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Title: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana possession Post by: Simfan34 on March 26, 2012, 02:41:43 PM Quote The Florida neighbourhood watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin told police that the teenager punched him to the ground and began pounding his head into the pavement, it has emerged. Martin was shot dead a month ago by George Zimmerman, who had called 911 to say he had spotted the teenager acting suspiciously in his gated community. Martin, 17, was returning to his father's girlfriend's house from the local convenience store armed only with iced tea and a packet of Skittles. Details of Zimmerman's account came as a spokesman for Martin's family disclosed that he was serving a suspension from his school in Miami after traces of marijuana residue were found in his book bag. "We maintain that regardless of the specific reason for the suspension, it's got nothing to do with the events that unfolded on February 26," Ryan Julison said. Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said Monday that unnamed investigators were trying to destroy her son's reputation. Sanford police say it's possible the information was leaked to the media, but it was not authorised. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/26/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-police-report?newsfeed=true Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: minionofmidas on March 26, 2012, 02:44:09 PM How is that relevant?
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 26, 2012, 02:51:07 PM How is that relevant? For character assassination purposes. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: minionofmidas on March 26, 2012, 02:53:34 PM How is that relevant? For character assassination purposes. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 26, 2012, 02:54:50 PM It is not relevant to the facts of the case...but does disprove the media claims that Trayvon was a "model student"
As I have said- I believe Zimmerman should be arrested from what I know of the case... but this has been taken into overdrive and he has been given trial by media when the facts are still murky... Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: © tweed on March 26, 2012, 02:58:27 PM "traces of marijuana residue" =/= to "marijuana dealing"
CaDan would say "stop lying". Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 26, 2012, 02:59:50 PM It is not relevant to the facts of the case...but does disprove the media claims that Trayvon was a "model student" Academically he was apparently very good and this doesn't exactly make him a horrible delinquent, but totally agreed that he doesn't have to have hagiographies written about him for the person who shot him in the chest under unclear circumstances to be arrested. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on March 26, 2012, 03:03:34 PM Nathan- as usual you are reasonable and I agree...I also want to point out how Zimmerman has been represented as white. He is a Latino or a Mestizo... once again- this does not change the case at all but it shows media looking for a better story
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Nhoj on March 26, 2012, 03:09:00 PM "traces of marijuana residue" =/= to "marijuana dealing" CaDan would say "stop lying". Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 26, 2012, 03:09:28 PM Nathan- as usual you are reasonable and I agree...I also want to point out how Zimmerman has been represented as white. He is a Latino or a Mestizo... once again- this does not change the case at all but it shows media looking for a better story Thing is, admitting that Zimmerman is not in fact a white man doesn't even make the whole race angle go away, since it's entirely possible and indeed rather common for racial friction to exist between blacks and Hispanics. Sadly, the pushing of the white-black dichotomy has damaged the credibility of the entire subject of race relations in this case, which is definitely something that deserves to at least be discussed seriously, among people who aren't already inclined to interpret it that way. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Sbane on March 26, 2012, 03:14:36 PM It is not relevant to the facts of the case...but does disprove the media claims that Trayvon was a "model student" What does smoking weed have to do with being a model student? You can definitely do both. I am appalled by this defense of Zimmerman by character assassination of Martin. That bastard should fry. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Torie on March 26, 2012, 03:17:26 PM Quote What does smoking weed have to do with being a model student? You can definitely do both. What in the world gives you cause to think that, sbane? :P I updated my post on the Obamacare thread by the way on the tax versus fine thing. SCOTUS has given us a clue today. Check it out. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: DrScholl on March 26, 2012, 03:21:07 PM The subject line is incorrect, there is nothing in article that says Martin was dealing drugs, let's keep the facts straight.
It has also come out that Zimmerman pushed his fiancee because she wouldn't give him some papers he wanted, so I think that past history of violence is far more relevant to this case. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 26, 2012, 03:21:19 PM How is that relevant? Because apparently if someone smokes pot, they're a violent criminal. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 26, 2012, 03:48:27 PM ENOUGH! Stop already! Let the poor guy RIP! It's disgusting how some people feel like they can just walk over someone's grave spreading hate.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: fezzyfestoon on March 26, 2012, 03:56:08 PM This is sick
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 26, 2012, 04:25:43 PM I for one believe that all marijuana users are dangerous criminals who deserve to be shot.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 26, 2012, 04:27:29 PM Pot-smoking, hoodie-wearing negroes beware! The neighborhood watch is on the loose again.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Yank2133 on March 26, 2012, 04:37:25 PM Christ, are people that desperate to make Zimmerman look better?
