrats and Republicans, to mutually preference each other's nominee in second, but again, Nym90 failed to go along, and the rest is a troubled history.


so!  enough of the past, believe it or not, we do have a future.  that future is to get rid of the system of preferential voting, which I shall do with the stroke of a pen.  this will be good.  it will force everyone into parties, two major parties.  and while this is a horrible way to run the real world, we are not the real world: we are the players of a role-playing game, and the return of party politics will mean the return of Machines, the return of meaningful Primaries, and so on.

see, what we have now is a vacuum, where we have no activity for a long while, then everyone shows up to vote in straw polls every few months, and that's it.  I can fix it.  I was here when it was better, so hop along and I will lead you to the promised land.

Tweed '12: Restore the Pride**.



__
* I anticipate people will complain about this being illegal; for now, I will simply state that I believe it to be legal and will gladly defend the action through the legal channels should both I and the Community deem it to be necessary.

**slogan borrowed from James Hoffa's 1998 campaign for the presidency of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 12, 2012, 09:10:04 PM
Hooray!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on March 12, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
booooooo


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on March 13, 2012, 12:41:50 AM

Atlasians to be sent to re-education camps on July 6, 2012
  • Yelnoc


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Pingvin on March 13, 2012, 12:59:11 AM
NO TO TWEED! YES TO LIBERTY!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on March 13, 2012, 01:23:48 AM
I think you should campaign on a Parliament system, that way we can have backroom deals, lobbying, corruption, and all that other fun [Inks]. First past the post is boring.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 13, 2012, 08:30:59 AM

"It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."  --Lenin


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on March 13, 2012, 03:58:32 PM
So Tweed what's your opinion on parliament system? I think it's a lot more fun than just having two parties in FPTP. Because you know, Unholy coalitions and all.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 13, 2012, 04:33:23 PM
So Tweed what's your opinion on parliament system? I think it's a lot more fun than just having two parties in FPTP. Because you know, Unholy coalitions and all.

fine so long as it were constructed using FPTP balloting.  though in practicality I'm not sure how well it would work, as we're too small to have a diverse array of "ridings"/districts


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 13, 2012, 04:45:44 PM
and obviously I will need a significant level of domestic support (the floor would probably be the Bolsheviks-1917, at 25%) to get anywhere with my programme, so ultimately the power lies with you, the citizen.


Title: TO ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS OF THE ATLASIA
Post by: Pingvin on March 21, 2012, 01:09:51 PM
()

Who is Mr. Tweed?
And who are his supporters?
Lets answer this questions.

1) Tweed - dangerous bolshevik, who now if elected, will take away our essential liberties.

glad to hear it, Phil.  Marxism-Leninism-Tweedism (also known as Marxism-Leninism with Atlasian Characteristics or Boss Tweed Thought) is a systematic fusion of the reactionary-cultural with the revolutionary-political, destined to bring many into the fold.

"It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."  --Lenin

2) His main supporters are:
20RP12 - "Libertarian" who accepted SoIA job in the Polnut administration.
Bgwah - formerly powerhunger liberal "Lion" of the Senate who now will try to use his influence to in the Supreme Court.
When will you announce me as your running mate?
Citizens! If you want to save our country from the dangerous socialist ideology who killed 100+ millions innocent people, and if you don't want your children to be slaves of the main Tweed supporters - corporations and left radicals
VOTE
ANYBODY
BUT
NOT
TWEED


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Oakvale on March 21, 2012, 01:16:33 PM
hahaha oh my god


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 21, 2012, 01:17:30 PM
Woah woah woah...I never endorsed anyone. I told him I loved him cuz he's funny. I'm not endorsing anyone yet. Slow your rollers.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on March 21, 2012, 02:02:13 PM
Sorry Pingvin, you still don't get to go to re-education camp with all of your friends. We plan to keep you around as token opposition we know nobody will take seriously to maintain the illusion of democracy.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 21, 2012, 02:09:01 PM
And I'm SoIA, btw.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Pingvin on March 21, 2012, 02:09:10 PM
Sorry Pingvin, you still don't get to go to re-education camp with all of your friends. We plan to keep you around as token opposition we know nobody will take seriously to maintain the illusion of democracy.
Sorry bgwah, you still don't go to the my "The Communists, which we will hang on lampposts" list. I plan to send you to work as regular attorney on the Haiti.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 22, 2012, 07:51:21 AM
thanks for the free media bro.


as for an actual update, I do have a few ideas floating in my head on a potential short essay.  no release date at the moment but it shouldn't be too long.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on March 22, 2012, 03:23:16 PM
thanks for the free media bro.


as for an actual update, I do have a few ideas floating in my head on a potential short essay.  no release date at the moment but it shouldn't be too long.
Essays?  Man...

That's school stuff.  Atlasia is supposed to, I dunno, at least pretend to be a fun form of escapism.  Just make another video!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 23, 2012, 03:38:23 PM
using the term 'essay' lightly.  it'll resemble my post on page no. 5.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Sbane on March 24, 2012, 12:41:11 PM
No essays, more videos!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 24, 2012, 02:22:32 PM


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 24, 2012, 03:53:44 PM
anti-intellectual spectacle based jerk offs.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Yelnoc on March 24, 2012, 04:36:03 PM
Bread and Circus, please.


