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Title: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 18, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
Not every Republican is embracing Wisconsin’s polarizing governor ahead of his historic recall election.

In Washington state, the presumptive GOP nominee for governor recently assured a local union that he’s “not Scott Walker,” according to audio provided to POLITICO by a Democratic strategist.

Rob McKenna, the two-term attorney general who is aiming to become the Evergreen State’s first Republican governor in more than 30 years, told a gathering of Puget Sound Carpenters last week that he’ll strive for a “positive relationship between labor and management,” even lamenting the agenda pursued by Walker.

“We need to have a good strong relationship between labor and management in this state,” McKenna said at the April 11 meeting, according to the audio that was secretly recorded. “Now unfortunately because of a couple of governors — particularly Scott Walker — everyone thinks that someone who’s going to be a Republican governor, they’re going to be Scott Walker. I’m not Scott Walker. This is not Wisconsin. This is Washington state.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75245.html#ixzz1sMvm3DH9

Heh.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: bgwah on April 18, 2012, 01:24:12 AM
He's running a good campaign.... I hate it. :P


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Vosem on April 18, 2012, 06:00:31 AM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Napoleon on April 18, 2012, 06:54:12 AM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Some of those Democrats are unreliable, I think three or four state senators voted to pass the Republican budget.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Meeker on April 18, 2012, 09:25:22 AM
Sounds a lot like Scott Walker before Scott Walker got elected.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: krazen1211 on April 18, 2012, 09:41:07 AM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Union smashing has passed through numerous Democratic legislatures in the past.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on April 18, 2012, 11:46:14 AM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Union smashing has passed through numerous Democratic legislatures in the past.

You are I trust aware of the fact that your word choice here is revelatory.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: morgieb on April 18, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Union smashing has passed through numerous Democratic legislatures in the past.

Hack.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Sam Spade on April 18, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
We are all Scott Walker.  Or at least we will have to be in the not-so-distant future.  Actually, I might mean worse than Scott Walker, but you get my drift.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 18, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Union smashing has passed through numerous Democratic legislatures in the past.

You are I trust aware of the fact that your word choice here is revelatory.

Breaking news: Grover Cleveland is anti-union.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on April 18, 2012, 10:55:36 PM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Union smashing has passed through numerous Democratic legislatures in the past.

You are I trust aware of the fact that your word choice here is revelatory.

Breaking news: Grover Cleveland is anti-union.

I meant that 'union smashing' was revelatory about his attitude, not 'past' about his point, but yeah, that too.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: 5280 on April 18, 2012, 11:38:52 PM
I've noticed something, McKenna almost looks like Hickenlooper from the side.
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Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: CultureKing on April 19, 2012, 12:23:57 AM
He's running a good campaign.... I hate it. :P

I completely agree. Honestly if Inslee doesn't get his campaign into high gear then I could see McKenna run away with the election (by which I mean about a 3-4 point victory).

I have to admit, the way McKenna is running his campaign makes me at least confidant that he could run the state well enough (even if I oppose him on most policy issues).


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 19, 2012, 01:35:49 AM
Republicans in blue states are never Scott Walkers... until they're elected and immediately start governing as right-wing ideologues. See also, Rick Snyder.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on April 20, 2012, 05:11:39 PM
Republicans in blue states are never Scott Walkers... until they're elected and immediately start governing as right-wing ideologues. See also, Rick Snyder.

Or Mitt Romney.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: AmericanNation on April 23, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
Well, he'll have to work with a Democratic legislature, so he couldn't implement Walker-style policies as Governor even if he tried.

Chis Christie did.  Political patterns can change when a crisis happens... like when the state is a financial basket case.  Tax hikes, bond rating downgrades, and cuts in services combine to awaken a few voters. 

Walker froze (and cut) taxes, raised the financial rating (balanced a train wreck budget, and improved business climate), and didn't cut any services (some are improved). 

This McKenna guy might just be talking about a perception of Walker, but if he isn't the real Scott Walker than what is he?  Irresponsible?   


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: AmericanNation on April 23, 2012, 10:59:53 AM
Sounds a lot like Scott Walker before Scott Walker got elected.