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Oakvale on March 26, 2012, 04:40:10 PM Black people are really scary!
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: The Mikado on March 26, 2012, 04:57:31 PM Again, whatever you say about Martin, the fundamental fact in this case is: Zimmerman started the confrontation, Zimmerman was armed while Martin wasn't, and Zimmerman fatally shot Martin. Period. I don't care if Martin was a delinquent (and there's no real evidence he was): even if he was, it doesn't change the previous sentence.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: J. J. on March 26, 2012, 05:18:13 PM Again, whatever you say about Martin, the fundamental fact in this case is: Zimmerman started the confrontation, I'm not certain of that one; I'd like to see some specifics first. Quote Zimmerman was armed while Martin wasn't, and Zimmerman fatally shot Martin. Period. I don't care if Martin was a delinquent (and there's no real evidence he was): even if he was, it doesn't change the previous sentence. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 28, 2012, 12:01:00 PM It is not relevant to the facts of the case...but does disprove the media claims that Trayvon was a "model student" As I have said- I believe Zimmerman should be arrested from what I know of the case... but this has been taken into overdrive and he has been given trial by media when the facts are still murky... Indirectly, it was quite relevent to the case. Martin was videotaped at his school spray painting the letters "WTF." The next day, his backpack was searched to confiscate any spray paint. While they did not find any spray paint, they did find some women's jewelry, and a screwdriver they described as a burglary tool. They, also, found a bag with traces of marijuana residue. Everybody has just assumed that Zimmerman "racially profiled" Martin. Another possibility is that there was burglary suspect in the neighborhood whom was tall, Black, and very thin, and Zimmerman noticed he fit the description. Another possibility is that Martin was in fact a burglar, and was acting in a suspicious manner. Another possibility is that Martin fit the description of a burglar in Martin's father's neighborhood because Martin was in fact that burglar. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: King on March 28, 2012, 12:17:23 PM Since when is trace amounts of residue intention to distribute?
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: LastVoter on March 28, 2012, 01:04:27 PM I guess Floridian dealers are practicing new cost saving techniques since the Recession.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Joe Republic on March 28, 2012, 01:20:44 PM It is not relevant to the facts of the case...but does disprove the media claims that Trayvon was a "model student" As I have said- I believe Zimmerman should be arrested from what I know of the case... but this has been taken into overdrive and he has been given trial by media when the facts are still murky... Indirectly, it was quite relevent to the case. Martin was videotaped at his school spray painting the letters "WTF." The next day, his backpack was searched to confiscate any spray paint. While they did not find any spray paint, they did find some women's jewelry, and a screwdriver they described as a burglary tool. They, also, found a bag with traces of marijuana residue. Everybody has just assumed that Zimmerman "racially profiled" Martin. Another possibility is that there was burglary suspect in the neighborhood whom was tall, Black, and very thin, and Zimmerman noticed he fit the description. Another possibility is that Martin was in fact a burglar, and was acting in a suspicious manner. Another possibility is that Martin fit the description of a burglar in Martin's father's neighborhood because Martin was in fact that burglar. Plus, black people are indeed very scary people who will most likely mug you and sell drugs to your kids. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 28, 2012, 01:24:30 PM Since when is trace amounts of residue intention to distribute? It isn't. However, there is a tweet from Martin's twitter account that hints that he did. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Jacobtm on March 28, 2012, 01:25:26 PM You should be ashamed of yourself, besmirching a slain teenagers' name.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Joe Republic on March 28, 2012, 01:28:52 PM Since when is trace amounts of residue intention to distribute? It isn't. However, there is a tweet from Martin's twitter account that hints that he did. This hearsay evidence from a social networking site is more than I need to justify his shooting. Phew! I feel so relieved now I can strip away my white guilt! Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 28, 2012, 01:45:32 PM It is not relevant to the facts of the case...but does disprove the media claims that Trayvon was a "model student" As I have said- I believe Zimmerman should be arrested from what I know of the case... but this has been taken into overdrive and he has been given trial by media when the facts are still murky... Indirectly, it was quite relevent to the case. Martin was videotaped at his school spray painting the letters "WTF." The next day, his backpack was searched to confiscate any spray paint. While they did not find any spray paint, they did find some women's jewelry, and a screwdriver they described as a burglary tool. They, also, found a bag with traces of marijuana residue. Everybody has just assumed that Zimmerman "racially profiled" Martin. Another possibility is that there was burglary suspect in the neighborhood whom was tall, Black, and very thin, and Zimmerman noticed he fit the description. Another possibility is that Martin was in fact a burglar, and was acting in a suspicious manner. Another possibility is that Martin fit the description of a burglar in Martin's father's neighborhood because Martin was in fact that burglar. Plus, black people are indeed very scary people who will most likely mug you and sell drugs to your kids. I see you are committed to the "racially profiled" theory. His more recent photos indicate he had several gold caps on his teeth. Gold dental work is a bit of luxury. When his backpack was searched at school, it included female jewerly. Where did the money come from for such luxuries? Perhaps, his folks were affluent. On the exchanges on his twitter account was a tweet by a man bemoaning his failure to locate Martin when he was looking for some "plant." Another tweet asked Martin if really swung at a bus driver. You ought to research his tweeter handle. Martin hardly adhered to the tenants of political correctness. Whether parents ought to fear any Black teen mugging them or selling drugs to their kids is one question. Whether parents ought to have the same fears about Martin is another question. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Joe Republic on March 28, 2012, 01:51:25 PM I see you are committed to the "racially profiled" theory. His more recent photos indicate he had several gold caps on his teeth. Gold dental work is a bit of luxury. When his backpack was searched at school, it included female jewerly. Where did the money come from for such luxuries? Perhaps, his folks were affluent. On the exchanges on his twitter account was a tweet by a man bemoaning his failure to locate Martin when he was looking for some "plant." Another tweet asked Martin if really swung at a bus driver. You ought to research his tweeter handle. Martin hardly adhered to the tenants of political correctness. Whether parents ought to fear any Black teen mugging them or selling drugs to their kids is one question. Whether parents ought to have the same fears about Martin is another question. Indeed, as oakvale and I have already stated in this thread, black people are terrifying! But luckily, George Zimmerman had already researched Trayvon Martin's criminal background, Twitter handle, and the contents of his backpack before deciding to make the world a safer place by shooting him to death. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: The Mikado on March 28, 2012, 02:28:27 PM ...And how is any of this, even if true, a justification for Zimmerman shooting him?
Let's say, hypothetically, that you're right and he's a purse-snatcher, vandal, and drug dealer. Does that change the facts of the case at all? He was still gunned down by a man who followed him for multiple blocks and, upon being confronted, escalated a (probable) fistfight to shooting a firearm at an unarmed opponent. We arrest and convict people for killing prostitutes, gang members, robbers, drug dealers, and other criminals. As a society, you can't just say it's open season on people that break the law. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: J. J. on March 28, 2012, 08:30:47 PM He was still gunned down by a man who followed him for multiple blocks and, upon being confronted, escalated a (probable) fistfight to shooting a firearm at an unarmed opponent. Was he confronted or did he confront someone else? I think that is the key question. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: DrScholl on March 28, 2012, 09:29:26 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmMSaVYAcRQ&feature=player_embedded#!