Title: Atlasia and 'embeddedness' : sorry kids, this is text.
Post by: © tweed on March 26, 2012, 07:29:27 AM
my basic idea here is this. increasingly the Atlasia simulation has become remote from the community at-large.  even Young Tweed, who is running for president now and will win, has absolutely no idea what has gone on here since, say, 2007.  moreover, this is the norm.

contrast this to the situation in February 2004, the heated and spirited first-ever contest between Nym90 and the defunct Supersoulty.  this was a community affair that nearly every regular poster (save, perhaps, jmfcst) was conscious of or even invested in.  and when bullmoose88 (Heil Hitler?  never was clarified... probably was just born in 1988) cast his ballot for Nym, tipping the balance of the election to our esteemed first president, 11+year member, and Modadmin, it was important not because bullmoose was a Republican crossing lines, but because it was bullmoose, and we knew who he was, and he had cast the deciding vote.


so, what am I proposing?  a conscious and spirited re-interweaving of Atlasia and the community.  let's stop wasting so much time using our mock state apparatus to debate absolutely pointless and absurd 'Atlasia-Co-Operative Republic of Guyana Free Trade Act's, and more in using the government sim as a genuine expression of the culture and social relations of the community...

...for instance, imagine an Atlasian politicization of the Inks-Deluge crisis?  perhaps if it were the job of Atlasia to pass a resolution taking an official stand on this, to express the general will of the community on a topic that I would venture to say has tapped into more passion in the past few days than this stupid and dead game has in years, the simulation would once again mean something.  there would be skin in the game.




I have bolded the most important parts for you ADD / substandard IQ cases, but realize that only when you read the whole thing can you contemplate its true meaning... the hard work that leads us to the luminous summits of knowledge, if I can very roughly paraphrase Marx.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 26, 2012, 08:14:20 AM
This is beautiful. Would absolutely love to see this happen.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: ilikeverin on March 26, 2012, 08:17:18 AM
So Atlasia as something more like, I don't know, a Student Council, where we can debate Forum issues in a way that the administration can see, rather than a separate game of its own?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 26, 2012, 08:39:57 AM
Tweed- this seems like a good call...no one here much cares if their bill passes in the Senate because it won't have an affect- if you have influence over something no matter how small people will care. You should've seen the contested elections in the Homeowners Association!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on March 26, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
I strongly support this aspect of the Tweed platform.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 28, 2012, 02:12:27 AM
I strongly support this aspect of the Tweed platform.

so lend me your machinery and I'll make it happen.  endgame.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 28, 2012, 02:13:51 AM
I strongly support this aspect of the Tweed platform.

so lend me your machinery and I'll make it happen.  endgame.

and btw your silly new Party is as guilty of what I decry as any other.  debating the distribution of progressive income tax brackets.  real consequential stuff for a message board sim bro.  start practicing what you preach.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on March 28, 2012, 12:39:31 PM
I strongly support this aspect of the Tweed platform.

so lend me your machinery and I'll make it happen.  endgame.

and btw your silly new Party is as guilty of what I decry as any other.  debating the distribution of progressive income tax brackets.  real consequential stuff for a message board sim bro.  start practicing what you preach.

We're now debating endorsing you for President, I'll have you know.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Insula Dei on March 28, 2012, 12:58:45 PM
I, of course, am fully with Tweed in this fight.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on March 28, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
I strongly support this aspect of the Tweed platform.

so lend me your machinery and I'll make it happen.  endgame.

and btw your silly new Party is as guilty of what I decry as any other.  debating the distribution of progressive income tax brackets.  real consequential stuff for a message board sim bro.  start practicing what you preach.

We're now debating endorsing you for President, I'll have you know.

two posts in and I very much enjoy the tenor of the debate.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 28, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Hey.  Tweed.  Senate run.  How about it?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on March 28, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
Hey.  Tweed.  Senate run.  How about it?

Dammit I was gonna post this :P


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on April 17, 2012, 09:37:13 PM
time for a bump.  Young Tweed will add some content shortly, including a comment on the upcoming midterm elections and how they relate to the Tweedist revolution; as well as Polnut's forthcoming abdication.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on April 17, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Atlasia's History requires Tweed.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on April 23, 2012, 11:34:33 PM
The recent elections are interesting. You know, I waited until Sunday to vote. I was going to preference whichever progressive PMed to vote first. And that PM never came. Nobody asked for my vote. Nobody did much campaigning, apparently.

Winning one out of five seats is pretty embarrassing for the Atlasian left.

I can't help but feel partially to blame... Perhaps it is because I led the Atlasian left for so long that few others knew what kind of GOTV efforts etc. are required. But I don't know --- the Atlasian left was in shambles before the JCP, too.

The main reason I voluntarily stepped down from a major party leadership role is that I was tired of it. The GOTV, the intra-party diplomacy (there was a lot of it), the conventions... it just ended up feeling so exhausting. For an internet game! I simply didn't see why I should do something if I was no longer enjoying it.

But I was definitely also tired of always being blamed for Atlasia's problems. People complained when I recruited candidates! It was just absurd. Was I suppose to apologize for recruiting BRTD to run for Senate? Because you know what, the election would not have been competitive or interesting had I not done that. And while he may not have been the most active Senator ever, I hope the recent inactivity in the Senate is a reality check for you guys.

