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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 12, 2005, 09:24:30 PM



Title: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 12, 2005, 09:24:30 PM
This would have been the result.
That's supposed to be >=90% for DC

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Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: A18 on January 12, 2005, 09:27:57 PM
And if only people under 30 voted in 1980, Carter would have won by half a point. The fact that people vote for stupid candidates when they're young is not news to anyone.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Alcon on January 12, 2005, 09:28:38 PM
Mind giving a source? MS is a really interesting result.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 12, 2005, 09:28:45 PM
And if only people under 30 voted in 1980, Carter would have won by half a point. The fact that people vote for stupid candidates when they're young is not news to anyone.

As opposed to voting for stupid candidates when they're old?


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 12, 2005, 09:29:41 PM
Mind giving a source? MS is a really interesting result.

Kerry won 63-37 there.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/MS/P/00/epolls.0.html


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: A18 on January 12, 2005, 09:30:01 PM
Old people voted for a stupid candidate in 2000, but they did pretty well this year.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Alcon on January 12, 2005, 09:33:44 PM
I don't 100% trust these results. Why Mississippian youths would vote for Kerry by such a massive margin but Washingtonians by only 3 is confusing to me.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Sam Spade on January 12, 2005, 09:38:57 PM
I don't 100% trust these results. Why Mississippian youths would vote for Kerry by such a massive margin but Washingtonians by only 3 is confusing to me.

I would wonder what the sampling size is for each individual state and what the subsample is.  There might be couple of outliers in there. 

Maine is odd too.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: A18 on January 12, 2005, 09:39:33 PM
The youth vote is always heavily skewed towards the Democrats. Reagan won 1980 in a ten point landslide, and lost youth by a point.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Alcon on January 12, 2005, 09:42:48 PM
I don't 100% trust these results. Why Mississippian youths would vote for Kerry by such a massive margin but Washingtonians by only 3 is confusing to me.

I would wonder what the sampling size is for each individual state and what the subsample is.  There might be couple of outliers in there. 

Maine is odd too.

Actually, I believe in MTV's Rock the Vote, more Republicans registered in Maine than Democrats. Mississippi was Democratic, though, I believe. It's quite weird.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: agcatter on January 12, 2005, 10:25:35 PM
...and if only blacks were allowed to vote Kerry has a 50 state sweep.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Gabu on January 12, 2005, 10:28:59 PM
...and if only blacks were allowed to vote Kerry has a 50 state sweep.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.

Except Republicans, obviously. :)


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: ?????????? on January 13, 2005, 01:03:54 AM
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: opebo on January 13, 2005, 04:41:41 AM
...and if only blacks were allowed to vote Kerry has a 50 state sweep.


Not so farfetched - why just a few decades back only whites were allowed to vote!  The GOP really should push for the good old days, twould improve their electoral fortunes immensely.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: skybridge on January 13, 2005, 07:06:34 AM
This would have been the result.
That's supposed to be >=90% for DC

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I'm not sure about your line from Minnesota to Mississippi.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Platypus on January 13, 2005, 09:37:21 AM
only four states strike me as odd; AZ, NM, ME and MS. WV and MO are also a little odd, I had heard that MO youth was very strong GOP.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 13, 2005, 01:55:48 PM
WV and MO are also a little odd, I had heard that MO youth was very strong GOP.

WV isn't strange, but I'd heard the same about MO so...


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Math on January 13, 2005, 03:26:06 PM
And if only people under 30 voted in 1980, Carter would have won by half a point. The fact that people vote for stupid candidates when they're young is not news to anyone.
i agree for 1984.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: A18 on January 13, 2005, 03:32:27 PM
You are...agree...for...1984. Um, okay.

I have absolutely no clue what that means, but I'll pretend I do. Reagan did very well among 18-24 year olds, but he did worse than his national percentage with 25-29 year olds. It just depends, but Republicans generally do worse with younger people.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: skybridge on January 13, 2005, 04:02:38 PM
This would have been the result.
That's supposed to be >=90% for DC

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Sure Colorado and not New Mexico would have gone to the Dems?


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: Math on January 13, 2005, 04:22:49 PM
You are...agree...for...1984. Um, okay.

I have absolutely no clue what that means, but I'll pretend I do. Reagan did very well among 18-24 year olds, but he did worse than his national percentage with 25-29 year olds. It just depends, but Republicans generally do worse with younger people.
Thanks. you're too generous with a little French leftist...


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: zachman on January 13, 2005, 05:02:39 PM
What were the youth vote results in Maine? I can't believe my eyes?


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 13, 2005, 05:06:29 PM
What were the youth vote results in Maine? I can't believe my eyes?
Bush 50 Kerry 48

Kerry might have been able to win an elector.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: nclib on January 18, 2005, 06:59:38 PM
This would have been the result.
That's supposed to be >=90% for DC

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How are you making these maps--the prediction pages appear to be closed.


Title: Re: If only people under 30 voted
Post by: A18 on January 18, 2005, 07:12:54 PM
He's not using the prediction pages.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/evcalc5.php?year=2004&pop_per=1