Zimmerman looks completely beaten up and broken here. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Beet on March 28, 2012, 09:43:19 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmMSaVYAcRQ&feature=player_embedded#! Zimmerman looks completely beaten up and broken here. Yeah... Given that the screams for help lasted a full 40 seconds on one of the 911 calls (which would have meant much longer than 40 seconds considering the time from the first cry being heard to the start of the call) and given how fast fights happen, the claim that Martin was beating up Zimmerman the whole time seems absurd. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 29, 2012, 12:17:32 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmMSaVYAcRQ&feature=player_embedded#! Zimmerman looks completely beaten up and broken here. Yeah... Given that the screams for help lasted a full 40 seconds on one of the 911 calls (which would have meant much longer than 40 seconds considering the time from the first cry being heard to the start of the call) and given how fast fights happen, the claim that Martin was beating up Zimmerman the whole time seems absurd. Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend. She heard him ask if Zimmerman had a problem, and Zimmerman answer back by inquiring what Martin was doing. She did not hear any cries for help. She believes that a fight caused Martin's headset to disconnect. She seems to be saying that the fight occurred immediately after the verbal exchange. It would have been very ironic for Martin to voluntarily hang up while screaming for forty seconds for help. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 29, 2012, 12:19:31 AM I see you are committed to the "racially profiled" theory. His more recent photos indicate he had several gold caps on his teeth. Gold dental work is a bit of luxury. When his backpack was searched at school, it included female jewelry. Where did the money come from for such luxuries? Perhaps, his folks were affluent. On the exchanges on his twitter account was a tweet by a man bemoaning his failure to locate Martin when he was looking for some "plant." Another tweet asked Martin if really swung at a bus driver. You ought to research his tweeter handle. Martin hardly adhered to the tenants of political correctness. Whether parents ought to fear any Black teen mugging them or selling drugs to their kids is one question. Whether parents ought to have the same fears about Martin is another question. Indeed, as oakvale and I have already stated in this thread, black people are terrifying! But luckily, George Zimmerman had already researched Trayvon Martin's criminal background, Twitter handle, and the contents of his backpack before deciding to make the world a safer place by shooting him to death. What is clear is the left didn't do any research into the facts in this case before deciding that Martin was a "model student" who was gunned down by after being racially profiled by a White man. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: jimrtex on March 29, 2012, 12:47:33 AM ...And how is any of this, even if true, a justification for Zimmerman shooting him? Let's say, hypothetically, that you're right and he's a purse-snatcher, vandal, and drug dealer. Does that change the facts of the case at all? He was still gunned down by a man who followed him for multiple blocks and, upon being confronted, escalated a (probable) fistfight to shooting a firearm at an unarmed opponent. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: Simfan34 on March 29, 2012, 11:40:08 PM I'm not sure what to make of this case. Just earlier this week I could I have told you with confidence that Martin was an aggressor, and how all of the things in his background would reduce the probability of his innocence... but now we see the new video with Zimmerman w/o injuries, and past information, and I'm forced to conclude that I really don't know. We need more evidence- but Zimmerman should be in jail regardless.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 30, 2012, 10:37:26 PM I'm not sure what to make of this case. Just earlier this week I could I have told you with confidence that Martin was an aggressor, and how all of the things in his background would reduce the probability of his innocence... but now we see the new video with Zimmerman w/o injuries, and past information, and I'm forced to conclude that I really don't know. We need more evidence- but Zimmerman should be in jail regardless. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/neighbor-defends-george-zimmerman-03302012 Zimmerman's neighbor observed the bruises the next day. They take time to form. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on March 31, 2012, 02:44:42 PM I'm not sure what to make of this case. Just earlier this week I could I have told you with confidence that Martin was an aggressor, and how all of the things in his background would reduce the probability of his innocence... but now we see the new video with Zimmerman w/o injuries, and past information, and I'm forced to conclude that I really don't know. We need more evidence- but Zimmerman should be in jail regardless. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/neighbor-defends-george-zimmerman-03302012 Zimmerman's neighbor observed the bruises the next day. They take time to form. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana possession Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 31, 2012, 03:18:01 PM Zimmerman has a history of violence. The state attorney who blocked the homocide detectives plan to press charges should be fired.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana possession Post by: k-onmmunist on March 31, 2012, 03:23:15 PM Victimless crime.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana possession Post by: bgwah on March 31, 2012, 04:07:57 PM There sure are a bunch of lowlife scumbags on this forum.
Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana dealing Post by: BigSkyBob on March 31, 2012, 06:25:56 PM I'm not sure what to make of this case. Just earlier this week I could I have told you with confidence that Martin was an aggressor, and how all of the things in his background would reduce the probability of his innocence... but now we see the new video with Zimmerman w/o injuries, and past information, and I'm forced to conclude that I really don't know. We need more evidence- but Zimmerman should be in jail regardless. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/neighbor-defends-george-zimmerman-03302012 Zimmerman's neighbor observed the bruises the next day. They take time to form. Wait, he had a concealed carry permit, and, he was going to the market. The question is whether, or not, he used his gun in self-defense, or not. Having a concealed carry permit simply does not create a presumption of guilt. Title: Re: Trayvon Martin was serving suspension for marijuana possession Post by: Eraserhead on April 01, 2012, 12:45:43 AM An American teenager had a bag of pot? My god, the horror!
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