Even before the JCP became the largest party, I was heavily criticized for my partisanship., because I always voted JCP. But I firmly believed that a certain level of partisanship was required for an election game to thrive. And considering that it was not until the rise of the JCP and RPP in late 2008 that Atlasia began to reach its 2009 renaissance, I feel vindicated in that position.

The verdict is still out on whether or not the JCP/RPP dissolution has turned out well, but I'm optimistic. Obviously turnout is down to the absence of certain GOTV efforts. But we have a lot of new players and Senators as well.

This was a very crucial ingredient in the Atlasian Renaissance. New players. Most people involved in those two parties were new players. There were exceptions, and I suppose I wasn't technically new (as I joined in 2004, but I was a joke player for so long I may as well have been new).

I think the biggest problem we had with the JCP/RPP is that we often just recycled the same old people. Newbies felt like they had to play second fiddle to veterans. But the truth is as JCP Chair I often struggled to find candidates. It was frustrating, I had the votes but not the candidates. I was always happy when I had a new player to run for office. But in odd years, and a mid-term that was not good for progressives, there often weren't many people for me to attempt to recruit.

I'm hoping the timing of the dissolution will work out. This being a website dedicated to presidential elections, one of which is happening this year, we should see a surge in new forum members through November. We've already seen a lot of new people like Clarence join and get involved in Atlasia. We need to make sure we take advantage of all of the new posters who will be joining our forum.

Atlasia is in need of a fairly delicate balance. We need people who understand the most basic dynamics of this game, and those people will most likely be veterans, but we also need room to let new players grow. I think it's safe to say Comrade Tweed and I understand how Atlasia works, but we've already had our fun with party machines and what not (me with the JCP, Tweed with the AFDNC). I know I won't be motivated by that, and I doubt Tweed will either considering he's in a one man party.

The Tweed/Bgwah Regime will hopefully steer Atlasia through this critical time, providing guidance to new players and reminding us all what it is that makes this game thrive. This ticket isn't about us. This ticket is about reinvigorating Atlasia.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Napoleon on April 24, 2012, 01:20:27 AM
Meh, definitely sounds like you're on the wrong ticket bro.

I don't agree that the Senate is dead. It is very much alive, especially compared to when boring nerds like Junkie were doing nothing with their seats. Players like Sbane, Scott, Clarence, and TJ you can tell are excited about being in the Senate (and in some cases I am excited to help defeat them). The New Atlasian Healthcare Act, for example, is already at eight pages of debate and counting. People are interested in debating health care, or withdrawal of troops, or legalization of drugs more than they are, not to reopen this old and stale can of worms, national iniatives or legislative petitions. The agenda of my administration would reflect this sentiment.

I would like to have a series of presidential debates with Tweed (and any other candidates with running-mates), because you bring the right problems to light but I find my solutions to be more substantive than Tweed's various proposals.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on April 24, 2012, 01:50:36 AM
I agree that the Senate has improved with some of the recent resignations. I just think it's silly that people slammed BRTD so much when he almost always voted and served out his term.

And I'm on the fun ticket, so :P


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on April 24, 2012, 02:12:17 AM
The recent elections are interesting. You know, I waited until Sunday to vote. I was going to preference whichever progressive PMed to vote first. And that PM never came. Nobody asked for my vote. Nobody did much campaigning, apparently.

Winning one out of five seats is pretty embarrassing for the Atlasian left.

I can't help but feel partially to blame... Perhaps it is because I led the Atlasian left for so long that few others knew what kind of GOTV efforts etc. are required. But I don't know --- the Atlasian left was in shambles before the JCP, too.

The main reason I voluntarily stepped down from a major party leadership role is that I was tired of it. The GOTV, the intra-party diplomacy (there was a lot of it), the conventions... it just ended up feeling so exhausting. For an internet game! I simply didn't see why I should do something if I was no longer enjoying it.

But I was definitely also tired of always being blamed for Atlasia's problems. People complained when I recruited candidates! It was just absurd. Was I suppose to apologize for recruiting BRTD to run for Senate? Because you know what, the election would not have been competitive or interesting had I not done that. And while he may not have been the most active Senator ever, I hope the recent inactivity in the Senate is a reality check for you guys.

Even before the JCP became the largest party, I was heavily criticized for my partisanship., because I always voted JCP. But I firmly believed that a certain level of partisanship was required for an election game to thrive. And considering that it was not until the rise of the JCP and RPP in late 2008 that Atlasia began to reach its 2009 renaissance, I feel vindicated in that position.

The verdict is still out on whether or not the JCP/RPP dissolution has turned out well, but I'm optimistic. Obviously turnout is down to the absence of certain GOTV efforts. But we have a lot of new players and Senators as well.

This was a very crucial ingredient in the Atlasian Renaissance. New players. Most people involved in those two parties were new players. There were exceptions, and I suppose I wasn't technically new (as I joined in 2004, but I was a joke player for so long I may as well have been new).

I think the biggest problem we had with the JCP/RPP is that we often just recycled the same old people. Newbies felt like they had to play second fiddle to veterans. But the truth is as JCP Chair I often struggled to find candidates. It was frustrating, I had the votes but not the candidates. I was always happy when I had a new player to run for office. But in odd years, and a mid-term that was not good for progressives, there often weren't many people for me to attempt to recruit.