Scott Walker is perhaps the most honest and strait-forward office holder I've come across (and I'm a historian).  

It was interesting how the people who didn't pay attention (to him for the 10 years he ran Milwaukee County) thought he wouldn't follow through on what he was saying in the campaign.  I had to say countless times:

 "Listen, you don't know him.  I've been watching him for over a decade.  When he says he is going to do something, he does it."  

NOW, I hear this crap more often about how he didn't say the things (that he said) before he was elected.  Lefty bias has this defect in that you can't believe it is popular to not be a lefty.        


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Joe Republic on April 23, 2012, 02:03:14 PM
Scott Walker is perhaps the most honest and strait-forward office holder I've come across (and I'm an historian).

HAHAHAHA


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: AmericanNation on April 23, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
Scott Walker is perhaps the most honest and strait-forward office holder I've come across (and I'm an historian).

HAHAHAHA

Another example of a favorite quote of mine:
"If you want to fool the world tell the truth."

Walker is a boy scout, preacher's son... Shocking that he might actually be extremely honest and strait-forward.  Shocked!, Shocked! to find an honest man in politics.     


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: hopper on April 23, 2012, 04:08:01 PM
He's running a good campaign.... I hate it. :P

I completely agree. Honestly if Inslee doesn't get his campaign into high gear then I could see McKenna run away with the election (by which I mean about a 3-4 point victory).

I have to admit, the way McKenna is running his campaign makes me at least confidant that he could run the state well enough (even if I oppose him on most policy issues).
Its kind of unbelievable the Republicans have a reasonable shot to pick up the Washington State Governorship right now. I mean no Republican has been Governor of Washington State in 30 years. Considering how right-wing the national party is right now too..
If the Republicans can put up somebody like McKenna in a consistent basis on a state to state basis they could go somehwere instead of recruiting the most right-wing candiate possible(i.e. idealogue.)

I thought Inslee is a perfect fit for the Washington State Governorship as well. Inslee could be the Scott McGinnis(R-CO) of this election cycle. Perfect fit for the governor's job on paper but doesn't win.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: hopper on April 23, 2012, 04:13:03 PM
Republicans in blue states are never Scott Walkers... until they're elected and immediately start governing as right-wing ideologues. See also, Rick Snyder.

Or Mitt Romney.
Romney? Why are you including him?


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Modernity has failed us on April 23, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Scott Walker is perhaps the most honest and strait-forward office holder I've come across (and I'm a historian).  

Cool. Now go be an hero.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 23, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
Sounds a lot like Scott Walker before Scott Walker got elected.

Scott Walker is perhaps the most honest and strait-forward office holder I've come across (and I'm a historian).

lol


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Ogre Mage on April 25, 2012, 02:10:48 AM
McKenna is a skilled politician, particularly at manipulating the media. 

That said, there has yet to be any sort of coordinated assault on McKenna by the constituent organizations affiliated with the WA Democratic establishment.  It will be interesting to see if his numbers hold up once this gets going. 


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 25, 2012, 10:25:13 AM
Sounds a lot like Scott Walker before Scott Walker got elected.

Scott Walker is perhaps the most honest and strait-forward office holder I've come across (and I'm a historian).

wat


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Pyro on April 25, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
He's running a good campaign.... I hate it. :P
This :<


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Seattle on April 25, 2012, 09:52:30 PM
McKenna has two statewide election, including a blowout in 2008, even winning King County with 53% of the vote. He knows the electorate well. I think it was a mistake of him to challenge the healthcare law. That alone may cost him the election (that is if Inslee gets his campaign together). It is ridiculous how popular he was as AG before the healthcare lawsuit.

Anyway, Inslee's name recognition is still very low. I don't know what his campaign is doing... lol. At least he's a very capable fundraiser.


Title: Re: McKenna: "I'm not Scott Walker."
Post by: Ogre Mage on April 26, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Rob McKenna snaps at Democratic questioner on abortion bill: "Go get a job."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2018071681_rob_mckenna_snaps_at_questione.html

This exchange makes him look like an a$$, not to mention shifty on reproductive rights.  Inslee may have finally caught a break.