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Title: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: tpfkaw on March 18, 2012, 08:07:37 PM
So apparently Cuomo has a higher approval rating among Republicans and conservatives than Democrats and liberals.  What if Cuomo loses the Democratic primary to a more liberal challenger, but wins the Independence Party line and decides to run with it?  Could a 3-way race develop?


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: ag on March 19, 2012, 12:39:19 AM
Cuomo will not loose the Dem line, period. Which other lines he'd run on, is another matter.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas on March 27, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
NY Dems are not suicidal. But if it happened, there's no strong Republican challenger. Running as an independent, he would beat the Republican and Democratic nominees with something like 55% in a three-way race.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: Miles on April 01, 2012, 04:47:04 AM
I thought liberals really like Eric Schneiderman. Maybe he could primary Cuomo from the left in that scenario.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: RodPresident on April 01, 2012, 09:38:58 PM
A good way to destroy Cuomo's presidential ambitions for Democratic Party.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: ag on April 02, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
For Cuomo to loose that primary, he'd have to be discovered in a bed w/ a dead boy - neither the dead girl, nor the live boy would do it.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: morgieb on April 02, 2012, 04:22:59 AM
I say it's a chance. They'd be insane to do it though.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: tpfkaw on April 02, 2012, 09:12:05 AM
I don't think it's that unrealistic, given that liberals are already lukewarm on him.  If his approvals drop 20 points or so (below the average decline for recent NY Dems...), I could easily see him losing the primary.

What would be interesting is who would get the WFP line in this scenario.  I assume whoever loses it would attempt to resurrect the Liberal Party line.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: ag on April 02, 2012, 07:07:31 PM
Why would any reasonable NY Dem primary Cuomo? He is a very successful incumbent w/ real achievements on his party side (did anyone say "gay marriage"?) - and he is not really hated, just, may be, slightly annoying to some. Even to mount a serious challenge would be extremely costly. And to do this merely to run a serious risk of electing a Republican in a race that should be safe Dem? What's, exactly, the point?


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: tpfkaw on April 02, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
The point would be narcissism, as motivates every office-seeker.  It's not like there's a deficit of it in the state of New York.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: morgieb on April 02, 2012, 08:59:53 PM
I can see Cuomo losing the WFP line.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: ag on April 02, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
The point would be narcissism, as motivates every office-seeker.  It's not like there's a deficit of it in the state of New York.

It would have to be narcissism in combination w/ idiocy and complete lack of political judgement. Dismissing such a distinguished challenge shouldn't be hard.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: bgwah on April 03, 2012, 01:31:53 AM
Didn't Cuomo himself get bitch-slapped when he tried running for Governor before his turn?


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: © tweed on April 07, 2012, 11:58:22 AM
Why would any reasonable NY Dem primary Cuomo? He is a very successful incumbent w/ real achievements on his party side (did anyone say "gay marriage"?) - and he is not really hated, just, may be, slightly annoying to some. Even to mount a serious challenge would be extremely costly. And to do this merely to run a serious risk of electing a Republican in a race that should be safe Dem? What's, exactly, the point?

he is certainly hated by education unions and elements of the activist-progressive infrastructure.  however they will not stand in his way.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 17, 2012, 01:00:18 AM
While I'm no Cuomo fan, he'd win. The best the Democrats could hope for is the results to match the 2006 CT Senate race.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: Napoleon on April 20, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Not going to happen, though Cuomo's Nixon-esque sensitivity to criticism would make a serious primary challenge a good show.

He's Italian, not insane...


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: Erc on April 23, 2012, 02:58:28 PM
While I'm no Cuomo fan, he'd win. The best the Democrats could hope for is the results to match the 2006 CT Senate race.

New York Republicans also hate Cuomo; he's no Joe Lieberman.  Even in this crazy scenario, generic R still has a 25% floor.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: hopper on April 23, 2012, 04:11:32 PM
Coumo is doing a good job. Don't hate on him. He is doing all the right things. Replacing the state's flat income tax with a progressive income tax maybe a catch 22 though.


Title: Re: Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
Post by: Smash255 on April 23, 2012, 10:37:30 PM
His approval with Dems is basically double if not triple what Lieberman had, its not even remotely in the same ballpark....