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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: A18 on January 13, 2005, 04:17:21 PM



Title: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 13, 2005, 04:17:21 PM
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This is what the map would look like. The <20% is for Badnarik.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Schmitz in 1972 on January 13, 2005, 06:15:41 PM
What about the Peroutka vote?


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Alcon on January 13, 2005, 06:18:17 PM
If only intelligent people voted, George W. Bush and John Kerry would not be their parties' nominees.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Schmitz in 1972 on January 13, 2005, 06:30:22 PM
If only intelligent people voted, George W. Bush and John Kerry would not be their parties' nominees.

Ha! That's the best post I've read so far today. How right you are!


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: agcatter on January 13, 2005, 07:05:37 PM
exactly


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 13, 2005, 07:18:08 PM
If only intelligent people voted, George W. Bush and John Kerry would not be their parties' nominees.

And Bush would have lost the general to a soggy noodle.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: J. J. on January 13, 2005, 07:21:43 PM
If only intelligent people voted, George W. Bush and John Kerry would not be their parties' nominees.

And Bush would have lost the general to a soggy noodle.

He wouldn't have been running in the general and you would have been ineligible to vote.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: nclib on January 13, 2005, 10:44:02 PM
Kerry easily won those with post-graduate degrees.

And Bush easily won whites without a college education.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 13, 2005, 10:46:51 PM
I said intelligent people. Not people with post-graduate degrees, which is not indicative of anything.

The most intelligent people generally end up with the most money. And yes, they went overwhelmingly for Bush.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: agcatter on January 13, 2005, 11:05:21 PM
Kerry, like every Democrat in every election since WWII, also won the vote of those with less than a high school education.  So, enough of the post graduate went for Kerry stuff.  So what.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Gabu on January 13, 2005, 11:13:24 PM
Kerry, like every Democrat in every election since WWII, also won the vote of those with less than a high school education.  So, enough of the post graduate went for Kerry stuff.  So what.

Exit polls actually showed that the percentages of people with pretty much every level of education who voted for either Bush or Kerry were within the margin of error, except for those with postgraduate degrees, who went to Kerry 55-45%.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: bgwah on January 14, 2005, 12:13:15 AM
Kerry landslide! There are some smart Republicans, but there are more smart Democrats.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: opebo on January 14, 2005, 07:00:20 AM

The most intelligent people generally end up with the most money. And yes, they went overwhelmingly for Bush.

How ridiculous!  You have no understanding of where wealth comes from. 


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 14, 2005, 07:18:50 AM
No, a bunch of idiots such as yourself inherit wealth, but the statistical truth is that the vast majority of wealth is earned, which requires real intelligence, and not a "post-graduate degree."


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: opebo on January 14, 2005, 07:55:10 AM
No, a bunch of idiots such as yourself inherit wealth, but the statistical truth is that the vast majority of wealth is earned, which requires real intelligence, and not a "post-graduate degree."

I certainly agree with you that a post-graduate degree doesn't necessarily require intelligence.  I just don't see any reason to believe that acquiring money does either.  Plenty of merely lucky or workaholic people are successful aquistive types, and there are plenty of intelligent also-rans.  I think you would like to believe that aquisition of wealth imparts some Calvinistic mark of superiority upon the aquirer, when really it is just an ethically neutral condition.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Democratic Hawk on January 14, 2005, 09:06:27 AM
If only intelligent people voted, George W. Bush and John Kerry would not be their parties' nominees.

Could have put it better myself!

Dave


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: ElectionAtlas on January 14, 2005, 05:09:15 PM
No, a bunch of idiots such as yourself inherit wealth, but the statistical truth is that the vast majority of wealth is earned, which requires real intelligence, and not a "post-graduate degree."

Philip - do you have data or link or source to support this statement?  This thread has a ring of a "data-free conversation".


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: JohnFKennedy on January 14, 2005, 05:14:15 PM
The most intelligent people generally end up with the most money. And yes, they went overwhelmingly for Bush.

I completely disagree with your statement.

Wealth is not the be all and end all, in fact far from it I would say. There far more important things in life than money and when people come to realise that, I think they will be a lot happier. Money won't fill that whole inside of you, no matter how much you stuff inside it, it won't fix everything, it won't make things right.

Money doesn't make someone happy, which is why I would say that many of the most intelligent people in the world aren't rich, they are smart enough to realise this, that there are far more important things in life than this. Making a difference, be it moving the whole world, or just one person, it will make you feel a lot happier and better inside than accumulating wealth ever could which is why I say that intelligence and wealth aren't connected, because those who realise this are the smartest of all.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: JohnFKennedy on January 14, 2005, 05:16:27 PM
No, a bunch of idiots such as yourself inherit wealth, but the statistical truth is that the vast majority of wealth is earned, which requires real intelligence, and not a "post-graduate degree."

Philip - do you have data or link or source to support this statement?  This thread has a ring of a "data-free conversation".