I'm hoping the timing of the dissolution will work out. This being a website dedicated to presidential elections, one of which is happening this year, we should see a surge in new forum members through November. We've already seen a lot of new people like Clarence join and get involved in Atlasia. We need to make sure we take advantage of all of the new posters who will be joining our forum.

Atlasia is in need of a fairly delicate balance. We need people who understand the most basic dynamics of this game, and those people will most likely be veterans, but we also need room to let new players grow. I think it's safe to say Comrade Tweed and I understand how Atlasia works, but we've already had our fun with party machines and what not (me with the JCP, Tweed with the AFDNC). I know I won't be motivated by that, and I doubt Tweed will either considering he's in a one man party.

The Tweed/Bgwah Regime will hopefully steer Atlasia through this critical time, providing guidance to new players and reminding us all what it is that makes this game thrive. This ticket isn't about us. This ticket is about reinvigorating Atlasia.
I thought pming players for turnout was discouraged...


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: bgwah on April 24, 2012, 02:15:22 AM
Since when? :P


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on April 24, 2012, 02:25:47 AM
Idk but that's what I thought it was like since I joined during the dissolution and only got one PM from Pacific governor about voting on some regional bill.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on April 24, 2012, 02:58:54 AM
So where is the update by the way?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 24, 2012, 06:49:40 AM

Tweed needs to constantly amuse his ego, which is the only remarkable thing about him.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Insula Dei on April 24, 2012, 11:34:29 AM

Tweed needs to constantly amuse his ego, which is the only remarkable thing about him.

An admirable quality, I'd say.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on April 25, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
would like to thank my subcomandante for the apologia and other remarks.



as for those who are looking for me to say something, or even to speak to me.  on the latter, I am here as I am always.  no scheduled release date on the next campaign statement or video -- I have to wait for the passion to strike and to brim over.  this is an emotional exercise, as much as some of you would like to make it some intellectual, technocratic thing.  so I will wait.  same thing I told this girl in October 2008.  we made this deal that the first one to masturbate had to do something for the other.  so obviously I lost within 65 hours.  she made me write a poem about her.  for two weeks I wrote nothing.  she was disappointed.  but I explained, I had to wait, had to wait, until I could "see it".  and then it came!  17 year old fool that I was, I titled it 'Nicotine Free Saturday Nights'.  but she loved it anyway.  there were some good parts, some stupid parts.  my favorite line: your warmth, once a novelty, fades into comfort as we drift.


in Tweedist Atlasia, we will all be at once warm and novel, and every Saturday night will be nicotine-free.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: LastVoter on April 25, 2012, 04:13:12 AM
would like to thank my subcomandante for the apologia and other remarks.



as for those who are looking for me to say something, or even to speak to me.  on the latter, I am here as I am always.  no scheduled release date on the next campaign statement or video -- I have to wait for the passion to strike and to brim over.  this is an emotional exercise, as much as some of you would like to make it some intellectual, technocratic thing.  so I will wait.  same thing I told this girl in October 2008.  we made this deal that the first one to masturbate had to do something for the other.  so obviously I lost within 65 hours.  she made me write a poem about her.  for two weeks I wrote nothing.  she was disappointed.  but I explained, I had to wait, had to wait, until I could "see it".  and then it came!  17 year old fool that I was, I titled it 'Nicotine Free Saturday Nights'.  but she loved it anyway.  there were some good parts, some stupid parts.  my favorite line: your warmth, once a novelty, fades into comfort as we drift.


in Tweedist Atlasia, we will all be at once warm and novel, and every Saturday night will be nicotine-free.
Do you plan to try or should I just preference the Liberal candidate higher than you?
Bgwah you should run on a Labor ticket.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on April 25, 2012, 04:19:02 AM
try what?  'seriously' try to win, run a serious campaign, or whatever?  that's up to the electorate more than anything; I can guarantee you that if I do win, I would very much try to pump as much blood and amphetamines into this sh**t, my long lost child, as I could get my hands on.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Simfan34 on April 27, 2012, 10:12:18 AM
As an ostensibly "rich" person owning a Capital Region country estate and a Upper East Side townhouse, and an entrepreneur, what will President Tweed do for me- or not do to me?

Perhaps what Atlasia needs is a real-life Business Plot. Or at the least, a President Clarence or Constine.


Title: The Necessity of Politics: A Plea to the Left
Post by: © tweed on April 27, 2012, 11:08:33 AM
The daily struggle for reforms, for the amelioration of the condition of the workers within the framework of the existing social order, and for democratic institutions, offers to the Social-Democracy an indissoluble tie. The struggle for reforms is its means; the social revolution, its aim. Rosa Luxemberg, Reform or Revolution


Critics have noted the fantastic quality of my hitherto campaign.  An unapologetic disavowal of the Present, including its structures that are held so dear; and an emotional, though sometimes nebulous, fusion between the Old (ie, Atlasia before preferential voting spawned the UAC, Feb.-Apr. 2004) and an undefined Future.  This I referred to as “a systematic fusion of the reactionary-cultural with the revolutionary-political”.  This is the one-sentence definition of Tweedism, insofar as such a Symbolic construct can hold meaning.

