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Election Archive => 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on April 05, 2012, 05:59:36 AM



Title: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Tender Branson on April 05, 2012, 05:59:36 AM
New York State voters approve 56 - 38 percent of the job President Barack Obama is doing, his best score in almost a year and up from a 50 - 46 percent approval rating February 15.

Today, women approve of the president 59 - 34 percent, up from 52 - 42 percent in February. Men approve 52 - 43 percent, up from a negative 46 - 49 percent. Independent voters split 45 - 45 percent, up from a negative 41 - 54 percent.

Obama leads Romney 56 - 33 percent and tops Santorum 59 - 30 percent.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/new-york-state/release-detail?ReleaseID=1733


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Tender Branson on April 05, 2012, 08:16:42 AM
Obama being at 60 or higher in CA, NY, MA and IL and leading in NV, NM, WI, MI, OH, PA, VA and FL definitely means that Obama is ahead by at least 5 right now nationally.

Don't know what Rasmussen wants to construct with showing Romney ahead by 3 in their daily tracking .... ???


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Eraserhead on April 05, 2012, 09:53:29 PM
Obama being at 60 or higher in CA, NY, MA and IL and leading in NV, NM, WI, MI, OH, PA, VA and FL definitely means that Obama is ahead by at least 5 right now nationally.

Don't know what Rasmussen wants to construct with showing Romney ahead by 3 in their daily tracking .... ???

He must have a Fox appearance coming up.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: King on April 05, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
Obama being at 60 or higher in CA, NY, MA and IL and leading in NV, NM, WI, MI, OH, PA, VA and FL definitely means that Obama is ahead by at least 5 right now nationally.

Don't know what Rasmussen wants to construct with showing Romney ahead by 3 in their daily tracking .... ???


Maybe all the Plains and Southern states are >60% Romney.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 06, 2012, 09:35:52 PM
Given that it's Romney, it's unlikely that he's seriously outperforming McCain in the Southern states.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Devils30 on April 06, 2012, 11:04:13 PM
Rasmussen's Romney lead is simple to explain. They have this odd system of weighting by party ID where there's more Republicans than Democrats. The country almost always has a slight but clear Dem edge in party ID so naturally this shifts their results to make FOX news viewers happy.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 07, 2012, 12:09:32 PM
Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=3620120402015


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: AmericanNation on April 07, 2012, 12:18:44 PM
Rasmussen's Romney lead is simple to explain. They have this odd system of weighting by party ID where there's more Republicans than Democrats. The country almost always has a slight but clear Dem edge in party ID so naturally this shifts their results to make FOX news viewers happy.

He uses likely voters instead of registered voters.  More expensive, but more accurate.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: Earthling on April 07, 2012, 12:27:24 PM
No, it's not. His numbers are all over the place. This time, Obama is leading Romney 47 to 44. Just 3 days ago Romney was leading Obama by 2. What is accurate?


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: MaxQue on April 07, 2012, 01:04:21 PM
Rasmussen's Romney lead is simple to explain. They have this odd system of weighting by party ID where there's more Republicans than Democrats. The country almost always has a slight but clear Dem edge in party ID so naturally this shifts their results to make FOX news viewers happy.

He uses likely voters instead of registered voters.  More expensive, but more accurate.

Not at this point. Given than there is no Democrat primary, Democrats aren't concerned by the election yet, so, they appear unmotivated and unlikely to vote.

A likely voter screen is only more accurate starting September.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: AmericanNation on April 07, 2012, 01:15:38 PM
Rasmussen's Romney lead is simple to explain. They have this odd system of weighting by party ID where there's more Republicans than Democrats. The country almost always has a slight but clear Dem edge in party ID so naturally this shifts their results to make FOX news viewers happy.

He uses likely voters instead of registered voters.  More expensive, but more accurate.

Not at this point. Given than there is no Democrat primary, Democrats aren't concerned by the election yet, so, they appear unmotivated and unlikely to vote.

A likely voter screen is only more accurate starting September.

   I'll be honest in that I have not personally sifted through and compared Rasmussen to others and cross-referenced actual results, but typically he uses likely voters AND typically that is a BETTER method.  It might not be right now, idk.   


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: ajb on April 07, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Rasmussen's Romney lead is simple to explain. They have this odd system of weighting by party ID where there's more Republicans than Democrats. The country almost always has a slight but clear Dem edge in party ID so naturally this shifts their results to make FOX news viewers happy.

He uses likely voters instead of registered voters.  More expensive, but more accurate.

Not at this point. Given than there is no Democrat primary, Democrats aren't concerned by the election yet, so, they appear unmotivated and unlikely to vote.

A likely voter screen is only more accurate starting September.

   I'll be honest in that I have not personally sifted through and compared Rasmussen to others and cross-referenced actual results, but typically he uses likely voters AND typically that is a BETTER method.  It might not be right now, idk.   

I think the rule of thumb is that Likely Voter models start to make sense around Labor Day, when most voters start to pay more attention.


Title: Re: NY-Quinnipiac: Obama up by a lot
Post by: The Mikado on April 09, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
Yeah, "Likely Voters" becomes a better model as the election grows nearer because it becomes clearer and clearer who is actually, you know, likely to vote.