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Title: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/obama-muslim-evolution-fake-amp-rush-limbaugh-great-republican-voters-poll-article-1.1037530?localLinksEnabled=false

Discuss.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 13, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
Because parts of the Deep South has been stuck in 1861 and have no intention on moving forward. Remember, while the former Confederacy constitutes a little more than a quarter of the American population, "the South will rise again!."


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Because parts of the Deep South has been stuck in 1861 and have no intention on moving forward. Remember, while the former Confederacy constitutes a little more than a quarter of the American population, "the South will rise again!."

I'm being facetious, to be fair.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: TomC on March 13, 2012, 01:04:54 PM
To be fair, they are only saying that's what they believe. It doesn't mean they actually believe it. Many of them are just choosing the answer that they think makes Obama look the worst.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Torie on March 13, 2012, 01:05:12 PM
Because they want to believe it, and their beliefs are often detached from anything that might be fact based.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: TomC on March 13, 2012, 01:12:05 PM
Yeah, I'm sure some are ignorant and some are just mean liars.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Peeperkorn on March 13, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Idiocy and ignorance.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Likely Voter on March 13, 2012, 01:23:14 PM
Occam's Razor...they're ignorant bigots


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Hash on March 13, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
It's the new way they found of saying that they hate Obama because he's black.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on March 13, 2012, 02:23:41 PM
It's because he was educated in a madrassa in Indonesia. This isn't exactly hard, folks.

Oh and stuff like, "I believe the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world?" Dude, wtf?


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Oakvale on March 13, 2012, 02:44:56 PM
It's the new way they found of saying that they hate Obama because he's black.

^ Basically.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: pbrower2a on March 13, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
1. These Republican voters are obviously very white. The GOP is essentially the White People's Party in Alabama and Mississippi and the Democratic Party is effectively the Black People's Party in those two states -- an ugly situation. Think of the old Yugoslavia when you think of the South. The Serbs and Croats spoke essentially the same language but at least looked enough alike.

2. Protestant fundamentalism is very strong in the South. As the "ultimate, exotic, ultra-liberal, intellectual" Democrat President Obama may seem the Antichrist to many southern white people. So he must be part of the Ultimate Danger by creed. Forty years ago that creed would have been Marxism-Leninism. But Marxism-Leninism is now dead as a threat to the US; President Obama must be a Muslim.

3. These two states have horrible records in education. I can only imagine the high-school dropout rate.      


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Svensson on March 13, 2012, 02:48:03 PM
Inbreeding.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: DrScholl on March 13, 2012, 02:49:00 PM
Because they are not too smart and also willfully ignorant.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2012, 02:49:40 PM
It's because he was educated in a madrassa in Indonesia. This isn't exactly hard, folks.

Oh and stuff like, "I believe the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world?" Dude, wtf?

Why at a higher rate in Mississippi and Alabama than America at large?


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: tpfkaw on March 13, 2012, 02:56:21 PM
You would get similar numbers if you asked if he's an atheist, Hindu, Buddhist, gay, a murderer, a child molester, etc.

(I do also recall that PPP had much higher numbers last year than other pollsters for the percentage of Republican "birthers").


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: © tweed on March 13, 2012, 03:04:05 PM
Because they want to believe it, and their beliefs are often detached from anything that might be fact based.

sort of this:  most normal people do not hold themselves to high standards of internal consistency on socio-political issues, unlike the average Atlasian.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 13, 2012, 03:07:19 PM
It's the new way they found of saying that they hate Obama because he's black.

No. It's because he's a halfbreed.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Tidewater_Wave on March 13, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
liberal polling= brainwashing

No GOP actually thinks Obama is a Muslim. This is just another attempt from the far left to demonize and patronize those who think differently.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on March 13, 2012, 04:15:16 PM
liberal polling= brainwashing

No GOP actually thinks Obama is a Muslim. This is just another attempt from the far left to demonize and patronize those who think differently.

Actually, a large number of Republicans do indeed think that. This is just another attempt from the far right to defend idiocy and bigotry.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 13, 2012, 04:19:21 PM
liberal polling= brainwashing

No GOP actually thinks Obama is a Muslim. This is just another attempt from the far left to demonize and patronize those who think differently.

How are you, Derek?


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on March 13, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
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Why at a higher rate in Mississippi and Alabama than America at large?

Higher percentage of people born in America?


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 13, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
It's because he was educated in a madrassa in Indonesia.

How many AL/MS GOP rednecks do actually know that ?


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: morgieb on March 13, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Idiots/****wits, obv.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: 7,052,770 on March 13, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
It's because he was educated in a madrassa in Indonesia. This isn't exactly hard, folks.

Oh and stuff like, "I believe the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world?" Dude, wtf?

Why at a higher rate in Mississippi and Alabama than America at large?

Lack of education and the Southern Baptist faith.  Quite simple really.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Tidewater_Wave on March 13, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
It's because he was educated in a madrassa in Indonesia. This isn't exactly hard, folks.

Oh and stuff like, "I believe the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world?" Dude, wtf?