And, of course, attempting to introduce a new system of thought that calls for nothing less than a disavowal of the present order, and naming it after myself, was bound to make a few enemies.  This is not a surprising occurrence; it’s been long accounted-for.  No, what may be a touch surprising to the untrained eye is that much of the resistance I face comes from within the ostensible ‘Left’. 

--

A crucial question: is this a time for Popular Frontism, or can we make-do with a split on the Left?  Here the lessons of the 1930s, and of the tragic Stalinist Third Period, hold enduring value.  It was through a split of the reformist- and –revolutionary left that fascism swept Europe.  And it was through the successive Inflection point of Popular Frontism that we saw the first building blocks of the welfare state and industrial unionism in the United States, that shook the bourgeois to its core (and led a more imaginative sect within the class to ponder an overt fascism, as we now see with Simfan’s entertainment of a Business Plot).

And here, I tell you plainly and openly, with a mix of dismay and emotional control: the conditions are not ripe for the Tweedist revolution.  This is clear.  I firmly believe that it is a historical and existential inevitability, that if Atlasia is to survive, it will have to become re-integrated with the community at-large, and will have to endure a serious and painful re-thinking of the structures it uses to define itself.  But, despite the pitiful turnout in the Midterms, and despite the success of Tweedism in altering the terms and conditions of discussion (I will note that the factions on the Left that oppose Tweedism, define themselves in large part through their explicit opposition), the structures by-and-large are holding on, will continue to exist in the immediate future, and must be confronted on their own totalitarian terms.

Another thing is painfully clear, and motivates this shift in Tweedism above all-else: imaginative solutions will not come from the Whig-Right.  Clarence’s useless, platitudinous ranting provides us will all the evidence we need to consider this a truism.  We must go on from here.

So with this, I call for the beginnings of a move towards a Left Popular-Frontism.  This beginning does not begin with resignation to preconceived points or ideas, it begins with a dialog.  And I extend an open invitation to a serious discussion between the Tweedists, the Labor Party, and the segment of the Liberal Party currently aligned with Napoleon, to develop a plan of action.

Verily,
Young Tweed. 


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 27, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
I will be posting my platform by the weekend- see if you can call that platitudinous Young Tweed


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Simfan34 on April 27, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
The party system must continue to be amended to allow for the continuation of our multiparty system- it should be strengthened, not confined to two. The right is also divided- there is the Moderate Party, the IFP, and of course our own Whigs. The Whigs represent a new tendency in the right, a desire for a more compassionate conservatism, one rejecting the "libertarian-wilderness" tendencies of the old Right, and supporting a more organic, community based conservatism. Indeed, we were once the Communitarian Party, and if I were to have my way it would still be known as such- but we are democratic.

It too opposed the party dissolution, but Atlasians have made their bed, now they must lie in it, and it is likely they want to. Certainly to me the cultural reactionary-ism of Tweedism is appealing- and perhaps to my fellow Whigs as well- but the authoritarian tendencies of Tweedism and its opposition to the capitalist process would do nothing but destroy our state. It can and should be reformed- indeed, but the model that has brought us prosperity should not be discarded. This is what we should be mindful of.

I would join with you, Tweed, in your call for the reintegration of Atlasia with the community of the Atlas Forum, but of course Atlasia is a real, corporeal, nation. However we disagree as to how to get there.

And no, I was not seriously suggesting a coup. But again I ask you: what shall be my fate in a Tweedist Atlasia?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on May 01, 2012, 10:48:11 AM
since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.


May 7: campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi.  guest speaker: Art Laffer

May 9: Denton, Texas.  Teenage Cool Kids (http://www.myspace.com/teenagecoolkids) will be performing

May 11: will be meeting up with bgwah at an undisclosed location in King County.  then after that we will buy a cheap megaphone and scream things at the site of the old Kingdome.  guest speaker: Dean Logan


you get the idea



Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on May 01, 2012, 02:45:17 PM
since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.

I get no credit :(


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Donerail on May 01, 2012, 04:10:09 PM
since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.


May 7: campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi.  guest speaker: Art Laffer

May 9: Denton, Texas.  Teenage Cool Kids (http://www.myspace.com/teenagecoolkids) will be performing

May 11: will be meeting up with bgwah at an undisclosed location in King County.  then after that we will buy a cheap megaphone and scream things at the site of the old Kingdome.  guest speaker: Dean Logan


you get the idea



Why is Art Laffer speaking on behalf of a candidate of the CPoA (M-L-T)? Wasn't he a Reagan-area economist who pretty much invented supply-side economics?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Sbane on May 01, 2012, 04:40:50 PM
since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.


May 7: campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi.  guest speaker: Art Laffer

May 9: Denton, Texas.  Teenage Cool Kids (http://www.myspace.com/teenagecoolkids) will be performing

May 11: will be meeting up with bgwah at an undisclosed location in King County.  then after that we will buy a cheap megaphone and scream things at the site of the old Kingdome.  guest speaker: Dean Logan


you get the idea



Why is Art Laffer speaking on behalf of a candidate of the CPoA (M-L-T)? Wasn't he a Reagan-area economist who pretty much invented supply-side economics?

