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Title: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: retromike22 on April 13, 2012, 08:40:28 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/santorum-bella-is-now-an-nra-life-member-120479.html (http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/santorum-bella-is-now-an-nra-life-member-120479.html)

"Bella Santorum, Rick Santorum’s ailing three-year-old daughter, is now a life member of the National Rifle Association.

The ex-candidate announced at the NRA’s annual meeting here Friday that he and his wife Karen have long been life members.

“Now Bella is a life member of the NRA,” he said. “And I hope it’s a long life!”"


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 13, 2012, 08:42:19 PM
This is pretty silly. She could always turn out to be anti-gun when she is older. Kids don't always turn out like their parents. Look at Ronald Wilson Reagan Jr. for example.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Donerail on April 13, 2012, 08:48:08 PM
Why? She's three and most likely cannot use a firearm. This is kinda sad and weird at the same time (sad because of the genetic disease which dramatically shortens lifespans, weird because of the NRA involvement w/ a 3-year-old).


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: memphis on April 13, 2012, 08:52:26 PM
This is pretty silly. She could always turn out to be anti-gun when she is older. Kids don't always turn out like their parents. Look at Ronald Wilson Reagan Jr. for example.

She's not likely to get much older. About 1% of kids with her condition live to age 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisomy_18


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: retromike22 on April 13, 2012, 08:53:53 PM
I think it's sad and weird. Just like when Santorum brought his dead fetus son home and him and his wife shared the bed with the dead fetus.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 13, 2012, 08:54:34 PM
I think it's sad and weird. Just like when Santorum brought his dead fetus son home and him and his wife shared the bed with the dead fetus.

Did the fetus join the NRA, too?


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: LastVoter on April 13, 2012, 08:58:13 PM
This is pretty silly. She could always turn out to be anti-gun when she is older. Kids don't always turn out like their parents. Look at Ronald Wilson Reagan Jr. for example.

She's not likely to get much older. About 1% of kids with her condition live to age 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisomy_18
What % survive to three?


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: You kip if you want to... on April 13, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
This is pretty silly. She could always turn out to be anti-gun when she is older. Kids don't always turn out like their parents. Look at Ronald Wilson Reagan Jr. for example.

She's not likely to get much older. About 1% of kids with her condition live to age 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisomy_18

Isn't that what Trigg Palin has too?


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Donerail on April 13, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
This is pretty silly. She could always turn out to be anti-gun when she is older. Kids don't always turn out like their parents. Look at Ronald Wilson Reagan Jr. for example.

She's not likely to get much older. About 1% of kids with her condition live to age 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisomy_18

Isn't that what Trigg Palin has too?

No, he's got Down Syndrome.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 13, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
wrong board.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 13, 2012, 11:27:19 PM
The NRA: Proving a 3 year old can be a responsible gun owner...as long as they're white.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 14, 2012, 03:59:20 AM
Hilarious.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 14, 2012, 09:28:51 AM
Santorum's wife is called Bella ?

My latin is a bit rusty, but doesn't "bella santorum" mean "wars of saints" ? ;D


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: tpfkaw on April 14, 2012, 09:53:03 AM
Santorum's wife is called Bella ?

My latin is a bit rusty, but doesn't "bella santorum" mean "wars of saints" ? ;D

Daughter, and I'm pretty sure "Bella" as a name is "beautiful," not "wars."

Edit: (Not that I'd be surprised if Ricky actually wanted to name his daughter "wars").


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 14, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Santorum's wife is called Bella ?

My latin is a bit rusty, but doesn't "bella santorum" mean "wars of saints" ? ;D

Daughter, and I'm pretty sure "Bella" as a name is "beautiful," not "wars."

Edit: (Not that I'd be surprised if Ricky actually wanted to name his daughter "wars").

bellum, i, n means "war". "bella" as the feminine of "beautiful" is italian and doesn't have latin roots AFAIK.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 14, 2012, 10:26:11 AM
[Edit: (Not that I'd be surprised if Ricky actually wanted to name his daughter "wars").

^^^^^^


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Hash on April 14, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
That's a pretty f-ed up family.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Tender Branson on April 14, 2012, 11:27:54 AM
LOL

BTW: Why does the NRA not endorse Obama for re-election ? Didn't gun sales increase by 200% or so during his first term ?


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: tpfkaw on April 14, 2012, 12:21:10 PM
Santorum's wife is called Bella ?

My latin is a bit rusty, but doesn't "bella santorum" mean "wars of saints" ? ;D

Daughter, and I'm pretty sure "Bella" as a name is "beautiful," not "wars."

Edit: (Not that I'd be surprised if Ricky actually wanted to name his daughter "wars").

bellum, i, n means "war". "bella" as the feminine of "beautiful" is italian and doesn't have latin roots AFAIK.