Why at a higher rate in Mississippi and Alabama than America at large?

Lack of education and the Southern Baptist faith.  Quite simple really.

If I were a Democrat I'd be allowed to call you a racist.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 13, 2012, 10:03:39 PM
A lot of them probably just answered that in a poll as a way to voice their disapproval of the president without actually believing it.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Tidewater_Wave on March 15, 2012, 10:21:07 PM
liberal polling= brainwashing

No GOP actually thinks Obama is a Muslim. This is just another attempt from the far left to demonize and patronize those who think differently.

Actually, a large number of Republicans do indeed think that. This is just another attempt from the far right to defend idiocy and bigotry.

It can go both ways. What about the number of Democrats who think Bush was involved in 9/11?


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on March 15, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
I would wager lower than half, even in Hawaii and Vermont.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: minionofmidas on March 18, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
liberal polling= brainwashing

No GOP actually thinks Obama is a Muslim. This is just another attempt from the far left to demonize and patronize those who think differently.

Actually, a large number of Republicans do indeed think that. This is just another attempt from the far right to defend idiocy and bigotry.

It can go both ways. What about the number of Democrats who think Bush was involved in 9/11?
Never polled quite as high, and is not quite as absurd an idea, but yes, your general point stands. Of course, the reason either way is...
A lot of them probably just answered that in a poll as a way to voice their disapproval of the president without actually believing it.
Except "disapproval" is too weak a word.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Willy Woz on March 20, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
Honestly, I think it's an intelligence thing. To a lot of people of little brain Obama sounds a lot like Osama. I go to the University of Alabama and I can assure you there are a lot of semi-literate people in this state, and even more in Mississippi. MS was ranked as having an average IQ of 93 in a nation-wide survey, while the US overall had an IQ of about 100. A lot of people don't really think that hard.



Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on March 20, 2012, 11:43:28 PM
It's because he was educated in a madrassa in Indonesia. This isn't exactly hard, folks.

Oh and stuff like, "I believe the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world?" Dude, wtf?

a) it's not a madrassa, it's was a private school - it's like the difference between a Catholic School and a Seminary... I went to a Catholic school for a time... I'm not Catholic. He was then sent to a public secular school... so PLEASE get a clue and stop reading RW bs.

b) Have you ever heard the call to prayer in person? I have, and despite my sheer disagreement with much of the religion... it is actually quite beautiful to hear.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on March 20, 2012, 11:49:53 PM
I think the call to prayer is definitely in the top ten most beautiful, after the mountain wind, the sea wind, some kinds of seagulls, and maybe some of my favorite hymns (my top three are 'Adam Lay Ybownden', the Boris Ord setting; 'Forty Days and Forty Nights'; and 'Singing Songs of Expectation', all of which strike me as extremely Anglican culturally so I don't know if Ben would know any of them).

/totally germane contribution


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 25, 2012, 03:35:17 PM
If we're talking about sounds of prayer, my personal preference is for the sound of the whole congregation saying "Amen" in unison at the end of Al-Fatihah.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: courts on March 25, 2012, 09:08:54 PM
I think we all know what they really want to say he is...


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: 7,052,770 on March 25, 2012, 11:19:35 PM
MS was ranked as having an average IQ of 93 in a nation-wide survey, while the US overall had an IQ of about 100. A lot of people don't really think that hard.

That has been debunked many times over.  All 50 states are within a point or 2 of 100.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: courts on March 26, 2012, 10:44:26 AM
MS was ranked as having an average IQ of 93 in a nation-wide survey, while the US overall had an IQ of about 100. A lot of people don't really think that hard.

That has been debunked many times over.  All 50 states are within a point or 2 of 100.

Yeah, because 98 is so much better.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: 7,052,770 on March 26, 2012, 06:54:20 PM
MS was ranked as having an average IQ of 93 in a nation-wide survey, while the US overall had an IQ of about 100. A lot of people don't really think that hard.

That has been debunked many times over.  All 50 states are within a point or 2 of 100.

Yeah, because 98 is so much better.
Of course it is.  If Mississippi were 93 and some other state were 108, then there would be a state out there with a full standard deviation of IQ higher than us.

Luckily, that's all BS.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: memphis on March 29, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
There is a basic disconnect between Republicans, particularly Southern rural ones, and reality. They're not interested in facts. They're interested in dogma. The wide-eyed true-believer faith of lower taxes, creationism, victimology, and xenophobia. It's a very shallow world filled with theraputic alienation.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 30, 2012, 12:42:29 PM
There is a basic disconnect between Republicans, particularly Southern rural ones, and reality. They're not interested in facts. They're interested in dogma. The wide-eyed true-believer faith of lower taxes, creationism, victimology, and xenophobia. It's a very shallow world filled with theraputic alienation.

I think this might be the worst case of alienation in a non-totalitarian country.


Title: Re: Why do 52% of MS GOPers and 48% AL GOPers think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on April 20, 2012, 10:11:54 PM
Let's just say those states are the most anti-media, anti-education, pro-religion, and pro-homogeneity states in the union.