Did you not notice he is starting his campaign in Philadelphia, MS like Ronald Reagan did. The city was where  three civil rights workers were murdered in 1964. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers_murders) Pure coincidence, surely. ::) Can't have a campaign without visiting some backwater village of 7,000 people in Mississippi.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Simfan34 on May 01, 2012, 04:43:19 PM
Such things are integral parameters of the nature of Tweedism.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Donerail on May 01, 2012, 04:47:55 PM
since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.


May 7: campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi.  guest speaker: Art Laffer

May 9: Denton, Texas.  Teenage Cool Kids (http://www.myspace.com/teenagecoolkids) will be performing

May 11: will be meeting up with bgwah at an undisclosed location in King County.  then after that we will buy a cheap megaphone and scream things at the site of the old Kingdome.  guest speaker: Dean Logan


you get the idea



Why is Art Laffer speaking on behalf of a candidate of the CPoA (M-L-T)? Wasn't he a Reagan-area economist who pretty much invented supply-side economics?

Did you not notice he is starting his campaign in Philadelphia, MS like Ronald Reagan did. The city was where  three civil rights workers were murdered in 1964. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers_murders) Pure coincidence, surely. ::) Can't have a campaign without visiting some backwater village of 7,000 people in Mississippi.

I did notice something of that sort, but he's also going to the eleventh largest city in the Ft. Worth area and part of his campaign strategy is screaming at people with a megaphone, so I wrote it off as rather inconsequential.


Title: Tweed Speaks: the Rehabilitation of Passion
Post by: © tweed on May 02, 2012, 08:53:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79K6pWgbLo&feature=youtu.be


warning: use of adult language.


Title: Re: Tweed Speaks: the Rehabilitation of Passion
Post by: Insula Dei on May 02, 2012, 09:12:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79K6pWgbLo&feature=youtu.be


warning: use of adult language.

Makes some very valid points. More importantly, who would you appoint to your cabinet?


Title: Re: Tweed Speaks: the Rehabilitation of Passion
Post by: © tweed on May 02, 2012, 09:16:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79K6pWgbLo&feature=youtu.be


warning: use of adult language.

Makes some very valid points. More importantly, who would you appoint to your cabinet?

one of my main problems with Atlasia is the over-abundance of jobs, so many offices would be left vacant: the rest filled with the people I most trust.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 02, 2012, 09:21:47 AM
Good video- Tweed... I agree with much of what you said and my campaign is based off of a similar idea...but less about my personality- more about my politics firing people up to oppose me


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on May 02, 2012, 03:20:01 PM
It's pronounced "kal-vait" :P

Anyway, great video, Tweed. You really do care about this place a lot and it's inspiring.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Napoleon on May 03, 2012, 12:09:48 AM
Young Tweed, I finally got around to watching your latest video and I have a few comments.

You note animosity between yourself and Kalwejt. Interestingly, to me at least, is that your running mate "Bald Motherer" and I have traditionally been political allies.

Your video actually does raise my opinion of you (as a candidate, I have always liked you as a poster), despite your improper characterization of my candidacy, and in part because I think the positive attributes you are applying to yourself can be applied to me. Therefore, I attribute it to ignorance as opposed to malice. In fact, you can apply that label to others and be correct for the most part, but I am curious if bgwah agrees that a Napoleon presidency would be boring or lacking in passion. I once sparked enough passion to score the Worst Senator title (with 45% of Atlasians voting me as the worst) to now holding an 85% approval rating as Northeast Governor,  which to me says a lot more than "Meh".

I find Atlasia to be a game and I play it for fun. Sure I am something of a workhorse, rewriting Constitutions and all that jazz, but so is bgwah, who really put in good work on the Wiki, and we don't do it because I expect to be rewarded for it in someway, we do it so the game works and others can have fun too.

There are enough moderate heroes, if I cared about being respected or pleasing the most people, I would have probably bored myself out of this game already and picked a VP less controversial than Kal, who is a great guy by the way and we have had our own bouts of animosity at times. I do care about being a good, or great even, President if elected but not at the cost of what you correctly label "passion". I won't go around creating false controversies but you can be damn sure that I will stick to my guns. I think anyone would back me up on this, even my haters.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on May 10, 2012, 10:15:18 PM
Young Tweed, is here.  he has been thinking, he will offer more, very soon.  about uselectionatlas.org.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on May 11, 2012, 05:41:05 PM
Tweed solidifies his position as the forebear of the First Atlasian Revolution - that which sprung it into existence - with a newly released interview.


https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153429.msg3293537#msg3293537



the preparation done by Junkie in the lead-up to the interview shines through.  when I am elected, I will via Executive Order commission an Atlasian Research Commission which will do original research, conduct interviews (making use of subpoena power where necessary), and bring the history of the Community into the collective consciousness.


Title: Tweed not planning to offer concession
Post by: © tweed on June 24, 2012, 06:25:52 PM
despite the apparent disadvantage in election returns to this point, I will unequivocally state that I will not be conceding the election at 12am EDT, the close of polling.  I ask my double-digit number of supporters to remain with me and the campaign over the next trying sequence of days.  more when polls close.