Bellus, -a, -um - pretty, handsome, charming, pleasant, agreeable, polite; nice, fine, excellent; (http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=bella)

(The vast majority of Italian words have Latin roots, especially the Latinate ones...)


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 14, 2012, 12:27:51 PM
Santorum's wife is called Bella ?

My latin is a bit rusty, but doesn't "bella santorum" mean "wars of saints" ? ;D

Daughter, and I'm pretty sure "Bella" as a name is "beautiful," not "wars."

Edit: (Not that I'd be surprised if Ricky actually wanted to name his daughter "wars").

bellum, i, n means "war". "bella" as the feminine of "beautiful" is italian and doesn't have latin roots AFAIK.

Bellus, -a, -um - pretty, handsome, charming, pleasant, agreeable, polite; nice, fine, excellent; (http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=bella)

(The vast majority of Italian words have Latin roots, especially the Latinate ones...)

Well, we were both right.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on April 14, 2012, 12:32:13 PM
Bella - beautiful. Bellum - War. Entirely different Latin roots.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 14, 2012, 12:43:55 PM
Bella - beautiful. Bellum - War. Entirely different Latin roots.

Neutral words of the second declination have -a in their plural. Therefore bella means wars.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: bgwah on April 14, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
Using children for politics? Disgusting!


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Insula Dei on April 14, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
Bella - beautiful. Bellum - War. Entirely different Latin roots.

Neutral words of the second declination have -a in their plural. Therefore bella means wars.

And knowing Rick's love for the latter, we all know what etymology he'd prefer.

Santorum's wife is called Bella ?

My latin is a bit rusty, but doesn't "bella santorum" mean "wars of saints" ? ;D

Daughter, and I'm pretty sure "Bella" as a name is "beautiful," not "wars."

Edit: (Not that I'd be surprised if Ricky actually wanted to name his daughter "wars").

bellum, i, n means "war". "bella" as the feminine of "beautiful" is italian and doesn't have latin roots AFAIK.

Bellus, -a, -um - pretty, handsome, charming, pleasant, agreeable, polite; nice, fine, excellent; (http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=bella)

(The vast majority of Italian words have Latin roots, especially the Latinate ones...)

Still, as a Latin word it was relatively rare. 'Pulcher' was much more common.

Edit: Or 'is' much more common, as I'm obviously only talking about written texts.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 14, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
A lot of words in later languages I have been told come from the less 'prestige', more plebeian versions of Latin words, so it's entirely possible that 'bellus' was actually more common in speech rather than just being slang or an unusual usage.


'Wars of the saints' is one of the more appropriate names for Rick Santorum's daughter.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on April 14, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
Again. Bellum = War. Bellus = Pretty/Nice.

Completely different latin roots.

Bellus originates from bonus - benulus -> bellus.

These are false friends. Just because they look similar doesn't mean that they are similar.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: retromike22 on April 14, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
How the heck did this thread evolve from a disabled toddler being a member of the NRA to a discussion about the Latin roots of her name?


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 14, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
Again. Bellum = War. Bellus = Pretty/Nice.

Completely different latin roots.

Bellus originates from bonus - benulus -> bellus.

These are false friends. Just because they look similar doesn't mean that they are similar.

Yes, but bella is in fact the plural of bellum. It's not that Bella Santorum's name actually means 'wars of the saints'; it's that it can be made to mean that with a pun or play on words.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on April 14, 2012, 09:20:40 PM
Quote
How the heck did this thread evolve from a disabled toddler being a member of the NRA to a discussion about the Latin roots of her name?

It got a topic upgrade.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Indy Texas on April 14, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
It's sad when politicians use their kids as political props. It's even sadder when the kid is too young (and in this case, too mentally handicapped) to understand what is going on.


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: The Mikado on April 14, 2012, 11:24:18 PM
Again. Bellum = War. Bellus = Pretty/Nice.

Completely different latin roots.

Bellus originates from bonus - benulus -> bellus.

These are false friends. Just because they look similar doesn't mean that they are similar.

The point was that the plural of "bellum" is indeed "bella."  3rd declension plurals and all that.

Bella could also be used as a feminine adjective for "beautiful," but as already pointed out, it would be far more likely to be "pulchra."

...Six years of Latin, why do I mostly remember the grammar stuff?  Memories of years of "why do the 4th and 5th declensions even exist?  This is dumb" flooding back to me.  (Yes, I know 4th declension is mostly for foreign loanwords...5th declension has no excuse)


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: 5280 on April 14, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
Not sure how Bella is going to use a gun with down syndrome once she's an adult, but whatever. 


Title: Re: Bella Santorum is now an NRA life member.
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 14, 2012, 11:44:53 PM
She doesn't have Down syndrome, and Down syndrome doesn't inherently make one incapable of shooting a gun.

Also, considering 'santorum' is a plural modifier form of something, putting an adjective in front of it doesn't make much sense in Latin.