Actually Philip I believe this isn't true, wealth is very unevenly distributed, far more so than income is which suggests that the most wealthy are far wealthier than those with a high income.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Colin on January 15, 2005, 12:10:53 PM
Well if only intellegent people voted Bush and Kerry would not have been the nominees. Maybe a Dick Cheney vs. Joe Biden Presidential Race would be more likely. Third Parties would also do better since most of their voters are highly educated and politically astute.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Joe Republic on January 15, 2005, 02:41:41 PM
This thread really isn't going to go anywhere further than partisan name-calling and "we're better than you" 'debates'.

Both major parties have intelligent people.  They also have stupid people.  But IQ doesn't decide politics.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 15, 2005, 05:20:33 PM
This thread was intended to be a joke. I do remember hearing that only about 10-20% of wealthy people inherited the money, but it wasn't online, and I don't have a link to support it.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Akno21 on January 15, 2005, 05:30:26 PM

The most intelligent people generally end up with the most money.

~Ron Artest is a real smart guy Philip~


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 15, 2005, 05:34:26 PM
Well, any time money is speant, someone is earning it. So yes, a lot of money is inherited, but it sounds impossible to me for the vast majority of wealth not be earned.

I don't know who Ron Artest is.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Akno21 on January 15, 2005, 05:37:25 PM
Well, any time money is speant, someone is earning it. So yes, a lot of money is inherited, but it sounds impossible to me for the vast majority of wealth not be earned.

I don't know who Ron Artest is.

The basketball player who was the main player in the big NBA brawl recently. Where he knocked out a few fans and got suspended for the entire season.

My point is, not all rich people, especially athletes, are smart.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Gabu on January 15, 2005, 05:52:55 PM
The most intelligent people generally end up with the most money. And yes, they went overwhelmingly for Bush.

I don't think that Albert Einstein was overwhelmingly rich when he died, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that he wasn't extremely intelligent.

There are many different types of intelligence.  The type that enables you to make large sums of money in life is just one of them.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Defarge on January 15, 2005, 10:55:53 PM
Depends on how you define intelligent.  This being a typical crazy Philip poll, I'm not even going to bother putting any thought into it :)


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 15, 2005, 11:15:34 PM
Geez, quit taking things so seriously. It's a joke, people. :)


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2005, 11:17:11 PM
Geez, quit taking things so seriously. It's a joke, people. :)

No, it's not, but it is funny.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 15, 2005, 11:23:05 PM
Geez, quit taking things so seriously. It's a joke, people. :)

No, it's not, but it is funny.

Yawn. Yes, it is, and you can shut up now.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2005, 11:33:17 PM
Geez, quit taking things so seriously. It's a joke, people. :)

No, it's not, but it is funny.

Yawn. Yes, it is, and you can shut up now.

Actually, this is the Internet. You can talk over me by posting over me and people can still hear you.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 15, 2005, 11:34:06 PM
And that has what to do with anything?


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: ATFFL on January 15, 2005, 11:35:40 PM
Geez, quit taking things so seriously. It's a joke, people. :)

No, it's not, but it is funny.

Yawn. Yes, it is, and you can shut up now.

Actually, this is the Internet. You can talk over me by posting over me and people can still hear you.

The two of you are doing a wonderful job making the case that neither of you would be allowed to vote in this scenario.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2005, 11:37:56 PM
Geez, quit taking things so seriously. It's a joke, people. :)

No, it's not, but it is funny.

Yawn. Yes, it is, and you can shut up now.

Actually, this is the Internet. You can talk over me by posting over me and people can still hear you.

The two of you are doing a wonderful job making the case that neither of you would be allowed to vot ein this scenario.

You're right; I'm making me own case for that. I apologize, Philip; I am in a bad mood today. Otherwise I would ignore people who told me to shut up, for the most part. Sorry, Phil.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: A18 on January 15, 2005, 11:38:41 PM
Don't worry. I didn't plan to "vot ein" this scenerio.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: ATFFL on January 15, 2005, 11:42:47 PM
Don't worry. I didn't plan to "vot ein" this scenerio.

Hey, mister.  I'm the English teacher around here, I'll call people out on their spelling, thank you very much.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: Gabu on January 16, 2005, 07:58:21 AM
The two of you are doing a wonderful job making the case that neither of you would be allowed to vot ein this scenario.

Yes, I quite like that quote: "Never argue with the village idiot, for passers-by may not be able to tell which is which."

Speaking of making the case for not being able to vote in this scenario...

I'm the English teacher around here, I'll call people out on their spelling, thank you very much.

I do believe that this is a COMMA SPLICE!!

YOU GET AN F!

:)


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: ATFFL on January 16, 2005, 11:10:27 AM

I'm the English teacher around here, I'll call people out on their spelling, thank you very much.

I do believe that this is a COMMA SPLICE!!

YOU GET AN F!

:)

Actually, it's a typo.  Should have been a new sentence.


Title: Re: If only intelligent people voted
Post by: BobOMac2k2 on January 19, 2005, 01:19:25 AM
If only intelligent people voted, George W. Bush and John Kerry would not be their parties' nominees.

And Bush would have lost the general to a soggy noodle.

All you'd have to do is say the noodle believed in god and hated homos...