Title: Re: Tweed not planning to offer concession
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on June 24, 2012, 11:00:01 PM
despite the apparent disadvantage in election returns to this point, I will unequivocally state that I will not be conceding the election at 12am EDT, the close of polling.  I ask my double-digit number of supporters to remain with me and the campaign over the next trying sequence of days.  more when polls close.

You simply will not go away, will you?


Title: this campaign is not over (brief statement)
Post by: © tweed on June 24, 2012, 11:22:38 PM
a brief statement from the candidate 20 minutes after the polls close.


I have seen statements from Oakvale and Clarence, that they have conceded.  I wish them the best. I, however, reiterate, I am not conceding the June 2012 presidential election.  my campaign team has been researching numerous irregularities we have identified in the voting.  we also have reason to believe serious procedural problems cast doubt upon the results as reported by the election Administrator as well as the lay attempts to tabulate.   

no official action will be taken until the results are certified.


from Huntington Station New York, thank you, and stay tuned.

Tweed, your next president.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Fritz on June 25, 2012, 07:15:56 AM
this should be interesting...


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on June 25, 2012, 07:31:33 AM

Indeed.

Godspeed, Comrade.


Title: Tweed files suit
Post by: © tweed on June 25, 2012, 04:16:48 PM
after careful deliberation, I have submitted a claim to the Supreme Court challenging the results of the June 2012 presidential election.  this claim is eligible for all to view, and to comment on, and can be found here.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=155233



I welcome all discussion as pertains to the suit, but warn that I am unlikely to be able to comment on specific aspects of it until its resolution.

may we all remain civil in this trying and contentious time.


Young Tweed


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: ZuWo on June 25, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
This sounds funny, so good luck. Seeing how Tweedist the Atlasian Supreme Court is, I actually wouldn't be surprised if you were successful with your lawsuit. ;)


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Simfan34 on June 25, 2012, 04:42:42 PM
If the Court makes Tweed president, I swear there shall be a coup.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: ilikeverin on June 25, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
If the Court makes Tweed president, I swear there shall be a coup.

I shall defend Tweedism with my life, so help me Dave!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on June 25, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
I supported you in the past because you actually had the balls to declare revolution. I'm not going to support your attempt to hide behind the Supreme Court.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Donerail on June 25, 2012, 10:05:04 PM
This sounds funny, so good luck. Seeing how Tweedist the Atlasian Supreme Court is, I actually wouldn't be surprised if you were successful with your lawsuit. ;)

I would assume Bgwah would have to recuse himself, given the conflict of interest?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: minionofmidas on June 26, 2012, 05:49:16 AM
If the Court makes Tweed president, I swear there shall be a coup.
D'you mean two?

Anyways, I can't believe I forgot to vote. :(


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: minionofmidas on June 26, 2012, 05:51:54 AM
Also...

I, as a citizen and candidate in the June 2012 presidential election, sue in an attempt to overturn the results of said election as certified by the DoFE and its Secretary, homelycooking.  the certified results can be found:

(text omitted for aesthetic purposes, click above to see)

I file two separate claims, insofar as this is possible.

first, as regards jurisdiction: the Supreme Court has unequivocal power to decide the outcome of a federal election as it sees fit, pursuant to Article III, Section 1, clause 5 of the Third Constitution, which reads as follows:

The Supreme Court shall arbitrate in all disputes concerning federal elections.

CLAIM 1:  the Certification of Napoleon as victor of the June 2012 presidential election, as opposed to Young Tweed, is in violation of Preamble of the Third Constitution, namely, the General Welfare and "equality for all forum members" clauses.  the Preamble reads as follows:

We the People of the Republic of Atlasia, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, support equality for all forum membersand secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Republic of Atlasia.

I seek Supreme Court certification of Young Tweed as the victor of the June 2012 presidential election pursuant to a careful reading of the above text.

CLAIM 2: the Certification of Napoleon as victor of the June 2012 presidential election, as opposed to Young Tweed, is in violation of Clauses 30 and 31, Article 1, Section 5, which read as follows:

30. To protect the Public Health and commerce by making such regulations as shall be necessary for the protection of those in employment.
31. To protect the Public Health, commerce and heritage by making such regulations as shall be necessary for the protection and preservation of natural beauty, biological diversity and other natural resources.


I seek Supreme Court certification of Young Tweed as the victor of the June 2012 presidential election pursuant to a careful reading of the above text.

__

may Chief Justice Ebowed step forward and grant Certiorari.

He totally forgot about the "insure domestic tranquility" part. That clearly implants Tweed as President for life and bans the disruptive practice of elections. I fail to see any other possible interpretation.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Insula Dei on June 26, 2012, 09:59:42 AM
It's good to see some people at least show respect for our sacred constitution. What would the founding fathers of this, the Third Atlasian Republic, say were they to see how little their wisdom is respected today?


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on June 26, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
It's good to see some people at least show respect for our sacred constitution. What would the founding fathers of this, the Third Atlasian Republic, say were they to see how little their wisdom is respected today?

You really are a dangerous person. On behalf of the entire Northeast, I'm ashamed you managed to get 8 votes.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Insula Dei on June 26, 2012, 02:54:34 PM
So it begins. First we brand those who oppose us 'dangerous', 'stains on our nation', then we find that we may have to abolish democracy to save it (to use a tired Bush-era cliché).

Atlasian Liberalism appearantly in the process of showing it's real face.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 26, 2012, 03:03:47 PM
'Obnoxious' is probably a more accurate term, but yeah, 'dangerous' works, too.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: ilikeverin on June 26, 2012, 03:38:15 PM
It's good to see some people at least show respect for our sacred constitution. What would the founding fathers of this, the Third Atlasian Republic, say were they to see how little their wisdom is respected today?

Hey now, I'm a Founding Father of the Third Atlasian Republic, and I know Tweedism is the future >:(


Title: Tweed on the return and wishes of Purple State
Post by: © tweed on June 26, 2012, 11:46:29 PM
I am overjoyed to announce the return, however brief, of our esteemed former President and author of the Third Constitution, Purple State, and his remarks in favor of Petitioner Tweed in the ongoing Young Tweed v. Department of Federal Elections (emphasis added).

I have but three letters to say:

LOL

Seriously though, even if it is frivolous as all hell, Tweed's suit is simply a stroke of genius.

I will reappear (very briefly) from my extended walk into the sunset to echo this. Leave it to the true creator of the very idea of Atlasia to provide such a brilliant effort to return excitement to the game.

I would support the lawsuit if it leads to a reset of Atlasia(constitutional convention), not just an amendment.

As the chair of the two previous Constitutional Conventions and author of the current Constitution, I can tell you that the idea of a "true reset" is nonsense that is peddled every few months. The game thrives on its history--one that includes many of the greatest posters this forum has ever seen. That is why the Boss's suit is so sound. You don't really want a reset... you want a shakeup. That's what this is and I support it.

now we have it straight from the horse's mouth: the author of the Constitution confirms the veracity of my argument now before the Court, and supports me in my attempt to assume my rightful mantle as president.

may we all rejoice that he has graced us once more -- and rejoice all the more, that he has done so in an unambiguously Tweedist fashion.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Napoleon on June 27, 2012, 01:16:41 AM
Hmph. The former President is no match for my band of orange thugs!


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on June 27, 2012, 01:30:00 AM
Tweed will never recieve my support in the future.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: Napoleon on June 27, 2012, 01:35:09 AM
Tweed will never recieve my support in the future.

Tweed is the suburban youth form of Heath Ledger's Joker.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 27, 2012, 07:36:53 AM
Tweed needs a life, ASAP.


Title: Re: Tweed on the return and wishes of Purple State
Post by: minionofmidas on June 27, 2012, 08:02:55 AM
I am overjoyed to announce the return, however brief, of our esteemed former President and author of the Third Constitution, Purple State, and his remarks in favor of Petitioner Tweed in the ongoing Young Tweed v. Department of Federal Elections (emphasis added).

I have but three letters to say:

LOL

Seriously though, even if it is frivolous as all hell, Tweed's suit is simply a stroke of genius.

I will reappear (very briefly) from my extended walk into the sunset to echo this. Leave it to the true creator of the very idea of Atlasia to provide such a brilliant effort to return excitement to the game.

I would support the lawsuit if it leads to a reset of Atlasia(constitutional convention), not just an amendment.

As the chair of the two previous Constitutional Conventions and author of the current Constitution, I can tell you that the idea of a "true reset" is nonsense that is peddled every few months. The game thrives on its history--one that includes many of the greatest posters this forum has ever seen. That is why the Boss's suit is so sound. You don't really want a reset... you want a shakeup. That's what this is and I support it.

now we have it straight from the horse's mouth: the author of the Constitution confirms the veracity of my argument now before the Court, and supports me in my attempt to assume my rightful mantle as president.

may we all rejoice that he has graced us once more -- and rejoice all the more, that he has done so in an unambiguously Tweedist fashion.
I appear to have completely forgotten this poster.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: ilikeverin on June 27, 2012, 08:07:51 AM
I am overjoyed to announce the return, however brief, of our esteemed former President and author of the Third Constitution, Purple State, and his remarks in favor of Petitioner Tweed in the ongoing Young Tweed v. Department of Federal Elections (emphasis added).

I have but three letters to say:

LOL

Seriously though, even if it is frivolous as all hell, Tweed's suit is simply a stroke of genius.

I will reappear (very briefly) from my extended walk into the sunset to echo this. Leave it to the true creator of the very idea of Atlasia to provide such a brilliant effort to return excitement to the game.

I would support the lawsuit if it leads to a reset of Atlasia(constitutional convention), not just an amendment.

As the chair of the two previous Constitutional Conventions and author of the current Constitution, I can tell you that the idea of a "true reset" is nonsense that is peddled every few months. The game thrives on its history--one that includes many of the greatest posters this forum has ever seen. That is why the Boss's suit is so sound. You don't really want a reset... you want a shakeup. That's what this is and I support it.

now we have it straight from the horse's mouth: the author of the Constitution confirms the veracity of my argument now before the Court, and supports me in my attempt to assume my rightful mantle as president.

may we all rejoice that he has graced us once more -- and rejoice all the more, that he has done so in an unambiguously Tweedist fashion.
I appear to have completely forgotten this poster.

Unfortunate.  Purple State was one of the best n00bs.


Title: Re: Tweed for President 06/12 campaign HQ
Post by: © tweed on June 27, 2012, 10:26:40 PM
this thread will be 'branched off' momentarily.  this post is a placeholder.